One of my biggest complaints about the film is that they for some godforsaken reason decided to hire composers who had zero experience in musical theatre and only wrote pop music…for a 100th anniversary Disney film…like what????
He said it more succinctly , but I want to add that any piece of art that gets worse the more you know, is not good. There's stories out there that get better the more you look at them and the more you understand, like Lilo and Stitch or Wall-E. Then there are ones like Wreck it Ralph 2.
@@WhistlingStickman Dude the only reason I even remember Wreck-It-Ralph 2 exists is because of Shadman's art being seared into my brain. That's not a good thing.
nah, at this point I just want to see them go under. i want dozens of smaller companies to take their place and make masterpieces from actual passion projects.
Fun fact, in the early stages of development, this movie was actually meant to be fully traditionally animated in 2D, however they scrapped that idea because of "limits on camera movement and characterization". Which is just corporate speak for skill issue
Animators at Disney have pretty much confirmed there will never be another full 2D animated Disney feature again, because the talent, equipment, and processes are all gone for good, and even if that wasn't the case, the culture is actively hostile to 2D animators. And Disney's own staff are the ones claiming this. So yes, skill issue.
What hurts me the most is the scrapped starboy concept. Disney replaced him with that generic little star because he was "too hard to design." They were on the cusp of delivering a Disney princess movie about a princess falling in love with a shape-shifting shooting star and teaming up with him to fight Disney's first every villain couple. A classic Disney film, appropriate for the 100 year celebration. AND THEY SCRAPPED IT BECAUSE IT WAS "TOO HARD TO DESIGN."
Seeing the reception to that new snow white actresses’s comments about this exact thing, I highly doubt the majority of people would actually say this, especially if it was actually well written/sweet like most fan theories going around are saying the wish writers could have handled it @@h.t.awesome3822
It's almost like they realized "Oh shit it's the 100th anniversary this year" and slapped a gift together from found objects. Except it cost $200 million.
@@fatcat22able some shit aint adding up my boy i think your right, mathematically, scientifically. How is this possible? They breached a gap in the space-time continuum.
Charlie: “It’s not bad.” Also Charlie: “It’s really, really, painfully generic… It’s legitimately a full blown marketing campaign that could have been used as a commercial but was stretched into a feature length film…The ending is terrible. The ending is so, so, so bad…They didn’t even really have a story to tell.” Damn, I can’t even imagine what he’d have to say about a movie he thought was bad.
it IS bad. maybe people feel the need to emphasize it's not bad because it doesn't _look_ bad. the shots, the protagonist, the poster look really good, but that's all.
well, knowing Charlie, if it was genuinely terrible, he'd probably love it lmao I seem to remember the following quote "drawn like a fly to a pile of sh!t" with regard to Charlie's adoration for truly awful films and tv
A "bad" movie has the potential to be extremely enjoyable on an ironic level - the "so bad it's good" phenomenon. A mediocre movie doesn't have that potential. It just... exists. More of a "so okay it's average" kind of thing. Good or bad, the one thing a piece of art should never be is forgettable.
I don't get why companies like Disney aren't willing to take creative risks anymore. Disney has enough money to take some risk and still function without so much as a scratch yet they keep pumping out mediocre films it's beyond pathetic at this point how much they've dropped in quality for the sake of quantity
Yeah, but they're saying that Disney has so much resources by this point that any possible consequences from risks taken would be insubstantial compared to the scale of their company. @@tarael86
There's less competition now so they don't need to try. Especially now that parents don't care about film quality anymore. The past 10 years of Disney films have been a downward slope of quality.
Disney is literally just too big to fail. Even a tremendous flop like Wish will make its money back through streaming or literally just any other avenue of income Disney has, since they basically own the children's entertainment industry
Imagine making a character who lets people live in his kingdom for free. He doesn't coerce them, trick or force them. They willingly come and WILLINGLY give up their wishes and still- live happy. And hes somehow the bad guy
The movie also happens to be kind of communist/socialist propaganda. Even though, like you said, he lets them live there for pretty much free, because it's a single person in charge of making sure no bad wishes come true, it suddenly means he's the worst person ever. Saw another review of the movie and they pointed out why you can let every wish come true, sometimes those wishes will clash and be impossible for them to become true. Can't have someone wish that Person A wins a competition while someone else wishes that Person B wins. One person's wish simply can't come true because someone has to lose or they both lose (aka a tie).
@LJK401 tbf not every wish should be granted, if he did that it would be chaos. Yeah he's a jerk, but the dude isn't the only evil in the world is he?
Never really understood the 'it's only for children' angle. The parents have to buy the tickets and escort the aforementioned tots to the theater, and often are nearby when the kids put a movie onto the tv. They are absolutely going to be experiencing it, so they may as well go watch something they can also derive some enjoyment from as well. .
It's an excuse to get away with giving the bare minimum, or worse. People like that, tend to think children are stupid(and well, yeah. Kids are dumb, cause they are still developing.), thus, with that low bar, anything should be 'good enough', even if it's trash. You'll notice that every talented writer of children's content doesn't subscribe to that way of thinking. But the hacks, and people who cannot write to save their lives, love to push that line out.
Exactly why is say Frozen a kids movie but enjoyed by adults. I heard the parents say it was a really good movie to other parents without even the kids being there 🤷🏻♂️
@@corvus8638I think we’re entering a weird post-criticism world. I was just commenting on games recently how if you criticize one, someone one will inevitably say “well I’m having fun” which when you think about it is really just a variation of “well the film wasn’t made for you”
@joelmcknight9995 not really. It's perfectly fine to say you enjoy the game while someone else doesn't. Likewise it's perfectly fine to say what someone enjoys about a game, is what you don't enjoy about it Great example is rainbow 6, I personally hate how it's a competitive space that leaves no room for casual play, but my friend loves it because it's a competitive space. And that's perfectly fine.
A better story would be that the king turned out to be a good guy but the main character was led astray believing it would be better to grant all wishes when actually granting everyone's wishes would be chaotic, which is something they learn by the end of the film, kind of like the hero's journey. This would also work well as an allegory for greed, or the idea that you can't always get what you want.
Moreso in the middle. She grants everyone wishes but it's a disaster, so she finds a happy middle. He was only doing one wish a year which doesn't seem right.
Its commie propaganda to tell you that all wishes can be granted. Even good ones I wish for team A to win the competition. You wish for team B to win. Only one team can actually win. So what happens? Who gets their wish? Don’t give me that tie shit. If every game ended in a tie who would watch the game?
the fact that disney was so out of ideas that they modeled their antagonist based on their own actions is the most artistic thing about this movie 😭 WILD
Yes, I'll take the L+ratio and say I'm a Disney shill (not a Disney adult, I don't buy merch and I know what happened to Ubbe Iwerks and Don Bluth) Because they're the only fellas out there doing original animated feature musicals that isn't an illumination jukebox... And I'm in the wrong fucking hemisphere and continent to go on a night out for a Broadway or West end show for a new musical.
@@utubrGaming I respect your passion for musical theater but at the same time, I would heavily recommend against Disney. Yes they may be the only studio still making musical animation that's not trolls, but there quality, work ethic and business practices have taking such a massive dumpster dive to the point where I would rather watch trolls sober, over watching wish drunk out of my mind (and I don't even drink)
I saw somewhere that the original concept was to be a tribute to the history of animation at Disney. The original title was "When You Wish Upon A Star", a throwback to Jiminy Cricket and the Disney theme. Word was the writers room got hijacked by the "for a modern audience" crowd and the whole storyline got twisted.
When an Adam Sandler movie about a talking iguana has more merit and inspirations than a Disney movie released at the same time, then you know Disney really gotta shake things up.
It was a pretty neat movie, nothing crazily complicated or thought provoking but I don’t think it was trying to be anything like that. Just a cute, fun kids movie
Adam Sandler asks for $40 million for a budget and only spends $5 million, pockets the rest. I used to love Adam Sandler but he's just a massive con artist, just like Disney.
They really defeated the villain with the power of song, completely out of nowhere. Even My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic didn't have the gall to do that, not without at least first establishing that they indeed needed to sing to cast a spell and channel their magic.
There's a whole treasure trove of shows marketed towards children that have well-written stories executed in a proper fashion. It's odd that a movie, with a multimillion dollar budget, can't achieve that same success.
I know right? I think a team from the studio changed unnecessary things, the main character not having a love interest, the villian not just being evil, the animals talking. Wish could've been way better if the sorcerer was just evil who kept the wishes to be stronger and granted the wishes, like the best tailor wish, to attract people to his kingdom.
Let's keep it real, though. If you're watching Disney movies in your 30s, you need to talk to somebody. I haven't seen a Disney movie since that one about the fox and the dog. They're good for little children, but they're not for masculine guys.
I wonder if, due to the writer's strike or something, this was their first attempt at an AI written Disney movie. You know... testing the waters a bit to see how it would do. Basically ChatGPT learned off all previous Disney movies and made it's best attempt at a new one.
The fact that you can't tell the difference between lowest common denomination millinials and Gen z writers apart from ai is genuinely very amusing. These are your peers. This is what they think is passable. And a lot of you pay to see it. 😂yikes
@shyguy85 except it isn't because on what planet would it be largely millennials and GEN Z making decisions at Disney, creative or otherwise? I also could see someone having the exact same reaction to countless shit scripts that I know of written by 40 - 70 year olds so Yeah no
Chats only been around a year or so. I think this one is just bad writing, which weve seen more and more of. And the strike was way too recent to effect this one. Disney just forgot how to connect with audiences and tell stories with heart
@@ryand7239 Birth of a Nation came out in 1915. 1923 was well into the avant-garde era, dominated by German expressionism…which of course a certain mustache man hated as “degenerate art.”
Its sad that so many new movies feel so generic now, companies like disney really should be more willing to take more creative risks, rather than always doing the same boring concept
once companies get large enough to have a gigantic investor base, they tend not to take risks because all the investors will just pull out at the slightest red bar and make the company implode.
41 years ago, Disney released Tron. That was one of the biggest risks they've ever made, and it took so much effort and time to make (they literally drew every neon light by hand frame by frame). It did amazing, and it's really sad to see that they're afraid to make risks now. If they have billions of dollars to burn on crappy movies like Marvels or Eternals (that's MCU movies alone) then they're able to take risks. If they flop, it's not like they're making any less money than they already are.
I can't really blame the "villain" for wanting to keep his kingdom safe, imagine if he'd just grant every wish ever. Every Jeffrey Dahmer and Chris Chan's wish coming true, we'd live in a swirling abyss of chaos and poorly made OC drawings come to life.
If the villain granted every wish, realistically the kingdom would last only a few seconds A Child Somewhere: *Cant go outside due to rain* I wish there was no more rain Villain: Wish granted! *Removes possibility of rain* Kingdom: *All water gradually evaporates and never falls, reducing the kingdom to a dry desert*
I miss the old villains. Where villains were evil just bc they were evil, sure some had tragic backstories, but they weren't misunderstood, they still did bad shit, and trauma wasn't an excuse. Where are the amazing villain songs? How did we went from Hellfire, Friends from the other side, Be prepared, unfortunate souls, mother knows best.....to "I let you live rent free and I don't even charge you rent"? Hell, Jafar didn't even have a song of his own, he has a reprise of Prince Ali, and was still impactful
The Disney execs need to stay in their lane and should have ZERO influence on what the films they make are about because this is what u get. Really bland, boring, uninspired films that don't do anything well. It's just a forgettable film that didn't do anything.
Disney is just way to unemotional, I think it’s because they don’t want to make anything seem offensive when literally most of the movies before weren’t. Now jokes have a worse star rating than dads.
The shitty thing is that the suits at Disney are going to take away the wrong message: The art style is what made it bad. They're going to continue pumping out the same lame formula with the same lame art style, and they won't dare adjust it because the one time they did (Wish), they botched it. And they're not going to blame the writers.
sad part is that’s what some people are actually saying. People criticizing it for being mid is valid. But I also noticed that the movie has been getting a “Wind Waker” treatment, in that some people don’t like it solely for the art style. Which will probably convince Disney even more not to change and not to experiment further with different styles.
This style wasn't even supposed to be as it was, it was intended to be a 2D film and they used a lotta tricks to pretty it up. For what we got, they did solid with what they had because tryna make 3D look 2Dish is near impossible.
Whats really annoying about this is that this premise for the movie could have been the foundation for something really special. Like what if the sorcerer was only granting the safest wishes because he thought the others were too dangerous for the world and the people who make them. He sees himself as a guardian using his power to protect the world the only way he knows how, by limiting the potential of some people for the safety of the world. That could have been genuinely interesting and could have resulted in a fascinating villain that we've not seen before.
The strange thing about Wish getting basically no promotion is that it was meant to celebrate the company's 100th anniversary. I have to imagine there was some supreme hubris, they must have thought the ultimate flex would be to do the bare minimum of marketing and have it come out the gate swinging.
They advertised it on Instagram. As in, they put all of the important scenes of the film on reels and still expected ppl to want to watch it. Like, bruh, dont show everything for free like that.
They didn't market it because it wasn't made for a profit, but to copyright strike all fairytales and fables that use wishing going forward. Disney hates that their money keeps getting put in the public domain, and has spent the last 100 years getting laws changed to own characters well past the allowed time. Micky Mouse should have been public domain years ago, so they made him the logo/mascot, and then claimed him as branding instead of a character.
No shit, as Charlie started explaining the ending at 8:00, when he mentioned Star got captured I immediately started thinking "imagine if they stopped him by all singing". Literal O face when he revealed that's what happened. Holy shit.
Something was off in the animation… Tangled came out over a decade ago and looks miles better. Disney is obviously shitting out anything hoping for profit, i’m quite convinced Disneys going broke at this point.
Its a company worth billions, they are going broke, not even in a decade. Their spendings may be utter shit but they would have to go down this trend for a good long time before they even get to being broke.
This is what I thought! The animation is way less detailed than earlier films. If you look at the backgrounds in most scenes the lack of effort is even more apparent.
@@thattonnatoguywithafez8246 idk man, its not only the loss they take per movie, but because they're a publicly traded company they could spook investors and make the entire place implode. lord knows it doesnt take much for investors to withdraw their money.
@@thattonnatoguywithafez8246not as long as you might think. They “only” made $9B in profit for FY2023. That’s a ton of money, but that’s a 68% DECREASE from 2022! They’re burning money at an astonishing rate and not bringing as much back in. They can’t keep this up going into FY2024.
It's actually so disappointing when you look at previous character designs that they scrapped. Like it could have been so much better, there could have been potential romance with a magical star boy, an evil couple and wayyy better character designs. This could have been so unique but they chose to make it generic. The main character of wish just looks like Isabella from encanto but with braids.
The fact that Disney had little hype behind it and didn't really advertise it says everything you need to know. Disney will debase themselves advertising bad movies. But that they didn't this movie is telling.
@@hamsterrwrld6767 "Just got out of a big strike" doesn't justify mediocrity. If Disney continues to fail to satisfy their audience, it'll eventually fall apart.
In my opinion the worst thing a movie can do is be generic. There's a line where a movie is so bad that it starts to become entertaining and being generic gets right to cusp of that line and stops.
The ending was really bad, but what’s even more frustrating is that they had a better ending in their lap and they didn’t use it. They previously set up that her grandpa could write music that would incite a mob if he got his wish. After she gave him his wish back, that should have been how the towns people came together to defeat the wizard. It was already set up. It was right there.
Didn't watch the movie so take it as it is, but glad they didn't go with it, cause it seems the people would had move cause of a brainwash instead of their true feelings (or whatever it was)
Seeing Disney fail to make quality kids media, which used to be their whole thing, then turn around and cancel shows like the Owl House, which is a phenomenal show for all ages, disappoints me.
@@rewandemontayIt was announced as being cancelled, and it was the backlash of the fans that kept the show in production, albeit what was meant to be an entire season was shortened to a few forty-minute specials.
honestly i'm beginning to think Bluey is the only good kid-friendly content left nowadays. Bluey's damn great though, but kids surely want something more.@@hayp682
I think it would have been a cool twist to have Asha turn out to be this awful person that is actually some sort of villain, and have it be hinted throughout the film that we don't know our protagonist as well as we thought! when she's revealed, her goofy, and annoyingly quirky personality could have been just an awful coverup for evil.
You know what's the funniest part? Disney already had a perfectly good project to celebrate their 100th anniversary. The actually captivating and endearing "Once Upon A Studio". They even masterfully pulled off the blending of 2D and 3D animated characters there. Then they released "Wish" for the actual anniversary
I’d say Roger Rabbit and even Space Jam handled the mixing of those mediums better. The 2D characters don’t even really get shadows when an object is in front of them
I know Charlie won't see this but I figured I'd add my two cents. My uncle is a senior animator at Disney and worked on Wish. I had the opportunity to watch the film in theaters with him. He prefaced us going into the movie with "the story is just ok, not my favorite". He also let us know that this is meant to be like a 100 years of Disney hurrah so they added LOTS of easter eggs from previous films. Some were quite obvious like Bambi and Thumper and others a little more concealed like the main character's friends being the seven dwarves. I think the main focus for the movie was less, "let's make a great movie" and more, how can we fit as many references to our 100 year history in one film.
If it was a minor facet like “the jokes are not my favourite”, or hairstyles, or the intro… that’s acceptable. But a movie *is* a story! Could you ask him about the rumours of “activist” taking over? I think that’s an exaggeration, maybe better to say: people who vocally support the _correct_ political stances, rather than being skilled.
I haven’t seen the movie but the villain’s evilness doesn’t even sound that evil. He only grants wishes that will be safe for the kingdom? Yeah that sounds like what a responsible ruler would do-
Honestly, generic and boring are much worse than bad. Bad can be talked about, bad can be entertaining and thought provoking. Generic and boring leaves nothing and is forgotten as quickly as it is viewed. Even when you think of a bad movie that is just awful in every way, the taste it leaves sticks cause it's a nasty but memorable taste. Something amazing sticks with you because of all the good flavors it leaves on your memory. But boring? Boring is a rice cake. Consumed because you wanted something and it's so flavorless that you even forget you ate it. You'll remember the slop, you'll remember the gourmet dinner, you'll forget the rice cake right after you eat it.
Not to mention there’s some ‘kids’ movies that get better as you get older, like wall-e. Goes from a goofy movie about a funny robot as a kid to a genuinely heartwarming love story as an adult
They haven't been an animation studio for a long time, not surprised it was lacking. Imagine that, most known animation studio for decades, suddenly abandoning their roots and becoming known for bad writing, bad live action remakes and capitalism overkill, buying every IP known to man and ruining them all whilst still making bank.
So the bad guy (Disney allegory) was defeated by all the working class banding together (unionizing) and wishing so hard (pro union lobbying) that their wishes were fulfilled and the bad guy was beaten? Huh, interesting.
I work at Macy's, where we have a Toys r Us department, and we're chock full of the toys and honestly I thought it was just a toy line not a movie. I've literally put the toys on the shelves, packed them for shipment to customers, and thought this. That's how little publicity this movie has gotten.
The reason they made it was to lose money because making a traditional animation movie is harder to make, so if they release a bad few or put them up against movies that will make it bomb, they can say “people obviously don’t want this” to the shareholders. They did this with Princess and the Frog by releasing it against Avatar. They’ve done this all the way back to Tarzan, despite them developing software that they’ve leased out to other companies that will animate backgrounds for them on scenes
@@0megaWarrior You can really easily see a pattern of releasing traditionally animated movies that are either not marketed at all, like this one, or released against a movie that will dominate the box office, like Avatar. Traditional animation costs more money to make a feature length movie
I've yet to fully understand the plot. A girl finds a star and it does something. Then there's a bad guy who wants it. There's a talking goat too. That's it lol.
@arf3433 Ya the characters hardly have any development whatsoever and nothing is really explained. They're all boring and meaningless. Magnifico just suddenly turns evil and we don't know why. There's no background story that tries to justify his views and actions. It's like a bunch of 5 year olds came up with this story.
@@johnpurdy3336 or like people came up with plot ideas. Then the head execs were like nope to every idea and cuts off brain storming for everything that was missing. Then just decided it'll make money and went with it.
Wish is even worse when you realize the film was supposed to be a homage of 100 years of Disney , yet it failed to capture the good of Disney back in the day.
It would have been a perfect excuse for them to go back to a traditional animation style even if it were computer aided like every other cartoon nowadays, and not just a bunch of nods to previous movies.
From what I've seen on Twitter, this movie would've actually been more interesting if they didn't scrap their original idea they had for it. And this original idea felt a lot more classic Disney-like. It's really too bad what Disney's become...I've even noticed since 2018 or 2019 that they haven't been advertising their newer movies like crazy anymore except for their Frozen sequels. There would be these Disney movies I'd see pop up on social media and I'd be like, "They made a new movie? Since when?"
ikr, I saw that post and it was SUCH a fun concept and they even had first truly evil Disney couple as villains? I wonder why Disney even has character design department if they ignore anything they say 💀
One element I wish the film fleshed out more was the city of Rosas itself. During the opening musical number, the city is propped up as this all inclusive melting pot. People from all over the world come to Rosas, so why doesn't the city and its people reflect that? The city could sport architecture, fashion, and culture from a myriad of different countries and creeds. Instead, it just kinda feels like a stock medieval city. Like some place you'd see in The Dragon Prince.
It's pretty amazing how Disney is just floundering one project after another across so many franchises. It really just goes to show that it's not necessarily burn out or a franchise getting stale, if anything, there's a Disney fatigue lol
disney stopped caring. every project is now just a cash grab. and as people have begun to realize that, theyve stopped offering cash to grab. hire a bunch of no names for cheap, rehash some old stories to save on writing time, crop in some 'approved messaging' to appease twitter, crop in some nostalgia to bait your dwindling loyal fans, cut a few corners with ai, then crap it all out and whine how everyone asking for some good entertainment is just an ist-a-phobe. rinse repeat next year
Disney is working as hard as possible to become the Blizzard of movies and I love to hate it. Remember Disney, this all began with your copyright trolling. The path you took to this point naturally followed that. If this is how they mark their 100th anniversary, then we're going to see the fall off of a century this coming decade.
4:40 when you explained it that way about the movie being an allegory for Disney making pieces of crap content instead of listening and granting the 'wishes' i.e the hopes and dreams of their fans, that was the funniest thing I have heard this morning 🤣
I don't know how they even end up taking the biggest risks while pretending like they don't like taking risks. It's insanity, doing something over and over expecting a different result, and it's not gonna happen.
exactly like how is "lets make a black-girl-power sequel to a movie no one liked with 3 female leads 2 of whom nobody knows played by actors nobody's heard of and a female villain nobody's heard of played by an actor nobody's heard of" considered low-risk and safe? they could have literally set $150 million on fire and lost less money.
I watched it and its like every disney trope/stereotype ever put into one movie. 1. Quirky female protagonist 2. Cute animal companion 3. Talking singing animals 4. “NEVER GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAMS” 5. Edgy and serious friend that helps the main character 6. Character that is seen as saviour and reveals to be evil 7. Friendship and love saves the day for no reason to easily end the movie
That doesn't even sound like a villain. If he wanted he could just keep his magic to himself, but he chooses to at least grant some wishes here and there. He's not going around rising zombies to conquer the world or something, or at least that's what I understood from this video.
I think everyone was expecting a lot coming from Disney, considering it would be the 100th anniversary for Disney. Having someone who had no experience in musical theatre and write about pop, hired as a composer, is stupid.
I honestly felt the final act was great... Until Asha started singing and that's how the villain got defeated. That was so bad the entire theater started laughing
Funny or sadly enough, there is now a theory going around that the songs or at lest half of em were written by the AI, thus they are so lame and boring af. But nah, the truth is more mundane: Disney hired song writers who have ZERO experience/knowledge in the theatrical music writing, but they only did some gigs for commercials and generic ass pop songs💀
With all these new original Disney films flopping it won’t even surprise me if they go back to all the sequels with Frozen, Cars, Toy Story, and more Inside Out films.
@@Guy336-gh3qtI hope if they make a sequel to that then the Sad emotion commits suicide and we get to see how the main character falls into numbness lol. It would be relatable to all the disney fans who are now dead inside
The hate is being blown out of proportion because of the context, Disney's 100th anniversary. Had this been released a year earlier or later... It would still be forgettable but no one would care
I feel like, on some level, Disney kinda knows it can’t make decent films anymore. The pure fact that they announced not long ago that they were dumping more resources into their theme parks spoke volumes to me.
In unamed retail place I work at in the mall, we received 3 or 4 shipments of Wish merchandise BEFORE Haloween for our Black Friday Sales... none of them are selling. We haven't sold a single product. And nobody really knew what the movie was about when we received the products
The idea of connecting the Disney animated films together (or at least hinting at this) through the 100tg anniversary film is actually kind of a novel idea but they went the most boring and safe way of doing this by just going “this character is actually this character, and so is this one” it’s just rlly lazy and squanders an idea that could’ve been rlly cool and profound
The best thing they could have done for 100 years of making movies would have been to release a new 2D animated movie. They have a group working on hand-drawn 2D animation again, they COULD do it- they just don't.
Some people say it’s because of Disney not wanting to hire unionized animators. It’s probably also because disney saw how popular and praised both spiderverse movies art styles are (2D elements drawn onto 3d models to look more 2 dimensionally) and wanted to do something like it. But failing because people want 2D movies again from Disney and the common critique of wish is that the animation looks unfinished
Its not just Disney movies either , it’s everything now a days . And I know it takes longer and more money. But dang I miss movies that used actual hand drawings for the show , and not completely A.I computer graphics . That goes for both animation and live action. I miss when live action movies used real puppets and special effects makeup and real material made set ups . I can’t explain it. It’s like old movies ( before early mid 2000 or whenever computer graphic’s completely took over ) movies and cartoons had this cozy and lively feel to it, and maybe that’s the nostalgic 90s kid in me , but for real , even crappy b movies back in the 90s or before had this actual soulful feeling to it that was definitely made by a human and you knew it. Does anyone else understand what I’m saying ? Maybe it’s just me and I’m weird…
Disney chose to do quantity over quality and it shows. Elementals, haunted mansion, and wish all looked very generic and uninteresting. Disney needs to take a step back, make less stuff, and focus on good stories to produce. At least that's my opinion.
Is a Disney product not being good a surprise at this point? The company has been abysmal since Avengers Infinity War. They have had the occasional decent movie but overall it's been painful. They have done the impossible though, ruined Star Wars, Marvel and Indiana Jones... very impressive. I just don't pay attention to Disney anymore.
I thought you said The Incredibles was 29 years old and I had an existential crisis. Then I remembered, you're 29 and was referring to yourself. Had a sigh of relief... until I remembered that the Incredibles released in 2004, and that's still NINETEEN years ago.
@@emanuele9238I am! And I agree. Charlie is compelling, intelligent, entertaining, articulate- I could go on. I know I am much older than his target audience, but like any good creator, enjoyable and appreciated by all ages and demographics 😂
Honestly appreciate the balanced take. I haven’t seen it myself yet but I willingly admit that when it comes to Disney or any other animated musicals, I’m often rather easy to please. Even if I’m not impressed or dazzled, it doesn’t take much to move me emotionally, and having that more subjective, emotion-based perspective often leaves me baffled at how critical or dismissive some people are about stuff I find myself enjoying, even if I can admit its shortcomings. But being able to just say ‘Meh, but I see why people don’t like it’? That’s surprisingly tame by internet review standards lol 😂
It should have been more like Fantasy Island where people come to the kingdom to get their wishes granted but there's a price they must pay which leads to self discovery and personal growth. Also, Tattoo could be a talking dog with a French accent or something like that.
6:38 funny you should mention AI, because tons of people have speculated that this movie was made with AI. As someone who wants to compose music for a living, that's terrifying to me
Charlie you probably won’t see this but I wanted to say thank you. My life has been changing a lot recently and I’ve been pretty depressed and some other stuff that I really don’t need to go into but you’re always a constant. Your goofy videos and your personality have helped me through so many hard times just because I know when you post I get a break from my day and just get to laugh along with you and smile. Thank you so much for being who you are and posting as often as you do. You’re my favorite person that I don’t know 😂 Quick edit. I’m not in an uncommon situation many people feel the same way I do about various content creators it’s not a matter of wanting attention or copy and paste it’s just when you have an audience of millions it’s typical in my opinion to have people that say things along the lines of what I said here. It doesn’t make it any less genuine or at least that’s what I think
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One of my biggest complaints about the film is that they for some godforsaken reason decided to hire composers who had zero experience in musical theatre and only wrote pop music…for a 100th anniversary Disney film…like what????
No lie it sounded like Taylor Swift was performing every song.
They should've brought back Hans Zimmer or something.
thats probably all they could afford with all these flops.
because "cheaper" lol
Who did they hire?
"A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest." -- C.S Lewis
And that’s a fact.
Man spoke facts
Big facts.
He said it more succinctly , but I want to add that any piece of art that gets worse the more you know, is not good.
There's stories out there that get better the more you look at them and the more you understand, like Lilo and Stitch or Wall-E. Then there are ones like Wreck it Ralph 2.
@@WhistlingStickman Dude the only reason I even remember Wreck-It-Ralph 2 exists is because of Shadman's art being seared into my brain. That's not a good thing.
I wish Disney would take a risk and make a traditional 2D animated film again.
Would be worth seeing just for being something different.
That would be so awesome if it was good, I honestly miss 2D animation
This is how I feel about anime. I want the 90’s art style to make a comeback.
nah, at this point I just want to see them go under. i want dozens of smaller companies to take their place and make masterpieces from actual passion projects.
How is that taking a risk?
@@VenosValentineshut ur mouth
Fun fact, in the early stages of development, this movie was actually meant to be fully traditionally animated in 2D, however they scrapped that idea because of "limits on camera movement and characterization". Which is just corporate speak for skill issue
I am an entity of the corporation.
It's a very easy fix too they could have just used 3d models for reference than drawn over it 💀
Limits on camera movement? First thing I thought about was James Baxter's ballroom scene in Beauty and the Beast😂
Easy, they fired all the competent, skilled people who have been doing animation for years. While the rest are on strike
Animators at Disney have pretty much confirmed there will never be another full 2D animated Disney feature again, because the talent, equipment, and processes are all gone for good, and even if that wasn't the case, the culture is actively hostile to 2D animators. And Disney's own staff are the ones claiming this.
So yes, skill issue.
What hurts me the most is the scrapped starboy concept. Disney replaced him with that generic little star because he was "too hard to design." They were on the cusp of delivering a Disney princess movie about a princess falling in love with a shape-shifting shooting star and teaming up with him to fight Disney's first every villain couple. A classic Disney film, appropriate for the 100 year celebration. AND THEY SCRAPPED IT BECAUSE IT WAS "TOO HARD TO DESIGN."
Their test audience will say shit like “She doesn’t need a man’s help to defeat them”
Seeing the reception to that new snow white actresses’s comments about this exact thing, I highly doubt the majority of people would actually say this, especially if it was actually well written/sweet like most fan theories going around are saying the wish writers could have handled it @@h.t.awesome3822
WE WERE FUCKING ROBBED 😭😭😭😭
Meanwhile The Collector from Owl House is basically a Star Child, lmao.
@@h.t.awesome3822test audience will say MAKE HER GAY AND MAKE IT LAME
I *WISH* that Disney would take the hint that what they're doing is ruining their reputation.
I see what you did there
@@SMCwasTakendo you? I don’t. It’s so not obvious that it definitely warrants a comment
@@WubbyPunchwhat is the name of the movie charlie is talking about.... and than re read the comment.. Enjoy!
I wish that disney would be deleted
@@laa0fa502 Your ability to detect sarcasm is second to none.
It's almost like they realized "Oh shit it's the 100th anniversary this year" and slapped a gift together from found objects. Except it cost $200 million.
@@Sir_Psych
Stolen comment.
Across the Spider-Verse only cost $100 million. That Wish cost twice as much shouldn’t even be scientifically possible.
@@fatcat22able some shit aint adding up my boy i think your right, mathematically, scientifically. How is this possible? They breached a gap in the space-time continuum.
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@@fatcat22ableIt’s incredibly possible, the Spider-verse team was overworked and probably underpaid
Charlie: “It’s not bad.”
Also Charlie: “It’s really, really, painfully generic… It’s legitimately a full blown marketing campaign that could have been used as a commercial but was stretched into a feature length film…The ending is terrible. The ending is so, so, so bad…They didn’t even really have a story to tell.”
Damn, I can’t even imagine what he’d have to say about a movie he thought was bad.
it IS bad. maybe people feel the need to emphasize it's not bad because it doesn't _look_ bad. the shots, the protagonist, the poster look really good, but that's all.
well, knowing Charlie, if it was genuinely terrible, he'd probably love it lmao I seem to remember the following quote "drawn like a fly to a pile of sh!t" with regard to Charlie's adoration for truly awful films and tv
A "bad" movie has the potential to be extremely enjoyable on an ironic level - the "so bad it's good" phenomenon. A mediocre movie doesn't have that potential. It just... exists. More of a "so okay it's average" kind of thing. Good or bad, the one thing a piece of art should never be is forgettable.
There’s still something’s to enjoy about it
@@Ab3lhere Name one. And if you even think about mentioning the "music", instant turn away from me.
I don't get why companies like Disney aren't willing to take creative risks anymore. Disney has enough money to take some risk and still function without so much as a scratch yet they keep pumping out mediocre films it's beyond pathetic at this point how much they've dropped in quality for the sake of quantity
The thing about risks is that they're risky. Big news, I know.
Yeah, but they're saying that Disney has so much resources by this point that any possible consequences from risks taken would be insubstantial compared to the scale of their company. @@tarael86
Christian parents hate creativity.
There's less competition now so they don't need to try. Especially now that parents don't care about film quality anymore. The past 10 years of Disney films have been a downward slope of quality.
Disney is literally just too big to fail. Even a tremendous flop like Wish will make its money back through streaming or literally just any other avenue of income Disney has, since they basically own the children's entertainment industry
Imagine making a character who lets people live in his kingdom for free. He doesn't coerce them, trick or force them. They willingly come and WILLINGLY give up their wishes and still- live happy.
And hes somehow the bad guy
The movie also happens to be kind of communist/socialist propaganda. Even though, like you said, he lets them live there for pretty much free, because it's a single person in charge of making sure no bad wishes come true, it suddenly means he's the worst person ever. Saw another review of the movie and they pointed out why you can let every wish come true, sometimes those wishes will clash and be impossible for them to become true. Can't have someone wish that Person A wins a competition while someone else wishes that Person B wins. One person's wish simply can't come true because someone has to lose or they both lose (aka a tie).
I mean only granting one wish a year sounds pretty shitty, but from all I'm reading they definitely could've did a better job showing he's evil
@LJK401 tbf not every wish should be granted, if he did that it would be chaos. Yeah he's a jerk, but the dude isn't the only evil in the world is he?
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 yeah but he also could choose not to give out any wishes at all
@queenAmenahbestvldeosonytur parents dont give u attention right
Never really understood the 'it's only for children' angle. The parents have to buy the tickets and escort the aforementioned tots to the theater, and often are nearby when the kids put a movie onto the tv. They are absolutely going to be experiencing it, so they may as well go watch something they can also derive some enjoyment from as well. .
It's an excuse to get away with giving the bare minimum, or worse. People like that, tend to think children are stupid(and well, yeah. Kids are dumb, cause they are still developing.), thus, with that low bar, anything should be 'good enough', even if it's trash.
You'll notice that every talented writer of children's content doesn't subscribe to that way of thinking.
But the hacks, and people who cannot write to save their lives, love to push that line out.
They did the same thing with Black Panther and Captain Marvel. If somebody criticized the films they would just say “the film wasn’t made for you”
Exactly why is say Frozen a kids movie but enjoyed by adults. I heard the parents say it was a really good movie to other parents without even the kids being there 🤷🏻♂️
@@corvus8638I think we’re entering a weird post-criticism world. I was just commenting on games recently how if you criticize one, someone one will inevitably say “well I’m having fun” which when you think about it is really just a variation of “well the film wasn’t made for you”
@joelmcknight9995 not really. It's perfectly fine to say you enjoy the game while someone else doesn't. Likewise it's perfectly fine to say what someone enjoys about a game, is what you don't enjoy about it
Great example is rainbow 6, I personally hate how it's a competitive space that leaves no room for casual play, but my friend loves it because it's a competitive space. And that's perfectly fine.
"Not having a story to tell" seems to be a major issue at Disney
A better story would be that the king turned out to be a good guy but the main character was led astray believing it would be better to grant all wishes when actually granting everyone's wishes would be chaotic, which is something they learn by the end of the film, kind of like the hero's journey. This would also work well as an allegory for greed, or the idea that you can't always get what you want.
Penguinz0 says a whole lot of nothing. Boring. My animations are vastly superior.
Moreso in the middle. She grants everyone wishes but it's a disaster, so she finds a happy middle. He was only doing one wish a year which doesn't seem right.
Its commie propaganda to tell you that all wishes can be granted. Even good ones
I wish for team A to win the competition. You wish for team B to win. Only one team can actually win. So what happens? Who gets their wish? Don’t give me that tie shit. If every game ended in a tie who would watch the game?
@@Jair2435 Ah yes Disney the multibillionndollar company is famously very communist and for the people
@@Jair2435Competition is bourgeoisie morality, comrade
the fact that disney was so out of ideas that they modeled their antagonist based on their own actions is the most artistic thing about this movie 😭 WILD
Yes, I'll take the L+ratio and say I'm a Disney shill (not a Disney adult, I don't buy merch and I know what happened to Ubbe Iwerks and Don Bluth)
Because they're the only fellas out there doing original animated feature musicals that isn't an illumination jukebox...
And I'm in the wrong fucking hemisphere and continent to go on a night out for a Broadway or West end show for a new musical.
@sandraswan9008 Homie REALLY likes musicals.
@@utubrGaming I respect your passion for musical theater but at the same time, I would heavily recommend against Disney. Yes they may be the only studio still making musical animation that's not trolls, but there quality, work ethic and business practices have taking such a massive dumpster dive to the point where I would rather watch trolls sober, over watching wish drunk out of my mind (and I don't even drink)
I'm just imagining a starved writer disguising their cries for help and complaints about the company as stories
Thats the name of the next movie *WILD*😂
I saw somewhere that the original concept was to be a tribute to the history of animation at Disney. The original title was "When You Wish Upon A Star", a throwback to Jiminy Cricket and the Disney theme. Word was the writers room got hijacked by the "for a modern audience" crowd and the whole storyline got twisted.
critical drinker: "mOdErN aUdIeNcEs"
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It's like a writer submitted a thinly-veiled threat against the Disney executives in script form and the joke got out of hand
When an Adam Sandler movie about a talking iguana has more merit and inspirations than a Disney movie released at the same time, then you know Disney really gotta shake things up.
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Excuse me a talking what?
It was a pretty neat movie, nothing crazily complicated or thought provoking but I don’t think it was trying to be anything like that. Just a cute, fun kids movie
Adam Sandler asks for $40 million for a budget and only spends $5 million, pockets the rest. I used to love Adam Sandler but he's just a massive con artist, just like Disney.
@@UTTPCaptaincringe
They really defeated the villain with the power of song, completely out of nowhere. Even My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic didn't have the gall to do that, not without at least first establishing that they indeed needed to sing to cast a spell and channel their magic.
There's a whole treasure trove of shows marketed towards children that have well-written stories executed in a proper fashion. It's odd that a movie, with a multimillion dollar budget, can't achieve that same success.
Well they had to satisfy the Broneys…
@@nintendofan_64 _Who_ had to satisfy the Bronies? Bronies don't give a fuck about Disney.
Even MLP had at least one Dragonball level fight at one point, complete with giant lasers...
Seeing the concept designs and the plans they had for the movie, and then seeing the final product is greatly disappointing imo.
I know right? I think a team from the studio changed unnecessary things, the main character not having a love interest, the villian not just being evil, the animals talking. Wish could've been way better if the sorcerer was just evil who kept the wishes to be stronger and granted the wishes, like the best tailor wish, to attract people to his kingdom.
Let's keep it real, though. If you're watching Disney movies in your 30s, you need to talk to somebody. I haven't seen a Disney movie since that one about the fox and the dog. They're good for little children, but they're not for masculine guys.
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@@RobbieStacks90oh god not you
@@RobbieStacks90 "WHERE ARE ALL THE MASCULINE MEN?!" energy 💀💀💀💀
I wonder if, due to the writer's strike or something, this was their first attempt at an AI written Disney movie. You know... testing the waters a bit to see how it would do. Basically ChatGPT learned off all previous Disney movies and made it's best attempt at a new one.
The fact that you can't tell the difference between lowest common denomination millinials and Gen z writers apart from ai is genuinely very amusing. These are your peers. This is what they think is passable. And a lot of you pay to see it. 😂yikes
@@lucamckenn5932Turning legitimate criticism of a piece of work into "your generation sux lol lmao" is a fucking Olympic-level leap bro. Congrats.
@@thatdude337kinda true though
@shyguy85 except it isn't because on what planet would it be largely millennials and GEN Z making decisions at Disney, creative or otherwise?
I also could see someone having the exact same reaction to countless shit scripts that I know of written by 40 - 70 year olds so
Yeah no
Chats only been around a year or so. I think this one is just bad writing, which weve seen more and more of. And the strike was way too recent to effect this one. Disney just forgot how to connect with audiences and tell stories with heart
What a way to commemorate Disney’s history, it really shows the devolution of the film industry over these 100 years. One word: Bravo 👏🏻
Oh yea today’s film industry is greatly devolved and surely worse than The Birth of a Nation for sure. L opinion
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@ryand7239 tf are you talking about😂
@@ryand7239
Birth of a Nation came out in 1915. 1923 was well into the avant-garde era, dominated by German expressionism…which of course a certain mustache man hated as “degenerate art.”
@@warlordofbritannia yea but disney was a nazi either way lol
Too bad the writers didn’t think to have one of the characters wish for the movie to be good. That would have solved all their problems.
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Penguinz0 says a whole lot of nothing. Boring. My animations are vastly superior.
Single digit ages have invaded the reply section here
That joke is so funny. I want to kiss you now
Well they only had 200 million bucks . . . how could they afford a writer?
Its sad that so many new movies feel so generic now, companies like disney really should be more willing to take more creative risks, rather than always doing the same boring concept
once companies get large enough to have a gigantic investor base, they tend not to take risks because all the investors will just pull out at the slightest red bar and make the company implode.
Especially with where Disney started
They care more about profits than actually creating inventive content
41 years ago, Disney released Tron. That was one of the biggest risks they've ever made, and it took so much effort and time to make (they literally drew every neon light by hand frame by frame). It did amazing, and it's really sad to see that they're afraid to make risks now. If they have billions of dollars to burn on crappy movies like Marvels or Eternals (that's MCU movies alone) then they're able to take risks. If they flop, it's not like they're making any less money than they already are.
@@shrimp.trap3 Funny thing is that if they took risks they'd probably make more money.
I can't really blame the "villain" for wanting to keep his kingdom safe, imagine if he'd just grant every wish ever. Every Jeffrey Dahmer and Chris Chan's wish coming true, we'd live in a swirling abyss of chaos and poorly made OC drawings come to life.
If the villain granted every wish, realistically the kingdom would last only a few seconds
A Child Somewhere: *Cant go outside due to rain* I wish there was no more rain
Villain: Wish granted! *Removes possibility of rain*
Kingdom: *All water gradually evaporates and never falls, reducing the kingdom to a dry desert*
Then why did he let anyone wish to him in the first place ?
Who is Chris Chan?
@@Firebolt7317it’s been 4 months, idk who’s gonna tell him
@@sirenspace_ please I need to know
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I miss the old villains. Where villains were evil just bc they were evil, sure some had tragic backstories, but they weren't misunderstood, they still did bad shit, and trauma wasn't an excuse. Where are the amazing villain songs? How did we went from Hellfire, Friends from the other side, Be prepared, unfortunate souls, mother knows best.....to "I let you live rent free and I don't even charge you rent"?
Hell, Jafar didn't even have a song of his own, he has a reprise of Prince Ali, and was still impactful
@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt you didn’t make animation you made a gacha life, that is not you animating.
So do the member berries..
Did you know that cats can be gay lesbian or bisexual :3
@@Freckle_McMurraywhat does that have to do with anything?
People better not blame the animators for this, blame disney directly, they meddled with the movie throughout the whole development.
The Disney execs need to stay in their lane and should have ZERO influence on what the films they make are about because this is what u get. Really bland, boring, uninspired films that don't do anything well. It's just a forgettable film that didn't do anything.
And the execs are not going to see the film’s failure as their fault for messing with it, they’ll just do it again which is the sad part
@@hyperstarman6848 Exactly 💯
And the simple fact that they keep pushing woke garbage.
Disney is just way to unemotional, I think it’s because they don’t want to make anything seem offensive when literally most of the movies before weren’t. Now jokes have a worse star rating than dads.
The shitty thing is that the suits at Disney are going to take away the wrong message: The art style is what made it bad. They're going to continue pumping out the same lame formula with the same lame art style, and they won't dare adjust it because the one time they did (Wish), they botched it. And they're not going to blame the writers.
sad part is that’s what some people are actually saying.
People criticizing it for being mid is valid. But I also noticed that the movie has been getting a “Wind Waker” treatment, in that some people don’t like it solely for the art style. Which will probably convince Disney even more not to change and not to experiment further with different styles.
This style wasn't even supposed to be as it was, it was intended to be a 2D film and they used a lotta tricks to pretty it up. For what we got, they did solid with what they had because tryna make 3D look 2Dish is near impossible.
Whats really annoying about this is that this premise for the movie could have been the foundation for something really special. Like what if the sorcerer was only granting the safest wishes because he thought the others were too dangerous for the world and the people who make them. He sees himself as a guardian using his power to protect the world the only way he knows how, by limiting the potential of some people for the safety of the world.
That could have been genuinely interesting and could have resulted in a fascinating villain that we've not seen before.
I mean that kinda is what he believes though..
@@brewster9235
Then they introduced evil magic making it pointless
@@asain3586 but it’s still his motivation, which is what this comment was about.
So a metaphor for God?
@@SinTransphobicTrigger?
It's not "bad".
It's just soulless and corporate.
Which is what Disney is
The strange thing about Wish getting basically no promotion is that it was meant to celebrate the company's 100th anniversary. I have to imagine there was some supreme hubris, they must have thought the ultimate flex would be to do the bare minimum of marketing and have it come out the gate swinging.
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They advertised it on Instagram. As in, they put all of the important scenes of the film on reels and still expected ppl to want to watch it. Like, bruh, dont show everything for free like that.
Happy 100 year anniversary your company is nearly bankrupt 👏👏👏
They didn't market it because it wasn't made for a profit, but to copyright strike all fairytales and fables that use wishing going forward. Disney hates that their money keeps getting put in the public domain, and has spent the last 100 years getting laws changed to own characters well past the allowed time. Micky Mouse should have been public domain years ago, so they made him the logo/mascot, and then claimed him as branding instead of a character.
@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt🤡🤡🤡🤖🤖🤖
No shit, as Charlie started explaining the ending at 8:00, when he mentioned Star got captured I immediately started thinking "imagine if they stopped him by all singing". Literal O face when he revealed that's what happened. Holy shit.
Something was off in the animation… Tangled came out over a decade ago and looks miles better. Disney is obviously shitting out anything hoping for profit, i’m quite convinced Disneys going broke at this point.
Its a company worth billions, they are going broke, not even in a decade.
Their spendings may be utter shit but they would have to go down this trend for a good long time before they even get to being broke.
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This is what I thought! The animation is way less detailed than earlier films. If you look at the backgrounds in most scenes the lack of effort is even more apparent.
@@thattonnatoguywithafez8246 idk man, its not only the loss they take per movie, but because they're a publicly traded company they could spook investors and make the entire place implode. lord knows it doesnt take much for investors to withdraw their money.
@@thattonnatoguywithafez8246not as long as you might think.
They “only” made $9B in profit for FY2023. That’s a ton of money, but that’s a 68% DECREASE from 2022! They’re burning money at an astonishing rate and not bringing as much back in. They can’t keep this up going into FY2024.
It's actually so disappointing when you look at previous character designs that they scrapped. Like it could have been so much better, there could have been potential romance with a magical star boy, an evil couple and wayyy better character designs. This could have been so unique but they chose to make it generic.
The main character of wish just looks like Isabella from encanto but with braids.
The fact that Disney had little hype behind it and didn't really advertise it says everything you need to know. Disney will debase themselves advertising bad movies. But that they didn't this movie is telling.
You realize we just got out of a big strike correct? Or were you just born?
@@hamsterrwrld6767
"Just got out of a big strike" doesn't justify mediocrity.
If Disney continues to fail to satisfy their audience, it'll eventually fall apart.
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I saw tons of ads for this movie
@@hamsterrwrld6767 How long do you think movies take to be made? It was RELEASED coming out of a strike. It takes years to make a movie.
In my opinion the worst thing a movie can do is be generic. There's a line where a movie is so bad that it starts to become entertaining and being generic gets right to cusp of that line and stops.
The ending was really bad, but what’s even more frustrating is that they had a better ending in their lap and they didn’t use it. They previously set up that her grandpa could write music that would incite a mob if he got his wish. After she gave him his wish back, that should have been how the towns people came together to defeat the wizard. It was already set up. It was right there.
Didn't watch the movie so take it as it is, but glad they didn't go with it, cause it seems the people would had move cause of a brainwash instead of their true feelings (or whatever it was)
its a kids movie , if your 20-30 , its probably not for you , people forget that these movies are for kids
@@pbsuite Did you watch the video? or even read a single comment? lmfao
@@pbsuiteWhy are we making excuses for bad writing?
@@pbsuitewomp womp ‼️
I wish Disney took some notes from indie animators.
They'd rather steal ideas and execute them poorly than actually allow their artists and animators to be genuinely creative.
@ChiefUTTPwhat content?
@@DR_L3G0 its just a bot
@@juicyskittle6020 I know.
there was hate for klaus it was good though
Seeing Disney fail to make quality kids media, which used to be their whole thing, then turn around and cancel shows like the Owl House, which is a phenomenal show for all ages, disappoints me.
That show is shit bro
Technical point: TOH wasn't canceled---it got shortened.
@@hayp682a fellow fantasia fan. My favorite was bald mountain. It was the animation that brought me to try animation as my original dream job
@@rewandemontayIt was announced as being cancelled, and it was the backlash of the fans that kept the show in production, albeit what was meant to be an entire season was shortened to a few forty-minute specials.
honestly i'm beginning to think Bluey is the only good kid-friendly content left nowadays. Bluey's damn great though, but kids surely want something more.@@hayp682
I think it would have been a cool twist to have Asha turn out to be this awful person that is actually some sort of villain, and have it be hinted throughout the film that we don't know our protagonist as well as we thought! when she's revealed, her goofy, and annoyingly quirky personality could have been just an awful coverup for evil.
Tbh that would have been a good twist
You know what's the funniest part? Disney already had a perfectly good project to celebrate their 100th anniversary. The actually captivating and endearing "Once Upon A Studio". They even masterfully pulled off the blending of 2D and 3D animated characters there. Then they released "Wish" for the actual anniversary
I’d say Roger Rabbit and even Space Jam handled the mixing of those mediums better. The 2D characters don’t even really get shadows when an object is in front of them
I know Charlie won't see this but I figured I'd add my two cents. My uncle is a senior animator at Disney and worked on Wish. I had the opportunity to watch the film in theaters with him. He prefaced us going into the movie with "the story is just ok, not my favorite". He also let us know that this is meant to be like a 100 years of Disney hurrah so they added LOTS of easter eggs from previous films. Some were quite obvious like Bambi and Thumper and others a little more concealed like the main character's friends being the seven dwarves. I think the main focus for the movie was less, "let's make a great movie" and more, how can we fit as many references to our 100 year history in one film.
Makes sense to me
Sounds like an awful idea to me 😂
If it was a minor facet like “the jokes are not my favourite”, or hairstyles, or the intro… that’s acceptable. But a movie *is* a story!
Could you ask him about the rumours of “activist” taking over? I think that’s an exaggeration, maybe better to say: people who vocally support the _correct_ political stances, rather than being skilled.
This is why you don’t fill a movie with fan service
*cough* stars wars *cough*
For someone who actually worked on it to call it mid, it must truly be mid.
"The day is saved by workers unionizing and eliminating the CEO entirely" is a weird direction for a Disney film to go in, but I'm here for it
That movie is literally a cry for help from the production team
I mean if it wasn’t so poorly written then maybe it would’ve been good, but here it’s just annoying.
It’s just “CURRENT THING” the movie
Lmfao
Cringe
Disney is really pndering to the Chinese Communist Party lately
I haven’t seen the movie but the villain’s evilness doesn’t even sound that evil.
He only grants wishes that will be safe for the kingdom? Yeah that sounds like what a responsible ruler would do-
He only grants wishes that are conducive to him staying in *power* , not in the best interests of his subjects. 100% narcissistic dictator...
Honestly, generic and boring are much worse than bad. Bad can be talked about, bad can be entertaining and thought provoking. Generic and boring leaves nothing and is forgotten as quickly as it is viewed. Even when you think of a bad movie that is just awful in every way, the taste it leaves sticks cause it's a nasty but memorable taste. Something amazing sticks with you because of all the good flavors it leaves on your memory. But boring? Boring is a rice cake. Consumed because you wanted something and it's so flavorless that you even forget you ate it. You'll remember the slop, you'll remember the gourmet dinner, you'll forget the rice cake right after you eat it.
Slop mentioned
@@morganwalz3938pyro live reference
Not to mention there’s some ‘kids’ movies that get better as you get older, like wall-e. Goes from a goofy movie about a funny robot as a kid to a genuinely heartwarming love story as an adult
same with up. that movie is surprisingly deep for a “kids movie”
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They haven't been an animation studio for a long time, not surprised it was lacking. Imagine that, most known animation studio for decades, suddenly abandoning their roots and becoming known for bad writing, bad live action remakes and capitalism overkill, buying every IP known to man and ruining them all whilst still making bank.
Every company, if they last long enough, gets bought out by money hungry suits eventually. It’s bound to happen.
Penguinz0 says a whole lot of nothing. Boring. My animations are vastly superior.
The bigger they are, the harder they fall
@@IAmAQueenCryAbtIt Bro, Yandere Dev's work is better than yours. How did you manage to be worse than that
@@OkamiLyra Pretty sure it's a troll bot.
So the bad guy (Disney allegory) was defeated by all the working class banding together (unionizing) and wishing so hard (pro union lobbying) that their wishes were fulfilled and the bad guy was beaten? Huh, interesting.
I work at Macy's, where we have a Toys r Us department, and we're chock full of the toys and honestly I thought it was just a toy line not a movie. I've literally put the toys on the shelves, packed them for shipment to customers, and thought this.
That's how little publicity this movie has gotten.
Penguinz0 says a whole lot of nothing. Boring. My animations are vastly superior.
Did it sell well?
The toys are the publicity
@@joukeschat2486 Unlikely
The reason they made it was to lose money because making a traditional animation movie is harder to make, so if they release a bad few or put them up against movies that will make it bomb, they can say “people obviously don’t want this” to the shareholders. They did this with Princess and the Frog by releasing it against Avatar. They’ve done this all the way back to Tarzan, despite them developing software that they’ve leased out to other companies that will animate backgrounds for them on scenes
Sounds like a stretch, but it is very possible
Still not too logical for a 100th anniversary film. Shareholders would expect more.
Where does this information come from?
@@jamesp1389"Trust me bro."
@@0megaWarrior You can really easily see a pattern of releasing traditionally animated movies that are either not marketed at all, like this one, or released against a movie that will dominate the box office, like Avatar. Traditional animation costs more money to make a feature length movie
I've yet to fully understand the plot. A girl finds a star and it does something. Then there's a bad guy who wants it. There's a talking goat too. That's it lol.
A king protects his kingdom. A random star thing overthrows him for no reason.
1. King is a somewhat good guy, everyone is ok-ish.
2. Suddenly king is a psychopath, turns evil, and everyone defeats him.
🤦♂️what a weird movie
Don't forget that the main character literally looks a lot like Isabela from Encanto
@arf3433 Ya the characters hardly have any development whatsoever and nothing is really explained. They're all boring and meaningless. Magnifico just suddenly turns evil and we don't know why. There's no background story that tries to justify his views and actions. It's like a bunch of 5 year olds came up with this story.
@@johnpurdy3336 or like people came up with plot ideas. Then the head execs were like nope to every idea and cuts off brain storming for everything that was missing. Then just decided it'll make money and went with it.
0:40 sorry what?
“It’s made for children” is such a cop out for justifying a bad movie
Wish is even worse when you realize the film was supposed to be a homage of 100 years of Disney , yet it failed to capture the good of Disney back in the day.
It would have been a perfect excuse for them to go back to a traditional animation style even if it were computer aided like every other cartoon nowadays, and not just a bunch of nods to previous movies.
From what I've seen on Twitter, this movie would've actually been more interesting if they didn't scrap their original idea they had for it. And this original idea felt a lot more classic Disney-like. It's really too bad what Disney's become...I've even noticed since 2018 or 2019 that they haven't been advertising their newer movies like crazy anymore except for their Frozen sequels. There would be these Disney movies I'd see pop up on social media and I'd be like, "They made a new movie? Since when?"
And a decade ago, a new Disney movie was the talk of the town.
ikr, I saw that post and it was SUCH a fun concept and they even had first truly evil Disney couple as villains? I wonder why Disney even has character design department if they ignore anything they say 💀
8:25 The only thing that's allowed to sing to defeat the "bad guy" is Adventure Time... And even there it actually makes sense why that defeats it
Sounds like Disney's first attempt at an AI generated film... makes sense after the writing guild strikes
One element I wish the film fleshed out more was the city of Rosas itself. During the opening musical number, the city is propped up as this all inclusive melting pot. People from all over the world come to Rosas, so why doesn't the city and its people reflect that? The city could sport architecture, fashion, and culture from a myriad of different countries and creeds. Instead, it just kinda feels like a stock medieval city. Like some place you'd see in The Dragon Prince.
Because Disney only believes in lip-service. They're not going to put in actual effort to showcase what they claim to support.
It's pretty amazing how Disney is just floundering one project after another across so many franchises. It really just goes to show that it's not necessarily burn out or a franchise getting stale, if anything, there's a Disney fatigue lol
disney stopped caring. every project is now just a cash grab. and as people have begun to realize that, theyve stopped offering cash to grab.
hire a bunch of no names for cheap, rehash some old stories to save on writing time, crop in some 'approved messaging' to appease twitter, crop in some nostalgia to bait your dwindling loyal fans, cut a few corners with ai, then crap it all out and whine how everyone asking for some good entertainment is just an ist-a-phobe.
rinse
repeat next year
Disney is working as hard as possible to become the Blizzard of movies and I love to hate it. Remember Disney, this all began with your copyright trolling. The path you took to this point naturally followed that. If this is how they mark their 100th anniversary, then we're going to see the fall off of a century this coming decade.
It's funny how Once Upon A Studio showed more of Disney's creative side for the 100 year anniversary, then the actual theatrical production.
4:40 when you explained it that way about the movie being an allegory for Disney making pieces of crap content instead of listening and granting the 'wishes' i.e the hopes and dreams of their fans, that was the funniest thing I have heard this morning 🤣
I don't know how they even end up taking the biggest risks while pretending like they don't like taking risks. It's insanity, doing something over and over expecting a different result, and it's not gonna happen.
Disney have no plans on stopping either. Look at the production chaos of Captain America 4 and Blade.
exactly like how is "lets make a black-girl-power sequel to a movie no one liked with 3 female leads 2 of whom nobody knows played by actors nobody's heard of and a female villain nobody's heard of played by an actor nobody's heard of" considered low-risk and safe? they could have literally set $150 million on fire and lost less money.
I watched it and its like every disney trope/stereotype ever put into one movie.
1. Quirky female protagonist
2. Cute animal companion
3. Talking singing animals
4. “NEVER GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAMS”
5. Edgy and serious friend that helps the main character
6. Character that is seen as saviour and reveals to be evil
7. Friendship and love saves the day for no reason to easily end the movie
Disney is a lawfirm that occasionally makes movies. They'll turn a profit from the merchandise, and copyright, no doubt about it.
That doesn't even sound like a villain. If he wanted he could just keep his magic to himself, but he chooses to at least grant some wishes here and there.
He's not going around rising zombies to conquer the world or something, or at least that's what I understood from this video.
No but he’s not using his power to fight for anything so that means he’s automatically “eViL”!!!!!!
I think everyone was expecting a lot coming from Disney, considering it would be the 100th anniversary for Disney. Having someone who had no experience in musical theatre and write about pop, hired as a composer, is stupid.
No a lot of us were expecting exactly this.
Actually a great 100th anniversary when you think about it. Shows everyone just how far they've fallen.
They literally kicked out all the experienced creatives, and hired inexperienced activists.. Explains it all, 'Evil cannot create, only destroy'..
I honestly felt the final act was great... Until Asha started singing and that's how the villain got defeated. That was so bad the entire theater started laughing
Lol
Wish feels like what could happen if AI really does take over writers
Funny or sadly enough, there is now a theory going around that the songs or at lest half of em were written by the AI, thus they are so lame and boring af. But nah, the truth is more mundane: Disney hired song writers who have ZERO experience/knowledge in the theatrical music writing, but they only did some gigs for commercials and generic ass pop songs💀
“It’s children’s media, it’s not supposed to be enjoyable to adults”
*Bluey stares from the corner*
With all these new original Disney films flopping it won’t even surprise me if they go back to all the sequels with Frozen, Cars, Toy Story, and more Inside Out films.
Well, they just recently announced Frozen 3 AND a goshdarn Frozen 4! And the Toy Story 5 a few months back soooo they are already half way there🙃
@@irinaromanova5959 What about inside out sequel?
@@Guy336-gh3qtI hope if they make a sequel to that then the Sad emotion commits suicide and we get to see how the main character falls into numbness lol. It would be relatable to all the disney fans who are now dead inside
@@doid4354holy shit I’m dead😂
@@Guy336-gh3qt yeah that one as well, kinda forgot about it already😵💫
The hate is being blown out of proportion because of the context, Disney's 100th anniversary. Had this been released a year earlier or later... It would still be forgettable but no one would care
It feels like they released Wish just to have something out for Thanksgiving.
Is the villain even really a villain in this movie? His motivation from the trailer doesn’t even seem that bad.
I feel like, on some level, Disney kinda knows it can’t make decent films anymore. The pure fact that they announced not long ago that they were dumping more resources into their theme parks spoke volumes to me.
8:34 it was the day Horton heard a Who
In unamed retail place I work at in the mall, we received 3 or 4 shipments of Wish merchandise BEFORE Haloween for our Black Friday Sales... none of them are selling. We haven't sold a single product. And nobody really knew what the movie was about when we received the products
Feels like a Disney movie ordered on Wish
The idea of connecting the Disney animated films together (or at least hinting at this) through the 100tg anniversary film is actually kind of a novel idea but they went the most boring and safe way of doing this by just going “this character is actually this character, and so is this one” it’s just rlly lazy and squanders an idea that could’ve been rlly cool and profound
The best thing they could have done for 100 years of making movies would have been to release a new 2D animated movie. They have a group working on hand-drawn 2D animation again, they COULD do it- they just don't.
exactly!! That would have been perfect
Friendly reminder that Netflix's Klaus cost a quarter of the budget of the live action Aladdin remake
Some people say it’s because of Disney not wanting to hire unionized animators.
It’s probably also because disney saw how popular and praised both spiderverse movies art styles are (2D elements drawn onto 3d models to look more 2 dimensionally) and wanted to do something like it. But failing because people want 2D movies again from Disney and the common critique of wish is that the animation looks unfinished
You can blame the critical and commercial failure of Home on the Range for that, and Winnie the Pooh's poor commercial performance didn't help either.
7:40 ad played at the perfect time to troll me 😂
Its not just Disney movies either , it’s everything now a days . And I know it takes longer and more money. But dang I miss movies that used actual hand drawings for the show , and not completely A.I computer graphics . That goes for both animation and live action. I miss when live action movies used real puppets and special effects makeup and real material made set ups . I can’t explain it. It’s like old movies ( before early mid 2000 or whenever computer graphic’s completely took over ) movies and cartoons had this cozy and lively feel to it, and maybe that’s the nostalgic 90s kid in me , but for real , even crappy b movies back in the 90s or before had this actual soulful feeling to it that was definitely made by a human and you knew it. Does anyone else understand what I’m saying ? Maybe it’s just me and I’m weird…
0:50 now now, my local grocery store had stickers on the bananas advertising the movie.
Disney chose to do quantity over quality and it shows. Elementals, haunted mansion, and wish all looked very generic and uninteresting. Disney needs to take a step back, make less stuff, and focus on good stories to produce. At least that's my opinion.
Elemental made its money back though lol
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Barely and for what Pixar used to bring in, it's not a good sign
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 That's true. All hail Clod!
0:24 He doesn't remember Stange world came out in 2022. so lets keep it that way
The villain was defeated by a chant while being a god😂
Is a Disney product not being good a surprise at this point? The company has been abysmal since Avengers Infinity War. They have had the occasional decent movie but overall it's been painful. They have done the impossible though, ruined Star Wars, Marvel and Indiana Jones... very impressive. I just don't pay attention to Disney anymore.
I thought you said The Incredibles was 29 years old and I had an existential crisis.
Then I remembered, you're 29 and was referring to yourself. Had a sigh of relief... until I remembered that the Incredibles released in 2004, and that's still NINETEEN years ago.
This guy is the MVP of UA-cam. True inspiration
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@@emanuele9238I am! And I agree. Charlie is compelling, intelligent, entertaining, articulate- I could go on. I know I am much older than his target audience, but like any good creator, enjoyable and appreciated by all ages and demographics 😂
@@yesterdayitraineddoing tricks on it
Actual NPC comment. 😐
1:40 these kinds of ppl are ridiculous because Disney films are literally engineered to be for everybody that’s literally their brand
Honestly appreciate the balanced take. I haven’t seen it myself yet but I willingly admit that when it comes to Disney or any other animated musicals, I’m often rather easy to please. Even if I’m not impressed or dazzled, it doesn’t take much to move me emotionally, and having that more subjective, emotion-based perspective often leaves me baffled at how critical or dismissive some people are about stuff I find myself enjoying, even if I can admit its shortcomings. But being able to just say ‘Meh, but I see why people don’t like it’? That’s surprisingly tame by internet review standards lol 😂
Disney is failing at every turn, and it's awesome
Penguinz0 says a whole lot of nothing. Boring. My animations are vastly superior.
It’s really funny how the southpark panderverse episode really got under their skin.
People have high expectations for Disney, and it's sad that they've become THIS
It should have been more like Fantasy Island where people come to the kingdom to get their wishes granted but there's a price they must pay which leads to self discovery and personal growth. Also, Tattoo could be a talking dog with a French accent or something like that.
6:38 funny you should mention AI, because tons of people have speculated that this movie was made with AI. As someone who wants to compose music for a living, that's terrifying to me
Charlie you probably won’t see this but I wanted to say thank you. My life has been changing a lot recently and I’ve been pretty depressed and some other stuff that I really don’t need to go into but you’re always a constant. Your goofy videos and your personality have helped me through so many hard times just because I know when you post I get a break from my day and just get to laugh along with you and smile. Thank you so much for being who you are and posting as often as you do. You’re my favorite person that I don’t know 😂
Quick edit. I’m not in an uncommon situation many people feel the same way I do about various content creators it’s not a matter of wanting attention or copy and paste it’s just when you have an audience of millions it’s typical in my opinion to have people that say things along the lines of what I said here. It doesn’t make it any less genuine or at least that’s what I think
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no hate towards you but i feel like i see an exact replica of this comment on every video ever.
Nice copy and paste, very creative
@@9_1.1 yeah man...he has just over 14 mil subs.. who all enjoy his content. ? odd comment really
Isn't it just the last episode of Adventure time 8:45
I would love to see Charlie and Jeremy do a review together sometime. It would be like John Wick meeting John Wick for the first time.
So the main villain is basically defeated by the power of friendship