Thanks Harris === you are more than right I bet about that. Everything revolves around the money thing..... At 81 I get my wages from the government but they are a bit mean!
Im in this field. There is a substrate out there that has been patented in the US and other countries that has proved successful. Randy is well versed with them. They are designed to go between the frames just as normal strips do. One reason Shop towels and similar devices fail is that they are not placed in the broodnest . They are on the top bars. In the case of a double broodnest the shop towel is more effective because it is sometimes in the center of the brood nest. Any shop towel that is placed in a single brood nest hive and is in a damp climate will grab moisture and slow a marginal hive down. Probably the best device for carrying OA/GL is the Marco tape laminate. This device is a multi layer paper laminate that is connected with multiple rows of thread stitch. The rows of stitch present a barrier to the Bees attempts to remove the paper from the Hive. This device when put through the US patent system was one of the fastest patents in US history to go from filing to Acceptance for granting. 7 weeks then a further 4 weeks for granting. Note. The word "Marco" is only used as a descriptive term that describes the type of paper used and is not used as any sort of branding term. The device is made using a Marco company paper Drywall jointing tape.
Thanks so much for this information. I will check into it. I found the shop towels didn't hold much liquid, and dried out. The water absorbent pads work if there is room for the bees to walk on the top of them. If the lid fit down tight they didn't seem to work
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 Dear Harris thank you for you time in replying to my comments....... Latest I just gotta broadcast it from 50 odd per day drop in a month down to 3 today. This strip method I see has been around a bit? You are very experienced beekeeper and must have an enquiring mind as well as perception regarding knowing what's best for your bees. Incidentally but quite important is the fact that after 3 weeks I replaced the strips with three new ones and the low count still happened. I would think that this proves that if the 'old' strips had depleted when the fresh ones were inserted the mite count would have got UP....... I have the luxury of being able to count the drop each day. I'll keep a close watch in the coming days....... One thing is noticeable as opposed to last year= there is an explosion of worker brood and as Randy says the successful hives treated with the strips, have been his strongest ! Than you so much for advising what you find. Excellent.
Thanks for the reply and your experiences which are a great help and give us confidence. The mixture 1 to 1 is potent. It burnt a hole on the wifes 'Marigold' washing up gloves. Probably rubber? I will pick them up with stainless forceps in future. What is surprising is that a lot of you experienced beekeeper say it doesn't hurt the bees. That is amazing and surprising to me. Are bees feet immune to acid? The quite modern RNAi idea is taking too long to be publicised used in a trial by Barry Hart who seems to be a very big professional who is all over the states. Finding out all there is to know about the new ideas is like the secret service and especially when it is so serious a subject like eradicating varroa mite.... I mean who needs those damn things which seem as bad as anthrax was way back.
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 I've handled all sorts of acids in my life & remember an outboard didn't last long in a weak acid! Aluminium..... The bees outer body must be tough. Good job the varroa are not so tough. The count is starting to go down and the Buckfast bee numbers are going up! Ain't it nice when something goes right? Incidentally, when I bought the bees there was no mention of mites. The mention of them might have prevented a sale? VSH bees and Buckfast too (supposedly) are said here in the UK to have been imported from Germany by a professional beekeeper & yet the direct message is that the EU will not export bees to the UK due to the strict/ hassle re the customs. I don't think the Weaver queens cost £220 apiece?
Thanks for the informative vid. Just as a matter of interest my wife bought some fibre cloths made in Holland called Multy. They are thin but stiff enough to thread down the frames! They are 2mm gauge and about 16 x 12". I cut mine into 2-1/2 inch x 9-1/2 strips. I notes that after 2 fumigations of OA the mite drop was 20 a day for a week. After one day the mite drop after putting the strips in it was 120. day by day it reduced to 18 a day! I feel this method is more efficient than the 4 gram fumigation. I only found out cuz I watch Randy Oliver who said this method seems very promising and seems to work well when the strip is between the frames? I do not know here in the UK if this method is legal? If it's not then why is spraying /drizzling oxalic acid onto the bees legal? This is how it is. My pal who said these folks in the States are about ten years in front of us lot in the UK and that was a great many years ago. He emigrated to the USA about 40 years ago but his uncle had been there 20 years before him..... He was a brilliant motor engineer. We were ton up kids together way back.
I had great luck with them laying on the frames, if there were frames above them. on a single deep they didnt work as well on top. I will be putting them at the entrance this year, if the rain ever stops, to see what that dose. kind of like a door mat
Have you notified Randy Oliver about your use of the mats over the sponges? Seems like a significant quality of life upgrade worthy of his attention. :)
Hello Harris, I am a cheap skate, I found out what the chemical for the synthetic varroa strips was and simply bought the active ingredients bulk from farming stores, some mathematics and bits and pieces and made my own strips. Tau fluvinate > Mavrik, flumethrin > Bayticol and animal tickacide > amitraz. I know Thanks for sharing you work with OA strips, from what I understand formic acid is way worse to use and can kill not only varroa but queens What is the go with this Lactic acid ??
I have not looked into lactic acid at all. most of the harsh chemical treatments will kill, or run some bees off. thats one reason I am trying to get away from them. but number one, you have to control Varroa
Lactic is for keeping the numbers down. Over the spring grow of the hive l use a spray bottle wich sprays very fine (an atomizer). When l inspect the frames l spray not more than 4-5 mils per side with bees and brood on it. It's not a real treatment but does a better job than sublimation every 15 days (how l use the spray bottle) all spring. Since l started with lactic l never had a big varroa drop on the summer treatment after the brood break. So in other words there is never a big number of varroa in my hives. Just don't drown the bees in it.. use it on inspections on the frames you have in hand.. keep the bottle with you and use as you can. I don't know how to explain it better.. It's not a treatment program
@@TheSteveblabla you need plastic bags ( zip lock bag thickness ) thin wood or plastic strips ( like doctors tongue depressors ) also one of those plastic bag heat sealing machines. make a bag about 200 x 25 mm with the wood strip in the bag, so it is easier to slip bag down between frames 2 x bags / box. last time I used Tau fluvinate > Mavrik, was 1/4 ml, I am going to up that to 1/2 + ml, the flumethrin is 1 ml amatraz I can not get here, but start I would at about 1/3 ml
I'm saying same as Randy Oliver = what the heck is happening, the mite count is going up? Are the bees increasing the percentage the more they are rubbing against the strips...... Incidentally saw a few bees walking around right on the top box strip! Usual drop 20 average per day for 5 days now 44 then 45 ! It seems obvious it's definitely more efficient than 2 fumigations of OA. I'm hoping the count will decrease sometime but when....... do you know that? Thanks Sincerely for you work and videos....... I'm so grateful.
these strips take time to reduce mites. Randy didnt see numbers going down for 45 days. if you have a bad infestation you need to treat with something else. I want to try some at the entrance this year. some of the studys back east are not getting as good a result as Randy did.
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 Hiya Harris.... I must say these bees are doin really well I mean really. The colony is totally different from last season. The second colony has well over a thousand mites killed on them. I can see that small colony is picking up now though. I got 40 lbs of loverly honey off the first hive and I think it's almost full again & not two weeks. I am over the moon with those strips they are just brilliant and not so much hassle as the vape. I'm not going to alter the tactics in November either but will give them a break August. Is I see any mites drop whatsoever on the tray I'll hit the varmints again with a couple of strips dangled down in the brood frames after the 2 months break. I cannot see for the life of me fuming again when I've seen more efficient results than those fumes.
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 can you share the link for the exact mat you bought? I found a roll and box of it. How was the pricing when you ordered?
how much oa and the gly should be used for these strips i have found all kinds of recipes on the web think 1 was 500grm of oa 500 ml gly Thanks for the video u did good I can not find your video where u made the acid. Thanks have a great day
@@djg585 Randy Oliver I think in his 'paper' says that he has experimented with between 25 to 50 gram per hive. I think he now has about 8 different absorbent materials. I am surprised how soon the strips lose their wetness. I've noticed there seems to be a bit of fluid on the plastic catch sheet for whatever reason? The bees certainly chew some of the strips ! Are these I ask myself the 'kamikaze' bees? I find it most satisfying killing these parasites.
@@michaelhall7921 These OA release strips are very promising, and hopefully will get even better when we learn more about which carriers are most effective for different climates and seasons of the year. A lot more research would be helpful, perhaps.
@@djg585 Thank you so much for the reply....... The horrible situation re Varroa needs the most meticulous attention to detail. I feel it is often the case that there is a lot of dithering among the hierarchy when it come to legislation. Us lot on the ground as well as the very astute researchers who we are very indebted to are to be applauded with a fanfare of trumpets for the excellent work they do. I hope the researchers realise that through You Tube which seems invaluable in the quest to do what is the very best for bees and in no uncertain terms continues to bring forth success and eventually by the hands on proactive approach, eradicates all nasty parasites for ever more.
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 I cannot see for the life of me why the vapourisation does not work as well as seen by the strips of the 1 to 1. A test I did showed 80 mites dropped after three days but 300 dropped from the same hive after 1 day...... That made me feel good re the strips so I've kept killin them mites since. It sure does work a treat ya'lll..... I bet I spelt that wrong sorry Harris. I'm keen to know how you are doin with them mites. Strange I though that lady Dr in Georgia says it don't work? Something to do with the humidity???? I though bees were very good at regulating the humidity in their environment whatever the humidity was? then there's the fact that they fetch water to make it more humid if they feel that's what they want. Strange how some say they've killed all the mites and some say the mites like drinkin the acid & still do press ups? All the mites I've seen here in the UK after the strips go in are dead uns but it does take time as you said Harris. Ye ha !!!!
Does that retain enough liquid over time? And how is it for removal and replacement when you're doing inspections, does it start to break up and fall apart?
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 I did inspection yesterday, 2 weeks after installing. I just lifted the frame with the strip. All was good and I intend to keep it for another 2 weeks.
I based all on ua-cam.com/video/R2v9woKixwo/v-deo.html video. His solution is 1L of vegetable glycerine, 600 gram of OXA and temp no higher then 60C when mixing. He does it for 4 years now.
Haha. I was about to asch Harris how good those sponges are. From what l see so far the treatment is great if the numbers are low from the start.. or now, after the brood break treatment.. works great to not get re infested with my neighbors varroa
@@researcherAmateur I like it too Im going to try this next year, I absolutely hate vaporizer,that crap kills me,I get it on forehead,headstrap on mask..it never fails I breathe a pile of it by time I'm done,heart racing like crazy... surprised I don't have kidney stones I've inhaled a pile of that crap I hate it
@@badassbees3680 I told you.. we are all lazy to use it. Lactic in a spray bottle is the only solucion. I buy 1L of 80% lactic acid and mix it with 5,2L of water. And use all spring and start of summer. Because is easy to use at the seme time when i work with bees.. It's there with me, ready. If you can find it on internet.. The Austrians and the Switss did the experiments.
@@researcherAmateur I've read about it for about 5 years ,ever since OA got popular...I'm going to definitely try it , I definitely believe you...I hate oa vaporization... Even fast is slow, even a nice mask I get it all over me,I shower soon as I come in...
I've used the cardboard material for the strips and my Varoa count had consistently been 0 to 1. The one negative that I have noticed is that for about 3 weeks after I place the strips in, my bees become extremely hostile and will sting me every chance they get.
They've been on since June. Randy Oliver found the best results at 90 days. I'm not sure why they would need to be removed as long as they still had juice in them
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 The strips are killin plenty in the new colony..... killed 300 in one go after the first day. Erratic as of now with some days 20 odd then 57 today.... The findings are very similar to the first hive which has 4 today...... put a new strip in yesterday. This gives the beekeeper a lot of confidence in the strips...... The cheapest seems to bee the Multi fibre cloths from Home Bargains in the UK 3 at 300 x 400mm and are 2mm thick. of course 2 can be placed together & I notice they stick very well together with the 1 to 1 Ox and Gly. Bets wishes and good hunting -Harris !
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Thank you very much for sharing this
You're very welcome. This will be a great product if we can get consistent mite control
Thanks Harris === you are more than right I bet about that. Everything revolves around the money thing..... At 81 I get my wages from the government but they are a bit mean!
Im in this field.
There is a substrate out there that has been patented in the US and other countries that has proved successful.
Randy is well versed with them.
They are designed to go between the frames just as normal strips do.
One reason Shop towels and similar devices fail is that they are not placed in the broodnest .
They are on the top bars.
In the case of a double broodnest the shop towel is more effective because it is sometimes in the center of the brood nest.
Any shop towel that is placed in a single brood nest hive and is in a damp climate will grab moisture and slow a marginal hive down.
Probably the best device for carrying OA/GL is the Marco tape laminate.
This device is a multi layer paper laminate that is connected with multiple rows of thread stitch.
The rows of stitch present a barrier to the Bees attempts to remove the paper from the Hive.
This device when put through the US patent system was one of the fastest patents in US history to go from filing to Acceptance for granting.
7 weeks then a further 4 weeks for granting.
Note. The word "Marco" is only used as a descriptive term that describes the type of paper used and is not used as any sort of branding term.
The device is made using a Marco company paper Drywall jointing tape.
Thanks so much for this information. I will check into it. I found the shop towels didn't hold much liquid, and dried out. The water absorbent pads work if there is room for the bees to walk on the top of them. If the lid fit down tight they didn't seem to work
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 Dear Harris thank you for you time in replying to my comments....... Latest I just gotta broadcast it from 50 odd per day drop in a month down to 3 today. This strip method I see has been around a bit? You are very experienced beekeeper and must have an enquiring mind as well as perception regarding knowing what's best for your bees.
Incidentally but quite important is the fact that after 3 weeks I replaced the strips with three new ones and the low count still happened. I would think that this proves that if the 'old' strips had depleted when the fresh ones were inserted the mite count would have got UP....... I have the luxury of being able to count the drop each day.
I'll keep a close watch in the coming days....... One thing is noticeable as opposed to last year= there is an explosion of worker brood and as Randy says the successful hives treated with the strips, have been his strongest ! Than you so much for advising what you find. Excellent.
Thanks for the reply and your experiences which are a great help and give us confidence.
The mixture 1 to 1 is potent. It burnt a hole on the wifes 'Marigold' washing up gloves. Probably rubber? I will pick them up with stainless forceps in future. What is surprising is that a lot of you experienced beekeeper say it doesn't hurt the bees. That is amazing and surprising to me. Are bees feet immune to acid?
The quite modern RNAi idea is taking too long to be publicised used in a trial by Barry Hart who seems to be a very big professional who is all over the states.
Finding out all there is to know about the new ideas is like the secret service and especially when it is so serious a subject like eradicating varroa mite.... I mean who needs those damn things which seem as bad as anthrax was way back.
keep some baking soda and water to wash up with. bees have an exoskeleton, probably protects them. lots of money in Varroa treatment
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 I've handled all sorts of acids in my life & remember an outboard didn't last long in a weak acid! Aluminium..... The bees outer body must be tough.
Good job the varroa are not so tough. The count is starting to go down and the Buckfast bee numbers are going up! Ain't it nice when something goes right?
Incidentally, when I bought the bees there was no mention of mites. The mention of them might have prevented a sale?
VSH bees and Buckfast too (supposedly) are said here in the UK to have been imported from Germany by a professional beekeeper & yet the direct message is that the EU will not export bees to the UK due to the strict/ hassle re the customs.
I don't think the Weaver queens cost £220 apiece?
Thanks for the informative vid. Just as a matter of interest my wife bought some fibre cloths made in Holland called Multy. They are thin but stiff enough to thread down the frames! They are 2mm gauge and about
16 x 12". I cut mine into 2-1/2 inch x 9-1/2 strips. I notes that after 2 fumigations of OA the mite drop was 20 a day for a week. After one day the mite drop after putting the strips in it was 120. day by day it reduced to 18 a day! I feel this method is more efficient than the 4 gram fumigation.
I only found out cuz I watch Randy Oliver who said this method seems very promising and seems to work well when the strip is between the frames?
I do not know here in the UK if this method is legal? If it's not then why is spraying /drizzling oxalic acid onto the bees legal? This is how it is. My pal who said these folks in the States are about ten years in front of us lot
in the UK and that was a great many years ago.
He emigrated to the USA about 40 years ago but his uncle had been there 20 years before him.....
He was a brilliant motor engineer. We were ton up kids together way back.
I had great luck with them laying on the frames, if there were frames above them. on a single deep they didnt work as well on top. I will be putting them at the entrance this year, if the rain ever stops, to see what that dose. kind of like a door mat
Have you notified Randy Oliver about your use of the mats over the sponges? Seems like a significant quality of life upgrade worthy of his attention. :)
I have not told Randy. I probably should
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 I agree you should Harris, these pads are not something he would think of and I'd say they work great.
So any chance that those of us with only a few hives and close enough to you can possibly buy a few of these from you?
you bet
Good stuff !
Thanks!
Hello Harris, I am a cheap skate, I found out what the chemical for the synthetic varroa strips was and simply bought the active ingredients bulk from farming stores, some mathematics and bits and pieces and made my own strips. Tau fluvinate > Mavrik, flumethrin > Bayticol and animal tickacide > amitraz. I know
Thanks for sharing you work with OA strips, from what I understand formic acid is way worse to use and can kill not only varroa but queens
What is the go with this Lactic acid ??
I have not looked into lactic acid at all. most of the harsh chemical treatments will kill, or run some bees off. thats one reason I am trying to get away from them. but number one, you have to control Varroa
Lactic is for keeping the numbers down. Over the spring grow of the hive l use a spray bottle wich sprays very fine (an atomizer). When l inspect the frames l spray not more than 4-5 mils per side with bees and brood on it. It's not a real treatment but does a better job than sublimation every 15 days (how l use the spray bottle) all spring. Since l started with lactic l never had a big varroa drop on the summer treatment after the brood break. So in other words there is never a big number of varroa in my hives. Just don't drown the bees in it.. use it on inspections on the frames you have in hand.. keep the bottle with you and use as you can. I don't know how to explain it better.. It's not a treatment program
That’s really interesting. How did you make the strips and how much did you add of each of the ingredients?
@@TheSteveblabla you need plastic bags ( zip lock bag thickness ) thin wood or plastic strips ( like doctors tongue depressors ) also one of those plastic bag heat sealing machines. make a bag about 200 x 25 mm with the wood strip in the bag, so it is easier to slip bag down between frames 2 x bags / box. last time I used Tau fluvinate > Mavrik, was 1/4 ml, I am going to up that to 1/2 + ml, the flumethrin is 1 ml amatraz I can not get here, but start I would at about 1/3 ml
I’m interested to see how long you left them on as well.
They have been on since June.
Do you use any amitraz? Or exclusively oxalic?
I have used Amitraz, it killed bees. all I used this year is OA, and my test of 11 colonies found 7 mites
I'm saying same as Randy Oliver = what the heck is happening, the mite count is going up?
Are the bees increasing the percentage the more they are rubbing against the strips......
Incidentally saw a few bees walking around right on the top box strip!
Usual drop 20 average per day for 5 days now 44 then 45 !
It seems obvious it's definitely more efficient than 2 fumigations of OA.
I'm hoping the count will decrease sometime but when....... do you know that? Thanks Sincerely for you work and videos....... I'm so grateful.
these strips take time to reduce mites. Randy didnt see numbers going down for 45 days. if you have a bad infestation you need to treat with something else. I want to try some at the entrance this year. some of the studys back east are not getting as good a result as Randy did.
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 Hiya Harris.... I must say these bees are doin really well I mean really. The colony is totally different from last season. The second colony has well over a thousand mites killed on them.
I can see that small colony is picking up now though. I got 40 lbs of loverly honey off the first hive and I think it's almost full again & not two weeks.
I am over the moon with those strips they are just brilliant and not so much hassle as the vape.
I'm not going to alter the tactics in November either but will give them a break August.
Is I see any mites drop whatsoever on the tray I'll hit the varmints again with a couple of strips dangled down in the brood frames after the 2 months break. I cannot see for the life of me fuming again when I've seen more efficient results than those fumes.
Has anyone tried using "pantie liners"? These are like kotex pads but not as big and will hold a lot.
not that I know of. they might get pricey on a large scale
What brand of Matt did you use?? Want to give thos a try on all of our colonies
Newpig.com water absorbent mat.
Thanks so much
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 can you share the link for the exact mat you bought? I found a roll and box of it. How was the pricing when you ordered?
@@TripleJFarmsTX I got the large box, but you can get them in what ever form works for you. I think their water mats are made the same
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924
I bought some pig mat, but mine was white, not black, I don't know why.
how much oa and the gly should be used for these strips i have found all kinds of recipes on the web think 1 was 500grm of oa 500 ml gly Thanks for the video u did good I can not find your video where u made the acid. Thanks have a great day
ua-cam.com/video/cDHhNxeSBQo/v-deo.html that is what I did, equal amounts
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924
Me too, but I'm still not sure how much total oxalic acid is the proper dose for a hive.
@@djg585 Randy Oliver I think in his 'paper' says that he has experimented with between 25 to 50 gram per hive. I think he now has about 8 different absorbent materials.
I am surprised how soon the strips lose their wetness.
I've noticed there seems to be a bit of fluid on the plastic catch sheet for whatever reason?
The bees certainly chew some of the strips ! Are these I ask myself the 'kamikaze' bees?
I find it most satisfying killing these parasites.
@@michaelhall7921
These OA release strips are very promising, and hopefully will get even better when we learn more about which carriers are most effective for different climates and seasons of the year. A lot more research would be helpful, perhaps.
@@djg585 Thank you so much for the reply....... The horrible situation re Varroa needs the most meticulous attention to detail. I feel it is often the case that there is a lot of dithering among the hierarchy when it come to legislation.
Us lot on the ground as well as the very astute researchers who we are very indebted to are to be applauded with a fanfare of trumpets for the excellent work they do.
I hope the researchers realise that through You Tube which seems invaluable in the quest to do what is the very best for bees and in no uncertain terms continues to bring forth success and eventually by the hands on proactive approach, eradicates all nasty parasites for ever more.
So, similar to the drizzle method with the oxalic gel mix, but more of an over time. Did you get or have one of those vaporizers?
not yet
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 I cannot see for the life of me why the vapourisation does not work as well as seen by the strips of the 1 to 1.
A test I did showed 80 mites dropped after three days but 300 dropped from the same hive after 1 day...... That made me feel good re the strips so I've kept killin them mites since. It sure does work a treat ya'lll..... I bet I spelt that wrong sorry Harris. I'm keen to know how you are doin with them mites.
Strange I though that lady Dr in Georgia says it don't work? Something to do with the humidity???? I though bees were very good at regulating the humidity in their
environment whatever the humidity was? then there's the fact that they fetch water to make it more humid if they feel that's what they want.
Strange how some say they've killed all the mites and some say the mites like drinkin the acid & still do press ups?
All the mites I've seen here in the UK after the strips go in are dead uns but it does take time as you said Harris. Ye ha !!!!
4.5k !! Sweet
did you get much snow
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 bout 5 inches
A cardboard 48in x 32in at hobby supply store is less than $5. I cut it into 1in x 16in strips and soak in glicerine/OXA solution....
Does that retain enough liquid over time? And how is it for removal and replacement when you're doing inspections, does it start to break up and fall apart?
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 I did inspection yesterday, 2 weeks after installing. I just lifted the frame with the strip. All was good and I intend to keep it for another 2 weeks.
I based all on ua-cam.com/video/R2v9woKixwo/v-deo.html video. His solution is 1L of vegetable glycerine, 600 gram of OXA and temp no higher then 60C when mixing. He does it for 4 years now.
Good thing I don't have to worry about ever being a smartass !!!
LOL
Haha. I was about to asch Harris how good those sponges are. From what l see so far the treatment is great if the numbers are low from the start.. or now, after the brood break treatment.. works great to not get re infested with my neighbors varroa
@@researcherAmateur I like it too Im going to try this next year, I absolutely hate vaporizer,that crap kills me,I get it on forehead,headstrap on mask..it never fails I breathe a pile of it by time I'm done,heart racing like crazy... surprised I don't have kidney stones I've inhaled a pile of that crap I hate it
@@badassbees3680 I told you.. we are all lazy to use it. Lactic in a spray bottle is the only solucion.
I buy 1L of 80% lactic acid and mix it with 5,2L of water. And use all spring and start of summer. Because is easy to use at the seme time when i work with bees.. It's there with me, ready.
If you can find it on internet.. The Austrians and the Switss did the experiments.
@@researcherAmateur I've read about it for about 5 years ,ever since OA got popular...I'm going to definitely try it , I definitely believe you...I hate oa vaporization... Even fast is slow, even a nice mask I get it all over me,I shower soon as I come in...
I've used the cardboard material for the strips and my Varoa count had consistently been 0 to 1. The one negative that I have noticed is that for about 3 weeks after I place the strips in, my bees become extremely hostile and will sting me every chance they get.
funny, I see no reaction at all. but I have the strips in all the time, only replace them when they get dry
How long were the strips left on ?
They've been on since June. Randy Oliver found the best results at 90 days. I'm not sure why they would need to be removed as long as they still had juice in them
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 thanks. I placed mine july 10th
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 l agree. I can't find nothing bad about an old sponge in. This is not a 20 days treatment
@@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre1924 The strips are killin plenty in the new colony..... killed 300 in one go after the first day. Erratic as of now with some days 20 odd then 57 today.... The findings are very similar to the first hive which has 4 today...... put a new strip in yesterday. This gives the beekeeper a lot of confidence in the strips......
The cheapest seems to bee the Multi fibre cloths from Home Bargains in the UK 3 at 300 x 400mm
and are 2mm thick. of course 2 can be placed together & I notice they stick very well together with the 1 to 1 Ox and Gly. Bets wishes and good hunting -Harris !
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