This is why I really recommend PTM 7950 for laptops. Honeywell created a miracle thermal pad that cools almost as good as liquid metal with zero risk of short circuit and no staining of the copper heatsink.
I'm currently using that. While my Alienware X17 R1 now works as when I first got it, the temperatures still go to 100 celcius idk why. Maybe it's normal. However before applying PTM 7950, it would score around 11200 on cinebench 23, now with PTM it scores around 13800. Wish it would still score 13800 but reaching only 90 celcius instead of 100
@@diegovillavicencio3172 Oh that makes sense. See this has to do with boosting algorithms programmed by Dell. You are still hitting 100 degrees sporadically but now you get higher clocks and less throttling. This is good.
Yes absolutely :) i lack free time since my son is born, but i want to change the video style a bit to keep progressing. Next up is liquid cooling with the new and old APEX, featuring the 3700X and 5800X3D.
From my own experience, I cannot recommend liquid metal as a thermal paste. As the problems in the video show, the surfaces of the cooler and heat spreader corrode after a while. Once the liquid metal begins to dry out, temperatures deteriorate. Cleaning then becomes a real challenge as the liquid metal forms a firm connection with the cooler and the CPU or GPU. In order to get a good handle on the temperatures in a laptop, I recommend undervolting the CPU and GPU. This, coupled with good thermal paste, can produce the same results as liquid metal. I have e.g. For example, on my GL702ZC, the temperatures that were initially up to 90° CPU and 85° GPU were reduced to 70° CPU and 75° GPU. All this with an unlocked BIOS, VGA Bios Mod, and some work on cooling the chassis and heatsink
Can I ask why don't you use very fine metal scourers like what you use to clean dirty pots with ? I have used it in the passed and it gets rid of the pitting and makes it shine great again ;)
Liquid metal is such a PITA if even a nickel plated heat sink resulted in issues like this. I might just only do it if the manufacturer came with it (i.e. some asus laptops) and otherwise just use good paste/pads like tpm 7950...
That would be a very very hard mod. Surely possible but tough to get it running and it would not be possible to control the mux switch by software (would need to be programmed into the BIOS). It would have to be a manual hardware switch. The laptop in the video does not need a mux switch, because there is only one GPU (no integrated). All in all very very hard for a small benefit. So nothing I would want to try out.
To dissolve the residues? Tried that out for two weeks. Had no effect unfortunately. But as many people say, residues don't hurt performance. So putting fresh LM on top of the old stuff is fine.
This is why I really recommend PTM 7950 for laptops. Honeywell created a miracle thermal pad that cools almost as good as liquid metal with zero risk of short circuit and no staining of the copper heatsink.
I'm currently using that. While my Alienware X17 R1 now works as when I first got it, the temperatures still go to 100 celcius idk why. Maybe it's normal. However before applying PTM 7950, it would score around 11200 on cinebench 23, now with PTM it scores around 13800. Wish it would still score 13800 but reaching only 90 celcius instead of 100
@@diegovillavicencio3172 Oh that makes sense. See this has to do with boosting algorithms programmed by Dell. You are still hitting 100 degrees sporadically but now you get higher clocks and less throttling. This is good.
the 3d printed custom stand is amazing
nice to see another video on this channel, are you still planning on doing a liquid cooled apex 15 with ryzen 5000?
Yes absolutely :) i lack free time since my son is born, but i want to change the video style a bit to keep progressing. Next up is liquid cooling with the new and old APEX, featuring the 3700X and 5800X3D.
From my own experience, I cannot recommend liquid metal as a thermal paste. As the problems in the video show, the surfaces of the cooler and heat spreader corrode after a while. Once the liquid metal begins to dry out, temperatures deteriorate. Cleaning then becomes a real challenge as the liquid metal forms a firm connection with the cooler and the CPU or GPU. In order to get a good handle on the temperatures in a laptop, I recommend undervolting the CPU and GPU. This, coupled with good thermal paste, can produce the same results as liquid metal. I have e.g. For example, on my GL702ZC, the temperatures that were initially up to 90° CPU and 85° GPU were reduced to 70° CPU and 75° GPU. All this with an unlocked BIOS, VGA Bios Mod, and some work on cooling the chassis and heatsink
Can I ask why don't you use very fine metal scourers like what you use to clean dirty pots with ?
I have used it in the passed and it gets rid of the pitting and makes it shine great again ;)
Nice hint. Thank you! :)
Liquid metal is such a PITA if even a nickel plated heat sink resulted in issues like this. I might just only do it if the manufacturer came with it (i.e. some asus laptops) and otherwise just use good paste/pads like tpm 7950...
I've heard that using pure gallium or regular LM to re-alloy the solid metal, is the easiest way to remove it.
I wonder if a higher concentration of HCl would work better
Great work!
nice thanks for the video
Can you mod a laptop by putting a mux switch in it?
That would be a very very hard mod. Surely possible but tough to get it running and it would not be possible to control the mux switch by software (would need to be programmed into the BIOS). It would have to be a manual hardware switch. The laptop in the video does not need a mux switch, because there is only one GPU (no integrated).
All in all very very hard for a small benefit. So nothing I would want to try out.
can we use put in the boiling water ?????
can't you just reapply liquid metal on top of the old one? heard it works
To dissolve the residues? Tried that out for two weeks. Had no effect unfortunately. But as many people say, residues don't hurt performance. So putting fresh LM on top of the old stuff is fine.