I'm happy to report that the stock work is already done. And the glue up is complete this afternoon. We will start the process of welding up and rebuilding the broken barrel parts. if our round balls from track of the Wolf. Come in before next Saturday. We may very well have the video out and next sunday
That shell was a surprise. I remember in my late teens I would come across these old rifles in swapmeets and flea markets everywhere for cheap. No one wanted them. Like the Winchester 73s and 92s . Really kicking myself for not picking them up when I was younger with less demands on my money
Very cool! Your knowledge is impressive and so interesting. Your description of the repairs done in the past as well as what you have planed add so much. Thank you.
Great video. This is a period and style of firearm I know little about. I would be interested in seeing a list of the books recommended. Several years ago did a search for the makers name on one I have, Truitt, Bro. Philadelphia. I did not come up with much information. For measuring the bore diameter may I suggest picking up a set of pin gages. It is much easier to use the gages than to interpret a caliper. Groove diameter is a lot harder particularly with odd number rifle grooving. Ring gages are ideal but one must make them in the range desired. An optical comparator would be nice but is not a common tool in a home shop. I had enough trouble finding one for work twenty plus years ago.
Excellent video! I absolutely love the first tear down of a new (to me) antique rifle. So many layers of history and craftsmanship, (and the assaults of the odd 'hammer and chisel' mechanic), down through the years. I can't wait to watch y'all wade into these two beauties! If possible, please include a bore scope inspection of the rifling.
thank you yes i really need to invest in a bore scope. What I did was go down there with some scotch bright and I found that it was not very rough at all After I got the Ram rod out of it, but I did go ahead and run the scotch bright through it around a 100 times and it is slick as can be in there now.
The naming practices of those times appear to be ridiculous to us today. The continuation of a first name can be to the point of absurdity. The middle name(s) if used, can lead to associations with people, places or connections to important events outside the family tree. Something to remember when looking into the family tree ( history )
If you pay attention to the naming, in those days, it continued to connect family to family. I have found in my own tree, that many times a middle name, some times two middle names, connected the mans Son to a historical event the father survived. My own experience, more than once. My 7th ggrandfather was at the battle of fallen timbers in the kentucky mounted militia. He'd also again be involved in the war of 1812. One of his sons carried the name William Harrison as a middle name. Pay attention to names. It can reveal deep family history of powerful importance.
2 very interesting rifles you have there, really good,(lucky) you can make out the makers name, so often this is so lightly engraved that it is unreadable, I look forward to seeing how these progress. Stay safe! Chris B.
Good Sunday morning to everyone. Nice rifles 👍And just wanted to share. This old world throws us many things in life good ,bad, and uncertain times. Remember everyone Jesus Christ is the answer through it all ✝️🙏💪
Wow! Both of these rifles are fantastic! Interesting details about those sights being a little off. Being a cross dominant shooter, I wonder if that was an old school solution?
Awesome video. You seem to know a lot about these old rifels. I have just inherited a old cap lock gun it says Honaker on the barrel, but i can't find any info about it. It has a cool maple stock on it, but it's pretty well worn. Do you know where i could go to find out anything about it.
Absolutely enjoyed the video boys! Totally agree with you about the stock being replaced on the Moll rifle. Two fine specimens for sure and for certain. What are the barrel lengths by the way? Really looking forward to seeing the outcome. TC
NIce video. Can not wait to see the end work. Question: are Springfield 1884 Trapdoors collectible and can you shoot them with modern regular (non buffalo bore) 45-70 ammo?
well the 1884 is the most common of the trap doors You can shoot them with rounds like black hills. Cowboy load 4570, but bear in mind. You will not have near the power that you would have had with a full 4570 charge of black powder. Also bear in mind that the bullet for the modern 4570 will be a few thousands to small to engage the rifling correctly. the original guns need a .459 bullet to achieve real accuracy
Nice additions to the collection!!! On the Moll rifle, there appeared to be a couple of stamps on the right side of the wrist, are those proof stamps or just old gouges?
they appear to just be gouges. I actually didn't notice them at all until I was editing and I thought they looked like numbers but when I went back and look , they were just gouges
I would love your vids so much more ,,,along with my wife a kids ,,well if you just made them music makers in a backroom or something ,,just be best if we could only just hear them in the background . thankyou for your knowledge very muchly from all us !
Thank you very much. I'm sure you see these kind of things every day in your country But out here West of the mississippi we are very surprised when they show up
That is a good question. flintlocks have more of a learning curve but caps are sometimes hard to find. it depends on your budget as well. a lower end cap gun will generally work better then a low end flint gun. if you are willing to spend $1000 or so a flintlock kibler kit is the way to go. They are super easy and fun to put together. Invest arms makes a really good historic hawken style gun for 600 or so. The traditions Kentucky rifle is also a very good way to go. If you don't mind the non historical split in the middle of the wood covered by a piece of brass. My advice would be if you can find some caps Start with a lower end capgun, just to kind of Dip your Toes in and see if you're even going to enjoy the hobby before you start spending Real Money. Trust me if you get hooked on black powder powder you will be getting higher end guns.
Hey bang bang man ive been noticing something disturbing here on youtube ive seen videos of jackwagons telling the people that felons can own B.P. weapons that is not entirely true nor is it entirely false but people are spewing this as the gospel in my state felons cannot own a B.P. weapon period while some states laws do allow felons to own B.P. weapons they attach vague terms like faithful reproductions to to the wording of the law i hope you see this and find it intersting enough to research and do a video on the matter im gonna do my own video but my viewer base is small so i cant expect much from it but you have a larger base and will reach more people than i can
well in my state they can own them they just cant carry them. most people dont understand that just because the law does not consider it a firearm they do consider it a deadly weapon which is just as bad if you get caught with it.
@@Real11BangBang here in georgia felons cant own even B.p. weapons and thats true for most of the south east unless the law has changed at least one state allows persons convicted of nomviolent felonys to own modern smokeless weapons but they limit it to just shotguns
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Thanks for taking us on this interesting journey back in time.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for something other than football today. Can't wait to see the work you do to those fine antique firearms.
I'm happy to report that the stock work is already done. And the glue up is complete this afternoon. We will start the process of welding up and rebuilding the broken barrel parts. if our round balls from track of the Wolf. Come in before next Saturday. We may very well have the video out and next sunday
@@Real11BangBang thank you for the update.
In this period, 36 cal. was an all around rifle used for deer and small game.
oh yes that is really why it is one of my favorite calibers of the period. followed closely by the 40
I know one thing, I need to play the lottery more.
surprisingly since we are out further west where most people just want colts and winchesters we picked up both of these for under $700
What a fine pair of rifles; plenty of conservation to put back in shooting condition.
yes thankfully that is half the fun
Two very nice old rifles. I will enjoy watching the rehabilitation videos. Thank you for sharing!
thankyou for watching
This is a great video and adventure. Just outstanding. I hope you take us along on the entire process. Thank you so much.
Thank you! very much haha we even got a piece of 25 auto brass outa the deal!
That shell was a surprise. I remember in my late teens I would come across these old rifles in swapmeets and flea markets everywhere for cheap. No one wanted them. Like the Winchester 73s and 92s . Really kicking myself for not picking them up when I was younger with less demands on my money
oh yes they are kinda hard to get now
Very cool! Your knowledge is impressive and so interesting. Your description of the repairs done in the past as well as what you have planed add so much. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Very nice work on this video.
Thank you very much!
Very interesting thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
I enjoyed this more than the shooting videos . Thanks !
thank you for watching
Two very beautiful rifles.
thankyou
Nice finds. Looking forward to the conservation.
Coming soon!
Nice job. Thanks for sharing 👍 love old bp guns.
thankyou for watching
Man!!! Great video Garrett!! Two great finds and some nice projects. 👍
Glad you like them!
Saving history one piece at a time. A big ole thumbs up!
Thank you very much
Amazing deal you got on those 2 beautiful pieces of history. I'm glad they are getting the attention they deserve.
You and me both!
Some very fine rifles gentlemen.
thankyou
Thank you for a very educational video.
Our pleasure!
Love your channel. Nothing quite like it on UA-cam.
thankyou
Great video. This is a period and style of firearm I know little about. I would be interested in seeing a list of the books recommended.
Several years ago did a search for the makers name on one I have, Truitt, Bro. Philadelphia. I did not come up with much information.
For measuring the bore diameter may I suggest picking up a set of pin gages. It is much easier to use the gages than to interpret a caliper. Groove diameter is a lot harder particularly with odd number rifle grooving. Ring gages are ideal but one must make them in the range desired. An optical comparator would be nice but is not a common tool in a home shop. I had enough trouble finding one for work twenty plus years ago.
thanks for the tip i will look into it
Excellent video! I absolutely love the first tear down of a new (to me) antique rifle. So many layers of history and craftsmanship, (and the assaults of the odd 'hammer and chisel' mechanic), down through the years. I can't wait to watch y'all wade into these two beauties! If possible, please include a bore scope inspection of the rifling.
thank you yes i really need to invest in a bore scope. What I did was go down there with some scotch bright and I found that it was not very rough at all After I got the Ram rod out of it, but I did go ahead and run the scotch bright through it around a 100 times and it is slick as can be in there now.
The naming practices of those times appear to be ridiculous to us today.
The continuation of a first name can be to the point of absurdity. The middle name(s) if used, can lead to associations with people, places or connections to important events outside the family tree.
Something to remember when looking into the family tree ( history )
good point
If you pay attention to the naming, in those days, it continued to connect family to family. I have found in my own tree, that many times a middle name, some times two middle names, connected the mans Son to a historical event the father survived. My own experience, more than once. My 7th ggrandfather was at the battle of fallen timbers in the kentucky mounted militia. He'd also again be involved in the war of 1812. One of his sons carried the name William Harrison as a middle name.
Pay attention to names. It can reveal deep family history of powerful importance.
2 very interesting rifles you have there, really good,(lucky) you can make out the makers name, so often this is so lightly engraved that it is unreadable, I look forward to seeing how these progress. Stay safe! Chris B.
thankyou
Good morning from Syracuse NY brother and everyone else thank you for sharing your information
Good morning!
Hi my friend
That is awesome. Beautiful history.
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent!
👍👍
Many thanks!
Excellent. I'll watch the second half later. Why do you make me spend money? LMAO, gone eShopping.
haha
Good Sunday morning to everyone. Nice rifles 👍And just wanted to share. This old world throws us many things in life good ,bad, and uncertain times. Remember everyone Jesus Christ is the answer through it all ✝️🙏💪
thankyou very much for the reminder it is appreciated
Wow! Both of these rifles are fantastic! Interesting details about those sights being a little off. Being a cross dominant shooter, I wonder if that was an old school solution?
it may have been i mever thought of that
Awesome video. You seem to know a lot about these old rifels. I have just inherited a old cap lock gun it says Honaker on the barrel, but i can't find any info about it. It has a cool maple stock on it, but it's pretty well worn. Do you know where i could go to find out anything about it.
Absolutely enjoyed the video boys! Totally agree with you about the stock being replaced on the Moll rifle. Two fine specimens for sure and for certain. What are the barrel lengths by the way? Really looking forward to seeing the outcome.
TC
i messured thm last night but im haveing a hard time remembering lol i think the burns was 43 and the moll was 40.
Thanks. I thought they looked 40-ish.
NIce video. Can not wait to see the end work. Question: are Springfield 1884 Trapdoors collectible and can you shoot them with modern regular (non buffalo bore) 45-70 ammo?
well the 1884 is the most common of the trap doors You can shoot them with rounds like black hills. Cowboy load 4570, but bear in mind. You will not have near the power that you would have had with a full 4570 charge of black powder. Also bear in mind that the bullet for the modern 4570 will be a few thousands to small to engage the rifling correctly. the original guns need a .459 bullet to achieve real accuracy
👍
The front sight is installed correctly.
Thankyou
Nice additions to the collection!!!
On the Moll rifle, there appeared to be a couple of stamps on the right side of the wrist, are those proof stamps or just old gouges?
they appear to just be gouges. I actually didn't notice them at all until I was editing and I thought they looked like numbers but when I went back and look , they were just gouges
@@Real11BangBang nice. Can’t wait to see these beauties once you get them back up and running
I would love your vids so much more ,,,along with my wife a kids ,,well if you just made them music makers in a backroom or something ,,just be best if we could only just hear them in the background .
thankyou for your knowledge very muchly from all us !
Very cool guys!
Thank you very much. I'm sure you see these kind of things every day in your country But out here West of the mississippi we are very surprised when they show up
Two nice finds indeed.
thankyou
Let see some videos on those double barrels in the corner???!!!
someday soon
Just a quick question. I’m getting into black powder, so what would you recommend for my first rifle. A caplock or a flintlock?
That is a good question. flintlocks have more of a learning curve but caps are sometimes hard to find. it depends on your budget as well. a lower end cap gun will generally work better then a low end flint gun. if you are willing to spend $1000 or so a flintlock kibler kit is the way to go. They are super easy and fun to put together. Invest arms makes a really good historic hawken style gun for 600 or so. The traditions Kentucky rifle is also a very good way to go. If you don't mind the non historical split in the middle of the wood covered by a piece of brass. My advice would be if you can find some caps Start with a lower end capgun, just to kind of Dip your Toes in and see if you're even going to enjoy the hobby before you start spending Real Money. Trust me if you get hooked on black powder powder you will be getting higher end guns.
@@Real11BangBang good to know, thanks for the reply
@@Real11BangBang also is the flintlock version of the traditions any good?
Hey bang bang man ive been noticing something disturbing here on youtube ive seen videos of jackwagons telling the people that felons can own B.P. weapons that is not entirely true nor is it entirely false
but people are spewing this as the gospel in my state felons cannot own a B.P. weapon period while some states laws do allow felons to own B.P. weapons they attach vague terms like faithful reproductions to to the wording of the law i hope you see this and find it intersting enough to research and do a video on the matter
im gonna do my own video but my viewer base is small so i cant expect much from it but you have a larger base and will reach more people than i can
well in my state they can own them they just cant carry them. most people dont understand that just because the law does not consider it a firearm they do consider it a deadly weapon which is just as bad if you get caught with it.
@@Real11BangBang here in georgia felons cant own even B.p. weapons and thats true for most of the south east
unless the law has changed at least one state allows persons convicted of nomviolent felonys to own modern smokeless weapons but they limit it
to just shotguns