What a waste of a beautifully designed, powerful and interesting original kaiju. They could've had her retreat, or they could've just not added her to the movie and it would be the same, Godzilla absorbing radiation in the Arctic and evolving. Feels like someone in the writing team is a Godzilla fanboy and hated Tiamat for beating him up. So they wrote him killing her in 10 seconds as a power fantasy.
I don’t give a damn if Tiamat is classified as a destroyer titan what I care is that she for real obeyed and minded her own business unlike Scylla mf Godzilla could have done better for Tiamat like simply calling Tiamat out or forcing her to submit again and I bet that she didn’t have any idea that her new lair is the biggest stockpile of energy in earth. Tiamat was innocent😭 #JusticeforTiamat
If feel they did Godzilla's evolution all wrong. He should have had a 1st round against Shimu and lost...and while frozen. Metamorphed into magenta Godzilla as a super heat mode to counteract Shimu's freezing breath. Rapid mutation to adapt to challenges, like Shin Godzilla did. It would have made it better, and one less death awesome water Titan...who was basically Manda, but not Manda, and more monsterverse bad@$$ery.
@@NarFlux Exactly, I literally thought that was going to happen. Shimo defeating and freezing Godzilla, and him evolving to break out and have a rematch
She was wasted for sure, Tiamat was easily one of the coolest titans from the comics in my opinion, and it sucks that she's gone now, hopefully they treat their monsterverse original kaiju better from now on, not that theirs that many of them left.
Tbh I'm really disappointed and sad that Tiamat didn't get a bigger role in the movie. She is an unique titan which had a potential which was unfortunately wasted,
Godzilla: Need titan cookies. Tiamat: These are my titan cookies! Godzilla: Kills Tiamat. Godzilla: Eats titan cookies, then falls asleep in Tiamats bed.
I still say that if Tiamat was such a major threat, then the movie should have showed her as such via destroying a fleet of British or Norwegian vessels. What's the point of having a foe when you don't give us an on-screen reason? Even Final Wars, for all of its flaws, showed the monsters (Except Hedorah) as a legitimate threat to man.
@@mavericktrinidad9242 Did you guys just not read the comics or watched the movie? In Dominion she already proved herself as a Titan not subserviant and almost Godzilla's equal in water, enough to push him quite a bit despite the latter needing a place to replenish himself. In GXK Godzilla basically desperately needed her lair to prepare himself for the battle ahead, he literally stocked up on radiation Before going after her, and Tiamat was challanged and chose to fight him instead of forfitting a second home to him.
@@florpbosh3079 Bro said that MV Godzilla breath temperature is 50000C even though that's heisei's Breath temperature and he isn't God, he isn't even KSM, so you can't say that 'Goji-Center confirmed this' lol
TIAMAT got the FINAL WARS treatment remember GODZILLA is king, if you don't submit you will die. simple rule, morality doesn't apply to the king of the monsters.
or other way, u be strong and lucky enough and u declare ur own territory, like kong, it is possible but risky. also, submit doesn't guarantee safety and survival either yo, kings don't have duty to protect ur sake.
@@kingdamazo7266 everything is fictional. I'm saying that these guys should admit bad writing, where they were not doing that. Soon if this continues monsterverse will endup like marvel. They could have written like tiamat has awakened from dormant state and gave alpha call and gman claimed his dominance. But, they have made godzilla a selfish killer. Also they nerfed down godzilla to support kong. Godzilla in this movie is not more than a sidekick.
I think Tiamat was unnecessary. The story would have progressed just fine without Godzilla getting the power up. Honestly, I think it would have been better if we saw Godzilla kicking butt without the power up. It would help show just how powerful big G really is, and that Kong was not fighting a full strength Godzilla in Hong Kong - that atomic breath all the way to the Hollow Earth HAD to have taken some oomph out of him. Added bonus that Tiamat could figure as a prominent antagonist in a future movie or show.
I kinda think she was done a bit dirty but the reason I think Godzilla was able to beat her so fast unlike last time was because Godzilla was Supercharged and was able to use his atomic breath unlike last time in their first fight in Dominion
I have a theory about another possible reason why godzilla killed her. In Godzilla Dominion, the rival kicks Godzilla out of his old home, and Tiamat makes this her new home. When Godzilla goes back to his old home, the rival is dead, and Tiamat emerges. I think that Godzilla believes that Tiamat robbed him of his revenge on the rival. I think this gave Big G another reason to hate Tiamat and further motivated him to kill her.
The reason why godzilla killed tiamat is because of the energy she has been asorbing if you think about it, The reason why its a possibility and makes sense is because Tiamat is a destructive titan and godzilla knows for a fact if she has all that energy and decide to go on a rampage or claim dominance as the new alpha she could become a major threat to him and the natural order. Which explains why he went to Antarctica not only to gain more radiation in order to evolve but to ensure tiamat's actions.
@@SaurianAnimations they did fought in the Arctic (shown in the new empire), but that was years after their first conflict through the entrance of the hollow earth (shown in dominion).
How is the confrontation not a matter of hierarchy? She was stockpiling resources from the king. If you were amassing a huge amount of weaponry at your place, I'm sure your government would pay you a visit. She wouldn't surrender, and he isn't great at debates, nor did he have time
It’s not really weaponry tho, she’s not some gun-nut hiding in a bunker and stockpiling bullets, she found a place where she could live and eat while staying out of everyone’s way. Compare that to Scylla who was going around the world, making problems wherever she went. Both times they fought, Godzilla invaded Tiamat’s territory. He’d already lost that first lair to another titan years ago. #JusticeforTiamat
@@guy_badly you used the example of someone amassing a huge amount of weaponry. Personally, I’d say a more appropriate comparison would be her building her house on an orchard and Godzilla showing up one day to blast down her door with a shotgun.
I think the fight should be at least one or two minutes longer Tiamat is an aquatic titan that absorbed tons of radiation, she deserves a decent fight scene
It’s kind of funny that some people say that Godzilla was in the right for killing Tiamat because he gave her a warning but she still chose to fight. But his warning was the equivalent of someone pulling up to a person’s house, shooting up their bedroom with an assault rifle while they’re sleeping, and then telling them to leave because they need the food they have. No normal person is going to back down and leave. They will fight back. There are better ways for Godzilla to warn Tiamat and get her to back down instead of doing the kaiju equivalent of a drive-by
TIAMAT had it coming, she attack GODZILLA in his weakened state in attempt to dethrone him, TIAMAT should have submit in their second encounter but instead she choose conflict.
@@chito2701 1: Tiamat wasn’t looking to dethrone Godzilla. Godzilla walked into an old lair of his (Of which he got kicked out of by another titan and then Tiamat claims it as her after defeating that titan) looking for a fight to reclaim it, Tiamat got the jump on Godzilla to defend her territory. 2: Tiamat had every right to fight back. After Godzilla beat Tiamat, made her submit, and kicked her out of her territory, Godzilla had Tiamat find a new lair where she can sleep and hibernate through Godzilla’s orders. She does exactly that. Then Godzilla rolls up on her home AGAIN, and shoots up the place while she is asleep to force her to leave again. Tiamat not backing down is a natural and reasonable response to Godzilla basically evicting her again after Godzilla told her to find a new home to sleep in
@juliopastor6735 I mean, if a king rolls up to your house and tells you to find a new home, are you actually stupid enough to fight that king and sign your death warrant? Tiamat shoudve known that she couldn't beat godzilla, especially if he was supercharged. If you swing at the king, you best not miss
@@tysonpeterson9552 Sure you could say that. But even then, does that make Godzilla a good king, or even justified for killing Tiamat. He killed a titan that was obeying him after he made her submit (Per Godzilla’s order, she was told to find a new home and hibernate until told otherwise) and yet Godzilla came up and still killed her. She was defending territory that she rightfully claimed and then Godzilla came, shooting up the place while she was asleep and then told her to leave. She might be foolish to fight Godzilla, but she was more justified in defending herself, than Godzilla coming over and killing her. Even the novelization seems to point out that Godzilla had no reason to kill Tiamat
Tiamat was absolutely done dirty here. Monarch might’ve classified her as a “destroyer” titan, but it’s pretty telling that after being freed from Ghidorah’s control, she just went back to minding her own business. Godzilla invaded her territory twice without provocation, she was well within her rights to defend herself there. Killing her like that felt incredibly wasteful and gratuitous, if they were gonna throw another titan under the bus, I wish they’d have chosen one with a less interesting design and backstory. Not to mention it didn’t exactly feel like Godzilla even needed to power boost to take on skar king alongside Mothra and Kong. #JusticeforTiamat
When Godzilla went to Tiamat's lair, which was the Largest Energy Stockpile in the whole Planet's surface, probably he didn't knew that Tiamat was there, and when he Saw her, he noticed that her appearance was Different, so he suposed that she was Stronger because of the Place's Energy and like Scylla, would become a Problem and be a Rival to Godzilla for the Crown as the Alpha Titan, so he had no choice but to Kill her
I agree, plus it makes sense and is a possibility 🤔 cuz godzilla probably knows for a fact, if tiamat is absorbing all that energy and goes on a rampage, she could become a major threat to him and disrupt the balance of nature.
THANK YOU!!!!! We agree that Tiamat was victim and was just protecting her home… I blame the people and the script behind it for “killing” and wasting, Tiamat… and one more thing
I think Godzilla had to do what he had to do to get more powerful. You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, or in Godzilla's case you can't get more powerful without taking it from someone else
Tiamat was done dirty, from movie time to her movie design, she DID NOT need limbs and a non aquatic tail. Her comic design was way better and actually showed her moving on land. Like her movie colors and spikes thingys though
Tiamat was treated dirty on this movie in my opinion, poor lady only had minimal screen-time and went off instantly, and the fact that we haven't seen a single scene in the movie about the introduction of Tiamat before she died later is insane.
Yeah, I was excited to see Tiamat on the big screen, so for Godzilla to annihilate her so quickly and easily was a bit of a letdown. Not enough to ruin the whole movie for me, and I was definitely in that “whoah Godzilla is so freakin’ COOL” daze during the fight, but yeah… I love sea serpents and with such a cool design, I wish we’d seen more of Tiamat! Maybe all those “spin-off” TV shows will be able to give us some of that! P.S. Now I can’t stop picturing Godzilla firing his atomic breath into Tiamat’s proverbial front door overlaid with that “FBI OPEN UP” meme XD
I personally feel Tiamat was wasted. Should’ve been saved for another film with more screen time. Still like GxK but that’s one thing that should’ve been done much differently.
Godzilla X Kong was BY FAR the worst and its Tohos fault. Skar King Was nerfed by toho because they were afraid he would be too popular. Two years ago he was bigger than godzilla and kong and was sitting on his throne (dwarfing the throne) with godzilla and kongs skulls. He had glowing eyes (which they dont use or explain) and MASSIVE arms. When Toho got more involved they nerfed him down and FORCED legendary to add Shimo (an old toho anguirus design) to weaken scarking and his influence, Godzilla became so OP he looked to be four times as strong as shimo. Mothera was OP as well, she took no damage. Meanwhile the American made titans die in 2 seconds (tiamat and scilla). The power of Godzilla ruined the movie for me along with the nerfing of Skar King, Tiamat, Scilla, AND Kong (they dont even have the balls to give him his electric powers). Movie was a WASTED opportunity for legendary.
I have a strong feeling that Tiamat had Survived... Let me explain why, Because Tiamat It's the biggest and longest Titan on the MonsterVerse's record, thus so far... And I counted only six or seven pieces of her, including either her arms or her legs but I don't see her face... So maybe in her evolution form, She must have used her evolved form to survive so that could be the solid case... And I'm praying and hoping that she did survive because honestly, In recent time I begin to wonder why and I understand that both Tiamat and Scylla... Are classified as Titan destroyers... At the same time there are other options besides label them as destroyers they can do maybe just minor stuff not the end of worlds or power... That's what I believe and this is not a theory I am very certain that she did survive the with the help of her evolution form... And one more thing this is not her true form... That is her evolve form ONLY.
I have to be on Goji Center's side here,like they said,Godzilla (very not kindly) asked Tiamat to leave by shooting the atomic breath towards her lair,and he's the Alpha,she should have obliged,but what did she do instead? She dared attack him,for the second time,and,if this movie made one thing very clear,is that MonsterVerse Godzilla never gives a second chance,Scylla and Tiamat learned that the hard way,and Kong was about to as well if it wasn't for Mothra
Nah, tiamat had been absorbing the energy in that liar for a long time so it just didn't make sense for her to get killed instantly. That too, they didn't portray her as some evil kaiju which is the saddest part.
@Shimo2130 is she? she killed the Rival and other titans, by the way the Rival had the lair before her so she basically stole it (though to be fair he did the same thing to Godzilla) like don't get me wrong Adam Wingard kinda messed it up by killing her off given she had potential but saying she's innocent is not the right word💀
I thought she was too beautiful to be killed so soon We don't have that many titans THIS COOL, I SWEAR if Monarch doesn't put her in season 2 like they did with Apex/Kong/Godzilla/foreshadowing Mechagodzilla in season 1, imma cry
What me and my brother hated the most, was that Godzilla didn't really need that power in the final fight. It just felt like Godzilla just got a color change to his blasts to contrast the ice blasts from Shimo. 😂 Real waste of a Kaiju battle, and I felt the battles were just too quick and effortless in this one.
I am a life long Godzilla fan but I can definitely say for me I did not like that they basically made Godzilla a murderer by killing Tiamat just to gain more power. There should have been a real reason for Godzilla attacking Tiamat other then to become more powerful.
Imo, no, they showcased her with the budget they had and I’m thankful she made it to the big screen. However, I am bummed it was such a short time but we saw her nonetheless 🙏🏼. Also, I hate her stubby hands and feet, I loved her comic design, so unique 🤙🏼
hopefully team out was able to have children before she died and that way you can bring back her children hint hint hint she was a cool designed monster and I'd like to see more of her or her children in an area. we'll be the first time that Godzilla has killed off a monster only to have its children come after him And for revenge. We're pretty certain that the cons are at being mammals reproduced males and females unless have offspring a lot of the times we don't see how these creatures reproduce wrote in and we know have is male and female and they had children or could have had children if the female had survived obviously one egg survived because wrote in came back I mean the only other way these monsters could return is if mothra comes flies over the remains and sprinkles their her mouth or dust on them to rejuvenate them into a juvenile form I've not had to do things reproduce There have to be has to be reproduction of some kind at some point For them to exist I'd love to see a creature that is like jellyfish that no matter how much Godzilla tears into it it regenerates like a real jellyfish they can live forever They just go back to their reduces stage produce millions of babies and one of them will eventually go get big enough to be a threat kind of like Martha is a turtle and she always lays an egg before she goes into battle just in case she dies and she has babies to continue the line some sort of what's the term arthur Genesis because her children are always female and that's generally of course a part in the Genesis Doesn't always mean they're female but 99% of the time they will come back as genetic duplicates of the pairing There are some islands in the South Pacific that have all female lizards on them Because they are reproduced through parts of Genesis. I would assume that Godzilla is like that that parts of his body can break off and grow a whole new Godzilla why we don't have more of them running around I don't know they mean there have been storylines where there were children with Godzilla and juvenile Godzilla we're going around. Anger's we don't know how it reproduces nor most of the any of the monsters that we've seen in the monster verse so far through all of the Godzilla movies I would still like to see gamma rub versus Godzilla I know it's done as a Animated but animation is not the same thing as live action I can see gamer at teaming up with Mothra so to subdue a Godzilla that has gone berserk for some reason maybe he gets a bad passion type of radioactive material that drives him crazy or all his newfound powers and abilities
Tiamats death is a black spot of shame in an amazing movie. The mythical mother of all monsters from ancient babylonia, just wasted. I hope at least another mythical beast god like Typhon gets the spotlight he deserves
Tiament was a threat to countrys and other titans like Godzilla so she kinda ask for it would never blame Godzilla for doing that so um no more Georgia Tiament hurricanes and a nother thing Godzilla was looking for a kong not tiament so she had no reason to actually to attack Godzilla and goji center explained that if tiament became even stronger she can be a threat tobtitans and humans so Godzilla didvtge right thing to kill her
I am disappointed in how Tiamat was handled, she definitely deserved better, seeing such a great looking titan go out in such a way was sad to me... The only way that I can see Legendary fixing this misstep is by saying that Tiamat could regenerate from that death offscreen somewhere later or say that she left behind a child or egg that could grow up into Manda!
Literally what i was thinking as well. I feel like it's probably the only way they could bring her back and give her justice. Ghidorah can regenerate, so why can't she also do that🙏🏼. She's way too cool for them to shaft her like that.
They wasted this beast for just a power boost for Godzilla. They would have made her in godzilla's team for future movies becoz tiamat is almost the size of Godzilla and could take down some really strong kaijus in water element.
It's almost like the writers forgot that godzilla was "king of the monsters." Could they really not have had godzilla do some kind of alpha roar and show tiamat leave?
To be fair with godzilla the fact that tiamat was nesting upon that huge amount of energy could have meant that she was powering up to fight godzilla again
I would argue the beam into her den was to call her out first to leave, Tiamat decided todays the day she can a fight him this time feeling more powerful with that energy Godzilla was here for in the first place. he could have beamed her again but he just bite her and tussled at first after she began the attack, till he eventually had enough and chose to use the finisher Godzilla’s known to hold his beam if he doesn’t actually want to kill something. Sure there are other ways to tell her to leave, but the man was on a mission he didn’t have time to talk it out As smart as goji is, he seems more like the fight first ask questions later kinda guy I think heh With the way he handled with the other kaiju that was a murder lol But yeah I do have to agree though, it was a waist of a really cool kaiju we finally get to see on screen only to die so fast cus he needed something
Godzilla needed the energy boost..He heard the distress call. In this case, the needs of the many outweighed the needs of the one. Godzilla will not tolerate being usurped or have any titan challenge him on land and or sea...
I too wished that Tiamat would’ve stuck around a little longer. I’m just glad to see a comic-exclusive monster finally make its way into a film. Tiamat is the first out of hopefully many to be apart of the MV’s extended lore to make it’s way to the screen.
I do agree that Tiamat was a victim, but I also understand why it needed to happen. First Godzilla lost to a monkey without even getting a rematch. Then he nearly lost to Tiamat, and only won by taking her out of her element. Then in this movie he took a fall for another monkey with a glove (though he did end up winning in the end). Something had to be done or he would quickly turn into the king of fodder rather than the king of the monsters. Hey, at least it's implied that he ate her. Making it more of a predator-prey relationship than outright murder.
Think about it; Godzilla couldn't waste any time. He needed to finish Tiamat quickly. So while on the outside, it seems that she was done dirty, it actually makes a lot of sense when you consider Godzilla's motives. Godzilla couldn't wait for Tiamat to submit or run away. So to him, it was submit right away or die. Godzilla didn't care either way. So that's why he attacked France and Spain to power up for that fight.
Dangerville can you make a video about people discussing and Adam too that we are confused if we are getting space Godzilla or destoryah because Adam said he wanted to focus on a destoryah and Godzilla film together
Bruh, Tiamat was a destroyer like Scylla. They would've have preferred Ghidorah be the alpha so they can destroy shit & wreak general mayhem. And why do you think Tiamat was at that particular place? You think she chose that lair because it was in a good neighborhood? Nah, she wanted that power same as Godzilla. She wanted it for the same reason Scylla was attacking nuclear power plants & absorbing the radiation. She was going to square up with the G-Man.
Not really. Tiamat, from what the Novel and Dominion says, was in that place to sleep and hibernate in, per Godzilla’s orders( which she and Scylla obliged to). For Scylla, it was one of 2 theories by Bernie that she was getting ready to fight Godzilla, the other theory being her reproducing. Scylla is weird. She somewhat deserves and somewhat doesn’t. In fact the destruction she caused could have been avoided if Godzilla made her go to a more radioactive place to feed and sleep. She is basically starving when she woke up in 2019 and when Godzilla fought her in Dominion. After Godzilla beat her and made her runaway, she was forced to go to Antártica, allowing her to cool the polar icecaps, before Godzilla orders all the titans to hibernate. Scylla does that, but she would later wake up by the Titan Hunter, and since Titans lose energy while hibernating if they aren’t in a radioactive source, Scylla was probably more starved than ever. Scylla could be trying to reproduce in order to save herself or fight Godzilla for alpha (Probably because she can’t take Godzilla’s rule anymore)
Also Na Kika, the titan Godzilla saved in Dominion, is a destroyer, yet Godzilla saved her. Shouldn’t Godzilla have killed her, since according to you about destroyers, she would have preferred Ghidorah as alpha and would have been a future threat?
@@juliopastor6735 Godzilla gives all titans a chance. Even Tiamat got a warning shot. She chose to fight instead of going somewhere else. Destroyer Titans like Camazotz, Na Kika & Amhuluk are tolerated because they've either steered clear of Godzilla, made clear they were not a threat to him, or in Amhuluk's case bowed when he realized how his big dog moves got his puppy dog ass in trouble. He even made a move on Godzilla but was allowed to live. In conclusion, Tiamat was a victim of her own ambitions & desires & Godzilla is not becoming Ghidorah v2.
@@HillbillyDeLucks I never said Godzilla was becoming Ghidorah 2.0. But Godzilla could have handled Tiamat differently. And besides, Godzilla’s warning shot, even if you put it in context, seems less like a warning shot and more like Godzilla calling Tiamat to fight. It’s basically the equivalent of someone doing a drive-by on a person’s house and then telling them to leave their house because they want your food that you have stored there. Like no normal, no person, or titan, would leave and backdown from that. They are fighting back. It puts Godzilla in a bad light. Since he killed a titan that was basically obeying him until he provoked that titan to disobeying him by his own actions.
Tiamat was so done dirty in this film. Like imagine if Scar king survived the end of this film and then in the next one he just got one shot by Godzilla's atomic breath. That would be so stupid.
You could make a argument that Tiamate could have ran away and just let Godzilla have the lair as she would know Godzilla is the more powerful between the two of them given Godzilla sheer power as a weaker Godzilla forced her to retreat. The smarter move for Tiamate was to run and find somewhere else. Godzilla needed that lair since in his mind he will be facing skar king,Shimo,and his ape army by himself. Which is understandable if I was facing thoses overwhelming odds I would want to become more powerful too.
I want a Destroy All Monsters remake and have Godzilla kill all the titans and humans because he's tired of being earth's babysitter. Yes, that's toxic and ignorant, but idc. 😈😈😈😈😈
I think they threw Tiamat, a wonderful, unique, and very interesting titan, away way too fast. Hopefully, if any of the other titans that appear in the books or comics, like Amhuluk, Quetzalcoatl, Na Kika, or Mokelem Mbembe, make it to the movies, that they don't kill them right away.
I have mixed feelings about Tiamat’s appearance and death in New Empire. On the one hand, it was really surprising to see a kaiju from the graphic novels make it in a movie. Her design was just amazing to look at, and her personality portrayal was great. On the other hand, I’m also disappointed that Tiamat was killed as I really liked her design. As she had a majestic god like serpent look to her, plus she was one of the few kaiju to challenge Godzilla and give him a good fight. Plus she has interesting lore behind her, as she killed the Great Ape that drove Godzilla from his own home. So that showed that she was a very formidable kaiju. One that can be deemed as a threat to alpha species. I also agree that the fight between her and Godzilla should’ve been longer. I know in Dominion, Tiamat caught Godzilla off guard. Plus he wasn’t even close to full strength/ power. But to fight Godzilla at this point in his life. And not only survive, but also could’ve killed him. That was quite the achievement. But back to NE, considering the fact that Tiamat evolved into a deadlier/more powerful form. She should’ve put at least a slightly better fight than she did (despite the fact that Godzilla was supercharged). Nevertheless, I still enjoyed the fight between the two. And at least it showed that she is still better fighter in aquatic environments. Though Godzilla is still stronger and still managed to wound her before using his breath. And like Jacob I do think her death was pretty cool to watch. Especially since this is the first time we’ve Godzilla’s breath slice someone up in this universe. Edit:noticed some mistypes.
I didn't like that Godzilla killed Scylla or Tiamat. Scylla was my favorite side-Titan in King of the Monsters. I loved her design and her role in the ecosystem. So I was really sad-faced when Godzilla killed her like that. I get that it was because she was trying to become the alpha and that might have had bad consequences for humanity, but I still can't agree with the filmmakers' decision. The same can be said for Tiamat. She wasn't one of my favorite Titans, but she really was just defending her territory. I feel that the filmmakers forgot that Godzilla is the Alpha Titan, which means he protects the balance of nature and looks after the Titans. Scylla literally stops the oceans from rising and flooding coastal areas. Now that she's dead, what will happen to our oceans? I don't like it when a movie does something like this.
I really liked Tiamat and Scylla, i think they were both very interesting and new monsters we hadn't seen before. So i was pretty bummed to see them both get offed so unceremoniously. But maybe it'll be revealed that Tiamat had an offspring or something? Maybe a way to introduce MV Manda if they wanted? Idk I'm not huge on killing MV originals to replace them with Toho monsters.
Tiamat was kinda overlooked by the movie. The humans talking about her made her sound like she’s this badass alpha titan of the North Pole and has control of this super powerful energy source. Then Godzilla arrives and that’s it… that was Tiamat. Goodbye. If she’s supposed to feel strong and like an obstacle/adversary for Godzilla, at least show some destruction being done by her. Even if she’s just there for the sake of getting killed off to make Godzilla seem more like a badass, the monster needs more introduction. It’s such a cool creature design gone to waste. Hopefully we’ll have an extended cut of some sort that will show more of Tiamat and the other titans
👍🏾yes I agree with you every word. Tiamat. Looks awesome and I would have liked to see her again. Why are they killing the girl’s. Battle yes killing no 🙋🏾♀️❤
Are we seeing Godzilla get the Bayverse Optimus Prime treatment? What if this singled out murder was just a small crack in the Big G’s overall rule as king. What if he’s actually a very aggressive ruler who takes the slightest push as an act of war and brutally murders the kaiju? What do you think?
I just love how everyone is saying that "Tiamat is an evil kaiju that deserved to die", we never see her do any bad thing, also disobeying Godzilla doesn't mean Evil, Kong also Disobeys Godzilla, then Is he Evil? No
This shows that similar to Henry Cavills Superman (who is a borderline villain in all of Snyders movies to be honest, and with being the most powerful being in the universe which he is, it is inevitable that he will do a lot of collateral damage), Godzilla is not an all around good guy. He will ultimately only think about himself and is very arrogant and some times unnecessary cruel. Matter of fact, he carries on like the street gangs of Los Angeles or my hometown Stockholm who will just turn up at your bedroom with an assault rifle because they need something from you.
Tiamat got a raw deal, and her design wasn't given justice either. In the comics, Tiamat had a unique and distinctive design that set her apart. However, in the movie, she just looks like a discount Manda. I know that the Titan designs in the comics aren't always one-to-one with the films, but I wish they had stayed closer to her original comic design.
Personally I feel as though Tiamat was wasted and it does seem like every titan who has been classified as a Destroyer is an excuse for Godzilla to have fodder. If the script for the film had Amhuluk instead of Tiamat, I would understand. Simultaneously there's this trend that has been a thing where almost every Serpentine monster appears and the writers are like "Kill it with Fire!". As nice as it was seeing Warbats again, Tiamat feels like a one of a kind that we will never see on screen again and it's sad.
Do you think Tiamat was done dirty!?
-Jacob
First and no
Absolutely
No
Yes
well since it was done by Godzilla, no
What a waste of a beautifully designed, powerful and interesting original kaiju. They could've had her retreat, or they could've just not added her to the movie and it would be the same, Godzilla absorbing radiation in the Arctic and evolving. Feels like someone in the writing team is a Godzilla fanboy and hated Tiamat for beating him up. So they wrote him killing her in 10 seconds as a power fantasy.
#JusticeforTiamat
I don’t give a damn if Tiamat is classified as a destroyer titan what I care is that she for real obeyed and minded her own business unlike Scylla mf Godzilla could have done better for Tiamat like simply calling Tiamat out or forcing her to submit again and I bet that she didn’t have any idea that her new lair is the biggest stockpile of energy in earth. Tiamat was innocent😭 #JusticeforTiamat
I think the point was to show Godzilla's seriousness. He was absolutely Done f-ing around.
If feel they did Godzilla's evolution all wrong. He should have had a 1st round against Shimu and lost...and while frozen. Metamorphed into magenta Godzilla as a super heat mode to counteract Shimu's freezing breath. Rapid mutation to adapt to challenges, like Shin Godzilla did. It would have made it better, and one less death awesome water Titan...who was basically Manda, but not Manda, and more monsterverse bad@$$ery.
@@NarFlux Exactly, I literally thought that was going to happen. Shimo defeating and freezing Godzilla, and him evolving to break out and have a rematch
She was wasted for sure, Tiamat was easily one of the coolest titans from the comics in my opinion, and it sucks that she's gone now, hopefully they treat their monsterverse original kaiju better from now on, not that theirs that many of them left.
Our only hope for her return is if she gets Mechanized like Kevin
Tbh I'm really disappointed and sad that Tiamat didn't get a bigger role in the movie.
She is an unique titan which had a potential which was unfortunately wasted,
Godzilla: Need titan cookies.
Tiamat: These are my titan cookies!
Godzilla: Kills Tiamat.
Godzilla: Eats titan cookies, then falls asleep in Tiamats bed.
I still say that if Tiamat was such a major threat, then the movie should have showed her as such via destroying a fleet of British or Norwegian vessels. What's the point of having a foe when you don't give us an on-screen reason? Even Final Wars, for all of its flaws, showed the monsters (Except Hedorah) as a legitimate threat to man.
One word….money
@@mavericktrinidad9242 This was the cheapest Godzillaverse movie made. I doubt filming a 5-7 minute scene like that would have cost that much.
@@mavericktrinidad9242 Did you guys just not read the comics or watched the movie? In Dominion she already proved herself as a Titan not subserviant and almost Godzilla's equal in water, enough to push him quite a bit despite the latter needing a place to replenish himself.
In GXK Godzilla basically desperately needed her lair to prepare himself for the battle ahead, he literally stocked up on radiation Before going after her, and Tiamat was challanged and chose to fight him instead of forfitting a second home to him.
I love Final Wars, but I wouldn't call most of the kaiju legitimate threats. Godzilla stomped most of them with little trouble.
@@khandimahn9687 Threats to man. My fault for being a bit fuzzy.
Godzilla when evicting Tiamat: "RENT!!!"
Tiamat: I'LL GIVE YOU RENT WHEN YOU FIX THESE DAMN DOOR
Godzilla: "she is a good girl, she must on some kind of trouble"
This character was definitely wasted. This is a character that I would of loved to have seen more of as she looked by far 1 of the most unique
Yeah she was very uniquely beautiful, bioluminescent dragon like creature of the deep
She might be gone but not forgotten !
And her legacy and DNA still lives in Evolved Godzilla.
You're probably wondering why does Tiamat looks so different in the movie. Well, in Goji Center it's confirmed that Tiamat evolved.
Goji center is also made by fans though so its more like we have a logical conclusion for the design change
Goji Center is no source.Even if they may be right I mean what other reason can it be to explain lore discrepancy?
Lol, stop watching that channel, literally 75% of what they say is speculation, 20% are lies and 5% is legit and real
@@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024and where’s ur explanation
@@florpbosh3079 Bro said that MV Godzilla breath temperature is 50000C even though that's heisei's Breath temperature and he isn't God, he isn't even KSM, so you can't say that 'Goji-Center confirmed this' lol
TIAMAT got the FINAL WARS treatment
remember GODZILLA is king, if you don't submit you will die.
simple rule, morality doesn't apply to the king of the monsters.
or other way, u be strong and lucky enough and u declare ur own territory, like kong, it is possible but risky. also, submit doesn't guarantee safety and survival either yo, kings don't have duty to protect ur sake.
It was the writer's fault for killing Tiamat. Godzilla didn't need to kill Tiamat.
cent percent. bad writing. these goji and ville channels are covering it up.
Well,goji center has the reason as to why Godzilla killed Tiamat
@puliraja4801 "covering it up"? It's fiction dude lol
They're just trying to conclude why it was written that way
@@kingdamazo7266 everything is fictional. I'm saying that these guys should admit bad writing, where they were not doing that. Soon if this continues monsterverse will endup like marvel.
They could have written like tiamat has awakened from dormant state and gave alpha call and gman claimed his dominance. But, they have made godzilla a selfish killer. Also they nerfed down godzilla to support kong. Godzilla in this movie is not more than a sidekick.
lol people seem to be under the impression that godzilla isn't a ruthless killer somehow? nothing about it was bad writing or out of character.
I think Tiamat was unnecessary. The story would have progressed just fine without Godzilla getting the power up. Honestly, I think it would have been better if we saw Godzilla kicking butt without the power up. It would help show just how powerful big G really is, and that Kong was not fighting a full strength Godzilla in Hong Kong - that atomic breath all the way to the Hollow Earth HAD to have taken some oomph out of him. Added bonus that Tiamat could figure as a prominent antagonist in a future movie or show.
But you see: power up equals new design which means more toy sales
I kinda think she was done a bit dirty but the reason I think Godzilla was able to beat her so fast unlike last time was because Godzilla was Supercharged and was able to use his atomic breath unlike last time in their first fight in Dominion
I have a theory about another possible reason why godzilla killed her. In Godzilla Dominion, the rival kicks Godzilla out of his old home, and Tiamat makes this her new home. When Godzilla goes back to his old home, the rival is dead, and Tiamat emerges. I think that Godzilla believes that Tiamat robbed him of his revenge on the rival. I think this gave Big G another reason to hate Tiamat and further motivated him to kill her.
The reason why godzilla killed tiamat is because of the energy she has been asorbing if you think about it,
The reason why its a possibility and makes sense is because Tiamat is a destructive titan and godzilla knows for a fact if she has all that energy and decide to go on a rampage or claim dominance as the new alpha she could become a major threat to him and the natural order.
Which explains why he went to Antarctica not only to gain more radiation in order to evolve but to ensure tiamat's actions.
I thought Godzilla and Tiamat fought in the Arctic
@@SaurianAnimations they did fought in the Arctic (shown in the new empire), but that was years after their first conflict through the entrance of the hollow earth (shown in dominion).
I really wish Tiamat regenerates like Deadpool and appear again even though it's never gonna happen
Me too
R.I.P Tiamat 😔
How is the confrontation not a matter of hierarchy? She was stockpiling resources from the king. If you were amassing a huge amount of weaponry at your place, I'm sure your government would pay you a visit. She wouldn't surrender, and he isn't great at debates, nor did he have time
It’s not really weaponry tho, she’s not some gun-nut hiding in a bunker and stockpiling bullets, she found a place where she could live and eat while staying out of everyone’s way.
Compare that to Scylla who was going around the world, making problems wherever she went. Both times they fought, Godzilla invaded Tiamat’s territory. He’d already lost that first lair to another titan years ago.
#JusticeforTiamat
@JadedRosexoxo I didn't say she had guns, I said resources. I made a comparison to a gun nut, but that's not the same.
@@guy_badly you used the example of someone amassing a huge amount of weaponry.
Personally, I’d say a more appropriate comparison would be her building her house on an orchard and Godzilla showing up one day to blast down her door with a shotgun.
I think the fight should be at least one or two minutes longer
Tiamat is an aquatic titan that absorbed tons of radiation, she deserves a decent fight scene
It’s kind of funny that some people say that Godzilla was in the right for killing Tiamat because he gave her a warning but she still chose to fight. But his warning was the equivalent of someone pulling up to a person’s house, shooting up their bedroom with an assault rifle while they’re sleeping, and then telling them to leave because they need the food they have.
No normal person is going to back down and leave. They will fight back. There are better ways for Godzilla to warn Tiamat and get her to back down instead of doing the kaiju equivalent of a drive-by
TIAMAT had it coming, she attack GODZILLA in his weakened state in attempt to dethrone him, TIAMAT should have submit in their second encounter but instead she choose conflict.
@chito2701 Tiamat only fought Godzilla the first time was because Godzilla invaded her home and attempted to take it by force.
@@chito2701 1: Tiamat wasn’t looking to dethrone Godzilla. Godzilla walked into an old lair of his (Of which he got kicked out of by another titan and then Tiamat claims it as her after defeating that titan) looking for a fight to reclaim it, Tiamat got the jump on Godzilla to defend her territory.
2: Tiamat had every right to fight back. After Godzilla beat Tiamat, made her submit, and kicked her out of her territory, Godzilla had Tiamat find a new lair where she can sleep and hibernate through Godzilla’s orders. She does exactly that. Then Godzilla rolls up on her home AGAIN, and shoots up the place while she is asleep to force her to leave again. Tiamat not backing down is a natural and reasonable response to Godzilla basically evicting her again after Godzilla told her to find a new home to sleep in
@juliopastor6735 I mean, if a king rolls up to your house and tells you to find a new home, are you actually stupid enough to fight that king and sign your death warrant? Tiamat shoudve known that she couldn't beat godzilla, especially if he was supercharged. If you swing at the king, you best not miss
@@tysonpeterson9552 Sure you could say that. But even then, does that make Godzilla a good king, or even justified for killing Tiamat. He killed a titan that was obeying him after he made her submit (Per Godzilla’s order, she was told to find a new home and hibernate until told otherwise) and yet Godzilla came up and still killed her. She was defending territory that she rightfully claimed and then Godzilla came, shooting up the place while she was asleep and then told her to leave. She might be foolish to fight Godzilla, but she was more justified in defending herself, than Godzilla coming over and killing her. Even the novelization seems to point out that Godzilla had no reason to kill Tiamat
Tiamat was absolutely done dirty here. Monarch might’ve classified her as a “destroyer” titan, but it’s pretty telling that after being freed from Ghidorah’s control, she just went back to minding her own business. Godzilla invaded her territory twice without provocation, she was well within her rights to defend herself there.
Killing her like that felt incredibly wasteful and gratuitous, if they were gonna throw another titan under the bus, I wish they’d have chosen one with a less interesting design and backstory. Not to mention it didn’t exactly feel like Godzilla even needed to power boost to take on skar king alongside Mothra and Kong.
#JusticeforTiamat
They wanted an excuse for the color change.
Fax
It's always the female's starting problem 😂😂😂😂
When Godzilla went to Tiamat's lair, which was the Largest Energy Stockpile in the whole Planet's surface, probably he didn't knew that Tiamat was there, and when he Saw her, he noticed that her appearance was Different, so he suposed that she was Stronger because of the Place's Energy and like Scylla, would become a Problem and be a Rival to Godzilla for the Crown as the Alpha Titan, so he had no choice but to Kill her
I agree, plus it makes sense and is a possibility 🤔 cuz godzilla probably knows for a fact, if tiamat is absorbing all that energy and goes on a rampage, she could become a major threat to him and disrupt the balance of nature.
THANK YOU!!!!! We agree that Tiamat was victim and was just protecting her home… I blame the people and the script behind it for “killing” and wasting, Tiamat… and one more thing
Fun Fact Tiamat name of the villains who appear Dungeons and Dragons cartoon
It goes back before the cartoon. Before D&D even. Tiamat was a Mesopotamian goddess of the sea... which makes sense for a sea serpent kaiju.
I think Godzilla had to do what he had to do to get more powerful. You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, or in Godzilla's case you can't get more powerful without taking it from someone else
Tiamat was done dirty, from movie time to her movie design, she DID NOT need limbs and a non aquatic tail. Her comic design was way better and actually showed her moving on land. Like her movie colors and spikes thingys though
Tiamat was treated dirty on this movie in my opinion, poor lady only had minimal screen-time and went off instantly, and the fact that we haven't seen a single scene in the movie about the introduction of Tiamat before she died later is insane.
It's a female not a male....
@@PrincePaul1316 that's why there's a "she" at the bottom of the comment.
I still don’t believe she’s fully dead
Well he left her broken in pieces (literally)
I can't see her coming back except as flashbacks or mecha form(I don't think so)
@@ahmedthedragon maybe she can regenerate
Why was Tiamat was found at Outpost 53 and not in Godzilla’s old lair?
Yeah, I was excited to see Tiamat on the big screen, so for Godzilla to annihilate her so quickly and easily was a bit of a letdown. Not enough to ruin the whole movie for me, and I was definitely in that “whoah Godzilla is so freakin’ COOL” daze during the fight, but yeah… I love sea serpents and with such a cool design, I wish we’d seen more of Tiamat! Maybe all those “spin-off” TV shows will be able to give us some of that!
P.S. Now I can’t stop picturing Godzilla firing his atomic breath into Tiamat’s proverbial front door overlaid with that “FBI OPEN UP” meme XD
I need a plot twist where she can regenerate back to life
Tiamat was done dirty and she didn't deserve to be executed to me Godzilla should have just commanded her to move to another location.
She wouldn’t have listened and Godzilla knew that. She’s far too aggressive and territorial.
I personally feel Tiamat was wasted. Should’ve been saved for another film with more screen time. Still like GxK but that’s one thing that should’ve been done much differently.
Godzilla X Kong was BY FAR the worst and its Tohos fault. Skar King Was nerfed by toho because they were afraid he would be too popular. Two years ago he was bigger than godzilla and kong and was sitting on his throne (dwarfing the throne) with godzilla and kongs skulls. He had glowing eyes (which they dont use or explain) and MASSIVE arms. When Toho got more involved they nerfed him down and FORCED legendary to add Shimo (an old toho anguirus design) to weaken scarking and his influence, Godzilla became so OP he looked to be four times as strong as shimo. Mothera was OP as well, she took no damage. Meanwhile the American made titans die in 2 seconds (tiamat and scilla). The power of Godzilla ruined the movie for me along with the nerfing of Skar King, Tiamat, Scilla, AND Kong (they dont even have the balls to give him his electric powers). Movie was a WASTED opportunity for legendary.
“such wasted potential”
-Sub Zero
Wait is this fr? I hope not, that sounds awful. Toho sabotaging the Monsterverse?
I loved Skar King, but hate that they nerfed him. Was it really confirmed that Toho was responsible??
I have a strong feeling that Tiamat had Survived... Let me explain why, Because Tiamat It's the biggest and longest Titan on the MonsterVerse's record, thus so far... And I counted only six or seven pieces of her, including either her arms or her legs but I don't see her face... So maybe in her evolution form, She must have used her evolved form to survive so that could be the solid case... And I'm praying and hoping that she did survive because honestly, In recent time I begin to wonder why and I understand that both Tiamat and Scylla... Are classified as Titan destroyers... At the same time there are other options besides label them as destroyers they can do maybe just minor stuff not the end of worlds or power... That's what I believe and this is not a theory I am very certain that she did survive the with the help of her evolution form... And one more thing this is not her true form... That is her evolve form ONLY.
I have to be on Goji Center's side here,like they said,Godzilla (very not kindly) asked Tiamat to leave by shooting the atomic breath towards her lair,and he's the Alpha,she should have obliged,but what did she do instead? She dared attack him,for the second time,and,if this movie made one thing very clear,is that MonsterVerse Godzilla never gives a second chance,Scylla and Tiamat learned that the hard way,and Kong was about to as well if it wasn't for Mothra
Nah, tiamat had been absorbing the energy in that liar for a long time so it just didn't make sense for her to get killed instantly. That too, they didn't portray her as some evil kaiju which is the saddest part.
@Shimo2130 is she? she killed the Rival and other titans, by the way the Rival had the lair before her so she basically stole it (though to be fair he did the same thing to Godzilla) like don't get me wrong Adam Wingard kinda messed it up by killing her off given she had potential but saying she's innocent is not the right word💀
I hope Godzilla Dominion gets a live action adaptation just so we get to see more of her
What a waste and way to short fight.. she desevered better
I thought she was too beautiful to be killed so soon
We don't have that many titans THIS COOL, I SWEAR if Monarch doesn't put her in season 2 like they did with Apex/Kong/Godzilla/foreshadowing Mechagodzilla in season 1, imma cry
What me and my brother hated the most, was that Godzilla didn't really need that power in the final fight. It just felt like Godzilla just got a color change to his blasts to contrast the ice blasts from Shimo. 😂 Real waste of a Kaiju battle, and I felt the battles were just too quick and effortless in this one.
I am a life long Godzilla fan but I can definitely say for me I did not like that they basically made Godzilla a murderer by killing Tiamat just to gain more power. There should have been a real reason for Godzilla attacking Tiamat other then to become more powerful.
Imo, no, they showcased her with the budget they had and I’m thankful she made it to the big screen. However, I am bummed it was such a short time but we saw her nonetheless 🙏🏼. Also, I hate her stubby hands and feet, I loved her comic design, so unique 🤙🏼
hopefully team out was able to have children before she died and that way you can bring back her children hint hint hint she was a cool designed monster and I'd like to see more of her or her children in an area. we'll be the first time that Godzilla has killed off a monster only to have its children come after him And for revenge.
We're pretty certain that the cons are at being mammals reproduced males and females unless have offspring a lot of the times we don't see how these creatures reproduce wrote in and we know have is male and female and they had children or could have had children if the female had survived obviously one egg survived because wrote in came back I mean the only other way these monsters could return is if mothra comes flies over the remains and sprinkles their her mouth or dust on them to rejuvenate them into a juvenile form I've not had to do things reproduce There have to be has to be reproduction of some kind at some point For them to exist I'd love to see a creature that is like jellyfish that no matter how much Godzilla tears into it it regenerates like a real jellyfish they can live forever They just go back to their reduces stage produce millions of babies and one of them will eventually go get big enough to be a threat kind of like Martha is a turtle and she always lays an egg before she goes into battle just in case she dies and she has babies to continue the line some sort of what's the term arthur Genesis because her children are always female and that's generally of course a part in the Genesis Doesn't always mean they're female but 99% of the time they will come back as genetic duplicates of the pairing There are some islands in the South Pacific that have all female lizards on them Because they are reproduced through parts of Genesis. I would assume that Godzilla is like that that parts of his body can break off and grow a whole new Godzilla why we don't have more of them running around I don't know they mean there have been storylines where there were children with Godzilla and juvenile Godzilla we're going around. Anger's we don't know how it reproduces nor most of the any of the monsters that we've seen in the monster verse so far through all of the Godzilla movies I would still like to see gamma rub versus Godzilla I know it's done as a Animated but animation is not the same thing as live action I can see gamer at teaming up with Mothra so to subdue a Godzilla that has gone berserk for some reason maybe he gets a bad passion type of radioactive material that drives him crazy or all his newfound powers and abilities
Tiamats death is a black spot of shame in an amazing movie. The mythical mother of all monsters from ancient babylonia, just wasted. I hope at least another mythical beast god like Typhon gets the spotlight he deserves
1:55 a big scary guy you say screaming at me breaking into my home well he’s big and scary so I’ll run for my life 🤷♂️
Tiament was a threat to countrys and other titans like Godzilla so she kinda ask for it would never blame Godzilla for doing that so um no more Georgia Tiament hurricanes and a nother thing Godzilla was looking for a kong not tiament so she had no reason to actually to attack Godzilla and goji center explained that if tiament became even stronger she can be a threat tobtitans and humans so Godzilla didvtge right thing to kill her
I am disappointed in how Tiamat was handled, she definitely deserved better, seeing such a great looking titan go out in such a way was sad to me...
The only way that I can see Legendary fixing this misstep is by saying that Tiamat could regenerate from that death offscreen somewhere later or say that she left behind a child or egg that could grow up into Manda!
Literally what i was thinking as well. I feel like it's probably the only way they could bring her back and give her justice. Ghidorah can regenerate, so why can't she also do that🙏🏼. She's way too cool for them to shaft her like that.
They wasted this beast for just a power boost for Godzilla. They would have made her in godzilla's team for future movies becoz tiamat is almost the size of Godzilla and could take down some really strong kaijus in water element.
I’m such a huge monsterverse fan and had no idea who Tiamat was before gxk and does not care about that titian.
I know I’m not the only one!
That why reading comic is also necessary because is help you understand more about titan and why they random appear in the film
Justice for Tiamat
I really liked Tiamat I feel as though the battles were short and anticlimactic I just would have wanted to see a longer battle
Godzilla shouldn't have been able to beat her with one atomic blast. She was more powerful. With that pink stuff.
Absolute waste. Maybe they can play it off as this was a tiamat baby and the real tiamat had another layer in the amtartic or soemthing.
Ya I was upset to see a awesome and original Titan get only two appearances in the monster-verse before being killed
**Scylla and Tiamat existing**
Godzilla: And I took that personally.
I love how dangerville can openly disagree and share his opinion unlike others who look stupid trying to justify her death.
It's almost like the writers forgot that godzilla was "king of the monsters." Could they
really not have had godzilla do some kind of alpha roar and show tiamat leave?
To be fair with godzilla the fact that tiamat was nesting upon that huge amount of energy could have meant that she was powering up to fight godzilla again
I would argue the beam into her den was to call her out first to leave, Tiamat decided todays the day she can a fight him this time feeling more powerful with that energy Godzilla was here for in the first place.
he could have beamed her again but he just bite her and tussled at first after she began the attack, till he eventually had enough and chose to use the finisher
Godzilla’s known to hold his beam if he doesn’t actually want to kill something.
Sure there are other ways to tell her to leave, but the man was on a mission he didn’t have time to talk it out
As smart as goji is, he seems more like the fight first ask questions later kinda guy I think heh
With the way he handled with the other kaiju that was a murder lol
But yeah I do have to agree though, it was a waist of a really cool kaiju we finally get to see on screen only to die so fast cus he needed something
Godzilla needed the energy boost..He heard the distress call. In this case, the needs of the many outweighed the needs of the one. Godzilla will not tolerate being usurped or have any titan challenge him on land and or sea...
I too wished that Tiamat would’ve stuck around a little longer. I’m just glad to see a comic-exclusive monster finally make its way into a film. Tiamat is the first out of hopefully many to be apart of the MV’s extended lore to make it’s way to the screen.
Did anyone notice how godzilla is kind like 1998 godzilla.
May tiamat rest in peace
I do agree that Tiamat was a victim, but I also understand why it needed to happen. First Godzilla lost to a monkey without even getting a rematch. Then he nearly lost to Tiamat, and only won by taking her out of her element. Then in this movie he took a fall for another monkey with a glove (though he did end up winning in the end). Something had to be done or he would quickly turn into the king of fodder rather than the king of the monsters.
Hey, at least it's implied that he ate her. Making it more of a predator-prey relationship than outright murder.
Life is tough, she knew it, kill or die
This is why Godzilla is the most aesthetic kong ever seen
We should impeach Godzilla!
poor girl she looked so cool ! i think she should’ve lived
Think about it; Godzilla couldn't waste any time. He needed to finish Tiamat quickly. So while on the outside, it seems that she was done dirty, it actually makes a lot of sense when you consider Godzilla's motives. Godzilla couldn't wait for Tiamat to submit or run away. So to him, it was submit right away or die. Godzilla didn't care either way. So that's why he attacked France and Spain to power up for that fight.
Tiamat deserved more... wish we couldve seen more of my new favorite Demi-Alpha
Dangerville can you make a video about people discussing and Adam too that we are confused if we are getting space Godzilla or destoryah because Adam said he wanted to focus on a destoryah and Godzilla film together
That’s my next video funnily enough.
People are mad because Godzilla beat the soul of Tiamat in a matter of seconds but if they read the comics they would know why.
Bruh, Tiamat was a destroyer like Scylla. They would've have preferred Ghidorah be the alpha so they can destroy shit & wreak general mayhem. And why do you think Tiamat was at that particular place? You think she chose that lair because it was in a good neighborhood? Nah, she wanted that power same as Godzilla. She wanted it for the same reason Scylla was attacking nuclear power plants & absorbing the radiation. She was going to square up with the G-Man.
Not really. Tiamat, from what the Novel and Dominion says, was in that place to sleep and hibernate in, per Godzilla’s orders( which she and Scylla obliged to).
For Scylla, it was one of 2 theories by Bernie that she was getting ready to fight Godzilla, the other theory being her reproducing.
Scylla is weird. She somewhat deserves and somewhat doesn’t. In fact the destruction she caused could have been avoided if Godzilla made her go to a more radioactive place to feed and sleep. She is basically starving when she woke up in 2019 and when Godzilla fought her in Dominion. After Godzilla beat her and made her runaway, she was forced to go to Antártica, allowing her to cool the polar icecaps, before Godzilla orders all the titans to hibernate. Scylla does that, but she would later wake up by the Titan Hunter, and since Titans lose energy while hibernating if they aren’t in a radioactive source, Scylla was probably more starved than ever. Scylla could be trying to reproduce in order to save herself or fight Godzilla for alpha (Probably because she can’t take Godzilla’s rule anymore)
Also Na Kika, the titan Godzilla saved in Dominion, is a destroyer, yet Godzilla saved her. Shouldn’t Godzilla have killed her, since according to you about destroyers, she would have preferred Ghidorah as alpha and would have been a future threat?
@@juliopastor6735 Godzilla gives all titans a chance. Even Tiamat got a warning shot. She chose to fight instead of going somewhere else.
Destroyer Titans like Camazotz, Na Kika & Amhuluk are tolerated because they've either steered clear of Godzilla, made clear they were not a threat to him, or in Amhuluk's case bowed when he realized how his big dog moves got his puppy dog ass in trouble. He even made a move on Godzilla but was allowed to live.
In conclusion, Tiamat was a victim of her own ambitions & desires & Godzilla is not becoming Ghidorah v2.
@@HillbillyDeLucks Godzilla would have killed Camazotz, Camazotz is unknown to be alive because Kong sent him back to the Hollow Earth with a blow
@@HillbillyDeLucks I never said Godzilla was becoming Ghidorah 2.0. But Godzilla could have handled Tiamat differently. And besides, Godzilla’s warning shot, even if you put it in context, seems less like a warning shot and more like Godzilla calling Tiamat to fight. It’s basically the equivalent of someone doing a drive-by on a person’s house and then telling them to leave their house because they want your food that you have stored there. Like no normal, no person, or titan, would leave and backdown from that. They are fighting back. It puts Godzilla in a bad light. Since he killed a titan that was basically obeying him until he provoked that titan to disobeying him by his own actions.
I remember being shocked seeing Tiamat in GxK as I remember reading Godzilla Dominion back in 2021
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Maybe there's more taimats
Tiamat is an absolute BADDIE, a serpentine LIZZO who needs more love, MY GUY!!!
Tiamat was so done dirty in this film. Like imagine if Scar king survived the end of this film and then in the next one he just got one shot by Godzilla's atomic breath. That would be so stupid.
Absolutely wasted
You could make a argument that Tiamate could have ran away and just let Godzilla have the lair as she would know Godzilla is the more powerful between the two of them given Godzilla sheer power as a weaker Godzilla forced her to retreat.
The smarter move for Tiamate was to run and find somewhere else.
Godzilla needed that lair since in his mind he will be facing skar king,Shimo,and his ape army by himself. Which is understandable if I was facing thoses overwhelming odds I would want to become more powerful too.
Godzilla: pay tax RN lady
Tiamat: NO,
*TIAMAT PROCEEDS TO FIGHT*
*TIAMAAT INSTANTLY DIED
Godzilla: i told you gotta pay
I want a Destroy All Monsters remake and have Godzilla kill all the titans and humans because he's tired of being earth's babysitter. Yes, that's toxic and ignorant, but idc. 😈😈😈😈😈
I think they threw Tiamat, a wonderful, unique, and very interesting titan, away way too fast. Hopefully, if any of the other titans that appear in the books or comics, like Amhuluk, Quetzalcoatl, Na Kika, or Mokelem Mbembe, make it to the movies, that they don't kill them right away.
I have mixed feelings about Tiamat’s appearance and death in New Empire. On the one hand, it was really surprising to see a kaiju from the graphic novels make it in a movie. Her design was just amazing to look at, and her personality portrayal was great. On the other hand, I’m also disappointed that Tiamat was killed as I really liked her design. As she had a majestic god like serpent look to her, plus she was one of the few kaiju to challenge Godzilla and give him a good fight. Plus she has interesting lore behind her, as she killed the Great Ape that drove Godzilla from his own home. So that showed that she was a very formidable kaiju. One that can be deemed as a threat to alpha species. I also agree that the fight between her and Godzilla should’ve been longer. I know in Dominion, Tiamat caught Godzilla off guard. Plus he wasn’t even close to full strength/ power. But to fight Godzilla at this point in his life. And not only survive, but also could’ve killed him. That was quite the achievement. But back to NE, considering the fact that Tiamat evolved into a deadlier/more powerful form. She should’ve put at least a slightly better fight than she did (despite the fact that Godzilla was supercharged). Nevertheless, I still enjoyed the fight between the two. And at least it showed that she is still better fighter in aquatic environments. Though Godzilla is still stronger and still managed to wound her before using his breath. And like Jacob I do think her death was pretty cool to watch. Especially since this is the first time we’ve Godzilla’s breath slice someone up in this universe.
Edit:noticed some mistypes.
She was wrapped around godzillas jaws how did godzilla open his mouth to fire the beam
In the novelization, he does a pulse to free himself and then uses the atomic breath
@lassenker07 in the book not the film
When the world is in danger. Godzilla will do, what has to do, to save the planet. Tiamuts sacrifice was necessary (RIP).
I didn't like that Godzilla killed Scylla or Tiamat. Scylla was my favorite side-Titan in King of the Monsters. I loved her design and her role in the ecosystem. So I was really sad-faced when Godzilla killed her like that. I get that it was because she was trying to become the alpha and that might have had bad consequences for humanity, but I still can't agree with the filmmakers' decision. The same can be said for Tiamat. She wasn't one of my favorite Titans, but she really was just defending her territory. I feel that the filmmakers forgot that Godzilla is the Alpha Titan, which means he protects the balance of nature and looks after the Titans. Scylla literally stops the oceans from rising and flooding coastal areas. Now that she's dead, what will happen to our oceans? I don't like it when a movie does something like this.
I really liked Tiamat and Scylla, i think they were both very interesting and new monsters we hadn't seen before. So i was pretty bummed to see them both get offed so unceremoniously. But maybe it'll be revealed that Tiamat had an offspring or something? Maybe a way to introduce MV Manda if they wanted? Idk I'm not huge on killing MV originals to replace them with Toho monsters.
I was so extremely happy to see Tiamat in Monsterverse live action!😁😁😁Her demise was a little undignified, but I was just happy to see her.
Tiamat was kinda overlooked by the movie. The humans talking about her made her sound like she’s this badass alpha titan of the North Pole and has control of this super powerful energy source. Then Godzilla arrives and that’s it… that was Tiamat. Goodbye.
If she’s supposed to feel strong and like an obstacle/adversary for Godzilla, at least show some destruction being done by her. Even if she’s just there for the sake of getting killed off to make Godzilla seem more like a badass, the monster needs more introduction. It’s such a cool creature design gone to waste. Hopefully we’ll have an extended cut of some sort that will show more of Tiamat and the other titans
This movie had serious pacing problems and didn’t execute correctly during big moments.. I doubt many rewatch it all
👍🏾yes I agree with you every word. Tiamat. Looks awesome and I would have liked to see her again. Why are they killing the girl’s. Battle yes killing no 🙋🏾♀️❤
Are we seeing Godzilla get the Bayverse Optimus Prime treatment? What if this singled out murder was just a small crack in the Big G’s overall rule as king. What if he’s actually a very aggressive ruler who takes the slightest push as an act of war and brutally murders the kaiju? What do you think?
I just love how everyone is saying that "Tiamat is an evil kaiju that deserved to die", we never see her do any bad thing, also disobeying Godzilla doesn't mean Evil, Kong also Disobeys Godzilla, then Is he Evil? No
This shows that similar to Henry Cavills Superman (who is a borderline villain in all of Snyders movies to be honest, and with being the most powerful being in the universe which he is, it is inevitable that he will do a lot of collateral damage), Godzilla is not an all around good guy. He will ultimately only think about himself and is very arrogant and some times unnecessary cruel. Matter of fact, he carries on like the street gangs of Los Angeles or my hometown Stockholm who will just turn up at your bedroom with an assault rifle because they need something from you.
Tiamat got a raw deal, and her design wasn't given justice either. In the comics, Tiamat had a unique and distinctive design that set her apart. However, in the movie, she just looks like a discount Manda. I know that the Titan designs in the comics aren't always one-to-one with the films, but I wish they had stayed closer to her original comic design.
*Godzilla pulls up to Tiamat's domain*
Godzilla: You have something i want.
Tiamat: Ah shit, here we go again.
Personally I feel as though Tiamat was wasted and it does seem like every titan who has been classified as a Destroyer is an excuse for Godzilla to have fodder. If the script for the film had Amhuluk instead of Tiamat, I would understand. Simultaneously there's this trend that has been a thing where almost every Serpentine monster appears and the writers are like "Kill it with Fire!". As nice as it was seeing Warbats again, Tiamat feels like a one of a kind that we will never see on screen again and it's sad.