The CAR WIZARD shares the top HONDA's TO Buy & NOT to Buy!
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Taking from his years of experience working on cars the CAR WIZARD 🧙♂️ shares the top Honda's TO buy and NOT to buy!
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Should be noted that the transmission issues are pretty much secluded to automatic transmissions. Honda makes some of the best standard transmissions on the market.
This.
No they don't. I've driven manual trans. Hondas for decades and never had a very good one. They were all quite flawed. The last Honda I drove was 10th gen Civic and the 6M was notchy with pronounced rev hang. The two Mazdas I owned had superb manual transmissions. It was my poor experience with manual Honda transmissions that led me to buy an automatic Acura RSX which, ironically, is fabulous. I have 210,000 trouble-free miles on it. The 6M RSXs were plagued with transmission problems.
Lol so wrong not even funny firend of my drive a 96 accord auto no problem at all he drives it in the winter time in the summer time he's got a Honda Prelude 5-speed and the transmission just blew up on the prelude last year Honda Accord has 462000 km and transmission is perfectly fine it's the way you maintain the transmission
They sure do, when they aren't losing synchros or popping out of gear.
Mainly v6s tho.
I found it strange that he recommended buying a Ferrari instead of nsx in a video that talks exclusively about reliability
Ferrari has that need to burn.
Very good point. Although I think he has strayed in previous videos on car looks in the past. NSX ushered in an era of more reliable sports cars by being a great example.
Honda never made a sport car in Wizard's opinion...
V.S.K.A lol exactly. Any Ferrari you buy will costs you way more the repair than any Honda. Especially one under 40k
@@Pufulets I did not understand what he meant by "Honda sports cars have no soul", from what I understood for him the "soul" of the car is in the sound of the engine, which to me makes no sense, wanted to see if he would confuse an nsx with an odyssey on a track even with his eyes closed
When our 2006 Honda Civic was purchased it only had 7 miles on it. I still drive it with 285,000 miles. Runs pretty good.
Yeah but typically civic's are run into the ground and not well maintained so the transmissions go out due to lack of care and young kids just driving off without letting it warm flooring it 5 seconds into starting it yk
@@scrapgamingx1942 bro my civic was running with no oil. theyll be fine
@@lv1543 great for you
My 2005 Honda CRV has 291,000 miles and I commute 32 miles each way to work 5 days a week. Best car I ever owned!
It just depends. Sometimes you get lucky. My Si didn’t have the recall for the cracked block cause they used the 2.0L K motor instead of the R18. I do know all 8th gen’s have the passenger motor mount go bad very early on due to the design of it
As far as the 8th generation Accords go (2008-12), the majority of transmission issues occurred with the V6 models. The 4 cylinder models are very reliable.
I really want an 08 accord its in my budget. So 4 cylinder? And no tranny issues?
man i was in the market for a 08-12 accord v6
If the transmission was maintained and taken care of, there shouldn't be as many problems compared to a V6 linked to an automatic.
That's a relief to hear
Yeah my mom got a 11 accord 4 cylinder with 170k km and tranny shifts perfect.
Wizard: it has no soul
Honda Del sol: am i a joke to you
Del Sol means "Of The Sun"
@@StaticImage i am aware
"Delete Soul" - FTFY
How about a Kia Soul then?
@@davidgalinat4257 I have a KIA Soul. I've gained attention in a group by making a reference to my Soul. People stop talking to one another and look at me. They're thinking spiritual as other than church most people never make that reference. It sounds very strange hearing someone say their Soul needs gas, tires, vacuuming, etcetera.
I don't absolutely love the S2000, but that's got to be one of the best manual transmissions made in the last several decades
One of the best driving car ever.. Like they're extremely fun to drive. But again he was clear it's his opinion and is entitled to have one.
The S2K don't go down in price.. Easy to fix and mod.. And the Chassis is great.
The Ap1 has the issue with gearbox grinding. The Ap2 is better.
@@barron204 Exactly, Ap1 buyers were asking for trouble.
Arguably the best transmission put in a car ever.
Definitely..
My friend bought an 04 in 2005 had 15k on it for $25k.. sold it last year 2019. With 320,000 on it.. one soft top replacement. A Leaky fuel injector at 280k. A few 12v batteries, and one clutch at 250k.
Still had all original suspension.
Sold it for $4k I think..
Pretty solid machine.
He took care of it . Drove it but did not beat it.
2005 Odyssey 207k still going strong, it’s all about maintenance, if you take care of your car it will take care of you.
Trans fluid change every 30 k honda fluid
Oil 3-4k synthetic.
Got it new in 05, only issues ac 3 rd ac compressor, but everything else has been good.
Thank you
I had a 2001 civic that had 300k plus miles on it when I sold it and I had no issues with it. I got lucky because you are spot on about those cars. I've got a 2012 Accord sitting in my driveway right now...you are correct with the brakes. The right rear brake has given me fits! I just replaced the rear caliper hoping it doesn't give me any more issues. Other than the right rear, it's been a fabulous car.
“Get this Ferrari instead” ..*points at Ferrari that has been in the shop for the last 6 months*
Said "get A Ferrari ", not "this Ferrari " lol
🤣😅😂
I'd rather own a Ferrari sitting in the shop than driving a Honda any day.
@@rudfil and why’s that? So you can burn a hole in ur pocket and take the bus ?
@@rudfil I'd rather walk, ride a bike, or take the bus than drive a Ferrari. Car Wizard always makes it clear we're talking about cars that the average person (99% of the world) can buy, not the 1%.
Are you honestly suggesting a person with 30 grand to buy a sports car should buy a busted old Ferrari. You’re dangerously close to having your wizard card revoked.
Are you honestly suggestin a person with 30 grand to buy a barely holding on ``sports honda``. You`re dangerously close to having your own opinion on things. Curb your self importance
klenner Taking some liberties with the assumptions, buddy. Didn’t give an opinion on what car is better than a busted old Ferrari, but it doesn’t take a car wizard to know that’s a poor decision for someone on a budget. Cool comment, though. Now, fuck off back to moms basement.
Good luck finding a NSX for $30k that isn't a total wreck.
fuckin get a civic si for 30k
@@mrjohnnyk Good luck driving a ferrari for more than 100 miles without issues
A would've mentioned the VCM (Variable Cylinder Management) oil burning issues on many of the 3.5L V6 from 2008-2013. There was millions of cars involved in that lawsuit.
I kept having an issue with the VCM in my wife's 2008 V6 Accord during highway driving and the check engine light coming up after about 5 minutes. Started happening around 190,000 miles. I solved that problem with a VCM-Controller (about a hundred bucks 3rd party) and installed in about ten minutes a couple of years ago that simply kept the six cylinders engaged. No problems after that. What was weird is that unlike the thousands of others you mentioned, never had a problem with oil burning - just the check engine light which made the vehicle idle rough until the car cooled. Did notice a little drop in highway gas mileage after the controller was installed. I mention that because I was always surprised Honda didn't offer something like that to its customer base. Thank God for UA-cam videos like this or I would be in the crazed market looking for another vehicle.
Yeah I remember those transmission issues. A lot around 98-mid 2000s.
I remember having Honda replacing a transmission OUTSIDE warranty at only 42k miles because they stated it was not designed to work that way.
Nice of them to step up.
Seemed like it was mostly V6s.
You’re severely misinformed on the sports car segment.
Severely.
The NSX uses a C30 or C32 V6. This is a motor that is unique to the NSX. It was a 90 degree V6 block, has true dohc heads and titanium connecting rods. A far cry from the j series sohc 60 degree V6. That’s why nothing from the motors are interchangeable.
The s2000 uses a F20c or F22c this is an engine block that again is unique only to the s2000. This motor was developed from the earlier H series block and was never offered in any civic.
Also how are you going to recommend a Ferrari 355 a car notorious for maintenance and reliability issues? Where the NSX will keep on trucking? Performances between these two cars are quite similar as well. There’s a reason why NSX prices are about on par as used 355 models.
And you can’t tell the difference between a sports car whose development was influenced by Senna and a Minivan? So the tight steering input, sharp handling, great road manners, gets lost on you? I am starting to think you never been in this car. Or your driving skills are inversely proportional to your mechanical skills.
Hoovie had an NSX that the Wizard worked on, he was probably put off by all of hoovies awful choices and having to work on an absolutely shagged out NSX
Phil Atkins
I remember, but you’d think any mechanic would know that you can’t judge an entire model brand. If the example you’re working on. Has a worn trailer arm bushings, with alignment way off. And is overall in a condition of disrepair.
A Ferrari would also drive like crap if you don’t maintain at all. And it would experience drivability issues much sooner than the NSX.
I remember that NSX that car was completely neglected.
He's a guy that lets branding and preconceptions rule over factual information. Too bad it occurs so frequently these days.
You can tell by his focus on automatics he has no place talking about the "feel" of a sports car.
Jarl Nieminen Even then Acura autos in the Legend coupes, CL Coupes, and Acura TL autos all with V6's haul butt and scream perfectly. They dont rupetty rump rump like the Mustang V8 or Camaros but I would rather hear the V6 Honda scream and get up there quicker. Hondas have much more power per liter because they flow better.
Wrong about s2000. I’m not even a Honda fan and I can recognize that it’s the epitome of a sports car.
Yeah, he's what saying here is that a "sports" car is NOT just any 2 seater type of car, but that it also has to sound like one, and therefore has to have a "real" sports car engine, too-but that IS subjective. Honda S2000 vs. ANY Ferrari is not a good comparison, as that Honda was obtainable by normal folks to buy, own, and continue to enjoy with minimal maintenance (in general). While the Ferrari is an "exotic", rich man's car which needs continual expensive maintenance (in general) to keep it on the road. It's not very practical for everyday folks to own and drive in either given the car's fragility, attention grabbing styling, dealership/maintenance access issues ($500 to $1000 oil changes!), and overall demeanor of a mid-engined car. It makes no sense to me for him to compare them together.
Believe231 yeah seriously. The s2000 is literally the definition of a sports car. Rear wheel drive, manual, 2 seater/roadster, 50/50 or near 50/50 distribution, with a high revving motor(usually some or all forged internals from the factory, reduced weight, with upgraded suspension, brakes, and wheels. He’s attempting to categorize exotic or supercar to be the only definition of a sports car, which is wrong and purely subjective and blatantly/willfully being ignorant with set definitions/categories in place.
@@Believe231 Have you heard a S2000? It doesn't sound like some simple d series Honda or hell even a Si. It's 3x the beast of any Honda its time besides the NSX
I discovered civilization? I discovered s2000*
JDM is awful
Love the channel and all the incredible info you walk us thru while going over these vehicles. Since this is a few years old now, I'm curious as to your thoughts on newer model Pilots - from the teens on up. Do you still see the same issues? Thank ya in advance and keep the vids coming!
Bro said don't get these cars they are unreliable then said get a Ferrari for 40k lmao
Crack rocks
"If you're looking for a sports car in the 30-40k range, get a Ferrari."
*Laughs in Scotty Kilmer*
You forgot to say "you're stupid"
Yeah not getting the Honda hate from this guy.
I think he has a thing for ricers...
Same
@@markf5314 At least he warned us it WAS just his opinion. 😉 But yeah...I'm no fan of Toyota myself, since the topic of "bland" and "boring" was brought up. Still, for my kiddo, I'm looking at cars to replace an Accord; while I prefer the Hondas (and own Honda-specific tools, and know how to work on them), I am still considering Camry or Corolla largely due to them being reliable appliances. She drives through a dangerous area to get to college (it's inner-city), and last thing I need is a breakdown...
@@-rudy- honestly Toyota's are no more reliable than any other car. They all break eventually. Think about it, you know hondas like the back of your hand. Find a 99 or other ek (i only say '99 for age). Just something d series. Then dig through the car and replace all the typical parts that go bad and preventative maintenance, main relay, dizzy, plugs, wires, timing belt, water pump, oil pump, etc. They are unkillable. Slow as hell and sound like shit but they run and run and run.
Buy a Honda with a clutch and live happily ever after.
Manual transmission Honda’s may very well be the most reliable vehicles ever produced. Especially since Toyota decided to stop building manual transmission automobiles. A 89-97 manual transmission Corolla was the pinnacle of reliability.
Except for the new Type-R Civic where manual gearbox is total crap!
@@prevost8686 the corolla hatch and sedan are both still offered with a manual transmission to this day, so is the yaris.
that would put a $100 per hour industry in bankruptcy ....
Sadly reliable until the grinding in third gear 😔
I commute in a 2004 civic coupe, it was my wife's first car in 2005 and has 197,500 miles. Our family vehicle is a 2008 odyssey with 198,300 miles. I drain and fill the transmission fluid every 3 years and oil changes every fall/spring. Have to top off the odyssey oil after 3000 miles or so because it has the cylinder deactivation system and it burns hotter from switching, but never had a problem as it is always consistent. We don't run them rough and don't have a tow package on the odyssey so no extra stress on the transmission. Just going to keep maintaining them and let them run until the transmission finally goes or an engine.
we have a 2005 honda odyssey with 210k miles.still shifiting smooth, swiched over to synthetic transmission oil and added an additional transmission cooler back in 2010 when I heard about transmission issues with hondas. only things i needed to change were brakes, recently schocks, timing belt/spark plugs at 155k. one of the most reliable vehicles to us ever
You got lucky.
I got a 2006 with a changed trans and a 2 year guarantee on it.
I got lucky
Just what I needed, a $30K Ferrari which the engine has to be dropped to replace the clutch at a cost of $25K.
I think u would be an average joe and just admire a Ferrari as it drives by just like myself.
Exactly, that's the joy of owning really any European car of that calibre. I believe Ferrucio Lamborghini put it best himself when he said "Expect the unexpected."
I hate to say it, if the wannabes don't have the💲💰💰💰💰 please keep it your dreams. Don't make it into reality or you be mighty HURT 💔.
@@loktom4068 yeah or u can get a Japanese sports car that with work can keep up, if not gap a euro car.
You absolutely don’t know Ferraris to say that. So that’s your opinion... but a clutch job on most of mid engined Ferraris is a joke in comparison to many cars. On 308, 328, 348, testarossas, mondials etc.. you don’t have to remove the engine or the gearbox to make the clutch job, if you know the car, it couldn’t take you more than 3hrs to do it.. on a 308/328, the clutch kit costs about $400 + few o rings and a bit of oil and sealant... + 4-5 hours of labour... so where are the 25k ?
Honda repair vs Ferrari repair? I'll take the Honda all day
The Honda sports car may have no Soul. But if you own a Ferrari for the same time you own a Honda. You will die a broke Soul.
Wizard is right. The Ferrari was BORN from the DNA of race cars! 🏎
i dont think, he meant it as quality issue and cost, there is relationship between the driver and machine, its how it makes you feel, i have to agree with the Wizard, Japanese cars had always had this feeling like an appliance stigma.
@@OMAR6575 agreed. The cars are good, but boring and uninspiring to even look at.
I respect Honda
@@jaybee2344 are we all just gonna forget how big honda is in racing.
Changed transmission fluid every year in my old Honda. It never failed.
I took your recommendation and bought a 2013 Honda Odyssey EX-L, and so far so good 4000 miles later! They had paint peeling problems on white and silver models from this model year, and because of that I was able to score mine for only $7000. Examples with clean paint and a few less miles were selling for $16k in my area at the time, and the paint work will only cost $800 max. First car in my life that I simply don't have to worry about because it gets me there without any trouble, and is very cheap to maintain. Thanks Car Wizard!
It has a timing belt, FYI
@@DkpProductionsyeah thats a pain but not expensive to DIY. They drive so much better than the competition its worth it
@@batvette not only are you supposed to change the timing belt but the water pump and the tensioner at the same time that is not a fun job and that is not an easy job
FYI: most of the transmission issues in Hondas have to do with automatic+V6 engines. Get a four cylinder Honda (preferably with a manual) instead.
not true.
Ok hondas. I had one but the toyota supras we own back in the day made us the most popular young dudes out. Gangs use to hate us alote. Still my 2 toyota supras 1 modied one was red with a dragon & the other white both Had turbo. It would've beat this guus Ferrari. I wouldve smoke him. I press my turbo button. It had turbo. Fact bo opinion. Hmm where did i see that before. Oh yeah Fast and the furios. Paul and vin diesel smoked sime rich old white guy in a Ferrari
@@JohnDoe-pf3ue toyota supras with turbo are racing cars
Or a v6 with a manual
@@JohnDoe-pf3ue yeah
The F20C and F22C motor in the S2000 are not "hopped up" Honda Civic motors in any sense. The C30 and C32 in the NSXs are not Odyssey motors either. The S2000 has more soul than most cars on sale today and is one of the best pure sports cars ever made. Wizard is completely clueless here and its a bit surprising someone that knowledgeable about cars is preaching this nonsense.
This video like he said was his opinion albeit a very biased one lol. I mean Honda's typically don't pay his bills, so what's to like lol.
@@DaNiElLl430 I can't even entertain an opinion that's based on incorrect information.
@@tranc3porter determining it having soul is an opinion
No way in hell his ass ever fit inside an S2000 long enough to understand it...
@@MrCarGuy 🤣🤣🤣
And that's a fact. Not an opinion. 😂👍
Thanks for your thoughts Wiz. My 93 Civic EX 5spd never made it to your list and I wonder what you think of a second-owner car with 160k? Runs very well, mostly. Should it be kept or sold?
I've had an 06' civic since 2009 and I've had a good run with it. Very reliable and stylish. I would recommend one.
you must have been lucky and didn't have a cracked engine block but many did in 06
I’ve got one also, I bought mine a couple years ago with 150,000 miles, it now has 225,000 miles & still running strong, I religiously keep up with the maintenance.
When you're stuck on the shoulder of the highway, you know you have a genuine sports car
I bought the S2000 when it first came out and loved that car. I now have a Ferrari 360 Spider and love it too. But to say the S2000 doesn't have soul, I can't agree with that. It was and still is a great sports car. They have also held their value.
I kind of agree with the wizard. The s2000 is fun but lacks character. It's very much an appliance compared to anything else in it's segment. I think that's the point. Compared to other cars off it's ilk, the s2000 is bland. As compared to a Camry, it's epic.
Wizard is wrong about about Honda sports cars. It’s hard to find their soul when your just test driving them.
The driver is the character
I dont really get this one. S2000 can be a really fast car, it aint no Ferrari, but it is a sporty car no noubt. Never owned one myself, but I get lapped by them at the track.
@@pirihern9329 the s2000 just doesn't sing to me. I find it's styling handsome but understated, maybe too restrained. Like an Audi with a flat eyebrow. It's like it's purpose is to start everyday and fun is an afterthought. The drive is meh unless you're on a track. While you account be racing on the street, a spirited drive is perfectly reasonable given certain conditions and I can think of other roadsters I would drive before this. I doubt they would be as reliable, but they certainly would be more entertaining. Just for me though. S2k Fanboys will hate. I respect that. My opinion applies to me.
For the 2008-2012, I heard that brake issues were prevalent in the V6 versions, i.e. more speed, more power=more pressure on the brakes. I bought a used 2010 Accord EX 2.4l, 4cyl with 80,000 miles, automatic transmission. So far so good. No issues. I also heard that Honda is having problems with their V6 Variable Cylinder Management in all models. I would avoid them altogether.
I am thinking about buying a Honda Fit 2009-2016 range. Are these transmissions problematic for these years? How are the CVT transmissions, automatic transmissions, and standard transmissions?
Mechanics dont like hondas because they dont have to fix them ...
Me: I think il get a honda
My mechanic: no no no you need a Ferrari! I enjoy our time together :3$$$
🙌🏽🙌🏽
He didn't say BUY A FERRARI BECAUSE ITS MORE RELIABLE
He said buy a ferrari, its cheaper than the NSX and its more fun
[As we all know Ferrari reliability is questionable]
Hondas are never ending money pits especially the 2.4 junk
@@dennisthemenace8854 says only you. Tell me what has gone wrong with your 2000 dollar 300k mile 2.4 accord or crv that was sooo expensive 😂 because iv had them, my friends have had them, my family has had them and most still have those 20 yo cars in middle of the rust belt mind you. Tell me? Also tell me what "better cars" don't experience the same issue? 🤡
Easier to maintain S2000 then any Ferrari ever created 🤣🤦🏿♂️ love you wizard but naw I'm good on the Ferrari I reather have my two Honda's and a house
Unless you're wealthy like the wizard and Hoovi
Well you RATHER have two hondas...but those with ferrari’s can afford a good english teacher to teach them to spell 😉
@@iiyapimpdaddy1791 lmao it's UA-cam man not a job interview
IIya PimpDaddy they could probably open up a school too
The new type r would probably outlast that Ferrari 10x as long😂
4:00 I bought a 13 Accord yesterday with the k24 and cvt, this thing is an animal. Came with a kn intake and magnaflow exhaust, such an awesome car. A manual would be nice but this cvt has proved to be smooth and way nicer than I expected
how much
I've had K24 engines in my Accord's and Element and not problems at all with hundreds of thousands of miles on all of them.
Excellent review. Thank you for the video and info. Blessings to you.
Love you Wizard, but have to disagree on the s2000.
The crazy high revving engine (especially in the ap1) and the amazingly precise transmission make for a very unique driving experience.
There’s a reason they have such a following, and you see so many former owners coming back after experimenting with more powerful and/or exotic cars.
Exactly. I don't see an odyssey reving to 9k. But when you want to cruise. Its civilized. Like modern super cars. Although I hate the looks of the 199X NSX without the pop-up headlights
Here’s my take on what the wizard said. The ford raptor shares the same v6 block as the ford gt so does that not make it a sports car? Or how lotus uses supercharged Camry engines in their cars. So does that not make it a sports car because lotus uses Camry engines? See what I’m saying?
for him "sportscars " have to cost billions and are still pos s, decades ago races were won by fiat 500s and minis
Tom Aiger it’s funny because the original nsx was faster than the latest Ferrari at the time of its release
The ap1 is the only acceptable arguement against Wizard.. everything else he said was true Honda had its hay day in the 90's early 2000's as far as im concerned.
When I hear an NSX. I hear an oddesy.
When I hear a lambo. I hear an Audi Q3
When I hear a pagani. I hear a Mercedes Vito
When I hear a Ferrari. I am calling tony to get the fire extinguisher for his fiat.
When I hear a Bentley, rolls royce or BMW. I'm surprised its not at the mechanic.
When I hear an aston martin. A james bond tune starts playing in my head for the rest of the day.
When I hear a BAC mono. I hear a Ford Galaxy.
When I hear a Masarati. I hear an expensive Alfa Romeo. Which is not bad tbh.
When I hear a Mustang or a viper. I think of my shady friend driving a 90s black chevy van.
When I hear a bias, I know it. These are all great cars. Peace out.
E N D L E S S M O N E Y P I T S
nailed it
Dude the NSX has never been a great sounding car get over it.
V6 engines sound like crap
When I hear Ferrari, I hear Fiat with good exhaust. Or just Maserati/Alfa Romeo. But with 30% + price tag, just because of "historical racing heritage". (The Germans LOVE to do that, too)
Respect your experience and love your show! 👍
I appreciate this kind of useful material here. Thank Wizard!!
That's why you get a Honda with a manual transmission.
Good luck finding one on the lot. Be prepared to order one and wait AND pay more than their “package” models.
@@prevost8686 fools buy brand new.
@@vadimnesen8060 Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Take a shot every time car wizard says... “transmission problems”
OG Roshi You may end up with alcohol poisoning if you try that. I played a game of “Take a shot every time someone swears” on the movie “Superbad”. That was a messy night.
Did that three days ago, and i just got out of coma. 200 lbs nurse said i was a naughty boy
That's a very valuable info nowadays, thanks buddy!
In other words , your car will stay running good if you maintain it well for years
Lol recommends the Ferrari 348 when the NSX was the car that forced ferrari to make the 355
NSX is good if body repairs are never needed
Yeah lots of misinformation in this video
Exactly. And even though the 355 is my fav Ferrari, it still isnt as good as NSX.
Exactly
@@scottferguson3842 .......In other news, there's a 2003 Honda Odyssey in New Jersey that just clicked over to 170,000 on the original transmission....... I'm a fu€king 🧙🏼♂️ now.
So that’s why the s2000 made more hp per liter then Ferrari till 2010, By a company that makes commuter vehicles, hold that L
S2k gang‼️‼️‼️
Don't forget about the teg type R (b18c1) being one of the first or first 4 cylinders to have 100 hp per litre of displacement!!!
@@jaybizzle4208 It was one of the first cars with from honda to do that. Not the first 4 cylinder. Sportbike 4 cylinders got that catagory fam. I have extracted 201 HP from a 1000cc aka 1.0 liter N/A sportbike engine.
I have a 2018 Honda Accord 2.0T Sport. It's pretty darn sporty I've run 13.9 at 101 mph. Quarter mile about a year ago at a local track. Test and tune
Horsepower per liter doesn’t mean anything if it’s still slow. It’s a great car still
Great video. Thanks for sharing your experience , once again.
Great video. Had a question. I was looking into purchasing 2018 Acura mdx with advanced package 90K . Documents records for service from Acura dealer. What are future major repair intervals that i should be ready for? Any know issues for that year? Smart buy? Was planning on keeping it at least til 200k if i can.
Thanks for feedback
03-07 accords with the 4 cylinder engines are good. It was the v6 one's that had transmission issues. The 4 cylinder ones are bullet proof.
Worked for honda for a decade. I concur.
@Deez Nuts sounds like it but with atf fluid changes every 10k you would be okay.
@@m.a.omarkhail8294 that's a waste of money to change it every 10,000
@@ONeal397 I get them on whole sale for 20 bucks for 3 bottles. That isn't much money in comparison to replacing a transmission. I can do it in my garage in 15 minutes.
@@m.a.omarkhail8294 genuine Honda ATF? Where do you find that
s2000 and NSX are AWESOME!
I love this series of
“by and not to buy”
You are a saver
Thanks you
the S2000 and NSX are one of the best stock cars ever made for track . wtf is this dude talk about
The s2000 is one amazing car. prices goes up as time goes by.
The reason is the Fast and the Furious
As if Ferrari’s aren’t pieces of crap that require constant maintenance.
S2000 was amazing 30 years ago. Now it's a fun throwback that is too expensive to mess around with parking lots and gravel roads.
@@LarsonChristopher 30 years ago?! u mean 20 years ago?!
S2000’s are sooooo siiiick. The S200 was such a beast . Idk man . Honda’s are very fun to drive . Light weight. Like go carts .
Paraphrase: avoid first model years and the 5 speed auto.
Also, every J series V6 still has a timing belt
every j series has a timing belt, period
and they're all interference engines
*-Except for the J30A1-*
J series = timing belt...I caught that gaffe also.
Better than timing chain
Dammit, my current Honda has the 5 speed, what's wrong with that transmission?
Also, the 1998-2002 Accord V6, the 4 speed is absolute dog crap.
I had a 2006 Civic with a cracked engine block with only 52K miles. Honda replaced it for free out of warranty after I wrote them a letter. Does your negative comment on the transmission applies to the manual?
Good video. We own a 2007 Odyssey which has been trouble free and a 2007 Accord which has likewise been trouble free. The Accord has over 240,000 miles at this point. Odyssey is sitting at 163,000.
Coffee can exhaust? Don't you mean fart can exhaust?
People in Kansas literally used to put coffee cans on the end of tail pipes in the late 90s early 2000s. Wichita is a strange place.
@@ninjanerdbjjandfitness9544 not just Kansas, that used to be the "ghetto" fix for a muffler everywhere. Ahh makes me feel old remembering about it.
Davidson Mott How old are you?
you sun ofa btch not all hondas have cans >:(
You start the video by recommending and avoiding cars based on reliability. But when you get to the sports car section none of your opinions were about the reliability. Just opinions about what makes a sports car a sports car.
I own a 2002 Honda Civic Si. Over 180k miles on it. I love it. I’ll probably own it forever. Yeah the rally shifter is weird but besides that it’s a great car.
I like your opinions, I respect your knowledge and experiences, and this has been incredibly helpful. I wrote it all down cause I’m shopping for a Honda..
NSX has a hopped up minivan engine. Meanwhile Wizard's C4 has a hopped up truck engine
it's not a minivan engine, the only car that shares that engine is the acura legend and it's not even the same configuration
A truck engine from the 50's that is
He has a 4 cylinder ford escape with a land rover badge too.
I'm a C4 Vette owner but there's truth in that.
@@D16Y8PWRexactly! Ppl without the knowledge spreading misinfo all around these comments
I was on board until you shat on the S2000.
People gonna be mad lol
I’m a loyal Honda technician and the S2000 isn’t all that. It just isn’t . As a matter of fact, since 1998 Honda as a whole isn’t all that. They really let their quality slip. Toyota has as well. It’s just a fact that the US market is filled with poor quality Asian nameplates.
He's completely wrong about the engines in the S2000 and the NSX as well. Both of them have engines unique to them, and aren't shared with Civics or Minivans. But of course he'll then go and praise a Corvette with a glorified truck engine.
@@prevost8686 take a look at any american junk from the 90s and on, they were even cheaper made and unreliable, i would rather have a car that is quality built and reliable.
if i remember correctly.. the s2000 has one of the best 2.0L engines around (still even today)
@@prevost8686 oh bullshit hondas are the best the crv 2010 i have runs still like new with zero problems and the civics will last forever
you didn’t even mention the prelude, it’s such a good car, i have a 93 prelude with a 5 speed manual and it’s the best car i’ve ever owned
90's manual Hondas are unbeatable.
I own a 2003 Civic with about 111,000 original KM on an auto transmission. If I do begin to have transmission issues, would you recommend selling it straightaway? I try to keep it well maintained. Any extra thoughts on the 2003 Civic DX auto transmission model?
No love for the Honda Fit? My 08 Fit has been an absolute joy to own.
The Fit is a great sub-compact hatchback, but they are too small.
@@md2k8 well not everyone needs a big car, especially if you live alone in a big city.
I have a 2012 with the 5 speed. Has been dead reliable since I bought it.
Lmao what's that?
@@markcastillo1934 a tiny, but zippy and reliable hatchback that I love
MANUAL.. MANUAL... MANUAL...
Forget the auto
You’re right for the most part about the 03-05 Pilot but with proper maintenance like my 2003 Pilot (which is at 316k miles as of this comment) is on the original motor and transmission (with no issues so far). Thank for the good info.
He's terribly wrong saying they switched from timing belts to timing chains on the Odyssey @7:55 Still timing belts.... Even the brand new redesigned 2023 3.5L engine is timing belt driven.
(I think he wants people to snap some belts 🤑 haha)
I have a 2002 manual civic, ran 250k and still going strong. I hope I wont experience transmission issues. It still works like day 1 so lets see
The honda odyssey always have a timing belt... All Honda v6 have a timing belt except for that fancy new nsx engine
Wait really I thought honda used timing chains on all their engines??? The older, mid 2000s, v6 that was in the v6 accord had a belt, but I thought all Hondas after that used chains.
Correct me if I'm wrong I could be spewing out my ass.
OK your correct. All the 4 cylinders have timing chains and the v6s have belts.
So if you have a k-series you have a chain so basically after 2003 for Accord and maybe after I want to say after 2006 for civic.
And, no Odyssey has anything but the 3.5 V6. Very disappointed in his lack of knowledge on this one.
my uncle had a 2008 Odyssey and it had a timing belt
We have a 2004 Honda Accord with a manual. Been a good one. Nearly 200k.
I've owned the Accord and Element with the same 2.4 liter engine that have been bulletproof other than replacing the starter and I will admit, replacing them is a PITA because you have to remove the intake manifold. Also owned older Civic's and first gen CR-V with no problems at all. However, they were all manual transmissions.
Honda Odysseys did not switch to timing chains in 2012. They have continued use of timing belts through the current model year.
I sure wish he would have edited this video, it's a very bad mistake to make when giving advice as an "Expert"
Agreed, yes they have belts and in my opinion it’s critical to get your belt switch out at 100k miles
Awesome info, I took notes for my next purchase, thanks
Wizard couldn't be more wrong on the NSX & S2000 and he wants us to spend $30k on a used Ferrari and then sell my house to maintain it??
Honda's do not pay his bills, of course he doesn't like them lol
Daniel S. Great point
@@DaNiElLl430 Hoovie owned an NSX once. So it payed his bills. He just got used to the sound of US and Italian cars. I dont blame him. If he drove the nsx high in the revs he might judge differently
@@tr33c21 Hoovie traded the nsx for the F355.....
ne2i Yea, where’s the Ferrari now 🤣🤣
Got a 2011 Civic sedan almost a year and a half ago, in January 2019. Favorite car I've ever had.
All my cars have been Hondas! Love them. My 1st was a used Accord & I ran that car long & hard. Gave it to my teenage nephew when I purchased a new 2002 CR-V, 5 speed. 20 years later & it's still running strong! Purchased a used 2007 Civic with auto transmission, in 2019 & it drove like a charm until the engine block cracked just 2 months ago! So yeah, stay away from the Honda Civic 2007 models also! Learned that model engine had a manufacturer defect with the cracked engine block, just like the 2006 you mentioned.. Contacted Honda & found out the recall on this issue was extended for 10 years. Unfortunately, the recall ended in 2017 so had to junk this one.
I noticed that the models with Honda's K-series engines are mostly untouched by this list (as best I can tell) the only related notes are on the CR-Vs transmission, but I wonder if this is directed at Honda's automatic transmissions as opposed to manuals since I've never heard of any issues with honda manuals outside of rebuilding for motorsports
Does your experience differ between manual or automatic transmissions?
20-40k budget for a sports car, forget about the S2000 that held a world record for engine output, get a cheap ferarri so you can go to his shop to spend money, lol
Held the record for a while until Ferarri had enough b.s from honda and created 458.
Still, that f20c is magic
splice247 my first thoughts exactly👍
Yeah, but it still is a pimped accord engine
@@heitorbernardes7977 no it's not accord has k24 s2000 has an f20 totally different
@@heitorbernardes7977 well in that sense Koenigsegg is a pimped corvette engine
Well, we all can agree that we all disagree with this one
Bruh I do
Lol!! Oh lord yes
Yeah they sure as hell did not move from belts to chains for 2012 odyssey’s wtf
car wizard, ever think of doing an all minivan video? which are worthwhile and which do you see with constant problems? thanks you're awesome man!
A question for you, Car Wizard. You mentioned the cracked engine block problem in the 06 Civic. That engine block problem actually appeared in the 06 to early 09 Civics. But you still recommended the 07, 08, and 09 Civics. Is that because the cracked block becomes less likely to happen in the later model years, after the 06? Based on your experience, of course. Thank you for any of your experience you can add. I just bought an early 09 Civic for my son, but now I'm realizing it is in the range where the block problem could show up and I'm wondering what my chances are.
Ferrari's do make more noise, that noise being it either breaking down constantly or it catching fire because its a "HOT" car. So in that regard hes right.
It helps to know what your talking about before talking about it...
Funny thing is Honda fanboys are usually the clueless ones.
Honda is that brand that when they get it right, its amazing but when they get it wrong, its catastrophic. I am a big fan of Honda but I keep track of the bad models, thanks for the great video!
Great video, as always, car wizard! Any opinions on the 2004 Civic EX Coupe?-John in Texas
I have owned a 2006 997.1 911 and currently own an 2006 S2000. They both put a smile on my face but for pure joy, I prefer the S2000! It’s just a joy to driven. The Porsche was also way too expensive to maintain. The S2000 has been bulletproof reliable. I was a bit worried about driving it on a 2000 mile trip; I shouldn’t have. It ran perfectly and was still just a blast to drive. I plan on keeping my S2000 forever. We all have our options and I certainly respect the Wizards, but for me, the S2000 offer a truly engaged and visceral driving experience, the way a sports car should.
You can't go wrong buying a car made in Japan. My brother-in-law owns a 2006 S2000. He has a large car collection.
I would agree. To say an S2k is like driving a minivan is insane😂
The 4 and 5 speed automatic problems are coupled with V6 engines. The trans can't handle the extra torque. The 4 cylinder models don't experience nearly the same issue. The Odyssey, being the heaviest vehicle, will have the most failure.
@@fcex558 so the wizard is just wrong huh
@@fcex558 9 speeds were sourced by ZF and as long as you regularly change transmission fluid you should be fine. I got an 03 accord v6 with 360K on the original transmission.
@@juanrobles3381 07 V6 accord ex sedan, 252k on my original as well. I’m the original owner and do the fluid drain and fill every 60k or so.
@@fcex558 I think he also thought the odyssey shared the same engine with the nsx.
It has nothing to do with the engine. I work for Honda and as others have said almost all the automatic transmission problems are due to a lack of proper maintenance. We recommend a trans fluid flush every 40k. We've got multiple cars with well over 200k miles and no trans problems because they do the scheduled maintenance.
Bought a used 2010 crosstour EX-L a few years ago, and has easily been the best car purchase I've ever made. Stylish, comfortable, safe, and reliable.
I’m new to The Car Wizard channel and I’ve been slowly making my way through the videos, so my apologies on being really late to the game on this one. Love your content, Wizard!
I’ve been with Honda for 5 years, some things I agree with, some I don’t. 03-05 Pilots and Odysseys had a transmission replacement recall, avoid them. 07-15 Pilots and Odysseys (Accord 08-13) have the garbage Variable Cylinder Management system causing excessive oil consumption - avoid them, especially the older ones.
The Honda V6 engine has never been a timing chain engine (on Odyssey, Pilot, Ridgeline and Accord anyway), has always been a timing belt.
Avoid 2010-11 CRVs due to excessive engine oil consumption- requires ring and piston replacement.
Avoid all 2002-2005 Civics - they blow head gaskets - REGULARLY.
Keep up the great work Wizard and Mrs. Wizard!
I work at Honda in parts and when he said the newer Odysseys have timing chains I became slightly sick to my stomach. Even the brand new 2023 Honda 3.5L with dual overhead cams using a timing belt. Hopefully people do their research and still get their belt replaced!
I owned a cherry s2000 for 8 years. Sold it for more than what I bought it for. I put 50k miles on it and it never failed me. Yes the s2000 is soulless compared to a Ferrari but compared to a Miata it is a fire breathing dragon. It's all relative. Love your videos wizard!
I thought the s2000 handled really well. Very revvy, fun little car to drive, looks good. Its not very fast but it doesn't need to be, its a roadster and I think its the best car that Honda made
NSX best sport car
TOP GEAR Jeremy Clarkson actually said "The S2000 was the greatest car ever made"
He said all the equations weighed and its is the best ever overall.
He received his new version Ford Gt40 thing and the next day he was going to drive it to work after a year or two waiting to get it shipped to him, AND IT BROKE DOWN IN HIS GARAGE LOL
The boys laughed in his face on that episode.
The nsx and the s2000 arent comparable. The nsx, the old one, is bordering on a super car. The its best to think of the s2000 as a better faster miata. Fast as shit vs fast enough.
All the crap his insurance company made him install and the trickle charger he selected are what failed him. The trickle charger failed and caused electricle problems. The tracker failed. The security system failed. Iagain the aftermarket stuff failed.
@@barneythedog977 No, he did not say 'Greatest car ever made'. That is what he said about the LFA. Jermey has given the S2000 good reviews on Top gear. But it's ranked number 22 out of his top 100...
My 2012 Accord Coupe V6 six speed has been flawless over the period of my ownership ( 10's of thousands of miles), with zero brake issues to report.
My 7th gen tranny went up at 250K miles. I replaced it with a rebuild tranny and the guy I sold it to at 280K still drives it. It has over 500K miles on it today. My 8th gen was very reliable for the 5 years I had it. Had to put 2 clutches in it, first one at 150K, second at 180K due to one of the springs coming loose and getting caught in the fins. Rebuilt the suspension at 195K. Got rid of it at 210K when I upgraded to a ‘23 11th gen brand new. I love my civics
I have an 09 acura tsx manual transmission. When I totaled my Lexus es350 I was looking for another one or a manual honda. Havent had any trouble. Those are pretty bulletproof
That's the gearbox to get (if I could find one)
Manual transmissions don't break, automatics do
@@kclefthanded427 I drove 3 hours to get mine. It was $6200. Look on facebook for a decent price.
Honda doesn't have a soul, Kia has a Soul.
😂😂😂
Ba-dum-psssss!!
i had a 2006 Civic bought brand new and it had a engine block issue right after the warranty expired. but Honda did cover the repair and we bought a Civic again in 2016. I also have a 95 Civic with 210K miles and it’s still rock solid.
You've clearly never driven an S2000 😂 it is the definition of soul and excitement.
The Wizard clearly never driven in S2000.
He doesn't fit
@Fishermanguy44 your 38 year old Camaro is only good for the drag strip not any drifting or track driving. For those you need a lightweight car. A huge heavy V8 makes an unbalanced car. It just depends what you're looking for in a sporty car. Pony cars especially the old ones are only good for straight lines and nothing else. The S2000 was not built for straight lines.
@Fishermanguy44 maybe one of the best handling pony cars of it's time. Definitely not one of the best handling cars of it's time lol
@Fishermanguy44 Supra
@Fishermanguy44 and originally this was about the S2000. The S2000 from 2001 handles better than any pony car built in 2001. Take the mustang the one I have most experience with. It drives like a 70s Cadillac lol the S2000 was a really great fun car. The Wizard seems to think that miatas are great cars if I recall correctly. The S2000 was a better car than the Miata on every single metric. And this is coming from a Miata guy lol
My mother has been driving an 06 Honda Pilot since it was new and has no plans to get rid of it any time soon. It has never failed her, and has a lot of power. I actually met a guy once who was told me about his 07 pilot which had 380k miles on it, with no issues. I agree about the earlier models, but the 06-08 Honda Pilot seems to be a rare gem.
My 06 pilot has over 300k on it and believe it or not it still has the original engine, trans, front struts and rear shocks, it even has the original front and rear rotors!! Still within spec.. if you treat them right and use amsoil they'll run forever.
Do u use Amsoil transgfluid
I had an 05 pilot as my first car. Basically grew up in that car. It was fantastic and I never had any issues until around 250k miles.
I've owned Hondas since 1984 and have found them very reliable - except one. My 2000 Acura TL which I bought new had a factory recall on transmissions to 90K and mine went out at 94K. After a bit of dickering with Honda since I never received a recall notice, and since all maintenance until that time had been performed at the local Acura dealership at the recommended intervals, they did install a new transmission without charge which lasted until 278K. I donated it the Make a Wish foundation in McKinney, TX, and never looked back.
I consider any car that goes 200K without major issues reliable.
But my wife did go back to EX-L V6 Honda Accords...there simply wasn't enough difference in niceties to justify another $10K to buy a TL.