You are not running your 190kv board at it's full potential... Your ESC hardly outputs 15A per motor MAX . Whereas your motor is rated for minimum of 20 - 25 A ... So technically your power output is just 36v * 30A = 1080 Watts... Pretty less : ( That's why I STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU TO USE A VESC , WHICH CAN EASILY output 40 - 50 A per motor !! That power is INSANE 😵😵 Also make sure your battery can deliver that power... If not you can use burst of a few seconds to squezze more power out of your battery for a second , by then you would already be faster than a bullet train 🤣🤣🤣
This is the best video I have found on this - so detailed and the comparison between 3 different setups is amazing! Thank you so much, this has helped greatly in deciding to go with a 190kV motor! :)
It’s hard to believe that a 2400 watt dual can’t beat a 1500 watt dual GTX. I have an Evolve Carbon GT and modified its motors to 1650 watts/200KV and its pretty fast and I love the torque of it. I have a 6374 watt/190KV I’m about to put into a DIY board. I hope it pulls harder than my Carbon GT. Anyways, I enjoy your videos. They’re all very educational. Keep up the good work dude
Ryan Berardelli it as sag. But with my new motor it gives it more torque and higher speed. You just have to watch how you pull the accelerator trigger that’s all.
2400 watt will most probably "beat" actually wipe the floor with a 1500 motor. You might need to change the gear ratio if the 1500W has a lower Kv rating tho to get the same torque, but the potential torque and the top speed will be much higher.
Love it!!! BEAST!!!! Maybe 4wd sometime? lol. You're like an Electric Skateboard young Frankenstein! I wish for you to be more popular, you're a hidden gem! ^_^
I thought it would be boring to explain the video with subtitles. I think that's why it went a little fast. And your opinion was helpful. Thank you for telling me :)
아직까진 무슨말인지 다 이해는 안되지만ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 잘보고있습니다! 알아가는 재미로 영상 끝까지 다 보게되네요 지난번 봄에 새 DIY보드 끝판왕 만들기 컨텐츠 벌써 시작인건가요????기대됩니다ㅋㅋㅋ + 혹시 촬영하실때 드론촬영 필요하시면 나가서 도와드릴게요ㅎㅎㅎ 광각촬영장비에 멀리서 촬영하는걸 드론으로 볼수있다면 더 좋을것 같습니다ㅎㅎ
There was no need to confirm. This is because the ESC output was less than the current value available in the motor. I know what you mean. I also don't think the design of this experiment is perfect. The biggest cause is the difference in maximum power consumption because the sizes of the two motors are different. But in this video, I want you to understand it as a video that explains the correlation between the motor's KV number, torque, and maximum speed. Thanks.
I like your videos but sometimes it is hard to read because the white text is sometimes not visible and there is sometimes not enough time to read 😬 But I like it, it is just this that bothers me sometimes. Thanks for the videos and nice boards you have there 👍
One more thing to point - how much amp your ESC can can pump into motor - these motors are able to handle 100A maybe more for a short time. Your ESC looks like one from aliexpress which can deiver 20A at the best. Again these motors are very powerful they should be able to burn tires and accelereate yours 65 kilos in no time.
Yes, I know what you mean. But in the video, the relationship between torque and speed according to the change in the motor KV when the current is output under the same conditions was tested.
Well... it depends on the situation. If you want more torque on the hillside than the top speed of the board, I can recommend it, and if you want better overall performance, you should replace the ESC and the battery. In this video, I just wanted to explain the difference between KV values and different motors when they're in the same condition. (high KV = top speed, low KV = high torque)
Hi~ Lee :-) Thank you for watching~ I had already asked about those combine. ESC's supplier says it has better power performance. EX - 10s5p DIY kit V2.1 FOC ESC out put = total 50A, 120A for system instantaneous current. The average VESC has a higher power output than this. It depends on the version. And I have seen your video of electric board dancing :-) HaHa. It was great~ Please keep going !!! (ºㅁº)=b
@@KAMiJUINs haha, thanks for the compliment. Just watched videos #32 and #33. I bought it last summer too. I wish I found your channel sooner! Keep those fun videos coming!
Hi I love your videos keep them coming! I am looking to upgrade my motors I have the 5055 200kv flipsky motors and was looking to upgrade to the 6354 190kvs is it worth it ? Looking at stats it will have so much more torque so with bigger wheels and different gear ratio it should be a lot better ?
Thank you for watching my videos :) The size of the motor is important if you want to upgrade. Course, The bigger motor has stronger power. Changing the gear ratio in a small diameter motor causes strain the motor or increase battery consumption.
Thank you for watching :) This is the Loaded Vanguard deck and i painted. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075NLR867/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_8?smid=A1KIGC2OOP10VK&psc=1
Thank you for watching :-) I used 184mm. Caliber Trucks Cal II 50 ° RKP Longboard Trucks - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FDNDZZS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
시청감사합니다.~ 우선 화면에 좀 더 깨끗하게 보이는 부분도 있는것 같구요, 여러보드를 타다보니 덜 더러워지는 것 같습니다. (데일리보다는 레져로 즐기고 있어서 생각보다 자주 타지는 못합니다.) 우선 집안에 보관하기에 타고난 후 솔 브러쉬로 털어주고 너무 더러운 부분이 있는 곳은 물티슈로 닦아주는게 전부입니다. 타는 것도 좋아하지만 걸어두고 보는 것도 좋아해서 가능하면 더럽지 않게 관리합니다.
Great video comparison , I would like to see Low KV motor with gear tooth ratio change to match high KV speed motor to see if the Low KV motor still has better initial acceleration and better uphill performance , the best part of the video was when the music stopped , you dont need music in your videos (make music very low) your subtitles on screen were fantastic. I will subscribe to you now and have saved this video :)
It depends on the weight of the rider. I am 65 kilograms, and I feel a little weak in early acceleration. But even the same 270 Kv motor would not weak of power if it was bigger than 50 diameters of the motor.
Is there any downside to having more teeth on both the motor and wheel pulley? For example, an 18t 44t setup should have the same torque and top speed as a 15t 36t setup just with more teeth engaged, is there any downside? I'm looking at using these same Flipsky motors. I would like to be able swap out motor pulleys depending on whether I want speed or torque. I'm thinking that a 40t wheel pulley with a 16t and 18t motor pulley would work. What do you think?
Thank you for watching :) If the gear ratio is the same, neither speed nor torque will change. However, DIY has many variables. Growing pulleys can cause interference with the wheels and make it difficult to find the correct length of motor mounts and belts. Make sure to check it before making it.
Thank you for watching :-) Flipsky 6354/190KV 2450W motor - flipsky.net/collections/e-skateboard/products/6354-190kv-2450w-2 Loaded Vanguard Bamboo Deck - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075NLR867/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_1?smid=A16ZC15ZGEH7W1&psc=1 I painted the deck. Other parts information is in the description box.
This video describes the correlation between torque and top speed according to motor Kv numbers. GTX has 150Kv number of motor, the maximum torque is higher than 190Kv or 260Kv used for DIY. As a result, the initial acceleration is fast, but the top speed is low.
@@Nandox7 No. and This is infos motor pulley (after i changed it from 14T to 16T) - diyelectricskateboard.com/collections/motor-pulleys/products/16t-htd5-12mm-motor-pulley wheel pulley - www.diyeboard.com/drive-wheel-pulley-35t-5m-13mm-wide-for-diy-electric-skateboard-p-542.html
벨트텐션에 대한 정확한 지침은 없지만 너무느슨할경우 가속이나 제동시 벨트슬립이 발생할수있고, 너무 타이트하면 가속이나 제동시 보드의 기동이 민감하게 느껴질수 있습니다. 또한 둘다 벨트수명과 풀리내구성에 좋지않은 영향을 줍니다. 본인이생각하는 적당한 텐션으로 설정하시면 될것 같습니다.
Hey there can you please tell what battery pack you used for you 6454 motors And also I'm looking to use 200×50 mm wheels.. how do I choose motor pulley and wheel pulley
This is too old a video. I think it would be better to use a motor of about 6375/170kv to use 200x50 tires. Pulley recommends 15T motors and 60T wheels based on a 12s battery. (recommended 12s4p pack)
@@KAMiJUINs ah ok thank you so much..i was actually following bajaboards and one of their skateboard is using 6354 motor with 200×50mm wheels that's why i wanted to know the pulley size for both motor and wheels
Number of motor pulley teeth: many - Max speed increase, less - Torque increase. Number of wheel pulley teeth: many - increased torque, less - increased max speed Wheel diameter: Large - Max speed increase, Small - Torque increase Motor KV number: high - high rotation (max speed increase), low - low rotation (torque increase) Motor KV x Battery Voltage = Rotation per minute of the motor. In general, if the rider is heavy or off-road riding is the main purpose, it is recommended to set up a torque-oriented setting.
@@KAMiJUINs wow that's great information. So we are basically looking to build a off road skateboard with specifically 6354 flipsky motor itself So now from the information you've provided me i should be looking for a torque oriented setup which will simply include a motor pulley with less number of teeth and a wheel pulley with more teeth The motors we've got have come with a 8mm pulley and that's why so many questions I'm really sorry for asking so many newbie doubts Just wanted a link from where we can buy a motor pulley, pulley belt and wheel pulley based on flipsky 6354 motor
They're from this video. Check it out. Belt - www.diyeboard.com/2505m-htd5-12mm-width-belt-for-beltdrive-electric-skateboards-p-546.html Pulley - www.diyeboard.com/drive-wheel-pulley-35t-5m-13mm-wide-for-diy-electric-skateboard-p-542.html
Thank you for watching :-) This is a V2.1 Dual Belt Motor Sine Wave FOC ESC (It is not a high-performance product.) www.diyeboard.com/upgraded-v21-dual-belt-motor-sine-wave-foc-esc-speed-controller-p-599.html My set up - 6.4Ah(battery), V2.1 FOC ESC, 6354/190kv(dual motors), 83mm wheel = near around 15Km
@@KAMiJUINs dam i whas hoping u hade the 15mm pulley, a well ty annay way, np m8 im building my owne board atm, 4x5065 1.1 Dual Belt Motor Speedcontroller i think it is (might uppgrade it to the 2.1 if posibol) but slave rigged n im thinking of running 2x10s 10AH 36V mounted but having a master switch ;P one for geting there n one for geting home :P ya its going to be a beast to lugg around... Ty for a nice kv comparison...
What motor pulley you use? I have same motor with you from flipsky and it comes with 8mm bore round and has key way but they dont have the key shaft. I wonder if i use the pulley without key shaft it will loose during ride. Thank you
This is what I'm using now. diyelectricskateboard.com/collections/motor-pulleys/products/16t-htd5-12mm-motor-pulley I changed it because I was worried like you.
I really admire your built and willing to build a simillar just like you. Whats your best setting ? If you change to 16T on Motor and what size for wheels pulley currently? I understand that in this video your set up is 14 : 35
Good video new subscriber I just have some questions , Should I buy 2 motor 2 belt 2 motor controller??? Which motor controller do you buy? And if I buy 2 both of them work just with one? Help plz anyone, And you said is another connection different help plz
If you purchase ESC for dual motors, you can control two motors with one ESC. ESC, Controller - www.diyeboard.com/upgraded-v21-dual-belt-motor-sine-wave-foc-esc-speed-controller-p-599.html And this is the dual-motor ESC used in this video.
@@KAMiJUINs thanks alot with baterry should I use ? Sorry and case for both oh them thanks plz continue uploading videos!!! Good job and kami good boy I saw your videos now from the beginning
Hey :=) I got 2 questions and I thing your the only one that I can ask right now :) I would like to use 1 190 kv motor and my question is, which battery do I need for and which VESC or ESC Do I need for? And could you maybe a bit spesific please :D Thank you btw nice work :) gonna subscribe :))
Usually, use 10s (36v) batteries, but if you like to climb a hill often or if you like strong torque with more speed, then setting up 12s batteries would be good. See below the link. I think it has a good price/performance ESC. flipsky.net/collections/electronic-products/products/torque-esc-vesc-%C2%AE-bldc-electronic-speed-controller.
Very nice comparison and I would prefer the Motor 190 KV but I currently use only the Motor 270 KV and 320 KV with 6 S Lipo on Gear Ratio 3:1 (T36/T12)
Thank you for watching~ It's my opinion. In fact, the difference between 200 Kv and 190 Kv might be hard to feel. Still, I think 190Kv would be better if you want single belt drive.
@@Vfaall My 170Kv motor is powerful but hasn't a slight delicate feel so far. If your focus is speed, I recommend high KV and If your focus is power, should be low KV. And 63mm in diameter motor seems to be more stable.(my opinion)
아무래도 1400W에서 2450W로 출력이 높아져서 배터리 소모량도 증가합니다. 정확히 측정 해 볼 순 없지만 반복된 가다서다 및 가속을 하는데 있어서 에너지 효율 측면으로는 두모터의 와트수비율 만큼 배터리 소모 차이가 클 것 같진 않습니다. 하지만 더 먹는건 확실하고 동력성능의 향상은 거의 대부분 더 많은 배터리를 소모합니다(슬프게도 말이죠)
I just checked and the previous 5055 belt kit is mounted fix angle. so it is not possible to set up with drip-thru deck. But if you use DIY Electric Skateboard Motor Mount, You can adjust the angle. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073C6TJC5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1&psc=1 And in my opinion, there is less problem with the reverse mount mounting on the drop thru deck.
Thank you for watching :) Which one? I wrote it down. Check it out. 1. www.amazon.com/Evolve-Skateboards-Bamboo-Electric-Skateboard/dp/B0791YBK69/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=evolve+GTX&qid=1554776789&s=gateway&sr=8-1 2. I painted it. -- www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075NLR867/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_8?smid=A16ZC15ZGEH7W1&psc=1 3. I painted it. -- www.backfireboards.com/product/460890717699/backfire-longboard-deck-with-grip-tape-and-wire-inside-and-waterproof-rubber-gasket
Good morning mate I follow your channel and your instagram I'm from Brazil and I'm putting together a long for me. Could you help me with some tips? I want to put 2 1800 w motors and a 10s battery My problem is the controller, can you refer me to a controller that supports both engines? Thanks hug
아 그러셨군요~ 제 경우는 배터리는 모두 해외직구를 하고있어요. 배터리에 경우 타시는 보드와 호환이 되는 볼트수를 사용하는 편이 안전하니 그부분 먼저 알아야 할것 같아요 (44,36,24V) 저가로 진행하시려면 라이포(Lipo)배터리 팩을 사용할 수도 있는데 BMS설치나 아니면 충전시 발란스 충전기를 사용해야합니다. 그리고 보드의 배터리 케이스(엔클로져)랑도 맞아야하니 DIY가 아닌 기존보드에 따로 제작되어있는 배터리를 구매,설치하는 것은 좀 복잡해지는 문제 같아요. (제가 확실히 어떤 상황인지 알 수 없어서 명확히 답을 못드리는 점이 있네요.) 혹시 원하시는 베터리 용량과 형식(EX: 12s2p,10s4p,10s2p...등등) 이 있다면 알려 주세요. 그럼 좀더 답변 드릴 수 있을 것 같아요.
@@UZB301 The closer you get to 1:2 the more so. (motor side 1: wheel side 2) This lowers the torque and increases the maximum speed and there is more strain on motors and more battery consumption.
@@UZB301 I didn't use this motor for long periods of time. So, there was no problem so far, but I felt the torque of the motor was too weak when I was riding it. Especially, When accelerating and stopping, the jerky motion was severe due to weak torque.
올해 첫 영상을 시작합니다.
I'm going to start my first video this year.
I am also in korea please can u tellme where i can buy all these stuffs like battery motor and remote controller
Yes plz help can you do a video with all the stuff you use here plz to build a 6354 190kv plz
You are not running your 190kv board at it's full potential...
Your ESC hardly outputs 15A per motor MAX . Whereas your motor is rated for minimum of 20 - 25 A ...
So technically your power output is just 36v * 30A = 1080 Watts... Pretty less : (
That's why I STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU TO USE A VESC , WHICH CAN EASILY output 40 - 50 A per motor !! That power is INSANE 😵😵
Also make sure your battery can deliver that power...
If not you can use burst of a few seconds to squezze more power out of your battery for a second , by then you would already be faster than a bullet train 🤣🤣🤣
instablaster...
This is the best video I have found on this - so detailed and the comparison between 3 different setups is amazing! Thank you so much, this has helped greatly in deciding to go with a 190kV motor! :)
Thank you for watching~ :-)
Super keep it going
You have the best and neatest builds I’ve seen great videos too . thanks .
Thank you for watching :)
Nice vidz bro ,nice soundtracks and puppy 😊😆😄😃
Thank you for watching :)
아직 많이 어려워서 이 영상처럼 만들 자신이 없네요... 처음보는데 영상퀄도 좋고 강아지도 너무 귀엽네요 자주자주 오겟습니다아
네~ 그렇게 봐 주셔서 감사합니다 ㅎ 또오세요~
Great video, I appreciated the information an scientific method applied. Please keep it up!
Thank you for watching :)
Super movie. which gear did you use for the wheel? I see that this gear has a common bearing?
It’s hard to believe that a 2400 watt dual can’t beat a 1500 watt dual GTX. I have an Evolve Carbon GT and modified its motors to 1650 watts/200KV and its pretty fast and I love the torque of it. I have a 6374 watt/190KV I’m about to put into a DIY board. I hope it pulls harder than my Carbon GT. Anyways, I enjoy your videos. They’re all very educational. Keep up the good work dude
Thank you for watching :) Perhaps Evolve's ESC role is also big.
@@KAMiJUINs Could be that the batteries aren't providing enough current for the bigger motors either, evolve is known for voltage sag and stuff
Ryan Berardelli it as sag. But with my new motor it gives it more torque and higher speed. You just have to watch how you pull the accelerator trigger that’s all.
@@kie-skatemods4141 yeah haha makes sense! Great video btw. Awesome information
2400 watt will most probably "beat" actually wipe the floor with a 1500 motor. You might need to change the gear ratio if the 1500W has a lower Kv rating tho to get the same torque, but the potential torque and the top speed will be much higher.
일단 6:30 절키가 아니라 코킹(Cogging)현상입니다.
깔끔하고 흥미로운 영상이네요...
Love it!!!
BEAST!!!!
Maybe 4wd sometime? lol.
You're like an Electric Skateboard young Frankenstein! I wish for you to be more popular, you're a hidden gem! ^_^
:-) That's too much praise~ thank you so much~
트럭도 에비뉴 트럭이었군요 ㅎㅎ 재미나게 잘봤습니다.
네 시청감사합니다 ~
subbed because you have given me valuable insight and because your puppy is adorable
Thank you so much :)
오래~기다렸습니다. 좋은 영상 잘봤네요🛹까미 해피뉴이어
네 감사합니다~ 새해 복 많이 받으세요 KAMi가!!!
Dam moe,you got me geeking to make my own board.imma show what I came up with using your specs.
190 is the best, good accel and 40kmph (u cant go higher than 40 on
Probably the first video I've ever had to watch with the speed turned down.
Info coming too fast to read it.
I thought it would be boring to explain the video with subtitles. I think that's why it went a little fast. And your opinion was helpful. Thank you for telling me :)
새해에도 좋은영상 부탁드립니다 ^^
준희님 새 해 복많이 받으세요. 하시는일 다 잘되시고요!!! ~ 그리고 항상 시청 감사드립니다 :-)
아직까진 무슨말인지 다 이해는 안되지만ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 잘보고있습니다!
알아가는 재미로 영상 끝까지 다 보게되네요
지난번 봄에 새 DIY보드 끝판왕 만들기 컨텐츠 벌써 시작인건가요????기대됩니다ㅋㅋㅋ
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혹시 촬영하실때 드론촬영 필요하시면 나가서 도와드릴게요ㅎㅎㅎ
광각촬영장비에 멀리서 촬영하는걸 드론으로 볼수있다면 더 좋을것 같습니다ㅎㅎ
그러셨군요 :-) 이번 영상 만들면서 모터부분에 약간 전문적인 부분으로 들어가서 얘기해봤어요.
(사실 더 설명하고 싶은 부분이 많았는데 제가 자막으로 영상을 만들다보니 좀 한계가 있네요 ㅡ.ㅡ')
그래도 끝까지 시청해 주셔서 감사합니다. 새해 복많이 받으세요~
Another awesome video and clean look on the product. Very Nice.
Thank you :-)
Awesome video editing style!
Thank you for watching :)
새해 복 많이 받으세요~~ 올해는 월급 모아서 이볼브 얼른 살 수 있었으면 좋겠네요~ 항상 느끼지만 전동 보드 커스텀 하시는 모습이 늘 부럽습니다. 전 손재주가 없어서 ㅠㅠ 여튼 잘 보고 갑니다!
PDHa'im 님도 새해 복 많이 받으세요~ 항상 시청해주셔서 감사합니다 :-) 이볼브 빨리 구매하시 길 바랍니다~ㅎㅎ
좋은 영상 잘 보고 갑니다. 영상이 디테일하고 설명도 너무 자세하게 잘 되어 있네요~! 👍🏻
네 시청감사합니다 :)
Thanks bro, really nice video ! We now have the battble hardened motors. Have you tried?
Send me please :)
Have been binging your content! Excellent video and excellent editing! Love it 😍😍
Thank you for visit :-) I love your Comment too ~
man! ...what an awesome fella you are! subscribed. ✌️
Thank you for watching :)
Thank you for the english subtitles (I am french) very nice video, you helped a lot of us!
Thank you for watching~And i'm glad to give you help.(ºㅁº)=b
Did you make sure the battery is able to output the currant needed for the larger motors without constraint?
There was no need to confirm. This is because the ESC output was less than the current value available in the motor. I know what you mean. I also don't think the design of this experiment is perfect. The biggest cause is the difference in maximum power consumption because the sizes of the two motors are different. But in this video, I want you to understand it as a video that explains the correlation between the motor's KV number, torque, and maximum speed. Thanks.
How did you tighten the motor mounts to the truck? I bought a pair and it seems very hard. Do you push them all the way in? Thanks!
what ESC are you using???
Nice and clean video ! What did you put on the edges of your 190kv board to protect edges? Thanks !
And you got my subscription ofc ;)
Thank you for watching :) And I just wrapped the PU sheet paper around.
I like your videos but sometimes it is hard to read because the white text is sometimes not visible and there is sometimes not enough time to read 😬
But I like it, it is just this that bothers me sometimes.
Thanks for the videos and nice boards you have there 👍
Hi there~ thank you for watching my videos :-) Yes i know what you mean and I'll try to ~
@@KAMiJUINs i also agree , maybe have mid Gray colour .
Watched more videos and i Like the Yellow and Black text ones you did
Your dog is so sweat 🥺😃👍🏼😲
Thank you so much for saying :)
i like your videos !! u are the best!!!
Thank you so much for saying that :)
Thank you very much for the info! I learn a lot after watching your video!! Thank youuuuuu!! :D
No problem :) and Thank you for watching~
Amazing, thanks! You helped me to decide between the motors. haha
Thank you for watching :) I glad to you if it helps.
유익한 정보 감사합니다~
유익하셨다니 뿌듯하네요 ㅎㅎ 시청감사합니다 :-)
Great video! Love the analysis :)
Thank you~ :-) It is a subjective analysis and I think there's still a lot to know about.
오오오오오ㅗㅇ 드디어어어어어ㅓ어엉어ㅓ어어어어엉
시청감사합니다~ 새해복많이 받으세요:-)
Nice video bro!!
I can use 2 different motors?
Example: 190 Kv and 260kv together.. its work good?
No way. It's too dangerous to start or stop.
와우!! 전동보드 첫 입문하는데 추천해주실 전동보드 있으신가요?? 혹시.. 제작 판매도 하시나요??
One more thing to point - how much amp your ESC can can pump into motor - these motors are able to handle 100A maybe more for a short time. Your ESC looks like one from aliexpress which can deiver 20A at the best. Again these motors are very powerful they should be able to burn tires and accelereate yours 65 kilos in no time.
Yes, I know what you mean.
But in the video, the relationship between torque and speed according to the change in the motor KV when the current is output under the same conditions was tested.
Thanks brother
Thank you for watching too~
다음에!! Boosted 전동보드도 사서 리뷰해주새요!!
사주세요 ㅡ..ㅡ ㅋ BOOSTED board는 아마도 다음 신제품 나올때 생각해 볼까합니다. (저도 갖고 싶습니다 ㅎ)
I have a diy electric board with 5055 270 KV motors and caliber trucks. Should I use a 6355 190 KV motor?
Well... it depends on the situation.
If you want more torque on the hillside than the top speed of the board, I can recommend it, and if you want better overall performance, you should replace the ESC and the battery.
In this video, I just wanted to explain the difference between KV values and different motors when they're in the same condition.
(high KV = top speed, low KV = high torque)
와~새로 만드실 보드는 배터리를 한 번에 두팩 사용하는 건가요??
보성님 오랫만이에요 ㅎ 새해복많이 받아요~ :-)
다음번에 만들 보드는 모터출력이 엄청커서(KAMi 보드 3배) 배터리 두팩 사용해 볼 예정이에요. 잘 만들 수 있을지 저도 잘 모르겠어요 ㅋ
I have the same 10s5p kit. Do you think the 5055 motors will work with a VESC? Or is 270kv is too much. Great video, btw!
Hi~ Lee :-) Thank you for watching~ I had already asked about those combine. ESC's supplier says it has better power performance.
EX - 10s5p DIY kit V2.1 FOC ESC out put = total 50A, 120A for system instantaneous current. The average VESC has a higher power output than this. It depends on the version.
And I have seen your video of electric board dancing :-) HaHa. It was great~ Please keep going !!! (ºㅁº)=b
@@KAMiJUINs haha, thanks for the compliment. Just watched videos #32 and #33. I bought it last summer too. I wish I found your channel sooner! Keep those fun videos coming!
Hi I love your videos keep them coming! I am looking to upgrade my motors I have the 5055 200kv flipsky motors and was looking to upgrade to the 6354 190kvs is it worth it ? Looking at stats it will have so much more torque so with bigger wheels and different gear ratio it should be a lot better ?
Thank you for watching my videos :) The size of the motor is important if you want to upgrade. Course, The bigger motor has stronger power. Changing the gear ratio in a small diameter motor causes strain the motor or increase battery consumption.
엇 이런 한국채널이 있다는걸 오늘 첨 알았네요
시청감사합니다 :) 또놀러오세요~
Pls.. where do you bye deck? Thanks you guy good jobs.
Thank you for watching :) This is the Loaded Vanguard deck and i painted.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075NLR867/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_8?smid=A1KIGC2OOP10VK&psc=1
Very detail :) support!
Thank you so much~!!!
Boosted stealth사서 타주세요!!그거 보고싶어요
zzz 저도 타보고싶어요 ㅎㅎㅎ
다음 기회가 있으시면 전동마운틴보드도 한번 만들어보심이....저도 한번 개조 해볼까 생각중이거든요
개인적으로 캐쥬얼 한 느낌에 전동보드를 좋아해서 아직까지는 마운틴 보드에 관심이 많지 않습니다. 그래서 확답은 못드릴것 같아요. ~ ㅡ..ㅡ'
마운틴 전동보드나름에 매력이 있으니 꼭 개조 성공하셔요~
KAMi JUINs, which size caliber trucks did you use.Was it the 158mm or the 184mm trucks
KAMi JUINs nvm
Thank you for watching :-) I used 184mm.
Caliber Trucks Cal II 50 ° RKP Longboard Trucks - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FDNDZZS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@KAMiJUINs Thank you :>>>>>
대단해요~~박수 짝짝짝!
그렇게 봐 주셔서 감사합니다~ :-)
문득 한가지 궁금해졌습니다. 매번 영상에서 보면 보드 위아래가 아~주 깨끗한데, 혹시 타시고 난 후 관리를 하시는건지요? 그렇다면 어떤 제품으로 Clean 하시는지 여쭤봅니다.
시청감사합니다.~ 우선 화면에 좀 더 깨끗하게 보이는 부분도 있는것 같구요, 여러보드를 타다보니 덜 더러워지는 것 같습니다. (데일리보다는 레져로 즐기고 있어서 생각보다 자주 타지는 못합니다.)
우선 집안에 보관하기에 타고난 후 솔 브러쉬로 털어주고 너무 더러운 부분이 있는 곳은 물티슈로 닦아주는게 전부입니다.
타는 것도 좋아하지만 걸어두고 보는 것도 좋아해서 가능하면 더럽지 않게 관리합니다.
@@KAMiJUINs 자세한 답변 감사합니다. 영상 너무 재밌게 보고 있어요.
Great video comparison , I would like to see Low KV motor with gear tooth ratio change to match high KV speed motor to see if the Low KV motor still has better initial acceleration and better uphill performance , the best part of the video was when the music stopped , you dont need music in your videos (make music very low) your subtitles on screen were fantastic. I will subscribe to you now and have saved this video :)
Thank you for watching :) Maybe you can watch the video you want from my channel.
Thank you man
No problem~ And thank you for watching :-)
love from China, also a e-skate fan 😁
Thank you for visit :-) 谢谢~
@@KAMiJUINs kkkk,감사, Did you upgraded the battery of evolve GTX?
@@ethanfeng8686 I haven't up-graded yet. Because I'm looking forward to the performance of my next DIY E- board :-)
@@KAMiJUINs street board or all terrain board? 😁
@@ethanfeng8686 ST E-board
With 10S battery will it be enough to power a 270kv motor?
It depends on the weight of the rider. I am 65 kilograms, and I feel a little weak in early acceleration.
But even the same 270 Kv motor would not weak of power if it was bigger than 50 diameters of the motor.
Is there any downside to having more teeth on both the motor and wheel pulley? For example, an 18t 44t setup should have the same torque and top speed as a 15t 36t setup just with more teeth engaged, is there any downside? I'm looking at using these same Flipsky motors. I would like to be able swap out motor pulleys depending on whether I want speed or torque. I'm thinking that a 40t wheel pulley with a 16t and 18t motor pulley would work. What do you think?
Thank you for watching :) If the gear ratio is the same, neither speed nor torque will change.
However, DIY has many variables. Growing pulleys can cause interference with the wheels and make it difficult to find the correct length of motor mounts and belts. Make sure to check it before making it.
와...부럽다 보드가 도대체 몇개임 ㄷㄷ 저렇게 살아야되는데....
한번뿐인 인생요 ㅎㅎ
Hi can you please tell me which speedometer you download . thank
the App name is "Speedometer" from iOS app store
전동 스케이트보드를 탈라면 운전면허가 필요한가요?
교통법규 상으로는 필요하다고 들었습니다(전동 모빌리티). 안전장구(헬멧)또한 꼭 착용하셔야 해요~
@@KAMiJUINs 감사합니다.^^
great content and cool editing style... love it, btw may i know what brand do you use for the 190kv board? is it loaded board same with boosted
Thank you for watching :-)
Flipsky 6354/190KV 2450W motor - flipsky.net/collections/e-skateboard/products/6354-190kv-2450w-2
Loaded Vanguard Bamboo Deck - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075NLR867/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_1?smid=A16ZC15ZGEH7W1&psc=1
I painted the deck. Other parts information is in the description box.
Great video man.
Thank you for watching and visit :-)
KAMi JUINs Hey quick question, what were the cost for all the board; Or which one is the cheapest?
@@briansanchez3776 I don't actually remember everything right now. But the cheapest board cost about $700 USD.(5055/270kv dual motor kit board)
What did you use on your front truck, like a metal shockpads?
Thank you for watching :)
avenuetrucks.com/products/avenue-suspension-longboard-truck?variant=9230046396452
Please check it with my video #51
Where did you find 14t pulley for 270kv motor? In original kit from diyeboard they have 13t.
Thank you for watching :) mine was 14t
I bought this at the beginning of last year.
I think the number of gears has decreased due to the weak torque problem of 270 Kv motor.
Hi. What difference between DIY and GTX and what is mean?
This video describes the correlation between torque and top speed according to motor Kv numbers.
GTX has 150Kv number of motor, the maximum torque is higher than 190Kv or 260Kv used for DIY. As a result, the initial acceleration is fast, but the top speed is low.
Do those motor mounts also allow to have the motors facing the back?
PS: cool video edit
Thank you for watching :-) It is possible on a typical longboard deck.
However, it is short to fit back into a Drop-through truck mounting deck.
@@KAMiJUINs Thank you! One last question are those the evolve pulleys? Cheers
@@Nandox7 No. and This is infos
motor pulley (after i changed it from 14T to 16T) - diyelectricskateboard.com/collections/motor-pulleys/products/16t-htd5-12mm-motor-pulley
wheel pulley - www.diyeboard.com/drive-wheel-pulley-35t-5m-13mm-wide-for-diy-electric-skateboard-p-542.html
형님 벨트 텐션은 위 영상과 같은 탠션을 유지해야하나요? 이유는 뭐죠??
벨트텐션에 대한 정확한 지침은 없지만 너무느슨할경우 가속이나 제동시 벨트슬립이 발생할수있고, 너무 타이트하면 가속이나 제동시 보드의 기동이 민감하게 느껴질수 있습니다.
또한 둘다 벨트수명과 풀리내구성에 좋지않은 영향을 줍니다. 본인이생각하는 적당한 텐션으로 설정하시면 될것 같습니다.
Bro your dog is so cute
Thank you so much~ I really love my dog :-)
Hey there can you please tell what battery pack you used for you 6454 motors
And also I'm looking to use 200×50 mm wheels.. how do I choose motor pulley and wheel pulley
This is too old a video.
I think it would be better to use a motor of about 6375/170kv to use 200x50 tires. Pulley recommends 15T motors and 60T wheels based on a 12s battery. (recommended 12s4p pack)
@@KAMiJUINs ah ok thank you so much..i was actually following bajaboards and one of their skateboard is using 6354 motor with 200×50mm wheels that's why i wanted to know the pulley size for both motor and wheels
One more thing if you could direct me to a video or some explanation how to choose pulley sizes for wheels and motor
Number of motor pulley teeth: many - Max speed increase, less - Torque increase.
Number of wheel pulley teeth: many - increased torque, less - increased max speed
Wheel diameter: Large - Max speed increase, Small - Torque increase
Motor KV number: high - high rotation (max speed increase), low - low rotation (torque increase)
Motor KV x Battery Voltage = Rotation per minute of the motor.
In general, if the rider is heavy or off-road riding is the main purpose, it is recommended to set up a torque-oriented setting.
@@KAMiJUINs wow that's great information. So we are basically looking to build a off road skateboard with specifically 6354 flipsky motor itself
So now from the information you've provided me i should be looking for a torque oriented setup which will simply include a motor pulley with less number of teeth and a wheel pulley with more teeth
The motors we've got have come with a 8mm pulley and that's why so many questions I'm really sorry for asking so many newbie doubts
Just wanted a link from where we can buy a motor pulley, pulley belt and wheel pulley based on flipsky 6354 motor
What motor pulley did you use in this video? And what belts?
They're from this video. Check it out.
Belt - www.diyeboard.com/2505m-htd5-12mm-width-belt-for-beltdrive-electric-skateboards-p-546.html
Pulley - www.diyeboard.com/drive-wheel-pulley-35t-5m-13mm-wide-for-diy-electric-skateboard-p-542.html
Thank you! And exactly which motor pulley? The one from flipsky?
same of both
What kind of esc you used in this video? Esc from diyeboard or flipsky 6.6 ? Thank you
Additional question. How long you can reach with this set up (range) ?
Thank you for watching :-)
This is a V2.1 Dual Belt Motor Sine Wave FOC ESC (It is not a high-performance product.)
www.diyeboard.com/upgraded-v21-dual-belt-motor-sine-wave-foc-esc-speed-controller-p-599.html
My set up - 6.4Ah(battery), V2.1 FOC ESC, 6354/190kv(dual motors), 83mm wheel = near around 15Km
@KAMi JUNIs wherwe did u get the gear pully u "stick into" the wheels
Thank you for watching :) and check this below~
www.diyeboard.com/drive-wheel-pulley-35t-5m-13mm-wide-for-diy-electric-skateboard-p-542.html
@@KAMiJUINs dam i whas hoping u hade the 15mm pulley, a well ty annay way, np m8 im building my owne board atm, 4x5065 1.1 Dual Belt Motor Speedcontroller i think it is (might uppgrade it to the 2.1 if posibol) but slave rigged n im thinking of running 2x10s 10AH 36V mounted but having a master switch ;P one for geting there n one for geting home :P ya its going to be a beast to lugg around...
Ty for a nice kv comparison...
What motor pulley you use? I have same motor with you from flipsky and it comes with 8mm bore round and has key way but they dont have the key shaft. I wonder if i use the pulley without key shaft it will loose during ride. Thank you
This is what I'm using now. diyelectricskateboard.com/collections/motor-pulleys/products/16t-htd5-12mm-motor-pulley
I changed it because I was worried like you.
I really admire your built and willing to build a simillar just like you. Whats your best setting ? If you change to 16T on Motor and what size for wheels pulley currently? I understand that in this video your set up is 14 : 35
@@rizkyraditya845 My current setting is 16-35.(motor 6354/190kv) I feel much better than before from it. Thanks :)
@@KAMiJUINs 16-35 setting occur less torque / accelerate but higher top speed. Am i correct?
@@rizkyraditya845 Mostly so.
Good video new subscriber I just have some questions , Should I buy 2 motor 2 belt 2 motor controller??? Which motor controller do you buy? And if I buy 2 both of them work just with one? Help plz anyone, And you said is another connection different help plz
If you purchase ESC for dual motors, you can control two motors with one ESC.
ESC, Controller - www.diyeboard.com/upgraded-v21-dual-belt-motor-sine-wave-foc-esc-speed-controller-p-599.html
And this is the dual-motor ESC used in this video.
@@KAMiJUINs thanks alot with baterry should I use ? Sorry and case for both oh them thanks plz continue uploading videos!!! Good job and kami good boy I saw your videos now from the beginning
@@KAMiJUINs if i buy the baterry sanyo is the same charger from the Panasonic
its possible change motors on exway flex riot?
well...I don't know about that :l
where do you buy the DIY battery packs shown in this video?
check this out
www.diyeboard.com/10s3p-18650-lithium-battery-pack-10s-36v-6ah-with-charger-p-631.html
Hey :=) I got 2 questions and I thing your the only one that I can ask right now :) I would like to use 1 190 kv motor and my question is, which battery do I need for and which VESC or ESC Do I need for? And could you maybe a bit spesific please :D Thank you btw nice work :) gonna subscribe :))
Usually, use 10s (36v) batteries, but if you like to climb a hill often or if you like strong torque with more speed, then setting up 12s batteries would be good. See below the link. I think it has a good price/performance ESC.
flipsky.net/collections/electronic-products/products/torque-esc-vesc-%C2%AE-bldc-electronic-speed-controller.
KAMi JUINs Thank you sooo much man 😁
Very nice comparison and I would prefer the Motor 190 KV but I currently use only the Motor 270 KV and 320 KV with 6 S Lipo on Gear Ratio 3:1 (T36/T12)
I think, I can't tell you what's best. it's good for you what you like. Thanks :-)
Best what to buy video thx
Thank you for watching :)
Best video I've ever seen.. ☺️
Say me
What's your country?
Thank you for watching :) I'm Korean.
@@KAMiJUINs
Thanks
I'm sri lankan
best.. ☺️ ☺️ ☺️ ✌️✌️✌️
what voltage of ESC are you running?
This test used the same low-cost ESC.
Voltage: 6S 24V / 7S 29.4V / 10S 36V (I used 10s 36v)
Current: Up to 120A for a few seconds or 50A continous
That avenue truck on the front :P
I bought a pair, so I used one here :-)
which better between racerstar 5065 200kv and Flipsky 6354 190kv for single belt drive?
Thank you for watching~
It's my opinion. In fact, the difference between 200 Kv and 190 Kv might be hard to feel.
Still, I think 190Kv would be better if you want single belt drive.
so what about 6374 170kv juin? hehe. im so confused to choose the motor for my first build ...
@@Vfaall My 170Kv motor is powerful but hasn't a slight delicate feel so far.
If your focus is speed, I recommend high KV and If your focus is power, should be low KV. And 63mm in diameter motor seems to be more stable.(my opinion)
What size is the belt and pulley what is the name or model
Search 5M timing belt and 5M motor pulley.
@@KAMiJUINs thankyou
배터리 소모가 더 늘었을가요?
아무래도 1400W에서 2450W로 출력이 높아져서 배터리 소모량도 증가합니다.
정확히 측정 해 볼 순 없지만 반복된 가다서다 및 가속을 하는데 있어서 에너지 효율 측면으로는 두모터의 와트수비율 만큼 배터리 소모 차이가 클 것 같진 않습니다.
하지만 더 먹는건 확실하고 동력성능의 향상은 거의 대부분 더 많은 배터리를 소모합니다(슬프게도 말이죠)
Help plz! I wonder if it's possible to setup drop thru with this motor (5055) ?
I just checked and the previous 5055 belt kit is mounted fix angle. so it is not possible to set up with drip-thru deck.
But if you use DIY Electric Skateboard Motor Mount, You can adjust the angle.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073C6TJC5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1&psc=1
And in my opinion, there is less problem with the reverse mount mounting on the drop thru deck.
Hey what is that deck called the one with three strips I've been trying to find the exact model!
Thank you for watching :) Which one? I wrote it down. Check it out.
1. www.amazon.com/Evolve-Skateboards-Bamboo-Electric-Skateboard/dp/B0791YBK69/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=evolve+GTX&qid=1554776789&s=gateway&sr=8-1
2. I painted it. -- www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075NLR867/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_8?smid=A16ZC15ZGEH7W1&psc=1
3. I painted it. -- www.backfireboards.com/product/460890717699/backfire-longboard-deck-with-grip-tape-and-wire-inside-and-waterproof-rubber-gasket
@@briansanchez3776 Actually, I don't know what to call this kind fo washer. ㅜ..ㅠ
그러고 보니 다이 제품...아니지....그 뭐냐 모터가 밖으로 나와있는 제품들도 배터리 재생회동시스템이 있나요? 전부터 궁금했는데 막상 컴터켜고 영상시청하면
질문할걸 까먹고있네요 ㅋㅋㅋ
벨트드라이브도 브레이킹 시 재동회생이 됩니다. 특별한 시스템이라기 보다는 모터가 정지하려할때 역으로 모터에서 발전이 생겨서 아주 작은 전류가 다시 충전되는 것입니다.
Where do you get all of your parts from?
Thank you for watching :) please check description box down below~
영상너무 재밋다!
재미있게 봐 주셔서 감사합니다~ 새해 복 많이 받으세요~ :-)
dam'n good vid lots of info thanks
NO problem~ thank you for watching :-)And glad to give you info.
Good morning mate
I follow your channel and your instagram
I'm from Brazil and I'm putting together a long for me.
Could you help me with some tips?
I want to put 2 1800 w motors and a 10s battery
My problem is the controller, can you refer me to a controller that supports both engines?
Thanks
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Hi :)
Well... i think the Flipsky Fsesc4.20 plus would be a good one
Thanks
What breed is your dog?
Thank you for watching :) KAMi is a toy poodle.
@@KAMiJUINs You should do a video of just your dog, he / she is awesome
amazing
Thank you for watching :)
배터리 저렴하게살수있는곳있을까요?
아 그러셨군요~ 제 경우는 배터리는 모두 해외직구를 하고있어요. 배터리에 경우 타시는 보드와 호환이 되는 볼트수를 사용하는 편이 안전하니 그부분 먼저 알아야 할것 같아요 (44,36,24V)
저가로 진행하시려면 라이포(Lipo)배터리 팩을 사용할 수도 있는데 BMS설치나 아니면 충전시 발란스 충전기를 사용해야합니다. 그리고 보드의 배터리 케이스(엔클로져)랑도 맞아야하니 DIY가 아닌 기존보드에 따로 제작되어있는 배터리를 구매,설치하는 것은 좀 복잡해지는 문제 같아요. (제가 확실히 어떤 상황인지 알 수 없어서 명확히 답을 못드리는 점이 있네요.)
혹시 원하시는 베터리 용량과 형식(EX: 12s2p,10s4p,10s2p...등등) 이 있다면 알려 주세요. 그럼 좀더 답변 드릴 수 있을 것 같아요.
what size is the truck?(6354)
10inches normal longboard truck ( caliber2)
KAMi JUINs high number of tooth gears-how much is this? 15/35 or more?)
@@UZB301 The closer you get to 1:2 the more so. (motor side 1: wheel side 2)
This lowers the torque and increases the maximum speed and there is more strain on motors and more battery consumption.
KAMi JUINs many complaints about this motor. do you use it regularly? no problem with it?
@@UZB301 I didn't use this motor for long periods of time. So, there was no problem so far, but I felt the torque of the motor was too weak when I was riding it.
Especially, When accelerating and stopping, the jerky motion was severe due to weak torque.
What type of dog is that
Thank you for watching :) He is a toy poodle.