Thank you for bringing up the Milwaukee Road f6’s, very underrated. Actually hit 100mph a couple months before flying Scotsman. Also yes thanks for telling me, the claim does appear to be very shaky and could very well be exaggerated.
Not officially though. That's why Scotsman gets the fame (dynamometer car). And then if you talk about unofficially, we have to then talk about City of Truro. I'm not saying the F6s are bad trains, just explaining why they are 'underrated'.
Given the method to record it was the same that claimed an 1890s 4-4-0 could reach the same speed as a Gresley A4... I have my doubts. To be fair though it is more belivable that 999's claim. Or that of the PRR T1s and S1.
@@thatconservativetrainguy3864 If we are going to talk about dodgy records, let's talk about Mallard. If I was in charge of world records, DRG 05 002 would still hold the record.
Glad to see another episode in this series! I always appreciate it when various engines, even when they're viewed as old, is given some sort of streamlined shrouding to make them look new again. A good example of this is Lackawanna Railroad #988: a 4-4-0 camelback that was streamlined in the 30s.
The "dynamic augment" on the K Class is very interesting for a very obscure reason... The K class was the primary engine reference for the Haunted Train episode of Hey Arnold, telling the ghost story of an engineer who went mad and drove his train off the track, never to be recovered. Hearing that the K class would literally yank its axles up off the rails really caught my attention, because it offers a technical headcanon for exactly HOW the mad engineer got his engine to mysteriously hop the tracks. He simply pushed the engine too far, until one axle didn't land back on the rail and the whole train veered off. It's extremely unlikely that the Hey Arnold staff knew about this dynamic augment phenomenon when writing the episode (I think the story was already conceived before the lead artist picked the reference) but its a very cool coincidence!
A steam era N&W Mechanical Department supervisor told me that the K-1s counter balance problems were known for jerking passenger trains so badly that it caused the passengers to have trouble sleeping. They were used on locals when a K-2 wasn't available.
Thank you for talking abought the MR 10 wheelers, this is a very special locomotive to me as my great great grandfather was a rail fan and had his picture taken next to number 11 in its streamlined form
The one locomotive I love more than any other within forgotten locomotive classes is the Wabash P class Hudsons. They were rebuilt from a failed 3 cylinder Mikado experiment with 70 inch drivers. They worked all across the Wabash system, mostly hauling passenger trains. I always found them to be very fascinating.
The T&P 2-10-4s were the FIRST Texas types ever made from the ground up and as a result, the T&P got to name the Wheel arrangement. T&P 610 is still around and word of mouth is there's a chance she will be restored at some point. And Otto Perry is FAR from underrated. And the D&H 4-8-4s were BASED upon the UP northern which were built over a decade prior to 1944. As a matter of fact 844 was delivered December 25th 1944. Same day as the Battle of the Bulge.
Well done! I recommend doing some things from the South Eastern US. There are a looooot of forgotten classics from down this way. Can't wait for the next video!
Very informative video. However... the Milwaukee Road 6402 wasn't the first engine in the U.S.A, that title would go to the NYC&HRR 999 which hit a top speed of 112.5 mph in 1893
The K-1 and K-3 classes were built in Roanoke. The K-2 s were built by Baldwin and did not have the counterbalance problems. Someone told me that the K-1s set up a jerking motion that made it difficult to sleep in the pullman cars.
Look into the Plant System mail contract race between ACL. Thats a story about American steam going over 100 that predates Flying Scotsman and Mallard.
i think the next episode would be a good idea to talk about the Union pacific 2-8-8-0s they are often overshadow by the big boy and challengers and yes union pacific did own 5 former Norfolk western Y3 but did not stay on the UP for very long, there is photo evidence of them in UP liveries
Ever heard of delaware and lackawanna western railroad 988? Well she was a streamlined 4-4-0 steam locomotive not only she was the worlds only streamlined 4-4-0 but she was also the smallest streamlined mainline tender steam locomotives in the world, yes 988 holds 2 records, unfortunately she was scrapped in 1946, i wish she survived into preservation and was donated to the railroad museum of Pennsylvania
To add a add a few more obscure steam locomotives, I would add the Central Vermont T3 2-10-4, and the UP/SP/Baldwin 4-10-2 3 cylinder steam locomotives(this is just my opinion)
Please PLEASE, if you do another of these videos, do a segment on the New Haven’s R3a heavy mountains! They had power outputs comparable to northerns and were a rare example of 3 cylinder power on the east coast
You might be wondering wait if the kcs had steam engines are there any preserved and yes there is one kcs steam locomotive still around 0-8-0 1023 she is on display at the heart of the heartlands museum in corona kansas and she is the sole surviving kcs steam locomotive
You make no clear distinction between the K1/2 and the K3 mountains of the N&W. The one with the flaws with heavy rail pounding were only the K3. The others were just good average mountains. K3 never received a light rod and roller bearing treatment.
This comment should probably be directed to whoever created your abysmal subtitles - the English word "there" is not designed be be substituted for "their," in every instance. Grammar, anyone?
Thank you for bringing up the Milwaukee Road f6’s, very underrated. Actually hit 100mph a couple months before flying Scotsman. Also yes thanks for telling me, the claim does appear to be very shaky and could very well be exaggerated.
Not officially though. That's why Scotsman gets the fame (dynamometer car). And then if you talk about unofficially, we have to then talk about City of Truro. I'm not saying the F6s are bad trains, just explaining why they are 'underrated'.
Given the method to record it was the same that claimed an 1890s 4-4-0 could reach the same speed as a Gresley A4... I have my doubts. To be fair though it is more belivable that 999's claim. Or that of the PRR T1s and S1.
The f6 actually was way better then Scotsman since the engine only hit 100 going downhill and broke down afterwards
@@thatconservativetrainguy3864 If we are going to talk about dodgy records, let's talk about Mallard. If I was in charge of world records, DRG 05 002 would still hold the record.
@@thatconservativetrainguy3864 You're thinking of Mallard as the engine that had the overheated bearing.
Glad to see another episode in this series! I always appreciate it when various engines, even when they're viewed as old, is given some sort of streamlined shrouding to make them look new again. A good example of this is Lackawanna Railroad #988: a 4-4-0 camelback that was streamlined in the 30s.
That was a neat example of a streamlined locomotive. Your covering of it in Remarkable Engines was a fun one to watch.
Yeah, Pensyfan19, I liked that video
The "dynamic augment" on the K Class is very interesting for a very obscure reason... The K class was the primary engine reference for the Haunted Train episode of Hey Arnold, telling the ghost story of an engineer who went mad and drove his train off the track, never to be recovered. Hearing that the K class would literally yank its axles up off the rails really caught my attention, because it offers a technical headcanon for exactly HOW the mad engineer got his engine to mysteriously hop the tracks. He simply pushed the engine too far, until one axle didn't land back on the rail and the whole train veered off. It's extremely unlikely that the Hey Arnold staff knew about this dynamic augment phenomenon when writing the episode (I think the story was already conceived before the lead artist picked the reference) but its a very cool coincidence!
A steam era N&W Mechanical Department supervisor told me that the K-1s counter balance problems were known for jerking passenger trains so badly that it caused the passengers to have trouble sleeping. They were used on locals when a K-2 wasn't available.
Thank you for talking abought the MR 10 wheelers, this is a very special locomotive to me as my great great grandfather was a rail fan and had his picture taken next to number 11 in its streamlined form
Lol I totally agree on basically everything you said about the CN ECM Units. I have caught one before without even noticing it at first glance.
7:53 amazing music Great big rolling railroad in a thomas the tank engine style
I absolutely love that he uses Mario Kart music for the background in almost every single video of his.
Bro I LOVE the D&H
The one locomotive I love more than any other within forgotten locomotive classes is the Wabash P class Hudsons. They were rebuilt from a failed 3 cylinder Mikado experiment with 70 inch drivers. They worked all across the Wabash system, mostly hauling passenger trains. I always found them to be very fascinating.
The T&P 2-10-4s were the FIRST Texas types ever made from the ground up and as a result, the T&P got to name the Wheel arrangement. T&P 610 is still around and word of mouth is there's a chance she will be restored at some point. And Otto Perry is FAR from underrated. And the D&H 4-8-4s were BASED upon the UP northern which were built over a decade prior to 1944. As a matter of fact 844 was delivered December 25th 1944. Same day as the Battle of the Bulge.
7:52 Yes thank You Cowl Unit Productions. Very underrated locomotive indeed.
I think the Fetter Challengers are equally forgotten, love their look!
Hi from Austin Minnesota we're 1004 is love the content 1004 still fires!
you should mention the CPR's t1 class 2-10-4 Selkirks... Underappreciated kings of the Rockies
Well done! I recommend doing some things from the South Eastern US. There are a looooot of forgotten classics from down this way. Can't wait for the next video!
Very informative video. However... the Milwaukee Road 6402 wasn't the first engine in the U.S.A, that title would go to the NYC&HRR 999 which hit a top speed of 112.5 mph in 1893
...allegedly.
The K-1 and K-3 classes were built in Roanoke. The K-2 s were built by Baldwin and did not have the counterbalance problems. Someone told me that the K-1s set up a jerking motion that made it difficult to sleep in the pullman cars.
Another great video on obscure steam!
Look into the Plant System mail contract race between ACL. Thats a story about American steam going over 100 that predates Flying Scotsman and Mallard.
i think the next episode would be a good idea to talk about the Union pacific 2-8-8-0s they are often overshadow by the big boy and challengers and yes union pacific did own 5 former Norfolk western Y3 but did not stay on the UP for very long, there is photo evidence of them in UP liveries
If you do another one of these, I think that the UP's Mikados would be worth talking about!
Ever heard of delaware and lackawanna western railroad 988? Well she was a streamlined 4-4-0 steam locomotive not only she was the worlds only streamlined 4-4-0 but she was also the smallest streamlined mainline tender steam locomotives in the world, yes 988 holds 2 records, unfortunately she was scrapped in 1946, i wish she survived into preservation and was donated to the railroad museum of Pennsylvania
To add a add a few more obscure steam locomotives, I would add the Central Vermont T3 2-10-4, and the UP/SP/Baldwin 4-10-2 3 cylinder steam locomotives(this is just my opinion)
And man, there are a lot of unknown Hudsons!
Saw a picture of the SP's MTs in your last EP. Would love to see you cover them, they are seriously underrated.
if there is a 4th part made for this, could the 4 truck Shays possibly be mentioned? they are very forgotten and i think deserve the spotlight
I hope you do a video on Joint Boiler Steam Locomotives
Please PLEASE, if you do another of these videos, do a segment on the New Haven’s R3a heavy mountains! They had power outputs comparable to northerns and were a rare example of 3 cylinder power on the east coast
Honestly I love the D&H northerns and challengers, but the others are um.. almost alien like
PLEASE make a part three!
12:18
Hey... I know that guy!
Do you think maybe you could do a video about forgotten excursion engines because I have two that I bet you have never heard of
Can you talk about the Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis & Omaha, the “Omaha Road” E3 Pacifics, the largest pacific built for any railroad next
Next time can you talk about some of the New Haven’s Locomotives the NH is a very underrated Railroad and no one even seems to talk about its steamers
You might be wondering wait if the kcs had steam engines are there any preserved and yes there is one kcs steam locomotive still around 0-8-0 1023 she is on display at the heart of the heartlands museum in corona kansas and she is the sole surviving kcs steam locomotive
Pot-o-mac 😂😂😂😂. Say it with me everyone Pah-Toe-Mic
Not gonna lie, those streamlined 4-6-0s look CURSED
Texas type is my favorite type of locomotives
The first 3 locomotives in this video are more known than we would think.
What was that questionbale 2-8-0 steam locomotive from the Delaware and hudson?
Texas and Pacific 610 for the win
You make no clear distinction between the K1/2 and the K3 mountains of the N&W. The one with the flaws with heavy rail pounding were only the K3. The others were just good average mountains. K3 never received a light rod and roller bearing treatment.
I'm wondering where the KCS J class used on fast expresses cause the driving wheel diameter of 72 inches should give them a speed of Atleast 79 MPH
you should mention the CNW H class or CNW E2s in part 3
6:39 if it helps it's pronounced "on-ta-na-gan"
Make a video about Hudson Empire state express New York Central ... History....
cool video
Do New York central Mercury
Do you have any plans to go over the Maine Central 4-6-4s at any point in this series?
Aren't the D&H 4-8-4s classified as K62s?
Yes
a bit of a my bad on that part. Yes, they are classified as K62s.
Kinda looks like a reading t1 10:11
MILWAUKEE F6 BALTIC SUPREMACY
This comment should probably be directed to whoever created your abysmal subtitles - the English word "there" is not designed be be substituted for "their," in every instance. Grammar, anyone?
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hey can you do ep 1 of the pennsy anime
Minneapolis = Min-nee-a-po-less, not "Min-nee-UN-a-po-less"
Pa TOE mac. 😁