I have gen 3 and I route 49/50(33-48 is my adat outs) from DAW(playback) to monitor outs just fine and I dont lose any of my 32 analog outs. I don't use pro tools though. Also are the converters the same in both gen 3 and 4?
No it doesn’t because you’d need pro tools HDX for that and I believe the Galaxy is a HDX interface. So it would actually be Pro Tools and the HDX cards doing the delay compensation, not the Galaxy.
@@OliverShillito Hi Oliver, that is not correct. Andrew Masters (his channel is called STUDIO TIME) made a video about the Galaxy in his studio and this unit does have automatic delay compensation (even without the HDX card from Avid).
He may be using HD Native then without a HDX card but for sure it’s a pro tools HD thing. Pro Tools Studio does not offer automatic delay compensation for hardware. Only for plugins.
I have the same problem w giving up 1&2 for monitoring w Logic and zen tour. Sucks. In logic I can change the I/o configuration to monitor on say 33/34 but i haven’t tried it.
It would need to be changed in the antelope software too as that changes the internal IO routing of the hardware. Otherwise logic will output to 33&34 but the antelope will send out to 1&2 to monitors so you’ll hear nothing. If you change both logic and Antelope to 33&34 it should work fine!
Caught me at the right time! I use an Audient Nero monitor controller as I have two pairs of monitors. So I can go headphones out of that if need be. I love the interface. I have two of them!
@@OliverShillito do you mean the monitor controller or the interface lol I’m looking at the gen4 or synergy 32 but the price of the gen 4 is so good for what it gives imo.
I’m not sure if that is true in terms of giving u the outputs. Just re-route where you want your monitors to come out from. I recently did this with the Gen4 also. It wasn’t clear at first but you can do this in the matrix and therefore change antelopes 1-2 to be something else
You can but the issue is, the antelope software forces you to use two of the DAW outputs. Meaning if you are using all 128 channels, you can't use 2 of them as they need to be reserved for monitors. In my case, using 32 ins and outs, it means I can't use 2 of the IO as Hardware Inserts as they need to be reserved for the monitors, so in essence, you're losing 2 outputs. What Antelope need to do is add 2 more DAW outs specifically for the monitors in the software that do not affect the other analogue ins and outs.
@@dsmokrovic just as good as the Gen 3. I don’t hear any difference between them really. They are fairly transparent sounding so I guess that is a good thing!
I basically love the unit's specs and it suits all of my needs. HOWEVER on another UA-cam revew I just learned that because of the number of monitor I/O's this apparently limits the DAW buffer size to max 512. This makes the unit completely useless for me and I cannot crasp what on earth Antelope developers have been thinking... 😞
This is to do with the limit of thunderbolt. If you have 128 I/O, your buffer size can only be 512 max. Watch this space though. I have heard on the grapevine they may have a fix in the works for this, so hang tight!
@@OliverShillito I understand the reason, but it's still a complete no-go for me as I work Pro Tools native and need 1024 buffer size. Hope you are right that they will fix it.....
@jeasperkrll6528 I am 95% confident it’ll be fixed. I mean all they’d need to do in theory is have a driver that limits the I/O to 64 and unlocks 1024. It can’t be that hard to add into the software as an option! Even so, since working on 512 I honestly haven’t noticed any difference in PT. I’m working on an M1 Max Mac Studio but I’ve never hit the buffer so I guess I’ve gotten lucky!
I have gen 3 and I route 49/50(33-48 is my adat outs) from DAW(playback) to monitor outs just fine and I dont lose any of my 32 analog outs. I don't use pro tools though. Also are the converters the same in both gen 3 and 4?
No, there has been a minor upgrade from Gen 3 to Gen 4 but in real world terms yes they are basically the same.
@@OliverShillito Ok thanks.
Does this unit also have the automatic delay compensation for analog hardware inserts like the Galaxy 32 Synergy Core has?
No it doesn’t because you’d need pro tools HDX for that and I believe the Galaxy is a HDX interface. So it would actually be Pro Tools and the HDX cards doing the delay compensation, not the Galaxy.
@@OliverShillito Hi Oliver, that is not correct. Andrew Masters (his channel is called STUDIO TIME) made a video about the Galaxy in his studio and this unit does have automatic delay compensation (even without the HDX card from Avid).
He may be using HD Native then without a HDX card but for sure it’s a pro tools HD thing. Pro Tools Studio does not offer automatic delay compensation for hardware. Only for plugins.
I have the same problem w giving up 1&2 for monitoring w Logic and zen tour. Sucks.
In logic I can change the I/o configuration to monitor on say 33/34 but i haven’t tried it.
It would need to be changed in the antelope software too as that changes the internal IO routing of the hardware. Otherwise logic will output to 33&34 but the antelope will send out to 1&2 to monitors so you’ll hear nothing. If you change both logic and Antelope to 33&34 it should work fine!
@ that was quick response lol.
It’s been almost a year, how you do like the interface now? Also how do you monitor on headphones if needed ?
Caught me at the right time! I use an Audient Nero monitor controller as I have two pairs of monitors. So I can go headphones out of that if need be. I love the interface. I have two of them!
It isn’t perfect but bang for buck what you get for your money. I don’t see anything better out there right now!
@@OliverShillito do you mean the monitor controller or the interface lol
I’m looking at the gen4 or synergy 32 but the price of the gen 4 is so good for what it gives imo.
I’m not sure if that is true in terms of giving u the outputs. Just re-route where you want your monitors to come out from. I recently did this with the Gen4 also. It wasn’t clear at first but you can do this in the matrix and therefore change antelopes 1-2 to be something else
You can but the issue is, the antelope software forces you to use two of the DAW outputs. Meaning if you are using all 128 channels, you can't use 2 of them as they need to be reserved for monitors. In my case, using 32 ins and outs, it means I can't use 2 of the IO as Hardware Inserts as they need to be reserved for the monitors, so in essence, you're losing 2 outputs. What Antelope need to do is add 2 more DAW outs specifically for the monitors in the software that do not affect the other analogue ins and outs.
How's the sound of Orion gen4 to you?
@@dsmokrovic just as good as the Gen 3. I don’t hear any difference between them really. They are fairly transparent sounding so I guess that is a good thing!
I basically love the unit's specs and it suits all of my needs. HOWEVER on another UA-cam revew I just learned that because of the number of monitor I/O's this apparently limits the DAW buffer size to max 512. This makes the unit completely useless for me and I cannot crasp what on earth Antelope developers have been thinking... 😞
This is to do with the limit of thunderbolt. If you have 128 I/O, your buffer size can only be 512 max. Watch this space though. I have heard on the grapevine they may have a fix in the works for this, so hang tight!
@@OliverShillito I understand the reason, but it's still a complete no-go for me as I work Pro Tools native and need 1024 buffer size. Hope you are right that they will fix it.....
@jeasperkrll6528 I am 95% confident it’ll be fixed. I mean all they’d need to do in theory is have a driver that limits the I/O to 64 and unlocks 1024. It can’t be that hard to add into the software as an option! Even so, since working on 512 I honestly haven’t noticed any difference in PT. I’m working on an M1 Max Mac Studio but I’ve never hit the buffer so I guess I’ve gotten lucky!
@@OliverShillito Let's hope they will fix it. I am always on 1024 when mixing natively.
@@jeasperkrll6528 Hi there, thinking of buying this, have they fixed this?
You have 128 channels so I don’t think two is really gonna matter. Why are people making a big deal about this?