@@cableninja318 Well, yeah, that's like saying Inglorious Bastards isn't as compelling a story as Saving Private Ryan. Both are good, one is just far and away superior to the other.
@@dominoprime Break into a gun owner's house. If you get shot, it'll probably be with a hollow-point round to prevent overpenetration through walls. Those rounds are not allowed by the geneva suggestion, but the person who shot you probably won't get prosecuted
@@dominoprime It's not because they didn't sign it. Geneva convention, chapter I, article 2 "Application of the convention": "The Conventions apply to a signatory nation even if the opposing nation is not a signatory, but only if the opposing nation "accepts and applies the provisions" of the Conventions." Also your goverment probably signed it, so as a citizen you are under it's protection during wartime.
@@arbynChief617 Launching Nukes from foreign land without their citizen knowledge is defense? Even Reagan in the Game acknowledge that it was blatanly illegal and wrong at the same time by trying to delete all their data about it
Some of these aren’t war crimes. Human shields are only a warcrime if the human shields are civilian or non-combatants. If you take an enemy soldier and use his body to shield your own from his comrades, that’s just a combat tactic. Also, killing defenseless enemies that are unaware of their surroundings is not a warcrime if they haven’t surrendered. Killing injured enemies is only a warcrime if they are being treated in an area clearly marked as a medical zone. Edit: also not a warcrime to attack religious or cultural sites if they have been militarized by your opponent. Land mines are a warcrime only if you’ve planted them without marking their position for future removal. Otherwise, it’s legal unless you’ve signed some other sort of agreement to not use land mines. Napalm is also legal to use so long as there are not large concentrations of civilians nearby.
Napalm (and other types of incendiary weapons) was banned by one of UN convention in 1980. USA just didn't agreed on it in terms of not using against military too~
@@ozza1785 banned...yes....but several countries havent signed it....and if one country uses it, the other is legally allowed to use it also. Doesnt matter if theu signed it or not... Warcrime classification is sometimes confusing when it comes to weaponry and other areas...
The human shields are kinda if-fy since they should be treated as a POW already since the player managed to disarm and hold them captive. The killing defenseless enemies, I can agree with you that they’re most likely not war crimes. You’re correct on landmines as well but it should be ensured that the mines can avoid killing civilians (i.e. the scientists) through warnings or self-destruction when the battle’s over.
“We got a job to do”. side note, it bothers me that Cold War went with the silent protagonist. I was hoping bell would be his own person and speak during cutscenes and gameplay
@@faaznoushad1718 true, he does get dialogue options but, as you said he doesn’t have a voice actor. A VA would definitely add in the campaign in missions such as Fractured jaw or the one where he is interrogated to help find Perseus
And if they thought "oooo but what about Non-binary or classified" just don't give THEM so it can be full self-insert, but give male and female voices so we can at least listen to something
2:36 minor detail but that should say Navy, those are Navy/Marine Corps Phantoms dropping the Napalm. Air Force phantoms deployed in ‘Nam had 3-4 tone camouflage patterns while fleet Phantoms had grey and black paint.
Adler is actually the only good person in the whole game, he found Bell who was bleeding out, he brought him to a hospital and gave him a job, What a good lad
I would have loved to see an ending where Bell opposes US imperialism and Soviet nationalism and leaves alone from Solovetsky after killing Perseus when he refuses to order the detonation of Greenlight. That would have been a true heroic and bittersweet ending.
Adler: *enters elevator* Makaraov: Remember-No Russian Adler: Doesnt give af Makarov: *starts shooting the soviets* Alder in his mind: at least we got an easy Escape route
From what I remember, the use of Napalm isn’t a war crime when used against combatants. Only when used against civilians does it become a war crime but that comes with most if not all weapons.
2:42 Napalm wasn’t illegal until after the Vietnam war which is when the mission takes place so not technically a war crime until latter in the Cold War. Napalm was agreed to stop being used by the generals and the scientists that created it after Vietnam because of the fires it caused and just how deadly it was.
Im prettu sure that you can count Lubyanka mission as terror attack - it's a goverment facility, located in the middle of capital city, filled with civilians, it gets attecked by american CIA agents (invasion btw) using explosives without even making sure that all civs escaped And even after that they start killing guards that is not even soliders
Only a war crime if they're bailing out of a crippled plane. Paratroopers are armed and legal targets, a downed pilot isn't about to try and kill you when he lands
Omega group was Nazi Germany not the Soviet Union. In the story, the Soviet Union during their push to Berlin, discover the Nazi facility and lock it down so the Zombies don’t get out. Also the zombies seen in the campaign aren’t real, they’re a part of Belle’s imagination so those zombies are neither German nor Soviet.
That end bit was perfect, technically mw 2019 and black ops are in same universe, so maybe, just maybe, the other ones are and Adler could’ve killed makarov
Wait hold up giving jobs is a war crime? Some random General: Hey Johnson I got a job for you go help Pat over there Johnson: Get down on the ground! Giving jobs is a war crime!
“Following its use in wartime, the Geneva Convention argued the morality of the weapon whether or not it is humane to be used on a human life. Although napalm has yet to be outlawed, its use, in all circumstances, is to be banned from involving civilians as the primary target.” Napalm not banned, use it all you want boys
@@LG-dr6kc We'll all remember that one day and even its former allies and enemies when it comes back to bite them in the balls... with a taste of their own native medicines.
We'll all remember that one day and even its former allies and enemies when it comes back to bite them in the balls... with a taste of their own native medicines.
What are the mario brother views on war crimes? Mario- The rules of war should be followed even if they are your enemies Luigi- *War crime or not, just go shoot em up*
Under the Gevena convention napalm can be used as long as no collated damage is certain. So calling in a napalm strike on a jungle packed with enemies is ok.
For lethal take downs to how it appears written as long as you are capable of taking prisoners' safely you are required to take them but if in doing so places you in jeopardy you are able to deny it. An example would be the airborne operations at Normandy
At 10:10 I'm pretty sure the razing of the safe house was done by Hudson and a few others because of you look closely at the person shouting orders you can see Hudson unless I'm mistaken.
"when we, the US military that is all over the world, commit war crimes, is for the greater good, we do it so you can live peacefully, now come enlist and go kill brown people for oil companies"
Some of these things wouldn't necessarily classify as war crimes. Special Ops are even told sometimes they have to break rules rules in order to survive.
![11 Minutes of War Crimes [Star Wars Rebels]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/c5i1CHp2FFU/mqdefault.jpg)
I used 90% of my human shields as suicide bombers
Hol up
Uhhhhh. GOD BLESS AMERICA
If someone was behind cover I would do this
I used like 95% of mine
@@xanderschowalter9406 *EVERY. POSSIBLE. ENEMY. IS. A. BOMB.*
*Killa Queen*
Watching this after beating the story and hearing "We have a job to do" is weird. Gives it a whole new meaning
Not as compelling as bioshock.
@@cableninja318 Well, yeah, that's like saying Inglorious Bastards isn't as compelling a story as Saving Private Ryan. Both are good, one is just far and away superior to the other.
Ye gave me flashbacks to "Would you kindly" from Bioshock
We have a job to do
When I replay the game for the bad ending it makes me more so want to get the bad ending base on moral choice really.
“Adler might be correct. Insurgents and terrorist are not protected under the Geneva convention since they never signed it”
Geneva Suggestion anybody?
@@dominoprime Only one way to find out.
@@dominoprime Break into a gun owner's house. If you get shot, it'll probably be with a hollow-point round to prevent overpenetration through walls. Those rounds are not allowed by the geneva suggestion, but the person who shot you probably won't get prosecuted
@@dominoprime CIA: Yes
@@dominoprime It's not because they didn't sign it.
Geneva convention, chapter I, article 2 "Application of the convention":
"The Conventions apply to a signatory nation even if the opposing nation is not a signatory, but only if the opposing nation "accepts and applies the provisions" of the Conventions."
Also your goverment probably signed it, so as a citizen you are under it's protection during wartime.
All other nations: is not fair violate the Geneva Conventions
Usa and Ussr : My God it’s 5 pm. It’s time to commit some war crime
I mena that's why these agencies exist so the countries can do shit with deniability, although now drones are replacing them
Add China, most African nations, and all of the middle east to that list and I agree
Geneva Convention? More like Geneva suggestion
@@judegiolitto3972 Overused joke.
Ex Yugoslavia:hold my beer.
Real life: Geneva convention.
Black ops: Geneva suggestions.
Nah even in real life it's a suggestion.
Seriously, if anyone actually follows the convention as it is, then wars will be stuck in WW1 levels
@@filthymolotovite That was like the most illegal war buddy
@@markm204 I meant in terms of gain, not what it used
@@filthymolotovite true I agree, that's why both sides try to win at all costs to cover up their crimes
I love how when the nukes are detonated, Perseus’ war crime counter went from like 15 to 70.
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"Black ops"?
You mean "War Crime Special Forces"?
Edit: this is just a dumbass joke.
well they did admit everything they did was illegal
Snowflakes
Everything the fucking CIA and special forces do I illigal nothing is good they will erase everyone
@@Johnpork.0 Yes and woods even said so
@@jsaviourss8049
"Do you even know what we do?"
"Every mission we go on is illegal!"
do spec ops the line war crimes, that whole game is one big war crime
Ah yes the legendary white phosphorus
@@YunyunUnion 40-50x Killing Civilians
so just upload the whole game?
He's gonna have a lot of fun counting the war crimes while making the video
@Darth Vader i think most of the players knew they were, which holds Walker accountable
Adler "defensive Nukes" where the most funny involuntary joke in the whole game
Well Hudson was the one who was involved with the plan Adler was forced to help prevent the disaster associated with it
I mean he ain't wrong. The nukes were there to deter a Soviet invasion, not to invade the Soviet Union.
@@arbynChief617 They where for destroy, not for invade
@@Fulcrox so stopping a Soviet invasion is not defense?
@@arbynChief617 Launching Nukes from foreign land without their citizen knowledge is defense?
Even Reagan in the Game acknowledge that it was blatanly illegal and wrong at the same time by trying to delete all their data about it
Moral of the story in War:
1. Grant the enemies a quick death
2. No disguises
3. No torture
4. No genocide
Blah blah blah
Coisston but where's the fun in that?
@@sirshotty7689 getting executed dosent seem that fun
BORING
Yeetus Yeetus420 that's because you decided to be on the losing side.
Boring
Adler saying “we gotta job to do” is like Dutch saying “I got a plan”!
"I didn't want to hurt mason or woods so here's helen getting executed 2 more times" 😂
I would have done the other way around. I like Helen but the other two are overrated.
Alder: “Geneva convention, more like Geneva suggestion” *Throws guy off roof*
zanny?
Zanclan!!!
Some of these aren’t war crimes.
Human shields are only a warcrime if the human shields are civilian or non-combatants. If you take an enemy soldier and use his body to shield your own from his comrades, that’s just a combat tactic.
Also, killing defenseless enemies that are unaware of their surroundings is not a warcrime if they haven’t surrendered. Killing injured enemies is only a warcrime if they are being treated in an area clearly marked as a medical zone.
Edit: also not a warcrime to attack religious or cultural sites if they have been militarized by your opponent.
Land mines are a warcrime only if you’ve planted them without marking their position for future removal. Otherwise, it’s legal unless you’ve signed some other sort of agreement to not use land mines. Napalm is also legal to use so long as there are not large concentrations of civilians nearby.
Napalm (and other types of incendiary weapons) was banned by one of UN convention in 1980.
USA just didn't agreed on it in terms of not using against military too~
@@ozza1785 banned...yes....but several countries havent signed it....and if one country uses it, the other is legally allowed to use it also. Doesnt matter if theu signed it or not...
Warcrime classification is sometimes confusing when it comes to weaponry and other areas...
i played that mission, landmines were NOT visible lol
The human shields are kinda if-fy since they should be treated as a POW already since the player managed to disarm and hold them captive.
The killing defenseless enemies, I can agree with you that they’re most likely not war crimes.
You’re correct on landmines as well but it should be ensured that the mines can avoid killing civilians (i.e. the scientists) through warnings or self-destruction when the battle’s over.
citation?
Ooooh I was waiting for this since the game came out
“We got a job to do”. side note, it bothers me that Cold War went with the silent protagonist. I was hoping bell would be his own person and speak during cutscenes and gameplay
He does speak with those dialogue options, too bad he has no actual voice.
@@faaznoushad1718 true, he does get dialogue options but, as you said he doesn’t have a voice actor. A VA would definitely add in the campaign in missions such as Fractured jaw or the one where he is interrogated to help find Perseus
Yeah, it damn shame. I would love to actually hear how Bell comebacking with "Sorry Adler, but I got a jobs to do" in Ashes to ashes
@@darykeng or in end of the line he says, I’m sorry to who ever you don’t pick. It’s just the little details that turns a campaign from good to great
And if they thought "oooo but what about Non-binary or classified" just don't give THEM so it can be full self-insert, but give male and female voices so we can at least listen to something
2:36 minor detail but that should say Navy, those are Navy/Marine Corps Phantoms dropping the Napalm. Air Force phantoms deployed in ‘Nam had 3-4 tone camouflage patterns while fleet Phantoms had grey and black paint.
Adler is actually the only good person in the whole game, he found Bell who was bleeding out, he brought him to a hospital and gave him a job, What a good lad
@@Gamfluent In the end, it was Hudson's idea to kill off Bell. You can listen to the audio log #2 in redlight greenlight.
@@Gamfluent as soon as I got that ending I immediately went back and seid they were in duga
I would have loved to see an ending where Bell opposes US imperialism and Soviet nationalism and leaves alone from Solovetsky after killing Perseus when he refuses to order the detonation of Greenlight. That would have been a true heroic and bittersweet ending.
"Everything we do is ILLEGAL!!" -Woods
Adler: *enters elevator*
Makaraov: Remember-No Russian
Adler: Doesnt give af
Makarov: *starts shooting the soviets*
Alder in his mind: at least we got an easy Escape route
Me: *picks up gun
This guy: “Worst War Crime in History”
“ Every mission we go on is illegal”
Every other nation: THATS A WAR CRIME
USA and Russian: what’s a war crime ?
No speak Geneva convention
Slight correction: in “nowhere left to run”, bell isn’t killed. So it should have been:
2 friendly kills
1 friendly injured
From what I remember, the use of Napalm isn’t a war crime when used against combatants. Only when used against civilians does it become a war crime but that comes with most if not all weapons.
2:42 Napalm wasn’t illegal until after the Vietnam war which is when the mission takes place so not technically a war crime until latter in the Cold War. Napalm was agreed to stop being used by the generals and the scientists that created it after Vietnam because of the fires it caused and just how deadly it was.
Napalm still isn’t illegal to use in war against armed combatants.
Awesome video. Can you Call Of Duty: Ghosts war crimes next?
That entire game is a fucking warcrime.
I'm glad people still like to see things about the game
But at least they have some level of honesty in those games : They are the winners, so they don't get charge for war crimes.
History is written by the victors
Im prettu sure that you can count Lubyanka mission as terror attack - it's a goverment facility, located in the middle of capital city, filled with civilians, it gets attecked by american CIA agents (invasion btw) using explosives without even making sure that all civs escaped
And even after that they start killing guards that is not even soliders
I mean, "Attacking the USSR" described it well enough.
Then in multiplayer, you have players shooting at parachuting enemies.
Only a war crime if they're bailing out of a crippled plane. Paratroopers are armed and legal targets, a downed pilot isn't about to try and kill you when he lands
A B It's actually a war crime to kill a paratrooper while not armed, and it doesn't matter if the plane's crippled or isn't, believe it or not.
Geneva Convention: Is created
America & Russia immediately after that:
the Geneva Convention was formed just after the Second World War in 1949, making your joke have many flaws
No no, Original Comment is right, Soviets literally blockaded Berlin after the convention
@@CDEPIC2007 r/Iamverysmart
@@VonTheDon11 😝 I mean it’s true tho
@@CDEPIC2007 No, the first Geneva Convention was signed in 1864 ...
You forgot "Weaponizing corpses" during the "Break on Trough" mission
Zombies were probably created by the Omega group (The Soviet Union)
the game ties in with the previous zombie games as it states that the nazis found the zombies
Omega group was Nazi Germany not the Soviet Union. In the story, the Soviet Union during their push to Berlin, discover the Nazi facility and lock it down so the Zombies don’t get out. Also the zombies seen in the campaign aren’t real, they’re a part of Belle’s imagination so those zombies are neither German nor Soviet.
Your war crime committing skills are remarkable
Technically, the Cold War wasn't a war...
Won't that make all the crimes (besides the ones in Vietnam) just regular crimes?
That end bit was perfect, technically mw 2019 and black ops are in same universe, so maybe, just maybe, the other ones are and Adler could’ve killed makarov
Do a Call of Duty WW2 war crimes count
"Fuck Adler"
Yeah pretty much BO:CW in a nutshell.
I like how Adler says we have a job to do like so many times , like you have short term memory so he reminds you
war crimes in video games : *exists*
MGS V TPP : -Finally a worthy opponent,our battle will be legendary
Love the ending part :D
Wait hold up giving jobs is a war crime?
Some random General: Hey Johnson I got a job for you go help Pat over there
Johnson: Get down on the ground! Giving jobs is a war crime!
Wow this a cringy joke
@@Godzilladreamer ye
Well it's a joke in the video since *bell was brainwashed the entire game*
Cuz it’s Adler and he’s fucking jobs
Like it how you admit it was cringy afterwards
I been looking forward to this
5:02 Imagine trying to poison someone's coffee and then drinking it in front of them XD
This was amazing. More need to pay attention to this.
What about when the Russians were using Belikov as a hostage and they used gas to get him out(chemical weapons)?
I don't think it was lethal gas. I can't remember the gas they used (che- something) but it looks like a sedative/sleeping agent
Oh_Hi_Mark’s correct.
It was just a sleeping gas so nothing lethal or asphyxiating
"It's not a crime if you were never caught or it was covered up."
Tell that to Bran Stark!
1. Sayakest: Cover up.
“Following its use in wartime, the Geneva Convention argued the morality of the weapon whether or not it is humane to be used on a human life. Although napalm has yet to be outlawed, its use, in all circumstances, is to be banned from involving civilians as the primary target.”
Napalm not banned, use it all you want boys
USA: It’s free real estate
@@LG-dr6kc We'll all remember that one day and even its former allies and enemies when it comes back to bite them in the balls... with a taste of their own native medicines.
We'll all remember that one day and even its former allies and enemies when it comes back to bite them in the balls... with a taste of their own native medicines.
@@petermills3814 Fucking commies
0:16 but isn’t Adler just saying not to kill Qasim, and since the others are armed and not surrendering, does it count as no mercy?
"I didn't want to kill Mason or Woods so I executed Parks two more times" felt that one ngl
All my homies hate park
@@supersachan6839 You don't have a lot of homies. ;)
@@faaznoushad1718 simp
@@supersachan6839 Original humour.
What are the mario brother views on war crimes?
Mario- The rules of war should be followed even if they are your enemies
Luigi- *War crime or not, just go shoot em up*
Under the Gevena convention napalm can be used as long as no collated damage is certain. So calling in a napalm strike on a jungle packed with enemies is ok.
Did not expect that ending. Pretty sweet.
7:38 summary execution 8:43 and 8:49 also apply
How about you do it, but with Spec Ops: The LIne
There should just be a separate war crime list for Adler tbh.
There is a reason why Woods says every mission they go on is illegal.
1:43 agree with a thousand E
9:20 I laughed. Best part
11:35 Spoke too soon
For lethal take downs to how it appears written as long as you are capable of taking prisoners' safely you are required to take them but if in doing so places you in jeopardy you are able to deny it. An example would be the airborne operations at Normandy
Odd enough is that the Soviet Union committed far less war crimes than the US...
Edit: Did I also mention they did not sign the Geneva convention?
@Nicholas Ramirez Haltenhof Any proof of it?
@Nicholas Ramirez Haltenhof sir i don’t think anyone “lives in the user” 😳
Didnt know killing mosquitoes is a war crime
edit: it’s just a joke I made my guys
He literally said fuck mosquitoes.
that means that I’ve committed a war crime
Well I guess it's Nuremberg trials for me, and my genocide of mosquitoes
I would’ve been on death row already
@@stylisticsguy3746 And I'd have been given a summary execution.
7:15 lol “fuck Adler”
Arash reminds me of Paul Rudd from Anchorman
"I didn't want to hurt Mason and Woods." me too man, me too
Why make a counter of how many war crimes, the game is literally based off of a war of war crimes
“18. Fuck mosquitoes”
I can’t even count the number of times I’ve commited war crimes on mosquitoes
Just an idea: How about you counting War Crimes from other video games? That would be interesting.
I’m pretty sure you can body shield everybody, so...
Glad I am not the only one who noticed this
At 10:10 I'm pretty sure the razing of the safe house was done by Hudson and a few others because of you look closely at the person shouting orders you can see Hudson unless I'm mistaken.
9:26 You really just said "fuck it" and executed the girl I simp for 4 times 😭
Cool content, keep it up!
the idea of plausible deniability began to sweat during this video
The fact that those games, specially Cold War and Modern Warcrimes 2019 are basically statunitian military propaganda is kind of scary
What
what
"when we, the US military that is all over the world, commit war crimes, is for the greater good, we do it so you can live peacefully, now come enlist and go kill brown people for oil companies"
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 oh I just took that as a cliche but I see what you mean
I love America but we haven't fought a war for freedom in ages
10:10 Should be switched to a U.S. warcrime as you can see Hudson ordering the burnings if the clip wasn't cut.
When I play cod I try my best to follow the convention rules,but I didn’t know about the terrorist part
Nice, finally WE got to commit some war crimes.
I played the game thinking of your war crimes videos.
And god damn was a lot
War is war good video.
"In the Bell Tower!"
Bell: 😬😬😬
I like how most of these warcrimes weren't even war crimes at the time this game takes place
"You, you americans have rules! YOU HAVE RULES!"
Mosquitoes are not covered under the Geneva conventions.
Some of these things wouldn't necessarily classify as war crimes. Special Ops are even told sometimes they have to break rules rules in order to survive.
peace was never an option
Next up on our list
"Showing *Insert Number* World War 2 War Crimes before the Geneva Convention even existed"
10:14 Soviet 63 goes for CIA, Hudson and his men burned down that place (You can see him coming in for a moment in the original scene)
Wasn’t napalm illegal after the Vietnam war?
0:40
The rules of engagement has changed bravo six goin dark
5:45 what about the gas???
War... war never changes...
The trench shotty is a big one tbh wasn’t that thing banned
"NEIN YOU CAN'T JUST USE ZE TRENCH GUN"
"Haha Shotgun go boom"
4:01 no use of Nuke marker, also does it count as Genocide?
Well that officially makes 553 total war crimes in the black ops series.
1:02 somewhere in that truck is Bell (the main character)
2:33 Wait, if im not wrong, America didnt signed pact, that forbids use of napalm, which means they could use it
If im wrong I think Black Operations or black ops dont follow Geneva Convention idk correct if wrong
BTW, Modern Wafare(2019) is in the same universe as this game now.
Meaning that war crimes from those games count too :D