Here's What Jack Nicklaus Told Me About Releasing The Golf Club From The Top!
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2024
- I had the great fortune of meeting Mr. Jack Nicklaus about 15 years ago and asked him about releasing the golf club from the top.
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Full quote from Jack Nicklaus: "It looks like I'm purposely delaying the release of the club. But I can assure you I never tried to delay the hit or retain my wrist cock. That happens naturally, if you start with a proper grip, maintain a light grip pressure and keep your arms relaxed. It's impossible to release the club too early in the downswing -- as long as you move to your left side and swing the club from inside the target line." It would appear there is more to the story than the old saying you should just release the golf club from the top, and in this video I'll break down my conversation with the Golden Bear, and my take on this meaningful subject. I hope you enjoy!
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How do you think of releasing the golf club?
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Really timely video. There are so many different opinions on this. I love how you cycle through the different options. Thanks Mucho.
You bet, here's an additional video that ties in: ua-cam.com/video/gc07oTSlJaY/v-deo.html
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Thanks so much!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks. I finally understand the sit motion! Took 4 years of grinding. Swing speed up from 110 to 117. My aha moment was 5 days ago. So cool.
Btw rory, Xander, and sergio are the best at it. And no back issues
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So good Milo !! 🔥
Thank you sir!
That is gold sir ! >> If we can learn to the land the pressure back to the lead side while we are still in the winding phase 5:04
Exactly the fealing I'm working on and it works so damn well !! And also keep the head back at the same time !
Thanks Milo !
Love it!
One of your best videos
Thanks
Great tips
Thanks!
Great video, Milo. I love this subject because it illuminates the distinction between feel and real and modern data-based instruction and earlier pre-trackman instruction. I remember first hearing Monte Scheinblaum instruct that one should throw the lead wrist angle from the top, ulnar deviation, which blew my mind. Casting! No!!
Jack N didn't have the benefit of Hack Motion, 3D capture or even accessible slo-mo video, but even if he had, this might be an area that is not yet measurable. I've concluded that the truth is, the wrists are an "open hinge". They simply react to the rest of the bodies movement, specifically the lowering of the lead arm. If the pivot point, which is the left hand, is moving faster than speed of the "unhinging" than the angle between the trail wrist and the left arm will actually decrease, so it will measure on Hack Motion or look on camera as if one is "holding the angle". However, it the pivot point is moving slower or not at all, the angle will increase and it will look as if someone is throwing the angle--when in either case, the lead wrist is simply passive. Interestingly, your preferred grip works really well with the trail wrist extension and the ulnar/radial deviation of the lead wrist. In other words, one can ulnar deviate from the top and it doesn't affect the right wrist extension, which is where lag and forward-shaft lean come from. I love the way this feels with a strong lead hand and "neutral" trail hand.
Cheers!
I believe the wrist are as you said an open hinge just as it is in a throw muscular effort only impedes the correct timing.
Great comment! Lots to unpack and mentally digest. Next is the physical execution of. I recently saw a coach say slow left hand and fast right, which makes some sense. Nicholas once said that the right arm just goes along for the ride .
I will admit I have not been able to do the hockey stick drill. What has worked wonders for me is using a combination of Milo's drills. I used the hanger training aid, i stand the club up on the way back, and if i land on my left leg, only then can my hips unwind properly. As someone who has been early extending for years, I now know how important landing on the left side actually is. If you don't land on that left side to start the downswing, you can forget clearing the hips. Correct me if I am wrong Milo.
Glad you’re seeing progress even if you haven’t gotten the hockey drill down.
Excellent video, it should be a primer for understanding the true power source of the golf swing..
Thanks for watching Michael!
Hi Milo, I noticed after your pressure shift you start to unwind your upper body/head towards the target vs others who pressure shift and keep their back towards the target. Are those 2 just different styles of releasing? Do you prefer one over the other? Thanks!
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If you want to "hold off" and hit a low, chippy 7-iron 170yds into the wind, would you consider that "fighting the release." Like for the Foundation 2 swing, am I actively fighting to do the REVERSE of flipping the club?
It's a very useful shot for me. I'm just trying to understand it.
(I joined Milo's academy about a month ago and my handicap has melted. No, I'm not paid. I've been grinding pretty hard for about 7 years and Milo has is it figured out the best, in my opinion.)
Yes, F2-style is great for those sorts of shots! Thanks so much for following along and great to hear you are seeing progress 👊.
Always appreciate your video's Milo. Could you also define this move to the left as "recentering"?
Yes some have
I just noticed that it's a release from the top, not a throw from the top. I believe it's let go of tension (and loosen the grip and forearms) at the top perhaps.
You and I are on the same page.
Have you seen the posture pod I was able to come across one was curious if you that it’s good or worth it thanks Milo
It’s a good product for helping you understand correct pelvic movement
Using a downshift board as Milo suggests is the very definition of athleticism .
Doing so is much easier said than done
This is an amazing video and explanation! One question for you: if you never release the club, could that be a cause for shanking? I imagine that holding tension in the downswing can lead to an open face and hitting the dreaded hosel shot.
Depends on how you do it. One way I control trajectory is by doing just that but the hands still have to work around the arc.
@@MiloLinesGolf appreciate the explanation, thank you Milo!
Any time!
What Jack means is that you don't drag the handle, the right arm has to straighten even if the wrist angle is held. Better players have to fire their arms to catch up to their rotation but most high handicappers are the opposite. See it every time I play.
Thanks for sharing
For me it's one motion from start to finish, for me its not a backswing and downswing its one motion while staying in balance. Good video ty.
Love that!!
Milo, everything you described here happens because people are simply swinging in the wrong direction. If you swing in the proper direction all these things happen naturally and out of necessity not out of a manipulated effort. Nearly everyone is under a false perception of how the golf club works and they don't even know it. Therefore they try to make the club do what they think it should do but that's not how a golf club works so they just keep trying harder and harder until they're so frustrated that the clubs end up at the bottom of the lake. It's frustrating to see a good player use a club with little effort and yet no matter how hard they try it won't work for them and they never ask themselves, "maybe he's using it differently than I am?"
Yes most people swing directly to the ball and nothing good happens with that concept
@@MiloLinesGolf Excuse me if I sound condescending, I don't mean to be, but I don't think you're quite understanding. What most everyone is attempting to do is move the clubhead in the direction of the desired ball flight. Essentially they're trying to push the ball toward the target rather than hitting the ball and sending it toward the target. Those two actions are very different. That's what's so unique about a golf club. It's like no other tool that we know. The golf club is not a baseball bat, cricket bat, tennis racket or hockey stick, it's completely different and works in a way that is very counter-intuitive and literally everyone has an idea or perception as to how it works which is completely false and they're completely unaware of it. I'm working on a video comparing a golf club to a boomerang. I imagine you know how to throw a boomerang and if you do you also know that anyone who doesn't know how, usually thinks they do know how, until they try what they think they need to do and it fails miserably. Then, because they're so sure of their belief, they usually blame the boomerang and say, "this thing sucks. It doesn't work." When someone shows them how to throw it correctly they often go into a long rant about how and why they believed what they did, as if anyone cares. It's like a student getting a math problem wrong - they always want to explain why they got it wrong. I had a math professor who would immediately shut this down. "Do not infect the rest of the class with why you got the answer wrong! We only care about getting it correct." The point is it's an ego thing. People have a hard time accepting the fact that their most fundamental belief, something they've believed for years, is absolutely wrong.
Also makes me think of George Knudson advice.
He was a striker
In order to better understand your video here, could you please define “release”? or in other words, WHAT are you “releasing”?
In my view release is the most over used term in golf and my definition is the unwinding of loaded wrist angles.
I like that explanation. What would you say is the percentage of right arm ve left arm for generating power ? Nicholas once said ..the right arm just goes along for the ride. Thank you for a great lesson and drill !!
@@jmack619 yeah. right arm just goes along for the ride like when you throw a ball
@@shibazzmcgurk5354 I should have added , he said the left arm hits the ball, right arm just goes along for the ride. Maybe the opposite is also ok ?
@@jmack619 I have no idea both of my arms feel like structured ropes so it’s hard to say which is being used more
You did, yes.
What is your comment in regards to?
Milo did Jack talk about external rotation or anything resembling a baseball pivot? The answer is no. Jack never flatten the golf club nor were his shoulders 15 to 25 degrees open at impact. Why? Because he physically could not swing like Hogan nor should he. Joint flexibility, body type rule the order in which we move. Your personal golf swing is fantastic but how can your method be the preferred method when everyone is built different. Big Jack reverse C full random release & threw the club down the target. Your preferred method does not align with this swing model. Just saying what I feel needs to be said & same goes for EliteSchools. No question mid core - low core looks more circular on the shaft plain but obviously it’s not preferred for some or most players. Glad you are trying to bring it back to reality for most players over 40 - 50 thanks 😊
First off anyone that has worked with me for any period of time knows that I’m not really a method teacher and I will taylor my approach to the students needs. You are correct that our mobility and body type plays a very significant role in how we swing and those elements are fluid. As a player gets into better shape or ages changes in how they swing will occur. There is no one way to swing a club but the principles of how we load and unload most efficiently as humans are constant but what that will look like is individual
Oh and in the clinic Jack gave our membership he did talk quite a bit about how a baseball swing and side arm throwing motion has many similarities to the golf swing. Jack flattened the shaft more than most but it was coming from more upright so it never looked super “shallow” I’d also argue that Jack’s pattern of more extension and lateral movement in the pelvis is much harder on the body than more rotary patterns. He had multiple injections in his spine starting in his teens and later many hip and back surgeries.
Milo - Jack swing was extremely hard on the body. Metal spikes hanging back ect. But without any question Jacks shoulders at impact were not open to any degree you proclaim is the preferred method. Personally, I like your swing better than Mr. Nicklaus - but Jacks going to look more like Matt Wolf or Miller Barber than you! Jack swung his arms ferociously & never stuck his finish in light he played a fade. There was little torso rotation as you strongly suggest in the majority of your videos. This goes back to a players rotator cuff flexibility xyz. In the end the “player with the best set of hands” will be able to save it, in the end.
Tiger most likely had the best set of hands in our lifetime. Appreciate the video & reply. Thanks for your help 😊
You DID communicate the information Milo.
Thanks for watching!
I bet your neighbors love your net in the backyard
My neighbor has one of his own haha.
From top of BS to impact is less than 1/4 second. That is too short a time to know where are hands are in space in real time. Too short a time to consciously control the complex chain action.
There is time at top of BS for a singular intention.
Get the intention correct and let the body move where it needs to move is all that we can do.
No one can consciously control body parts after the DS begins is the folly of golf instruction.
I disagree. Although changes may appear slight, I think it can have a drastic effect on the shot. Watch this: ua-cam.com/video/gc07oTSlJaY/v-deo.html
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These are examples of different intents.
If you think you can consciously control your body once DS has begun, then
have a person or lights of different color give you a signal once DS has already begun
eg green light means Tip out, yellow means casting, and red means Holding
Clearly 1/4 second is too short a time period to consciously control this complex chain action
once DS begins. Dont try.
A person can most certainly screw up or disrupt the chain reaction in the downswing with improper concepts.
@@MiloLinesGolf Every complex chain action requires a singular intent.
Change any link within that chain action and the singular intent has to be changed.
Change the singular intent and the complex chain action will be different.
The only time we have for that singular intent is before the DS begins.
At about 7:05 of the video Milo starts to glow like the angel he is
Hahaha the light aligned