@@anathardayaldar I think that was the random elite starter mob spawning in a random galaxy that we just started colonizing. Thus it won against the sole colonization fleet and got absolutely stomped over the next couple turns as everything arrived from the main bases of humanity.
Im slightly confused by the title and the „sentance” Does the size mean like actual height of a human or the amount of ships- because ive just been imagining fly-sized aliens with fly sized ships fighting against human sized ships
First Story: Humans are Tyranids. Second Story: "Beeotch, we went from horse drawn carriages to landing on our moon in the span of one of our lifetimes. Don't mock our tech-fu.'
@@SC-zq6cu Didn't say solely horse power. Would you accept 'horse power was common?'. Horse drawn carriages and carts were in widespread use through to late 1940s even in western industrialised countries. Even in cities domestic deliveries of groceries, milk, ice and bread were common in many areas through to the 60s. Horses were so well trained they simply stopped at each house while the single delivery person went inside the property, some didn't even need reigns. Germany invaded Soviet Union with 750,000 horses for transport. Mechanised was only a fraction of transport. Lost 6-7 million horses on Eastern front. It is POSSIBLE the engineers designing the moon landing could have had fresh milk and eggs for their breakfast delivered in the morning by horse drawn cart.
@@SC-zq6cu Well, it could be rephrased as "The first mechanical terrestrial transportation not requiring a fixed area of transportation (such as rails)"
@@SC-zq6cu Actually it is true, as horse-drawn carriages were still in use well up to the 20th century. Trains were not good for delivering house to house, after all.
Orthellians: "You are about to take the full force of a star...it will kill you...". Humans: "Only if i die...". Orthellians: " Yeah..thats what killing you means..."
"Alright what do we need?" Not enough gravity on any planet to make it. We're stumped." "The sun has a lot of gravity." "Now you're thinking like a human."
@@МихаилРозов-ю9п If what you need is actual gravity, simulating gravity wouldnt help as that wont produce gravitational waves hence no increase in gravitons (thats what we theorize would be needed for an time/space altering technology).
@@RedwoodTheElf hum... gravitons are purely theoretical. They haven't been proven or disproven... Don Lincoln, Fermilab senior physicist: “Gravitons are a theoretically reputable idea, but are not proven. So if you hear someone say that ‘gravitons are particles that generate the gravitational force,’ keep in mind that this is a reasonable statement, but by no means is it universally accepted. It will be a long time before gravitons are considered part of the established subatomic pantheon.”
Ah yes. Humans really have no chill when it comes to technological advancement. Tell a human we can't do something, and humans will figure out a way to do it, and find a way to do it better.
Apparently within the past three months alone several “revolutionary methods of energy generation” were put on market, though I still don’t know where to find half of them
@@szeth5287 I haven't heard about those but every early summer I always see those 'teen invents powerful cheap AC device that keeps your home cool with only tap water (and/or ice)' commercials. Such crap, the design is called a swamp cooler and it's been around for ages. And even if it uses ice you're just soaking up the heat your freezer removed from the water and tossed into the room to make the ice in the first place. Where do they claim the energy comes from?
It implies that the humans noticed that their FTL was already better than the galactic alliance they wanted to join before. So they decided "screw it, we'll make our own alliance." :P
@@sjmcc13 I would say that there's still manufacturing capabilities to consider; but that also depends on how much other races actually had at the time. I could see humanity beating them in that department because of how fast they can move things around, but don't know how much of a gap there would be for them to overcome.
Feels Like the second Part of another story Were the Aliens Drove the Humans Out of the Galaxy Just to Catch a Transmission over the human "Homeworld": "Andromeda-comand, this is Milkyway-comand, distress call receved, First releave group allerted, 15 battlefleets en Route"
Say what you will about our tech level; our theories are centuries ahead of ourselves, to the point where we've even done the math for some superstructures, includong what properties of material we'd need. Larry niven was fond of this math.
And we can't even test our theory for the sheer magnitude of the energy needed to test them, even assuming we grow our capabilities by an order of magnitude every 20 years.
We're pretty sure we know how to make better stuff than anybody else. Sadly, we're still working on steps 2,5, and 7-10 of our 20 part universal domination plan.
If you need intense gravity, the CENTER of the Sun is a horrible place to get it. This is because gravity is caused by mass, and at the center of the sun, the sun's mass is all around you equally, pulling you with gravity in all directions equally, and as a result, your net gravity is ZERO. You're not being pulled anywhere and whatever is just off the center won't experience any noticeable gravity. In order to get the strongest gravity from the sun, you don't want to be in the center. You want to be just outside the sun, like right on its non-existant surface so that all of the sun's mass is on one side of you so that all of the sun's gravity is pulling in more or less the same direction and none of the sun's mass is pulling in the other direction. Now, if what you really want is the high pressure created by the sun's gravity pulling all its matter towards its center, the center of the sun is an excellent place to be.
I think...... the high gravity in the sun is what is fusing together the heavier atoms necessary to build the FTL ships the way the aliens build them. We just dove into the sun to harvest them.
@@catdust "Surface" gravity of the Sun would be somewhere around 27 or 28 gravities, while Jupiter's is only about 2-3 gs, depending on how exactly you define "surface" for a gas giant.
There is a bit of a misunderstanding on how gravity works in the second one. We're not literarily attracted to the centre of mass but to all of the mass of an object. So the deeper you go into an object the less gravitational pull you feel because it's being counter acted by the mass behind you, until it reaches 0 in the centre. Meaning the centre of the sun is probably the only place in our solar system where we wouldn't feel it's gravity.
I assumed they mixed gravity and pressure. Its under extreme pressure that the nature of different elements and molecules take on radically different natures and properties. Ice^6 would burn you alive, if you weren't already an unrecognizable smear of a paste at that pressure. Heat & pressure are marvelous solids become liquids, compounds become metallic, liquids can act solid and out normal rules & common understandings no longer apply. But that does not discount that there are some industrial and manufacturing opportunities in both low and high gravity situations as well.
Wouldn't feel gravity and not effected by gravity are very different things you would still be subject to massive gravity it would just be pulling equally in all directions, this would have a lot of implications in material sciences because you could make perfectly symmetrical stressed elements while in Flux and then cool them locking in that perfect symmetry.
@@nopeleslie2176 Was thinking this as well. Sure you'd float like you were weightless in the center of the sun, but you'd still feel immense gravity pulling outward on you. Would be interesting to see what kind of materials/parts could be made in such an environment. Precision on the subatomic scale no doubt. :P
@@nopeleslie2176 I mean, considering the sun has massive tides and is a roiling ball of gas under stupid pressure, I'm assuming that the 'precise gravitational center' is gonna be a constantly shifting target. And even if you were at the center of it and somehow stayed there... the tidal forces from that are gonna be psychotic. Even if you somehow survive sitting literally in the center of a constantly exploding fusion bomb, the gravitational tidal forces are gonna be bad enough to rip apart almost anything.
@@tirnos739 when you consider that humanity has sheilds capable of resisting the pressure, and apparently the gravity (the thrust requirements to break out from inside the core of the sun are frankly insane), it begs the question of why we'd even need to go to the centre of the sun anyway to play with gravity, we already have powerful enough engines and sheilds as to be capable of manipulating it ourselves on a scale which would be frankly scary. Hell with sheilds and drives that strong, our sublight speeds are going to be 0.99c and above.
"weapons that could destroy almost anything" vs. "sheilds that protect against almost anything" gives off "I brought my forcefield dog!" "And I brought my dinosaur! Who eats forcefield dogs!" vibes lmfao.
Okay, only been listening for a few second but "eight or nine orders of magnitude" is literallty 100million or a billion to one. We already have billions, so that would put us ub the quintillion range from here. Okay, that's out there. I already love the story, and Agro. Humanity!
Honestly It could be quit a bit higher then that, as pointed out that we could have been extragalactic in origin, so if this was set in say the Andramada Galaxy or one even further away it might have been only a token force, leaving those higher order estimations still 8-9 orders lower then reality.
It sounds like ships were coming in from several hundred different galaxies. For us to have run out of room in not just one galaxy, but multiple galaxies, implies that that number might actually be low.
I was putting things at a minimum. I know, if we can figure out how to use our resources correctly, we could get to those numbers right here, in this solar system. Heck, that would be small even for that at the end of the day. I was just trying to put things into perspective. But thank you.
I think the implication was the various fleets were coming from multiple galaxies. That suggests Humanity had spread from the milky way, to enough surrounding galaxies to more or less surround the galaxy in question. A Quintillion, is likely not a high enough number in that case...
Did you just tell the humans it can be built, what materials they need and gave them ideas how to build it in the form of a test? Might as well give them the entire instructions book...
@@tzisorey Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery ;) Honestly I'm sure any writer would appreciate it. If I ever put anything out someone liked that much I sure would.
As soon as they mentioned how long they would need to wait before retesting I immediately thought they'd do that in 2 months! Didn't expect to be proved right now back to the video!
Four words in a human mind is all it takes to turn the status quo on its head: "Is that a challenge?" Oh, we so like challenges in the name of competition. And we especially love seeing the look of shock on the face of the people that set the status quo in the first place. That's why I'm kind of mad at the US goverment for constantly slashing NASA's funding over the last several decades. We could have ALREADY been settling in habitats on Mars if not for that. Or at least the moon.
NASA? Billions of dollars over budget and decades behind schedule, we'd still be wondering how to get the crew off the ISS if we had left everything to NASA.
NASA only gets about .5% of the budget. And a couple presidents back they were shut down entirely. These guys are supposed to be responsible for pushing tech into the future but just like everyone else they're getting paid pennies to do it.
The reason for no habitats on Mars is because we can't make a proper quality of life for those who go there. We have to make sure that the researchers that go there don't go insane and are in the best condition. We are about 5 years away from completing it all. There is also a presidential order to make a manned mission to Mars by 2033 but it will more likely be 2035 or so when it goes off.
Reminds me of DnD and the famous line "If it has HP it can be killed". In this case "if we know the mats to use and how to make them we're gonna make them"
Greetings, Mentlegent! For the Rhyhtm that is Algo Story 1: Tan-Hauser, I understood that reference. Our name is legion, for we are many. So very, very many! Story 2: Humanity said, "CHALLENGE ACCEPTED"
Story 1. All of those converging vectors from outside the Galactic disk... That imply that the humans are coming in from several other galaxies. Let that sink in for a moment. Story 2. And, within a mere two months, humanity changed their score of 22% to a score of 122%. Then, we played the Uno Reverse card.
This reminds me of an old, old, old, Sci fi story from Analog. In it the aliens with their huge 1,000 foot long space battle ship came to take over earth from the very weak humans. Earth was a pastoral planet with no industry, to speak of, a small population, ( only a few 100,000 or so , no defenses, the aliens had single shot rifles and revolvers, and were budding Imperialists, and they had Black and White TV OOOH! (The Technology) The humans welcomed them with open arms and gradually the Aliens were assimilated or at least accepted into Human society. Many of the Aliens lower ranks just seemed to desert to human wives or husbands, and a peaceful life without the whip after a while, the officers of course were pissed at this, but with a whole planet to hide in what could they do really? They had trouble getting the Humans to do anything, as all they seemed to want to do was lay around and talk about a life they would have in the stars? The Humans would listen and start to do whatever but after a while would wander away. They tried forced labor but when it got too hard the natives would just seem to vanish? Oddly all the Humans seemed to be in perfect health? The alien commanders didn't understand this at all, they even heard rumors that the Humans had, Gasp Color TV) Which of course they knew could not be true, because if the Superior Alien Empire did not have it, how could Humans have it? After a few years and with the Alien Battle Ship now deserted, and rusting away, even the Commander had given up and gone Native with a Human wife. The humans were gathering for a celebration of some kind, most had packed as if for a long trip? There was a huge Roar and in the sky there was a huge 10 mile long Starship that was landing on top of a huge Mesa that no one seemed to ever go to. The Ex Alien Commander, was stunned as his wife mentally explained it was the passenger ship that arrived every ten years or so to visit and pick up those that wanted to journey to the stars for a new life, and pickup the returning tourists from Earth, and for the tourists to visit the home planet, and the reason the Aliens could not detect any of the manufacturing was that it was all underground and produced no pollution, as that would ruin the Pastoral Vacation Planet's appeal. There was a bit more but as it was around 40 or 50 years ago, I might have gotten some bits wrong, but the idea is there
OMG !! I remember reading that one ! That's the one where they landed their ships in a circle with the drives facing outward right ? I bought a bunch of the Analogs and Galaxy books when I was a kid, fine reading that was.
@@mstrfool I think the author is Eric Frank Russell but I don't remember the title of the story. I loved his short story Diabologic, it's one of his Terran Space Scout stories.
Ever wonder why am ace beats a king in the modern deck? An ace is pne and should logically be the lowest. It an old warning from when the cards were Tarot. Spades were swords in that. One sword can take down a king. The other warning is that one fool is all it takes to foil the best plans.
Most fun indeed :). Puts me in mind of the optimistic sci-fi we used to have before the Intersectionalist Anti-Westerners decided that the future was not something we should concern ourselves with.
Ahahahah..... Our human scientists and neet are proud people who will not take No for a answer...their will try their very best if their cant do it we will pass it to the next generation until we got the answer....as long it no impossible hope we will make it happen...
Impossible is a dirty word in science. Everything is impossible.. Right up till it isn't. The laws of reality is we know them are only best guess till we know more. Don't take much to change everything we know.
This is why some tech is not for display, because even the possibility of it triggers research and brekthroughs in that. Enigma broken code secrets and some secret palnes, thay stayed secret for decades, come to mind. Also some tech applied to weapons now as a very new thing, gives me lols, as some of it is not for some people who had that in mind, but probabl never shared it intentionally
Hahaha 😂 Yes, THIS IS how you write a good story. And it's pretty fun to both (I really like the second one ❤) Thanks for the reading! Have a good day, and take care of yourself. And be healthy in this new year 2024 (in hope it's less shitty than the three last one)
This reminded me of the Singapore public housing story. After WWII, the Singapore self-government wanted to build public housing to address an influx of immigrants etc. By the time the British colonial government came up with a report that said that it was *not* feasible, an entire district was already built. Singapore public housing became so successful, that now the British are trying to learn from us -- not just the construction, but the entire social policy. (Note: Some of my facts may be wrong, cos I misremembered, but the core of the story is correct.)
One note on the state of humanity's armor and weapons: that stalemate we have with "armor that can stop anything but our weapons, and weapons that can destroy anything but our armor," has existed since before the widespread use of gunpowder. Within a couple of decades, I expect body-armor to be available that shrugs off present-day anti-tank fire, and commonplace firearms that can punch a hole clean through an Abrams.
Well we are working on ship mounted rail gun if we can figure out a good way to make it not be such a power hog, I could easily see vehicle mounted Railguns in the near future.
Javelins and several others already do that. and they are single person operated and carried. Though do not know about abrams, my country gave bunch of those even before invasion to Ukraine, destroyed many soviet tanks. There are several designs to pierce shitboxes, but they are still not better than these antitank weapons. And some people for sure have beter ideas, I am not sharing mine, because everyone leaks tech to russians... (german and french tech in rus armor for example)
Please explain to me what body armor could not only stop a round known to pass clean through concrete and kill the guy on the other side, from penetrating you, but also to prevent the sheer shock of the impact from liquifying your internal organs if it does prevent the penetration? Unless you mean mech suits, which I would question as qualifying as body armor
Tan- hauser? "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to die." RIP Rutger
Having listened to you for a long while, I’m saddened by other voice over channels (net narrator, or sin-text specifically). They just have no emotion to their reading, and the pacing they read at is maddening. Just need you to read more then :) pickup reading infinitum on royal road. Love that story
Oh this is not what I thought from the title. For what it's worth I do imagine we could be underestimating out own actual size. If an alien civilisation evolved to rely on group intelligence to advance for example, they wouldn't need individual brains comparatively large as ours, and could be much smaller and numerous individuals.
yeah, the title gives off Hitchiker's Guide vibes of the story of the massive alien space fleet that attacked Earth, only to be accidentally swallowed by a small dog due to an error in scale.
The author from the second story doesn’t seem to realize just how old Earth is. It’s roughly 4.5 billion years old, and the universe itself is 13.5 billion years old. Our home planet is a third the age of our bloody universe, meaning earth is in fact a very old planet when you look at the facts.
There is also the fact that, due to the way heavier elements are made by stars, it's really the *newer* planets that have a larger variety of elements (especially the heavier ones).
@@randlebrowne2048 Exactly. Think how many elements that were present towards the surface of the planet that have sunk into the molten rock beneath the crust. The younger a planet is, the more elements that can be found within the solid crust.
The first story. When the Tau first met The Imperium of Man and thought they could would have no problem absorbing them into their own empire. Warhammer 40k ftw. If only 40k humans were like the humans in the 2nd story.
a population of 100 billion has an economy too small to field more than a ship or two? so are ships just stupidly expensive to build and maintain in this setting, or ?
well, all kinds of ships are stupid expensive irl. Can't imagine what would cost to fleet a battlegroup of ftl warships... Even now, every tank requires several trucks to supply everything it and the crew needs. and the trucks have needs to, and it grows exponentially. Also it depends o reliability. If you made your stuff a bit more reliable, you get huge reduction of maintenece. whick lowers upkeep a lot. which may affect how many ships humanity can have in storege and serviced. It ma not have aligned to alien standarts at all
In the first story, I am left wondering why the humans were attacking. I listened twice, to see if there were some clue left, but not obvious. Didn't find one. Just humans coming from all over and attacking every time they found someone.
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*Agro Squerill*
Way ahead of you. Loving it as much as your main channel, Second vid is really out there.
@@peterwall8191 glad you are enjoying it
I wrote the first story! It’s a huge honor to be on this channel again. Thank you guys so much for watching :)
It was good. Thank you
I really liked it. A fine example of the HFY genre.
The humans completed all the side quests before the Level 1 boss attacked.
And thank you for your efforts.
@@anathardayaldar I think that was the random elite starter mob spawning in a random galaxy that we just started colonizing. Thus it won against the sole colonization fleet and got absolutely stomped over the next couple turns as everything arrived from the main bases of humanity.
Im slightly confused by the title and the „sentance”
Does the size mean like actual height of a human or the amount of ships- because ive just been imagining fly-sized aliens with fly sized ships fighting against human sized ships
Aliens: You can't build an FTL drive out of bubblegum, tinfoil, and paper clips.
Humans: Hold my beer.
Or "What are you going to do MacGrubber? All you have are bubblegum, tinfoil, and paper clips."
Humans: Wait, I need that can. *chugs beer, and uses can for FTL drive*
All we need to do is pray to the machine spirit!
Aliens....why did that human just "drink!" the fuel?????
To be fair you would need to add some rubber bands and duct tape to the list if you want it done relatively quickly.
First Story: Humans are Tyranids.
Second Story: "Beeotch, we went from horse drawn carriages to landing on our moon in the span of one of our lifetimes. Don't mock our tech-fu.'
The fact that the second sentence isn't wrong has me feeling, idk, concerned? Proud? I honestly don't know
The second statement is technically not true: moon landing happened in 1969 while the first fully steam commercial locomotive was used at around 1830.
@@SC-zq6cu Didn't say solely horse power. Would you accept 'horse power was common?'. Horse drawn carriages and carts were in widespread use through to late 1940s even in western industrialised countries. Even in cities domestic deliveries of groceries, milk, ice and bread were common in many areas through to the 60s. Horses were so well trained they simply stopped at each house while the single delivery person went inside the property, some didn't even need reigns.
Germany invaded Soviet Union with 750,000 horses for transport. Mechanised was only a fraction of transport. Lost 6-7 million horses on Eastern front.
It is POSSIBLE the engineers designing the moon landing could have had fresh milk and eggs for their breakfast delivered in the morning by horse drawn cart.
@@SC-zq6cu Well, it could be rephrased as "The first mechanical terrestrial transportation not requiring a fixed area of transportation (such as rails)"
@@SC-zq6cu Actually it is true, as horse-drawn carriages were still in use well up to the 20th century. Trains were not good for delivering house to house, after all.
Orthellians: "You are about to take the full force of a star...it will kill you...".
Humans: "Only if i die...".
Orthellians: " Yeah..thats what killing you means..."
Humans: "Remember son, dying is gay!"
@@bulldowozer5858 Yes father.
"But did you die?!"
"Did you really think killing me would be enough to make me die?"
Heh.. Best line of the movie. It also does embody the human attitude.
"Alright what do we need?"
Not enough gravity on any planet to make it. We're stumped."
"The sun has a lot of gravity."
"Now you're thinking like a human."
Actually as a human I inform you: it is possible to just use a diving bomber to rech more than 10 g.
@@МихаилРозов-ю9п If what you need is actual gravity, simulating gravity wouldnt help as that wont produce gravitational waves hence no increase in gravitons (thats what we theorize would be needed for an time/space altering technology).
@@VRDejaVu I do believe that "Gravitons" have been disproved. As far as we can tell, there is no "Gravity Particle" that transmits gravity.
@@МихаилРозов-ю9п realistically thats just pressure
also could be a case of it needs high gravity over a period of time equalling a few days
@@RedwoodTheElf hum... gravitons are purely theoretical. They haven't been proven or disproven...
Don Lincoln, Fermilab senior physicist: “Gravitons are a theoretically reputable idea, but are not proven. So if you hear someone say that ‘gravitons are particles that generate the gravitational force,’ keep in mind that this is a reasonable statement, but by no means is it universally accepted. It will be a long time before gravitons are considered part of the established subatomic pantheon.”
Ah yes. Humans really have no chill when it comes to technological advancement. Tell a human we can't do something, and humans will figure out a way to do it, and find a way to do it better.
You can't travel faster than light.
@@citizen_grub4171 who needs lightspeed travel when you have a possible eternal breeding and brainwashing program
"Impossible? Hold my beer." kinda sums us up.
Apparently within the past three months alone several “revolutionary methods of energy generation” were put on market, though I still don’t know where to find half of them
@@szeth5287 I haven't heard about those but every early summer I always see those 'teen invents powerful cheap AC device that keeps your home cool with only tap water (and/or ice)' commercials. Such crap, the design is called a swamp cooler and it's been around for ages. And even if it uses ice you're just soaking up the heat your freezer removed from the water and tossed into the room to make the ice in the first place.
Where do they claim the energy comes from?
the second one implies that in the 200 years that weren't explained humans completely took over their region of space
Well, they apparently had the best guns shields and engines, by a large margin, likely not that hard.
It implies that the humans noticed that their FTL was already better than the galactic alliance they wanted to join before. So they decided "screw it, we'll make our own alliance." :P
The one-eyed is king among the blind, but the two-eyed is his.
@@Sanquinity with black jacks and hookers
@@sjmcc13 I would say that there's still manufacturing capabilities to consider; but that also depends on how much other races actually had at the time. I could see humanity beating them in that department because of how fast they can move things around, but don't know how much of a gap there would be for them to overcome.
Humans. Go to new galactic cluster.
Aliens. Let's attack the small species.
Humans: Time to test out the new ships.
I would rather imagine they would say: 'Send out Elon Musks hobby collection ships from the exterminated species, we shall expand his collection.'
The last one made me chuckle.
"Turned the ship into a FTL gun that shoots itself across the galaxy"
And the punchline at the end.
Feels Like the second Part of another story
Were the Aliens Drove the Humans Out of the Galaxy Just to Catch a Transmission over the human "Homeworld":
"Andromeda-comand, this is Milkyway-comand, distress call receved, First releave group allerted, 15 battlefleets en Route"
That was what I thought too.
Fleets 4-15 on route eta 1 month after alert
thers a story similare to that cant remember what it's called though if anyone does know please do tell me
@@ianhogben3472 found it, second Story ua-cam.com/video/-PB6djWVQGo/v-deo.html
It is done
@@ianhogben3472 i think it was along the lines of "the last human" or something similar
Say what you will about our tech level; our theories are centuries ahead of ourselves, to the point where we've even done the math for some superstructures, includong what properties of material we'd need. Larry niven was fond of this math.
And we can't even test our theory for the sheer magnitude of the energy needed to test them, even assuming we grow our capabilities by an order of magnitude every 20 years.
We're pretty sure we know how to make better stuff than anybody else. Sadly, we're still working on steps 2,5, and 7-10 of our 20 part universal domination plan.
Niven still blew the stability issue. Other than that you're right, nothing short of scrith would be adequate to build a Ringworld out of.
The baffled defeat in the speaker in the end was a good touch.
If you need intense gravity, the CENTER of the Sun is a horrible place to get it. This is because gravity is caused by mass, and at the center of the sun, the sun's mass is all around you equally, pulling you with gravity in all directions equally, and as a result, your net gravity is ZERO. You're not being pulled anywhere and whatever is just off the center won't experience any noticeable gravity.
In order to get the strongest gravity from the sun, you don't want to be in the center. You want to be just outside the sun, like right on its non-existant surface so that all of the sun's mass is on one side of you so that all of the sun's gravity is pulling in more or less the same direction and none of the sun's mass is pulling in the other direction.
Now, if what you really want is the high pressure created by the sun's gravity pulling all its matter towards its center, the center of the sun is an excellent place to be.
I think...... the high gravity in the sun is what is fusing together the heavier atoms necessary to build the FTL ships the way the aliens build them. We just dove into the sun to harvest them.
Yeah I think that might be what they were trying to say, but couldn't think of the proper word and used a word close enough that people can connect.
so, a better place would be Jupiter then?
Well, the story IS told from the Orthalians' perspective; 17% is very respectable, and a few misunderstandings are to be expected.
@@catdust "Surface" gravity of the Sun would be somewhere around 27 or 28 gravities, while Jupiter's is only about 2-3 gs, depending on how exactly you define "surface" for a gas giant.
I think for both stories the title "Humans Have Zero Chill" fits XD
I think it sums up the whole channel
ABSOLUTE 100% NO CHILL!!!
-Fate stay night abridged Rin Tohasaka
There is a bit of a misunderstanding on how gravity works in the second one.
We're not literarily attracted to the centre of mass but to all of the mass of an object.
So the deeper you go into an object the less gravitational pull you feel because it's being counter acted by the mass behind you, until it reaches 0 in the centre.
Meaning the centre of the sun is probably the only place in our solar system where we wouldn't feel it's gravity.
I assumed they mixed gravity and pressure. Its under extreme pressure that the nature of different elements and molecules take on radically different natures and properties. Ice^6 would burn you alive, if you weren't already an unrecognizable smear of a paste at that pressure. Heat & pressure are marvelous solids become liquids, compounds become metallic, liquids can act solid and out normal rules & common understandings no longer apply. But that does not discount that there are some industrial and manufacturing opportunities in both low and high gravity situations as well.
Wouldn't feel gravity and not effected by gravity are very different things you would still be subject to massive gravity it would just be pulling equally in all directions, this would have a lot of implications in material sciences because you could make perfectly symmetrical stressed elements while in Flux and then cool them locking in that perfect symmetry.
@@nopeleslie2176 Was thinking this as well. Sure you'd float like you were weightless in the center of the sun, but you'd still feel immense gravity pulling outward on you. Would be interesting to see what kind of materials/parts could be made in such an environment. Precision on the subatomic scale no doubt. :P
@@nopeleslie2176 I mean, considering the sun has massive tides and is a roiling ball of gas under stupid pressure, I'm assuming that the 'precise gravitational center' is gonna be a constantly shifting target. And even if you were at the center of it and somehow stayed there... the tidal forces from that are gonna be psychotic. Even if you somehow survive sitting literally in the center of a constantly exploding fusion bomb, the gravitational tidal forces are gonna be bad enough to rip apart almost anything.
@@tirnos739 when you consider that humanity has sheilds capable of resisting the pressure, and apparently the gravity (the thrust requirements to break out from inside the core of the sun are frankly insane), it begs the question of why we'd even need to go to the centre of the sun anyway to play with gravity, we already have powerful enough engines and sheilds as to be capable of manipulating it ourselves on a scale which would be frankly scary. Hell with sheilds and drives that strong, our sublight speeds are going to be 0.99c and above.
"weapons that could destroy almost anything" vs. "sheilds that protect against almost anything" gives off "I brought my forcefield dog!" "And I brought my dinosaur! Who eats forcefield dogs!" vibes lmfao.
But did you bring sharks with lasers in their heads? Or Flammable Lemons?
Nanomachine son.
Yeah...that's pretty much the history of human warfare in a nutshell.
That first story, actually had pretty good explanation for FTL, wasn't some stupid space wizard crap.
And somewhat coincides with one way that we can somewhat reasonably achieve
The alcubierre drive?
Okay, only been listening for a few second but "eight or nine orders of magnitude" is literallty 100million or a billion to one. We already have billions, so that would put us ub the quintillion range from here. Okay, that's out there. I already love the story, and Agro. Humanity!
Honestly It could be quit a bit higher then that, as pointed out that we could have been extragalactic in origin, so if this was set in say the Andramada Galaxy or one even further away it might have been only a token force, leaving those higher order estimations still 8-9 orders lower then reality.
It sounds like ships were coming in from several hundred different galaxies. For us to have run out of room in not just one galaxy, but multiple galaxies, implies that that number might actually be low.
I was putting things at a minimum. I know, if we can figure out how to use our resources correctly, we could get to those numbers right here, in this solar system. Heck, that would be small even for that at the end of the day. I was just trying to put things into perspective. But thank you.
@@andrewcalhoon6624 low, by several _thousand_ orders of magnitude.
I think the implication was the various fleets were coming from multiple galaxies. That suggests Humanity had spread from the milky way, to enough surrounding galaxies to more or less surround the galaxy in question. A Quintillion, is likely not a high enough number in that case...
Did you just tell the humans it can be built, what materials they need and gave them ideas how to build it in the form of a test?
Might as well give them the entire instructions book...
Basically Chinese expertise.
@@gkagara theres a reason chinese shit has a reputation for being cheap and breaks easily
More like the average test.
“Professor, you have seemed to have forgotten to teach us half the shit that’s in here!”
@@MrCoolguy425 Professor: That's the point: good luck in the final exam.
1:20 - Ahh yes, I remember seeing the C-beams glittering by Tan-Hauster's gate....
lol I always steal names. No ragretz.
@@misterben4360 It's not a stolen name, it's an "homage"
@@tzisorey Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery ;) Honestly I'm sure any writer would appreciate it. If I ever put anything out someone liked that much I sure would.
@@mstrfool Good writers borrow. *Great* writers steal. --me, just now
@@tzisorey LoL. Thats a like.
I enjoy all of Agro Squirrel Narrates videos
As soon as they mentioned how long they would need to wait before retesting I immediately thought they'd do that in 2 months!
Didn't expect to be proved right now back to the video!
Four words in a human mind is all it takes to turn the status quo on its head: "Is that a challenge?" Oh, we so like challenges in the name of competition. And we especially love seeing the look of shock on the face of the people that set the status quo in the first place.
That's why I'm kind of mad at the US goverment for constantly slashing NASA's funding over the last several decades. We could have ALREADY been settling in habitats on Mars if not for that. Or at least the moon.
NASA? Billions of dollars over budget and decades behind schedule, we'd still be wondering how to get the crew off the ISS if we had left everything to NASA.
NASA only gets about .5% of the budget. And a couple presidents back they were shut down entirely. These guys are supposed to be responsible for pushing tech into the future but just like everyone else they're getting paid pennies to do it.
The reason for no habitats on Mars is because we can't make a proper quality of life for those who go there. We have to make sure that the researchers that go there don't go insane and are in the best condition. We are about 5 years away from completing it all. There is also a presidential order to make a manned mission to Mars by 2033 but it will more likely be 2035 or so when it goes off.
Reminds me of DnD and the famous line "If it has HP it can be killed".
In this case "if we know the mats to use and how to make them we're gonna make them"
ah yes just ram an exotic material forge into the center of our sun
Greetings, Mentlegent!
For the Rhyhtm that is Algo
Story 1: Tan-Hauser, I understood that reference. Our name is legion, for we are many. So very, very many!
Story 2: Humanity said, "CHALLENGE ACCEPTED"
I always love good Sci Fi short stories.
Story 1. All of those converging vectors from outside the Galactic disk... That imply that the humans are coming in from several other galaxies. Let that sink in for a moment.
Story 2. And, within a mere two months, humanity changed their score of 22% to a score of 122%. Then, we played the Uno Reverse card.
woooooo new stories to fall asleep to
We just pissed off someone that consider thousands of battleships a fast reaction force.
I hate how I made a battleship that can go fast
This reminds me of an old, old, old, Sci fi story from Analog.
In it the aliens with their huge 1,000 foot long space battle ship came to take over earth from the very weak humans.
Earth was a pastoral planet with no industry, to speak of, a small population, ( only a few 100,000 or so , no defenses, the aliens had single shot rifles and revolvers, and were budding Imperialists, and they had Black and White TV OOOH! (The Technology)
The humans welcomed them with open arms and gradually the Aliens were assimilated or at least accepted into Human society.
Many of the Aliens lower ranks just seemed to desert to human wives or husbands, and a peaceful life without the whip after a while, the officers of course were pissed at this, but with a whole planet to hide in what could they do really?
They had trouble getting the Humans to do anything, as all they seemed to want to do was lay around and talk about a life they would have in the stars?
The Humans would listen and start to do whatever but after a while would wander away.
They tried forced labor but when it got too hard the natives would just seem to vanish?
Oddly all the Humans seemed to be in perfect health?
The alien commanders didn't understand this at all, they even heard rumors that the Humans had, Gasp Color TV)
Which of course they knew could not be true, because if the Superior Alien Empire did not have it, how could Humans have it?
After a few years and with the Alien Battle Ship now deserted, and rusting away, even the Commander had given up and gone Native with a Human wife.
The humans were gathering for a celebration of some kind, most had packed as if for a long trip?
There was a huge Roar and in the sky there was a huge 10 mile long Starship that was landing on top of a huge Mesa that no one seemed to ever go to.
The Ex Alien Commander, was stunned as his wife mentally explained it was the passenger ship that arrived every ten years or so to visit and pick up those that wanted to journey to the stars for a new life, and pickup the returning tourists from Earth, and for the tourists to visit the home planet, and the reason the Aliens could not detect any of the manufacturing was that it was all underground and produced no pollution, as that would ruin the Pastoral Vacation Planet's appeal.
There was a bit more but as it was around 40 or 50 years ago, I might have gotten some bits wrong, but the idea is there
OMG !! I remember reading that one ! That's the one where they landed their ships in a circle with the drives facing outward right ? I bought a bunch of the Analogs and Galaxy books when I was a kid, fine reading that was.
@@norricdaoc8746
I think you are right
yes Analog and astounding were the 2 Sci Fi mags that I really loved reading
Dang it... Now I have to find this. Already hooked..
@@mstrfool I think the author is Eric Frank Russell but I don't remember the title of the story. I loved his short story Diabologic, it's one of his Terran Space Scout stories.
@@fancylong Thank you.
don't frak with humanities.
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Those in Power, only respond to Power....
Ever wonder why am ace beats a king in the modern deck? An ace is pne and should logically be the lowest. It an old warning from when the cards were Tarot. Spades were swords in that. One sword can take down a king. The other warning is that one fool is all it takes to foil the best plans.
@@mstrfool Oh my... what happens when a pawn reaches the end of the board?!
Yeah. Don't buy into that crap. Flip the table.
@@jalexwheeler7751 Hay, just because it can doesn't mean one will. Still takes someone to take action.
Humans on second story:You fool WE HAVE UNO REVERSE.
So Humans came for the next galaxy like a Tyranid swarm. And then humans show stubbornness is better than technological skill.
Most fun indeed :). Puts me in mind of the optimistic sci-fi we used to have before the Intersectionalist Anti-Westerners decided that the future was not something we should concern ourselves with.
For the Algorithm, For the Author(s), For the Disembodied Voice!
For the algorithm and the narrator.
Fun stories, great presentation. Thanks.
Bless the Squerril
Bless the Author
These read like early Arthur Clarke shorts with aspects of Heinlein! Very good indeed!
glad you enjoyed
Thank you for the video.
I had to listen to the second story twice. Too funny 😂😂😂
4:00 Sam O'Nella triple Uh-oh. - They're Tyranids!!!
LMAO! Yeah I imagine that would come as quite a shock, there in that second story.
Ahahahah..... Our human scientists and neet are proud people who will not take No for a answer...their will try their very best if their cant do it we will pass it to the next generation until we got the answer....as long it no impossible hope we will make it happen...
Tell our scientists "That is impossible" and they just try harder (and do it sooner!)
Impossible is a dirty word in science. Everything is impossible.. Right up till it isn't. The laws of reality is we know them are only best guess till we know more. Don't take much to change everything we know.
This is why some tech is not for display, because even the possibility of it triggers research and brekthroughs in that.
Enigma broken code secrets and some secret palnes, thay stayed secret for decades, come to mind.
Also some tech applied to weapons now as a very new thing, gives me lols, as some of it is not for some people who had that in mind, but probabl never shared it intentionally
Hahaha 😂
Yes, THIS IS how you write a good story. And it's pretty fun to both (I really like the second one ❤)
Thanks for the reading!
Have a good day, and take care of yourself. And be healthy in this new year 2024 (in hope it's less shitty than the three last one)
🎶”But for such whining wheezers, they’re an engineering bunch-
Give them a rock, and they’ll invent a warp drive before lunch.”🎶
This reminded me of the Singapore public housing story. After WWII, the Singapore self-government wanted to build public housing to address an influx of immigrants etc. By the time the British colonial government came up with a report that said that it was *not* feasible, an entire district was already built. Singapore public housing became so successful, that now the British are trying to learn from us -- not just the construction, but the entire social policy. (Note: Some of my facts may be wrong, cos I misremembered, but the core of the story is correct.)
One note on the state of humanity's armor and weapons: that stalemate we have with "armor that can stop anything but our weapons, and weapons that can destroy anything but our armor," has existed since before the widespread use of gunpowder. Within a couple of decades, I expect body-armor to be available that shrugs off present-day anti-tank fire, and commonplace firearms that can punch a hole clean through an Abrams.
Working on it. Just takes a while for the giggling to die down after a test fire.
Well we are working on ship mounted rail gun if we can figure out a good way to make it not be such a power hog, I could easily see vehicle mounted Railguns in the near future.
@@Immoralsalvage A what? You mean a rail gun fitted with a ship... Right?
Javelins and several others already do that. and they are single person operated and carried. Though do not know about abrams, my country gave bunch of those even before invasion to Ukraine, destroyed many soviet tanks. There are several designs to pierce shitboxes, but they are still not better than these antitank weapons. And some people for sure have beter ideas, I am not sharing mine, because everyone leaks tech to russians... (german and french tech in rus armor for example)
Please explain to me what body armor could not only stop a round known to pass clean through concrete and kill the guy on the other side, from penetrating you, but also to prevent the sheer shock of the impact from liquifying your internal organs if it does prevent the penetration? Unless you mean mech suits, which I would question as qualifying as body armor
Good ones
"What is not impossible is merely a question of will."
The second story was epic 😂
Sir we've added enough shielding for it to survive the core of Sol!
More!
Sir we're now able to escape the Event Horizon of a black hole!
*MORE.*
Not the bug in the windshield! Anything but that!
"Now we are waiting on their deliberation" how the turn tables
Asian dad was not happy with the grade, nope, not happy at all.
Ok.. You rock.
Great stories, I enjoyed them 👍
I also hit the like & subscribe
I found the second story to be quite funny. And probably prophetic
United Terran Alliance is a good name for a space government
True.
Tan- hauser?
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time,
like tears in rain...
Time to die."
RIP Rutger
#2, well, that's some fun stuff happening)))
Forge in the SUN !
Everybody likes a feel good story. lol
For the Algorithm11!
Having listened to you for a long while, I’m saddened by other voice over channels (net narrator, or sin-text specifically). They just have no emotion to their reading, and the pacing they read at is maddening. Just need you to read more then :) pickup reading infinitum on royal road. Love that story
Oh this is not what I thought from the title.
For what it's worth I do imagine we could be underestimating out own actual size.
If an alien civilisation evolved to rely on group intelligence to advance for example, they wouldn't need individual brains comparatively large as ours, and could be much smaller and numerous individuals.
yeah, the title gives off Hitchiker's Guide vibes of the story of the massive alien space fleet that attacked Earth, only to be accidentally swallowed by a small dog due to an error in scale.
Nice
For the voice the story and the Algorithm
Sweet
We humans do love a good challenge. Especially when you tell us we scored respectfully badly
ultimate "hold my beer, s*** is about to get wild and serious"
I keep trying but I can't. I just can't.
neat
The author from the second story doesn’t seem to realize just how old Earth is. It’s roughly 4.5 billion years old, and the universe itself is 13.5 billion years old. Our home planet is a third the age of our bloody universe, meaning earth is in fact a very old planet when you look at the facts.
There is also the fact that, due to the way heavier elements are made by stars, it's really the *newer* planets that have a larger variety of elements (especially the heavier ones).
@@randlebrowne2048 Exactly. Think how many elements that were present towards the surface of the planet that have sunk into the molten rock beneath the crust. The younger a planet is, the more elements that can be found within the solid crust.
For the algorithm
i enjoyed both stories and narration
the moral of the stories? don't underestimate humanity
My grandfather didn't learn to drive until he was 25, yet he saw men walk on the moon.
Where do I go to write one of these?
The first story. When the Tau first met The Imperium of Man and thought they could would have no problem absorbing them into their own empire. Warhammer 40k ftw. If only 40k humans were like the humans in the 2nd story.
Humans do have a strange skill at reverse engineering technologies. Then learning new ways of using them.
The galaxy made an enemy of the wrong race, HUMANITY FIRST!
Humanity solutions are simple just add more guns and shields
lmao, wtf? Typical, hold my beer moment.
#1, fecked around and found out, on a Galactic scale
poor xenos, they forgot, tha WE WILL WEAPONIZE ANYTHING!! and use it against them
a population of 100 billion has an economy too small to field more than a ship or two? so are ships just stupidly expensive to build and maintain in this setting, or ?
Nah probably underestimated human industry. We are crafty bastards when it comes to building things
well, all kinds of ships are stupid expensive irl. Can't imagine what would cost to fleet a battlegroup of ftl warships... Even now, every tank requires several trucks to supply everything it and the crew needs. and the trucks have needs to, and it grows exponentially.
Also it depends o reliability. If you made your stuff a bit more reliable, you get huge reduction of maintenece. whick lowers upkeep a lot. which may affect how many ships humanity can have in storege and serviced. It ma not have aligned to alien standarts at all
I'm loving this pro-human propaganda.
Story 1; Only I get to mess with my brothers.
Story 2; You say I can't do it? You say I'm second rate? Hold my beer boy.
Yeah well our Interstellar Club is going to have Blackjack and Hookers.
Turned their space ship into a gun, i think i know which country the captain of that ship is from . xD
Wait how much would an order of 8 or 9 magnitude be of 100 billion?
In the first story, I am left wondering why the humans were attacking. I listened twice, to see if there were some clue left, but not obvious. Didn't find one. Just humans coming from all over and attacking every time they found someone.
In regards to the 2nd story. Humans are very adaptable apes. They should never have shown us the diagrams and engines.
Hah!
"This tech is cool... turn it into a gun 😊"
I am just here since I can't determine this is a computer voice. Thinking no
Our techs low? Build ftl gun
2nd Story Is Carma lol
lol