The End Of 7 String Guitars? - Harley Benton Amarok
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
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The fact you continue to review/advertise/endorse guitars and gear which are surely in direct competition with the company bearing your name really just displays your love of the industry and artform
Thanks dude, I like to see the industry as a group of brothers/sisters… Yes we all have something to sell, but that definitely doesn’t mean we can’t love and appreciate each other’s products - I don’t like it when people who own companies turn their back on the products that inspired them over the years that lead to them becoming a success.
@@RobChappers Tell that to KDH, Bob Crap in his pants. It is really out of this world that you and your "followers" harrassed that guy, totally out of line. By that situation and loads of other non "genuine" guitar/amp/pedal/cable/brand/whatever, you made yourself a non-genuine/non-real so-called guitar reviewer
@@johnnysguitarcorner5510 I am intrigued.
@@johnnysguitarcorner5510 Stop talking.
@@RobChappers Always a class act...Thank you for that!
Down-tuned baritones are awesome, have a huge place, and this sounds heavy, however, the clickbaity title misses the point of 7-string (& 8's) that in standard tunings handily reach a greater spread from higher registers clear to the lows in any playing position. "Economy of (hand) motion" is a benefit, not a drawback.
Anyhow, I enjoy your content as always, Congrats on 15yrs with UA-cam, Rob 👍
I can appreciate a good clickbait title, but hardly the end of 7's. 7's are cool in the fact that you can get that low A without sacrificing the high end. Admittedly playing a 6 bari is easier for people who are used to standard 6's, but my favorite part about a 7 is that when you're tuned down to A, you either have an E standard tuned 6 string with chord shapes (if you go Drop A) or a D standard tuned 6 if you drop it all a whole step. A 6 string tuned to A just sounds kinda yucky when you do your typical low fret barre chords. (edit: forgot to mention you can drop that E or D standard 6 to either drop D or drop C with much more ease than tuning a whole guitar.)
In short, baritone guitars are super cool, but they don't replace 7 strings. Different tools for different uses, even if the differences are fairly subtle. Baritone 6's are surprisingly rare compared to 7's too, so having an affordable neck-through with decent pickups for so damn cheap is always welcome. Never mind the fact that it looks like a Schecter/kiesel lovechild which makes it aesthetically appealing too. We need more beautiful bari 6's, let alone affordable ones. This guitar has me gassing hard for a bari 6 now.
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@@CM-eo1rp I apologize that two paragraphs was too long to read to the point you needed to comment on it. Not only did I waste your time with my two paragraphs, I wasted the time it took you to respond. I'm a horrible person.
7 strings won't die until people stop wanting to cover Slipknot and Korn songs lol
@@foxtrot889 The illiteracy is palpable isn't it.
@@Mephilis78 Slipknot barely use 7 strings….
I will never say goodbye to 7 strings! Detuning a 6 is fine, and I used to do it before I got 7s, but you sacrifice your higher end notes for soloing! I love 7 strings because I can still get that low end AND have screaming high solos. I missed that when I had my 6 string tuned down to B or A.
And you can't detune in the middle of a performance
@@notusedexer yeah you can with the droptune digitech wah pedal o.o
@@damienhelmold6978 I'll look into that. Thanks.
Can I just say, as a lover of the baritone goodness and of Dorje's music, hearing them combined is a DREAM come true. Centred and One just sounds sick in A!
Did we just watch some kind of weird Rebea-Baritone-Fetish-RolePlay thing tho?
Lol… just saw my gurn at 7:10 ha ha ha!! Thanks for watching guys :-)
I shed a tear when you played those Dorje riffs clean. One of my absolute favorite bands
At 7:00 , that tone touched my soul... It sounds so, idk, "sincere". Tone like that would enrapture me for hours and I would never be able to settle for anything south of it again... Nice vid
One day I'll purchase a 7-string. And a Baritone. And a 12-string. And all the guitars.
i bought all the guitars but i keep buying more
I bought all the guitars, so you'll have to buy them from me
Just wait till that addiction turns into master built custom shop versions of all the guitars.
Cool I don’t want any of these. I’ll leave them to you 😃
Those Bad Cat amps give me Satriani “Surfing with the Alien” vibe.
That is nice looking guitar. Great demonstration Rob!
Thanks Ash much appreciated :-)
@@RobChappers most welcome Rob!
How far they have come!
I bought a Harley Benton acoustic 10 years ago and threw it away six months later.
This guitar looks and sounds wonderful.
The first review on Thomann kind of brings you back down to earth a bit.
There is a lot of variability amongst Harley Benton guitars. Some are great, some are not. Have a Harley Benton TE-30 as my daily beater guitar and love it. But i also returned two of their Rickenbacker clones and one of their Strat copies in the past because they sucked.
🧔 wow, another great guitar. Rob Chapman you did it again, lovely. The pickups complement the guitar well and give great tones in each position. You are an amazing guitarists. Keep up the awesome work you do . Stay safe. 🌻
🤟🏼Brilliant professional & top man 🤟🏼
Rob I always admire your candid thoughts and integrity- not to mention that I have always admired your playing abilities. Thanks for a great review and this guitar is definitely something I want to check out!
That playing with the fuzz(?) pedal was truly one of the best things I’ve heard in a while. Fair play - epic stuff Chappers 🤘🏻
This is a gorgeous piece of master craftmanship. Gorgeous
The green finish is absolutely stunning
I love Chappers gear reviews and I love the shred!
Thanks so much Dustin :-)
I almost shat myself when I heard Catalyst. I was just feeling nostalgic for some classic Dorje. Great video!
Totally agree. Baritone guitars are long overdue. I see a bright future for them.
I have a black one on order and am looking forward to it.
Gear reviews are good for you. Helps build strong bones.
Absolutely baffled at the specs on some of these HB guitars. Totally awesome though that a teenager/kid can start out with a modest budget and get something killer as either their first proper guitar, or a little upgrade. Kudos for sharing the competition!
i have it for like half of year and i love this guitar
Great review.. I have a lefty HB Amarok Baritone and one of your Ghost Fret Pro's. Couldn't live without either and draw many parallels between them for aesthetics.
The brass pick makes genius sense!
I've been to the Bad Cat center when I went to buy a modeler from John. Super cool guy, and hooked me up with a free shirt. Really should get an amp from them one day especially since they're only 20 min away from me.
I just learned how to play pinch harmonics after watching one of your videos rob. Your skill swept over to me 😂
The 7 String Guitar is quite a useful instrument & Russia has 7 String Acoustic Guitars you'll love
I don't own any of the HB guitars. I have bought several of the HB basses though. The quality is quite good all across the price lines. I most recently bought one of the Marquess basses and it's really well made and plays/sounds great. Maybe not replace my USA Fenders of Spector but definitely gigable and a lot of fun with folks trying to figure out what (brand) it is then watching them gape when they learn.
So it is no surprise at all to see so many of their guitars being widely praised by lots of varied reviewers.
I own a headless harley benton and its the ligit the worst guitar ive ever owned it is so shit
Great review! Sounds purrty for all my grrrowly needs
holy crap, just over $500 shipped to the states for a neckthrough guitar with emgs. that doesnt suck AT all. i wonder if they make something 30"....
That is one cool ass guitar. The EMG sounds are top drawer. In one of my guitars - a Chapman ML1 - is the Het set - and like any great instrument I can’t stop playing cos the combo of woods used - Mahogany, Maple and ebony - and the pups just add up to one awesome sonic experience and isn’t that the essence of what any musician is after? Cheers for the always excellent content. 🤘
More Dorje Rob. Please. Absolutely love it.
I have the same guitar but the 7 string. Bought it in the first run. It was my first 7string and it is an awesome guitar! Took a while to get used to the active pickups but I think they sound ok enough to keep. I can't recommend this guitar enough.
Is it true the HB guitars with EMGs have 500k pots and not 25k?
It’s not far off a bass! Lovely sound. Always stayed away from Harley Benton but that sounds and looks great!
excellent video thanks
Just bought my first bari; it's also my first *new* guitar.
Eastwood baritone mando at the price point they gave was ...
compelling enough for me to bite
cannot wait for it to come
if it's possible for the neighbors to despise my habits more than they do now, we're gonna find out soon enough
Those Bad Cat amps rock 🙌🙌
This is one of the best-looking guitars available.
Damn,. Harley Benton killing it!
On their website, they state a scale length of 648mm or 25.5", where did you get 27" from? If in fact they are 27", this would make me much happier to pull a trigger on one of these.
Fair play the HB's are great for the dollar 🤘🏼😈🤘🏼
5:47 - If all the birds in the sky came to land
At your feet one by one they would rest
Wings folded like owl
Centered and one
Centered and one
Oh centered and one
Oh centered and one
Oh Blood and stone
It looks beautiful, but sounds too dark for my preference. The price is amazing though!
A little weird to see Rob hawking a competing, mass produced guitar brand without the Captain.
I demonstrate all kinds of brands for all sorts of companies, I enjoy it - I love the variety of playing different kinds of instruments, it really teaches me a lot. Thanks for watching :-)
The bridge is listed as a "WSC HPS-6 Custom hardtail bridge" but it looks bang on like an actual Hipshot with the shape of the outline, the contouring, U-shaped saddles and matte (powder coated) finish. Did their design patent run out?
I love the sound of a baritone! I still regret not buying one on my last trip to Andertons.
Green guitar check EMGs check Hardtail check comfortably under $1000 check yeah this guitar does it for me and you’re playing was awesome thanks Chappers
If i was to put a ceramic anywhere it would be the neck because the neck pickup is the most bassy and deep sounding and ceramic pickups normally chime they are quite bright and glassy at times. So in the neck it can sound better than a alnico unless you like the deeper sound.
I picked up a cheap Douglas 27.5 baritone 7 and it's easily my go-to.
If you're seriously into downtuning beyond drop C, you need the extra scale.
Very cool sounding guitar. I like it.
That Bad Cat...so good!!
Screw you extended range will never die....lol that last sentence I wrote was my inner metal head karen.
still dont understand why it's the end of 7 string guitars
The frick? That actually throws down the gauntlet for so many brands... including Chapman...
I wondered that but maybe Chapman guitars built it or designed it for them?
I actually bought one a few days before this video went up and it arrives soon and after seeing this I am no longer apprehensive about the purchase. Hope mine is up to snuff. Good content as always Rob and keep up the good work. Cheers!
My question, what type of drivers are in that 2x12?
It is relaxing to listen to.
It’s actually a one by 12, it has a custom Celestian made for Bad Cat
I have that guitar and it's pretty nice, although I had to rewire it once it arrived (like it was a mess in the back)
The pickups are so nice clean/light drive in the middle position with some delay. Plus I haven't tuned it in about a week and it's rock solid.
Dang that neck pickup is phat chunkin
That is a nice guitar well done Harley Benton
Yep..sure looks a lot like my ML1 baritone
Sounds good
God... using 13-62s must be absolute murder on your fingers, but that tone is so unreal...
I have always been impressed with Harley Benton. I thought, "Wow... Another cheap guitar brand." Then I bought one that was missing all the electronics, nut, and tuners. The fretwork, the tight neck joint, and the finish quality really astounded me.
I own the standard scale version.
Harley Benton guitars are VERY GOOD
And on that note, I just got my first 7-string.
That looks familiar 😉 Same one I bought recently to complete my 'set'. It's a pretty damn decent guitar considering the price. Better still if you can nab a good b-stock one 😁
I do enjoy a good b-stock hunt (don't say that too quickly).
Cool profile pic dude!
I can only read the title of this video to the tune of 'Goodbye 70s' by Yaz(oo).🤗
I am probably not alone.😋
Cannot be unintentional lol.
Rob what happened with the MLB1-DH?? i can't found it in the store (TwT)
What about those of us that tune up our 7 strings 😅 low B and E to e tuned up a whole step. 5 extra high notes!
I’d recommend trying a hybrid string gauge and an altered tuning on a baritone guitar! Like 10 - 52 in drop B
@@RobChappers I have not tried this! But I shall give it a go as soon as I can. Sounds interesting
Loving the Dorje riffs ♥
Can you do a video if you played music how you wanted with no repercussions based on the standard of western music? For example playing cents out of tune vs keys, or weird effects that sound objectively "bad" but in the right context can be musical to the right ears. Similar to a sonic version of an abstract painting.
02:50 Mick from TPS would said: "Well Dan I think, this nut looks like its need some loveeee."
What about the ghost fret pro, will there be more of them in production? Could you please do a review of the Harley Benton ex84 modern.
I literally just bought a Strandberg 7 string. Never not going to buy them either. 7's and 8's for full tonal tonal please and thank you.
I do love HB guitars, I have two.
I've now watched the entire video. Please, explain the clickbait thumbnail and title! :)
Is it because the HB baritone was sooo good, that you don't need 7 strings,
or is it because you simply don't get that they're two entire different things?
A Baritone can never replace a 7-string for the ones that actually need the 7 strings... Plus, the clickbait is unreal
No, not my sound. I really prefer the traditionell Les Paul and Telecaster sound or Opeth's PRS sound. But this machine looks nice.
Oooor, you know... 7-string BT! :D
I've got the HB Baritone SB7 Progressive, and while I was not a fan of the original rail pickups, a cheap upgrade turned it into an absolute BEAST!!
I have one and it can handle F tuning with ease. DArrdario bass VI strings and a 15 at the top, turns it in to a monster. Rail pickups are good for me cause i use a synth also. Rail has a smoother respons. Tuned to F in M3
I'd love to know which factories made which Harley Bentons. I'd put money on some 'famous' brand name supplier factories being responsible for some of their models, the quality is that good... The Harley's I've had from Vietnam have been particularly well made.
Until recently I couldn't see past the Chapman baritones, but other companies are catching on. The Squier Tele baritone looks awesome.
Chapman’s baritones are some of the best in the game for sure. Affordability and versatility are huge factors in that for me at least.
Feel like a lot of baritones have such specific visual designs and don’t allow for much freedom in customisation compared to the wider range of standard scale guitars.
But yeah, love my Chapman bari. Rocking that thing in Drop F#/E with a BKP Jug bridge and for an “affordable” guitar it sounds absolutely ridiculous.
7 String guitars give me crossed eyes. I do play low tune but I just tune a 6 string fix bridge down to where I want and then I do the lead parts with another 6 string FR that I keep in standard tuning.
judging the location of the pickup switch, it comes with 3 rolls of green tape too... why did they put it THERE, for crying out loud? :P
Despite the clickbaity title, I think that baritones and 7 strings are just two different things and one doesn't cancel out the other.
Wish I could have a jam with you as I've been experimenting with fat strings on my 4 string bass tuned to drop A. The end of 5 string bass's ?
Set of 8’s for a 27”. Amazing looking guitar for the money.
Damn. I could tell it felt good.
I dont think it can replace a 7 string guitar. A 7 stringed guitar ia more versatile between standard and downtuning at the sametime.
I have now sold all my 7 strings and bought a few baritones. Seven strings are amazing, but its almost like a different instrument from a 6 string guitar. I found when I would switch back and forth between my 6 and 7 strings my technique would suffer greatly, the string spacing/neck width/ having a extra sting to mute were all things that I would eventually get used to, but then soon as I would pick a les paul back up and want to play in standard tuning my technique was a mess. However now I can just switch back and forth between standard 6 strings and baritones with zero impact on my technique or sound.
@@lancestewart6907 it is really better if you have specific tools for a specific task/purpose, but if we wanna get both worlds we choose an all in one tool. If you have a problem with muting the strings then disable it or remove it.. For the neck width, there are 5 year old kids that can play a 2 inched nut full sized classical guitar way better than me so its just an effort really. If you have a prpblem going back to the 6 strings, just dont go back :P , For me the real problem are the 9 stringed guitars.
I picked up a baritone and a Bass-VI and between these two and my other guitars and basses I realized I don't need a 7-string. :-)
I love 24 fret necks.
At 6:04 - epically meaty riff
I want them to make an Explorer shape version. Literally the same specs. Everything the same. Only change the body shape. If they made an Explorer version, I would buy it immediately.
Look up at their EX 84 line it's not exactly the same specs but they are great
That is not a baritone. It also does not have a Hipshot-style tailpiece.
I'm gonna keep my 7 string, gives more range than a baritone and more ease of play than an 8
I got rid of all my 7's and picked up 2 baritones. I loved the 7's but I found when switching back and forth between 6 and 7 strings guitars my technique would be a mess. When switching back and forth between a 24.75in Les paul and my 27in Esp BB600 all my technique stays intact.
@@lancestewart6907 Both my 6 and 7 have flat necks, so they feel similar to me. Same scale length too. To each their own.
@@harlstrum833 I have a few 7 string acoustics and they are super fun. Apparently most dreadnought acoustics are 26"+ scale length already; I think my AEL207E is a full 27".
It's fairly epic at campfires, no lie. GROWWWWWWWL I don't play it all the time but when I do play it it's hard to put down, true story.
Oh yes... 'Catalyst' and 'Centred and One' in drop-A.... Just Yes
Great video man! I won't be looking into Harley Benton baritones since my ML-3 Bea Baritone in Paleblood with a BKP Silo and a SD Lil 59 in it is doing the job perfectly.
Also Rob... You haven't played Dorje riffs in videos in a good while, and all of a sudden you're throwing All, Flower of Life and Centred & One at us... Don't tell me you've been rehearsing them for something, don't give me hope! 🤣
Great playing as always mate, can't wait to see you next week!
I want to get one but I think they are ugly and the Chapman Ml1 looks so much nicer to me, I love that abyss colour! Not that I can afford or really need either. Nice to hear someone playing those Hot Cats, I have a clone of the original Hot Cat and love the thing and really would like to try the new ones but I have barely heard anyone play them.
Comparing 7s to Baritones is a little strange. One can never be the substitute for the other. Just because Rob cant handle the 7 or 8 strings doesnt mean you can replace them with just a 6 string baritone