I LITERALLY heard this in a store today, thought about how after years I trained myself to hear this “right”… and thought about you and your videos. Crazy to come home and see this posted.
Brilliant - perfect sense. Page is still out in terms of where a metronome would have the '1' but the phrase is certainly structured the way you've explained it. Yep, brilliant teaching!
Yeah Mike! you are an inspiration. thank you for all the comfort and inclusivity youve provided. in sincere gratitude. forever grateful for the tab book stuff too. eternally grateful for you.
I found out something else amazing about this part of the song. I always felt like the first hit was off a little bit. I read or heard an interview with Jimmy Page, who revealed that that first hit on the guitar is not one strum, but actually five! 5 strums. Quickly strummed in the space of one. To fit those five quick strums in he hits the one a little bit early. Listen to it especially the first one, you can hear the guitar come in just a little bit before the bass and drums. I always thought they were just a little bit off here. But this explains it. I've practiced it and it works.
I'm the same way when I was just a guitarist I didnt think too much about it but since im a drummer too I find myself counting beats more, and even going back to my original songs and having to change a few things to get em more in sync.
Thanks you. This is right, and I had it wrong. After seeing your explanation, I put the Led Zeppelin track in ProTools and found the grid, and it works just as you show it here. I had to vary the tempo from about 91 bpm to 99 bpm to make it fit correctly, but once they speed up and the solo section starts, it's pretty consistent. Thank you!
That part is indeed weird, even to just listen to and vibe, you'd expect guitars and drums to be perfectly in synch with each other and aligned to your own sense of rhythm, but somehow you end up banging your head earlier or later than that.
This is great! Gotta say Stairway is one of my favourite songs by Led Zeppelin. I think I counted it right along with you but I'll see how I do playing along with it too.
All you have to do is make sure the guitarist is strumming the 12-string between the 'duh-duh-duh's in the right rhythm, thus: Drums (which to my ears, starts on the 'and' of one): (and) duh-duh-duh; duh-duh-duh; duh-duh duh, duh duh; crash; (12s guitar strum) jing j-jing-j-jing, jing j-jing j-jing JING duh duh-duh etc.. The last Jing before the second duh-duh-duh is important! 🙂
I saw your earlier video, and yes, my band had all their own opinions, but the drummer (Thanks Jim C), who was just a Bohnam nut, said the same thing you said... where it starts on the 1 beat.
You just wanted to play and show off your double-neck lol! Hey, I'm not hating on it. You even trolled us with Stairway. You're badass as always Mike!🤣🤟😝🤟❤️🎸
i was just listening to this in the car the other day trying to figure out exactly what was going on.... I didnt know how to explain to my girlfriend why I kept playing the same part over and over again haha
i have no idea why guitar players say it's 1-2-3.. it's 1-2-3-4.. listen to the older version..the new re-master hides that -extra- guitar track...but it's NOT 1-2-3..it's 1-2-3-4!!!
I LITERALLY heard this in a store today, thought about how after years I trained myself to hear this “right”… and thought about you and your videos. Crazy to come home and see this posted.
Wow, been playing this for ages completely wrong! Great to learn something new.
Wow, adding that drum groove completely changes the vibe. It almost feels like a "Bends"-era Radiohead song or something.
yes, kinda blackstar
Brilliant - perfect sense. Page is still out in terms of where a metronome would have the '1' but the phrase is certainly structured the way you've explained it. Yep, brilliant teaching!
Yeah Mike! you are an inspiration. thank you for all the comfort and inclusivity youve provided. in sincere gratitude. forever grateful for the tab book stuff too. eternally grateful for you.
Some measures and meters are hard to decipher. This is *definitely* a prime example.
I found out something else amazing about this part of the song. I always felt like the first hit was off a little bit. I read or heard an interview with Jimmy Page, who revealed that that first hit on the guitar is not one strum, but actually five! 5 strums. Quickly strummed in the space of one. To fit those five quick strums in he hits the one a little bit early. Listen to it especially the first one, you can hear the guitar come in just a little bit before the bass and drums. I always thought they were just a little bit off here. But this explains it. I've practiced it and it works.
You playing that beat along with it makes that part sound like a song from the college rock 90s, that was wild.
I'm the same way when I was just a guitarist I didnt think too much about it but since im a drummer too I find myself counting beats more, and even going back to my original songs and having to change a few things to get em more in sync.
Thanks you. This is right, and I had it wrong. After seeing your explanation, I put the Led Zeppelin track in ProTools and found the grid, and it works just as you show it here. I had to vary the tempo from about 91 bpm to 99 bpm to make it fit correctly, but once they speed up and the solo section starts, it's pretty consistent. Thank you!
Thank you so much, Mike !
That part thew me out the first time I heard the song. That is a good explanation.
Excellent as usual Mike!!!
That part is indeed weird, even to just listen to and vibe, you'd expect guitars and drums to be perfectly in synch with each other and aligned to your own sense of rhythm, but somehow you end up banging your head earlier or later than that.
The song is now the "free to play along with" demo on Songterr.
This is great! Gotta say Stairway is one of my favourite songs by Led Zeppelin. I think I counted it right along with you but I'll see how I do playing along with it too.
Yeah the timing of this section messed me up when I first learned Stairway. Great job!
love you mike
Damn, snagging those sus4 chords on the snare drum off beats made it sound so much like a Rush song to me.😊
All you have to do is make sure the guitarist is strumming the 12-string between the 'duh-duh-duh's in the right rhythm, thus: Drums (which to my ears, starts on the 'and' of one): (and) duh-duh-duh; duh-duh-duh; duh-duh duh, duh duh; crash; (12s guitar strum) jing j-jing-j-jing, jing j-jing j-jing JING duh duh-duh etc.. The last Jing before the second duh-duh-duh is important! 🙂
I saw your earlier video, and yes, my band had all their own opinions, but the drummer (Thanks Jim C), who was just a Bohnam nut, said the same thing you said... where it starts on the 1 beat.
AMEN 🙏
You just wanted to play and show off your double-neck lol! Hey, I'm not hating on it. You even trolled us with Stairway. You're badass as always Mike!🤣🤟😝🤟❤️🎸
This was AMAZING, thank you so much!
awesome video man, quality stuff!!
Mike when will you do jem jr vs regular jem?
oh god oh god oh god. i've been trying to work this effn thing out for years
I would like tho hear this looping back to the coda
Crazy. I’ve always heard it on the downbeat of one never as a pickup into one
Drummer and guitarist all in one? You've got this Zeppelin thing covered!
Nice
What drum kit is that? looks and sounds killer.
I never had that problem.
i was just listening to this in the car the other day trying to figure out exactly what was going on.... I didnt know how to explain to my girlfriend why I kept playing the same part over and over again haha
Sounds like Rush doing a LZ cover.
Great video, I just wish you would have played your solution more than just once. I know, just use the rewind...
No stairway, denied
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Bonzo!
Cobra Kai music tutorial soon ?
i have no idea why guitar players say it's 1-2-3.. it's 1-2-3-4.. listen to the older version..the new re-master hides that -extra- guitar track...but it's NOT 1-2-3..it's 1-2-3-4!!!
John Bonham timing.
Zeppelin week continues
As the saying goes, everything is in 4/4 if you stop counting like a nerd