Glad I’m not the only one who went back to 2x10. The chainline and stretched out rear derailleur on 1x always drove me crazy. I prefer 2x xtr/xo mix for marathon racing and all day rides.
I like my double with 36/22t chainrings. On the road I never switch to smaller chainring, and on offroad I never switch to bigger. It's damn perfect setup.
For me too, the best setup is 2 X 10, I don't change it for anything, I never go back to 1 X 11 again. The 2 X 10 covers both flats and roads as well as mountains.
@@deusexaethera yep…range, chainline, terrain, etc was an afterthought. They were so focused on making a single chainring work that they whiffed on the rest of the system. The 1x11 (32x42) low gear is proof. And 32x10 is spun out on open sections especially marathon races.
nicely done video - I don't think most people can appreciate the time it takes to get these shots! I was going to do this myself until you started machining custom spacers and screws!
I don't normally like these sorts of videos when the UA-cam creator doesn't verbalize what he or she is doing. But this video is the exception and is very good indeed!
I've gone back to my 2 x 9 system from a 1 x 11 system because of cross chaining and fewer gears. My chain started creaking on the largest cog...thought it to be dirty...only to realize that it creaked because it is cross chaining...putting strain on its individual rivets. Though its only 9 speed..11-34 with a 38-24 front...my drive train is more stress free than my 1x 11-46 set-up.
I like how you show the tools before each step thank you very much for great instruction. Almost robotic with the graphic way you display each component. Very cool
nice and concise vid. did the swap on 2x10 2014 stumpjumper, pf30 crank. no need for home made washers and bolts for the chainring, bought fm alixpres for less than $10. used sram nx derailleur/shifter, gx chain and no-name chainring and cassette. total $200, most went to sram components. so far works great.
You should take derailleur slx and shifter - xt, as xt shifter has double down feature, while slx doesn't have. Maybe you will just change shifter in future
Great video, but don't forget than the chain has two sides, one with letters and other without letters. The side with letters must be side out. Sunrise save the life... it's no necessary to change free hub system to micro-spline. :)
Year 2000: upgrade to more gears, it's just better. Year 2020: upgrade to less gears, it's just better. Year 2040: just give us your money and walk, walking is better.
@@radiocontrolled9181 I see you’ve wandered through a bunch of comments leaving your 2 cents. In response to your statement here, no, you don’t really have 21 gears with a 3x7 etc. On paper you might think you have 3x7 = 21 gears, but in reality, much less. Consider that: "twisting" the chain. For example the front big gear and the rear big gear affects the yield of your pedaling and also the life of the chain, so you won't do it too often, I know you get that grinding sound on your Tourney, I know it. 😉 And some of the combinations front-back are so close that they are practically redundant you end up having like 8 or 9 actual speeds.
@@mattjns My drivetrain is very smooth because I keep it clean, lubed and well adjusted. It works perfectly and is quite silent too. Yep, it's not 21 gears true. But I can safely tell you that I use 16 of them regularly with no grinding or issues. The cross chaining issue exists for the 3x and moreso for the 1x. There was a time when this cross chaining subject was very popular and very much discussed and debated. But abracadabra! once the marketing gurus came out with the 1x 'invention' ..... Puff!! It vanished and they no longer mentioned it. Why? Hehhe not because it vanished but because it''s not in their interest now to speak about it anymore 😉 But it's still there and in some cases even more pronounced than with 3x drivetrains.
@@radiocontrolled9181 Good to hear! Well I guess that’s you opinion I’m happy for you to have it. I recently swapped over to a 1x11 on my mtb. I had a 3x7 that I ran on the middle ring 95% of the time anyway. The no frills / quick shifting on trails on a 1x is no joke. And I’m curious why a lot of people think chainline angle is extremely exaggerated on a 1x ? I mean, yeah, maybe a little. My mtb is literally upside down next to me in my living room (my wife’s away, I’m not stupid 😉) I had my old 7x cassette in my hand holding it up to the 11x just prior …….and I mean, the largest sprocket is almost in the same spot. Maybe the 11 is like 5mm closer to the spokes? Tops? Anyway, works for me. I also love the clean look of a tidier bar setup and no front derailleur. That’s just me. 👍🏼
Great video recension Paul, many thanks.. I am new in your great Canal. I have learning too much.. I are one older bike mechanic that to beginning from disc brakes, I stopped fitting bicycles. Practically 10 years later, I would like to assemble the new frame and fork set myself. Your videos have given me a lot of confidence. However, the part where you mount the chain, I saw that you shortened it without having measured the length. Basically the front chain was on the new 30-tooth sprocket. At the back it was on the 11-tooth sprocket. The most absurd thing for me was that on the pantograph of the rear derailleur (Shimano XT part), there is no longer the pantograph adjustment screw, and in addition you only put it under tension with your hands, pulling it a bit and putting it under tension. At one time I remember, you used to pull it with pliers to put it under absolute tension. Greetings from Switzerland. Goodbye (*_*)
Not my business, but it's better to have xt shifter with slx rear derailleur, not opposite. Xt shifter have multiple click to up and down, and slx doesn't, and it's very comfortable. Xt shifter + slx rd work as good as xt + xt. Slx shifter + xt rd work as slx + slx.
I've done the same conversion. But Just recently I went back to 2 in the front and ten in the back. In my opinion it keeps the chain more symmetrical or straight when you can switch between the gears. I find that one in the front and more in the back keeps the chain at more of an angle. I just have a better feel when you can keep the chain straight by switching from small to big and vice versa. In my view one in the front is just fad and you can never beat the " old school". But each to their own.
I agree with you, the small gear in front with the big gears in the back 1,2,3,4 and the bigger one in the front with the smaller in the back 5,6,7,8, i believe its make the chaine less tension that way.
Of course! I never swallowed the media marketing bullshit lies that going from 20 gears (2x10) to 12 (1x12) is an 'upgrade'. Vice versa it would make much sense of course , , , , but most people are fed lies and they swallow them like a fish swallows its bait. I will stick to my trusty old school 3x7 which shifts super smooth with a cheap Tourney derailleur. Just converted the rear wheel from Freewheel to Cassette coz I kept bending/breaking the rear axle.
@@radiocontrolled9181you are swallowing "media marketing bs" right now, you just arent smart enough to notice. A 2x10 has less than 15 unique usable gears. You are falling for smoke and mirrors like every other educational mishap in our society.
You use a tork wrench on the bolts for the chainring but not on the crank arm and no grease on the pedals thread. That's a little weird. But i like how you made your own bolts.
The main advantage of this drive is - you don't have to think about the gear ahead. Imagine you have 2 gear levers in your car. You simply shift with one lever. You will have a clear head for other things ... It's a great idea :)
1x drivetrain gives too much stress & strain on your RD. It wouldn't be a problem if you have money to spare. Mine is 2x10 and my bike is almost 5 years old but my RD still performs as it was new.
yeah you nailed it exactly, big semis travel ocean to ocean through deserts mountains blizzards and all they like taking little bit of extra weight and maintenance cost, just for fuel economy on such diverse roads. If you are like a pro biker and have a trailer full of bikes each special for its occasion and are driven everywhere by car then sure go for 1 by If you have a bike and like to ride it bit of everywhere then gear shifter is your friend.
I dont think you need the chainguide for that narrow-wide chainring plus the tension from the clutch. Just my opinion I run the same chainring and never had a chaindrop
Im not a big fan of 1x drive mainly because it gives me less possible gears to choose from and the chain is a lot thinner but you do what you do shifting the front while cruising through the trail does seem a bit of a hassle
nooo, why did you put red threadlocker onto the chainring bolts 😩 it's super hard to take off and you'll probably need to heat the bolts to loosen them... use blue threadlocker in the future
Watching this made me realize how badly I wish there was a media platform that allowed for the talking through of what is happening rather than just having to look at pictures and figure it out. Oh wait, thats what UA-cam is.
PERFECT! O.L.D OF MY BIKE IS 135mm, do you recommend in this configuration the same as you did in this UP grade?, and I can't find this cassette, I find the MZ901 THE MZ903, CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING? GRATITUDE
Ive always had a front derailleur and now im 1x11 and its terrible. I do a new chain every 400 miles and the gears are never right, im just messing with the bloody thing all the time.
Call me crazy, but for a budget upgrade, I like prev gen SLX 11sp + new SLX derailleur and Deore m5100 cassette: the range is the same, parts are cheaper, and the Deore 11-51 cassette is lighter than the Sunrace CS-MZ800. You have one less cog in the middle but to be honest, I've ridden the SRAM SX Eagle and this SLX/Deore mix and I don't really miss the extra cog and the shifting is even better than SRAM SX Eagle.
Main question that a guy would have: How do you fit 12 sprockets in the same space where 6 or 7 used to be without spreading the chain-stays or making the chain way thinner? This video is of little benefit to anyone if there's no talking or explaining how others with different bicycles can do the same thing.
Cassette Chains and Chainring are narrowed down with less space between them so they fit and all 6 7 8 speed have more space between each gear and Chainring and thicker Chains tht how they do it
@@7MPhonemicEnglish I literally just fit a new 11 cassette this arvo to my mtb. It’s in my lounge upside down as we speak! 😂 (the wife’s interstate, I’m not stupid 😏 ) The larger the cassette, the narrower the spacing between sprockets. You also need to buy the corresponding chain. Ie: an 11sp chain for an 11sp cassette. As the cassette gets larger the chains get thinner to fit the narrowed sprocket spacing. 👍🏼👍🏼
compliments. Nice video. I have a question for you ... I have a Specialized 2X10 and I would like to turn it into a 1X11. Can the largest sprocket set be mounted on any MTB or not? Thank you!!!
a Shimano is now mounted on the MTB but I would like to replace it with a 1 X 11 also from another brand as long as it is of quality and not too expensive. my question is it possible to change or not due to some obstacle to the frame or wheels?
vorrei chiederti un consiglio. ho una trek marlin 7 2 gener.,con i componenti originali come: Mozzo posteriore Formula DC-22, lega, 6 bulloni, ruota libera Shimano 8/9/10, 135x5mm QR; Bloccaggio posteriore QR 152x5mm;Comando Shimano Deore M4100, 10 velocità ; Deragliatore posteriore Shimano Deore M5120, gabbia lunga ;Guarnitura FSA Alpha Drive, corona in acciaio 28T, linea catena 55mm, lunghezza 175mm ; Movimento centrale FSA, 73mm, cartuccia filettata, perno 122,5mm ; Cassetta Shimano Deore M4100, 11-46, 10 velocità. Vorrei fare un UPGRADE montando una cassetta a 12V e sostituire il movimento centrale da perno quadro a BB. Sono un amatore e non un professionista e prima di acquistare vorrei un tuo consiglio se è possibile e cosa dovrei acquistare. GRAZIE
I'have 26 inches with 7 speed freewheel in back with 3 speed crankset I want to convert 3 speed crankset into 1speed crank set how much teeth crankset i should buy Is crankset with 42 teeth suitable or not Because i mostly ride on plane roads
LOL shortening you chain like that is the recipe for ripping rear derailleur off or bad shift quality. You need to RTFM 😉 If you a on a limited budget you should have considered choosing the SLX rear derailleur and the XT shifter as you’d get better functionality at the cost of a bit of extra weight. I fully understand that the choice of rear derailleur and shifter you made looks better.
A láncot rosszúl raktad fel írással kifelé kell felszerelni a könnyebb váltás miatt(nem poénból vannak a szemek úgy meg munkálva) a szerelési útmutató is azt mutatja!!!!!😉
Nice video. Can you confirm your chain line after conversion ? Also your chainring seems to work very well with the shimano chain 12 speed 7100 HG+. Can you share the model number of your chainring? Thanks.
@@PaulXchannel Hey Paul. Let us know what model of the 32T Deckas blue chainring you mount. Seems to be working flawlessly with your HG+ chain. Thanks.
It works, but by cheaping out like this you lose the benefits of Shimano cassette's superior shift quality and the 510 percent gear range achievable with the micro spline is not achievable with this. Plus you'll probably see accelerated chain/cassette wear as Shimano 12 speed has reduced cassette spacing to others, hence the narrower chain to other manufacturers 12 speed groups.
so its the .68 ratio of a 3x you get using the 51/32, single drive interesting. The ground covered will be 5ft per crank revolution or 30" per half stroke, one step length of a normal stride while walking left or right foot. Only problem with climbing like that is torso lean angle. Imagine a frame that tilts with the terrain but you remain vertical at all times.. Can't have the ultimate all in one and some people have longer/shorter climbing steps. Curious.
im sorry if this question is stupid but i couldnt clearly see it. at the moment im riding with 2x10 but i want to do the same thing like you. some people told me that i need another hub that 12x cassette fits on the rear how can i check this without removing my actual cassette?
@@PaulXchannel mine is a slx hub but I don't know how old it is because I bought the bike on ebay last year All I know that the bike ist from 2014 or something like that
I wonder if it's working well Sunrace cassette with Shimano derailleur and shifters. I have a hardtail mtb wich i want to upgrade the drivetrain 8x3 to 9/10x3 and i don't know wich component i can use ...Sunrace cassette for Shimano Deore XT back derailleur.
You talk about advertising but act this naïvely falling for the oldest trick in the book. With a 2x10 there are less than 15 unique usable gears. Yet you are blinded by useless gears, congrats.
Tja, hättest du gewartet, hättest du dir die deore 12fach holen können. Hab ich bei meinem Steppenwolf gemacht : Ritzel sunrace ( wie du), Kette Kmc, Kurbel Truvativ stylo, Schaltwerk Deore, Schalthebel Deore. Kosten :185 €.
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Glad I’m not the only one who went back to 2x10. The chainline and stretched out rear derailleur on 1x always drove me crazy. I prefer 2x xtr/xo mix for marathon racing and all day rides.
That's also the reason always makes me confused to shift in 1x, while using both higher & the lower sprocket seen so much stressed in 1x
I like my double with 36/22t chainrings. On the road I never switch to smaller chainring, and on offroad I never switch to bigger. It's damn perfect setup.
For me too, the best setup is 2 X 10, I don't change it for anything, I never go back to 1 X 11 again. The 2 X 10 covers both flats and roads as well as mountains.
1x12 will go down in history as a mistake.
@@deusexaethera yep…range, chainline, terrain, etc was an afterthought. They were so focused on making a single chainring work that they whiffed on the rest of the system. The 1x11 (32x42) low gear is proof. And 32x10 is spun out on open sections especially marathon races.
nicely done video - I don't think most people can appreciate the time it takes to get these shots! I was going to do this myself until you started machining custom spacers and screws!
Thanks for watching
Well it's an upgrade
Do more research on what parts you need and you wont have todo all that extra stuff
@@PaulXchannelзачем эта котлета огромная на заднем колесе?
Мир дибилов
I don't normally like these sorts of videos when the UA-cam creator doesn't verbalize what he or she is doing.
But this video is the exception and is very good indeed!
I've gone back to my 2 x 9 system from a 1 x 11 system because of cross chaining and fewer gears. My chain started creaking on the largest cog...thought it to be dirty...only to realize that it creaked because it is cross chaining...putting strain on its individual rivets. Though its only 9 speed..11-34 with a 38-24 front...my drive train is more stress free than my 1x 11-46 set-up.
Maybe you should have only done 1 x 9
@@ulysseskruger I agree as it shortens chain life .
This is explained well with both sides of the topic by "sickbiker" Danny who is a pro rider from Poland . He prefers 2x or 3x setups .
Limiting the available gears and crosschaining ,is not an upgrade. It is ,by all means, a downgrade.
@@ΣΤΑΥΡΟΣΓΚΕΡΛΕΣFrom 20 shifts downgrade to 12.
I like how you show the tools before each step thank you very much for great instruction. Almost robotic with the graphic way you display each component. Very cool
Thanks for watching
I like he doesnt talk and the music really tied the room togather
nice and concise vid. did the swap on 2x10 2014 stumpjumper, pf30 crank. no need for home made washers and bolts for the chainring, bought fm alixpres for less than $10. used sram nx derailleur/shifter, gx chain and no-name chainring and cassette. total $200, most went to sram components. so far works great.
You should take derailleur slx and shifter - xt, as xt shifter has double down feature, while slx doesn't have.
Maybe you will just change shifter in future
Great video, but don't forget than the chain has two sides, one with letters and other without letters. The side with letters must be side out. Sunrise save the life... it's no necessary to change free hub system to micro-spline. :)
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Year 2000: upgrade to more gears, it's just better.
Year 2020: upgrade to less gears, it's just better.
Year 2040: just give us your money and walk, walking is better.
Only marketing bullshitters can convince the gullible that 11 or 12 gears is better than 20 gears (2x10) or 21 (3x7) . . . . smh
@@radiocontrolled9181 or... 2x7 vs 1x12 :)
@@radiocontrolled9181 I see you’ve wandered through a bunch of comments leaving your 2 cents.
In response to your statement here, no, you don’t really have 21 gears with a 3x7 etc.
On paper you might think you have 3x7 = 21 gears, but in reality, much less.
Consider that:
"twisting" the chain. For example the front big gear and the rear big gear affects the yield of your pedaling and also the life of the chain, so you won't do it too often, I know you get that grinding sound on your Tourney, I know it. 😉
And some of the combinations front-back are so close that they are practically redundant
you end up having like 8 or 9 actual speeds.
@@mattjns My drivetrain is very smooth because I keep it clean, lubed and well adjusted. It works perfectly and is quite silent too. Yep, it's not 21 gears true. But I can safely tell you that I use 16 of them regularly with no grinding or issues. The cross chaining issue exists for the 3x and moreso for the 1x. There was a time when this cross chaining subject was very popular and very much discussed and debated. But abracadabra! once the marketing gurus came out with the 1x 'invention' ..... Puff!! It vanished and they no longer mentioned it. Why? Hehhe not because it vanished but because it''s not in their interest now to speak about it anymore 😉 But it's still there and in some cases even more pronounced than with 3x drivetrains.
@@radiocontrolled9181 Good to hear! Well I guess that’s you opinion I’m happy for you to have it.
I recently swapped over to a 1x11 on my mtb.
I had a 3x7 that I ran on the middle ring 95% of the time anyway.
The no frills / quick shifting on trails on a 1x is no joke.
And I’m curious why a lot of people think chainline angle is extremely exaggerated on a 1x ?
I mean, yeah, maybe a little. My mtb is literally upside down next to
me in my living room (my wife’s away, I’m not stupid 😉) I had my old 7x cassette in my hand holding it up to the 11x just prior …….and I mean, the largest sprocket is almost in the same spot. Maybe the 11 is like 5mm closer to the spokes? Tops?
Anyway, works for me. I also love the clean look of a tidier bar setup and no front derailleur. That’s just me. 👍🏼
I love this video. Direct & no unnecessary bullsht..sorry for the word man. This is so satisfying
Thanks for watching
i never thought that reducing the available gears and twisting the chain so badly is an upgrade.
Hahhahhaa ... don't worry man. It means you have a brain and you're using it :-)
Less parts likely to break, less maintenance, cleaner bike, lighter weight.
@@phantomnuke996 less maintenance? How? You are going to clean one chainring instead of 2? Lighter weight by how much? 200g?
@@phantomnuke996 Well my friend who has 12 speed always change the sprocket and chain every 3 months
@@radiocontrolled9181using it badly yeah, congrats you guys are at the bottom of the bell curve
The only benefit is weight, i did exactly the same change on mine one year ago, and sometimes i miss mi slx/xt 2x10, so simple and so perfect.
Great video recension Paul, many thanks.. I am new in your great Canal.
I have learning too much.. I are one older bike mechanic that to beginning from disc brakes, I stopped fitting bicycles. Practically 10 years later, I would like to assemble the new frame and fork set myself. Your videos have given me a lot of confidence. However, the part where you mount the chain, I saw that you shortened it without having measured the length. Basically the front chain was on the new 30-tooth sprocket. At the back it was on the 11-tooth sprocket. The most absurd thing for me was that on the pantograph of the rear derailleur (Shimano XT part), there is no longer the pantograph adjustment screw, and in addition you only put it under tension with your hands, pulling it a bit and putting it under tension. At one time I remember, you used to pull it with pliers to put it under absolute tension. Greetings from Switzerland. Goodbye (*_*)
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the best explaining regarding the conversion from 2x10 to 1x12 on the whole youtube including the tools you need and all :D
I just went back to 2x10 from 32 11-42 1x10. 32-22 front 11-36 rear. The equivalent of a 52t 1x low gear with nice tight ratios.
Smart people invented shifting gears many years ago not without a reason.
Glad you agree.
@@tihs87smarter people realized that cross chained gears and duplicate gears mean a 2x10 has less than 15 usable gears
This is one of the best videos ever seen so far.
Paul X I Love the video, 1x12 is the future of MTB, a question for you. There’s is a reason to put the spacer before the cassette?
Not my business, but it's better to have xt shifter with slx rear derailleur, not opposite. Xt shifter have multiple click to up and down, and slx doesn't, and it's very comfortable.
Xt shifter + slx rd work as good as xt + xt.
Slx shifter + xt rd work as slx + slx.
+1
Everyone notices the same thing. Slx has softer feel. For multiple shifts it's better to go with sram for really multiple
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I've done the same conversion. But Just recently I went back to 2 in the front and ten in the back. In my opinion it keeps the chain more symmetrical or straight when you can switch between the gears. I find that one in the front and more in the back keeps the chain at more of an angle. I just have a better feel when you can keep the chain straight by switching from small to big and vice versa. In my view one in the front is just fad and you can never beat the " old school". But each to their own.
I agree with you, the small gear in front with the big gears in the back 1,2,3,4 and the bigger one in the front with the smaller in the back 5,6,7,8, i believe its make the chaine less tension that way.
Me too. Now I have the range of a 52 tooth cassette with much tighter ratios. Like it better and not noticing slight weight increase at all.
Of course! I never swallowed the media marketing bullshit lies that going from 20 gears (2x10) to 12 (1x12) is an 'upgrade'. Vice versa it would make much sense of course , , , , but most people are fed lies and they swallow them like a fish swallows its bait. I will stick to my trusty old school 3x7 which shifts super smooth with a cheap Tourney derailleur. Just converted the rear wheel from Freewheel to Cassette coz I kept bending/breaking the rear axle.
@@radiocontrolled9181you are swallowing "media marketing bs" right now, you just arent smart enough to notice. A 2x10 has less than 15 unique usable gears. You are falling for smoke and mirrors like every other educational mishap in our society.
You do NOT need a chain guard as the rear derailleur has a clutch.
That's some serious POV 😳 Excellent I must say
Yea i went 1x11 and tbh its driving me fkn nuts now going back to 2x10 lol.👍
You use a tork wrench on the bolts for the chainring but not on the crank arm and no grease on the pedals thread. That's a little weird.
But i like how you made your own bolts.
Painting over the threads was super weird
The washers should be 8 mm??
Is it possible to upgrade 1x12 to 2x12 crankset?
My 2.4 monster Gravel Bike 30t x 11x36t is more than enough. Great montage! 👍🙂
Great video! I'm about to change from 2x10 to 1x10. Greetings from Peru! 🇵🇪🚴🏻♂️
I'm amazed nobody's asked the obvious question; Now that you've converted your bike was it worth it? And what are the pros and cons of 1x12 vs 2x10?
The main advantage of this drive is - you don't have to think about the gear ahead.
Imagine you have 2 gear levers in your car.
You simply shift with one lever.
You will have a clear head for other things ... It's a great idea :)
1x drivetrain gives too much stress & strain on your RD. It wouldn't be a problem if you have money to spare. Mine is 2x10 and my bike is almost 5 years old but my RD still performs as it was new.
@@PaulXchannel you don’t need to imagine it, big semis in the US are with 18 speeds/gears tranny, 3 leveler.
yeah you nailed it exactly, big semis travel ocean to ocean through deserts mountains blizzards and all
they like taking little bit of extra weight and maintenance cost, just for fuel economy on such diverse roads.
If you are like a pro biker and have a trailer full of bikes each special for its occasion and are driven everywhere by car then sure go for 1 by
If you have a bike and like to ride it bit of everywhere then gear shifter is your friend.
Totally the best make-over video
OMG your MTB bike very cool man.i like it bruh 🙂
I dont think you need the chainguide for that narrow-wide chainring plus the tension from the clutch. Just my opinion I run the same chainring and never had a chaindrop
just for safety
No needed. I confirm.
The only thing missing is rear wheel hub specs. AFAIK you can’t simply go from 10 speed HG hub to 12 speed without mods?
Im not a big fan of 1x drive mainly because it gives me less possible gears to choose from and the chain is a lot thinner but you do what you do shifting the front while cruising through the trail does seem a bit of a hassle
nooo, why did you put red threadlocker onto the chainring bolts 😩 it's super hard to take off and you'll probably need to heat the bolts to loosen them... use blue threadlocker in the future
hi, what paint did you use to paint the cranks? Thank you!
Why did you need to buy new pedals? Older ones are served in about 25 minutes. And there will be no backlash
I dont think he needed that 1x12 as a whole.
That backlash is reason enough to throw some money at your 'hobby'
satisfying to watch...great video...keep it up👍
Watching this made me realize how badly I wish there was a media platform that allowed for the talking through of what is happening rather than just having to look at pictures and figure it out. Oh wait, thats what UA-cam is.
you can try the radio
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O.L.D OF MY BIKE IS 135mm, do you recommend in this configuration the same as you did in this UP grade?, and I can't find this cassette, I find the MZ901 THE MZ903, CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING? GRATITUDE
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So professional. 🙌🙌
Ive always had a front derailleur and now im 1x11 and its terrible. I do a new chain every 400 miles and the gears are never right, im just messing with the bloody thing all the time.
I have Shinano XT 770 mega 9 components to cover me for the future .
why SLX shifter/XT rear mech? seems like you'd get better bang for buck doing xt shifter/slx derailieur
Call me crazy, but for a budget upgrade, I like prev gen SLX 11sp + new SLX derailleur and Deore m5100 cassette: the range is the same, parts are cheaper, and the Deore 11-51 cassette is lighter than the Sunrace CS-MZ800. You have one less cog in the middle but to be honest, I've ridden the SRAM SX Eagle and this SLX/Deore mix and I don't really miss the extra cog and the shifting is even better than SRAM SX Eagle.
Ok
@@PaulXchannel cool 🙃
Moving from XTR 2 by 10 to Eagle GX 1 by 12 was a mistake for me.
oh really? im just thinking to move from 2x10 xtr to 1x11 sram nx😅
Great video great instruction smooth process. Thank you
Hi mate, would you mind letting me know what cassette youve used? What model? Is it sunrace?
it's in the video
Do you have back pedal issue on the largest cog?
Why this video is so satisfying 🤩
Main question that a guy would have: How do you fit 12 sprockets in the same space where 6 or 7 used to be without spreading the chain-stays or making the chain way thinner? This video is of little benefit to anyone if there's no talking or explaining how others with different bicycles can do the same thing.
From 10 to 12 with this set.
There is nothing to add.
Cassette Chains and Chainring are narrowed down with less space between them so they fit and all 6 7 8 speed have more space between each gear and Chainring and thicker Chains tht how they do it
If you’re beginning with a question like that then I’d suggest watching a video on how to install said drivetrain is not for you.
@@mattjns says the guy who doesn't know the answer.
@@7MPhonemicEnglish I literally just fit a new 11 cassette this arvo to my mtb. It’s in my lounge upside down as we speak! 😂 (the wife’s interstate, I’m not stupid 😏 )
The larger the cassette, the narrower the spacing between sprockets. You also need to buy the corresponding chain. Ie: an 11sp chain for an 11sp cassette. As the cassette gets larger the chains get thinner to fit the narrowed sprocket spacing. 👍🏼👍🏼
Just came out amazing but I'm wondering how much is this upgrade. Not including labor of course just parts.
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6:30 Nit pick: Might have been a good idea to mask off the threads before painting ?
A minimum of paint penetrates the thread.
The color falls perpendicular to the thread.
i like what Paul X did...everytime....everytime dude
Hi. Very nice video. Could you please share a list with all items you used to modify the drivetrain? Thanks.
Thanks.
All is in video.
Wo sind die schwarze Handschuhe, die du dich am Anfang des Vedios angezogen hast?
compliments. Nice video. I have a question for you ... I have a Specialized 2X10 and I would like to turn it into a 1X11. Can the largest sprocket set be mounted on any MTB or not? Thank you!!!
Shimano or Sram ?
@@PaulXchannel Shimano
a Shimano is now mounted on the MTB but I would like to replace it with a 1 X 11 also from another brand as long as it is of quality and not too expensive. my question is it possible to change or not due to some obstacle to the frame or wheels?
vorrei chiederti un consiglio.
ho una trek marlin 7 2 gener.,con i componenti originali come: Mozzo posteriore Formula DC-22, lega, 6 bulloni, ruota libera Shimano 8/9/10, 135x5mm QR; Bloccaggio posteriore QR 152x5mm;Comando Shimano Deore M4100, 10 velocità ; Deragliatore posteriore Shimano Deore M5120, gabbia lunga ;Guarnitura FSA Alpha Drive, corona in acciaio 28T, linea catena 55mm, lunghezza 175mm ; Movimento centrale FSA, 73mm, cartuccia filettata, perno 122,5mm ; Cassetta Shimano Deore M4100, 11-46, 10 velocità.
Vorrei fare un UPGRADE montando una cassetta a 12V e sostituire il movimento centrale da perno quadro a BB.
Sono un amatore e non un professionista e prima di acquistare vorrei un tuo consiglio se è possibile e cosa dovrei acquistare.
GRAZIE
Hello , Is Shimano for 2x12s FC610 chainring, compatible with 1x12 cranks , BCD 96mm M7000. I need that info . IT look same.
With the chain guard does it make any noticeable noise . I know it's a necessity
What kind of setup are you running for this gopro, I want to do the same thing
I'have 26 inches with 7 speed freewheel in back with 3 speed crankset
I want to convert 3 speed crankset into 1speed crank set how much teeth crankset i should buy
Is crankset with 42 teeth suitable or not
Because i mostly ride on plane roads
LOL shortening you chain like that is the recipe for ripping rear derailleur off or bad shift quality. You need to RTFM 😉
If you a on a limited budget you should have considered choosing the SLX rear derailleur and the XT shifter as you’d get better functionality at the cost of a bit of extra weight. I fully understand that the choice of rear derailleur and shifter you made looks better.
why do you see 2x to 1x as an upgrade 2x or 1x is a preference
Better parts = upgrade
Hi sir, sorry for askin.. whats is ur previous 2x10 cassette biggest tooth?
Tell me, on the old transmission (slx) how many teeth are there on the big cassette star?
A láncot rosszúl raktad fel írással kifelé kell felszerelni a könnyebb váltás miatt(nem poénból vannak a szemek úgy meg munkálva) a szerelési útmutató is azt mutatja!!!!!😉
Could I use this set up on my boardman comp 650b hardtail? I do alot of long distances riding along the canal ect and a few hills
Specialised 8 by 3 can I also c convert to 10 by 3
3×13 speed gear settings is possible yes or not । please try
Nice video. Can you confirm your chain line after conversion ? Also your chainring seems to work very well with the shimano chain 12 speed 7100 HG+. Can you share the model number of your chainring?
Thanks.
Thanks.
96bcd m8000
Doesnt look like a M8000 crank...
chainring only
@@PaulXchannel Hey Paul. Let us know what model of the 32T Deckas blue chainring you mount. Seems to be working flawlessly with your HG+ chain. Thanks.
@@brunovillaret8053 96bcd 32t
( DCW-43)
I want to upgrade my 2×9 SRAM to 1×12 is that possible?
Should I use on fat bikes also?
Hello bhaiya kitna gear hai
You didn't grease the lockring
Is it an Upgrade?! Why?
Because the parts are better now
Hey, you have the standard freewheel right? You didnt have to switch it for the Micro Spline freehub?
Yes.
Standard freewheel.
@@PaulXchannel Nice, one less thing to worry about when i get to converting. Great video by the way, will be returning to it when i start the project!
@@primozsmigovc1935 Thanks
It works, but by cheaping out like this you lose the benefits of Shimano cassette's superior shift quality and the 510 percent gear range achievable with the micro spline is not achievable with this. Plus you'll probably see accelerated chain/cassette wear as Shimano 12 speed has reduced cassette spacing to others, hence the narrower chain to other manufacturers 12 speed groups.
@@brygry In the end i decided on the 1x10 10-45 cassette option. Was just a cheaper alternative without the downsides of cross manufacturing.
Would you sponsor a gear cycle or cycle gear set
so its the .68 ratio of a 3x you get using the 51/32, single drive interesting. The ground covered will be 5ft per
crank revolution or 30" per half stroke, one step length of a normal stride while walking left or right foot. Only
problem with climbing like that is torso lean angle. Imagine a frame that tilts with the terrain but you remain
vertical at all times.. Can't have the ultimate all in one and some people have longer/shorter climbing steps. Curious.
im sorry if this question is stupid but i couldnt clearly see it.
at the moment im riding with 2x10 but i want to do the same thing like you.
some people told me that i need another hub that 12x cassette fits on the rear
how can i check this without removing my actual cassette?
The video shows an old Shimano hub.
The Sunrace cassette will fit.
@@PaulXchannel mine is a slx hub but I don't know how old it is because I bought the bike on ebay last year
All I know that the bike ist from 2014 or something like that
will fit
@@PaulXchannel i just googled the model of my hub. unfortunately i can only run x9 or lower
this "little" upgrade is gonna be expensive
It's possible to upgrade 3 x 7 to 1 x 10 or 12
I wonder if it's working well Sunrace cassette with Shimano derailleur and shifters. I have a hardtail mtb wich i want to upgrade the drivetrain 8x3 to 9/10x3 and i don't know wich component i can use ...Sunrace cassette for Shimano Deore XT back derailleur.
works very well
@@PaulXchannel ok, thank you very much for the tip.
What about sram cassette with shimano/sram chain, and shimano derailleur and shifter?
Can u put that collection links on description please ?
Porque no ases una con 3 velocidades delanteras y 12 traseras
the break system was not affected in any way ?
J'ai eu question si on est en 10 vitesse en mono comment on met en 12 vitesse ? Je veut dire il y a besoin de changer beaucoup de chose ?
Perfect made video-guide. Thanks man.
Hi, my mtb bike is 24 rim, Does it fit Shimano 10-51 casette my bike?
nice. How’s the 1x12 compared to the 2x10 on climbs? I have the same 2x10 and thinking about switching to 1x12.
Good
Berapa kos? How much?
Before 20 gears, after 12 gears. It's really upgrade? Or advertising?
You talk about advertising but act this naïvely falling for the oldest trick in the book. With a 2x10 there are less than 15 unique usable gears. Yet you are blinded by useless gears, congrats.
What about 10x3 sram groupset
Please tell me 3x9 is faster or 2x9 is faster?
Very nice video and very nice work . Only one question why you put washers with 8mm width between chainring and the crank ?
Thanks.
Centering against 12 wheels.
Since when did any maker fit a 2x10 with a through axel as original equipment? And you use a torque wrench for fixing the new cassette.
I have a ten year old Saracen Kili flyer with 2x10 and through axles front and back sorry for thread hijack lol
Why not change the freehand body to a microspline?
Because this way it works well.
It's a cheap - fast - easy change of drive.
Heyy broo u can use the chain link UNLOCKING tool Also as LINK LOCKING tool
No
Tja, hättest du gewartet, hättest du dir die deore 12fach holen können. Hab ich bei meinem Steppenwolf gemacht : Ritzel sunrace ( wie du), Kette Kmc, Kurbel Truvativ stylo, Schaltwerk Deore, Schalthebel Deore. Kosten :185 €.