Toyota USA Screwing Over Toyota Japan - Critical 2024 4Runner
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Where do we start? Corporate Shill channels on UA-cam hyped up Toyotas latest round of engine destructing poor quality build round of new trucks the Tundra, Tacoma and Sequoia not to mention the Land Cruiser and GX550 to name a few and will take no responsibility for being Corporate Shills that tricked so many into purchasing sub par vehicles with huge price increases. Now we are at the point that there are very FEW 2024 5TH GEN 4Runners to purchase new. We talk about all this in this video. Woke Toyota USA would rather invest in a DEI Race Program and being woke over adhering to the principals and values that made Toyota Japan Great, Toyota USA and overall Toyota Truck branding is irreparably damaged in North America by having the wrong people run the ship.
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Just picked up my brand new 2024 4Runner TRD ORP in Solar Octane-I absolutely love it picked it up. It had 2 miles on it from the dealership.
same brother, but in white w/ kdss and MTM. never going back to another vehicle if i can help it, will be given to my kids when im old and grey.
Your debt is super-super awesome
We bought 23 in August last year and it had just 1 mile on it. We are so fond of it. I just hope nothing happens like an accident to where need another vehicle as won’t get turbo or hybrid crap. We are 68 and have always bought new vehicles. We still have 89 Chev 1500 4WD we bought new 35 years ago last month. We bought a used vehicle once in 80’s and it was a Dodge pu and won’t make that mistake again on either part. New vehicles today aren’t worth buying. If we need to replace a 3rd vehicle we have will we have to go to a Nissan PU to get a real engine that’s not the crap Toyota is now building. EPA is to blame we know!!! These people that believe the hybrids and turbos and worse yet an EV are not at all in touch with reality. The environment is not going to be saved from this. What about the financial aspect of these new vehicles. The hybrid replacement battery should be priced before buying the vehicle of any make. *** Just remembered responding to a video and didn’t mean to go off on that person at all. Sometimes I just get on a tangent and forget what I’m doing!!! Ha!
Picked up a 2024 4Runner Limited 3R AWD three weeks ago. Fluid Filmed the frame. Hope to have it a long time.
So glad I bought my 2023 Lunar Rock 4runner ORP back in September. I knew the 2025 was gonna be a bust. I love this Truck. Gonna keep it forever.
Sounds like our Lunar Rock 2022 ORP 👍 great truck indeed Best ODTRP
Thanks for ur passion and the truth!!
Exactly the reason why we bought and waiting to pick up our 2024 4Runner in a month. Thank you for speaking the truth!!
Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
I share your perspective on the big UA-cam channels like TFL…for example that David guy from “Automotive Press” always touting himself as a “former Toyota engineer”…and how he still “has contacts at Toyota, and the Tahara plant” blah blah blah…So viewers thought “wow we’re gonna get great inside info from this guy!” But as far back as 2020 he would come on and say “oh this is the last year of the 5th GEN 4Runner”. So viewers rushed out and bought it the 2020 4Runner thinking it would be the final year! Then in 2021 he again was like “oh this is the final year of the 5th GEN 4Runner for sure”…then he said the same in 2022 and 2023! So a bunch of his viewers trusted him…rushed out for no reason…and then missed out on post-2020 features such as trail cams, heated steering wheel, LED Headlights, Blindspot monitoring…when we could’ve waited for 2024 …the true final year! To get the final of the best…with every possible feature offered. Thanks for nothing David.
All those corporate channel guys…blabbing just for views. Just selling, or selling out.
Keep on keeping it real Terry 👊🏻
Hello King great to hear from you sir. You are right about David, he used the new Tundra to build his channel and every problem he pushed let me tell you why videos. Having worked at GM I always knew he was full of shit with his baseball cap and off color shoes. You are correct, people trusted him like TFL as well thank you for your encouragement and support, your friends at ODTRP .
I recently bought a 2019 Tundra SR5 premium Crew Max 5.7L with 42k miles. Paid $35K cash. Driving it til the wheels fall off.
That could be one million miles
That is the one to have. It will far out last the junk they make now.
@MarkTurner-vs7uc very True
Thankfully I managed to get a 2021 SR5 Premium with 60000 miles. Plan on keeping it until it drops or I drop.
Absolutely 👍
@@OnDownTheRoadProductions Thanks for your videos. Knowledge is power.
I assume this is happening because profits are not as good as in the past. The Japanese corporate will step in eventually to save the company.
@@jeffreyfurtado3681 the situation is dire, and people need to be held accountable
Toyota USA suck. Proof is the new Sequoia.
Thanks for your honesty and info! It's too bad Toyota has gone done the drain. This last 4 Runner will be the best forever. Too bad they can't keep it up!
I bought a 23 trd orp in lunar rock because back then, the rumor was the 24 would go to the v4 turbo. I couldn't be happier with the purchase. I'm keeping this thing for good, God willing.
Reserved a TRD Pro in Terra built on 5/29, estimated to arrive 8/1. Must have gotten one of the last ones made! I’ve owned multiple Tacomas and currently have a 2020 sport but have always wanted a 4Runner. Grabbing one before they are gone.
I also like "Untamed Motors" he's a straight shooter.
We do as well, they are great
We have a 2024 4Runner trd off-road premium coming
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@@OnDownTheRoadProductions Just picked up a new 24 4Runner ORP a little while ago.
I’m just gonna throw this out there…. I picked up a new trd pro, that someone must have reserved, then let go. No extra charges, and had it delivered from across the state to me. I had a pro on reserve that might be a ship right now, but I kept checking for deals like this. They were out there weekly, but this was the one that worked for me. Got it two months early, then sold my ORP for a decent price. Win-win. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Great moves indeed 👍😎🤩
Ugh, I want to get one so bad but the current interest rates make the payments too high!
Work with your local credit unions they are competitive also Toyota may have aggressive financing potentially. Still get one before they are gone, and then refinance when Biden is gone
Picked up my CPO Lunar ORP in January…..best move I ever made. Love it!
2019 4Runner TRD OR Premium 90k miles no issues
Just put a deposit on a 2024 trd pro 4runner. I don't trust the new stuff anymore with is sad
Congratulations 🎉🎊 on a wise financial decision and purchase. Best Jordon ODTRP
I own a Gen3 Tundra hence why I invested a 24’ 4Runner. I plan to retire in 4-5 years and spent the money now for the 4Runner, it will be garage kept on a battery tender, oil catch can installed, project upgrades will take place (tires, etc) until I retire. Great video, on point with the phonies at TFL.
Yup I got my 24 Trd off road love it sad way car company go cheep
I have a TRD pro 4Runner coming in a few weeks. Underground color. Deposit is in and my name is on it. Looking forward to it as I couldn’t find one at MSRP until now.
We offer up Fox Toyota in Michigan for MSRP or less
We bought a 2023 4R TRD PRO a year ago in anticipation of the end of an era. We got magnetic gray metallic which isn’t available in 2024.
You were 100% right. All the shills are still lying and the sheep are drinking the koolaid. TRD Jon wouldn’t even do a video on the Tundra recall. He can’t even drive a standard 😂
And all the people who say Toyota has been doing turbos for decades. In diesels! They tried gas turbos in the late 80s and they were a flop.
I appreciate you from day one, and your endorsement of this video, and your participation on this platform from day one is nothing but stellar, spot on, grounded, and on target. Much Respect, Terry
Here in Honolulu they are discounting 4Runners $4,000+
Unreal wonder what shipping from Hawaii is, 4000 dollars?
Untamed Motors tells us straight too.
Yes as far as we can ascertain that’s why I endorsed. UA-cam is flooded with arrogant entitled fake experts
2016 SR5 premium, 45k miles, no issues whatsoever.
Right on 👍
I bought my TRD new in '19, has been flawless, just turned 30K miles. It replaced a GM product that was a total tow truck riding pre-madonna since day one. Anything I buy from Toyota, the first digit of the vin must start with a "J".
GX460 Off-Road channel is also really good 👍
They are the ones who did the torture testing line
Trd jon did not have a engine failure 😂😂😂 he was literally driving it in today's video
Thank you for that.Light on dash is not engine failure.😊
We got a 2014 trail edition. Same drive train now w a few more bells and whistles that you don't really need. Keep old school! Thanks for the honesty, so very little left in this politically correct world of bs.
One of the biggest regrets I have was selling my 2022 4Runner TRD OR-P in Lunar Rock. I now have a 2023 Tacoma TRD Off Road access cab long bed. V6 naturally aspirated. I didn’t want the turbo four-cylinder first model year and wanted the longevity and reliability of the 3rd GEN Tacoma.
I’m trying my best to get the funds to procure 24 4Runner TRD OR-P.
Edit to fix typo
Got tired of all my 2022 Ford Maverick hybrid recalls/TSB's.
Luckily, found out about the 2024 4Runner and purchased one Memorial Day weekend.
Ordered the Performance Air Intake today from BAM.
Thanks for keeping it real.
We appreciate this more than you know, my comments have now been copied all over to “there is nothing better than an informed customer” and “we are on your side” often by the same fake expert shill channels and they know who they are. No one mentions or helps this channel out ever. I appreciate you!
Got my 2024 4runner 👍
Congratulations 🎉🎈🍾 on a wise purchase
I agree with you sr you have the. Eggs 🥚 to seid the real truth very happy for you sr God bless 🙌
By the grace of God, I was able to get a Lime Rush TRD Off-Road (no premium!!) last year. It has the perfect amount of tech and buttons. I did some "light" modifications with a winch and LED bar. Just used the winch for the first time and it worked awesome! No regrets on the gas mileage or anything else, this truck does exactly what I needed it to. Just hoping it will last more than 10 years (my old 2006 Saturn VUE lasted 12 haha). Thank you for your videos!!
Very nice!
Lol it’s wild how much FOMO UA-camrs are creating on the 5th gen runners.
We know and understand and said our part, often replicated and lifted
Well said. From what I see I'm more likely not buy another Toyota.
Not a new Toyota truck no
Does anyone know the total percentage failure rate of these engines? Is there hard data on this? The reason I ask is, I see all these critical reviews of the engine, yet my son, who works at Alabama's largest Toyota dealer, is not seeing these issues in his shop. I'm not saying that these engines are good, I'm just wondering what the hard data states.
All of them for the Tundra and GX550
Last month i put a deposit on a 24 4runner trd pro. Got a call last week from dealer and they said they secured one for me. Should be here in 2 weeks!
Totally awesome 👏 😎 Congratulations on a wise purchase decision
buy a older truck , a basic sr5 does the same as a capstone does
hi Jerry thanks for the truth brother and I will say a prayer for your health
💯👍 Great info!!! Thanks! 🙏
ps 2x 😎
Agree with you. Toyota North America is not functioning like it's parent company. Look at how Toyota of Asia and Australia are still making good quality. We will see if Japan drops the hammer on North America. Side note Toyota of N.A. needs to fire Sheldon Brown, chief engineer.
Absolutely kick Sheldon Brown out @Toyota
Cut by 25 to 35k? Nah man that’s preposterous! Maybe for HD trucks but not half tons and midsized.
10-15k on those
Biggest problem as any car salesman will tell you is the insane complexity of modern vehicle electronics. This is why insurance costs are sky rocketing actually. When instead of trying to create wireless systems while working with Apple and Google instead the ICE 21st Century has tried to post up straight on against Tesla and been absolutely *ANNIHILATED.* Tesla remains the only honest vehicle manufacturer out there at the moment because the depreciation is *REAL.* Since Tesla still remains the only pure play BEV to in fact support their product ... and is expanding that support that the extant Industry still can barely fathom...serious buyers of what still is nothing more than 4 wheels and a steering are looking at Tesla. In the alternative another approach is to buy a hydrogen powered fuel cell vehicle because the safety considerations involved with such a vehicle are substantial indeed as many people have been killed already from trying to operate fuel cell forklift systems etc. although I think that system is far better now. There is a lot on the pure play BEV side that is far better now but the fact remains I agree certain people from pure play ICE are in fact literally going backwards with anything and everything...which in the case of Toyota is a great way to ruin a great thing. Meanwhile oil prices go through the roof again today so what the point of even having a vehicle anymore is is pretty hard to fathom at the moment. Most humans still simply walk to get where they need to go and why that's still not the best thing ever I have no idea.
Tesla has it's own bevy of manufacturing issues. My father-in-law was an engineer working on the conveyor systems at Tesla's Fremont factory. He was absolutly blown away with the amount of repairs that were beign done to cars in the shipping lots because of poor quality. Tesla's knee jerk reaction when issues are reported out in the field is to blame the customer. Since 2020 Teslas sales has dropped 8.5% year over year. This is mainly due to poor quality. With one writer stating "Tesla has bottlenecked and damaged its production capabilities and quality by keeping every aspect of manufacturing in-house-rather than partnering with third parties to help craft and manufacture components." Teslas are also not affordable, where is the $25k vehicle that Elon promissed? I can tell you, it was cancelled. One last note, what do car salesmen know regarding the "insane complexity of modern vehicle electronics"? They don't, they are salesman, not mechanics. I work on modern cars, the electronics are NOT insanely complex.
A few things, one is we have a chance this November to put Trump back and all this high oil price and inflation will change for the better. Two, this I know for example Powertrain within GM has a majority of the political power and they are not shutting down their ICE production lines. Three, car salesmen have nothing to do with vehicle design and engineering. Four, we renegotiated our 4Runner and now pay 124 dollars less each 6 months. Top Tip, tell your insurance company your vehicle is a pleasure vehicle to save money.
Hey no offence but wipe your lips when you speak, truly. Big fan of your work
I hate the click bait titles on Scott's channel. If he did not use those would watch more.
Agreed on that one, again though he is truthful in his assessments.
I have a 22 4runner 20k miles never on shop for recall or broken down at all so happy 😊
Right on
Any issue with rust around rear tailgate garnish or front hood scoop? Apparently an issue on you tube. Garnish rubs off paint.
No, and we have covered this with a separate video
They do have rust issues on the tailgate. Known and documented.
@DUNEATV ua-cam.com/video/fsZDv0O-NBk/v-deo.htmlsi=DpJKepLi2SFZaPdR
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The reasons you give for why it's happening is correct. All car review channels are constantly pushing tech crap, and there's more than half of us that don't want that stuff. It has raised the vehicle cost by 40% in the past years and usually breaks.
Agree, I am in that 50% that has no use for useless frills. When I turn on the ignition in my jeep wrangler...a message on the dash displays "Jeep," as if i did not already know this. It is a 2016 and there are still things that I have not used, since I do not need them . I notice how new basic 4X4 4runners are rare now, most are limited, premium and pro.
Always breaks. Technology is the stupidest thing that ever was.
Untamed Motors is also a great channel.
We understand that, filming in dealer parking lots, more sincere and knowledgeable than fan boys like TRD Jon
I have a 2016 T4R Trail. You guys think it would be wise to trade to 2024 TRD Offroad? My 2016 is $3000 to payoff, 85k mi., no mechanical/electrical/cosmetic issues, no Push Button Start, no BSM, etc.
If u owned since new I think I’d keep the 2016 since it’s almost paid off. I just got a 2023 ORP and it’s amazing so you really can’t go wrong with either decision, imo.
Sure if you can afford it.
I, too, have a 2016 4runner trail with kdss with about 54000km on her, and it has had zero problems. New doesn't always mean better. If you're happy with it and she still looks and performs well, then keep it. Mine is all decked out for overlandding and still is my daily driver, as for what my plans are for her. I'm still playing and having fun with her and have no desire to trade her in on anything. Good luck.
Keep it. I had a 2017 TRD off-road and I got a 21 TRD pro and I still regret trading up. Pay it off and drive it. My 21 has 98000 miles. My 17 had 76000 miles when I traded up for new one. Keep yours. Same truck. You can upgrade yours way cheaper than new one. Not worth it.
Keep it, save the $ for a year and buy a 24 4R when the new 4R fever gets high, 5th gen from non fans will be out in lots by Xmas
Agreed
2019 Limited 4 Runner 8,500 miles (solid truck), 2008 IS350 190k and counting (best car ever owned), 2016 Tacoma Off Road 94k and counting (solid truck). The new Toyota TNGA platform has not been going well for them. I'm keeping what I got.
I had opposite experince with 2008 IS350. Fun to drive for sure but it was burning oil excessively after 100K or so, had to add 2 quarts every 1,500 to 2000 miles. Dealer told me engine replacement is the only option. I didn't wanted to sell or trade it in knowing it can't be fixed. Thank god it got totaled last year. Purchased 23 Rav4 xse. My 07 Tacoma still runs great after 307K miles though.
“Nepotism Tommy” 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Love the lunar.
Thank you
10:10 Camry will be all Hybrid for the 2025 model year
They will have that version too, V6 version will still be around
Picked up my '24 4Runner Limited AWD 7 pass in April. Couldn't be happier my friend! Also have an '18 Tundra.
A lot of you guys have no idea what you're talking about. Honda and Toyota are AGAINST the push for EV's. They do not believe going full-EV by 2035 is even viable (which is what the mandates currently demand). They are being FORCED to go EV, and are require to do so incrementally by multiple governments. Ideally, Toyota and Honda would both be selling hybrids to go alongside their petrol-based vehicles.
Part of meeting the EV requirements of various jurisdictions is to increase the MPG's of their petrol vehicles. That tends to me smaller engines with turbos. Doing so also helps reduce the amount of EV's Toyota and Honda want to put out, which is a plus for them.
Toyota and Honda have been lobbying AGAINST EV mandates. These two manufacturers carved out their nice in the automotive market in two categories: Reliability AND affordability. And they dominate both those categories. A transition to EV shrinks their lead in those categories against other manufacturers like BMW, Mercedes, and American brands.
Again, you guys have no idea wtf you're talking about. You people should be criticizing the governments you live under, NOT Toyota ffs.
So you are not paying attention. Hondas and Toyotas always cost more due to quality and durability, you claim affordability. Small displacement turbos typically go bad, I don’t care who makes them. Can you say V35 and Tacoma 4cyl fast three times?! Thanks for your comments, people are fully aware that liberal left governments are screwing every over, which is why they count on ever throwing their votes away over only one issue Abortion. Sad but true.
@@OnDownTheRoadProductions Stopped reading at pick up truck 👍
Not even comparable as there are not accessible EV pick ups
LMAO!! , was really looking foward in buying a new land cruiser, but now with all the engine problems,it is a Big NO!,,coming from 2018 tacoma and my recent 3 year 2004 toyota sequoia,,bought at 294K has 311k now runs like a champ ,with basic maitinence,,only water pump timing belt on sequoia.
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Is that a pee cup or a beer? 🤔
Pee cup have a sip
@@OnDownTheRoadProductions 😋
Nonsense. We got over a dozen sitting in the lot here at my local dealer under MSRP. I love this guy how he claims like he's an expert on v8 over turbocharged v6. I'm sure he's much smarter than the toyota engineers. No youtubers knows the real issue here yet let alone a youtuber makes a video at the back of his 4runner with a beer next to him. Most people put it on blast after the fact. Well, that's easy...
there's nothing wrong with drinking a beer...calm down Karen
It was a Starbucks iced teas AND the Tundra disaster speaks to the Toyota engineers who should be held responsible. The real issue is lousy engineering, failed main bearing seals, and terrible design combined with terrible dealers and poor build quality. You make an awesome a hole.
Thank you! I actually do not drink and that was a venti green iced tea from Starbucks. We appreciate you ODTRP
@OnDownTheRoadProductions I rather be an a hole then misleading the public by making videos like yours. Collecting your data by reading and watching others' videos (which I am sure you do) on UA-cam doesn't make you an expert. Your statement of everything terrible on Toyota's design, dealership, and build quality makes you another hater with zero facts. I rest my case.
I'm still trying to figure out what a main bearing seal is. I know what a main seal is, and what a main bearing is, but I have never heard of a main bearing seal. If it's a main seal then it's not the end of the world, a seal can be replaced without having to tear down an engine. If it's a main bearing then that is a bigger issue. I will agree with other YTbers that state that you should not buy a first model year vehicle. I learned this in the 80's and made the mistake of buying a first model year Ford Coyote in 2011 (bearing failure at 120K mies). As a Quality Assurance Analyst and previous mechanic, I can tell you that the engineers will miss stuff that will only be found by the end user. You always hope that it's not a catastrophic failure, but honestly if it's going to happen then the first model year is the prime candidate. The wise decision is to wait a couple of years. I know that if you have what I call, car fever, it's a hard thing to do.