Metal Guitarist Tries Learning Jazz
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- After 15 years of playing breakdowns, I attempt to learn Jazz Guitar
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#Jazz #Metal #Guitar
*I miss breakdowns....*
You need to react to Paledusk. If you haven't heard of them they are Japanese core band and recently signed to Greyscale. I personally love to see their single 9Smiles or Palehorse but that's up to you.
Jazz chords give my Arthritis Arthritis. But they sound So Mellooo..ohhhshit!!.. Handcramp....
Nik Nocturnal if you want to learn how to improvise, then you could check out Lucas Brar on yt.
Try learn dangdut
Can you do a cover of one of the new Lorna Shore songs?
I came here for 7:01
Best riff ever!!1
0 3 5
play somebody,bro
Nik didnt study on Cherklee :(
Rudy pls bring back 035
"You have a whole language for this genre?"
I mean, metalheads do too. We're all djentlemen here, not savages.
Proggy djentlemen I do say.
LMAO
My thoughts exactly. Chug life! 🤘🏽
Djentlemen speak using binary
000111001110110101100
And ur here again lmao! Are u playing guitar by any chance?
man who learned the entirety of through the fire and the flames...
~what is a chord~
Tabs don't hurt your feelings like chords do
Nik Nocturnal ok yeah can’t argue, I’m still trying to repair my relationships with a few of em
@@JacksonSanders22 Best reply ever mate!
@@danielfuksa5465 hahaha thank you, I wish it applied to me
@@NikNocturnal facts
Hahaha I died at “HOW IS THIS BEGINNER JAZZ” 😂 I’d play jazz with you any day papi
Nice seeing the normal musicians of youtube meeting at a place of culture.
Now play me the PH Theme
You guys gotta make a youtube band already
Oh man... I'd be so ready for jazz core! Let's go!
😳
cccchhhopsss
Jazz Musicians: Nooo you can't just play Jazz without properly learning all the basics!
Nik: HAHAHA RANDOM CHORD GOES BLURP!
or chugawug
noooooo my extended chorderinos
Sounds like me lol
To be fair, a *lot* of the early jazz pioneers knew almost nothing about theory or the "proper" basics of playing their instrument. (And by early... I mean like the very, very beginning of the genre/respective subgenre.) Mostly because they just didn't have access to that kind of education.
Not to say that other people should willfully follow that route; because most of the worldwide known jazz guys *did* know that kind of stuff.
@@royalcat10 True for some but Jazzmen listened sooo much music that they internalized all the basics. Most of them quickly annalized song they loves and worked like hell to make some rules about what they discovered. They can play "random" note because they know all notes that fit in a scale and so what note can catch you at a moment you were expecting another. I am a metal Guy who study Jazz and jeez they are really some books of theory !
There are no mistakes in jazz only slight improvisations
wrong notes? u mean s p i c e . . .
Just play the wrong note again
*repetition legitimizes*
That is the moral of the video
@@The73rdSecret repetition legitimizes
That's why jazz is objectively trash
Jazz teacher: now add an f in the bass
Nik: bass?? I'm doing guitar!!!!
Slash Chords😂
Whats a bass
@@NikNocturnal please bro like my comment
Love from india🇮🇳
@@NikNocturnal thats a tough ome
@@NikNocturnal wait you were the bassist in cole Roland cover with Lauren babic🤮
Nik playing Metal: *Better than me*
Nik playing Jazz: *Still better than me*
:O
Try with Flamenco or Bossa Nova, trust me, it'll be ok 😎
I'd love to see that LMAO
@@adamweishaupt2007 Bossa Nova have some things in comum with Jazz, but is not a sub-genre of Jazz at all
Bossa Nova is NOT a sub-genre of Jazz
BOSSA NOVA PLEASE
Try corridos
I'll never get tired of metal musicians being intimidated by jazz's complexity and finesse, as well as jazz musicians being intimidated by metal's precision and virtuosity.
Wtf r u talking about m8
Check out John McLaughlin. I'm sure he is quite intimidated...
@@johnschmidt3575 Oh, ABSOLUTELY YES! John McLaughlin is QUITE an EXTRAORDINARY fusion guitarist -- and one of my favorites, too!
@@Kenneth_Mac_Pherson you miss the point. You really think a guy like that is intimidated by this guys chops? 😂😂
@@johnschmidt3575 No, I TOTALLY understand & 100% agree!
I feel like jazz is the one genre where lead is easier than playing chords
I feel that
That’s really not true 😅
oh boy wait until you hear about Charlie Parker..
Jazz improvisation is learning a bunch of shit until you just do it automatically by looking at chords and cadences, whilst trying to balance blind improvisation with trying to create a cohesive melody. Playing chords, though hard at first, becomes easy as you learn more chord shapes and are able to automatically play them when you see them, as well as decide the best voicing. I think playing lead is a great deal more challenging in jazz because you are always learning so much, whereas your ability to play chords well plateaus after you've learned enough.
@@matertua2272 yup, in terms of knowledge and improv (not comparing technique), any decent jazz solo which follows the changes is more challenging than the average metal solo
"Might as well be a bassist at this point."
As a fellow bassist... i wept and nodded in agreement.
"happy Davie504 noises"
But you have to improvise a bassline by looking at the chords unless if your playing some big band songs.
4:32 I FEEL THE PAIN!!!
Why?
Just Bite the pain👉😎👉
As a jazz musician I laughed my ass out nice vid man
#1 tip for jazz: REPETITION LEGITIMIZES REPETITION LEGITIMIZES
Wanna improv out of key with chromatic notes and avoid notes? Fine, as long as you do it again
Wanna improv out of key with chromatic notes and avoid notes? Fine, as long as you do it again
Wanna improv out of key with chromatic notes and avoid notes? Fine, as long as you do it again
I just want you to know I read all 3 of those before realizing it was the same sentence.
_Adam Neely lo-fi beat kicks in_
As a psychedelic rock player who learned some jazz to better understand theory and get better at improvisation (and had about as much fun as Nik), this is so goddamn true it hurts. Repeat that spicy phrase and now its a cool motif. Create dissonance? Resolve it up or down a half step, now its a passing tone and resolving it sounds good. I feel like I wasted so much time learning the musical equivalent of calculus just to ultimately learn "repeat your spicy phrases and resolve dissonances by ear; rhythm and melodic phrasing are what normal people respond to".
@@swissarmyknight4306 this is one of the truest paragraphs I've ever read...every note is in play, no matter the dissonance, so long as it is resolved to fit nicely into the listener's ear...boom, jazz improv...not really, but it sure feels that way sometimes.
@@johnjohn37371well, in order to play changes properly, you need to plan and lead your solo through the changes. Basically, resolve your phrases to the notes of the arpeggio of the current chord. And that takes theory, I guess
"It's just luck. That's all jazz is. You just hit random notes and hope you get lucky. It's just GAMBLING."
Bro, that quote single-handedly deserves a Nobel Prize in Literature.
It’s wrong tho
I got to this comment EXACTLY as it was said in the video. Super weird....
You can play random notes (actually playing outside) and it can sound good if you resolve it good
NO IT'S SURPRISE MECHANICS! Oh, wrong chat :D
@@nickj3218 Eh it's not far off really. Rhythm is far more important than the notes. Really the notes don't matter as long as you make it feel good.
Nik, chords can have different voicings when playing piano or guitar, but they remove the bottom note of the main chord, and leave that to the bassist. So, some “rootless voicings” as they call them, are more appropriate for certain chords, and try not to clash your voicing with the pianist.
Jazz Standards are basically the bread and butter of songs in jazz, blues, Latin, etc.
I did not read that shit but im pretty sure he is joking
He knows
Bass is scary
"None of these have told me how to play yet. They just said be smarter than everybody."
Yep. That's really it.
like am i the only jazz musician that is here laughing when he’s looking at the theory stuff lol.
love ur music btw nik
No 😂
I just started learning jazz and I was just happy I understood what a b minor 7 flat five was
Not the only one no 😂
I laughed to, and cried
I play All the small thing
And I'm here thinking CMaj7 sounds jazzy enough
maj7 is life
Same.
E/G#Maj7b5add9(b11)
imagine if this actually exists
I like Cmaj7(#11) better.
@@lashedandscorned So in any given key, that chord would essentially be Maj7b5add9b11 with a b13 in the bass. So in G# Major (7 sharps, you monster) the notes would be
E (b13, bass note)
G# (I)
B# (3)
D (b5)
F## (7)
A# (9)
C (b11)
You picked the worst key for an example but there it is. Can't physically play it on guitar (7 different notes) but it's doable on a piano. The problem with naming big chords like this is that the context actually matters. The key of the piece and the chords that come before it. If I saw that chord in a vacuum, I'd maybe call it Eaugb7#9#11b13, but It's all up to personal interpretation at that point.
If you learn Jazz you can write Revocation riffs. Not a bad trade off haha
Dave is king jazz
Ryan knight had a lot of jazz influence in his playing as well.
Mobile Metal Ryan is a beast riff and solo composer (to me).
Alex skolnick from testament studied it but he doesn’t use it that much in his own music
They have dope riffs!
"I'm just playing random notes at this point"
Congratulations you achieved: Jazz
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As a metal guitarist turned jazz player (going to college now for jazz guitar), I seriously think you should do a follow up video where you get a jazz teacher to show you some stuff. It would be a really cool way to make a part 2 of this journey.
Also if you like Revocation, Dave Davidson has a new band called Gargoyl and it's basically jazz-metal and is full of crazy chords and stuff.
Hope you like earning no money man
@@patrickwilliamson29 what?
@@eggmojiivods4098 I also went the route of studying jazz and unless you teach, there is very little market for it. Don't get me wrong it's a great way to improve your music theory and technical skillz but 100% zero money in it these days. In all honesty I prefer metal music and went back to it and have been very happy ever since.
Plus too many cocky wankers in the jazz scene for my taste
@@patrickwilliamson29 there's no jobs where I live anyway and the future is fucked so I might as well just jam out. I do plan to teach anyway because I love teaching and talking theory
@@eggmojiivods4098 Good for you man, follow your dreams. Hope you do make some money in it though and you do better than myself :)
As a jazzy boy, I was crying when you read the Bm7 half diminished haha!
Same💀💀
We all cried out in locrian, my jazzy friend :p
djazzzz
Haha, I see what you did there
@@nawsh2252 There's actually a video by Rob Scallon called Djazz. It's literally djent+jazz. And sounds really cool.
@@devcor "Met a little shorty down in new Orleans and she makes me feel like DEATH **BRRRRRRRRRRRRR***"
I like that genre
Adamzah S.B I love that album but it’s hardly jazz haha
Lmao “scales and arpeggios, that’s like step 30 for metal musicians”
It’s crazy seeing you grow as a musician even after so much time invested your tone and skill has improved over the last year since I’ve started watching you. You’re awesome Nik!
1:42 Nothing says "Metal Guitarist" more than watching someone give up at learning 7th Chords 😂
Back when I was a teenager, I was studying music and like almost everyone else, Jazz caught my attention, so I decided to try it but then I realized how hard and time consuming it is, that I decided to stop it and keep going for metal lol. Now that I think about it, I could’ve played jazz for my friends weddings and earn some money as that’s quite common in the weddings I’ve been invited to 😂
Mood. It’s worth the time tho. Especially gypsy jazz
Congrats Nik, you've pinpointed my exact feelings every single time I pick up a guitar.
Love this. We need more videos like this. Show me flamenco!
I would get rekt, i'm interested
That little bit you played at 4:40 sounded pretty good. I mainly play metal, but I dabble in jazz. It's not that hard to figure out how to play. Some real challenging music is some from the 15th - 17th centuries. I can't even get past the second bar trying to play it
I remember when I started learning jazz, but already had 2 semesters of music theory before I ever started, so I understood what was being said. The problem I had was the chords since they were shapes I never played before in my life, but through not wanting to look up EVERY SINGLE CHORD I came across, I quickly learned things like "hey, I could just use the shape I learned for this other chord and move it up/down to play similar chords", "I've memorized where these notes are, so maybe I can move them around and get an inversion", and "If I remember the formula right, I should be able to just raise/lower this one note by a fret in a chord shape I already know to be able to play this new chord." There's probably numerous guides that teach those exact things, but I was going at it alone, so the feeling I got when I figured that out by myself was great and it felt like I had found a shortcut; even though it's not a shortcut at all.
Omg " It's just Luck" I'm so dead bro!! Keep em comin' JazzAlgebra is Randomness. I Agree. VERY RESPECTABLE GENRE.
"Just make me play power chords or something!"
-literally every metal guitarist ever
true
I feel call out. 😅
Power chords are life
I love seeing how your chanel keeps growing.
I loved this video so much. I would LOVE to see you actually work with jazz musicians :)
It's surprising how guitarists who are much better than me technique-wise have no idea what the 3rd, 5th, and 7th intervals are! I couldn't believe your face when those were mentioned! I guess it shows how much it's helped me having a quality guitar teacher the past couple years! Wait till you start learning about 9s, 11s, and 13s!
Nik: “I might as well be a bassist.”
Cole Roland: 🧐
This was simply delightful. Well played good sir. Tip o' the cap to you!!
"Play any note that exist because Jazz"😂😂😂
^^^
And don't forget blue notes, that are kinda unexisting :)
Jazz: "yeaahh, we have our own language that everybody need to learn and become a jazz legend"
metal: "haha binary go brrr"
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11/10 laughed immediately and continued throughout the whole video
Yes
Bro, you should do other videos about you learning jazz, this was fun as hell... or maybe you could continue on twitch, like with through the fire and flames. Anyway, much love, your videos are awesome❤️
I actually loved this video, one of the best i have watched in a while.
4:32 *jazz backing track starts
4:38 Nik's thoughts: i'm just gonna start shredding
"You dont need music theory for jazz!!" Instantly starts music theory language
Im on my lunch break right now and its sunny outside and now i get to enjoy your video while eat my lunch, good timing.
you got this! that jam tracks channel is awesome! the chords are pretty straight forward if im reading it right... except that B7alt. it tells you the chord progression they are playing there. E minor with the 9, A minor the same, F# Minor 7 with a flat 5 .. i wanna say thats a dominant chord, which if it is, i think thats the 5th in the key. idk what alt means yet.. I gotta say your by ear improve over it was pretty awesome.
oh my god as a jazz saxophonist I nearly died watching this.
+ For a jazz piano player
“I feel like I’m in calculus right now”
Yea that’s jazz for you
I have been doin jazz since the 90´s I have no so whatever education, still i have worked with Prominent Jazz musicians,....I just have listened to lot of jazz growing up since childhood,.....i just listen inside to my child and hit it,.....Keep doin it Nik ure got it,..i can see it inside ya´ Thanks Nik for ya´ channel.
Coming from both a jazz and metal/rock background, this is great Nik and I love the content! ;)
As a Jazz, math rock, and prog rock guitarist I find you learning these genres very entertaining lol. Jazz is actually pretty easy imo. The hardest part is finding someone who doesn't overcomplicate it.
**prog metal intensifies**
As a beginner Jazz musician this video made me feel so happy, since I knew how to form shell chords
Im knee deep in my jazz studies class.. and I needed this.. your an inspiration
Nik: "I just need to play random notes!"
Adam Neely: _dies inside_
5:07 "I know how to jazz" lmaoo
This was fun! Jazz is hard, but also a very varied genre. If you want to check out something a bit different than standards and such, listen to The Red One by Pat Metheny & John Scofield. It's guitar focused and has parts that sound more like rock than anything. Maybe it's a bit easier to lean into as a metal guitarist...
I can't play jazz to save my life, but if I wanted to start learning, I think I'd begin with these riffs. Or whatever jazzers call it.
thanks for your videos Nik. they give me life during this dreary time
Lol, palm mute. Try some jazz fusion, as in "Race With Devil on Spanish Highway", by Al DiMeola for a big of palm mute. For a classic try "Nuages" by the legendary Django Reinhardt!
I started with jazz lol. Took me years of deep theory study to realize that just playing chromatic bullshit in between root notes is *jazz*. You decoded it a lot faster than I did 😂😂
Took me many years to understand that its all Major 7 scales with a ton of chromaticism.
A fresh content i've been waiting for
“Katfish” Ingram is one you should definitely look up for that jazzy grooves! 🎼🎸 keep on rocking NIK!!!
Okay this can't be real, I was about to try learn jazz and you just uploaded this
It real
: 2.5 beat interval
Nick: Djent
Dude I laughed so hard the entire video.......the best thing I saw today. I feel entertained and sorry for you at the same time.
I found your channel from a comment you left on a song by The Faceless. Great content!
As a person who is almost equally good at metal and jazz I find it both funny and self empowering that I can do something well which Nik cannot. When he fumbled over the half diminished chord (Bm7b5) and called the V chord the “vee” I think I chuckled 😂 Thank you Nik, for making me feel good about my guitar playing for once 😂
chill dude, I'm pretty sure he was just joking lol
Anshul Guglani shhhhhhh 🤫 I can dream
As a jazz musician and a metalhead, I approve
This was funny as hell. Do more of this type stuff!
I've also been self-taught when it comes to music, playing mainly prog metal but with an increasing desire for experimenting with various other genres for about 10 years before choosing to seriously start to learn theory. I currently study at a music college in Tokyo and I'm learning jazz theory quite a lot (because jazz theory is also a big part of Japanese pop music). And I must say that as much as trusting your ears will always be the most important thing imo, learning jazz theory has been incredibly useful. There's a lot of stuff (like smooth transitioning between chords that would seem unrelated) that was really hard to figure out without theory.
PS: Oh, I wish the solution was indeed to just play random notes haha
The jazz solo 5 minutes or so in was actually better than a lot of jazz I’ve heard in clubs.
"I'm just going to guess the key"
Jazz Artists - "Write that down!"
enjoyed this video! you should do more of these :P
Yeah its super fun tbh. The hardest part is the chords. It was a great video nic. Loved it
This is why we need
Jazz core
Ahaha I want to hear that tbh 😂
Isn't that just more-or-less Dance Gavin Dance?
Kyle Rickert oh yea true
A wise man once said - "the only wrong notes played are the ones played at the wrong time"
It's so interesting seeing you struggle with jazz while slaying metal. Reminds me of my friend in HS 😂
This is a fantastic video 🤟👍
“I’m a jazzy boy” - Nik 2020
Well thank you sir for the Nam flashbacks to my Berklee years. You successfully distilled 4 years of anxiety to about 8 minutes with painful accuracy. Bravo!
7:02
*Mind Overload: Default to playing "Enter Sandman" riff*
Lol a jazz version of your intro song would be funny if you continue this in the future
"We cants not plays fast. It ams physically imposskible."
Take this up vote and hope others appreciate that comment like I did.
That sweep picking sounded dope
This video was GREAT I laughed so much please so more like these
So if I just have to hit random notes on my fretboard (cuz jazz of course) I must be the most jazzy person cuz that's all I ever do
I feel special
*avant garde
I wonder how his Jazz songs would sound like.
Metal
Make another video trying to lern jazz, this, was fun
lol 4:40 you got it bro. Felling is more important. Check out some of the old cats, they are legends!
This video summed up:
“THIS EXISTS? HOW????”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nik Nocturnal can’t wait till you decide to learn some random jazz beat thats in 18/39 time
If he hates jazz now, he's probably gonna hate Bossa Nova.
As a Brazilian, Bossa Nova is not that easy. And no BOSSA NOVA IS NOT A JAZZ SUB-GENRE, you freakin people!!!! I have to calm down...
Who tf thinks bossa is a sub of Jazz???
ive spent every night for the past year or so endlessly trying to self teach advanced playing to recreate a technical ambient dent sound. this is like a literally demonstration of my nightly endeavours. what is/when did covid happen? what month is it, people tried to celebrate my birthday even... *carries on trying*
the “just play random notes” thing is so true. i’ve been in jazz bands and jazz vocal groups and stg i mess up and just try my best to make it sound intentional at least every 5 notes.
As a blues guitarist, I'm scared.
I lost it at "I'm a Jazzy Boy".
As someone who grew up playing metal and studied jazz in college this video made me LAUGH. Great content man! This was awesome!
Im only a 3-4month guitar player. I thought i was picking it up fairly quickly, playing through chords and accidentally finding songs... and watching people to realize how much i dont know.
Im living vicariously through your mistakes. Make more of them. Lol
Can you play a jazzy breakdown?