The MOST ASTONISHING Feat In the History of ENDURANCE? | 'Iron Cowboy' James + Sunny Lawrence
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- 'The Iron Cowboy' James Lawrence & partner Sunny share lessons learned after completing 101 iron-distance triathlons in 101 consecutive days, perhaps the most astonishing feat in voluntary human endurance. To read more & peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll643
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:45 - How’s the Body Doing?
00:03:28 - Coming off the 100
00:08:25 - The Difference Between the 50 / 50 / 50 & Conquer 100
00:12:19 - Starting the Race with an Ankle Injury
00:15:13 - Conquer 100: “Injuries, pain & longevity”
00:16:07 - Covid as the Impetus for Running the 100
00:20:26 - How to Evaluate Criticism
00:25:04 - Do Everything You Can Today
00:27:06 - Making Races a Family Endeavor, Deciding to Go for the 100
00:37:55 - The #1 Custom Ankle & Shin Brace-Maker Lived off the Trail He Was Running
00:41:53 - Dealing with a New Problem Every Day
00:42:38 - Sleep Disruption
00:45:22 - Still Struggling with Brain Fog
00:47:54 - UCLA Baseline Testing Before and After
00:49:06 - The Story Behind the Story: Community
00:53:36 - Zero Quitting: The Story of 6-Year-Old Jace and The Iron Cowboy.
00:55:43 - When Were We Taught to Quit?
01:01:28 - “My gift is the ability to suffer.”
01:03:14 - “You never know who’s watching…”
01:06:56 - The Social Media James was Unaware of: Sunny’s Closet Talks / Wingman Wrap Up
01:08:35 - James’ Worst Bike Crash Ever
01:13:18 - Breaking Point / Turning Point: DAY 80
01:17:14 - What is the Self Talk the Iron Cowboy Uses When Feeling Like Quitting?
01:20:23 - “Nobody is the expert at the beginning of their journey. The hardest thing is to start…”
01:23:27 - Comparison to others stops people from starting. Don't copycat. Find your own thing.
01:24:44 - When Sunny & James met Rich & Julie at the airport
01:26:12 - The first podcast with Rich and 50/50/50
01:27:34 - Rich Doing the Wingman Wrap Up on Day 91
01:28:29 - DAY 100. Barely able to run despite the goal. “I can do better.”
01:35:58 - Surprise! Day 101
01:39:37 - In retrospect: What does this all mean?
01:42:30 - James' Projects: Speaking, Writing, & Documentary
01:43:27 - Sunny is the unsung hero of this adventure
01:46:13 - The Number One Question: “How Do You Develop Mental Toughness?”
01:48:16 - How much is physical? How much is mental?
01:49:52 - Take the harder path. Learn to solve problems in the face of adversity.
01:51:38 - Every day on the 100 was about adaptation.
01:53:11 - What do people not get about the 100 and what it took to do it?
01:57:28 - Being consistent and showing up.
01:58:49 - Work, Family, Life Balance. The imbalance is temporary.
02:02:11 - Rich on "Balance"
02:05:36 - If I haven’t suffered, have I worked hard enough?
02:08:04 - Not forcing your passions onto your kids.
02:10:55 - Nurture vs Nature. Keeping your promise.
02:14:19 - Advice On How to Start
02:15:51 - Don't Tell Me What's Next
02:17:24 - Maintaining Body Mass
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Thanks for watching! To read/learn more about James & Sunny Jo go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll643
Rich there is this guy Rait Ratasepp who is currently in the midst of his 60 iron distance triathlons in 60 days. he is an Estonian based in Fuerteventura
Do one without Sunny jo please
@@BucketHat25 I agree....she was a huge part of this feat, yet I felt she was trying too hard in this interview. Wasn't impressed.
This great achievement motivated me to run and finish 5 consequent half marathons in 5 days! 💪 🙏🙏
Congrats man that’s huge!
you proved it to yourself!
If you have a background in any of the 3 disciplines in triathlon you know this mans accomplishment is way too underrated. That level of fitness is levels beyond my understanding I can’t even wrap my head around it
I’m so exhausted listening to this 101 days under taking. Then I realized as a vegetable farmer my season is longer then 101 days, and I think the same thoughts, “ Omg, I have to get up tomorrow and do it again. My (fill in body part) is aching and there are so many tasks unfinished.” I have had so many Day 80 where the hail storm came through or the pest of the year has ruined something major, and I just don’t think I can show up again at Saturday market with a game face. I certainly would not have the guts though to turn a camera on my face and admit that I am about to break, to me sharing the struggle publicly is the hard part. That seems to take more guts they the physical aspect.
Thanks for your work on the farm 🙏🏼💖🙏🏼
I’d like to come volunteer to help out! Please message me if that is possible to come do 😁
I agree with you bother. I was thinking it is digging ditches and plow the farm for 101 days.
Exactly, and at the end of the day, you have something useful and productive from your labor. Not just some hedonistic pointless glory.
A key difference to me is that you are doing something that is actually useful, whereas this, like other forms of intriguing endurance activity, are kind of for the person themself...only.
I saw James Interview with Tom Bilyeu in early 2019 and was at 4 K running for around 3 times a months. I doubled that right after the interview and then did run more. I settled to whenever I would go running to do a Half Marathon and since Ma 2019 to today I have done 200 Half Marathons usually at night on my own in around 2 hours just because of that one interview I saw about the 50 50 50. And I am a creative that doesn't really value sports. The running became my super power for my own happiness and inner wealth. I am one of those stories he may need hear about, but that feels a lot of gratitude for what he did.
34:43 This Woman is as phenomenal as he is. Such an amazing partner and voice of reason in an unreasonable project
No
I would rather listen to the real owner of success. James' wife shows such a dominant attitude that even though I was very curious about the story, I could only listen to the podcast for 30 minutes.
This!!
So many levels to this. The stories of all the people James helped positively influence brought some tears to my eyes. We're all just walking each other home.
I agree. We are all here on Earth 🌍 here to help each other. It’s not easy being human. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
David, I LOVE that saying and concept!
Is that your saying? It’s a great one.
@@adamkatz6532 It's actually a Ram Dass saying. Would recommend checking out Be Here Now
@@YourSmilingWhen Will do thanks for sharing
Not every human can achieve this incredible feat. It takes hardcore training and Superior genetics. Bravo. Truly incredible.
I wrestled from 4 years old.
For a very long time all I knew was training for it and traveling for it.
I remember leaving the mindset that I would take the hard path every time.
I didn’t know what would happen to me, felt like a free fall and a loss of control and a mistake.
But what you really need is to earn your right each day to say that you can still manage mental-toughness-wise to choose the path that compliments your priorities the most.
Don’t struggle to struggle unless your current battle in life is developing that understanding (what am I capable of? What can’t I do?)
If you need other things and you want a network of competing / cross-parasitizing goals, that any optimization of which can only leave you unfulfilled, then you need to compromise one goal for another and another, and that means taking some easy routes. He’s right that any complication to a steadfast work ethic is a waygate for rationalizing surreptitious mindsets and accommodations to weak thinking, but he’s wrong that you should always take every hardship when faced with a choice in the midst of multiple goalposts.
He is trying to instill a mental culture in you that is very real and positive, because the choice to take every hard route is a symbolic totemic action that your brain responds to , it says embrace that which is painful and growth with follow. I just know that that mindset can be done to excess, and result in diminishing effectiveness when applied to specific real world problems that we will all face in life.
I’m finishing medical school in the United States with two learning disabilities, and I’m glad I realized this, so I thought I’d share it here.
He probably understands mental toughness better than I do, I’m not disagreeing with him, just characterizing your route(both easy and hard) requires knowing where you’re going so as to know what diverting resources looks like fundamentally for you and your goal(s).
Im also someone who did his engineering and now applying for master with learning disabilities, thank you for writing this, any tips you have which you would like to on how you manager with the disabilities
Rich you knocked it out of the park with this amazing story. Thanks so much for bringing them on.
Ohhh, I've been so waiting for this one. I can't wait for some quiet time this weekend to listen to this. Thank you!
YESSSS!! Waited a long time for this.
Excited to delve deep into this astonishing endeavour!! Thankyou Rich.
What a great episode! Thank you to you both for what you do
So much gold here. Can’t get enough of this family!
Welp, I was inspired watching this so I decided to do 101 consecutive 5Ks, and I just got to day 50 on Sunday. I posted about it on my Instagram story, and freaking James Lawrence (while on vacation with his wife in Cancun) replied and dared me to run an Ironman. So I’ve just signed up for a half Ironman in September and I’ll do my full one sometime next year… thanks a lot James😅
But actually, geez what an inspirational man. I’m terrified, yes, but also really excited to accomplish something like this!
They are a phenomenal couple! Such an incredible feat, and through it all, still searching to ensure others are doing well
Amazing the extent to which someone who has so much inner strength allows himself to be defined by what even a single voice on social media says.
I picked up on that too.
This was an amazing podcast! Truely inspiring. I guess I feel it’s really important to define acute stress from serious clinical illness of PTSD, yet not to minimise how epic this effort was!
Hi Rich. I just wanted to say that was one of the best interviews I have seen in a long time. It was not rushed, no animosity, no angry outbursts, just simple honest conversation and a fair amount of smiles. With the amount of political diatribe we hear these days it was a welcome change. James and Sonny, it is nice to see you offering honest answers to questions and offering honest advice to those who may need it. Congrats to you both on the 101 and the work you had to do to get through it.
So happy they have finally made it to you! Much love ❤️
So excited for this one.
Just relistened to the book with the recount of the epic 5 and excited you mentioned it.
Thank you so SOOOO much for this video. I cried multiple times while I was watching the video. It's incredible to hear all these stories and what they and other people went through, and it really touches my heart. And the part where James talks about the "comparing oneself to others & because of that not starting it"... really hit me HARD. Cuz that's how I been feeling for so long throughout my adult life and has become taken more substantial presence in my recent life... Thank you again for this video and for the inspiration.
I hope to bring some changes into my life; as Sunny said, "Create my own version of what I want, rather than trying to copycat someone else."
Thank you, Rich, for always bringing & introducing & sharing so many incredible people to/with us
Thank YOU for sharing
A wonderful thanksgiving gift from Rich to their listeners 🙏
I am at a loss for words. This is amazing. I loved this so much.
Definitely impressive, but I would argue Terry Fox running a marathon everyday for 143 days straight on one leg and filled with cancer is the more impressive voluntary endurance accomplishment. This was done back in the early 80's in often horrible weather conditions and living out of a van with a team of two, him and his best friend Doug.
I completely disagree.
Just a pure legend!! RESPECT Brother!!
Thank you! You are opening my mind to a whole new world of possibilities.
I have been waiting for this!!!
Inspirational. The first step crosses the LD/LC, line of departure/line of contact and NO plan survives first contact. Adapt. Improvise. Overcome. Great reminders. Thx. CM.
He finished 101 Ironmans. Can we tell her that he can also finish his sentences. Rich Roll is the host not her. Please do another interview with him alone
She brought valuable points to the table
@@maric820 she could do so by not interrupting, rambling on and cutting both of them off. He can talk. Let him finish his sentence, then add in if needed. He had a support staff that did the miles with him. I don’t see them in there interrupting. Watch Rick Rolls with him. She actually looks at him when talking, she is present and listening to him, not waiting to talk
I agree. This is the most astonishing. It's no exaggeration.
Endurance under one's own control is inherently easier than under the control of outside forces. Years in prison, months under siege, even days against fierce competition is more rigorous than setting records. Endure Stalingrad, endure Treblinka, endure oppression. That's tough.
Wow! Can't wait to listen.
I've had crazy ideas before. Never would I insist on imposing them upon someone I care about as much as my wife or family. No way would I think of myself as that important.
Really appreciated the discussion around balance
Day 80 James live streams and says he's going to try with tears in his eyes and me watching at home 😭😭 and gets on my trainer. ❤️❤️ I followed along during the 100 - so inspired by the people, the journey, and the accomplishments. Great interview with James and Sunny.
happy this convo finally dropped! amazing what james and his team accomplished! 💪💪💪
Bowing down and am soooo intrigued!
Thank you Rich
The part w the little kid getting sum is powerful. The way you said he had not been taught to quit yet.
1st time finding out what happing about this and now i,m going to retool and get back in the game of life /thank you for sharing
The triathlon accomplishments aside,
What amazing humans with their sense of community.
This was great
Awesome conversation! What’s with the video glitching? I noticed it in the Jason Caldwell episode also.
Wonderful.
Hello Adam here,
You will probably recognize me, I am that guy who is super proud to have FINALLY been able to run 6 straight miles at 8:30 /mile.
This guy should toughen up.
Thanks for the inspiration.
Love hearing from these two! Incredible achievement! So inspirational. Really enjoyed listening to Sunnys perspective as well. Don’t like the comments saying they didn’t like having her on. I think she’s great and added a heap to the interview.
Beautiful - would AI ever though of doing anything like this? Not sure. I think it is these ideas that make us special
It’s true, this story is unrelatable. I can’t even wrap my head around what James accomplished and at what cost. It’s unreal
Phenomenal
Replaying now! Have a wonderful day
1:09:09 Best editing in any podcast I have seen
Beyond beyond. That is tougher than tough.
Love your stuff. Any chance of getting nirmal purja on your pod cast. The chap off Netflix who just did the 14 highest mountains and K2 in winter. Ex special forces. Love to hear you chat about his abilities above 8000 Ft etc . Calorie intake to do 14 x 8000 plus peaks in 7 months. Etc. He went up Everest so fast and did two others in like 72 hours.. mind bending stuff
THE IMPORTANCE OF A PERSON WHO BELIEVES AND SUPPORTS.
Wow just wow
Finally!!!!
Hi rich, we need this podcast in spanish, it's great!
Twice, PTSD was mentioned by Sunny. I think this situation dilutes the seriousness of real PTSD.
She's very supportive but I would've left the wife at home for this one 😅
Why?
Woop!
Unbelievably impressive and inspiring achievement and story, but let's just say a little bit of Sunny goes a long way. Reminds me of the Jimmy C's wife from Free Solo. Otherwise, a terrific episode and hats off to RR
You know, many virtuosic ballerinas go through depression after their career ends. They (and you) are used to a level of physical activity that increases serotonin in the bloodstream for reuptake. When the physical intensity slows, the serotonin levels decrease. I think the research shows that 5 minutes a day, running at the top of your capacity increases serotonin in the body. Just some thoughts. I haven't done what you've done, but I've also had occasional massive sweating at night (usually during times of extreme physical activity)...I would love an explanation about the sweating if anyone has one!
At about the 46:50 mark on this podcast James starts talking about a post concussion/traumatic brain injury clinic in Provo, UT that does MRIs while asking patients questions to see what areas of their brain light up. After that testing they have a 30 hour protocol to "turn your brain back on". Anyone know specifically what clinic this is (as I don't see a link in the show notes)?
Months after you asked, but I believe it's Brain Rehab clinic in Orem, which is just barely north of Provo.
As part of their 7-year training totaling 1000 marathons, Japanese marathon monks do 100 double marathons on 100 consecutive days... and finish their training with a 7-day dry fast... when they are required to sit up in prayer and meditation for a full week, forbidden to lie down...
Returning to this.... I'm that (near) 300 pound guy that ran a marathon. The limitations to doing that many iron man's in that many days wouldn't be lack of endurance. It would be lack of speed. Everything is slower at this weight. I'm down 6 pounds since my marathon a couple of weeks ago, but the endurance training doesn't really allow my body to lose weight, so I need to cut weight before my next big endurance challenge. It's just the nature of endurance events that you need to put in calories as you burn them, and I'm better than most at putting in calories while putting in 5 hour training days.
What a beautiful man James is, what a great intellectual
Perfect interview for a 2 hour zwift ride. What brand of hat is ICB wearing ?
Whoah! I am going to live to a HUNDRED AND SIXTY!
just subscribed based on intro
“His(6yr Old)sense of personal possibility is very different now than it was before that.”
Listen, I'm a big fan of David Goggins, and clearly he is a truly amazing human being - but THIS ....101 Iron Man's in 101 days??? That shouldn't be humanly possible. Hell, if someone had done, a week of Iron Man's, I would have been highly impressed. This monster did 101 in 101 days!
Repeating an Iron Man is not "unimaginable", it's simple repetition, it becomes increasingly familiar.
Sure rets
Aawwww yeah!
Excellence
I would totally watch Iron Cowboy VS Jake Paul in a triathlon race. Someone pay this man.
Love how they finish each others...sandwiches.
Check out what Rait Ratasepp just did. You should have him on the podcast. 60 IM distance races in 60 days, averaging under 11 hours per day, average 3:14 marathons, no drafting on the bike ride, no IVs, 5800ft of climbing on each bike ride, 1000ft climbing each marathon. What James did is impressive, but Rait's performance might deserve "MOST ASTONISHING Feat In the History of ENDURANCE?" title.
Amazing man with incredible physical and mental stamina. Definitely someone worth looking up to. But I personally find his wife wants all the attention and there seems to be some arrogance there that suggests she lets the whole "team captain" thing really get to her head. She interrupts way too much. I'd rather watch an interview with just James.
1:04:44 when his alien was trying to come out.
yeah would think would have some researchers follow him. physiologists
Wow
Sunny refers to "PTSD" she still has to work through, but I really don't think that's the right word. What do you think would fit better?
What brand of water is on the table?
Erewhon
You know I like James and what he's done is impressive. But for me there's way too much attention and impact from the external. So a message board is saying something. There were so many mentions of "now they can't say anything".... do it for you. My son is 12 and into endurance sports and I used this as a lesson for him. But again kudos amazing accomplishment
I agree! It’s an amazing accomplishment but I was confused when he said his why was to shut up people. To each their own but I don’t care what people say about me. It’s my life to live. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I greatly appreciate the “new frontier” aspect of this however I have to ask… why? Why go thru this if one doesn’t have to? But maybe that’s just me…
Because he has a whole business around his image of being that guy. That's why.
This is just a different form of addiction.
Okay, but (1h:50min) I am a medical student and marathoner and do hard things constantly and am still debilitatingly depressed, more so than I’ve ever been. It’s not all under your control and I didn’t hear anyone really address that.
Are you debilitatingly depressed if you're actually challenging yourself and overcoming things, or are you just depressed?
You always have some locus of control and part of that is framing. You're not debilitated. You might be depressed, you might not be fulfilled in the ways you want, which is contributing to it. But don't paint yourself in a more negative light than what reality shows. You're in med school and still trying to kick ass in marathons. You might not feel 100 percent, but you are not debilitated and don't trick yourself into thinking you are.
wow
WHAT a wife!... it's no wonder he did what he did!.... plus 5 kids! Switch mind off from the chaos and do 101 ironmans in a row! 😆. I guess his way of managing his life is better than the alternative. 🤷♂️
Sean made look easy
I’ll just take 1 by 1 by Thanks!
Please check video editing at 1 hr 31 min mark: it's skipping.
brace being the next need to have item. at 39 minutes
i guess there are some people who just die during these types of things. when i try anything physically endurance related (2 miles straight jogging, say), i promise, literally, that i feel my heart going crazy, i cant breathe, i'm fainting and seeing yellow/black (eyesight going out), i'm throwing up, head's pounding, everything is hurting, I'm confused.... etc. and this is all at, like, 1/10000 of a typical healthy person's limits.
I look perfectly in shape, but my arteries have to look like... idk... clumpy-rotted feta cheese that's been shoved through a drain pipe daily for 40 years...
I think the only reeason I'm curently alive is cuz i take 400 mg of coq10/d.
👍
I don't understand the hate or negativity espoused by some..."slow twitch forum" ,etc. I am genuinely asking what the negativity was or is about? The criticism?
Alright! I am going to live to be TWO hundred and five!
Why do you think I compete in powerlifting? Because it’s so much easier than endurance competition.
1:19:59 Hm 50 to 101, not sure that's incremental.