@@ivangrela2341 cultists be making suicide pacts, while the big money is in immortality pacts, lets meet again in 100 years, lets see who is really commited
Not just any someone, but Dream and Death... I'm going to start saying the same shit from now on, to see if dream gifts a million dollars every year or death gives me the same deal. 😂
Lol I read so many tales about gods making bets over some random humans who be minding their own business. maybe i should start talking about about my wishes and hope some bored god is listening 🤔
@@nathansossai it’s meant to be a serious moment. The fact that he used the name Death implies all the niceties he usually has towards Desire are gone. It was used to heavily emphasize the threat
@@Rensune well yes, that’s kind of the point of Dream’s journey in this series. Death has already done that, which she hints at a lot in this episode, but not all of them have reached that epiphany, enlightenment, or however you want to describe it.
I consider this Ep a legit masterpiece. One of the best episodes of TV ever made, any show, any genre. Dead serious. Been looking forward to y’all watching this one for a LONG time now.
I think it's more than that, too. Mentioned in later episodes (spoilers): that the library contains "every book ever written, or that will be written". Time is an odd duck.
There are 10 Sandman books to adapt, Season 1 only covered the first 2. books. And it only gets better. If Netflix cancels it they’re clowns, it could be the best series ever
something interesting was in the 1389 and 1989 bars, the patrons are talking about similar things: taxes, jobs, and they even make the same “hunting for rabbits again” joke
The same old "the poor are just lazy" biases, too. Which is a derivative of the "just world" fallacy. Too bad we've a personification of such nonsense running so many nations these days. The apocalypse may be complex, but I'm not finding it very original.
This episode was so good. Dream questioning his purpose and being reminded by his sister that they exist to serve humans and guide them, which is crazy to think about as they are essentially "gods". His centuries old friend didn't live driven by purpose, rather he was driven by the desire to experience all of life's pleasure. DOPE
@@GriffinPilgrim Sure, that would change, but I don't see it preventing the whole scene. It's not a big deal at all that the scene wasn't in the show, anyway. It's just something I would have liked to see, but it's certainly not detrimental.
Neil Gaiman is Executive producer (and a few of the voices). They hired different directors for different episodes. The work involved in directing one hour of a show is huge and Gaiman is doing production and writing, I think adding directing to that would probably kill him.
Neil Gaiman is the writer of Sandman. He’s heavily involved in the series. Creative control. The show’s had to meet his expectations. Gaiman also wrote the novel American Gods, which was made for TV by Amazon Prime. He co-wrote Good Omens, also adapted into an Amazon series. It’s freaking great. Other TV credits include episodes of Doctor Who, Babylon 5. Lucifer is loosely based on one of his comics too, now that I think about it. Coraline the movie was adapted on his story. Same for Mirror Mask. I think Gaiman also wrote the screenplay for Beowulf. As well as the English dialogue for the adaptation of Princess Mononoke.
Small Correction. American Gods was on Starz. Also Gaiman also wrote the graphic novel Stardust, which he adapted into a prose novel, which was then adapted into a movie of the same name. One of his earlier novels Neverwhere was adapted into a BBC show.
In fact, Lucifer was based on *this* comic. Kind of. The show was loosely based on Mike Carey's run, but Carey's Lucifer is technically the same Lucifer from The Sandman, just in a different situation. So in an alternate universe, Gwendolyn Christie is the one solving crimes in LA 😁
Death has always the best line whatever the fictions. I still remember the line he said in Charmed: " i am not good or evil , i just am, i'm inevitable". Or his line about god in Supernatural: "Life, Death the Chicken, the egg regardless i'll reap him too.. God will die too" And now her line about waiting when the first living was born. Death has always the best lines.
"These episodes are so well done." Well, the original writter Neil Gaiman is the show runner, he is making sure they keep the text as close to the original graphic novel as possible
I love how human Gaiman makes Rob Gatling - he makes mistakes sometimes horrific ones depending on the century, but he grows and changes and is honestly trying... he's selfish and cruel and kind but honestly wants to live....kinda like all of us
17:10 UGH I love these three’s reactions to that line. It was also my first time seeing a formerly mortal character not wish for death after experiencing whatever life threw at them, and it was really refreshing and cool. Their reactions just added so much excitement to the reveal and now I can’t help but imagine them as three immortal beings watching humans fumble about throughout existence. Especially after Roshi’s impressed&fascinated look and Sheera’s “he’s intriguing, I’ll give him that”…
He's literally in Dreamland. As he's going through time he's seeing dreams come true. Better beer, liquor, cereal, pizza, cars, television etc... Why go to sleep when you can see everyone's dream and benefit from them. 🤣
"I'm gonna build a building shaped like me and I'm only gonna talk to me because I'm beautiful 💅" lmao 🤣 never realized that truly is a depiction of his conceit
Desire wasn't talking to themself though. They were talking to their twin sister, Despair. As they said: "attend, sweet sibling. I stand in my gallery and hold your sigil." So they clearly were talking to a sibling.
Just for going forward, both the actor and the character of Desire are nonbinary, so they/them pronouns. Glad you guys are loving this amazing series! It's always nice to see someone displayed who doesn't want death when given immortality, because I feel like it just depends on the person who gets immortality.
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The character is genderfluid so he/him and she/her works along with they/them. The actor is indeed nonbinary, so they/them for them.
@ fair, in the comics they are even referred to with it pronouns, but the reactors are likely unaware of this and since we see desire take no differing forms during this season in any way I figure it's probably best to call them by the actor's pronouns.
This is my favorite episode of TV so far this year. And there are a lot of little detail in this episode too. All of Will Shakespeare and Christopher Marlowe's lines are said in iambic pentameter, a style of lyrical poetry they were famous for and the conversation of the bar patrons through the centuries are all the same. They are all discussing politics, impending apocalyptic events, the same or a similar joke. And the dude who plays Hob is Ben Kingsley's son, Ferdinand Kingsley.
Random Friend: What will you do with all that time? Hobs: I’ll find better friends than you. Centuries later, Dream: I heard it’s impolite to keep one’s friends waiting.
Desire actually isn't a "he" or a "she", because Desire can never have just one of anything including gender. they are, after all, whatever you most desire. They're also played by the non-binary actor Mason Alexander Park.
The episode was written 30 years ago... I remember buying floppies of The Sandman in the early 90s. The comic where Death is introduced is among one of my favorites of the run (and there are quite a few).
This is honestly one of the best episodes of tv of all time. The whole episode could’ve been just about Dream traveling and talking with Death while she is guiding souls to the afterlife. I mean first the scene with her guiding the old man, letting him say the Shema prayer made me tear up right away, and I’m not even Jewish. But then they show us the story of Hob Gadling and I could NOT take my eyes off the screen for a second. Also in the comic she is white and pale, but I love that they cast a black woman and that it was Kirby Howell-Babtiste, her version of death is so warm and kind and caring. I’ve been on the side that thinks immortality for mortals is a curse, that over time your moral compass would break, you would look at other mortals as just insects, and your own sense of humanity (your soul, spirit, chi, ka, whatever you want to call it) would crumble away into dust. But Hob Gadling is a truly exceptional man for living as long as he had and not become either a power hungry psychopath or just an outright piece of crap. Yes he veered off the path and was involved briefly in the slave trade, but Morpheus managed to show him the error of his ways. Hob is the embodiment of looking at the bright side! And Hob had an effect on Morpheus because after spending so much time with Hob he actually did come to care for him. And in the end Dream finally admitted that he and Hob were friends.
I realized every time I've watched this one or watched someone watch it I start tearing up the moment she appears. I loved her so much in the comics and she does a fantastic job here too. If for some reason Netflix does cancel this you can at least enjoy the comics, they are beautiful. There's even a special release of just her stories collected
Roshi misunderstood completely, the guy hadn't been alive for "hundreds of years", he had been alive for like 30 years at that point, in the beginning when he said "I've decided, I'm not going to die!". So when him and Dream met in 1489, he was his normal human age + 100. So maybe around 130-ish years old. Not "hundreds of years old" at THAT point.
this was the ep i've been waiting on, i just loved the talk with Dream and Death! i love how Death is portrayed here, unique in a way you hardly see... plus the two side of a coin with both parts of the episode
One of the subtle things in the Hob meetings arc is how much of the ambient chatter in the pub NEVER changes. Yes, things evolve but humans tell the same jokes and complain about the same stuff…
If they get more seasons, I hope Hob's brief time involved in the slave trade is explored. It's talked about in the comics, and he really took Dream's advice to heart and changed a great deal after. Hobs and Death are still some of my favorite characters because they embrace who they are.
You have to read the comics!! Some stuff was changed but the series sticks so closely to the original source material. So glad you all are enjoying it.
I love how mindblowing old buildings are to Americans sometimes. Yes, its entirely possible for a building that on and off has had bars in it to be around for 600 years. My best mate from university has his apartment in a building from 1503. The one next to it has a blues bar on the ground floor and the owner has three flats above it, built in 1446. I admit that it is not THAT common (fires and wars and stuff like that are a thing) but 7-400 year old buildings in historic city centers aren't that outlandish. The oldest church in my city is from the tenth century, so literally a thousand years old.
Fun fact, we don't actually know how William Shakespeare's name was spelled. There wasn't really a consistent way to spell ANY word in English back then, and it's written down as "Shakespeare," "Shaxper," "Shaskpeer," and "Shaksberd" in a few different places, all referring (as best as we know) to the same people.
It’s not at all uncommon for a place such as a pub to be hundreds of years old and still being used. A lot of Americans sometimes have a hard time conceptualising that given the United States as a country is much younger in comparison.
I read in an interview or something that the creator said he made death kind and friendly cause : "I wanted to create the kind of Death that I would like to meet when my life is over."
The is very faithful to the comics. Some of the dialogue is straight out of the comics. The reveal of the sister is the same as in the comics. Even the bit with Franklin. This episode was the first that skipped ahead of the order the stories happened in the comics. The story with his sister and the one with Hob were two different stories and there were a few issues between them. In the comics Dream escape into contemporary time that comic was published which was around 1989 so he was just in time for his meeting with Hob. With the show happening now there's an extra 30+ years which is why they had to explain why some of the character we met at the start were really old, 30+ years older than they were in the comics. And because the show lines up with some real historical events and people (The Sleepy sickness and Will Shakespeare so far) the year some things happen couldn't change.
Desire has no gender, they are classified as non-binary. They are a strikingly beautiful, androgynous figure of gender-fluidity; they can be male, female, both, or neither as the situation warrants.
About the kids thing, I remember that there was a comic about immortals and one of the rules they followed was “no family.” You find out in one of their stories that he went back home and tried to reconnect with his kids but they grew to distrust and hate him because they resented his immortality (or were convinced he was lying about not being able to share it, and so felt like it was a test or something where they had to earn the truth and always “failed”). It was messed up. The little indie movie “The Man From Earth” also deals with that a bit, where a history professor is leaving and all his friends in the faculty surprise him with a going away party, and the conversation turns to a “hypothetical” person who has lived for 10,000 years and never dies… who always has to move before people get suspicious.
Neil Gaiman wrote the comic, and the show is more faithful to the dialogue than you might expect. (There's a reactor that puts up comic panels alongside the video feed for comparison, it's a good example.) These two stories are favourites for many; and in this format, a nice break from John Dee before shit gets real again with the Corinthian.
This is my favorite episode of the show by far. I dropped the show at episode 8 because I lost interest, but if anyone asked me if this show is worth watching, I'd say yes just because of this episode.
One of my fave episodes! The Sandman originally ran for I wanna say....9 volumes? and this season covers the first two, so there's plenty more for Netflix to draw from.
Whenever someone dies, Death is there... so when Jesemy or the Magus die right in front of the crystal prison Dream is in, Death saw. she knew Dream was imprisoned; but the Endless do not interfere with each others affairs without permission. Dream was just too stubborn to ask for help
Will you guys react to Cyberpunk: Edgerunners? It is masterpies (not my opinion only, tomatoes give it 100% and audience approval 92%) if you like cyberpunk genre dont miss it. Plot, music, charecter design, animation everythink is ART.
Kinda upset with the reaction... This episode is the best / among the best in the entire season. There is a strong message, Death is the best character ever, there are strong scenes... But they are just cracking jokes all the time, not focused, whereas she said some pretty deep shit... Too bad 😔
Funny Tidbit: because in the Original Dream wasn't imprisoned as long, he actually didn't miss his appointment. He still came in with the same line about not letting your frineds wait, so it doesn't relly change much, but I find it nice that this time, he actually has to apologize for being late
Reason everybody recognizes her after a bit is cause she meets everyone when they're born also. She's the first face you'll see when your life starts and the last you'll see when it's done.
At the end of the episode (around 24:06) Roshi asks who are writing these episodes. This was originally a graphic novel series (and to this point, everything in the episodes is almost straight from the comics) written by Neil Gaiman. Who also the author of American Gods, Coraline, Stardust, Mirrormask, and co-author of Good Omens, among others. So yeah, a hell of an author, although I've always thought Sandman was his best work.
Kind of wish y'all took the time to really watch and absorb the Death part, but I think sometimes y'all use comedy as a coping tool because it gets sad, so I understand that too.
Something really cool that they changed from the comic is that Dream and Hob's most recent meeting actually DID happen in 1989, because Neil Gaiman set the main story in that year and Dream had escaped by that point in the story. Hob and Dream still had their fight so that tension was still there regarding if Dream would show up or not. However, since the Netflix show is set in the modern day, they had to have Dream miss the 1989 meeting and show up later.
Every other thumbnail: Crying
Roshi's thumbnail: Laughing hysterically
@@Squeekysquid It ain't them without that energy lmao gotta love em
i can already hear lupa's gut laughter through thumbnail
We knew what we signed up for XD
Drug belt 😂
You can either cry or laugh, it's all a reflection on the same thing.
This was my favorite episode. Not action packed or anything. Just a simple discussion of life through a human and another Endless.
Mine too.
Same, I love Death so much
Couldn't agree more
Same. This was my favorite episode from S1.
Loved the second half of the episode as much as the first.
Can you imagine becoming immortal just because someone was ease dropping on your conversation at the right time?
Free immortality, let's goooo
And that dumb fuck roderick burgess doing all that shit for immortality
@@ivangrela2341 cultists be making suicide pacts, while the big money is in immortality pacts, lets meet again in 100 years, lets see who is really commited
Not just any someone, but Dream and Death... I'm going to start saying the same shit from now on, to see if dream gifts a million dollars every year or death gives me the same deal. 😂
Lol I read so many tales about gods making bets over some random humans who be minding their own business. maybe i should start talking about about my wishes and hope some bored god is listening 🤔
They specifically never call Death by her designation, because she is more than just Death.
Dream literally calls her death in the last episode.
@@nathansossai it’s meant to be a serious moment. The fact that he used the name Death implies all the niceties he usually has towards Desire are gone. It was used to heavily emphasize the threat
All of the Endless are "More" than their names.
@@Rensune well yes, that’s kind of the point of Dream’s journey in this series. Death has already done that, which she hints at a lot in this episode, but not all of them have reached that epiphany, enlightenment, or however you want to describe it.
I consider this Ep a legit masterpiece. One of the best episodes of TV ever made, any show, any genre. Dead serious. Been looking forward to y’all watching this one for a LONG time now.
How they handled this story was what would make or break the series for me, and they nailed it
@@Cs-cp6vo same
YES
"Dead serious" lmao
Literally the only episode I watched deaths portrayal was just that good
Btw if you didn't notice. Dream, literally knows everything about any entity that sleeps. That library they have in the Dreaming are his memories.
I think it's more than that, too. Mentioned in later episodes (spoilers):
that the library contains "every book ever written, or that will be written". Time is an odd duck.
Man the baby one break me
Dude just got free trial of life
In the comic, you can actually hear what the baby is thinking so it's extra sad. "Is that it? Is that all I get?"
@@rampant1apart that is so painful
@@rampant1apart goddamn it man, why did put this little funfact in here, you just made me shed a tear
@@fortunelekoto6704 Oh it gets worse than that. You see the mother’s reaction in the comic as well.
@@luckoftheirish5662 goddamn man
Fun fact, the Geoffrey in the bar in 1389 talking about writing "Tavern tales", was Geoffrey Chaucer, the author of "The Canterbury Tales".
Between him and William Shakespeare, that's one hell of a tavern.
And the man with the bust leg that Shakespeare was talking to and admiring was Christopher Marlowe, the playwright
Good catch..
There are 10 Sandman books to adapt, Season 1 only covered the first 2. books. And it only gets better. If Netflix cancels it they’re clowns, it could be the best series ever
you know they spend 1M per episode, right? It's hardly to get a season 2
@@astrayfong you ever seen the budget of some shitty films out there? 1M for 1 hour of quality content is nothing to Netflix
@@astrayfong actually it was 15 million per episode
@@astrayfong Not sure you get how "investment" works.
Making Sandman tv show is very expensive so new subs for Netflix mus watch first sandman if you want season 2
2:32
LMAO Roshi was like
"There was only one thing in my mind: Vengeance."
"He's just like me fr."
"It wasn't satisfying."
"...or not."
I died at "Drug belt" 🤣
Kirby is a queen. She was so amazing as death❤️
she's super good
She nailed it. Exactly as she should be from the comics.
something interesting was in the 1389 and 1989 bars, the patrons are talking about similar things: taxes, jobs, and they even make the same “hunting for rabbits again” joke
"I've seen people, and they don't change. Not in the important things" - Hob Gadling in the original comic, 1889
The same old "the poor are just lazy" biases, too. Which is a derivative of the "just world" fallacy.
Too bad we've a personification of such nonsense running so many nations these days. The apocalypse may be complex, but I'm not finding it very original.
@@neilhenderson5581 So true. The only real difference between a child in 3000 BCE and an adult in modern day is fancier toys.
Sounds like a Death and Taxes joke in there somewhere. :)
I freaking love Desire's strongholds. You wanna know EVERYTHING about the character? Boom, there go in you one shot.
This episode was so good. Dream questioning his purpose and being reminded by his sister that they exist to serve humans and guide them, which is crazy to think about as they are essentially "gods". His centuries old friend didn't live driven by purpose, rather he was driven by the desire to experience all of life's pleasure. DOPE
That YG edit when dream met his friend completely killed me 😂
Episodes 4, 5 & 6 were all bangers.
I wish the last four episodes were as good as those three.
11 is one of the best, too.
The most beautiful episode and it follows the comics very faithfully.
I kind of wish they kept the part at the comedy club, though. Just imagine your jokes dying on stage, and then you do.
@@0okamino They'd have to change the act; she was cracking jokes about Batman as a real person and the story no longer takes place in the DC Universe.
@@GriffinPilgrim Sure, that would change, but I don't see it preventing the whole scene. It's not a big deal at all that the scene wasn't in the show, anyway. It's just something I would have liked to see, but it's certainly not detrimental.
@@0okamino Oh yeah, not saying you couldn't still have the scene, just pointing out an oddity of adaption.
Death is THE BADDEST shawty on this show HANDS DOWN!!! She so fine!!😭🤤
Fun fact: the comic book artist and creator HIMSELF is the director of this show, that’s why it’s so cool and magical ✨💯🔥
Neil Gaiman is Executive producer (and a few of the voices). They hired different directors for different episodes. The work involved in directing one hour of a show is huge and Gaiman is doing production and writing, I think adding directing to that would probably kill him.
Neil Gaiman is the writer of Sandman. He’s heavily involved in the series. Creative control. The show’s had to meet his expectations.
Gaiman also wrote the novel American Gods, which was made for TV by Amazon Prime. He co-wrote Good Omens, also adapted into an Amazon series. It’s freaking great. Other TV credits include episodes of Doctor Who, Babylon 5. Lucifer is loosely based on one of his comics too, now that I think about it.
Coraline the movie was adapted on his story. Same for Mirror Mask. I think Gaiman also wrote the screenplay for Beowulf. As well as the English dialogue for the adaptation of Princess Mononoke.
Small Correction. American Gods was on Starz.
Also Gaiman also wrote the graphic novel Stardust, which he adapted into a prose novel, which was then adapted into a movie of the same name. One of his earlier novels Neverwhere was adapted into a BBC show.
@@michaelash8552 thank you for the correction. And I did forget Stardust and Neverwhere. Both good stories.
In fact, Lucifer was based on *this* comic. Kind of. The show was loosely based on Mike Carey's run, but Carey's Lucifer is technically the same Lucifer from The Sandman, just in a different situation. So in an alternate universe, Gwendolyn Christie is the one solving crimes in LA 😁
Death has always the best line whatever the fictions. I still remember the line he said in Charmed: " i am not good or evil , i just am, i'm inevitable".
Or his line about god in Supernatural: "Life, Death the Chicken, the egg regardless i'll reap him too..
God will die too"
And now her line about waiting when the first living was born. Death has always the best lines.
Yoooooooooooo the second one is tufffffff yooooooooooo
Who's writing those episodes? My man Neil Gaiman wrote the comic back in the 90's and it's pretty much word for word what the show is.
80's! The next series if they get it was written in the 90's.
He’s was incredibly involved in the production
"These episodes are so well done."
Well, the original writter Neil Gaiman is the show runner, he is making sure they keep the text as close to the original graphic novel as possible
Kirby nailed the most crucial part of Death: how surpisignly charming and genuine she is.
Who knew death could be so beautiful
I love how human Gaiman makes Rob Gatling - he makes mistakes sometimes horrific ones depending on the century, but he grows and changes and is honestly trying... he's selfish and cruel and kind but honestly wants to live....kinda like all of us
17:10 UGH I love these three’s reactions to that line. It was also my first time seeing a formerly mortal character not wish for death after experiencing whatever life threw at them, and it was really refreshing and cool. Their reactions just added so much excitement to the reveal and now I can’t help but imagine them as three immortal beings watching humans fumble about throughout existence. Especially after Roshi’s impressed&fascinated look and Sheera’s “he’s intriguing, I’ll give him that”…
He's literally in Dreamland. As he's going through time he's seeing dreams come true. Better beer, liquor, cereal, pizza, cars, television etc... Why go to sleep when you can see everyone's dream and benefit from them. 🤣
"I'm gonna build a building shaped like me and I'm only gonna talk to me because I'm beautiful 💅" lmao 🤣 never realized that truly is a depiction of his conceit
Desire wasn't talking to themself though. They were talking to their twin sister, Despair. As they said: "attend, sweet sibling. I stand in my gallery and hold your sigil." So they clearly were talking to a sibling.
@@bookswithike3256 yeah but it was still funny and he really is that conceited lol but yeah I know he talks to Despair and Dream in later episodes
Just for going forward, both the actor and the character of Desire are nonbinary, so they/them pronouns. Glad you guys are loving this amazing series! It's always nice to see someone displayed who doesn't want death when given immortality, because I feel like it just depends on the person who gets immortality.
The character is genderfluid so he/him and she/her works along with they/them. The actor is indeed nonbinary, so they/them for them.
@ fair, in the comics they are even referred to with it pronouns, but the reactors are likely unaware of this and since we see desire take no differing forms during this season in any way I figure it's probably best to call them by the actor's pronouns.
This is my favorite episode of TV so far this year. And there are a lot of little detail in this episode too. All of Will Shakespeare and Christopher Marlowe's lines are said in iambic pentameter, a style of lyrical poetry they were famous for and the conversation of the bar patrons through the centuries are all the same. They are all discussing politics, impending apocalyptic events, the same or a similar joke. And the dude who plays Hob is Ben Kingsley's son, Ferdinand Kingsley.
Random Friend: What will you do with all that time?
Hobs: I’ll find better friends than you.
Centuries later, Dream: I heard it’s impolite to keep one’s friends waiting.
9:20 drug belt! I almost died laughing at that
23:11 This reunion was touching but this edit really had me in my feelings.
😐
Desire actually isn't a "he" or a "she", because Desire can never have just one of anything including gender. they are, after all, whatever you most desire. They're also played by the non-binary actor Mason Alexander Park.
lame
@@Web497 why is it lame? I can’t think of a better acting and character choice than having an embodiment of desire that isn’t gender-specific.
@@ericstahmer720 That idiot is a bigot, don't even bother
9:28, "pass me my drug belt"😂😂😂
Bro I have waiting for this episode!!!
This is literally the best episode of the season ‼️
This was my fav episode. Favorite of any movie, series etc. This was amazing. Well done
Dude that baby made me cry for the whole, I would be beyond sad if I left the room and I come back and it’s dead
sids is real bro 😔
The episode was written 30 years ago... I remember buying floppies of The Sandman in the early 90s. The comic where Death is introduced is among one of my favorites of the run (and there are quite a few).
This is honestly one of the best episodes of tv of all time. The whole episode could’ve been just about Dream traveling and talking with Death while she is guiding souls to the afterlife. I mean first the scene with her guiding the old man, letting him say the Shema prayer made me tear up right away, and I’m not even Jewish. But then they show us the story of Hob Gadling and I could NOT take my eyes off the screen for a second. Also in the comic she is white and pale, but I love that they cast a black woman and that it was Kirby Howell-Babtiste, her version of death is so warm and kind and caring.
I’ve been on the side that thinks immortality for mortals is a curse, that over time your moral compass would break, you would look at other mortals as just insects, and your own sense of humanity (your soul, spirit, chi, ka, whatever you want to call it) would crumble away into dust. But Hob Gadling is a truly exceptional man for living as long as he had and not become either a power hungry psychopath or just an outright piece of crap. Yes he veered off the path and was involved briefly in the slave trade, but Morpheus managed to show him the error of his ways. Hob is the embodiment of looking at the bright side! And Hob had an effect on Morpheus because after spending so much time with Hob he actually did come to care for him. And in the end Dream finally admitted that he and Hob were friends.
morality is made up anyway.
@@Web497 okay psychopath.
They both seem like boyfriends..maybe Hob and drama had a fling. Lol
@@xaldinfash8252 ?
First time I watched this episode I teared up, now watching this reaction I almost choked laughing at "drug belt"
This episode is now in my top 25 TV episodes, maybe top 15. So many great messages conveyed in the dialogue and story. Tears every time.
This is supposed to be a sad episode, and with the jokes you guys are missing the essence of it .
I realized every time I've watched this one or watched someone watch it I start tearing up the moment she appears. I loved her so much in the comics and she does a fantastic job here too. If for some reason Netflix does cancel this you can at least enjoy the comics, they are beautiful. There's even a special release of just her stories collected
In her introduction we get the chairs on the table quote and a variation on her teasing Franklin about how he died and I've loved her ever since
Not sure how y’all managed to find so much humor in this episode. Interesting.
fav episode. also desire goes by they/them
Damn. Sheera bodied Roshi with that drug belt line. LOL 9:43. Look at the veins bussin out my mans forehead bruh🤣🤣
Roshi misunderstood completely, the guy hadn't been alive for "hundreds of years", he had been alive for like 30 years at that point, in the beginning when he said "I've decided, I'm not going to die!". So when him and Dream met in 1489, he was his normal human age + 100. So maybe around 130-ish years old. Not "hundreds of years old" at THAT point.
this was the ep i've been waiting on, i just loved the talk with Dream and Death! i love how Death is portrayed here, unique in a way you hardly see... plus the two side of a coin with both parts of the episode
One of the subtle things in the Hob meetings arc is how much of the ambient chatter in the pub NEVER changes. Yes, things evolve but humans tell the same jokes and complain about the same stuff…
I got chills at certain moments. One of my favorite episodes of TV.
I am definitely going to make Cream Stick jokes from now on.
If they get more seasons, I hope Hob's brief time involved in the slave trade is explored. It's talked about in the comics, and he really took Dream's advice to heart and changed a great deal after.
Hobs and Death are still some of my favorite characters because they embrace who they are.
You have to read the comics!! Some stuff was changed but the series sticks so closely to the original source material. So glad you all are enjoying it.
Thank you I needed that. "drug belt" 😂
The drug belt made me wheez in middle being emotional 🤣🤣🤣
This was my favorite episode of the series. The part with death was amazing, and then Hob was really intriguing and a very satisfying finale.
The big shaq clip got me crying 🤣🤣
Desire was talking to his twin sister despair. Ya'll was talking through it. lol.
I love how mindblowing old buildings are to Americans sometimes. Yes, its entirely possible for a building that on and off has had bars in it to be around for 600 years. My best mate from university has his apartment in a building from 1503. The one next to it has a blues bar on the ground floor and the owner has three flats above it, built in 1446. I admit that it is not THAT common (fires and wars and stuff like that are a thing) but 7-400 year old buildings in historic city centers aren't that outlandish. The oldest church in my city is from the tenth century, so literally a thousand years old.
Oh wow, the observation about building the bar is one that never occurred to me, superb. :)
Fun fact, we don't actually know how William Shakespeare's name was spelled. There wasn't really a consistent way to spell ANY word in English back then, and it's written down as "Shakespeare," "Shaxper," "Shaskpeer," and "Shaksberd" in a few different places, all referring (as best as we know) to the same people.
i said “and neither will you” at the same time as rosh, bro i fucking hollered 😭😭
I like that Hob and Dream made friends. It was out of curiousity and not he cares
You get what everyone gets no more and no less. You get a lifetime.
YaBoyRoshi, the only channel i know of that can crack jokes and make me laugh when niggas and babies are literally dying😂😂🤣🤣
It’s not at all uncommon for a place such as a pub to be hundreds of years old and still being used. A lot of Americans sometimes have a hard time conceptualising that given the United States as a country is much younger in comparison.
7:43 LOL!!! 😂😂 them water bugs be all over at night down in the south…
In England, there are very OLD taverns and homes. Even 1000 years old.
I read in an interview or something that the creator said he made death kind and friendly cause : "I wanted to create the kind of Death that I would like to meet when my life is over."
Funny enough: Death doesnt know where they go. They only have the "Time of their Life."
Death is not the problem, your fright of it is..Just go with the sound of her wings...
Sand Circulating A/C Unit..
A Drug Belt...
Bruh, Sheera was killing me 🤣
We've got pubs FAR older than a few hundred years. My exs family lived in a 400 year old house!
The is very faithful to the comics. Some of the dialogue is straight out of the comics. The reveal of the sister is the same as in the comics. Even the bit with Franklin. This episode was the first that skipped ahead of the order the stories happened in the comics. The story with his sister and the one with Hob were two different stories and there were a few issues between them. In the comics Dream escape into contemporary time that comic was published which was around 1989 so he was just in time for his meeting with Hob. With the show happening now there's an extra 30+ years which is why they had to explain why some of the character we met at the start were really old, 30+ years older than they were in the comics. And because the show lines up with some real historical events and people (The Sleepy sickness and Will Shakespeare so far) the year some things happen couldn't change.
She didn't bounce the baguette off his head, though. 0/10, worst adaptation ever. Can't wait for season 2.
Shaxberd is the original name, as language evolved, it became Shakespeare
Desire has no gender, they are classified as non-binary. They are a strikingly beautiful, androgynous figure of gender-fluidity; they can be male, female, both, or neither as the situation warrants.
About the kids thing, I remember that there was a comic about immortals and one of the rules they followed was “no family.” You find out in one of their stories that he went back home and tried to reconnect with his kids but they grew to distrust and hate him because they resented his immortality (or were convinced he was lying about not being able to share it, and so felt like it was a test or something where they had to earn the truth and always “failed”). It was messed up.
The little indie movie “The Man From Earth” also deals with that a bit, where a history professor is leaving and all his friends in the faculty surprise him with a going away party, and the conversation turns to a “hypothetical” person who has lived for 10,000 years and never dies… who always has to move before people get suspicious.
A lot of historians said that Will Shakespeare had a ghost writer but it can't be confirmed .
Neil Gaiman wrote the comic, and the show is more faithful to the dialogue than you might expect. (There's a reactor that puts up comic panels alongside the video feed for comparison, it's a good example.) These two stories are favourites for many; and in this format, a nice break from John Dee before shit gets real again with the Corinthian.
bro was just waiting for the new patch every 100 years
"Pass me my drug belt!" 🤣
This is my favorite episode of the show by far. I dropped the show at episode 8 because I lost interest, but if anyone asked me if this show is worth watching, I'd say yes just because of this episode.
You can watch episode 11, is not about anything you see in episode 8, like this episode it has its own narrative, two stories
Watch the bonus episode. They are fun stand alone stories.
That's a shame man, 9 and 10 are really good.
I will never not cry at the baby scene.
One of my fave episodes! The Sandman originally ran for I wanna say....9 volumes? and this season covers the first two, so there's plenty more for Netflix to draw from.
the drug belt ended me.
Whenever someone dies, Death is there... so when Jesemy or the Magus die right in front of the crystal prison Dream is in, Death saw. she knew Dream was imprisoned; but the Endless do not interfere with each others affairs without permission. Dream was just too stubborn to ask for help
Will you guys react to Cyberpunk: Edgerunners? It is masterpies (not my opinion only, tomatoes give it 100% and audience approval 92%) if you like cyberpunk genre dont miss it. Plot, music, charecter design, animation everythink is ART.
Kinda upset with the reaction... This episode is the best / among the best in the entire season. There is a strong message, Death is the best character ever, there are strong scenes... But they are just cracking jokes all the time, not focused, whereas she said some pretty deep shit... Too bad 😔
That YG music part at 23:10 cracked me up big time :D
If we reincarnate we all must have thousands or millions of families out there.. I'd forgotten how good this episode was.
We're here! My favorite personification of Death! 💀
Funny Tidbit: because in the Original Dream wasn't imprisoned as long, he actually didn't miss his appointment. He still came in with the same line about not letting your frineds wait, so it doesn't relly change much, but I find it nice that this time, he actually has to apologize for being late
Reason everybody recognizes her after a bit is cause she meets everyone when they're born also. She's the first face you'll see when your life starts and the last you'll see when it's done.
At the end of the episode (around 24:06) Roshi asks who are writing these episodes.
This was originally a graphic novel series (and to this point, everything in the episodes is almost straight from the comics) written by Neil Gaiman. Who also the author of American Gods, Coraline, Stardust, Mirrormask, and co-author of Good Omens, among others. So yeah, a hell of an author, although I've always thought Sandman was his best work.
Kind of wish y'all took the time to really watch and absorb the Death part, but I think sometimes y'all use comedy as a coping tool because it gets sad, so I understand that too.
Something really cool that they changed from the comic is that Dream and Hob's most recent meeting actually DID happen in 1989, because Neil Gaiman set the main story in that year and Dream had escaped by that point in the story. Hob and Dream still had their fight so that tension was still there regarding if Dream would show up or not. However, since the Netflix show is set in the modern day, they had to have Dream miss the 1989 meeting and show up later.