@@ivangrela2341 cultists be making suicide pacts, while the big money is in immortality pacts, lets meet again in 100 years, lets see who is really commited
Not just any someone, but Dream and Death... I'm going to start saying the same shit from now on, to see if dream gifts a million dollars every year or death gives me the same deal. 😂
Lol I read so many tales about gods making bets over some random humans who be minding their own business. maybe i should start talking about about my wishes and hope some bored god is listening 🤔
In the comics, none of the other Endless ever refer to or address Death by name. She's always addressed as "Sister" or referred to as "My/our oldest sister".
And a thing about Desire - they specifically go by they/them most of the time. They've been male and female at different times too, as it suits them. Honestly, Sandman was SO far ahead of its time in showing non-binary people in an honest, matter of fact way (even if they're more of an anthropomorphic concept than a person). Desire was genderfluid before most people knew what genderfluid was.
@@RabidDogma Desire was non-binary in the comics indeed but was never referred as they/them, but as she-he or he-she, the specifics of neutral pronouns Gaiman couldn't predict
I teared up when Death said "When the first living thing existed, I was there waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job will be finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave." That was quoted straight out of the comic book I read when I was just 10.
Death has always the best line whatever the fictions. I still remember the line he said in Charmed: " i am not good or evil , i just am, i'm inevitable".
Desire isn't just in a building that looks like themselves. Like Dream has his whole dream world Desire has their own realm as well. And the Desire shaped palace is literally the only thing in it.
Also, since Mason Alexander Park is portraying Desire, the character similarly goes by they/them pronouns, and not he/him like Roshi was saying. Easy mistake to make. (Mason is non-binary and uses they/them pronouns IRL, so it makes sense that this version of Desire is specifically they/them as well.)
I think the mistakes Hob Gadling was referring to was less about not having a family, but more about the lesson of not living in one place for too long of a time (hence why he got suspected of being a witch during his third century) and also referring to his regret of having been part of the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade (he more explicitly admits to regretting having been part of it in the original comic)
In this case I think I do prefer the original comic book text, as a more interesting reflection on the consequences of prolonged life: "Have I learned ought? I've learned from my mistakes. But I've had more more time to commit more mistakes"
I think the point is that Gadling is human so no matter how hard he tries he will always make some mistakes! I also don't think he has went 100s of years without love or a family! Maybe he leaves his family with some wealth or fakes his death before they find out that he does not age!
@@nathansossai it’s meant to be a serious moment. The fact that he used the name Death implies all the niceties he usually has towards Desire are gone. It was used to heavily emphasize the threat
@@Rensune well yes, that’s kind of the point of Dream’s journey in this series. Death has already done that, which she hints at a lot in this episode, but not all of them have reached that epiphany, enlightenment, or however you want to describe it.
I consider this Ep a legit masterpiece. One of the best episodes of TV ever made, any show, any genre. Dead serious. Been looking forward to y’all watching this one for a LONG time now.
I think it's more than that, too. Mentioned in later episodes (spoilers): that the library contains "every book ever written, or that will be written". Time is an odd duck.
That's what made me a fan of the DC's Death as a kid over the Marvel version. DC's version was always kind and had a cheerful personality. Only later when I grew up did I realize just how twisted and evil the Marvel version of Death is. Made me like the DC one even more. She's a true psychopomp fulfilling her purpose.
The thing about the afterlife in the DC/Vertigo universe is that ALL of them exist. The "Sunless Lands" is just another name for the various afterlife planes. The Dreaming is part of the Sunless Lands, too. So yeah, old dude almost certainly went to his version of Heaven, because that's where he would want to go. The idea is, you go where you think you "deserve" to go. So if you're in Hell, you put yourself there.
Supposedly (if you believe the pub's own claims), there's a pub called Ye Olde Fighting Cocks that started in the 700s, was rebuilt in the 1000s, was moved in the 1500s, and then continued to operate until it closed down a couple years ago due to COVID's economic toll.
I'm from Derby and the oldest pub I've ever been in is 'The Trip to Jerusalem' which is supposedly from the 1100's, although the one there now is probably from the 1600's according to Wikipedia. The original was probably in the same spot and would date back to when Nottingham castle was first built in 1067 when the third crusade started. Most likely where Robin of the Hood went for a pint..seriously.
There are 10 Sandman books to adapt, Season 1 only covered the first 2. books. And it only gets better. If Netflix cancels it they’re clowns, it could be the best series ever
something interesting was in the 1389 and 1989 bars, the patrons are talking about similar things: taxes, jobs, and they even make the same “hunting for rabbits again” joke
The same old "the poor are just lazy" biases, too. Which is a derivative of the "just world" fallacy. Too bad we've a personification of such nonsense running so many nations these days. The apocalypse may be complex, but I'm not finding it very original.
This episode was so good. Dream questioning his purpose and being reminded by his sister that they exist to serve humans and guide them, which is crazy to think about as they are essentially "gods". His centuries old friend didn't live driven by purpose, rather he was driven by the desire to experience all of life's pleasure. DOPE
THE best episode of the entire show....2 story with life and death at the center...and purpose...It's just beautiful ! The actress who play Death really nailed her personnality, so different of all version in any media and in a way logical...wath do you really want to see when you die ? A kind word and a friendly face really. Also can't believe they really had the balls to do the baby scene, it hits like a brick ! The second one, when you think about it, Death pretty much created one of the most beautiful friendship ever...I absolutly love the evolution of Hob Gadling !
Neil Gaiman is Executive producer (and a few of the voices). They hired different directors for different episodes. The work involved in directing one hour of a show is huge and Gaiman is doing production and writing, I think adding directing to that would probably kill him.
"These episodes are so well done." Well, the original writter Neil Gaiman is the show runner, he is making sure they keep the text as close to the original graphic novel as possible
Neil Gaiman is the writer of Sandman. He’s heavily involved in the series. Creative control. The show’s had to meet his expectations. Gaiman also wrote the novel American Gods, which was made for TV by Amazon Prime. He co-wrote Good Omens, also adapted into an Amazon series. It’s freaking great. Other TV credits include episodes of Doctor Who, Babylon 5. Lucifer is loosely based on one of his comics too, now that I think about it. Coraline the movie was adapted on his story. Same for Mirror Mask. I think Gaiman also wrote the screenplay for Beowulf. As well as the English dialogue for the adaptation of Princess Mononoke.
Small Correction. American Gods was on Starz. Also Gaiman also wrote the graphic novel Stardust, which he adapted into a prose novel, which was then adapted into a movie of the same name. One of his earlier novels Neverwhere was adapted into a BBC show.
In fact, Lucifer was based on *this* comic. Kind of. The show was loosely based on Mike Carey's run, but Carey's Lucifer is technically the same Lucifer from The Sandman, just in a different situation. So in an alternate universe, Gwendolyn Christie is the one solving crimes in LA 😁
I remember when I first saw that in the comic as a teenager..those panels where she picks up the baby are still seared into my brain. I'm so glad they kept it in this series.
@@GriffinPilgrim Sure, that would change, but I don't see it preventing the whole scene. It's not a big deal at all that the scene wasn't in the show, anyway. It's just something I would have liked to see, but it's certainly not detrimental.
Death has always the best line whatever the fictions. I still remember the line he said in Charmed: " i am not good or evil , i just am, i'm inevitable". Or his line about god in Supernatural: "Life, Death the Chicken, the egg regardless i'll reap him too.. God will die too" And now her line about waiting when the first living was born. Death has always the best lines.
I love how human Gaiman makes Rob Gatling - he makes mistakes sometimes horrific ones depending on the century, but he grows and changes and is honestly trying... he's selfish and cruel and kind but honestly wants to live....kinda like all of us
17:10 UGH I love these three’s reactions to that line. It was also my first time seeing a formerly mortal character not wish for death after experiencing whatever life threw at them, and it was really refreshing and cool. Their reactions just added so much excitement to the reveal and now I can’t help but imagine them as three immortal beings watching humans fumble about throughout existence. Especially after Roshi’s impressed&fascinated look and Sheera’s “he’s intriguing, I’ll give him that”…
"I'm gonna build a building shaped like me and I'm only gonna talk to me because I'm beautiful 💅" lmao 🤣 never realized that truly is a depiction of his conceit
Desire wasn't talking to themself though. They were talking to their twin sister, Despair. As they said: "attend, sweet sibling. I stand in my gallery and hold your sigil." So they clearly were talking to a sibling.
If it were up to her to control the nature of how anything dies, she might also make it as peaceful as possible, but her function only concerns the middle part between dying and going to whatever afterlife may await.
@@mimik6414 Not sure why you think pain drives people away from death, rather than towards it. The genetic imperative keeps us going. Also dopamine. Stick may be easier, but carrot beats it, every time.
Who says it isn't? Especially if some of the more interesting implications of higher physics turn-out true and "time" is just an artefact of human perception.
This is my favorite episode of TV so far this year. And there are a lot of little detail in this episode too. All of Will Shakespeare and Christopher Marlowe's lines are said in iambic pentameter, a style of lyrical poetry they were famous for and the conversation of the bar patrons through the centuries are all the same. They are all discussing politics, impending apocalyptic events, the same or a similar joke. And the dude who plays Hob is Ben Kingsley's son, Ferdinand Kingsley.
This is another of my favorite episodes of this series, seeing how every 100 years the world is changing, it seems spectacular to me, hopefully they will do a second season, this show deserves it
And just imagine what 2089 will hold, and how different it will be from 1989, when only 30-ish years have passed and already our tech is accelerating and massively outstripping the 80s tech. I expect we'll have something like general AI by 2050, if not sooner, so 2089 will be a full sci-fi "living with the computers/robots" world.
He's literally in Dreamland. As he's going through time he's seeing dreams come true. Better beer, liquor, cereal, pizza, cars, television etc... Why go to sleep when you can see everyone's dream and benefit from them. 🤣
Desire actually isn't a "he" or a "she", because Desire can never have just one of anything including gender. they are, after all, whatever you most desire. They're also played by the non-binary actor Mason Alexander Park.
Just for going forward, both the actor and the character of Desire are nonbinary, so they/them pronouns. Glad you guys are loving this amazing series! It's always nice to see someone displayed who doesn't want death when given immortality, because I feel like it just depends on the person who gets immortality.
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The character is genderfluid so he/him and she/her works along with they/them. The actor is indeed nonbinary, so they/them for them.
@ fair, in the comics they are even referred to with it pronouns, but the reactors are likely unaware of this and since we see desire take no differing forms during this season in any way I figure it's probably best to call them by the actor's pronouns.
If you listen to the background conversations at the bar, the people in 1389 are complaining about the same crap as the modern day people in the bar (with differences due to the different eras, of course). A great detail showing that people are people.
Random Friend: What will you do with all that time? Hobs: I’ll find better friends than you. Centuries later, Dream: I heard it’s impolite to keep one’s friends waiting.
The story if Hob in the comic is easily my favorite story ever written. The fact that they adapted it PERFECTLY is too much for me. I cried watching it the first time. Ive cried watching it every time since. This entire episode, from Death and her mission to help people, to Hob seeing his friend again and smiling the most genuine smile... god it just gets me. Absolute perfection.
What i like about this show is that every character feels like they have a lot more story in them. Maybe i'll check the source material after i finish the show. I'm currently in the extra episode. I love the finale and i hope we get another season.
Desire living in a building of themselves is the most Desire thing ever. (and it's LIFTED from the comics book pages) and the actor is non-binary (so is the character) so it's "They" cause Desire holds every gender and pronoun.
The episode was written 30 years ago... I remember buying floppies of The Sandman in the early 90s. The comic where Death is introduced is among one of my favorites of the run (and there are quite a few).
Kinda upset with the reaction... This episode is the best / among the best in the entire season. There is a strong message, Death is the best character ever, there are strong scenes... But they are just cracking jokes all the time, not focused, whereas she said some pretty deep shit... Too bad 😔
Roshi misunderstood completely, the guy hadn't been alive for "hundreds of years", he had been alive for like 30 years at that point, in the beginning when he said "I've decided, I'm not going to die!". So when him and Dream met in 1489, he was his normal human age + 100. So maybe around 130-ish years old. Not "hundreds of years old" at THAT point.
This is honestly one of the best episodes of tv of all time. The whole episode could’ve been just about Dream traveling and talking with Death while she is guiding souls to the afterlife. I mean first the scene with her guiding the old man, letting him say the Shema prayer made me tear up right away, and I’m not even Jewish. But then they show us the story of Hob Gadling and I could NOT take my eyes off the screen for a second. Also in the comic she is white and pale, but I love that they cast a black woman and that it was Kirby Howell-Babtiste, her version of death is so warm and kind and caring. I’ve been on the side that thinks immortality for mortals is a curse, that over time your moral compass would break, you would look at other mortals as just insects, and your own sense of humanity (your soul, spirit, chi, ka, whatever you want to call it) would crumble away into dust. But Hob Gadling is a truly exceptional man for living as long as he had and not become either a power hungry psychopath or just an outright piece of crap. Yes he veered off the path and was involved briefly in the slave trade, but Morpheus managed to show him the error of his ways. Hob is the embodiment of looking at the bright side! And Hob had an effect on Morpheus because after spending so much time with Hob he actually did come to care for him. And in the end Dream finally admitted that he and Hob were friends.
I realized every time I've watched this one or watched someone watch it I start tearing up the moment she appears. I loved her so much in the comics and she does a fantastic job here too. If for some reason Netflix does cancel this you can at least enjoy the comics, they are beautiful. There's even a special release of just her stories collected
One of the subtle things in the Hob meetings arc is how much of the ambient chatter in the pub NEVER changes. Yes, things evolve but humans tell the same jokes and complain about the same stuff…
Desire has no gender, they are classified as non-binary. They are a strikingly beautiful, androgynous figure of gender-fluidity; they can be male, female, both, or neither as the situation warrants.
You have to read the comics!! Some stuff was changed but the series sticks so closely to the original source material. So glad you all are enjoying it.
this was the ep i've been waiting on, i just loved the talk with Dream and Death! i love how Death is portrayed here, unique in a way you hardly see... plus the two side of a coin with both parts of the episode
Ep 6 is by FAR the best episode... However it was also the saddest within Season 1 cause when Death came for the baby I damn near cried... But in the comic the baby actually says "damn that's all I get" and she says "yes"
If they get more seasons, I hope Hob's brief time involved in the slave trade is explored. It's talked about in the comics, and he really took Dream's advice to heart and changed a great deal after. Hobs and Death are still some of my favorite characters because they embrace who they are.
A very beautiful episode, pretty much identical to the graphic novel with some minor exceptions no one cares about bcuz this show is glorious and the woman who portrayed death is very beautiful lol. Also desires design kind of reminds me of HIM from powerpuff girls.
Every other thumbnail: Crying
Roshi's thumbnail: Laughing hysterically
@@Squeekysquid It ain't them without that energy lmao gotta love em
i can already hear lupa's gut laughter through thumbnail
We knew what we signed up for XD
Drug belt 😂
You can either cry or laugh, it's all a reflection on the same thing.
Can you imagine becoming immortal just because someone was ease dropping on your conversation at the right time?
Free immortality, let's goooo
And that dumb fuck roderick burgess doing all that shit for immortality
@@ivangrela2341 cultists be making suicide pacts, while the big money is in immortality pacts, lets meet again in 100 years, lets see who is really commited
Not just any someone, but Dream and Death... I'm going to start saying the same shit from now on, to see if dream gifts a million dollars every year or death gives me the same deal. 😂
Lol I read so many tales about gods making bets over some random humans who be minding their own business. maybe i should start talking about about my wishes and hope some bored god is listening 🤔
In the comics, none of the other Endless ever refer to or address Death by name. She's always addressed as "Sister" or referred to as "My/our oldest sister".
And a thing about Desire - they specifically go by they/them most of the time. They've been male and female at different times too, as it suits them. Honestly, Sandman was SO far ahead of its time in showing non-binary people in an honest, matter of fact way (even if they're more of an anthropomorphic concept than a person). Desire was genderfluid before most people knew what genderfluid was.
What about Didi? Hehe
I think they just did that to just confirm who she was for people who didn’t read the comics
@@RabidDogma Desire was non-binary in the comics indeed but was never referred as they/them, but as she-he or he-she, the specifics of neutral pronouns Gaiman couldn't predict
@@Ba-in9ub I'm saying more that the CURRENT Desire goes by they/them.
This was my favorite episode. Not action packed or anything. Just a simple discussion of life through a human and another Endless.
Mine too.
Same, I love Death so much
Couldn't agree more
Same. This was my favorite episode from S1.
Loved the second half of the episode as much as the first.
fun fact, at the end of the episode Hob is seen grading papers, according to Neil Gaimen Hob became a history teacher.
What a perfect occupation for him to choose lol i love that
omg that makes sense, he can lit say he was alive during some of the biggest world events and how they truly happened first hand.
He completely slanders Will Shakespeare in his class.
@@Infurnace6699 his local history knowledge is A1!
@@Ragdefender Is it technically slander if it's true? Or at least, if it's his honest first-hand perception of the lad
I teared up when Death said "When the first living thing existed, I was there waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job will be finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave." That was quoted straight out of the comic book I read when I was just 10.
Same
Same :)
Death has always the best line whatever the fictions. I still remember the line he said in Charmed: " i am not good or evil , i just am, i'm inevitable".
@@sgcastle8389 true death is always cool
Damn near every scene where the dialogue is straight from the books is fire
I actually found Death's "this close ha?" response really endearing haha kind of like "oh sweety"
Desire isn't just in a building that looks like themselves. Like Dream has his whole dream world Desire has their own realm as well. And the Desire shaped palace is literally the only thing in it.
Which is, of course, SUPER FITTING for Desire. Haha.
And as The Dreaming is Dream, The Threshold is Desire.
@@Ozai75 budhist monks also desire nothing more than their own selves, such ambitious people
Also, since Mason Alexander Park is portraying Desire, the character similarly goes by they/them pronouns, and not he/him like Roshi was saying. Easy mistake to make.
(Mason is non-binary and uses they/them pronouns IRL, so it makes sense that this version of Desire is specifically they/them as well.)
well yes, technically the endless aren’t people and just personification of their duties so all of them can be they/them
I think the mistakes Hob Gadling was referring to was less about not having a family, but more about the lesson of not living in one place for too long of a time (hence why he got suspected of being a witch during his third century) and also referring to his regret of having been part of the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade (he more explicitly admits to regretting having been part of it in the original comic)
In this case I think I do prefer the original comic book text, as a more interesting reflection on the consequences of prolonged life: "Have I learned ought? I've learned from my mistakes. But I've had more more time to commit more mistakes"
I think the point is that Gadling is human so no matter how hard he tries he will always make some mistakes! I also don't think he has went 100s of years without love or a family! Maybe he leaves his family with some wealth or fakes his death before they find out that he does not age!
@@blacprophet1153 oh that too definitely goes without saying
@@blacprophet1153 Judging by the comics he avoids having any more kids but he does have plenty more romantic relationships.
They specifically never call Death by her designation, because she is more than just Death.
Dream literally calls her death in the last episode.
@@nathansossai it’s meant to be a serious moment. The fact that he used the name Death implies all the niceties he usually has towards Desire are gone. It was used to heavily emphasize the threat
All of the Endless are "More" than their names.
@@Rensune well yes, that’s kind of the point of Dream’s journey in this series. Death has already done that, which she hints at a lot in this episode, but not all of them have reached that epiphany, enlightenment, or however you want to describe it.
I consider this Ep a legit masterpiece. One of the best episodes of TV ever made, any show, any genre. Dead serious. Been looking forward to y’all watching this one for a LONG time now.
How they handled this story was what would make or break the series for me, and they nailed it
@@Cs-cp6vo same
YES
"Dead serious" lmao
Literally the only episode I watched deaths portrayal was just that good
Btw if you didn't notice. Dream, literally knows everything about any entity that sleeps. That library they have in the Dreaming are his memories.
I think it's more than that, too. Mentioned in later episodes (spoilers):
that the library contains "every book ever written, or that will be written". Time is an odd duck.
There is a specific seccion for books that where never written, and will never be.
Man the baby one break me
Dude just got free trial of life
In the comic, you can actually hear what the baby is thinking so it's extra sad. "Is that it? Is that all I get?"
@@rampant1apart that is so painful
@@rampant1apart goddamn it man, why did put this little funfact in here, you just made me shed a tear
@@fortunelekoto6704 Oh it gets worse than that. You see the mother’s reaction in the comic as well.
@@irish5662 goddamn man
It's nice to see a version of Death that isn't cliche evil. But it still doesn't stop her job from being sad and depressing.
Ironically it was this version of Death (technically the comic book version) that made me reconsider it as sad and depressing.
Terry Pratchett's Death is also fairly chill. Not as comforting, but definitely not evil.
That's what made me a fan of the DC's Death as a kid over the Marvel version. DC's version was always kind and had a cheerful personality. Only later when I grew up did I realize just how twisted and evil the Marvel version of Death is. Made me like the DC one even more. She's a true psychopomp fulfilling her purpose.
@@Nukerunin I actually don't know much about the Marvel version except for that time she spurned Thanos. What did she do?
I'd say the Death from Supernatural was a pretty good version as well.
Fun fact, the Geoffrey in the bar in 1389 talking about writing "Tavern tales", was Geoffrey Chaucer, the author of "The Canterbury Tales".
Between him and William Shakespeare, that's one hell of a tavern.
And the man with the bust leg that Shakespeare was talking to and admiring was Christopher Marlowe, the playwright
Good catch..
The thing about the afterlife in the DC/Vertigo universe is that ALL of them exist. The "Sunless Lands" is just another name for the various afterlife planes. The Dreaming is part of the Sunless Lands, too. So yeah, old dude almost certainly went to his version of Heaven, because that's where he would want to go. The idea is, you go where you think you "deserve" to go. So if you're in Hell, you put yourself there.
damn, I need to start dreaming of my heaven then
Spoilers! 🙂
The UK has some of the oldest pubs around. They literally have one from the 1200s still up and running.
Supposedly (if you believe the pub's own claims), there's a pub called Ye Olde Fighting Cocks that started in the 700s, was rebuilt in the 1000s, was moved in the 1500s, and then continued to operate until it closed down a couple years ago due to COVID's economic toll.
I'm from Derby and the oldest pub I've ever been in is 'The Trip to Jerusalem' which is supposedly from the 1100's, although the one there now is probably from the 1600's according to Wikipedia. The original was probably in the same spot and would date back to when Nottingham castle was first built in 1067 when the third crusade started. Most likely where Robin of the Hood went for a pint..seriously.
@@IceMetalPunk Wow, I did not know about the one..just looked it up. Sounds like same history as the Jerusalem one.
I died at "Drug belt" 🤣
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LMAO Roshi was like
"There was only one thing in my mind: Vengeance."
"He's just like me fr."
"It wasn't satisfying."
"...or not."
There are 10 Sandman books to adapt, Season 1 only covered the first 2. books. And it only gets better. If Netflix cancels it they’re clowns, it could be the best series ever
you know they spend 1M per episode, right? It's hardly to get a season 2
@@astrayfong you ever seen the budget of some shitty films out there? 1M for 1 hour of quality content is nothing to Netflix
@@astrayfong actually it was 15 million per episode
@@astrayfong Not sure you get how "investment" works.
Making Sandman tv show is very expensive so new subs for Netflix mus watch first sandman if you want season 2
I really loved this episode. One of my favorites of the season honestly. Death real down to Earth and cool for an older sister
and that is why she is fictional
something interesting was in the 1389 and 1989 bars, the patrons are talking about similar things: taxes, jobs, and they even make the same “hunting for rabbits again” joke
"I've seen people, and they don't change. Not in the important things" - Hob Gadling in the original comic, 1889
The same old "the poor are just lazy" biases, too. Which is a derivative of the "just world" fallacy.
Too bad we've a personification of such nonsense running so many nations these days. The apocalypse may be complex, but I'm not finding it very original.
@@neilhenderson5581 So true. The only real difference between a child in 3000 BCE and an adult in modern day is fancier toys.
Sounds like a Death and Taxes joke in there somewhere. :)
"Kidnapping two immortal supernatural beings? Two dudes with knives oughtta do it".
3:10, 5:02 I love it when Lupa laughs at Sheera's jokes. They're both so hilarious
Kirby is a queen. She was so amazing as death❤️
she's super good
She nailed it. Exactly as she should be from the comics.
That YG edit when dream met his friend completely killed me 😂
This episode was so good. Dream questioning his purpose and being reminded by his sister that they exist to serve humans and guide them, which is crazy to think about as they are essentially "gods". His centuries old friend didn't live driven by purpose, rather he was driven by the desire to experience all of life's pleasure. DOPE
I freaking love Desire's strongholds. You wanna know EVERYTHING about the character? Boom, there go in you one shot.
THE best episode of the entire show....2 story with life and death at the center...and purpose...It's just beautiful ! The actress who play Death really nailed her personnality, so different of all version in any media and in a way logical...wath do you really want to see when you die ? A kind word and a friendly face really. Also can't believe they really had the balls to do the baby scene, it hits like a brick ! The second one, when you think about it, Death pretty much created one of the most beautiful friendship ever...I absolutly love the evolution of Hob Gadling !
I'm still laughing at Lupa saying Dream Seasoning 😭😭😭 that's what I'm calling it now.
"Sandman? Who's that? Oh, you mean Dream Seasoning Man?"
“This man over here looking extra beautiful dang.”
😂😂
Fun fact: the comic book artist and creator HIMSELF is the director of this show, that’s why it’s so cool and magical ✨💯🔥
Neil Gaiman is Executive producer (and a few of the voices). They hired different directors for different episodes. The work involved in directing one hour of a show is huge and Gaiman is doing production and writing, I think adding directing to that would probably kill him.
Hahah there's a Reason Niel Gaimans The Sandman is considered one of the greatest Graphic Novel stories ever written.
"These episodes are so well done."
Well, the original writter Neil Gaiman is the show runner, he is making sure they keep the text as close to the original graphic novel as possible
Not sure how y’all managed to find so much humor in this episode. Interesting.
Neil Gaiman is the writer of Sandman. He’s heavily involved in the series. Creative control. The show’s had to meet his expectations.
Gaiman also wrote the novel American Gods, which was made for TV by Amazon Prime. He co-wrote Good Omens, also adapted into an Amazon series. It’s freaking great. Other TV credits include episodes of Doctor Who, Babylon 5. Lucifer is loosely based on one of his comics too, now that I think about it.
Coraline the movie was adapted on his story. Same for Mirror Mask. I think Gaiman also wrote the screenplay for Beowulf. As well as the English dialogue for the adaptation of Princess Mononoke.
Small Correction. American Gods was on Starz.
Also Gaiman also wrote the graphic novel Stardust, which he adapted into a prose novel, which was then adapted into a movie of the same name. One of his earlier novels Neverwhere was adapted into a BBC show.
@@michaelash8552 thank you for the correction. And I did forget Stardust and Neverwhere. Both good stories.
In fact, Lucifer was based on *this* comic. Kind of. The show was loosely based on Mike Carey's run, but Carey's Lucifer is technically the same Lucifer from The Sandman, just in a different situation. So in an alternate universe, Gwendolyn Christie is the one solving crimes in LA 😁
Roshi said "who's writing"
It's pulled straight from the 30yr old vertigo comics by Neil Gaiman
I'm sitting here trying not to cry over a dead baby, and Sheera busts out "drug belt" and just omfg Sheera 😂
I remember when I first saw that in the comic as a teenager..those panels where she picks up the baby are still seared into my brain. I'm so glad they kept it in this series.
Episodes 4, 5 & 6 were all bangers.
I wish the last four episodes were as good as those three.
11 is one of the best, too.
The most beautiful episode and it follows the comics very faithfully.
I kind of wish they kept the part at the comedy club, though. Just imagine your jokes dying on stage, and then you do.
@@0okamino They'd have to change the act; she was cracking jokes about Batman as a real person and the story no longer takes place in the DC Universe.
@@GriffinPilgrim Sure, that would change, but I don't see it preventing the whole scene. It's not a big deal at all that the scene wasn't in the show, anyway. It's just something I would have liked to see, but it's certainly not detrimental.
@@0okamino Oh yeah, not saying you couldn't still have the scene, just pointing out an oddity of adaption.
Kirby nailed the most crucial part of Death: how surpisignly charming and genuine she is.
Death has always the best line whatever the fictions. I still remember the line he said in Charmed: " i am not good or evil , i just am, i'm inevitable".
Or his line about god in Supernatural: "Life, Death the Chicken, the egg regardless i'll reap him too..
God will die too"
And now her line about waiting when the first living was born. Death has always the best lines.
Yoooooooooooo the second one is tufffffff yooooooooooo
I love how human Gaiman makes Rob Gatling - he makes mistakes sometimes horrific ones depending on the century, but he grows and changes and is honestly trying... he's selfish and cruel and kind but honestly wants to live....kinda like all of us
17:10 UGH I love these three’s reactions to that line. It was also my first time seeing a formerly mortal character not wish for death after experiencing whatever life threw at them, and it was really refreshing and cool. Their reactions just added so much excitement to the reveal and now I can’t help but imagine them as three immortal beings watching humans fumble about throughout existence. Especially after Roshi’s impressed&fascinated look and Sheera’s “he’s intriguing, I’ll give him that”…
Who's writing those episodes? My man Neil Gaiman wrote the comic back in the 90's and it's pretty much word for word what the show is.
80's! The next series if they get it was written in the 90's.
He’s was incredibly involved in the production
"I'm gonna build a building shaped like me and I'm only gonna talk to me because I'm beautiful 💅" lmao 🤣 never realized that truly is a depiction of his conceit
Desire wasn't talking to themself though. They were talking to their twin sister, Despair. As they said: "attend, sweet sibling. I stand in my gallery and hold your sigil." So they clearly were talking to a sibling.
@@bookswithike3256 yeah but it was still funny and he really is that conceited lol but yeah I know he talks to Despair and Dream in later episodes
Why cant death always be this peaceful. If it were many people would be willing to happily die.
If it were up to her to control the nature of how anything dies, she might also make it as peaceful as possible, but her function only concerns the middle part between dying and going to whatever afterlife may await.
Omg true , when i was watching this episode i was like if that was really death and that is how we die , i wouldn't have been so scared of it
Then populations would go out quick. That’s probably also why pain exist, to not give up so easily.
@@mimik6414 Not sure why you think pain drives people away from death, rather than towards it.
The genetic imperative keeps us going. Also dopamine. Stick may be easier, but carrot beats it, every time.
Who says it isn't? Especially if some of the more interesting implications of higher physics turn-out true and "time" is just an artefact of human perception.
This was my fav episode. Favorite of any movie, series etc. This was amazing. Well done
This is my favorite episode of TV so far this year. And there are a lot of little detail in this episode too. All of Will Shakespeare and Christopher Marlowe's lines are said in iambic pentameter, a style of lyrical poetry they were famous for and the conversation of the bar patrons through the centuries are all the same. They are all discussing politics, impending apocalyptic events, the same or a similar joke. And the dude who plays Hob is Ben Kingsley's son, Ferdinand Kingsley.
This is another of my favorite episodes of this series, seeing how every 100 years the world is changing, it seems spectacular to me, hopefully they will do a second season, this show deserves it
And just imagine what 2089 will hold, and how different it will be from 1989, when only 30-ish years have passed and already our tech is accelerating and massively outstripping the 80s tech. I expect we'll have something like general AI by 2050, if not sooner, so 2089 will be a full sci-fi "living with the computers/robots" world.
Damn, y'all laughed through the most emotional episode.
Out of 70% shows they reacted, they understood absolutely nothing. Most of the time they're just too quick to judge even before scenes' completion.
He's literally in Dreamland. As he's going through time he's seeing dreams come true. Better beer, liquor, cereal, pizza, cars, television etc... Why go to sleep when you can see everyone's dream and benefit from them. 🤣
I am definitely going to make Cream Stick jokes from now on.
Desire actually isn't a "he" or a "she", because Desire can never have just one of anything including gender. they are, after all, whatever you most desire. They're also played by the non-binary actor Mason Alexander Park.
lame
@@Web497 why is it lame? I can’t think of a better acting and character choice than having an embodiment of desire that isn’t gender-specific.
@@ericstahmer720 That idiot is a bigot, don't even bother
Who knew death could be so beautiful
Just for going forward, both the actor and the character of Desire are nonbinary, so they/them pronouns. Glad you guys are loving this amazing series! It's always nice to see someone displayed who doesn't want death when given immortality, because I feel like it just depends on the person who gets immortality.
The character is genderfluid so he/him and she/her works along with they/them. The actor is indeed nonbinary, so they/them for them.
@ fair, in the comics they are even referred to with it pronouns, but the reactors are likely unaware of this and since we see desire take no differing forms during this season in any way I figure it's probably best to call them by the actor's pronouns.
This episode is now in my top 25 TV episodes, maybe top 15. So many great messages conveyed in the dialogue and story. Tears every time.
If you listen to the background conversations at the bar, the people in 1389 are complaining about the same crap as the modern day people in the bar (with differences due to the different eras, of course). A great detail showing that people are people.
Random Friend: What will you do with all that time?
Hobs: I’ll find better friends than you.
Centuries later, Dream: I heard it’s impolite to keep one’s friends waiting.
The story if Hob in the comic is easily my favorite story ever written. The fact that they adapted it PERFECTLY is too much for me. I cried watching it the first time. Ive cried watching it every time since. This entire episode, from Death and her mission to help people, to Hob seeing his friend again and smiling the most genuine smile... god it just gets me. Absolute perfection.
Death is THE BADDEST shawty on this show HANDS DOWN!!! She so fine!!😭🤤
Bro I have waiting for this episode!!!
"That was funny."
Did you guts actually take in ANYTHING of this episode?
23:11 This reunion was touching but this edit really had me in my feelings.
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This episode was my favorite it made me cry happy tears when they finally got to each other again
What i like about this show is that every character feels like they have a lot more story in them. Maybe i'll check the source material after i finish the show. I'm currently in the extra episode. I love the finale and i hope we get another season.
Dude that baby made me cry for the whole, I would be beyond sad if I left the room and I come back and it’s dead
sids is real bro 😔
First time I watched this episode I teared up, now watching this reaction I almost choked laughing at "drug belt"
Desire living in a building of themselves is the most Desire thing ever. (and it's LIFTED from the comics book pages) and the actor is non-binary (so is the character) so it's "They" cause Desire holds every gender and pronoun.
The episode was written 30 years ago... I remember buying floppies of The Sandman in the early 90s. The comic where Death is introduced is among one of my favorites of the run (and there are quite a few).
Such sad moments at the Death scenes and yet these guys are laughing? What a joke.
I got chills at certain moments. One of my favorite episodes of TV.
9:20 drug belt! I almost died laughing at that
This is literally the best episode of the season ‼️
Kinda upset with the reaction... This episode is the best / among the best in the entire season. There is a strong message, Death is the best character ever, there are strong scenes... But they are just cracking jokes all the time, not focused, whereas she said some pretty deep shit... Too bad 😔
Oh wow, the observation about building the bar is one that never occurred to me, superb. :)
Roshi misunderstood completely, the guy hadn't been alive for "hundreds of years", he had been alive for like 30 years at that point, in the beginning when he said "I've decided, I'm not going to die!". So when him and Dream met in 1489, he was his normal human age + 100. So maybe around 130-ish years old. Not "hundreds of years old" at THAT point.
If this song was in the TV show ,it will have become a legendary 23:08 scene 😂😂😂,genius editing
This is honestly one of the best episodes of tv of all time. The whole episode could’ve been just about Dream traveling and talking with Death while she is guiding souls to the afterlife. I mean first the scene with her guiding the old man, letting him say the Shema prayer made me tear up right away, and I’m not even Jewish. But then they show us the story of Hob Gadling and I could NOT take my eyes off the screen for a second. Also in the comic she is white and pale, but I love that they cast a black woman and that it was Kirby Howell-Babtiste, her version of death is so warm and kind and caring.
I’ve been on the side that thinks immortality for mortals is a curse, that over time your moral compass would break, you would look at other mortals as just insects, and your own sense of humanity (your soul, spirit, chi, ka, whatever you want to call it) would crumble away into dust. But Hob Gadling is a truly exceptional man for living as long as he had and not become either a power hungry psychopath or just an outright piece of crap. Yes he veered off the path and was involved briefly in the slave trade, but Morpheus managed to show him the error of his ways. Hob is the embodiment of looking at the bright side! And Hob had an effect on Morpheus because after spending so much time with Hob he actually did come to care for him. And in the end Dream finally admitted that he and Hob were friends.
morality is made up anyway.
@@Web497 okay psychopath.
They both seem like boyfriends..maybe Hob and drama had a fling. Lol
@@xaldinfash8252 ?
9:28, "pass me my drug belt"😂😂😂
Can’t lie, after he smirked to his friend in the new bar, the beat fucking killed me XD
I realized every time I've watched this one or watched someone watch it I start tearing up the moment she appears. I loved her so much in the comics and she does a fantastic job here too. If for some reason Netflix does cancel this you can at least enjoy the comics, they are beautiful. There's even a special release of just her stories collected
In her introduction we get the chairs on the table quote and a variation on her teasing Franklin about how he died and I've loved her ever since
One of the subtle things in the Hob meetings arc is how much of the ambient chatter in the pub NEVER changes. Yes, things evolve but humans tell the same jokes and complain about the same stuff…
The drug belt made me wheez in middle being emotional 🤣🤣🤣
Desire has no gender, they are classified as non-binary. They are a strikingly beautiful, androgynous figure of gender-fluidity; they can be male, female, both, or neither as the situation warrants.
This is supposed to be a sad episode, and with the jokes you guys are missing the essence of it .
This was my favorite episode of the series. The part with death was amazing, and then Hob was really intriguing and a very satisfying finale.
Listen. That 'Man's Not Hot' flashback hit me like a slippery fish.
You have to read the comics!! Some stuff was changed but the series sticks so closely to the original source material. So glad you all are enjoying it.
this was the ep i've been waiting on, i just loved the talk with Dream and Death! i love how Death is portrayed here, unique in a way you hardly see... plus the two side of a coin with both parts of the episode
Thank you I needed that. "drug belt" 😂
Damn. Sheera bodied Roshi with that drug belt line. LOL 9:43. Look at the veins bussin out my mans forehead bruh🤣🤣
Ep 6 is by FAR the best episode... However it was also the saddest within Season 1 cause when Death came for the baby I damn near cried... But in the comic the baby actually says "damn that's all I get" and she says "yes"
i said “and neither will you” at the same time as rosh, bro i fucking hollered 😭😭
ahh yes, the best episode has arrived
that thing about seeing a roach, yeah. she'll be a roach coming up to a roach like "yeah its me"
Sand Circulating A/C Unit..
A Drug Belt...
Bruh, Sheera was killing me 🤣
If they get more seasons, I hope Hob's brief time involved in the slave trade is explored. It's talked about in the comics, and he really took Dream's advice to heart and changed a great deal after.
Hobs and Death are still some of my favorite characters because they embrace who they are.
A very beautiful episode, pretty much identical to the graphic novel with some minor exceptions no one cares about bcuz this show is glorious and the woman who portrayed death is very beautiful lol. Also desires design kind of reminds me of HIM from powerpuff girls.
HIM was so creepy
We've got pubs FAR older than a few hundred years. My exs family lived in a 400 year old house!