Yeah, I was originally a bit let down that they missed Dream’s bit of joyousness at the very end of Sound of Her Wings but the second half of the episode fills that gap quite nicely.
Here's a fun fact that everyone missed. In the 1989 scene, a guy behind Hobb tells the same rabbit joke as the one in the 1389 scene. Hobb hears it and giggles before the guy finishes the joke as Hobb has already known that joke for so long. Writing touches like these are what make a great episode even greater.
@@mar__k The people in the tavern/bar also talk about the same topics in their first and last meeting there. Always loved that about the story in the comics and I'm very happy they included that. So much change across the centuries but people are still people. In the good and the bad
my son passed away 3 hours after birth due to under developed lungs and the way they portrayed the passing of the infant was absolutely beautifu, touching and for me...healing
@@jx1659 thank you for that, sincerely. I used to be a pro adoption first then pro-life then pro-choice until that day. My entire Outlook changed that moment and it's always for a choice from here on
This was a very powerful episode. I’m very fortunate to have two amazing children. That infant scene really got me. Death one day will get us all that’s just a fact of life but when it happens to a child it’s very emotional.
I loved that Death doesnt introduce herself to the souls, and they initiqlly have no idea who she is. But she smiles and then lets their realization sink in. It is both so sad and sweet.
Considering their memories seem to be intact but slightly distorted due to suddenly being out of body, some part of them likely 'puts it together' that they just died and didn't even know it. It makes dying seem so peaceful, in a way. One man died of some respiratory illness, another drowned, and one was hit by a car, but none of them knew they were dead until they looked her in the eyes, saw the sympathy and the unspoken apology, and they just... knew.
Well, this also has to do with lore from the comics, because apparently, before every soul is born, it gets to see Death for just a moment, so it's also a moment of recognition when they see her. Maybe not consciously, but something deep down in them knows "I've seen this face before", leading to the realization of what she's there to do.
Here's a fun fact that everyone missed in this episode. In the 1989 scene, a guy behind Hobb tells the same rabbit joke as the one in the 1389 scene. Hobb hears it and giggles before the guy finishes the joke as Hobb has already known that joke for so long. Writing touches like these are what make a great episode even greater.
This is one great thing about the comic that the filmed version doesn't quite nail - in that issue, we're introduced to each new century by the conversation in the tavern. And you get to see how, through the centuries, people talk about the same things, tell the same jokes, share the same stories, over and over again, just in slightly new ways. It's kind of a microcosm of the entire run of Sandman itself.
Bruh "everyone" really ? Reactors may miss stuff cuz they have to talk and show their emotions but believe me not a single person who watched that on their own at home missed stuff that obvious.
@@МихаилРадулов-й4т Read my comment, and realize exactly what im talking about first. Then tell me if you haven't missed (Hob's giggle and realization).
Hob has always been one of my favorite characters in comics, and this actor's delivery, "I have hated every second of the last 80 years... I have so much to live for," really speaks to me.
I love the change in Dream’s expression from 1589 to 1689. He’s clearly bothered by Hob’s success, and he feels like it’s thrown off his easy bet that Hob would want to die at this point. But then, at his lowest point, when he still chooses to live, it’s like Morpheus recognises there’s something far more interesting about him then he first anticipated.
As a hospice worker, I am so shocked at how many people are surprised to see Death portrayed as kind and compassionate. It breaks my heart how many people perceive death as something sinister. I'm so grateful to Neil for giving us this beautiful representation ❤ I loved your reaction! Thanks for sharing with us 😊
@@Squeekysquid I personally enjoyed Supernatural's portrayal of Death. Detached, proud, cold, analytical, deliberate... but I will say this was a superb portrayal as well. She did so much with so little screen time.
Bless you. My mother was in hospice care in her final days on Earth, and I was so thankful for their presence. with that experiences, and others that I have been party to, I have grown to believe that hospice workers are absolute heroes who bring so much of the spirit of this Death to those whose lives are ending and to their families. I marvel at the ability to remain so compassionate and so kind in the face of constant loss, but please do know that your calling is truly appreciated.
I liked how they highlighted everyone's different reactions to Death. We saw fear, worry, acceptance, regret, and even relief. It was EXTREMELY moving.
"I'm really glad it didn't cut back to the mom." I remember this scene from the comics, the mom actually screams "NO!" and is shown crying over the crib. That has been seared in my mind for years, and that scene really got my tears going.
I said this on a different video but this episode really touched me. As a Paramedic (EMT) you can have days where you feel like you are just seeing nothing but death or its following you up close and personal Even though you are in a group and doing everything correctly you can feel very alone, the thought now of not being alone because you are holding their hand and they are holding yours is something I will forever carry with me and it gives me unimaginable comfort as odd as it sounds.
"The thought of not being alone because you are holding their hand and they are holding yours is something I will forever carry with me", damn are you sure you weren't a writer or a poet in your past life, because that was beautiful.
Paramedics don't get the respect y'all deserve. I was having a stroke as a young adult and this one paramedic was attune to my symptoms and got me transported to the proper hospital. He helped me get dressed even though I was paralyzed on my right side. I was incontinent in front of him and he didn't bat an eye. He fed my cat before we left. Got 2 IVs in me in a moving ambulance. He saved my life. Thank you for all you do, I know it is one of the most difficult and unappreciated jobs in the world.
@@Flufferz626 I think most paramedics feel that it is our honour to be with you when you most need someone. but you said rightly most of the job is actually being present with a patient in the moment and reading the signs.
@Fury-Ninja: How compassionate you are!...I love this episode for the same reasons: I found the way the 2 stories worked in tandem - the man who was going to live forever, & the gentle interaction between those whose time has come & the Angel of Death - overwhelmingly beautiful: Thank you for your comment: it’s always good to read something that sets up a positive train of thought! From Brighton 🌈 UK, take care & be well! 🙏🏻🌹🙏🏽
@@dark3rthanshadows Coincidence that the comic's feeling is so attuned to Netflix's obsession with over-compensating political themes. First six episodes were great. Last handful were appalling.
@@Gafafsg That response doesn't make sense. I clearly said the first six episodes were enjoyable. That's the problem with idiots with extreme views on either side. You never open your ears to middle ground.
100% the contrast of Death's purpose and heavy subject matter playing out on screen with the light, almost airy quality of the score really elevates this episode. It may be one of the singularly best TV episodes I've witnessed.
I absolutely went to pieces on one particular scene of this episode. I was calling out, crying at how unfair it was. And yet unable to do anything but accept what I was watching. It was so powerful.
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@@sarahlouise7991 it was the baby for me. I was gutted
An episode of television with Hob Gadling from the comic is something that I thought would never happen, and I never realized that I wanted it so much until I saw it. I actually cried when I realized that the entire rest of the episode was the Hob Gadling story. It hit me SO HARD to see it so well done in this medium. And combining that with the whole segment with Death, which was so moving and special in its own way...this might be my actual favorite episode of a show in a very long time.
I really liked the contrast between the two halves of this episode. I'm pretty sure they are adaptations of two different issues, so it was deliberate. Nice. The first half was about accepting the inevitability of death, while the second was about completely rejecting it. Not just physically, but also philosophically. Death doesn't just suggest that dying is inevitable, but also that it is natural and necessary for the human psyche. Hob on the other hand rejects both the physical act of dying and Death's philosophy. "Are you crazy? [...] There's everything to live for."
They are two issues. 13 (Men of Good Fortune) is the second half, 17 (The Sound of her Wings) is the first half. Rob Gadling appears later on too which I think caused confusion.
Absolutely adore Kirby Howell-Baptiste as Death! It was one of those casting choices that immediately flooded my brain with serotonin: I’ve watched her in everything I could since I first saw her work! She’s inherently a warm, positive actor who always seems empathetic - reminds me a lot of a younger Olivia Coleman & Sophie Okonedo in that way. (And Sophie Okonedo was my dream casting for Death back in the ‘90s!) Love your reactions! P.S., You HAVE to react to Good Omens - it is amazing!
@@jeringatai3156 She has a bit in "Barry" season 2, where her character Sasha, who is British and an actress, discusses fake accents with Barry (Bill Hader) and says she would "never play an Australian", maybe it's a reference to that? Because that would be funny
@@MrChiddler No way--I had no idea it was the same actress! I felt her performance was one of the weakest in The Good Place, but she was one of my top 3 favorite things about Sandman. What a difference.
@@jeringatai3156 I’ve played an Australian exactly once in my career, & it was truly one of the two hardest accents I have ever had to do. (Especially because I was onstage opposite someone who was playing a Bostonian, which sits a little too close in my brain to the region of Australia I was focused on) I was looking past that technical element of her performance in The Good Place because, if you notice, the other main ‘Australiaian’ character Henry (played by another Brit, Dominic Burgess) also has a really thick, comedic accent that didn’t seem to be going for realistic. It was as if they were aiming more for a panto feel for those accents. She was able to make we want her and Chidi to stay together whilst also loving Eleanor & Chidi. She was humorously benevolent yet maintained her core self. (Her era in the Good Place itself was hysterically real to me, but then I’ve always argued that if there is an afterlife I’d spend a great deal of time assuming that I was in the middle of a psychotic break, so I commiserated with her ‘testing her dying dream’ hypothesis.) Can’t wait to see where her career goes from here
All these people who freaked out at the casting of Death because she wasn't a white goth girl are so wrong. Kirby Howell-Baptiste absolutely nails the essence of Neil Gaiman's Death brilliantly. Absolutely perfect casting in my humble opinion.
Honestly, I was a little put off at first when i saw a clip of her on youtube, but after giving it a chance and watching her first visit, she instantly captured my heart and I couldn't imagine anyone else playing death live action, it feels like she really gets the character. It's one thing to just have the dialogue backing you up, but she really delivers it like you would imagine it from just reading
Uh honestly in the comics I was always put off that Death was a white woman wearing an Ankh 🥴 like that symbol is so African and important to the Black culture that I was very pleased when they cast a Black woman to play Death because I think it would have been *very* disrespectful otherwise
I didnt like it, i wanted to see a deatchcore post punk style kinda girl like in the comics, this version of death looks like a regular black girl with a necklace
@@LadyScaper I wonder why they chose to go away from that then. The actress was so very good and I'm sure the fans of the comics would have loved that nod to the comics.
@@LadyScaper Yeah, I looked her up and was honestly a bit confused as to why they did that too. I miss the eyeliner too but in the comics she got gothier as it went so maybe they'll do it more as it goes on.
@@Saphthings Neil Gaiman pointed out that Death doesn't have the Eye of Horus eyeliner in the 'Sound of Her Wings' - it only turns up at the start of Season of Mists.
Love, love, LOVE your take on all creators having a “relationship” with Dream. As someone who loves stories and writing, I think that’s why I absolutely adore Dream’s character. He’s a creator and storyteller and is the “muse” for all other storytellers.
Dream's bargain with Shakespeare is not as bad as some people assume. He just sent him dreams that would inspire him, and he still wrote the plays himself. What Dream asked in return should be made clear in later seasons if the show is renewed.
“Think but this, and all is mended, / That you have but slumbered here / While these visions did appear. / And this weak and idle theme, / No more yielding but a Dream”
while everybody noticed shakespeare, i don't think any reacter recognized that in 1389, dream crossed paths with geoffrey chaucer, the poet responsible for the canterbury tales (arguably the predecessor to shakespeare).
Well . twin peaks season 3 episode 8 should have won an Emmy as well. It was as perfect as this one. It won nothing at all. The Emmys aren't t what they used to be. As many other Awards.
The baby scene was well done. Fr what I remember the baby ask Death "is this all I get" "thats not fair". So Im glad Death still had the conversation despite not being able to read the text from the baby.
Death is my favorite character from the Sandman comics and one of my favorites in all of comics. I read the issues as they came out (yes, I'm old) and still have issue #8, the first appearance of Death. Meeting this character made me not fear death because I imagine I'll meet her when my time comes.
I love that they took two of the best single issues of the comic and combined them so fluidly. Everyone complaining about this death can fuck off into the sun. I love the detail of you chuckling at the moments from the comic showing up. Like I literally quoted moments as they happened, I loved it so fucking much.
We don't know the exact point that Harry dies, but his cough coincides with the sound of Death opening the door, which implies that it's then. And yet when we see him standing next to his body, the violin is still where he put it after greeting her. Either she showed up early enough that he could set it down, or she let him doing so after death apply in the physical world - either way, she didn't just let it be fallen onto the floor - it's a lovely little but of thoughfulness from her.
Death talking to the infant kills me. My interpretation was that while the babbling was never given subtitles, Death understood the baby and we can infer what the baby was trying to say. Did you all get that impression while watching that scene?
Yeah, she is answering questions that the baby actually says in the comic. I don’t think her responses make sense except as to specific comments the baby said
The episode was crafted with magic because it was so well done and beautifully delivered. The portrayal of Death was so well done and had the perfect actress to play Death. The relationship between Dream and Death was wonderfully executed. The interplay between Hob and Dream was well-rounded and rich. And yes, I would love a Good Omen's reaction. I get some of the same vibes watching The Sandman as I did watching GO.
It's SO funny to me that, when naming the Endless, the one you couldn't remember was Destruction. For, you know, reasons. That we won't mention here, because spoilers.
This is one of my favorite episodes so far, death is so warm, compassionate, and caring it's a beautiful interpretation of death. And then to see dream and hobs relationship develop over the centuries is a beautiful thing to see, dream getting mad and leaving, getting captured and hob thinking he was abandoned, then for dream to find hob and apologize and call him friend was so sweet. Hob buying real-estate and keeping the "tavern" going so dream could find him was amazing, it shows how much his friendship with dream means to hob
Everything about this ep was spot on. Casting was perfect and pairing the two stories was brilliant. I cried along with you guys. It’s crazy how something can be horrible and beautiful at the same time. And yes, good omens would be great. Turn about is fair play. 😉
I find the casting of Death debatable. The actress doesn't quite capture the whimsy of Death in the comics, the pigeon scene was pulled from the comics but they cut half of it because I honestly don't think she could pull it off. She captured the kindness, wisdom and sadness easily, but she doesn't capture the goofy liveliness of Death
@@Neutral_Tired ummm obviously not when you compare it to the comics but she literally bodied the adaptation of death being something so sad but beautiful at the same time she executed extremely well
Good Omens is great! Highly recommend it. Neil Gaiman is a great writer, and he cowrote Good Omens with Terry Pratchett, who is maybe my favorite author of all time.
Without a doubt the best episode of the series thus far. The vignette of all her different ‘appointments’ was achingly beautiful and tragic. The actress is outstanding.
Dream meeting with Hob at the end is just so damned wholesome. No matter how many times I see it I just sit here with a stupid grin and tears in my eyes. This show... Incidentally, the comic makes it clearer that the effect of 24/7 is indeed far reaching. Not everyone, but worldwide.
When the immortal shows up in 1989, the song playing is by a band called "Fine Young Cannibals". Their lead singer was Roland Gift. Roland played Xavier St. Cloud in the TV series "Highlander" as an immortal bad guy. I don't know if the similarity of this second half episode to Highlander inspired that music choice or it was just a happy accident.
Death, someone who cares. That was the concept and they hit the marks like a bomb. The Hob storyline is one of my favorites, and how it continues and how Hob pops up later on with the same verve for life. Its so good. There is going to be a lot of award talk about this episode and this series later... so much done well, so much that is ... how did they pull that off? Joanna is the current Constantine, Johanna is the ancestor.
As someone who read The Sandman graphic novels, This episode was my favorite by far. It was taken straight out of the book and was so perfectly portrayed by the actors. Definitely gave me feels when he approached Hob at the end. Well Done 👏
Something i found interesting as someone working in healthcare is how incredibly similar Deaths attitude is to so many other healthcare workers, how the secondary trauma becomes such a constant pressure that you wanna just quit. We do it for the money mostly, but we do care and thats the shit that cuts deepest, but we ARE here for them, the patient. What we want is secondary to what they need.
i loved this episode, i was a mess of tears with death and fell for her all over again, and my heart was warmed by hob and dream. it's honestly perfectly hilarious that you forgot destruction, comics considered.
Something i just learned; Originally Gaiman got 8 issues greenlit and if the series would continue or not depended on the sales, for a while it seemed like they wouldn't make it so Neil wrote issue 8 knowing it could be the end of the entire series and that issue was the Death one. Makes a lot of sense with how touching the issue is The way they connected the two issues of the comic into one episode its incredible, we start with the acceptance of death and we ended with total negation of it, absolutely beatiful episode
This episode and the quote about dreams in the previous one just remind me so much of Death in Discworld. It really shows that Terry Pratchett and Neil were good friends. Here is one of his most iconic scenes: “All right," said Susan. "I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need... fantasies to make life bearable." REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE. "Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little-" YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES. "So we can believe the big ones?" YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING. "They're not the same at all!" YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET-Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED. "Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point-" MY POINT EXACTLY. ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather BTW. The Hogfather is basically Santa Claus and the premise of the book is that he is missing and Death takes his place so that people don't lose faith in him.
I think Gaiman's version of Death may actually precede Pratchett's, but I may be misremembering the dates of the Discworld books. I always loved how Pratchett was essentially the fantasy version of Douglas Adams, but way more prolific.
@@RabidDogma Mort was released in 1987 and that was not the first appearance of Death, just the first book to focus on him. Sandman was released in 1989, which is close enough that they might have worked on their characters together, because that is the sort of thing they did.
@@squngy0 Oh, that's a good point then. Honestly, I have no idea who Gaiman was collaborating with at that point though I think he was still in England at that point.
The empty one is Destruction and the mirror is for Desire’s own symbol. Their symbol is a heart but I like the choice of the mirror so they can look at themself. (I haven’t read the comic so I don’t know if that was always there or not).
When that clip dropped of dream and death visiting harry a lot of "comic readers" complained that kirby howell-baptiste wasn't peppy enough for death. If you read the actual fucking comic, when death is actually in a room with a dying human being taking a soul, sure she is kind and gracious, but she is also serious and respectful which is exactly the performance in this show.
@@justarandomveryintelligent8934 She's pretty peppy in the Norton story too, but knowing Norton it's because he's also kooky and peppy 😅 a kindred spirit
It’s hilarious watching you guys laugh but for different reasons. One cause it’s more of a “ah I see what they did there” or “ah I see how they changed that or what’s coming” and the other is just a new experience.
One of the great portrayals of Death. The other being, to my mind, Terry Pratchett's portrayal of Death in the Discworld (particularly as portrayed in Hogfather).
I'm so sorry to hear that. I can't imagine that experience, but I hope you find peace with it, and are able to move forward remembering the best of him.
I swear that baby part hits so hard. But the drug user hits hard too, you can see a kind of my suffering is over in her eyes. This episode was just to good.
Book : Destiny Ankh : Death Mask : Dream The missing Symbol : Destruction (The Prodigal) Heart : Desire Hook : Despair Swirl of colors : Delirium (Once known as Delight - symbol of Delight is a Flower) The symbols go from oldest to youngest of the siblings.
That part of the episode, of Death making the visits, was the one that I cried the most, I was really touched. And I cried again here watching with you
Somehow there is still so much hate about the casting of death….the common excuse that “it isn’t about race, she isn’t goth enough.” I think we all know the real reason people don’t like the casting of death. The usual
My reason was that she was absolutely fucking awful in the Good Place. She was great in this though so I am over it. Nothing to do with race. Just the worst Australian accent ever.
She was simply gorgeous - so gentle, empathetic...& beautiful! I’m not familiar with the comics, but I might have similar problems with the filming of a book that I love (The Goldfinch, for example) I find this series so beguiling, that I ‘ration’ the episodes (delayed gratification!), but I know that I’ll want to watch this particular episode again,& even again... 🙏🏻💔🙏🏽
You're so wise with your ability to see into the heart of others. And your praising of an actress of color really does just show your a better person than most people. Just like there are some people who hate the change for race issues, there are some who laud the character because of race issues. Most people I've spoken with have a problem with the change is because Death is literally the most iconic character in Sandman, far more people recognize Death than recognize Dream, and she probably has a bigger fan base amongst casual comic readers. So deciding to change it was always risky. And this just wasn't amazing. The actress was fine. That's it. People are acting like it was some transformative performance, it wasn't. It was the same character she played in The Good Place, and Veronica Mars and it's not much removed from her role in Barry (excepting the comedy aspect). Again, it was fine, not bad but not great either. She would have been right at home playing a reaper in Dead Like Me. She's basically playing a standard Reaper from Supernatural. And the costuming / character design is just lazy. At least when they decided to redesign Desire, they actually put some work into it.
I first saw the actress who plays Death when she was a character in “The Good Place”. I never would have pictured her in this role but she- dare I say- killed it.
I really thought I was going to be fine this episode, but then one of the deaths reminded me of a friend who died from a relapse and really needed a friendly face, and suddenly I was crying
These are two of my favorite issues from the series, and stapling them together like this was absolutely _perfect._ Easily the best episode of TV i've seen in at least a year. After watching it I went back and reread them for the first time in ages, and what surprised me was how the show did both of them _better._ I went into it just hoping the show measured up to the comic version at all, but in both cases it ended up being a straight upgrade. The shift in the timeline made Morpheus and Hob's last scene 1000% mire effective imo, with him missing their last meeting.
This episode was just so ... beautiful, heartbreaking and to some point, life affirming. I really hope to see her in more episodes and maybe even her own series.
I watched the first half slowly, partly because I was almost dreading the diner episode (which turned out to be a bit toned down from the comic). But once I got to this one I just kept going all day until the end and I wish I hadn't. I really wish they'd released an episode a week instead of putting the whole thing out at once, my self control is only so strong. As you said, it's nice to be able to talk about it for awhile, and this is definitely the kind of show that really benefits from having some time to digest what happened before you move on to the next episode. Kirby Baptiste-Howell was fantastic as Death, she hit just the right note. I don't understand how everyone who watches it doesn't cry through that entire story, and then again at the end. Perfect episode.
03:15 I too guessed she was Destiny, but after she said "you'll see me again", I changed my mind. lol. I love this episode so much! I cried happy tears when Dream has finally unlocked a mortal friend!
First time I thought seriously about death was after read Sandman, in 1992. Since then Dream's sentence is part of my life: "To die is so natural as born..."
Just a Masterpiece of Comic-Books/Graphic Novels/Books, and a Masterpiece of an adaptation! Never thought i would actually be able to see it on screen, so well made, before i eventually die! So good! Ty DC/Vertigo for being able to grow-up with you and your stories/books!
I like the reactors different styles claroos is at the 7:55 mark like..oh no..are they going to...they wouldn't.. while after the nerdy guy is just staring watching, not looking to see her reaction, just engrossed in the story. then at 7:58 the little side glance at him by her to be like 'hey are they doing what i think they're doing?' then at 8:05 and he starts crying and her eyes get even wider because *he* **knows** and she doesn't. ah *chef's kiss*
The issue with Hob Gadling, Men of Good Fortune, came out in 1989. You can tell because all the years came from starting with that and subtracting 100 all the way back to 1389, thus making the final meeting the present day. The Shakespeare thing was a piece of good luck. Gaiman said in an interview that he examined where Shakespeare would have been in his career in 1589, and found all he had written until then was unreadable. Which gave him the idea to make Dream be the inspiration for Shakespeare's famous plays.
Though this episode wasn't "flashy" or "action packed", and me not being familiar with the comics at all, i consider it to be my favorite episode. Was just beautifully done.
This episode had me crying when I 1st watched it and I'm crying now again while I'm watching it with you guys. It's just so freaking wholesome. It really hits in the feels. 🥲
I love what you said about "creatives have a relationship with Dream" bit. and I completely agree with every word. as many people said, the Sandman is a story about stories rather than people.
Your reactions are great, I really appreciate the talk at the end. And this is such a moody, contemplative, philosophical show, the kind that most of the time just doesn’t get made.
Nerdy I agree with you ..Sandman delves into our humanity and this show is so well done on every level !! I cant believe how well they have interpreted this adaption.. Tom Sturridge as Dream is PERFECT for this role !! All the casting
Book = Destiny Mask = Dream Hook = Despair Illusion color paint ball thingy= Delirium Ankh = Death Heart = Desire (in this scene its the one next to Despair) Empty case = Destruction And if you look closely, they're ordered by age. Destiny is the oldest, then comes Death, then Dream, then Destruction, Desire and Despair are twins but desire was born first, and Delirium (which was Euphoria / Joy before) is the youngest !
15:39 Nerdy: [Excited ham-boning] That makes sense. Claroos, bewildered: DOES IT?! This is my first video of yours I’ve seen, and that moment convinced me to subscribe
when she asked at 3:20 if we are going to see Johanna's mission, my first thought was "hopefully"... You're doing great work, thanks for that. Loving your channel, greetings from Mexico!!!!!
In the comic with the Death story (issue 8), at the end Dream just says he relearned a lesson he had forgotten but it's not spelled out what the lesson is. I feel like that's made so much more clearer and impactful in the screen adaption. We get some explanation for Death ('this is my job, I hated it for a while, but eventually realized I'm doing it for the humans as they need a kind face to hold onto as they go'). Then we get the Hob story. The conclusion is Dream realizes he had been making it all about himself, but he was made by and for the humans, not the other way around. His job is to serve them. He sees that, and he sees Hob's love for the human life, also making him realize as insignificant as one life is to him as an Endless, to a human individual it is ever-rich and ever-promising. By the end, he stops looking so disdainful, accepting his place and duty, and also accepting that a human can be worthy of his friendship.
14:30 I don't think the clothes would be expensive for the production. There are stock items to rent for this. And the Tavern is probably also from previous productions.
We open with Dream sitting alone, moping, and feeding the pigeons, we close with Dream sitting with a friend sharing a drink. Beautiful
This and the last episode were absolutely incredible
Yeah, I was originally a bit let down that they missed Dream’s bit of joyousness at the very end of Sound of Her Wings but the second half of the episode fills that gap quite nicely.
Here's a fun fact that everyone missed. In the 1989 scene, a guy behind Hobb tells the same rabbit joke as the one in the 1389 scene. Hobb hears it and giggles before the guy finishes the joke as Hobb has already known that joke for so long. Writing touches like these are what make a great episode even greater.
@@mar__k The people in the tavern/bar also talk about the same topics in their first and last meeting there. Always loved that about the story in the comics and I'm very happy they included that. So much change across the centuries but people are still people. In the good and the bad
It's another moment in this adaptation which really surprised me by improving the source.
my son passed away 3 hours after birth due to under developed lungs and the way they portrayed the passing of the infant was absolutely beautifu, touching and for me...healing
I am so sorry for your loss
@@jx1659 thank you for that, sincerely. I used to be a pro adoption first then pro-life then pro-choice until that day. My entire Outlook changed that moment and it's always for a choice from here on
I'm so sorry!! I'm glad it brought you some comfort.
Te mando un gran abrazo, cariño.
This was a very powerful episode. I’m very fortunate to have two amazing children. That infant scene really got me. Death one day will get us all that’s just a fact of life but when it happens to a child it’s very emotional.
I loved that Death doesnt introduce herself to the souls, and they initiqlly have no idea who she is. But she smiles and then lets their realization sink in. It is both so sad and sweet.
Considering their memories seem to be intact but slightly distorted due to suddenly being out of body, some part of them likely 'puts it together' that they just died and didn't even know it.
It makes dying seem so peaceful, in a way. One man died of some respiratory illness, another drowned, and one was hit by a car, but none of them knew they were dead until they looked her in the eyes, saw the sympathy and the unspoken apology, and they just... knew.
Well, this also has to do with lore from the comics, because apparently, before every soul is born, it gets to see Death for just a moment, so it's also a moment of recognition when they see her. Maybe not consciously, but something deep down in them knows "I've seen this face before", leading to the realization of what she's there to do.
“I’ve always heard it’s impolite to keep one’s friends waiting”
God the storytelling is just so *elegant*
It perfectly adapted one of my favorite comics from this run
@@NerdyNightly thats what I love, the comic itself already almost perfect; the adaptation did it job to perfect it.
little late to answer but i can´t believe that after 4 or 5 really short scenes between those two it is sooo wholesome when they finally reunite.
Elegant is a good word for it
@@duxatrox7693 yep, this is what great writing and amazing acting can do.
Here's a fun fact that everyone missed in this episode. In the 1989 scene, a guy behind Hobb tells the same rabbit joke as the one in the 1389 scene. Hobb hears it and giggles before the guy finishes the joke as Hobb has already known that joke for so long. Writing touches like these are what make a great episode even greater.
This is one great thing about the comic that the filmed version doesn't quite nail - in that issue, we're introduced to each new century by the conversation in the tavern. And you get to see how, through the centuries, people talk about the same things, tell the same jokes, share the same stories, over and over again, just in slightly new ways. It's kind of a microcosm of the entire run of Sandman itself.
And also Poll Tax
And people on the dole, and a return to law and order.
Bruh "everyone" really ?
Reactors may miss stuff cuz they have to talk and show their emotions but believe me not a single person who watched that on their own at home missed stuff that obvious.
@@МихаилРадулов-й4т Read my comment, and realize exactly what im talking about first. Then tell me if you haven't missed (Hob's giggle and realization).
Hob has always been one of my favorite characters in comics, and this actor's delivery, "I have hated every second of the last 80 years... I have so much to live for," really speaks to me.
He's so complex, and the actor nailed it here!
i loved it soooooooo muuchhhh
"Death is a mug's game" seems like the running theme for Hob.
He's got some acting genes. Ben Kingsley is his father.
@@rogerlie4176 I love that I now know that, thank you!
I love the change in Dream’s expression from 1589 to 1689. He’s clearly bothered by Hob’s success, and he feels like it’s thrown off his easy bet that Hob would want to die at this point. But then, at his lowest point, when he still chooses to live, it’s like Morpheus recognises there’s something far more interesting about him then he first anticipated.
Indeed 🤗
As a hospice worker, I am so shocked at how many people are surprised to see Death portrayed as kind and compassionate. It breaks my heart how many people perceive death as something sinister. I'm so grateful to Neil for giving us this beautiful representation ❤
I loved your reaction! Thanks for sharing with us 😊
@@Squeekysquid I personally enjoyed Supernatural's portrayal of Death.
Detached, proud, cold, analytical, deliberate... but I will say this was a superb portrayal as well. She did so much with so little screen time.
Bless you. My mother was in hospice care in her final days on Earth, and I was so thankful for their presence. with that experiences, and others that I have been party to, I have grown to believe that hospice workers are absolute heroes who bring so much of the spirit of this Death to those whose lives are ending and to their families. I marvel at the ability to remain so compassionate and so kind in the face of constant loss, but please do know that your calling is truly appreciated.
Breaking up in the rain because Hob dared ask "What are we?" to his immortal friend who he's only been seeing regularly for 500 years.
LOLL
😂
😂🤣😂🤣
Like, bro, Good omens or what
*once every century, regularly makes it seem like they met everyday for 500 years.
I liked how they highlighted everyone's different reactions to Death. We saw fear, worry, acceptance, regret, and even relief. It was EXTREMELY moving.
I hope the real Grim reaper is as nice as she is
"I'm really glad it didn't cut back to the mom." I remember this scene from the comics, the mom actually screams "NO!" and is shown crying over the crib. That has been seared in my mind for years, and that scene really got my tears going.
I said this on a different video but this episode really touched me. As a Paramedic (EMT) you can have days where you feel like you are just seeing nothing but death or its following you up close and personal Even though you are in a group and doing everything correctly you can feel very alone, the thought now of not being alone because you are holding their hand and they are holding yours is something I will forever carry with me and it gives me unimaginable comfort as odd as it sounds.
That walk of saying goodbye to life was beautiful and deep.
"The thought of not being alone because you are holding their hand and they are holding yours is something I will forever carry with me", damn are you sure you weren't a writer or a poet in your past life, because that was beautiful.
Paramedics don't get the respect y'all deserve. I was having a stroke as a young adult and this one paramedic was attune to my symptoms and got me transported to the proper hospital. He helped me get dressed even though I was paralyzed on my right side. I was incontinent in front of him and he didn't bat an eye. He fed my cat before we left. Got 2 IVs in me in a moving ambulance. He saved my life.
Thank you for all you do, I know it is one of the most difficult and unappreciated jobs in the world.
@@Flufferz626 I think most paramedics feel that it is our honour to be with you when you most need someone. but you said rightly most of the job is actually being present with a patient in the moment and reading the signs.
@Fury-Ninja: How compassionate you are!...I love this episode for the same reasons: I found the way the 2 stories worked in tandem - the man who was going to live forever, & the gentle interaction between those whose time has come & the Angel of Death - overwhelmingly beautiful:
Thank you for your comment: it’s always good to read something that sets up a positive train of thought!
From Brighton 🌈 UK, take care & be well!
🙏🏻🌹🙏🏽
Although they aren't sequential in the comics it was so smart to put these two stories together into an episode.
It's an adaptation and good it's an AMAZING adaptation. Not only it adapts to the media but pefercttly brings the whole feeling
@@dark3rthanshadows Coincidence that the comic's feeling is so attuned to Netflix's obsession with over-compensating political themes.
First six episodes were great. Last handful were appalling.
@@AdAstra78 what?
@@AdAstra78 Everything is political if you hate it enough
@@Gafafsg That response doesn't make sense. I clearly said the first six episodes were enjoyable. That's the problem with idiots with extreme views on either side. You never open your ears to middle ground.
This episode SOOOO deserves and Emmy. Watching it a fourth time I am blown away by the score. The soundtrack is brilliant.
100% the contrast of Death's purpose and heavy subject matter playing out on screen with the light, almost airy quality of the score really elevates this episode. It may be one of the singularly best TV episodes I've witnessed.
@@scottbrawley2599 I agree. I have been using this episode to get people into the show (Having them watch it first).
I absolutely went to pieces on one particular scene of this episode. I was calling out, crying at how unfair it was. And yet unable to do anything but accept what I was watching. It was so powerful.
@@sarahlouise7991 it was the baby for me. I was gutted
An episode of television with Hob Gadling from the comic is something that I thought would never happen, and I never realized that I wanted it so much until I saw it. I actually cried when I realized that the entire rest of the episode was the Hob Gadling story. It hit me SO HARD to see it so well done in this medium. And combining that with the whole segment with Death, which was so moving and special in its own way...this might be my actual favorite episode of a show in a very long time.
I honestly did think that could have been one of the things they choose to skip but really didn't wish they did! The show surprised me time and again!
@@zenithquasar9623 Now all we need is 'A Dream of a Thousand Cats' :D
I cried when he said “you’re late” with a smile. Happy to see his friend.
@@river_acheron have I got some good news
@@Capsaysin YESSS! I got the notification! I am actually watching now. This is AMAZING. I never would have thought for a moment we would see this!
I love how Hob Gadling's character arc reflects humanity's growth and development.
I really liked the contrast between the two halves of this episode. I'm pretty sure they are adaptations of two different issues, so it was deliberate. Nice.
The first half was about accepting the inevitability of death, while the second was about completely rejecting it. Not just physically, but also philosophically. Death doesn't just suggest that dying is inevitable, but also that it is natural and necessary for the human psyche. Hob on the other hand rejects both the physical act of dying and Death's philosophy. "Are you crazy? [...] There's everything to live for."
and what is so great is it is two people talking
They are two issues. 13 (Men of Good Fortune) is the second half, 17 (The Sound of her Wings) is the first half. Rob Gadling appears later on too which I think caused confusion.
@@eloisepasteur
Absolutely adore Kirby Howell-Baptiste as Death!
It was one of those casting choices that immediately flooded my brain with serotonin: I’ve watched her in everything I could since I first saw her work! She’s inherently a warm, positive actor who always seems empathetic - reminds me a lot of a younger Olivia Coleman & Sophie Okonedo in that way. (And Sophie Okonedo was my dream casting for Death back in the ‘90s!)
Love your reactions!
P.S., You HAVE to react to Good Omens - it is amazing!
But she was so so terrible in ‘The Good Place’. Her accent in it was appalling.
@@MrChiddler yeah, its hard to nail and Australian accent if youve never lived there
@@jeringatai3156 She has a bit in "Barry" season 2, where her character Sasha, who is British and an actress, discusses fake accents with Barry (Bill Hader) and says she would "never play an Australian", maybe it's a reference to that? Because that would be funny
@@MrChiddler No way--I had no idea it was the same actress! I felt her performance was one of the weakest in The Good Place, but she was one of my top 3 favorite things about Sandman. What a difference.
@@jeringatai3156 I’ve played an Australian exactly once in my career, & it was truly one of the two hardest accents I have ever had to do. (Especially because I was onstage opposite someone who was playing a Bostonian, which sits a little too close in my brain to the region of Australia I was focused on)
I was looking past that technical element of her performance in The Good Place because, if you notice, the other main ‘Australiaian’ character Henry (played by another Brit, Dominic Burgess) also has a really thick, comedic accent that didn’t seem to be going for realistic. It was as if they were aiming more for a panto feel for those accents.
She was able to make we want her and Chidi to stay together whilst also loving Eleanor & Chidi. She was humorously benevolent yet maintained her core self. (Her era in the Good Place itself was hysterically real to me, but then I’ve always argued that if there is an afterlife I’d spend a great deal of time assuming that I was in the middle of a psychotic break, so I commiserated with her ‘testing her dying dream’ hypothesis.)
Can’t wait to see where her career goes from here
All these people who freaked out at the casting of Death because she wasn't a white goth girl are so wrong.
Kirby Howell-Baptiste absolutely nails the essence of Neil Gaiman's Death brilliantly. Absolutely perfect casting in my humble opinion.
Honestly, I was a little put off at first when i saw a clip of her on youtube, but after giving it a chance and watching her first visit, she instantly captured my heart and I couldn't imagine anyone else playing death live action, it feels like she really gets the character. It's one thing to just have the dialogue backing you up, but she really delivers it like you would imagine it from just reading
Uh honestly in the comics I was always put off that Death was a white woman wearing an Ankh 🥴 like that symbol is so African and important to the Black culture that I was very pleased when they cast a Black woman to play Death because I think it would have been *very* disrespectful otherwise
@@V_4_Versace isn’t it Egyptian? So more Arabic than general African?
I didnt like it, i wanted to see a deatchcore post punk style kinda girl like in the comics, this version of death looks like a regular black girl with a necklace
@@V_4_Versace Egyptians are arabic culture, being in the same continent doesnt mean the english and the french are the same
What a beautiful concept - that when death comes for you, it comes as a friend; no matter the circumstance.
if a goth chick with an angelic smile dont visit me when i die, no one is attending my funeral, not even me
I miss Death's punk goth look, but this actress totally crushed it. Won me over completely.
In real life Kirby Howell Baptiste has a goth aesthetic. They legit reduced it for the show.
@@LadyScaper I wonder why they chose to go away from that then. The actress was so very good and I'm sure the fans of the comics would have loved that nod to the comics.
@@LadyScaper Yeah, I looked her up and was honestly a bit confused as to why they did that too. I miss the eyeliner too but in the comics she got gothier as it went so maybe they'll do it more as it goes on.
@@Saphthings I honestly think they dialed down death's goth look bc they wanted the episode to feel more "raw" and natural like death is.
@@Saphthings Neil Gaiman pointed out that Death doesn't have the Eye of Horus eyeliner in the 'Sound of Her Wings' - it only turns up at the start of Season of Mists.
This episode reminded me of the best Doctor Who episodes, same vibe, same way to address big themes with a delicate approach
Neil Gaiman coincidentally wrote some amazing Doctor Who episodes.
Oh, like the ones where a group visits someone at the moment of death to witness their passing. "I don't know what to do when it's not an evil plan."
@@JeshuaSquirrel Could you say which Doctor/season or Episode?
@@Rea3443 the end of Capaldi in "Twice Upon a Christmas". I think there was also a Jodie episode that had this too.
@@JeshuaSquirrel It's Twice Upon a Time.
Love, love, LOVE your take on all creators having a “relationship” with Dream. As someone who loves stories and writing, I think that’s why I absolutely adore Dream’s character. He’s a creator and storyteller and is the “muse” for all other storytellers.
Dream's bargain with Shakespeare is not as bad as some people assume. He just sent him dreams that would inspire him, and he still wrote the plays himself. What Dream asked in return should be made clear in later seasons if the show is renewed.
“Think but this, and all is mended, / That you have but slumbered here / While these visions did appear. / And this weak and idle theme, / No more yielding but a Dream”
while everybody noticed shakespeare, i don't think any reacter recognized that in 1389, dream crossed paths with geoffrey chaucer, the poet responsible for the canterbury tales (arguably the predecessor to shakespeare).
I love this version of an anthropomorphic Death, a friend with a kind word and comforting hand.
If this episode doesn't win an Emmy I'll be shocked. It was perfect. No other words for it
Well . twin peaks season 3 episode 8 should have won an Emmy as well. It was as perfect as this one. It won nothing at all. The Emmys aren't t what they used to be. As many other Awards.
The baby scene was well done. Fr what I remember the baby ask Death "is this all I get" "thats not fair". So Im glad Death still had the conversation despite not being able to read the text from the baby.
Death is my favorite character from the Sandman comics and one of my favorites in all of comics. I read the issues as they came out (yes, I'm old) and still have issue #8, the first appearance of Death. Meeting this character made me not fear death because I imagine I'll meet her when my time comes.
That's incredible, amazing how stories can ease our fears
I love that they took two of the best single issues of the comic and combined them so fluidly.
Everyone complaining about this death can fuck off into the sun.
I love the detail of you chuckling at the moments from the comic showing up.
Like I literally quoted moments as they happened, I loved it so fucking much.
"Destiny, Death, Dream, Desire, Delirium, Despair and... who are we missing?"
I mean... you couldn't have said it better if you tried 😂
Bruh that's such a good coincidence
Destruction 😉
Epic!!!
Destruction......
so rose is technically destruction or not?
We don't know the exact point that Harry dies, but his cough coincides with the sound of Death opening the door, which implies that it's then. And yet when we see him standing next to his body, the violin is still where he put it after greeting her. Either she showed up early enough that he could set it down, or she let him doing so after death apply in the physical world - either way, she didn't just let it be fallen onto the floor - it's a lovely little but of thoughfulness from her.
Death talking to the infant kills me. My interpretation was that while the babbling was never given subtitles, Death understood the baby and we can infer what the baby was trying to say. Did you all get that impression while watching that scene?
Oh absolutely. Death understands all of us, and it gives that moment even more power that the baby knows what is happening
Yeah, she is answering questions that the baby actually says in the comic. I don’t think her responses make sense except as to specific comments the baby said
The episode was crafted with magic because it was so well done and beautifully delivered. The portrayal of Death was so well done and had the perfect actress to play Death. The relationship between Dream and Death was wonderfully executed. The interplay between Hob and Dream was well-rounded and rich.
And yes, I would love a Good Omen's reaction. I get some of the same vibes watching The Sandman as I did watching GO.
It's SO funny to me that, when naming the Endless, the one you couldn't remember was Destruction. For, you know, reasons. That we won't mention here, because spoilers.
I thought exactly the same I genuinely laughed out loud.
I thought that was funny too
This is one of my favorite episodes so far, death is so warm, compassionate, and caring it's a beautiful interpretation of death. And then to see dream and hobs relationship develop over the centuries is a beautiful thing to see, dream getting mad and leaving, getting captured and hob thinking he was abandoned, then for dream to find hob and apologize and call him friend was so sweet. Hob buying real-estate and keeping the "tavern" going so dream could find him was amazing, it shows how much his friendship with dream means to hob
It’s also pointed out that maybe Death knew her brother needed a friend and kinda set Hob & Dream up.
Everything about this ep was spot on. Casting was perfect and pairing the two stories was brilliant. I cried along with you guys. It’s crazy how something can be horrible and beautiful at the same time. And yes, good omens would be great. Turn about is fair play. 😉
I find the casting of Death debatable. The actress doesn't quite capture the whimsy of Death in the comics, the pigeon scene was pulled from the comics but they cut half of it because I honestly don't think she could pull it off.
She captured the kindness, wisdom and sadness easily, but she doesn't capture the goofy liveliness of Death
Yup, I feel exactly. She's just not as cute and quirky here
@@Neutral_Tired she captures it wonderfully ..she’s might not be “perfect” but she certainly is one of the best
@@Neutral_Tired ummm obviously not when you compare it to the comics but she literally bodied the adaptation of death being something so sad but beautiful at the same time she executed extremely well
Good Omens is great! Highly recommend it. Neil Gaiman is a great writer, and he cowrote Good Omens with Terry Pratchett, who is maybe my favorite author of all time.
Without a doubt the best episode of the series thus far. The vignette of all her different ‘appointments’ was achingly beautiful and tragic. The actress is outstanding.
Dream meeting with Hob at the end is just so damned wholesome. No matter how many times I see it I just sit here with a stupid grin and tears in my eyes. This show...
Incidentally, the comic makes it clearer that the effect of 24/7 is indeed far reaching. Not everyone, but worldwide.
7:30 I had the EXACT same reaction! “Holy shit, those extra 30 years!!”
Yeah and they couldn't change the Hob year because he needs to meet Shakespeare at that point in his career
When the immortal shows up in 1989, the song playing is by a band called "Fine Young Cannibals". Their lead singer was Roland Gift. Roland played Xavier St. Cloud in the TV series "Highlander" as an immortal bad guy. I don't know if the similarity of this second half episode to Highlander inspired that music choice or it was just a happy accident.
The sandman is one of the best comic books of dc and this is brillant adaptation.
Definitely do Good Omens! And the film adaptation of Stardust if you’re feeling even more Gaiman 💜
I LOVE that movie, I wish I could see it again fresh for the first time.
@@ClarusPolaris omg has he seen it??? If not, that would be another GREAT one to do with the different knowledge going in
Death, someone who cares. That was the concept and they hit the marks like a bomb. The Hob storyline is one of my favorites, and how it continues and how Hob pops up later on with the same verve for life. Its so good. There is going to be a lot of award talk about this episode and this series later... so much done well, so much that is ... how did they pull that off? Joanna is the current Constantine, Johanna is the ancestor.
As someone who read The Sandman graphic novels, This episode was my favorite by far. It was taken straight out of the book and was so perfectly portrayed by the actors. Definitely gave me feels when he approached Hob at the end. Well Done 👏
Even Death was making sure she was well out of earshot before the mom came back to the crib.
I’m not a crier and I cried just watching your guy’s reactions!!
Sorry 😅
Something i found interesting as someone working in healthcare is how incredibly similar Deaths attitude is to so many other healthcare workers, how the secondary trauma becomes such a constant pressure that you wanna just quit. We do it for the money mostly, but we do care and thats the shit that cuts deepest, but we ARE here for them, the patient. What we want is secondary to what they need.
i loved this episode, i was a mess of tears with death and fell for her all over again, and my heart was warmed by hob and dream. it's honestly perfectly hilarious that you forgot destruction, comics considered.
Something i just learned; Originally Gaiman got 8 issues greenlit and if the series would continue or not depended on the sales, for a while it seemed like they wouldn't make it so Neil wrote issue 8 knowing it could be the end of the entire series and that issue was the Death one. Makes a lot of sense with how touching the issue is
The way they connected the two issues of the comic into one episode its incredible, we start with the acceptance of death and we ended with total negation of it, absolutely beatiful episode
This episode and the quote about dreams in the previous one just remind me so much of Death in Discworld.
It really shows that Terry Pratchett and Neil were good friends.
Here is one of his most iconic scenes:
“All right," said Susan. "I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need... fantasies to make life bearable."
REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE.
"Tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Little-"
YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.
"So we can believe the big ones?"
YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.
"They're not the same at all!"
YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YET-Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.
"Yes, but people have got to believe that, or what's the point-"
MY POINT EXACTLY.
― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather
BTW. The Hogfather is basically Santa Claus and the premise of the book is that he is missing and Death takes his place so that people don't lose faith in him.
I think Gaiman's version of Death may actually precede Pratchett's, but I may be misremembering the dates of the Discworld books. I always loved how Pratchett was essentially the fantasy version of Douglas Adams, but way more prolific.
God that's one of my favorite pieces of Sir Terry's writing
@@RabidDogma The Colour of Magic predates Sandman by about 5 years
@@RabidDogma Mort was released in 1987 and that was not the first appearance of Death, just the first book to focus on him.
Sandman was released in 1989, which is close enough that they might have worked on their characters together, because that is the sort of thing they did.
@@squngy0 Oh, that's a good point then. Honestly, I have no idea who Gaiman was collaborating with at that point though I think he was still in England at that point.
Yes please for a Good Omens reaction. This was lovely to watch. Thanks so much. Will now go and watch your other reactions to this series.
Thank you, we will!
This was a hard episode for me. The man by the lake not getting a chance to say goodbye to his wife. The baby in the crib. Wow.
The empty one is Destruction and the mirror is for Desire’s own symbol. Their symbol is a heart but I like the choice of the mirror so they can look at themself. (I haven’t read the comic so I don’t know if that was always there or not).
dont spoil, he chose not to say it for a reason
When that clip dropped of dream and death visiting harry a lot of "comic readers" complained that kirby howell-baptiste wasn't peppy enough for death. If you read the actual fucking comic, when death is actually in a room with a dying human being taking a soul, sure she is kind and gracious, but she is also serious and respectful which is exactly the performance in this show.
She's super peppy in her first solo and with Tim Hunter, but there's context. She's not "working" and in one of those is literally kinda on vacation
@@JBWinter thats my point exactly. She has a work personality and a personal life personality and i think some comic readers forget that.
@@justarandomveryintelligent8934 She's pretty peppy in the Norton story too, but knowing Norton it's because he's also kooky and peppy 😅 a kindred spirit
This was my favorite episode everrr!
It’s hilarious watching you guys laugh but for different reasons. One cause it’s more of a “ah I see what they did there” or “ah I see how they changed that or what’s coming” and the other is just a new experience.
Thank you! We like to think our different experiences make it more dynamic
One of the great portrayals of Death. The other being, to my mind, Terry Pratchett's portrayal of Death in the Discworld (particularly as portrayed in Hogfather).
My dad committed suicide 2 years ago almost to the day and this episode gave me feels and thoughts and made me cry too.
I'm so sorry to hear that. I can't imagine that experience, but I hope you find peace with it, and are able to move forward remembering the best of him.
Best dialogue was when she says we are here because of them. Kind of give respect and honor our own lives.
I swear that baby part hits so hard. But the drug user hits hard too, you can see a kind of my suffering is over in her eyes. This episode was just to good.
Your editing is perfect in this reaction. Nerdy's side glances and Clarous having no idea what is about to happen. . . Beautifully done 💯
Blanking on the seventh sibling is hilarious as a reader
Book : Destiny
Ankh : Death
Mask : Dream
The missing Symbol : Destruction (The Prodigal)
Heart : Desire
Hook : Despair
Swirl of colors : Delirium (Once known as Delight - symbol of Delight is a Flower)
The symbols go from oldest to youngest of the siblings.
That part of the episode, of Death making the visits, was the one that I cried the most, I was really touched. And I cried again here watching with you
Somehow there is still so much hate about the casting of death….the common excuse that “it isn’t about race, she isn’t goth enough.” I think we all know the real reason people don’t like the casting of death. The usual
Which is the same crap Black goths get hit with IRL and it's infuriating. Don't drive people out of the community, it's small enough as it is!
My reason was that she was absolutely fucking awful in the Good Place. She was great in this though so I am over it. Nothing to do with race. Just the worst Australian accent ever.
She was simply gorgeous - so gentle, empathetic...& beautiful!
I’m not familiar with the comics, but I might have similar problems with the filming of a book that I love (The Goldfinch, for example)
I find this series so beguiling, that I ‘ration’ the episodes (delayed gratification!), but I know that I’ll want to watch this particular episode again,& even again...
🙏🏻💔🙏🏽
You're so wise with your ability to see into the heart of others. And your praising of an actress of color really does just show your a better person than most people. Just like there are some people who hate the change for race issues, there are some who laud the character because of race issues. Most people I've spoken with have a problem with the change is because Death is literally the most iconic character in Sandman, far more people recognize Death than recognize Dream, and she probably has a bigger fan base amongst casual comic readers. So deciding to change it was always risky. And this just wasn't amazing. The actress was fine. That's it. People are acting like it was some transformative performance, it wasn't. It was the same character she played in The Good Place, and Veronica Mars and it's not much removed from her role in Barry (excepting the comedy aspect). Again, it was fine, not bad but not great either. She would have been right at home playing a reaper in Dead Like Me. She's basically playing a standard Reaper from Supernatural.
And the costuming / character design is just lazy. At least when they decided to redesign Desire, they actually put some work into it.
@@Mauther I’m glad you caught on to my crazy wisdom and the fact that I am in fact better than most. Your observational skills are second to none
I first saw the actress who plays Death when she was a character in “The Good Place”. I never would have pictured her in this role but she- dare I say- killed it.
I really thought I was going to be fine this episode, but then one of the deaths reminded me of a friend who died from a relapse and really needed a friendly face, and suddenly I was crying
These are two of my favorite issues from the series, and stapling them together like this was absolutely _perfect._ Easily the best episode of TV i've seen in at least a year.
After watching it I went back and reread them for the first time in ages, and what surprised me was how the show did both of them _better._ I went into it just hoping the show measured up to the comic version at all, but in both cases it ended up being a straight upgrade.
The shift in the timeline made Morpheus and Hob's last scene 1000% mire effective imo, with him missing their last meeting.
This episode was just so ... beautiful, heartbreaking and to some point, life affirming. I really hope to see her in more episodes and maybe even her own series.
I watched the first half slowly, partly because I was almost dreading the diner episode (which turned out to be a bit toned down from the comic). But once I got to this one I just kept going all day until the end and I wish I hadn't. I really wish they'd released an episode a week instead of putting the whole thing out at once, my self control is only so strong. As you said, it's nice to be able to talk about it for awhile, and this is definitely the kind of show that really benefits from having some time to digest what happened before you move on to the next episode. Kirby Baptiste-Howell was fantastic as Death, she hit just the right note. I don't understand how everyone who watches it doesn't cry through that entire story, and then again at the end. Perfect episode.
The subtlety of scenes between Hob and Morpheus is amazing. So much is said in so few words.
03:15 I too guessed she was Destiny, but after she said "you'll see me again", I changed my mind. lol. I love this episode so much! I cried happy tears when Dream has finally unlocked a mortal friend!
First time I thought seriously about death was after read Sandman, in 1992. Since then Dream's sentence is part of my life: "To die is so natural as born..."
This is honestly one of my favorite episodes of tv I have ever seen.
The expression on your faces when the fruit vendor rubbed the apple on his shirt! There was some low-key outrage there.
Damn I got excited for a second, didn’t see the premiere part.
Just a Masterpiece of Comic-Books/Graphic Novels/Books, and a Masterpiece of an adaptation! Never thought i would actually be able to see it on screen, so well made, before i eventually die! So good! Ty DC/Vertigo for being able to grow-up with you and your stories/books!
I like the reactors different styles
claroos is at the 7:55 mark like..oh no..are they going to...they wouldn't..
while after the nerdy guy is just staring watching, not looking to see her reaction, just engrossed in the story.
then at 7:58 the little side glance at him by her to be like 'hey are they doing what i think they're doing?'
then at 8:05 and he starts crying and her eyes get even wider because *he* **knows** and she doesn't. ah *chef's kiss*
Good Omens reaction, definitely!!
Really enjoying your Sandman reactions. This particular episode is especially profound.
The issue with Hob Gadling, Men of Good Fortune, came out in 1989. You can tell because all the years came from starting with that and subtracting 100 all the way back to 1389, thus making the final meeting the present day.
The Shakespeare thing was a piece of good luck. Gaiman said in an interview that he examined where Shakespeare would have been in his career in 1589, and found all he had written until then was unreadable. Which gave him the idea to make Dream be the inspiration for Shakespeare's famous plays.
Though this episode wasn't "flashy" or "action packed", and me not being familiar with the comics at all, i consider it to be my favorite episode. Was just beautifully done.
This episode had me crying when I 1st watched it and I'm crying now again while I'm watching it with you guys. It's just so freaking wholesome. It really hits in the feels. 🥲
The Sound of Her Wings always makes me cry. If it doesn't for you, you're not human.
Also, Hob Gadling is my absolute favorite Sandman character. I wish I was him.
I love what you said about "creatives have a relationship with Dream" bit. and I completely agree with every word.
as many people said, the Sandman is a story about stories rather than people.
Your reactions are great, I really appreciate the talk at the end. And this is such a moody, contemplative, philosophical show, the kind that most of the time just doesn’t get made.
Dude I love watching you bounce excitedly as you go "I know what this is!!"
That episode hit different. That moment she headed for the baby I bawled my eyes out. As a Mom, thats every mother's worst nightmare.
It was probably the one scene from this episode that people familiar with the comic were dreading
Peasants apparently had decent teeth back in the day. Cavities weren't really a huge problem until sugar became common.
Nerdy I agree with you ..Sandman delves into our humanity and this show is so well done on every level !! I cant believe how well they have interpreted this adaption.. Tom Sturridge as Dream is PERFECT for this role !! All the casting
I also love that they kept the patron talk.
"Who are we missing?"
Beautiful. Couldn't have been more perfect. 🤣🤣
Book = Destiny
Mask = Dream
Hook = Despair
Illusion color paint ball thingy= Delirium
Ankh = Death
Heart = Desire (in this scene its the one next to Despair)
Empty case = Destruction
And if you look closely, they're ordered by age. Destiny is the oldest, then comes Death, then Dream, then Destruction, Desire and Despair are twins but desire was born first, and Delirium (which was Euphoria / Joy before) is the youngest !
The mirror represents desire, as it would be where their sigil. Desire and the actor who plays them go by they and them.
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Nerdy: [Excited ham-boning] That makes sense.
Claroos, bewildered: DOES IT?!
This is my first video of yours I’ve seen, and that moment convinced me to subscribe
when she asked at 3:20 if we are going to see Johanna's mission, my first thought was "hopefully"...
You're doing great work, thanks for that.
Loving your channel, greetings from Mexico!!!!!
In the comic with the Death story (issue 8), at the end Dream just says he relearned a lesson he had forgotten but it's not spelled out what the lesson is. I feel like that's made so much more clearer and impactful in the screen adaption. We get some explanation for Death ('this is my job, I hated it for a while, but eventually realized I'm doing it for the humans as they need a kind face to hold onto as they go'). Then we get the Hob story. The conclusion is Dream realizes he had been making it all about himself, but he was made by and for the humans, not the other way around. His job is to serve them. He sees that, and he sees Hob's love for the human life, also making him realize as insignificant as one life is to him as an Endless, to a human individual it is ever-rich and ever-promising. By the end, he stops looking so disdainful, accepting his place and duty, and also accepting that a human can be worthy of his friendship.
14:30 I don't think the clothes would be expensive for the production. There are stock items to rent for this. And the Tavern is probably also from previous productions.
1889 to 1989 is such a huge leap to modernity