Idk why everybody worries about that. Fighter planes make it past flak guns, when gunners are looking at the target, and they know where the plane is heading. I was thinking about using it more for stealth options, like an Endor invasion team scenario, I just used the ISD in the picture for scale/save time. But the main point is that a planet is huge, there would be so man places you could drop in through that would imagine would be relatively undetected. You ever seen video from the ISS, and yet you only see a small part of Earth.
In the novels it’s explained that Alderaan had some of the strongest planetary shields in the galaxy as a pacifist world. But, of course, we all know how that went.
i like the idea of a huge fork shaped star destroyer that just lands on a planetary shield, and just sits there pumping the atmosphere full of tie fighters
@@subatomicseal7789 I mean like the concept design shown. 3 huge prongs with shield doors and hangars. It just breaches the shield in 3 positions and floods the place with ties.
It is kind of ironic, all they needed to do was turn the shield gate upside down and would work exactly the same, but be completely protected if they closed the "doors". The only counterpoint I could see is if the gate was actually resting on the shield, as it doesn't look like it is orbiting, but we have already know that repulsors are extremely common.
Potentially dumb response: pushing up on the shield might not work because you can't push as much of the weight of the gate station, or using repulsors to push it up might just mess with the repulsors, as shields like this apparently don't like repulsors.
@@nilok7 Exactly what I was thinking; also, I'm sure that funding and distribution of assets dictate that you can't always have the best equipment on hand. Hell, I remember doing fundraising to buy additional gear that Uncle Sam didn't budget for... An inside shield door might mean they wouldn't have been able to afford a Garrisonon or would have left another asset completely unguarded. Remember the Imperials had an entire Galaxy to patrol(meaning a lot of assets guarded by Green Personel); where as the resistance could send everything at one target, including their best Veterans. See how Vader shows up in one Veteran Star Destroyer and the Resistance bugs out!
I suppose it would be theoretically possible to just sit on the shield and let gravity pull you in but I feel like doing this would get you shot to Pieces immediately
Eckharts made a video on the super star destroyer and he said he doubts the Malevolence would be able to disable something that big with one blast, which I agree
LOLOL i was searching about the shield gate the other day, how fortunate you did this video Meta. I absolutely agree with you that the shield is generated from the planet itself and not the shield gate, it would take massive amounts of energy and equipment to produce such an energy shield, additionally, i think "the shield is strong enough to deflect any bombardment" and both ray and particle shield, so no tricks in slowly landing some ship or anything else. I believe that the shield gate interacts with the shield itself by using the same "frequency" of the shield or other more exotic explanation not yet seen in Star Wars. I don't believe in your other wild theories: - Backup shield gates lifted from the planet, i believe that they are built in orbit. - The enemy bringing other shield gates LOLOL In my opinion the only ways to bring down planetary shields are: - Sabotage - Death Star/Starkiller Base - Torpedo Spheres Finally, i do like shield gates and their usefulness.
@@aurorathearcticwolf4243 Planetary shields still protect from stuff like asteroids,so it won't work. Torpedo sphere works by locally overwhelming the shield in its weakest point,so it still has limited effectiveness. Although it makes me wonder how Mandator 4 could shoot through
Am I the only one who red "Steins gate" on the thumbnail at first ? Anyway thanks a lot for this video, I had many questions about this thing that I thought was inconsitencies
The thing is if you slowly move through my shield I'll make sure there are some capital grade balsterbolds waiting for you on the other side. Especially since you would to my knowledge have to drop your shields.
6:18 I suppose it depends on the ship. Since the shield stops anything moving faster than (let's assume) 2 mph, a ship has get close enough to the barrier, shut down the repellant tech at just the right moment, and then descend past the shield before gravity accelerates it 2+ mph. I don't think a Star Destroyer could accomplish such an infiltration successfully, but maybe an A-wing? The planetary shield's thickness would also play a part.
Great video again! Love the idea of a portable gate to facilitate attacks! Kind of the intergalactic version of a bridging vehicle! I guess the answer to the portable gate, and touching down on the gate to penetrate would be frequency modulation. That’s dangerously close to Star Trek tech though! Plus it again asks us to delve into the science of Star Wars. I’m still involved in several back and forths about this from yesterday’s hyper space ramming scenario!! Yikes!!
I'd say it's not possible to pass through the shield since the speed limitation is only on the droidekas so they can touch the ground and move past obstacles without having to worry about the shield getting in the way. I'd imagine that a planetary shield would have that feature removed since blocking physical objects is the point of the shield. My guess would be that the gate uses the prongs to disrupt the shield within the gate somehow. Either by transmitting a counter signal of some kind or physical disruption of the shield. As for bringing your own gate, it's possible the gate would need coordination or special knowledge of the shield to open a hole. Even if an attacker was able to bring a gate and open a hole, that opening would funnel all of your forces through a single area which would be a huge weak point.
Going slowly like that would make you a target especially with ALL repulsion- type systems disabled (which can in fact include some shields). along with the fact that most ships the gravitational pull may cause an out of control scenario due to the engines taking longer to 'fire up'. most ships especially smaller ones may have issues going slow enough to go through the shield and not be a sitting duck for enemy fighters
I'm not even sure, given what we see that Star Wars ships have sufficient engine power to land or take off from planets without the aid of repulsors. Even if it could, the moment you do that you're subject to conventional newtonian physics, which means you'll hit the shield at orbital velocity, or would need to slow to a stop relative to the planet then lower yourself through - which would require continual thrust under the ship equal to the force of gravity of the planet, otherwise you go into freefall. And while Star Wars ships have substantial engines, I don't think most of them have those under the ship. Though I suppose you could try a tail down landing... but in that case you have to hope that the main engines are precise enough to allow for this...
Could the “shield” around the olanet when the devastator arrives now be the atmosphere? Because the rebel pilots were just shooting proton torpedoes at the surface of the shield, it’s all pretty confusing as they were definitely just trying to stop the communication jamming, I’m not sure
The issue I see with just sitting on the shield and letting it sink thru is that during that time, is that the invading forces would be sitting ducks for a dangerously long time, as they'd essentially have to shut down everything to make it through, if the defending force found the ships attempting to invade, they could easily fire at whatever portion of the ship was already through the shield, and destroy it with relative ease, since the shields need to be down for the ship to push through. A friendly force also faces the same issue. As it would be suicide to try passing through the shield with any kind of combat happening in the direct vicinity as the enemy could just fire a few volleys or sortie their fighters to take out the undefended ships as they made the crossing. The only way I could see the strategy working would be using it as a stealth tactic
I think you could improve it by having a few small gateways small enough to allow transmissions through and a main bigger gate way to allow cargo through, and both gateways being under the shield so they're protected eliminating the need for 100s of TIEs and in the eventuality of a break through just launch some TIE Strikers, and open the smaller ones and call for back up
To answer your question at the end I think you could do it but it would take so long that it would allow your enemies to prep them selves reenforcements would take longer to get in and the enemy could attack the bottom of your while your trying to get through
Using a hyperspace jump into the planets atmosphere shouldn't work because in legends (and physics) the gravity of the planet would pull you out of hyperspace too soon
Not to mention even if the gravity well didn't disrupt you, hyperspace jumps are canonically so inaccurate that the fact the Falcon didn't come out of hyperspace directly into the side of a mountain is nothing short of a Force-graced miracle... but then again, I guess that applies to 99% of what happened in the sequel movies in the first place lol
I wouldn't have thought even a very slow moving object could pass through as the shield is always moving, being at it is projected from the planet, and the planet is rotating therefore so is the shield projector, and therefore so is the surface of the shield.
I'd say you COULD just freefall slowly through the shield. However that is a pretty big risk. What if the shield fucks with your engine, and can't get it on in time? Or maybe something else happens and the engines don't come on in time? The ship turns into a gigantic metal rock. And I highly doubt there is a ship in Star Wars that can survive falling uncontrollably from that height, and do ANY of its intended tasks after hitting the ground.
I liked the legends shields that you had to batter down section by section a bit better, the need for shield gates seems silly by comparison but does offer interesting setpieces. And I feel like the shield in the AREA went down, but other parts of the shield stayed up. It's essentially replacing the local projector/the flicker effect that TFA introducted by acting as a vent of some kind.
Tecniclly you could use the AT-TEs magnetic feet to hold on to the belly of ships so that a small entring force armed with jetpacks can be send sloly in with cables so that once breached they could try to sneek up on the gatestation and open it or you could just hide them in some space debree and let them enter from there as seen that they could remain for a while into place.
The problem with passing through a shield slowly would be that you are quite vulnerable while doing so. While the battle in Orbit is still raging, you would be a sitting duck for enemy forces and if you have really bad luck, the planet will have its own weapons to take you down as soon as the first part of your ship comes through. Getting hit by an ion canon while in orbit would turn any large combat vessel into a giant rock falling from the sky, while smaller crafts could be taken down by AA guns, Turbolasers or missile launchers.
Nice video and very well explained. Thank you for that. But the one thing that ACTUALLY bugged me about the shield station was: Why the hell is it on the outside of the shield? If it was on the inside it would actually be protected from the enemy forces by the shield itself and wouldn't be as easily destroyed in a siege. I realize that the Tie-Squadrons and Turbolasers couldn't be used that way but let's be honest: A small station outside dedicated to Tie Squadrons and outfitted with some Turbolasers could do the same and the gate-station could still open and close the shield if necessary.
Have you heard of the Viscount-class star defender? From what I've heard, it was designed to be as large and powerful as the Executor-class star dreadnought. I would like to know even more than what I know about it already.
I think In theory you could have a ship of any size slowly slip though, but the combination of the longer time to pass though, and greater deceleration needed, would likely create an upper practical limit where the shrinking timing window and/or growing energy demands makes multiple smaller crafts more viable
James Vann i think it would be difficult, if not impossible due to the fact that it needs to be done entirely without repulsorlifts. Likely most ships manufactured at the time of Rogue One couldn’t do such a delicate maneuver without repulsorlifts
@@battlesheep2552 fair, but they wouldn't need to forego the use of them entirely, just as they pass though the shield. Even if the tech itself, not it's activation, are the issue it could still be possible to use some sort of tethered repulser tug, but the gate it self suggests that at most they only need some way to retract the repulser into the ship as they passed through
EVA rocket troopers equipped with non-repulsor jetpacks and para gliders deployed by U-Wing or LAAT on the shield edge. Just have them float down near the shield generator. Pop some charges and then hyperspace jump in your fleet into LEO once the shield drops.
Maybe the droids could pass through the shield because they were grounded, but it wouldn't work with a spaceship attempt to move through a planetary shield, unless maybe it was purpose-built like the shieldgate. Maybe the shield gate has some kind of superconducting layer coating the part that comes in contact with the shield, or some other technology that creates an unacceptable cost or vulnerability on most starship, but remains an option for purpose-built vessels like specialized dropships and siege vessels.
There's probably a second shield gate or have some kind of emergency backup plan for when on instead of tie fighters they have tie phantoms after all it is a top secret base.
I still think the Empire could have put the shield gate inside of the shield and it could open it from inside. Better protection and they could have had communication ships or had a way to communicate if the shield was up.
I think it could be done but you would likely burn in atmosphere, and depending on how long it takes to reboot the systems you might just end up blowing up in atmosphere. I could see small shuttle craft with glide capabilities doing the turn off systems and pass through strategy.
One good way to breach a planetary shield would be to send in troops similar to Orbital Drop Shock Troopers from Halo, and have them capture or disable the generator on the ground. Then you'd have unlimited access. And if you managed to capture the shield generator, you can deny enemy reinforcements from reaching the surface
The Force Awakens had concept art that had the Resistance use a giant hammer shaped ship that would have smashed itself through the shield of Stsrkiller base and the front would have opened up and deployed the fighters through the shield. One of the many concepts I found interesting in that book.
damn that's cool as hell. I just googled it and was able to see pics the brick thing, bulldozer, and Lothal capital building looking thing right? I'll give you a shout-out because that would be a cool metamoment vid
I think it would be best to land some kind of transport on top of the shield then deploy air-assault troopers into battle. They jump on the shield, staying still just long enough to pass through, and then freefall to the height that they need to go to before turning on their jump packs or deploying a parachute.
There maybe different types of shields based on whether oxygen and gasses are designed to pass through. Thus space shields won’t let slow moving things through but ground shields might normally allow atmosphere in to not suffocate troops and as a bi-product allow slow movers in.
Problems with slowly going through the shield is it leave you massively open to incoming fire. Plus the size of a star destroy trying to let it slowly pass through would take forever and you have no shields or weapons :P
Depends on how long it takes to get your tech back up and running. Penetrating the shields with a ship is not much use if you end up crashing and I doubt the hyper-matter generator is something that can be stopped and started quickly.
Oooooor what about putting the shield gate UNDERNEATH the shield ? Like it opens it from the inside. From a pure defensive standpoint, it is excellent as when the shield is closed, no one can even touch the planet and shield gate. The communication problem remains, but could be overlooked with your multiple shieldgates solution or having antennas protruding from the shield (or in worse cases, quickly opening the shield for sos while stopping any incoming starfighter with powerful point-defense system). Downside would be that you’ld need to open the shield gate to launch fighters AND exterior forces (star destroyers for example) would be stuck to a wall against the ennemies.
Why not just use something like signal lights since it obviously let's visible light through. A ship stationed on the outside of the shield can read the signals and transmit them where needed.
If you just tried to slowly drop the ship past the shield, the planetary forces would have a good amount of time to fire upon your ships while its essentially trapped. Also there would be a bit of a difference from a middle-age siege and this kind of siege. A planet could support its self with food, water and other supplies. It would be a lot harder to starve a planet than a city
It is worth noting that not every shield is the same type of shield. Ray shields for example couldn’t be passed through at any speed, as seen by all the times they get captured by them. And as those are seemingly the stronger ones (super tanks are ray shielded which makes me think it’s probably stronger cuz that thing was their best) it stands to reason planetary shields are also ray shields. I mean they’re covering a planet, not like energy is apparently a problem. Plus if you could go through that easy the shield wouldnt really work that great so it’s reasonable to assume that they went with the impermeable shield version. Ray shields just seem to take more power than the alternative version because they’re always on something with a large power source even though there’s other places they’d be useful. The outlier is the shield we see on Naboo but my theory is that was a gungun (spell check) shield and they’re not used to using that kind of stuff, being underwater and peaceful, so their tech is probably lower. And that movie was filled with plot armor so there’s that. We also see similar shields in the clone wars movie but that generator was like a few feet across, likely planetary shields are whole building complexes. Although I do wonder what would happen if you used a ray shield like Loathsome used his shield. Would it just topple everything in its path? We’ve never seen one expand that I know of so I can’t say. Likely wouldn’t work in a city tho cuz buildings
Used to be that there were two types of shielding: 1) Ray shielding to block lasers and other hazardous energy 2) Particle shielding to block physical objects When I first saw the droid army walk through the Gungan shield, that was my reasoning. In Legends, one time Han & Chewie tested the particle shield generator of the _Falcon_ by shutting off the repulsor and sub-light engines to see if she'd hover on just shield strength alone for at least a minute. The Correlian trilogy, I believe.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were specialized landing craft with specially made hulls to allow for insertion through planetary shields. They'd probably need to be specially made for stealth, though, since braking for a slow touchdown on the shield would likely make them easy targets for any patrols.
With regards to your idea of the split decision (IE who do we take out? The planetary installation or the fleeing ships?), remember that a Star Destroyer is also a carrier, and contains several wings of bombers. So, the split decision, is irrelevant. You send your bombers after planetary targets and keep the destroyers in orbit to focus on the enemy ships.
The pass through shields were usually ground based or hangers. Which is by necessity. From what I understand if Star Wars planetary shields, they’re on a whole other level of strong.
Why have the gate on the outside of the shield? Just have the gate be on the inside of the shield and its gate part raise up to open the shield. I feel like the security of that would be worth not having the extra laser cannon turrets from the gate. Then if you still want to be able to launch fighters then have hangers that can stick out like he mentioned in the video.
is there any tech that could project a shield from stations in orbit instead? that way, you can create the shield as an offensive weapon in a sense, where you use the shield to prevent the enemy from leaving at all, and use the gates as controlled entry points for your forces
@@MetaNerdzLore you'd only need to send in missions on your terms. other than that, you could keep a planet totally isolated, and if the stations sit outside the shield itself (possibly overlapping shields to cover weak spots?), the planet under siege couldnt do a single thing
Looking at how the x wings hit the shield and crashed and rolled instead of being vaporized or something, you could maybe land a ship on the shield and shut off, letting the ship drop through then restarting. Might be difficult with a capital ship, you might not be able to restart all the systems on a big ship fast enough.
on that scale, I think the shield would slowly stress the ship causing it to rip apart. I think the sheild gate, is made of some hefty materials, with special reflectors.
Planetary shields operate on different levels and scales. Unlike the other 'star' programs, planetary shields are custom designed and built. They are not "designed" to allow slow moving objects to pass through.
How about creating an artificial meteor cluster to shower the shield to cover squadrons or whole fleets using the bombardment to drift through the shield itself. Thereby creating a multiple direction attack that'd also overwhelm the shield.
Maybe have the shield oscillate ± a few meters around a set distance from the ground in emergencies. This would prevent anything passing through it no matter how slow since it'll always be hit by the shield rapidly expanding.
if i had to guess id say planetary shield technology is more like shields on prison cells that dont let you pass through them then they are shields on the giant gungan dinosaurs. im pretty sure the reason the gungans shields allowed things to pass through them is so they could be mobile. sorta like how the droideka shields worked so the shield would just pass over things like rocks rather then push them away. a planetary shield would have no reason to allow slow moving or stagnant objects through it so i doubt they would.
The problem is, that the shield is not of the same type as Gungan shield. It's not a proper deflector nor anywhere near a deflector. I don't remember what it's classified as but it's more of a kinetic type of energy shielding that is affected by pressure and friction. Likely the same tech they use to keep water out of their habitats. The PSI of the water pressure is enough to keep water out at the depths they've built. And at the same time due to the fluid like manner it's projected, it takes pressure and impact and distributes it in ripples. Like trying to slam something at high velocity into water. It deforms and wobbles, but doesn't break. On the other hand conventional tech, which includes planetary shielding, deflector and ray shielding doesn't have these same properties. Deflector and Ray shielding are effectively 'walls'. Deflectors are more meant for energy dispersion in a similar manner to an atmosphere. Which is why things such as proton torpedoes and other energy sheathed projectiles pass through most deflectors. To a solid object they cause a certain level of impact and friction. Since they're primarily made to block energy weapons the sheathing takes the impact and is (theoretically) stripped, allowing the rocket, torpedo or what have you to continue on to it's impact target at velocity. It's also why even unshielded fighters such as tie fighters can make direct strikes against a capital class ship's hull. And why The Resistance Bombers were able to directly bomb the First Order Dreadnought in The Last Jedi. Ray shielding is particle shielding that takes much more energy to project is a much more effective wall shielding. It's usually used on either small scales for hardened tanks and such, shielding that blocks areas vented to vacuum, holding cell or entrapment shielding, Directed protection or in our case here, planetary shielding with likely a secondary deflector layer above or below the main 'body'. So I think that the shield station uses controlled disruption devices to open the 'gate' and that simply keeping a controlled and slow 'drop' through a planetary shield would just end up with ventral damage of a ship that 'parks' itself on top.
You may be able to get through the shield if you powered down and passed through very slowly, but that makes you a slow defenseless target. Easy for fighters, ships, or surface defenses to take out.
For some reason I've thought that objects with enough mass wouldn't be able to pass through while smaller things going on slower speeds would pass relatively fine. The shield would pretty much bend enough to let something small through but make a ripple of some kind that would be detected on the shield generator controls. I have no proof for any of this though.
My tactic would be to lock the gate in the open position by using Ion weapons. Think the main batteries of Venators which are Ion weapons when fitted with plasma. This would fry any control systems in the gate structure and lock it in the open position
@@Centurion0419 the tactict of locking the gate open would also fry their comms systems and therefore lose control and contact at the same time making the base fend for itself. I would use Corvette ships to enter Atmosphere and use attack and fighters to gain air superiority of the base, the sky's and space. I would use interdictors to keep imperial ships from fleeing and to act as control points.
Remember the hyper-bombing thing? Use it here but slow the engines when passing through, after that, detonate and all the blast would be contained within the shield, bouncing off it and towards the surface, incinerating the enemy, just like what Arihnda Pryce of Lothal did in Thrawn. Unless you want to frame someone else for this, an even better way is to jump out by the shield and get close to it before launching a bomb through the shield, taking out the surface guns. If they have a base underground/in a cave, their outer defenses would be destroyed unless they have a concealed ion cannon, in this case, have a ship simultaneously pass through the shield at a different spot when the bomb detonates so when they fire franticlly at your bomb-carrier (because they think your ship came in and used its turbolasers instead of dropping a bomb, unless they have a pilot seeinng all this and reporting that it was a bomb so they won't shoot, but then you can use starfighters to blow them up), your other ship can trace the shots back to the guns and blow them up.
There's nothing stopping you from making an inverted shield gate with blades pointed upwards that sits under the shield so the gate will be protected by the shield if it closes.
I want to say that for ground forces they're grounded from the energy effects of the shields. However, starships, aircraft and repulser craft are not. If you look at how the shield gates are designed like airplanes with the energy passing through those rods on the bottom like lightning rods into capacitors that might feed the reactors. Shield gates may act as a symbiotic relationship of energy transfer with the gate absorbing energy around the openning and able to keep the station at full functionality. Just an assumption.
I would love to see some rookie think they can hyperspace ram the shield (not realizing that once he hits lightspeed he stops existing in the physical plane and at that point he'd be a needle to paper even if he *did* hit it) and seeing him get shred to pieces as the gravity well of the planet tears him piece by piece right out of hyperspace.
What a=bugs me is that the death star firing through it had no visible effect on the shield itself, you think there would be some ripple or energy overload or literally anything, but as you showed, the shield is still up and looking exactly the same before and after the deathstar blast. Also, idk why but that triple star destroyer with shield gates was hilarious, imagine if something like that actually existed in universe...
Would there be enough time to reboot the ship before it slams into the ground after sinking through the shield? The distance from the surface to the shield didn't seem that great. But if the ship can pass through like that, they would be vulnerable to Surface-to-Air fire for some time with no real way of defending itself other than it's armour.
I am very curious of how they powered the shield 24/7. Like if it was using earth tech you would need a lot of nuclear reactors. Also how many people commanded the shield gate and the generator. Plus with all of the pilots flying in the ties or in the cruisers how did get all of the fuel in the small cargo ships or did they use special tankers to deliver the fuel.
In Star Wars most of the stuff is powered by some kind of * Material * Reactor. And atleast in Legends there where ships called either Escort Carriers or Tie Tenders which seems to have been replaced by the Gazzanti in canon that could both maintain a squadron or two of ties while also sometimes acting as tankers and anti fighter for capital ships.
I think that the velocity created by the pull of gravity would be too fast for an object to move through the shield. This creates a no win situation for a star ship. it needs to turn off the technology to pass through the shield, yet it also needs the technology so it can move slow enough to pass through the shield.
Answer to poll question: no because you might have to turn off your shields thus opening your self up to anti ship weapons (witch I assume they should have in case something did get through the shield).
4 years late I know... it's the shield type that makes the difference. Gungan shields were deliberately designed to be pushed through, so you could just go slowly enough and you get in, or out. Ray shields are supposed to stop energy thus the proton torpedoes, but in episode 3 on Grievous's ship our heros wouldn't walk through it, perhaps the level of energy or it doesn't do nerves and brain activity any good... Another point about shields is that apparently the planetary shields stop ion cannons going both in and out, becuase why not just start downing ISDs at Hoth and let them crash due to gravity, or vice versa, fire ion cannons from orbit at the shield generator? Ion bolts however are supposed to ignore most kinds of ship shields or at least drain them faster rather than shrug them off outright. Or the ion torpedoes going through the ISDs shields physically or through the shield with the ionizing energy of the explosive to disable it. Some shields though seemed to be one way doors, onscreen with Anakin's N-1 in the hanger bay at Naboo, and the Droidekas. The one surrounding the Death Star at Endor you couldn't even see the shield and couldn't detect it due to active jamming in the frequency used to pick it up, apparently you also couldn't just fire on the shield generator from orbit. The only thing I can conclude through source books and on screen examples is...that shields are not used consistently even when it's supposed to be the same kind of shield. *shrug* Though something that always made me wonder...once the shuttle didn't reach its destination...why wasn't there a massive search or alarm bell? But alass I suppose some plot conveniences must be allowed.
That should be possible. The two extending plates from the shieldgate didnt look like more than durasteel, so I imagine you could pass through it with the correct speed and without any tech that might be repelled from the shield.
6:30 I believe this could work but using a an ISD would be a bad idea as there not structural strong enough to handle that I don’t think. Wouldn’t they just crumble to prices as the ship moved through it?
Legends had a Far Better Way to do this using a more complicated system of using a large amount of shield generators to allow for sections of planetary shields to be deactivated while the nearby section of the planetary defense network focused all their sensors and firepower to prevent unwanted Access. The Coruscant Planetary Shield System had Two layers of shields, which was more complicated but meant it was Almost Completely Impossible to sneak through both layers without being caught. The Empire apparently used this system to great effect to catch Rebel Spies and anyone else trying to enter/leave without permission.
As a mecha otaku, I can some something like a Valkyrie fighter passing through the shield slowly while in battlroid mode. Since it doesn’t use repulsorlifts, it would go right through easily.
There is a more simple way to get rid of the shield. Simply place destroyers on top of the point where the shield generatior is and pund the same location to oblivion. Or even more simple way -- move slowly to a shield and pass the bomb via it and this bomb will fall down and aim at the generator (slow fall with parachute and once its close enogh and away from burneable atmosfere it just goes full speed)
The slow blade penetrates the shield!
awesome reference, and what I was trying to say but worded poorly in the poll question
How much punishment can it take before being overloaded and collapsing?
Lasgun ?
6:33 but wouldn't you have to worry about being "overwhelmed" by enemy firepower while you were waiting to Jello your way through?
Idk why everybody worries about that. Fighter planes make it past flak guns, when gunners are looking at the target, and they know where the plane is heading. I was thinking about using it more for stealth options, like an Endor invasion team scenario, I just used the ISD in the picture for scale/save time. But the main point is that a planet is huge, there would be so man places you could drop in through that would imagine would be relatively undetected. You ever seen video from the ISS, and yet you only see a small part of Earth.
In the novels it’s explained that Alderaan had some of the strongest planetary shields in the galaxy as a pacifist world. But, of course, we all know how that went.
I mean well yeah it’s not everyday the balance of power is suddenly decimated by a flippin Death Star
i like the idea of a huge fork shaped star destroyer that just lands on a planetary shield, and just sits there pumping the atmosphere full of tie fighters
Oh damn that's true
Isn't that kinda what the Gladiator was?
@@subatomicseal7789 I mean like the concept design shown. 3 huge prongs with shield doors and hangars. It just breaches the shield in 3 positions and floods the place with ties.
Yeah
Shield would cause Star Destroyes repursollift to collappse...and explode violently.
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the best point by far: put the gate inside the shield.
It is kind of ironic, all they needed to do was turn the shield gate upside down and would work exactly the same, but be completely protected if they closed the "doors".
The only counterpoint I could see is if the gate was actually resting on the shield, as it doesn't look like it is orbiting, but we have already know that repulsors are extremely common.
Potentially dumb response: pushing up on the shield might not work because you can't push as much of the weight of the gate station, or using repulsors to push it up might just mess with the repulsors, as shields like this apparently don't like repulsors.
@@nilok7 Exactly what I was thinking; also, I'm sure that funding and distribution of assets dictate that you can't always have the best equipment on hand.
Hell, I remember doing fundraising to buy additional gear that Uncle Sam didn't budget for...
An inside shield door might mean they wouldn't have been able to afford a Garrisonon or would have left another asset completely unguarded.
Remember the Imperials had an entire Galaxy to patrol(meaning a lot of assets guarded by Green Personel); where as the resistance could send everything at one target, including their best Veterans.
See how Vader shows up in one Veteran Star Destroyer and the Resistance bugs out!
Uh duh, have a gate on both sides!
6:06 I shall call this the starfish class.
Is this the Galactic Empire? XD
Brown hull plating throughout, bright red around the gates...
Or light pink all over. Everyone fears the Patrick Star.
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And I shall call him Squishy!
You and Thrawn would excellent and amazing military officers.
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Metanerdz and Thrawn would have beers over exploding planets
I’ve always wondered about that shield. Thank you for explaining!
I suppose it would be theoretically possible to just sit on the shield and let gravity pull you in but I feel like doing this would get you shot to Pieces immediately
Defense cannon fired.
Hyper velocity cannon firing.
I really love the concept art of then gate. Hope Lucasfilm reuses them for another planet.
I think the thing from the concept art would work better for a giant shipyard or a planet sized military base.
Like kuat. Or idk where the other giant ring station is.
Ringo Vinda in the Clone Wars is a planetary ring, though we don't see much of it
Talking about shields- what would happen if the malevolence shot a super star destroyer or the Death Star?
Hope neither of them are near a planet.
Eckharts made a video on the super star destroyer and he said he doubts the Malevolence would be able to disable something that big with one blast, which I agree
LOLOL i was searching about the shield gate the other day, how fortunate you did this video Meta. I absolutely agree with you that the shield is generated from the planet itself and not the shield gate, it would take massive amounts of energy and equipment to produce such an energy shield, additionally, i think "the shield is strong enough to deflect any bombardment" and both ray and particle shield, so no tricks in slowly landing some ship or anything else.
I believe that the shield gate interacts with the shield itself by using the same "frequency" of the shield or other more exotic explanation not yet seen in Star Wars.
I don't believe in your other wild theories:
- Backup shield gates lifted from the planet, i believe that they are built in orbit.
- The enemy bringing other shield gates LOLOL
In my opinion the only ways to bring down planetary shields are:
- Sabotage
- Death Star/Starkiller Base
- Torpedo Spheres
Finally, i do like shield gates and their usefulness.
MC-30 spam cuz they have torpedoes for days!
@@aurorathearcticwolf4243 Planetary shields still protect from stuff like asteroids,so it won't work. Torpedo sphere works by locally overwhelming the shield in its weakest point,so it still has limited effectiveness. Although it makes me wonder how Mandator 4 could shoot through
What about a massive ion cannon to bring down the shield.
I'm glad you thought of this to.
You are in command now, Admiral Jabroni.
Am I the only one who red "Steins gate" on the thumbnail at first ?
Anyway thanks a lot for this video, I had many questions about this thing that I thought was inconsitencies
Aaaaand for our next trick, we will be pushing a victory class star destroyer... With a cr90!
That's an imp 1
And that's a Hammerhead, not a CR90.... Fucking scrubs don't even know their ships.
@@spiritofthewolf15x That was their LAST trick.
The thing is if you slowly move through my shield I'll make sure there are some capital grade balsterbolds waiting for you on the other side.
Especially since you would to my knowledge have to drop your shields.
U mean some giant planetary turbolaser platform?
@@aurorathearcticwolf4243 that's the one👍
6:18 I suppose it depends on the ship. Since the shield stops anything moving faster than (let's assume) 2 mph, a ship has get close enough to the barrier, shut down the repellant tech at just the right moment, and then descend past the shield before gravity accelerates it 2+ mph. I don't think a Star Destroyer could accomplish such an infiltration successfully, but maybe an A-wing? The planetary shield's thickness would also play a part.
Mon cal shielding is layered according to legends other things add unknown
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Neat, thanks for telling me :)
Those "Comics" randomly placed on your videos really makes the video Better
YES Thank you! I've been waiting for This!
Great video again! Love the idea of a portable gate to facilitate attacks! Kind of the intergalactic version of a bridging vehicle! I guess the answer to the portable gate, and touching down on the gate to penetrate would be frequency modulation. That’s dangerously close to Star Trek tech though! Plus it again asks us to delve into the science of Star Wars. I’m still involved in several back and forths about this from yesterday’s hyper space ramming scenario!! Yikes!!
I'd say it's not possible to pass through the shield since the speed limitation is only on the droidekas so they can touch the ground and move past obstacles without having to worry about the shield getting in the way. I'd imagine that a planetary shield would have that feature removed since blocking physical objects is the point of the shield. My guess would be that the gate uses the prongs to disrupt the shield within the gate somehow. Either by transmitting a counter signal of some kind or physical disruption of the shield. As for bringing your own gate, it's possible the gate would need coordination or special knowledge of the shield to open a hole. Even if an attacker was able to bring a gate and open a hole, that opening would funnel all of your forces through a single area which would be a huge weak point.
Going slowly like that would make you a target especially with ALL repulsion- type systems disabled (which can in fact include some shields). along with the fact that most ships the gravitational pull may cause an out of control scenario due to the engines taking longer to 'fire up'. most ships especially smaller ones may have issues going slow enough to go through the shield and not be a sitting duck for enemy fighters
I'm not even sure, given what we see that Star Wars ships have sufficient engine power to land or take off from planets without the aid of repulsors.
Even if it could, the moment you do that you're subject to conventional newtonian physics, which means you'll hit the shield at orbital velocity, or would need to slow to a stop relative to the planet then lower yourself through
- which would require continual thrust under the ship equal to the force of gravity of the planet, otherwise you go into freefall.
And while Star Wars ships have substantial engines, I don't think most of them have those under the ship.
Though I suppose you could try a tail down landing...
but in that case you have to hope that the main engines are precise enough to allow for this...
Could the “shield” around the olanet when the devastator arrives now be the atmosphere? Because the rebel pilots were just shooting proton torpedoes at the surface of the shield, it’s all pretty confusing as they were definitely just trying to stop the communication jamming, I’m not sure
The issue I see with just sitting on the shield and letting it sink thru is that during that time, is that the invading forces would be sitting ducks for a dangerously long time, as they'd essentially have to shut down everything to make it through, if the defending force found the ships attempting to invade, they could easily fire at whatever portion of the ship was already through the shield, and destroy it with relative ease, since the shields need to be down for the ship to push through. A friendly force also faces the same issue. As it would be suicide to try passing through the shield with any kind of combat happening in the direct vicinity as the enemy could just fire a few volleys or sortie their fighters to take out the undefended ships as they made the crossing. The only way I could see the strategy working would be using it as a stealth tactic
Great video and your improvement are amazing.
Great and interesting video
I think you could improve it by having a few small gateways small enough to allow transmissions through and a main bigger gate way to allow cargo through, and both gateways being under the shield so they're protected eliminating the need for 100s of TIEs and in the eventuality of a break through just launch some TIE Strikers, and open the smaller ones and call for back up
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To answer your question at the end I think you could do it but it would take so long that it would allow your enemies to prep them selves reenforcements would take longer to get in and the enemy could attack the bottom of your while your trying to get through
Using a hyperspace jump into the planets atmosphere shouldn't work because in legends (and physics) the gravity of the planet would pull you out of hyperspace too soon
Not to mention even if the gravity well didn't disrupt you, hyperspace jumps are canonically so inaccurate that the fact the Falcon didn't come out of hyperspace directly into the side of a mountain is nothing short of a Force-graced miracle... but then again, I guess that applies to 99% of what happened in the sequel movies in the first place lol
that actually makes much more sense, i always thought the shield was destroyed way to easily
I wouldn't have thought even a very slow moving object could pass through as the shield is always moving, being at it is projected from the planet, and the planet is rotating therefore so is the shield projector, and therefore so is the surface of the shield.
You just described a tactic of an enemy canon Thrawn fought AMAZINGLY 😅👍
I'd say you COULD just freefall slowly through the shield. However that is a pretty big risk. What if the shield fucks with your engine, and can't get it on in time? Or maybe something else happens and the engines don't come on in time? The ship turns into a gigantic metal rock. And I highly doubt there is a ship in Star Wars that can survive falling uncontrollably from that height, and do ANY of its intended tasks after hitting the ground.
I liked the legends shields that you had to batter down section by section a bit better, the need for shield gates seems silly by comparison but does offer interesting setpieces.
And I feel like the shield in the AREA went down, but other parts of the shield stayed up. It's essentially replacing the local projector/the flicker effect that TFA introducted by acting as a vent of some kind.
Tecniclly you could use the AT-TEs magnetic feet to hold on to the belly of ships so that a small entring force armed with jetpacks can be send sloly in with cables so that once breached they could try to sneek up on the gatestation and open it or you could just hide them in some space debree and let them enter from there as seen that they could remain for a while into place.
The problem with passing through a shield slowly would be that you are quite vulnerable while doing so. While the battle in Orbit is still raging, you would be a sitting duck for enemy forces and if you have really bad luck, the planet will have its own weapons to take you down as soon as the first part of your ship comes through. Getting hit by an ion canon while in orbit would turn any large combat vessel into a giant rock falling from the sky, while smaller crafts could be taken down by AA guns, Turbolasers or missile launchers.
Nice video and very well explained. Thank you for that.
But the one thing that ACTUALLY bugged me about the shield station was:
Why the hell is it on the outside of the shield?
If it was on the inside it would actually be protected from the enemy forces by the shield itself and wouldn't be as easily destroyed in a siege.
I realize that the Tie-Squadrons and Turbolasers couldn't be used that way but let's be honest:
A small station outside dedicated to Tie Squadrons and outfitted with some Turbolasers could do the same and the gate-station could still open and close the shield if necessary.
Have you heard of the Viscount-class star defender? From what I've heard, it was designed to be as large and powerful as the Executor-class star dreadnought. I would like to know even more than what I know about it already.
Prince Of Pokemon I would as well
Around 17 km long, and from what i read better in every aspect from executor
I think In theory you could have a ship of any size slowly slip though, but the combination of the longer time to pass though, and greater deceleration needed, would likely create an upper practical limit where the shrinking timing window and/or growing energy demands makes multiple smaller crafts more viable
James Vann i think it would be difficult, if not impossible due to the fact that it needs to be done entirely without repulsorlifts. Likely most ships manufactured at the time of Rogue One couldn’t do such a delicate maneuver without repulsorlifts
@@battlesheep2552 fair, but they wouldn't need to forego the use of them entirely, just as they pass though the shield. Even if the tech itself, not it's activation, are the issue it could still be possible to use some sort of tethered repulser tug, but the gate it self suggests that at most they only need some way to retract the repulser into the ship as they passed through
EVA rocket troopers equipped with non-repulsor jetpacks and para gliders deployed by U-Wing or LAAT on the shield edge. Just have them float down near the shield generator. Pop some charges and then hyperspace jump in your fleet into LEO once the shield drops.
Maybe the droids could pass through the shield because they were grounded, but it wouldn't work with a spaceship attempt to move through a planetary shield, unless maybe it was purpose-built like the shieldgate. Maybe the shield gate has some kind of superconducting layer coating the part that comes in contact with the shield, or some other technology that creates an unacceptable cost or vulnerability on most starship, but remains an option for purpose-built vessels like specialized dropships and siege vessels.
There's probably a second shield gate or have some kind of emergency backup plan for when on instead of tie fighters they have tie phantoms after all it is a top secret base.
I still think the Empire could have put the shield gate inside of the shield and it could open it from inside. Better protection and they could have had communication ships or had a way to communicate if the shield was up.
I think it could be done but you would likely burn in atmosphere, and depending on how long it takes to reboot the systems you might just end up blowing up in atmosphere.
I could see small shuttle craft with glide capabilities doing the turn off systems and pass through strategy.
Thanks for putting in a picture off vienna
One good way to breach a planetary shield would be to send in troops similar to Orbital Drop Shock Troopers from Halo, and have them capture or disable the generator on the ground. Then you'd have unlimited access. And if you managed to capture the shield generator, you can deny enemy reinforcements from reaching the surface
The Force Awakens had concept art that had the Resistance use a giant hammer shaped ship that would have smashed itself through the shield of Stsrkiller base and the front would have opened up and deployed the fighters through the shield. One of the many concepts I found interesting in that book.
That would have been so much better than the ridiculous hyperspace inside a gravity well plot
damn that's cool as hell. I just googled it and was able to see pics the brick thing, bulldozer, and Lothal capital building looking thing right? I'll give you a shout-out because that would be a cool metamoment vid
I think it would be best to land some kind of transport on top of the shield then deploy air-assault troopers into battle. They jump on the shield, staying still just long enough to pass through, and then freefall to the height that they need to go to before turning on their jump packs or deploying a parachute.
There maybe different types of shields based on whether oxygen and gasses are designed to pass through. Thus space shields won’t let slow moving things through but ground shields might normally allow atmosphere in to not suffocate troops and as a bi-product allow slow movers in.
There was an instance in battlefront elite squadron where a super star destroyer was used to breach through the shield... Literally a battering ram.
Problems with slowly going through the shield is it leave you massively open to incoming fire. Plus the size of a star destroy trying to let it slowly pass through would take forever and you have no shields or weapons :P
Depends on how long it takes to get your tech back up and running. Penetrating the shields with a ship is not much use if you end up crashing and I doubt the hyper-matter generator is something that can be stopped and started quickly.
Oooooor what about putting the shield gate UNDERNEATH the shield ? Like it opens it from the inside.
From a pure defensive standpoint, it is excellent as when the shield is closed, no one can even touch the planet and shield gate.
The communication problem remains, but could be overlooked with your multiple shieldgates solution or having antennas protruding from the shield (or in worse cases, quickly opening the shield for sos while stopping any incoming starfighter with powerful point-defense system).
Downside would be that you’ld need to open the shield gate to launch fighters AND exterior forces (star destroyers for example) would be stuck to a wall against the ennemies.
Why not just use something like signal lights since it obviously let's visible light through. A ship stationed on the outside of the shield can read the signals and transmit them where needed.
If you just tried to slowly drop the ship past the shield, the planetary forces would have a good amount of time to fire upon your ships while its essentially trapped. Also there would be a bit of a difference from a middle-age siege and this kind of siege. A planet could support its self with food, water and other supplies. It would be a lot harder to starve a planet than a city
It is worth noting that not every shield is the same type of shield. Ray shields for example couldn’t be passed through at any speed, as seen by all the times they get captured by them. And as those are seemingly the stronger ones (super tanks are ray shielded which makes me think it’s probably stronger cuz that thing was their best) it stands to reason planetary shields are also ray shields. I mean they’re covering a planet, not like energy is apparently a problem. Plus if you could go through that easy the shield wouldnt really work that great so it’s reasonable to assume that they went with the impermeable shield version. Ray shields just seem to take more power than the alternative version because they’re always on something with a large power source even though there’s other places they’d be useful. The outlier is the shield we see on Naboo but my theory is that was a gungun (spell check) shield and they’re not used to using that kind of stuff, being underwater and peaceful, so their tech is probably lower. And that movie was filled with plot armor so there’s that. We also see similar shields in the clone wars movie but that generator was like a few feet across, likely planetary shields are whole building complexes. Although I do wonder what would happen if you used a ray shield like Loathsome used his shield. Would it just topple everything in its path? We’ve never seen one expand that I know of so I can’t say. Likely wouldn’t work in a city tho cuz buildings
Used to be that there were two types of shielding:
1) Ray shielding to block lasers and other hazardous energy
2) Particle shielding to block physical objects
When I first saw the droid army walk through the Gungan shield, that was my reasoning.
In Legends, one time Han & Chewie tested the particle shield generator of the _Falcon_ by shutting off the repulsor and sub-light engines to see if she'd hover on just shield strength alone for at least a minute. The Correlian trilogy, I believe.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were specialized landing craft with specially made hulls to allow for insertion through planetary shields. They'd probably need to be specially made for stealth, though, since braking for a slow touchdown on the shield would likely make them easy targets for any patrols.
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With regards to your idea of the split decision (IE who do we take out? The planetary installation or the fleeing ships?), remember that a Star Destroyer is also a carrier, and contains several wings of bombers.
So, the split decision, is irrelevant. You send your bombers after planetary targets and keep the destroyers in orbit to focus on the enemy ships.
The pass through shields were usually ground based or hangers.
Which is by necessity.
From what I understand if Star Wars planetary shields, they’re on a whole other level of strong.
Why have the gate on the outside of the shield? Just have the gate be on the inside of the shield and its gate part raise up to open the shield. I feel like the security of that would be worth not having the extra laser cannon turrets from the gate.
Then if you still want to be able to launch fighters then have hangers that can stick out like he mentioned in the video.
is there any tech that could project a shield from stations in orbit instead? that way, you can create the shield as an offensive weapon in a sense, where you use the shield to prevent the enemy from leaving at all, and use the gates as controlled entry points for your forces
That's a great idea
@@MetaNerdzLore you'd only need to send in missions on your terms. other than that, you could keep a planet totally isolated, and if the stations sit outside the shield itself (possibly overlapping shields to cover weak spots?), the planet under siege couldnt do a single thing
Looking at how the x wings hit the shield and crashed and rolled instead of being vaporized or something, you could maybe land a ship on the shield and shut off, letting the ship drop through then restarting. Might be difficult with a capital ship, you might not be able to restart all the systems on a big ship fast enough.
on that scale, I think the shield would slowly stress the ship causing it to rip apart. I think the sheild gate, is made of some hefty materials, with special reflectors.
Planetary shields operate on different levels and scales. Unlike the other 'star' programs, planetary shields are custom designed and built. They are not "designed" to allow slow moving objects to pass through.
How about creating an artificial meteor cluster to shower the shield to cover squadrons or whole fleets using the bombardment to drift through the shield itself. Thereby creating a multiple direction attack that'd also overwhelm the shield.
The shield technology I mentioned previously is described in the book Wedge's Gambit.
Maybe have the shield oscillate ± a few meters around a set distance from the ground in emergencies. This would prevent anything passing through it no matter how slow since it'll always be hit by the shield rapidly expanding.
I’m just imagining using something like a drop pod from Halo to deliver your troops. Each pod could have a squad in it or something like that.
if i had to guess id say planetary shield technology is more like shields on prison cells that dont let you pass through them then they are shields on the giant gungan dinosaurs. im pretty sure the reason the gungans shields allowed things to pass through them is so they could be mobile. sorta like how the droideka shields worked so the shield would just pass over things like rocks rather then push them away. a planetary shield would have no reason to allow slow moving or stagnant objects through it so i doubt they would.
Best way to take out the shield gate and planetary shield, Mega Maid.
3:48 The Battle Of Vienna *When The WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED*
The problem is, that the shield is not of the same type as Gungan shield. It's not a proper deflector nor anywhere near a deflector. I don't remember what it's classified as but it's more of a kinetic type of energy shielding that is affected by pressure and friction. Likely the same tech they use to keep water out of their habitats. The PSI of the water pressure is enough to keep water out at the depths they've built. And at the same time due to the fluid like manner it's projected, it takes pressure and impact and distributes it in ripples. Like trying to slam something at high velocity into water. It deforms and wobbles, but doesn't break.
On the other hand conventional tech, which includes planetary shielding, deflector and ray shielding doesn't have these same properties. Deflector and Ray shielding are effectively 'walls'. Deflectors are more meant for energy dispersion in a similar manner to an atmosphere. Which is why things such as proton torpedoes and other energy sheathed projectiles pass through most deflectors. To a solid object they cause a certain level of impact and friction. Since they're primarily made to block energy weapons the sheathing takes the impact and is (theoretically) stripped, allowing the rocket, torpedo or what have you to continue on to it's impact target at velocity. It's also why even unshielded fighters such as tie fighters can make direct strikes against a capital class ship's hull. And why The Resistance Bombers were able to directly bomb the First Order Dreadnought in The Last Jedi.
Ray shielding is particle shielding that takes much more energy to project is a much more effective wall shielding. It's usually used on either small scales for hardened tanks and such, shielding that blocks areas vented to vacuum, holding cell or entrapment shielding, Directed protection or in our case here, planetary shielding with likely a secondary deflector layer above or below the main 'body'.
So I think that the shield station uses controlled disruption devices to open the 'gate' and that simply keeping a controlled and slow 'drop' through a planetary shield would just end up with ventral damage of a ship that 'parks' itself on top.
You may be able to get through the shield if you powered down and passed through very slowly, but that makes you a slow defenseless target. Easy for fighters, ships, or surface defenses to take out.
Accept how do you remain slow enough with your magic antigrav device the repulsar lift turned off
I think a large ship could pass through as you described. I'm not sure about a small ship in the Star Wars Universe
A very interesting video meta nerds!
Hey, it's Planet Druidia! And underneath that air shield is 10,000 years of fresh air.
For some reason I've thought that objects with enough mass wouldn't be able to pass through while smaller things going on slower speeds would pass relatively fine. The shield would pretty much bend enough to let something small through but make a ripple of some kind that would be detected on the shield generator controls. I have no proof for any of this though.
I wonder how many shots from a turbo laser a planetary shield can take
Wondering the same thing????
Probably a lot, Alderan's planetary shield withstood the Death Star superlaser for a fraction of a second, which is still impressive
My tactic would be to lock the gate in the open position by using Ion weapons. Think the main batteries of Venators which
are Ion weapons when fitted with plasma. This would fry any control systems in the gate structure and lock it in the open
position
Ned Stanley I never thought about it like that,and it my even make it fall to the planet’s Surface with enough force
@@Centurion0419 the tactict of locking the gate open would also fry their comms systems and therefore lose control and contact at the same time making the base fend for itself. I would use Corvette ships to enter Atmosphere and use attack and fighters to gain air superiority of the base, the sky's and space. I would use interdictors to keep imperial ships from fleeing and to act as control points.
Remember the hyper-bombing thing? Use it here but slow the engines when passing through, after that, detonate and all the blast would be contained within the shield, bouncing off it and towards the surface, incinerating the enemy, just like what Arihnda Pryce of Lothal did in Thrawn.
Unless you want to frame someone else for this, an even better way is to jump out by the shield and get close to it before launching a bomb through the shield, taking out the surface guns. If they have a base underground/in a cave, their outer defenses would be destroyed unless they have a concealed ion cannon, in this case, have a ship simultaneously pass through the shield at a different spot when the bomb detonates so when they fire franticlly at your bomb-carrier (because they think your ship came in and used its turbolasers instead of dropping a bomb, unless they have a pilot seeinng all this and reporting that it was a bomb so they won't shoot, but then you can use starfighters to blow them up), your other ship can trace the shots back to the guns and blow them up.
Very helpful!!
There's nothing stopping you from making an inverted shield gate with blades pointed upwards that sits under the shield so the gate will be protected by the shield if it closes.
I want to say that for ground forces they're grounded from the energy effects of the shields. However, starships, aircraft and repulser craft are not.
If you look at how the shield gates are designed like airplanes with the energy passing through those rods on the bottom like lightning rods into capacitors that might feed the reactors. Shield gates may act as a symbiotic relationship of energy transfer with the gate absorbing energy around the openning and able to keep the station at full functionality. Just an assumption.
I would love to see some rookie think they can hyperspace ram the shield (not realizing that once he hits lightspeed he stops existing in the physical plane and at that point he'd be a needle to paper even if he *did* hit it) and seeing him get shred to pieces as the gravity well of the planet tears him piece by piece right out of hyperspace.
What a=bugs me is that the death star firing through it had no visible effect on the shield itself, you think there would be some ripple or energy overload or literally anything, but as you showed, the shield is still up and looking exactly the same before and after the deathstar blast.
Also, idk why but that triple star destroyer with shield gates was hilarious, imagine if something like that actually existed in universe...
Do all of the praetor line of ships
Would there be enough time to reboot the ship before it slams into the ground after sinking through the shield? The distance from the surface to the shield didn't seem that great. But if the ship can pass through like that, they would be vulnerable to Surface-to-Air fire for some time with no real way of defending itself other than it's armour.
I am very curious of how they powered the shield 24/7. Like if it was using earth tech you would need a lot of nuclear reactors. Also how many people commanded the shield gate and the generator. Plus with all of the pilots flying in the ties or in the cruisers how did get all of the fuel in the small cargo ships or did they use special tankers to deliver the fuel.
In Star Wars most of the stuff is powered by some kind of * Material * Reactor. And atleast in Legends there where ships called either Escort Carriers or Tie Tenders which seems to have been replaced by the Gazzanti in canon that could both maintain a squadron or two of ties while also sometimes acting as tankers and anti fighter for capital ships.
Same way you power a Deathstar maybe?
I think that the velocity created by the pull of gravity would be too fast for an object to move through the shield. This creates a no win situation for a star ship. it needs to turn off the technology to pass through the shield, yet it also needs the technology so it can move slow enough to pass through the shield.
Answer to poll question: no because you might have to turn off your shields thus opening your self up to anti ship weapons (witch I assume they should have in case something did get through the shield).
4 years late I know... it's the shield type that makes the difference. Gungan shields were deliberately designed to be pushed through, so you could just go slowly enough and you get in, or out.
Ray shields are supposed to stop energy thus the proton torpedoes, but in episode 3 on Grievous's ship our heros wouldn't walk through it, perhaps the level of energy or it doesn't do nerves and brain activity any good...
Another point about shields is that apparently the planetary shields stop ion cannons going both in and out, becuase why not just start downing ISDs at Hoth and let them crash due to gravity, or vice versa, fire ion cannons from orbit at the shield generator? Ion bolts however are supposed to ignore most kinds of ship shields or at least drain them faster rather than shrug them off outright. Or the ion torpedoes going through the ISDs shields physically or through the shield with the ionizing energy of the explosive to disable it.
Some shields though seemed to be one way doors, onscreen with Anakin's N-1 in the hanger bay at Naboo, and the Droidekas.
The one surrounding the Death Star at Endor you couldn't even see the shield and couldn't detect it due to active jamming in the frequency used to pick it up, apparently you also couldn't just fire on the shield generator from orbit.
The only thing I can conclude through source books and on screen examples is...that shields are not used consistently even when it's supposed to be the same kind of shield. *shrug*
Though something that always made me wonder...once the shuttle didn't reach its destination...why wasn't there a massive search or alarm bell? But alass I suppose some plot conveniences must be allowed.
Shield got you down? Bounced at the door? Ask a Spaceballs!
OPA breaching pods! A bunch of angry belters running around!
That should be possible. The two extending plates from the shieldgate didnt look like more than durasteel, so I imagine you could pass through it with the correct speed and without any tech that might be repelled from the shield.
If you could manage to be that slow in orbit with out repulsar tech possibly but gravity makes that difficult
6:30 I believe this could work but using a an ISD would be a bad idea as there not structural strong enough to handle that I don’t think. Wouldn’t they just crumble to prices as the ship moved through it?
Legends had a Far Better Way to do this using a more complicated system of using a large amount of shield generators to allow for sections of planetary shields to be deactivated while the nearby section of the planetary defense network focused all their sensors and firepower to prevent unwanted Access. The Coruscant Planetary Shield System had Two layers of shields, which was more complicated but meant it was Almost Completely Impossible to sneak through both layers without being caught. The Empire apparently used this system to great effect to catch Rebel Spies and anyone else trying to enter/leave without permission.
As a mecha otaku, I can some something like a Valkyrie fighter passing through the shield slowly while in battlroid mode. Since it doesn’t use repulsorlifts, it would go right through easily.
I think they had something like that a shield breaches ship in the force awakens art book in the hands of the resistance.
There is a more simple way to get rid of the shield. Simply place destroyers on top of the point where the shield generatior is and pund the same location to oblivion. Or even more simple way -- move slowly to a shield and pass the bomb via it and this bomb will fall down and aim at the generator (slow fall with parachute and once its close enogh and away from burneable atmosfere it just goes full speed)