The thing is in the novelization of The Empire Strikes Back the ion bolts actually did far more damage to the Tyrant than just disabling her power systems and sending the ship spinning out of control from a combination of the kinetic force of the bolts and misfiring engines. In the novel the attack caused heavy physical damage to the ship with multiple large explosions breaching the hull. But then that was before they decided that ion weapons in SW only disabled and didn't outright destroy like they do elsewhere.
That's because an ion bolt is basically plasma encasing heavy ionic energy based on the speed, of the bolt, the size of the bolt, and the max distance the bolt can reach the bolt should not only deactivate on board systems but RIP through the hull of most ships.
Well, it, was less damage from the ion bolt itself, as it was secondary effects on systems (and by malfuctioning systems) on a ship that size trying to maintain position in a gravity well to begin with.
Head Rebel Technician: Well, it took 4 weeks, a lotta elbow grease, negligence of our closest relationships, 3 wampa attacks, and 13 injuries during construction, but we did it everyone. The Echo Base Ion Cannon is finally up and ready! Our accomplishment shall remain a testament of Rebel Can-do for- PA system: Attention! Attention! The Empire has discovered our location! Prepare for evacuation! Head Rebel Technician: :'(
Ahh yes here’s a nice fact The gonk Droid actually powered it using 0000000000000000000.1 of its power if it even used a little bit more it would be more powerful than starkiller base
I was today years old when I found out that 17 of the 30 transport ships fleeing from Hoth were destroyed...... I always assumed it was a hugely successful emergency evacuation!
When it comes to super-weapons, this one is an under-appreciated great. Pound for pound and credit for credit, probably the best investment of any of them too, seeing how well it did against Vader's personal fleet.
What's funny is an ion cannon like this one is impressive not only for its anti electronic warfare but based speed size and max distance of the bolt this thing should be tearing through hulls and giving out insta super cancer. Based on size of the bolt it has a impressive plasma payload and the speed at which it travels indicates I would have a heavy impact on the hull the plasma would then warp the hull and then the heavy ionized energy would wipe out the ships electronics while also delivering a very very large amount of ionized radiation to the ship probably more than the ships hull can normally handle and with multiple hits to the ship the second bolt would do more damage as the shield wouldn't weaken it like it did the first bolt
Remember: "When in need, raid Kaut Drive Yards!!!" That is funny and a good strategy!!! Denial enemy for resource and possible strengthen our own resource!!
I wouldn't be surprised if KDY had a couple Rebel sympathizers on the payroll who conveniently had security/defenses at low alert or in maintenance when the raiders would come in.
@@Seraphil1 In the old EU stuff (around the time the fact files magazine was released) it was all but stated that KDY knowingly sold the alliance multiple of these.
The Ion Cannon is left intact in the Star Wars Marvel comic storyline. Wedge Antellies winds up MIA in the Ion Cannon fighting off Wampas. It was a cool Star Wars comic.
@@minecat1839 would be a wasteful undertaking. Ship might be disabled but still 20,000+ people aboard at least ¾ of them either have or has access to blasters, ammunition, explosives, home field advantage. Even if the ion blasts somehow disable small arms too, fixing bayonets and hand-to-hand combat is very much an option, especially with numerical superiority.
The Ion cannon is also in the old, but great game Star Wars:Rebellion. It is used mainly to allow you to get people off a blockaded planet from what I read. I guess it allows personel to leave without doing a skill check to see if they get captured.
6:52 wow! I never knew that! I have the old Kenner Micro World Ion Cannon playset. It's definitely not screen accurate, but I love it. I always wondered why the designers of the toy chose to have the ion cannon sitting on top of a cylindrical ice tower for that playset design. I figured the answer was simply because it looks cooler and has more play functionality that way. But it seems like they used that Ralph McQuarrie concept image as a reference for the set. The toy looks almost exactly like that drawing. The base even has those same little cut out windows seen in his sketch. That's so cool!
Keep in mind that depending on the plantet size - one cannon will provide very small coverage - to cover a planet size of earth you would need at least 50 or so cannons - without including any co-firing coverage - and it would only get worse the bigger the planet is - there is also cost of not the guns alone - each gun would have to be protected from land attack - so each gun would have to be surrounded by a decent fortification + troops + their support = the cost grows exponentialy...
@@unintentionallydramatic it is worth it, though, capturing supplies or VIPs from enemy ships is always a valuable operation, and for that there's nothing better than a couple of Ion cannons
The ion cannons were also a part of every map in star wars battlefront elite squadron. You could capture a specific control point, and then, after it charged, fire the ion cannon at the enemy capital ship, in order to destroy its shields, allowing for you to finally board it. Though I guess no one really cares about the game that much.
I would like to point out that an ion cannon would indeed cause damage to bio-organic lifeforms. Our bodies have an electrical grid made up of neurons, so getting hit with a high enough charge from an ion cannon could potentially cripple a living creature for life. There may be other factors at play in specific situations, but it's an important factor not to forget about.
Handheld Ion Disruptors can Disintegrate Organic Matter in Star Wars, you could probably convert those cannons to do the same thing to smaller Vong Ships.
Sure, you can’t just “dig it up and bungee it to a ship”, but you could have it mounted to a ship in the first place (like a modified GR-75) and add a retractable grounding spike. When it’s time to leave just pull up the spike and you’re ready to go.
Lol shhhhh that's too logical for star wars. Why don't we see these on every capital ship? Why doesn't every world have a planetary shield? How would ships not develop counters to this, anti-ion tech, something like shooting at the plasma ball to break it up. Lol so many problems with every bit of star wars tech
Never pointed out the Ion Cannon is used in Star Wars: Empire At War games. Though it is just an upgrade and may not see it. Yet when it is used. Double-tap those Imp ships and leave them defenseless lol.
@@codename1176 Well, yes after I did realize that. Yet most times people rarely even bother try to do ground-based combat in SWEAW. As it was far cooler to see the Space Battles. So the Ion Cannon is only seen when it is fired.
@@Qardo Mhh. Depending on what ships you were packing it could debatably be superior to the imperial hypervelocity gun, because it was less likely to miss and would leave a ship defenceless. the HVG would rip medium ships apart but couldnt do a whole lot to bigger ships and in turn, the Ion Cannon would render it immobile and unshielded for your fleet to tear up instead
@@ThatIcy777 B-Wings tho. the ultimate "I Win" card. the ONLY reliable counter to a swarm of them was was boba fett's seismic charges or a missile frigate... if you could keep it safe!
You can also use it and see it in Star Wars Empire at War. In skirmish games while in space the Rebellion can buy an upgrade for an ion cannon shot. And if you play the large-scale galactic battle when you put defenses on your planet if you put down an ion cannon, if any ground battle occurs you will be able to see the ion cannon on the planet.
There was a short comic in one of the Star Wars anthology books, that wasn't officially canon, but I liked to think of it as Head-Canon, where Mon Mothma had a son who was a rebel soldier and fought at Hoth, more specifically, he was one of the troops defending the Ion Cannon and died defending it when Vader himself kicked in the door
I think I prefer the original lore from the early 2000s, back when the Official Star Wars Fact Files were being released. The entries on KDY and the V-150 heavily implied that the Rebels got their Ion Cannons in a way that looked a bit like this: *Alliance Representative walks into KDY sales bureau KDY Sales Rep: Hello, how can I help you? RA Rep: Hi, We'd like to buy some counters to those Star Destroyers you sell to the Empire. KDY Sales Rep: Say no more, we got just the thing for you! THAT is how the Rebels got their V-150s. They just straight up bought them directly from KDY.
Damn you've been really stepping up the measurements in your videos. Props for doing the extra work, also do you just have a spreadsheet of prices and sizes?😂
The ION cannon was always one of my favorite scenes in Empire Strikes Back. I always thought it was cool how it hit the Star Destroyer from the ground and allowed the transport to escape. Star Wars, the magical world all of us loved and enjoyed and still do and will for many years.
A complete planetary shield costs around 6 million credits?!?! If they're so cheap (relative to most capital ships), why don't we see them all over the place? This is yet another frustrating example of how stats, figures and costs in Star Wars don't make much sense. Their rarity would imply much, much higher costs and difficulty in building and operating planetary shields... Yet apparently you could get 25 for the cost of a single ISD?!?
@@MetaNerdzLore That would be a fun video to watch. On that note, while time-consuming, it'd be nice if Lucasfilm/ Disney commissioned a new stats book that tries to reconcile a lot of the crazy numbers and figures we have in Star Wars with the actual lore (and logic in general lol). There's a lot of stuff to update or re-include for the new canon anyways.
Some clone pilots loved the ball turret on the LAAT that after the the clone wars they just wanted to recreate it, and ended up with a big shooting ball
In Empire at War, there is a hidden stat bonus to the V-150 ion cannon. If you have at least one on the surface during a land battle, and you retreat, it automatically lowers the amount of units one would lose during said retreat.
Guess it cannot be pointed that low thanks to its enormous construction. They have to decide, It will be always low, or pointing into the sky... You got it.
I never understood why instead of one massive ion cannon for fleet defense they didnt have smaller versions to repel ground attacks. I mean what General got fired for that one? The planetary shield was able to defend against any planetary bombardment so why not employ better ground defense instead of this behemoth which is good for one thing only and that is protecting evacuation ships. Smaller ion cannons used for both planetary and ground defense would have been smarter. The rebels knew what types of ground attack they would face but had shit ground defenses. One smaller ion cannon would have wreaked havoc with AT-AT and AT-ST attackers considering the longer range of the ion cannons. By building multiple smaller versions their combined firepower would still be a large deterrent to fleets and would have been deadly to ground attacks. Such shortsightedness was almost the end of the rebels.
Rebels: yo we got a planet defender Palpy: which one of my three planet destroy weapons should I use or shall I just use my entire fleet of world destroying ships?
One giant problem with the geosynchronous orbit idea is that at a range of 4000km this would only shoot to about one tenth the altitude of a geosynchronous orbit around an earth equivalent planet.
I don't understand why an ion cannon would be ineffective against the Vong. Biological systems depend on electrical impulses to operate, and a massive ion burst should at least disrupt these signals for a while.
hoths diameter is about half that of Earth, so id say the distance is no more than 2x. although in saying that i would expect the shots to travel close to the speed of light (i know that blaster travel slower for many contradicting reasons), and at this speed an observer on the rebellion ship would see the shot travelling slower (than that of an observer on the shot) due to relativity
5:52 17 out of 30 were destroyed??!!! Smh. They should have just had the rebel escort pilots destroyed that ISD's [5:53] bridge with their X-wing's proton torpedoes... The bridge of the ISD is the only place that controls (I think) all of the guns on the ISD so destroying the bridge would have helped. And, there's no secondary command bridge on the ISDs either.
I always loved this cannon. It is basically a giant F U to any ship trying to blockade. But a quick question though. Are you planning on doing other things beside Star Wars? Like continue the Halo vids, or things like Thunderbirds? if not, are projects like the major city on Manaan, or Tantooine a project for future videos?
an awesome weapon, It might not have done a lot of direct damage to a star destroyer. but it left it powerless in orbit and likely on crash course unless they could resort power quickly
having 2 of these cannon mount on 1 big capital flagship may be heavily modified Starhawk-class. I am sure these cannon can knock out the ship with the planet killer cannon, and send in all the commando and druid to take over the ship would not seem impossible now.
Be easy enough to get out of their range of fire to the left or right. So ya, it was pretty much a very, very expensive "one off" ground based weapon. It would be a great orbital platform possibly but still. Come from the far side of the moon or planet then land shock troops so once again- one off. It would be ideal if it could be a network set up globally with no holes in the blockade. Then they have a shield that was similar to the death star to back it up. This planet or moon would basically be impenetrable. Yet, once again the invading force could merely wait you out because a frozen planet like Hoth wouldn't survive long without logistics from off world sources.
Hadnt thought about this before, but it should have still been effective against the vong. It scrambles electricals. That should also still apply to organics. Unless intercepted, it really should be like gods taser to organic craft/beings/systems....
Hold up, planetary shields are only 6M credits?! Elon, make it happen! Generation Tech calculated that 1 credit is about $1 so let’s make this happen!!
Your math on the speed of those ion shots could've probably been easier. If you have the size of that canon, you can just use the footage of it firing to measure the distance it covers in that short period of time and get the velocity. guessing the distance to the destroyer seems really iffy. Hoth is much smaller than earth, so comparing an image the way you did is going to make it horribly inacurrate.
The thing only cost 1.5m at max but it could easily disable multiple ships that costs 150m each. I'd say that's one impressive return on investment. If it's paired with a similar system that does regular dmg like a sized up turbo laser cannon then you have a pretty good defense system for the cost involved.
The Ion Cannon played a starring role in one of Marvel's Star Wars comics in a storyline in which Wedge Antilles and his gunner Jansen end up stranded on Hoth for several months. They shacked up in the Ion Cannon which the Empire never bothered to destroy, dismantle, or even deactivate.
In the radio drama leia told the pilots she was telling the plan to was that for the last transport they would set the cannon to fire on auto and run -which was the one she was getting out on, so i think its possible both that and the one you mention are true that the gun crew couldn't get to the transport so kept firing till the last moment when they set it to overload.
is this intentional?: the optimal range of the gun is 4000 km but a geosynchronous orbit (at least on earth) is at roughly 36000 km height. Did Star Wars screw this up or did you forget a 0 for the range? Or is it normal to operate the gun with space stations outside its optimal range?
You forgot to mention the Empire at War RTS game. Alliance players could build these on their occupied planets and should a space battle ensue above the weapon could be used periodically do disable an enemy ship (more often then not an ISD) for a short period of time, shields and all.
The thing is in the novelization of The Empire Strikes Back the ion bolts actually did far more damage to the Tyrant than just disabling her power systems and sending the ship spinning out of control from a combination of the kinetic force of the bolts and misfiring engines. In the novel the attack caused heavy physical damage to the ship with multiple large explosions breaching the hull. But then that was before they decided that ion weapons in SW only disabled and didn't outright destroy like they do elsewhere.
That's because an ion bolt is basically plasma encasing heavy ionic energy based on the speed, of the bolt, the size of the bolt, and the max distance the bolt can reach the bolt should not only deactivate on board systems but RIP through the hull of most ships.
Well, it, was less damage from the ion bolt itself, as it was secondary effects on systems (and by malfuctioning systems) on a ship that size trying to maintain position in a gravity well to begin with.
Ok. Virgin.... *puts on air pods and walks away*
Vinnie Moretz this is the most virgin comment I have ever seen in my life
@@richardhicks5031 "Ionic"? now isn't that quite 0:08
Head Rebel Technician: Well, it took 4 weeks, a lotta elbow grease, negligence of our closest relationships, 3 wampa attacks, and 13 injuries during construction, but we did it everyone. The Echo Base Ion Cannon is finally up and ready! Our accomplishment shall remain a testament of Rebel Can-do for-
PA system: Attention! Attention! The Empire has discovered our location! Prepare for evacuation!
Head Rebel Technician: :'(
1 Tuan-Tuan died in the making
Yah But that One Star Destroyer was all Like Leeroy Jenkins. Gets Disabled Fleet is all like God Damit Leeroy LOL.
Guess you could say it went tits up?
And people seriously can't understand how the bible was made up.... 🤦♂️
No wonder its OP
Its blessed by the sexiest star wars character: The Gonk Droid
Ahh yes here’s a nice fact The gonk Droid actually powered it using 0000000000000000000.1 of its power if it even used a little bit more it would be more powerful than starkiller base
@@calmgoodfire4662 Heck yeah
***slow suductive GONK***
@@atomicbuttocks i start getting kinky with gonk
@@atomicbuttocks Whoops! Wrong room. Sorry! *quickly closes door and leaves*
I was today years old when I found out that 17 of the 30 transport ships fleeing from Hoth were destroyed......
I always assumed it was a hugely successful emergency evacuation!
that IS successful
It was the darkest day for the rebel alliance, and the greatest day for the 501st.
@@carlosandleon Odds worse than russian roulette: success?
@@WayStedYou I mean usually 0 would have gotten past
same
When you sell weapons to both sides of a war and they both buy:
*STONKS*
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I had to just shake my head and chuckle at this
If Kuat's products are destroying each other both sides will want replacements and Kuat will make money.
Said every weapons dealer ever
The battle at Hoth scene was filmed at Finse in Norway. I think that they had people from the Norwegian Army playing as rebels.
Yes and some as snowtroopers as well. I have a friend from there who says the local old guys were actors for the set of episode v
They had blind people play storm troopers, its the only explanation, as to why they missed all the time
I also heard that they shot from inside while the actors froze on the outside
my view well that’s wrong stormtroopers have incredible accuracy
@@jacktheflash8478 unless they are shooting at plot armor. then they couldnt hit the broadside of a barn from the inside
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Sound Quake fuck you beat me too it
More importantly, why aren't it's shots blue colored?
Lol they're so intense a blue your eye can't process it and to cope our brains percieve it as red/orange.
Jake Yatta yeah your right why aren’t they blue cuz in battlefront 1 the ion shots are blue
Jake Yatta good question
MetaNerdz Lore like how Chuck Norris threw a grenade that killed 50 people then exploded xD
Practical effects in the old movies
That's why the lightsaber was white not blue
“Prepare to fire Giant Boob Nipple Gun!”
Would give ESB a different feel
I have to admit when I was younger and played Battlefront 2 I thought this thing was reverse engineered remains of the death star.
When I was little I thought it was a Trade Federation Core Ship with a gun on the front lol
I see you people had a very good imagination
I just kinda went: “hey it’s a ball with a gun”
When I was little, they made me clean the gunk out of the exhaust fins
@@Elloliott same
KDY Star Destroyer gets electronics fried by KDY ion cannon
*Kuat Drive Yards*
"We can fix that for a "small" price"
lol KDY is the SW universe equivalent of BAE and Thales - selling war material to both sides!
Last time I was this early the empire was the republic
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Last time I was this early Legends was still called the EU
Don't you have better things to be doing than proving your intellect on the internet? Nobody cares dude seriously quit being cringy
Noice comment. Underrated
When it comes to super-weapons, this one is an under-appreciated great. Pound for pound and credit for credit, probably the best investment of any of them too, seeing how well it did against Vader's personal fleet.
What's funny is an ion cannon like this one is impressive not only for its anti electronic warfare but based speed size and max distance of the bolt this thing should be tearing through hulls and giving out insta super cancer.
Based on size of the bolt it has a impressive plasma payload and the speed at which it travels indicates I would have a heavy impact on the hull the plasma would then warp the hull and then the heavy ionized energy would wipe out the ships electronics while also delivering a very very large amount of ionized radiation to the ship probably more than the ships hull can normally handle and with multiple hits to the ship the second bolt would do more damage as the shield wouldn't weaken it like it did the first bolt
Remember: "When in need, raid Kaut Drive Yards!!!" That is funny and a good strategy!!! Denial enemy for resource and possible strengthen our own resource!!
I wouldn't be surprised if KDY had a couple Rebel sympathizers on the payroll who conveniently had security/defenses at low alert or in maintenance when the raiders would come in.
"One cartload of the enemy's provisions is equivalent to twenty of one's own"
@@Seraphil1 In the old EU stuff (around the time the fact files magazine was released) it was all but stated that KDY knowingly sold the alliance multiple of these.
So that's how the Rebels got all the parts for the Starhawks.
The Ion Cannon is left intact in the Star Wars Marvel comic storyline. Wedge Antellies winds up MIA in the Ion Cannon fighting off Wampas. It was a cool Star Wars comic.
Star Destroyer: *minding it's own damn business*
Ion cannon: "I'm about to end this whole bois career"
In Legends the Star Destroyer is stolen by the rebellion and renamed Rebel Dream. So sad 😢
@@minecat1839 would be a wasteful undertaking. Ship might be disabled but still 20,000+ people aboard at least ¾ of them either have or has access to blasters, ammunition, explosives, home field advantage. Even if the ion blasts somehow disable small arms too, fixing bayonets and hand-to-hand combat is very much an option, especially with numerical superiority.
The most expensive mammary gland I've yet seen.
What a boob
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The most dangerous boob in the galaxy
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The Ion cannon is also in the old, but great game Star Wars:Rebellion. It is used mainly to allow you to get people off a blockaded planet from what I read. I guess it allows personel to leave without doing a skill check to see if they get captured.
6:52 wow! I never knew that! I have the old Kenner Micro World Ion Cannon playset. It's definitely not screen accurate, but I love it. I always wondered why the designers of the toy chose to have the ion cannon sitting on top of a cylindrical ice tower for that playset design. I figured the answer was simply because it looks cooler and has more play functionality that way. But it seems like they used that Ralph McQuarrie concept image as a reference for the set. The toy looks almost exactly like that drawing. The base even has those same little cut out windows seen in his sketch. That's so cool!
Ah according to family guy known as "The boob Gun" 😂🔫
Panzer Raven leave it to family guy to be silly
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Yeah saw that one coming
That’s what I said
Actually, they called it the Giant Boob Nipple Gun.
Could you imagine a subjugator class dreadnought with these ion cannons instead of the stock ones
Keep in mind that depending on the plantet size - one cannon will provide very small coverage - to cover a planet size of earth you would need at least 50 or so cannons - without including any co-firing coverage - and it would only get worse the bigger the planet is - there is also cost of not the guns alone - each gun would have to be protected from land attack - so each gun would have to be surrounded by a decent fortification + troops + their support = the cost grows exponentialy...
You really love Ion Cannons, huh.
Ashakari Singh I love defense cannons that leave a mostly intact ship I can salvage for my fleet later
Don’t you mean the giant boob nipple gun?
Well Ion cannons are pretty useful, so what is not to like about those guns, plus they make attacking ships hwlla easier by taking shields down
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Well, the energy requirements are pretty gnarly for one.
@@unintentionallydramatic it is worth it, though, capturing supplies or VIPs from enemy ships is always a valuable operation, and for that there's nothing better than a couple of Ion cannons
The ion cannons were also a part of every map in star wars battlefront elite squadron. You could capture a specific control point, and then, after it charged, fire the ion cannon at the enemy capital ship, in order to destroy its shields, allowing for you to finally board it.
Though I guess no one really cares about the game that much.
I would like to point out that an ion cannon would indeed cause damage to bio-organic lifeforms. Our bodies have an electrical grid made up of neurons, so getting hit with a high enough charge from an ion cannon could potentially cripple a living creature for life. There may be other factors at play in specific situations, but it's an important factor not to forget about.
Not to mention the radiation and the fact ion bolts are generally a plasma ball encasing a payload of heavy ionized energy
Handheld Ion Disruptors can Disintegrate Organic Matter in Star Wars, you could probably convert those cannons to do the same thing to smaller Vong Ships.
Sure, you can’t just “dig it up and bungee it to a ship”, but you could have it mounted to a ship in the first place (like a modified GR-75) and add a retractable grounding spike. When it’s time to leave just pull up the spike and you’re ready to go.
but wouldnt that make it slower than it already is?
Lol shhhhh that's too logical for star wars. Why don't we see these on every capital ship? Why doesn't every world have a planetary shield? How would ships not develop counters to this, anti-ion tech, something like shooting at the plasma ball to break it up. Lol so many problems with every bit of star wars tech
MetaNerdz Lore xD yea thats true! though it would be hilarious to see, a giant ion cannon ball ontop of a GR75 transport
I feel the real issue is that kuat just really really likes to build things. To the point the planet may implode the day kuat drive yards goes under
Kuat: "YOOOOOO, THIS IS LIKE, REALLY NICE"
Never pointed out the Ion Cannon is used in Star Wars: Empire At War games. Though it is just an upgrade and may not see it. Yet when it is used. Double-tap those Imp ships and leave them defenseless lol.
Qardo it’s a building on the ground in ground battles if you built one
@@codename1176 Well, yes after I did realize that. Yet most times people rarely even bother try to do ground-based combat in SWEAW. As it was far cooler to see the Space Battles. So the Ion Cannon is only seen when it is fired.
@@Qardo Mhh. Depending on what ships you were packing it could debatably be superior to the imperial hypervelocity gun, because it was less likely to miss and would leave a ship defenceless.
the HVG would rip medium ships apart but couldnt do a whole lot to bigger ships and in turn, the Ion Cannon would render it immobile and unshielded for your fleet to tear up instead
"ion cannon firing" gave me ptsd
@@ThatIcy777 B-Wings tho.
the ultimate "I Win" card. the ONLY reliable counter to a swarm of them was was boba fett's seismic charges or a missile frigate... if you could keep it safe!
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You can also use it and see it in Star Wars Empire at War. In skirmish games while in space the Rebellion can buy an upgrade for an ion cannon shot. And if you play the large-scale galactic battle when you put defenses on your planet if you put down an ion cannon, if any ground battle occurs you will be able to see the ion cannon on the planet.
Please do not raid Kuat Drive Yards. Every time the Rebellion hits Kuat, they cancel the company picnic that year.
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My loadout Ion cannon + proton torpedo. Paralyzed than finish them off.
lol..."When in need, raid Kuat Drive Yards"
I love this channel for the amount of information they fit into each video and for some reason I really like the little polls on the videos.
Never knew that they had polls, thanks for the heads up.
There was a short comic in one of the Star Wars anthology books, that wasn't officially canon, but I liked to think of it as Head-Canon, where Mon Mothma had a son who was a rebel soldier and fought at Hoth, more specifically, he was one of the troops defending the Ion Cannon and died defending it when Vader himself kicked in the door
I think I prefer the original lore from the early 2000s, back when the Official Star Wars Fact Files were being released. The entries on KDY and the V-150 heavily implied that the Rebels got their Ion Cannons in a way that looked a bit like this:
*Alliance Representative walks into KDY sales bureau
KDY Sales Rep: Hello, how can I help you?
RA Rep: Hi, We'd like to buy some counters to those Star Destroyers you sell to the Empire.
KDY Sales Rep: Say no more, we got just the thing for you!
THAT is how the Rebels got their V-150s. They just straight up bought them directly from KDY.
Damn you've been really stepping up the measurements in your videos. Props for doing the extra work, also do you just have a spreadsheet of prices and sizes?😂
Or as I call it, THE NIPPLE-ATOR
SPACE BOOB!!
It's a hoth cannon
It's the giant boob nipple gun
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Where's the other one?
@@The_Str4nger I was looking for that
The ION cannon was always one of my favorite scenes in Empire Strikes Back. I always thought it was cool how it hit the Star Destroyer from the ground and allowed the transport to escape. Star Wars, the magical world all of us loved and enjoyed and still do and will for many years.
So glad I stumbled onto your videos. Super solid content. Cheers from Canada!
"The first transport is away....................... the first transport is away" *Echo Base rebels cheering*
warhammernerd52 I think the Battle Of Hoth was probably inspired to some degree by the evacuation of Dunkirk in WW2
Bro I swear you ask the the questions I didn’t know I wanted to know
*Guy who designed it back in 1980* : I just made it look like a boob, but this is cool, I guess...
A complete planetary shield costs around 6 million credits?!?! If they're so cheap (relative to most capital ships), why don't we see them all over the place? This is yet another frustrating example of how stats, figures and costs in Star Wars don't make much sense. Their rarity would imply much, much higher costs and difficulty in building and operating planetary shields... Yet apparently you could get 25 for the cost of a single ISD?!?
Yeah I agree it is pretty silly. I keep meaning to make a list of all these lore breaking stats to make a vid
@@MetaNerdzLore That would be a fun video to watch. On that note, while time-consuming, it'd be nice if Lucasfilm/ Disney commissioned a new stats book that tries to reconcile a lot of the crazy numbers and figures we have in Star Wars with the actual lore (and logic in general lol). There's a lot of stuff to update or re-include for the new canon anyways.
Some clone pilots loved the ball turret on the LAAT that after the the clone wars they just wanted to recreate it, and ended up with a big shooting ball
I never knew this gun was that big.
In Empire at War, there is a hidden stat bonus to the V-150 ion cannon. If you have at least one on the surface during a land battle, and you retreat, it automatically lowers the amount of units one would lose during said retreat.
In 1980 when I was 11 I asked why didn't they just point this at the snow Walkers and still ask that same question at 50 years old today
Guess it cannot be pointed that low thanks to its enormous construction. They have to decide, It will be always low, or pointing into the sky... You got it.
Geostationary orbit for Earth-sized planets is about 36,000 kilometers above the equator, putting it well beyond the optimal range for that thing.
Don’t have anything to say just keep up the great work meta!
Lol thanks!
Maybe they had a space UHAUL?
I never understood why instead of one massive ion cannon for fleet defense they didnt have smaller versions to repel ground attacks. I mean what General got fired for that one? The planetary shield was able to defend against any planetary bombardment so why not employ better ground defense instead of this behemoth which is good for one thing only and that is protecting evacuation ships. Smaller ion cannons used for both planetary and ground defense would have been smarter. The rebels knew what types of ground attack they would face but had shit ground defenses. One smaller ion cannon would have wreaked havoc with AT-AT and AT-ST attackers considering the longer range of the ion cannons. By building multiple smaller versions their combined firepower would still be a large deterrent to fleets and would have been deadly to ground attacks. Such shortsightedness was almost the end of the rebels.
*Ion cannon: exists?*
*Death Star: hold my blaster*
Rebels: yo we got a planet defender
Palpy: which one of my three planet destroy weapons should I use or shall I just use my entire fleet of world destroying ships?
One giant problem with the geosynchronous orbit idea is that at a range of 4000km this would only shoot to about one tenth the altitude of a geosynchronous orbit around an earth equivalent planet.
I don't understand why an ion cannon would be ineffective against the Vong. Biological systems depend on electrical impulses to operate, and a massive ion burst should at least disrupt these signals for a while.
hoths diameter is about half that of Earth, so id say the distance is no more than 2x.
although in saying that i would expect the shots to travel close to the speed of light (i know that blaster travel slower for many contradicting reasons), and at this speed an observer on the rebellion ship would see the shot travelling slower (than that of an observer on the shot) due to relativity
The cannon is 1.5 mil and a star destroyer is 150 mil wouldn't just making 100 of those be cheaper than one star destroyer?
Yeah that is really silly to me especially when you consider how powerful it would be on a star destroyer
How it compares to turbolasers?
5:52 17 out of 30 were destroyed??!!! Smh. They should have just had the rebel escort pilots destroyed that ISD's [5:53] bridge with their X-wing's proton torpedoes... The bridge of the ISD is the only place that controls (I think) all of the guns on the ISD so destroying the bridge would have helped. And, there's no secondary command bridge on the ISDs either.
So the Ion Cannon had an exterior made from " Permacite " the galaxies toughest material....was the Shield Generator made of Permacite ?
I always loved this cannon. It is basically a giant F U to any ship trying to blockade.
But a quick question though. Are you planning on doing other things beside Star Wars? Like continue the Halo vids, or things like Thunderbirds?
if not, are projects like the major city on Manaan, or Tantooine a project for future videos?
So was it worth the credits?
Well we didn't exactly buy it...
Nobady:
Star Wars: 2 Ion-Canons on a Mon Calamari Ship
Why am I thinking of the hero ship from _Battle beyond the Stars_ ??
In cannon the one in echo base was left intact but when they when back to get it the internals were destroyed. The source is The Rebel Files.
an awesome weapon, It might not have done a lot of direct damage to a star destroyer. but it left it powerless in orbit and likely on crash course unless they could resort power quickly
having 2 of these cannon mount on 1 big capital flagship may be heavily modified Starhawk-class. I am sure these cannon can knock out the ship with the planet killer cannon, and send in all the commando and druid to take over the ship would not seem impossible now.
Be easy enough to get out of their range of fire to the left or right. So ya, it was pretty much a very, very expensive "one off" ground based weapon. It would be a great orbital platform possibly but still. Come from the far side of the moon or planet then land shock troops so once again- one off.
It would be ideal if it could be a network set up globally with no holes in the blockade. Then they have a shield that was similar to the death star to back it up. This planet or moon would basically be impenetrable. Yet, once again the invading force could merely wait you out because a frozen planet like Hoth wouldn't survive long without logistics from off world sources.
This thing is powered by gonk droids. I love it.
Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever been THIS early. It’s like that time I screamed It’s a trap!! before the quote was coined.
Prediction: Maybe it was already there?
How convenient
Hadnt thought about this before, but it should have still been effective against the vong. It scrambles electricals. That should also still apply to organics. Unless intercepted, it really should be like gods taser to organic craft/beings/systems....
a super transport? what type of ship would something like that be? maybe something around the size of an acclamator or something.
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Transport_series
Edit: Only picture. starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Transport_XI
I was wondering why the Ion Cannon in Rebel Strike was mounted on such a tall base. I had no idea it was based off the concept art
Hold up, planetary shields are only 6M credits?! Elon, make it happen! Generation Tech calculated that 1 credit is about $1 so let’s make this happen!!
Your math on the speed of those ion shots could've probably been easier. If you have the size of that canon, you can just use the footage of it firing to measure the distance it covers in that short period of time and get the velocity.
guessing the distance to the destroyer seems really iffy. Hoth is much smaller than earth, so comparing an image the way you did is going to make it horribly inacurrate.
The thing only cost 1.5m at max but it could easily disable multiple ships that costs 150m each. I'd say that's one impressive return on investment. If it's paired with a similar system that does regular dmg like a sized up turbo laser cannon then you have a pretty good defense system for the cost involved.
500K to 1.5 mil credits for an Ion Cannon?
That would be pretty useful for disabling warships so that they are much easier to capture.
There are a ton of ion cannons in star wars Elite squadron
And in renegade squadron it has a cameo during the evacuation of hoth
"Rebellions take guts, resourcefulness, and alarmingly powerful surface-to-orbit defense systems."
Further proof the Gonk Droid is the real hero of star wars.
My favorite Star Wars heavy artillery.
that "bungeecord it" just killed me!!! xD, great video!!!!!
The Ion Cannon played a starring role in one of Marvel's Star Wars comics in a storyline in which Wedge Antilles and his gunner Jansen end up stranded on Hoth for several months. They shacked up in the Ion Cannon which the Empire never bothered to destroy, dismantle, or even deactivate.
In the radio drama leia told the pilots she was telling the plan to was that for the last transport they would set the cannon to fire on auto and run -which was the one she was getting out on, so i think its possible both that and the one you mention are true that the gun crew couldn't get to the transport so kept firing till the last moment when they set it to overload.
V-150: *costs 1.5 million credits*
You (paraphrased): that’s expensive
SWTOR player: hold my beer
Could this thing be installed on a dreadnought, like the belator or super star destroyer?
I love your video keep up good work
Thanks I'll keep em coming
OK :)
The universe sandbox part was a chef kiss
Do a video on the droids that jar jar and mace fought to save the queen
If only school were this cool
Its also in “Star Wars: Rebellion” (PC). LNR maybe?
is this intentional?: the optimal range of the gun is 4000 km but a geosynchronous orbit (at least on earth) is at roughly 36000 km height. Did Star Wars screw this up or did you forget a 0 for the range? Or is it normal to operate the gun with space stations outside its optimal range?
I was listening to this while building my lego tie, and i hear double tap and get confused for a second
Two taps and Honey will save you hundreds of dollars...
You forgot to mention the Empire at War RTS game. Alliance players could build these on their occupied planets and should a space battle ensue above the weapon could be used periodically do disable an enemy ship (more often then not an ISD) for a short period of time, shields and all.
Ion cannons are so op and cool
Not enough to defend Hoth tho
When swollen, it fires a quantum lacto-ion blast or a steady stream...
Another great video as always!!!
I really want to know what happens if you shoot the deathstar with one