Yvan suggested I do this after I did a smaller travel trailer. I had a red Toyota come into the shop that was oxidized pretty badly. Remember, those were single stage from the factory. I used straight APC and a 3M gray scuff pad and it worked like a charm. Literally cut my time in half! Thanks, Sir!
Wow I didn't know any of that on single stage paint. I must have got incredibly lucky. A 1937 fire chiefs fire truck turned out beautifully after compounding heavily oxidized paint. Whew! It still looks great after 2 years. I've got lots more to learn! Thx for the video.
Thank you for always keeping me thinking! I have never derailed boats with gel coat but I do live by a large lake so this will be important knowledge for me to learn. I hope your doing well!
At first I thought "what do you mean, you're not going to show me" when I skimmed the chapter previews. Then I listened, and this was actually a really good video. Thanks for not feeling compelled to mix in a bunch of dumb sound effects and unnecessary transitions, etc. - and for staying on-point, just presenting useful information. This is legit quality content. :D
Yvan typically makes an effort not to promote or knock any products by name on this channel. Whether or not my comment is allowed is up to him. I've found Sonax Cutmax to be a great compound for chalky RV gel coat. It will need a finish polish or AIO though after the cutting step. 3D ACA 500 is another good cutter.
Thank you for this Yvan! I've not yet gotten into this but at least it'll be in the back if my mind. And trying to accept non perfection is hard but we still do our best
Yvan, I just got in a 2014 Silverado that was basically a disaster detail. The plastic door panels are scratched up to the point that they look dirty from afar. Can you polish some of these out with the gold standard polish or will solution finish work on this to bring the color back to being more even?
Hey Yvan! Do you generally recommend auto detailers branching out into other vehicles? (Marine, RV, Agriculture) If so, I'd love to see more content from you regarding different vehicle types. Not only technique but the business side of getting into it and marketing to owners of these vehicles. Thanks as always!
I second that! Like what you said at the end of this video, about products that you can apply to gelcoat that will build the gelcoat up, instead of wet-sanding, etc.
Awesome video! I've heard before that you have to put some kind of acrylic product down on single stage before you can get a ceramic coating to bond to the surface, otherwise it'll just be absorbed into the single stage. Is there any truth to this? If so, what acrylic product would you use prior to coating? Thanks!
I would love to reduce overhead by trying your custom prep spray but the 1/3 acetone scares me. Is it really safe to use that on all surfaces of a boat? I used acetone to remove a scuff mark once and it left a yellow stain (from a yellow towel). Do you think a mixture of rinseless wash and isopropyl alcohol could also work effectively but be a little safer? I work on boats outdoors in the sun by the way
Is this true for headlights? I been using the Cerekote headlight restoration kit n sanding by hand but would like to use my 2 or 3 inch polisher to speed up the process if possible.
When it comes to panel prep - can I replace Windex with something else? This glass cleaner is not available in my country. I found that there is a glass cleaner with ammonia but also with silicone, I guess it's not the best substitute. I wonder if mixture of acetone and IPA will be too aggresive for paint.
Great video....if someone doesn't want ceramic coating what are some good wax/sealant products that can prevent oxidation for 6 months of so? For a daily driven car?
How do you know if a single stage paint or gel coat is too far oxidized for compounding or wet sanding, and better to consider adding techniques? I am used to making test sections, but in this case I would only sand through to primer/bare metal?
@@Detailers-Business-Academy Always starting with the least amount of cut, and then applying heavier cut. My question was about how to know when a coating is too oxidized to cut/sand, before sanding a test spot and finding the oxidization still there?
Hey Yvan I have some all clean and was seeing if I’d keep the all clean straight or should I dilute it? Is so to diluting it what would you recommend for a ratio?
Would a magic eraser work just as well as a non abrasive dish sponge? With light to medium light pressure? I have a white oxidize 92 Mercedes that I’ll be doing here soon
Lmao this is poor advice from an auto detailer. Gel coat oxidization can not be eliminated by using a scrubber and some apc. You can smooth the surface sure, then polish it but unless you are wet sanding or going hard with heavy cut, oxidization will return within months. We call this a hack job in the boat detailing world.
It doesn't sound like you comprehended to the video very well....he said do the scrubbing before grabbing the polisher, not in place of it....basically knocking down a lot of the rough oxidation first so it'll polish better and easier. He even shared ways to double check to make sure the oxidation is removed rather than just hidden with oils.
Yvan suggested I do this after I did a smaller travel trailer. I had a red Toyota come into the shop that was oxidized pretty badly. Remember, those were single stage from the factory. I used straight APC and a 3M gray scuff pad and it worked like a charm. Literally cut my time in half! Thanks, Sir!
Happy to have helped.
You continue to amaze with your lifelong learning and wisdom.
I appreciate that!
Wow I didn't know any of that on single stage paint. I must have got incredibly lucky. A 1937 fire chiefs fire truck turned out beautifully after compounding heavily oxidized paint. Whew! It still looks great after 2 years. I've got lots more to learn! Thx for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Yvan. I’ve got a friend’s boat in my shop today and was struggling with heavy oxidation. Definitely great timing.
Thank you
Just finished and the 40 year old boat looks like new! Couldn’t have done it without your great advice ( as usual!)
Thank you for always keeping me thinking! I have never derailed boats with gel coat but I do live by a large lake so this will be important knowledge for me to learn. I hope your doing well!
Thank you!
At first I thought "what do you mean, you're not going to show me" when I skimmed the chapter previews. Then I listened, and this was actually a really good video. Thanks for not feeling compelled to mix in a bunch of dumb sound effects and unnecessary transitions, etc. - and for staying on-point, just presenting useful information. This is legit quality content. :D
Thank you.
Merci Yvan. Je n'était pas au courant de cette méthode.
Merci
Very informative as usual Yvan ! Thank you
Glad you liked it!
Love it! Can we get a few reconditions in terms of polished/compounds that you have found that don’t contain said oils/fillers?
Yvan typically makes an effort not to promote or knock any products by name on this channel. Whether or not my comment is allowed is up to him. I've found Sonax Cutmax to be a great compound for chalky RV gel coat. It will need a finish polish or AIO though after the cutting step. 3D ACA 500 is another good cutter.
I prefer not to mention brands here.
We miss you Yvan. When is your next video dropping on this channel. Seems and feels like an eternity.
Hopefully sooner than later
Thank you for this Yvan! I've not yet gotten into this but at least it'll be in the back if my mind. And trying to accept non perfection is hard but we still do our best
You can do it!
Sage advice, my friend.
Glad you think so!
Fantastic information. Thank you very much.
Thank you
You know your stuff! How do you curl the ends of your moustache though? 😢
Thank you, it been like this for several decades, it knows where to go.
Which DA polisher size is most versatile for DIY detailer and weekend warriors?
21mm
Another masterpiece tutorial!
Thank you! Cheers!
Yvan, I just got in a 2014 Silverado that was basically a disaster detail. The plastic door panels are scratched up to the point that they look dirty from afar. Can you polish some of these out with the gold standard polish or will solution finish work on this to bring the color back to being more even?
Both possible options, do test spots.
Hey Yvan! Do you generally recommend auto detailers branching out into other vehicles? (Marine, RV, Agriculture)
If so, I'd love to see more content from you regarding different vehicle types. Not only technique but the business side of getting into it and marketing to owners of these vehicles.
Thanks as always!
If you need extra work yes.
I second that! Like what you said at the end of this video, about products that you can apply to gelcoat that will build the gelcoat up, instead of wet-sanding, etc.
Awesome video! I've heard before that you have to put some kind of acrylic product down on single stage before you can get a ceramic coating to bond to the surface, otherwise it'll just be absorbed into the single stage. Is there any truth to this? If so, what acrylic product would you use prior to coating? Thanks!
No truth to that.
Very informative, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I would love to reduce overhead by trying your custom prep spray but the 1/3 acetone scares me. Is it really safe to use that on all surfaces of a boat? I used acetone to remove a scuff mark once and it left a yellow stain (from a yellow towel). Do you think a mixture of rinseless wash and isopropyl alcohol could also work effectively but be a little safer? I work on boats outdoors in the sun by the way
Ive never had an issue.
@@Detailers-Business-Academy Ok thanks for the reply. If it works for you, I'll give it a try!
Is this true for headlights? I been using the Cerekote headlight restoration kit n sanding by hand but would like to use my 2 or 3 inch polisher to speed up the process if possible.
Headlights are very similar
Thank to you again for those great advises. Is it true that this homemade acetone/windex mix is a good window cleaner?
Yes, it is!
When it comes to panel prep - can I replace Windex with something else? This glass cleaner is not available in my country. I found that there is a glass cleaner with ammonia but also with silicone, I guess it's not the best substitute. I wonder if mixture of acetone and IPA will be too aggresive for paint.
Silicone isn’t good. IPA and acetone would be too harsh
Great video....if someone doesn't want ceramic coating what are some good wax/sealant products that can prevent oxidation for 6 months of so? For a daily driven car?
Any ceramic sealant
QUICK BEADS/ CERAMIC GLOSS !!!@@Detailers-Business-Academy
Do you have an all purpose cleaner recommendation?
DIY Detail All Clean
Have you used DIY Detail Gold Standard Polish on gel coat?
Works great
How do you know if a single stage paint or gel coat is too far oxidized for compounding or wet sanding, and better to consider adding techniques? I am used to making test sections, but in this case I would only sand through to primer/bare metal?
Start with a light polish.
@@Detailers-Business-Academy Always starting with the least amount of cut, and then applying heavier cut. My question was about how to know when a coating is too oxidized to cut/sand, before sanding a test spot and finding the oxidization still there?
How about painting an old red tractor with spray clear enamel?
It will eventually peel
Hey Yvan I have some all clean and was seeing if I’d keep the all clean straight or should I dilute it? Is so to diluting it what would you recommend for a ratio?
Dilute 15-1
15/1
Would a magic eraser work during the initial wash w degreaser?
Yes, but a no scratch dish sponge works best
Est-ce applicable a du plastique de vtt/motoneige?
Oui.
Can this method work on heavily oxidized clear coat or is it a completely different process when dealing with clear coat?
Yes
Would a magic eraser work just as well as a non abrasive dish sponge? With light to medium light pressure? I have a white oxidize 92 Mercedes that I’ll be doing here soon
Not quite.
Just spray it with WD40, ...or not.
Great temporary fix, many people use ATF to send their equipment to auction.
I've actually just look at a 32ft 5th wheel rv that needs gel coat restoring.
Lots of fun!
@@Detailers-Business-Academycustomer don't want polish so I'm guessing a gel coat restorer will work
Third lol, I'll leave a more well written comment after watching
Thank you
First!!!
Thanks
first lol
Unfortunately Humberto beat you by about 6 seconds. Thank you!
@Detailers-Business-Academy
apparently it showed no one had commented just yet. bummer lol😅😅
Humberto is hard to beat.
Lmao this is poor advice from an auto detailer. Gel coat oxidization can not be eliminated by using a scrubber and some apc.
You can smooth the surface sure, then polish it but unless you are wet sanding or going hard with heavy cut, oxidization will return within months.
We call this a hack job in the boat detailing world.
Have you actually tried this? I’ve been doing it this way for over 20 years, and all my customers are satisfied.
It doesn't sound like you comprehended to the video very well....he said do the scrubbing before grabbing the polisher, not in place of it....basically knocking down a lot of the rough oxidation first so it'll polish better and easier. He even shared ways to double check to make sure the oxidation is removed rather than just hidden with oils.
Are you saying to use the scrubby side of the sponge or the sponge side on the initial cleaning? Thank you for this video!