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  • @sandralovecchio7530
    @sandralovecchio7530 12 днів тому +162

    Can we just take a moment to acknowledge how incredible Ador was by not suing 👖 but ask the court to acknowledge the validity of the contract signed by Ador and 👖 this was a mic drop moment

    • @AM-ry4px
      @AM-ry4px 12 днів тому +18

      Lmao the 👖 icon almost killed me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @sushi0085
      @sushi0085 12 днів тому +6

      lol. Never thought ppl fan companies

    • @ruthfischer7615
      @ruthfischer7615 11 днів тому +27

      @@sushi0085
      And we are not.
      We just like that the company - who is in the right - is doing the right/intelligent/clever thing.
      It is mostly on us not liking that the girls and Min think they can do whatever they want and everyone has to believe their claims - while actively hurting other people.

    • @eileencritchley4630
      @eileencritchley4630 11 днів тому

      @@sushi0085 Adults give credit were credit is due. They think things through logically unlike children who make rash judgements because their brains, life experience, and educational level is not completely developed.

    • @venusluv-i1v
      @venusluv-i1v 11 днів тому +2

      This is a tactic by them. Legal issues would make them have to be drawn out for years, interrupting other activities. They aren't being "incredible" at all.

  • @dolinca5730
    @dolinca5730 12 днів тому +89

    Any company that tries to circumvent the exclusive contract that Adore has with NJ will be sued for “Tortious Interference” meaning they are helping the artist to breach their contract. This is a very serious issue in contract law…..a BIG NO NO! It is to deter outside entities from getting involved in contract disputes🤨

    • @heykay5610
      @heykay5610 12 днів тому +6

      Does that include lawyers they hire and any companies that want to buy them out? (I'm a legal assistant myself but I don't know anything about this type of law)

    • @floppy1437
      @floppy1437 11 днів тому +2

      The other party? It would be MHJ herself?

    • @heykay5610
      @heykay5610 11 днів тому +1

      @@floppy1437 Hmmm....probably would include MHJ. Interesting. Maybe that's the point.

    • @Ltor00
      @Ltor00 9 днів тому +1

      @@dolinca5730 so the fact that NJ thinks they can just walk away and start working with these companies on their own means to me they are not getting any legal advice at all.

  • @lexybaginsky
    @lexybaginsky 12 днів тому +148

    I think New Jeans really believe what they say. Full heartedly.
    But I also think they are in for a nasty surprise.
    They may think they have the judge in their pocket but I can't imagine a judge wanting THIS precedent under their name.
    Of course they can get out - but it will cost them a looooooot of money!
    So I am curious but no longer anxious to see the next episode in our favorite K-Drama.

    • @imajinallthepurple
      @imajinallthepurple 12 днів тому +42

      @@lexybaginsky Is there such a thing as annoyed-entertained? Because then that's what I am. 😄

    • @AM-ry4px
      @AM-ry4px 12 днів тому +10

      Watch the scene Dr. strange vs Dormammu, you will understand the ultimate power of being annoying 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @venusluv-i1v
      @venusluv-i1v 11 днів тому +2

      We shall see. NJs mentioned being hara ssed at the company. Most judges are always on the side of corporate What concerns me is how fans are on the side of the corporate powers in this case.

    • @cloudsn
      @cloudsn 11 днів тому +15

      @@venusluv-i1v People are on the side of the victims. The victims are everyone who has suffered from NJs actions. NJs directly caused other groups to be harassed by Bunnies. NJs caused problems for Ador staff, and bullied the new Ador CEO at the NA. If NJs had literally any proof of being harassed, then say it. People wanted to be on their side for so long. Think back to when this started. NJs had ALL the support, from everyone. Yet they had the audacity to even turn down support from JK. They've made their bed, don't feel bad for them having to sleep in it.

    • @AM-ry4px
      @AM-ry4px 11 днів тому +9

      @@cloudsn agreed. Just bring all the evidences to court and let ADOR pay back. They didn’t file any lawsuit against HYPE or ADOR but keep crying to public, caused fans to go after ALL THE OTHER INNOCENT GIRLS. Her fans bullied the manager, staffs, Le and Illit. They cried so much that their tears seem fake now. File the lawsuit like the U.S girl did to JYP, she let the court handle it instead of crying and acting with all the drama, dragged others in to shield themselves. Victim? Hell nah, they caused everything on their own, they deserve whatever comes in the future. It’s their choice

  • @1hotshon
    @1hotshon 12 днів тому +72

    I hate that this situation got this big! That woman really did a number on everyone. It's very cult-like without any rational thinking.

    • @meubemmochi
      @meubemmochi 12 днів тому

      Not only cult like. I've read ( cannot be 100% sure) that the audit have discovered financial misdeeds by some of Mama Roach employees. These would not be " cult followers " but accomplices and she has power over them. My impression is that she built a network of people that she can control using different methods.

    • @swatikumari1992
      @swatikumari1992 11 днів тому +1

      In the end it's hybe losing a valuable asset to the company. L don't think they will demand penalties from them if they leave and they will be able to continue with different careers in future. It was just not meant to be. I hope there will be a amicable resolution for everyone involved.

    • @gv2427
      @gv2427 11 днів тому

      it wasn't just that woman...all these months all the media, youtubers, politicians, shamans, corporations...they all tried to demolish Hybe.....the level of hatred and envy is something unimaginable

    • @powbobs
      @powbobs 11 днів тому +3

      @@swatikumari1992
      You’re hilarious.

    • @Ltor00
      @Ltor00 9 днів тому

      @@1hotshon that it has gotten this big has become a great advantage to Hybe and Ador. No court will let a contract easily be broken when it will literally affect the whole k pop industry. The government just shut down the haters who tried to get the conglomerate status of Hybe revoked.

  • @LivingSweetly
    @LivingSweetly 12 днів тому +64

    ADOR gave them a brilliant UNO reverse by filing to confirm the exclusive contract's validity, which could have significant consequences for NewJeans. By filing for the court to confirm, ADOR has effectively invalidated NewJeans's entire argument. This action will force NewJeans to provide evidence for their accusations, which, interestingly, is nearly identical to the evidence required for the termination of the contract to be successful. If ADOR wins, as they likely will, NewJeans will be forced to return to their contract, removing any grounds for continuing their crusade, media play, and victimhood.

    • @photomaker4502
      @photomaker4502 11 днів тому +1

      What I don’t understand is why Ador wants to keep NJ when they and HYBE have zero intentions of doing anything with them. In an essence that’s a breach of contract. Why keep Newjeans when they will do nothing with the group?

    • @venusluv-i1v
      @venusluv-i1v 11 днів тому

      Hara ssment is hard to prove even in America. NJs mentioned this has happened. This is why so many wm don't come forward. They'll continue activities, but for what? They won't give the same energy. They won't have the same fanbase. In the end, ADOR won't have a choice but to let them go because they won't be making the company any more money. It's not the own you all think it is.

    • @LivingSweetly
      @LivingSweetly 11 днів тому +14

      @@photomaker4502 Your claim is untrue and based on your assumptions. ADOR and HYBE haven't made any statements or taken any actions to support your statement. On the contrary, they have continuously endeavoured to find a positive resolution and get back on track. However, NewJeans refuses to cooperate.

    • @toriahmyworld
      @toriahmyworld 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@photomaker4502the problem with their present and future projects is not with Hybe/ Ador. The girls are refusing to work unless their momma is back to her CEO position.

    • @LivingSweetly
      @LivingSweetly 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@venusluv-i1v There is plenty of information that isn’t available to the public. Perhaps it’s still beneficial for ADOR to continue the contract with them.

  • @SMHorne
    @SMHorne 12 днів тому +39

    It's not about the physical laptop components. It's because the computer is connected to the company's cloud any time it's used. Every single document & keystroke is saved on the company's server. Every email. Every site looked at.
    *Maybe* gold & silicon components of a burnt laptop could be recovered, but in the case of corporate situations, that wouldn't even be necessary.

  • @jughahaha0613
    @jughahaha0613 12 днів тому +57

    Bunnies are getting so brave day by day, and I don't understand why or how. Im positive, they're all out of their minds, as crazy as their mother, MHJ. Imagine the nerve to scare an actual LAWYER. Hahahhaha

    • @bluehourtarot
      @bluehourtarot 12 днів тому

      @@jughahaha0613 The mistake we make about bns is that we think of them as very young people. Many of them are way older with the time and means to just troll and torture everyone. Most fanbases have some older fans but most don’t dedicate themselves to sitting at their computer all day being a menace because they are obsessed with young girls. Ya, I said it. 🥹

    • @TheMPTV
      @TheMPTV 12 днів тому

      these are liberal kids who never know or experience hard work in real life and never contribute to society, they are just online all day mindlessly watching kpop and kdramas

    • @ruthfischer7615
      @ruthfischer7615 11 днів тому +2

      Because their story builts on each other while agreeing to it another makes up/interprets it as more which in turn happens with the next person and so on till it lands in the original persons hand and they will never understand that this new statment is made out of their first idea.

  • @RainDropDrop22
    @RainDropDrop22 12 днів тому +131

    OLD SHORTS!!😂😂😂😂 I was like who's they😂😂😂

    • @imajinallthepurple
      @imajinallthepurple 12 днів тому +23

      Ngl, it took me a couple of seconds too. 😂

    • @cia0101581
      @cia0101581 12 днів тому +17

      Who is Old Shorts? I just woke up and I’m only on my second cup of coffee

    • @imajinallthepurple
      @imajinallthepurple 12 днів тому

      @@cia0101581 Mamma Roach's kids

    • @marar8045
      @marar8045 12 днів тому +14

      I’m ashamed to admit it took me longer than it should’ve to click 😂

    • @JO-qn8gy
      @JO-qn8gy 12 днів тому

      DirtyPants

  • @BillyWhaler
    @BillyWhaler 12 днів тому +68

    Next…NJ complains that the radio station elevator was intentionally slow and disrespectful. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @venusluv-i1v
      @venusluv-i1v 11 днів тому

      I don't think any of that compares to the SA.

    • @stephaniemathurin473
      @stephaniemathurin473 11 днів тому +6

      ​@@venusluv-i1v.....Ok MHJ 😂😂😂😂

    • @venusluv-i1v
      @venusluv-i1v 11 днів тому

      @@stephaniemathurin473 Gee, I didn't know you worked for HYBE, BOT.

  • @tipennya
    @tipennya 12 днів тому +45

    🤣Lol! "Old Shorts"!! I call them Raggedy Pants! 😂

    • @JhonjikanNabong
      @JhonjikanNabong 11 днів тому

      bec tjeybhave ragged characters....

    • @dnotnicemostdays
      @dnotnicemostdays 10 днів тому

      This is all I'm going to call them going forward lol

  • @jeremullen3721
    @jeremullen3721 11 днів тому +12

    After seeing them being called Old Shorts I will never think of them as New Jeans again.

  • @AlexaOleksa
    @AlexaOleksa 12 днів тому +40

    16:22 not only the manager is lower ranking in company, the manager was from OTHER company that has no authority whatsoever over Adore. This is so ridiculous

  • @TheMPTV
    @TheMPTV 12 днів тому +14

    everyone is gonna make fun and laugh at New Jeans when the court rule that they need to work their contract, and they deserve the embarassment!

  • @Literally_dangeleeen
    @Literally_dangeleeen 12 днів тому +32

    If they sued the lawyer for talking about the case , it wouldn't work out anyway since the case is a public case ,if they sued him they would have to sue everyone who's talking about the case lawyer or not

    • @karenheepsheeps4676
      @karenheepsheeps4676 12 днів тому +11

      @@Literally_dangeleeen they trying to do what mama witch does am suing you every time she caught out or not liking the truth been showing to the public

    • @eileencritchley4630
      @eileencritchley4630 12 днів тому

      @@karenheepsheeps4676 Yes they think they can bully a lawyer what idiots they are.

    • @ruthfischer7615
      @ruthfischer7615 11 днів тому +3

      They have threatened to sue different news outlets since the beginning.
      HYBE Boy made a vid or two about it. The one is the one with the gag order in the title is likely the one you will want to watch.

    • @Literally_dangeleeen
      @Literally_dangeleeen 11 днів тому +4

      @@ruthfischer7615 it's a public case so they wouldn't win that case anyways , especially going off of words and articles they put out themselves , essentially it's free of speech if you know SK has that law , being in the same age range as new jeans , some of this stuff is common sense idk why they are acting so clueless, and like I get what they mean why they hate when older people call them ignorant because they're young, because I fight that with my family all the time , just because I'm young doesn't mean I'm stupid,(I'm 20 btw) , but Jesus Christ kids , this is why you should stay in school💀💀💀, also I work in music too, Im a music major (instrumental) I study classical music , I haven't worked in like really big cooperations yet , but I've worked for well known gospel artists and even been in a music video , for people saying that new jeans aren't legally binded to their contracts is stupid , all contracts are legal , people who are married go to court for their contracts , it doesn't make a difference what their contract says , they will still have to go to court to prove their claims

    • @ruthfischer7615
      @ruthfischer7615 11 днів тому

      @@Literally_dangeleeen 💜

  • @NoraBee-g5b
    @NoraBee-g5b 12 днів тому +73

    New jeans are being destroyed by mhj, their parents and lawyers. It doesnt help they apparently can’t read.

  • @CindyDoroshuk
    @CindyDoroshuk 12 днів тому +31

    Even if NJ wins (highly unlikely), and works with MHJ again, what entertainment company, producer, or manager would want to work with this bunch after the trouble they have caused?

    • @eileencritchley4630
      @eileencritchley4630 12 днів тому +1

      As we Brits say 'No one will touch the with a Barge Pole' for those don't know a Barge or Narrow boat using 9ft long pole to push the barge off mud that's some how found it's way into a Canal.

    • @ruthfischer7615
      @ruthfischer7615 11 днів тому +1

      @@eileencritchley4630
      But an outsider might - like from China (Tanacent?) or Arabia maybe from the USA like Warner Music.

    • @CindyDoroshuk
      @CindyDoroshuk 11 днів тому +7

      @@ruthfischer7615 I am from Canada and understand what is going on. I think most in the global entertainment industry will know about this situation, and are probably keeping an eye on what is happening.

    • @pamelakrause9311
      @pamelakrause9311 11 днів тому +2

      ​@ruthfischer7615 management, brand ambassadorships, record deals, advertising, concerts & tours ALL rely on CONTRACTs, NJ and MHJ have shown the Corporate World & the Music Industry Globally (this day & age of the internet everyone knows what is going on, those internal reports HYBE does, every company does for their product base) that they have no respect for legally binding contracts, and are intent on making hostile take over bids... NO COMPANY would risk them pulling the same stunt on them, so there will be no offers. Especially after the investor MHJ approached getting burned and pulling the beans to Dispatch.
      The only hope these girls have for a career is if they pull there heads in, kiss arse to Ador and get back on track under HYBE, who has a good reputation and considered a good investment.

    • @ruthfischer7615
      @ruthfischer7615 11 днів тому +5

      @@CindyDoroshuk
      Absoutly.
      I think the girls need a lesson how K-pop contracts work and that Min is not their "mother" or has their best interest at heart.
      But outsiders might be interested. Especially if they see it as their in into the K-pop market.
      Granted they would have to pay the girls penalty to get them and that is very high.

  • @CaroleMcDonnell
    @CaroleMcDonnell 12 днів тому +28

    Hoping Hybe can somehow get their hands on the laptop Mama Roach and Old Shorts refuse to relinquish.

    • @pamelakrause9311
      @pamelakrause9311 11 днів тому +4

      They don't need to most work computers are backed up on the cloud, everything they do would be available on that back-up.

    • @CaroleMcDonnell
      @CaroleMcDonnell 11 днів тому

      @@pamelakrause9311 hmmmm Most? Not "all", right? so why is Mama Roach not giving up the laptop? She didnt save anything to the cloud?

  • @jarinChong
    @jarinChong 12 днів тому +30

    possibility, the contract might signed with their parents (as some as minor) so 'newjeans' tell your parents to sign the termination, to end this for good, please.
    go to court, do the legal work, it take process and process take time, but anyway, please end it, as it's so bad, right? and go through the consequence, that's it.

  • @susicoco1
    @susicoco1 12 днів тому +27

    Isn't ADOR and Hybe two different entities, so the claim that they were not protected or being disbanded doesnt applies here? Because their contract is with ADOR and they until Sept were under mama roach and the new ceo took over after that. So theres already a correction to that demand??

    • @HieuNguyen0602
      @HieuNguyen0602 12 днів тому +24

      Exactly. ADOR and Hype/Belift/Source Music are different entitities (at least legally) Their whole claim doesn't make any sense in the first place. They blamed ADOR for the leak of their trainee day video, back when they were in Source Music. They blamed ADOR for not dealing with a manager in Belift Lab for ignoring them (when they held no substantial evidence). They blamed ADOR for Min Hee Jin's removal, which was the decision of its board and investors (which included Hype).
      Njs pretended that all their "suffering" stemmed from "neglection" of ADOR, that with a few words, the CEO of ADOR can solve all their problems. But once you realize they're not just one company, the CEO of ADOR can't do anything to deal with their problem.

    • @Literally_dangeleeen
      @Literally_dangeleeen 12 днів тому

      Yes , they are manipulating the media , they do that on purpose to bring hate onto both companies, new jeans are only going against ador , but they keep saying hybe/ador making them one company when they are not , also same thing with them manipulating the media with them saying ador is suing them , ador told them before they just refused , and even so you don't have to tell someone you are suing them because you would get a letter from the court or a phone call , they aren't taking new jeans to court , it's just manipulation of the media and misinformation, they are just taking their contracts to the court to prove that the contracts are still valid , another thing about the lawyer who does analysis on the newjeans case , if they do that , they'll have to sue everyone who is talking about the case

    • @susicoco1
      @susicoco1 11 днів тому +8

      @HieuNguyen0602 I guess this is why they didn't sue, also the obvious not material evidence thing, but the fact that they can't sue ADOR because its separated under HYBE under the law. So the whole inhumane corporation treating them wrong won't apply to their mama's company that treated them so well for 1y and half. Until conveniently someone else took over for 1 week before they went rogue...

    • @Literally_dangeleeen
      @Literally_dangeleeen 11 днів тому +8

      @@HieuNguyen0602 if anything if they have been through all this mistreatment they need to be blaming mhj , because that CEO has not really been working with them, like she's new , so they can't really put their mistreatment on her

  • @komod66
    @komod66 12 днів тому +46

    What happens with the place where the old shorts are staying? That hybe rented out for them.

    • @vybzalways5293
      @vybzalways5293 12 днів тому +30

      Its funny that they still live in the same place paid by Adore,has the same staff paid by Adore,same cars paid by Adore,same security paid by Adore,attend schedules by Adore etc but they claim they terminated their contracts😅😅😅

    • @AM-ry4px
      @AM-ry4px 12 днів тому +21

      They never talked about the luxury place they’ve been living this whole time if you noticed 😂. They only talked about how their dorm was filled with mold, old and small 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @powbobs
      @powbobs 11 днів тому +3

      @@AM-ry4px
      Danielle did a room tour of her room showing how huge and luxurious it was including an expansive view of the Han River.

  • @shasan73
    @shasan73 12 днів тому +25

    It is frustrating how rabbits really can’t be bothered to do research especially when they have mini computers in their hands called Smartphones… even Old Shorts are too dumb to use their smartphones… Old Shorts are kinda Dumb Shorts…. That is why KIDS HAVE TO STAY IN SCHOOL! Otherwise you are going to end up like Dumb Old Shorts…

    • @toriahmyworld
      @toriahmyworld 11 днів тому +3

      Feigning ignorance or in denial to maintain their narratives..

    • @powbobs
      @powbobs 11 днів тому

      @@toriahmyworld
      Literal ignorance.

  • @bourjoism3917
    @bourjoism3917 12 днів тому +57

    New Jeans have already been forgotten I was listening to Gfriend on killing voices these girls are the real deal they already have nearly 800.000 views 👏👏like everyone was waiting for them

    • @Marcondirondirondello
      @Marcondirondirondello 12 днів тому +4

      Stop lying to yourself, just because you don't like NewJeans lmao

    • @chrissturkenboom6080
      @chrissturkenboom6080 12 днів тому

      Yes, GFriend is so good.
      NJ are just bullies.
      Just ban MHJ and NJ for life.
      They give the Korean music industry a bad name.​@@Marcondirondirondello

    • @bluehourtarot
      @bluehourtarot 12 днів тому

      @@bourjoism3917 oh! I can’t wait to watch it!

    • @monotzukokuureshii
      @monotzukokuureshii 12 днів тому

      @@Marcondirondirondello lmao truth every newjeans videos are filled with haters they want to know more about nwjs than us then try so hard to erase nwjs big big impact in 4th gen and 5gen like literally every 5gen groups are inspired by newjeans lol

    • @MoonstoneStarChaser
      @MoonstoneStarChaser 12 днів тому +13

      @@Marcondirondirondellooh dear. We’ve got a blind brick wall here

  • @bourjoism3917
    @bourjoism3917 12 днів тому +25

    New jeans will wake up from their dream state very quickly

  • @rezwhap
    @rezwhap 12 днів тому +15

    5:00 This part about local data recoverability has nothing to do with the $10 of gold in a laptop. Data is recoverable because few employees have the knowledge or even technical permission to issue the right ‘secure erase’ commands to a modern SSD. As you say, the cloud/company server storage might make that useless anyway.

    • @eileencritchley4630
      @eileencritchley4630 12 днів тому +1

      TThere's also IT Disaster recovery people who will retrieve data even from damaged IT equipment eg recovery of data.

  • @ash-r
    @ash-r 12 днів тому +15

    great video, got a bit sidetracked there about the gold 🤣 but overall very informative and entertaining, I've subscribed! I also feel bad for them individually, it's a shame they've opened themselves up to all this stress and potentially not releasing any music for a long time (if they continue fighting), I think they've had some very bad advice when it comes to dealing with real life and the legal system. I'm an old shorts fan, so also a bit sad for us that we won't be seeing any new music from them unless they back down.

  • @susicoco1
    @susicoco1 11 днів тому +7

    All I have learned from when this staryed is that mama roach is good at disturbing media to her favor. And from what I can see the pant girls probably knew the plans to get them out. Probably offered shares and a possibility of being legends and bigger than other artists. Frankly I do agree with mama roach, they are not artists just because they dance in front of a mirror all day. Dedication and hardwork and talent doesnt promise success. A strong base, a spark of something unique, promotions, the right moment in time, and frankly outside help(all their songs are made by other producers, they don't belong to any of them) its what gets the ball rolling. They may be able to put together songs. And mama roach could get her own company and funds....but that spark, that something has been tarnished. Lost to this drama, and frankly the whole she told them to ignore me, its so miniscule, so laughable. Yeah I would also tell my team that Im managing to ignore you, and I would have done it directly to your face, because the hate those girls were getting were due to your mama attacking them and you 5 not speaking for them. In a work environment theres a wall of responsibility and respect thats maintained by both parties, they let their side fall and blamed the ruble on others

  • @skc174
    @skc174 12 днів тому +5

    As always beautiful lady, thank you for your analysis.It is always to the point, well researched and informative. I found it interesting that they gave their employee an hour to turn in their laptop. Going by what happened with MHJ that was a mistake. Where I used to work if you quit or were under investigation or fired you were not allowed to clean anything out of your office. The HR director, and if needed, a security officer would be there to take possession of their equipment and pack up all your possessions.

    • @claudettbruva1996
      @claudettbruva1996 10 днів тому

      True. At my company they even guide you to an office, give you an accompanying officer while they inventory your equipment... if it's complete, you're free to go with the officer to collect your personal belongings at best, if not, you get a notification of an ongoing investigation and are escorted out the door.

  • @lisinbondi1240
    @lisinbondi1240 11 днів тому +5

    The members of old shorts are being mislead by the adults in their lives. As if the KPop industry - all of it - would allow this to happen - the companies and the TV networks will never book them. I don't believe they are separated from Mama Roach emotionally - she is pulling the strings in the background

  • @someonefromCY
    @someonefromCY 12 днів тому +34

    weeeellll on weekend's concert actually performing to a concert without using their NJ name but everybody were calling them NJ, especially when the event was booked by Ador , that seems like a swuing reason.

    • @entropyawylli24
      @entropyawylli24 12 днів тому +10

      Yes big question! Is it allowed to do concerts if they dont use the name NJ? Some bunnies claim that.....

    • @ShirleyWheatley
      @ShirleyWheatley 12 днів тому +24

      ​@entropyawylli24 Absolutely not. They are still under contract to ADOR because you can't unilaterally decide to end a contract. There are legal negotiations involved for settlements and/or the case goes to court. Secondly, any concerts or appearances that were contracted with ADOR are also paid to ADOR because they are the contracted party for these events, not NJ or whatever else they want to call themselves. Thirdly, they will be sued by ADOR if they sign contracts directly with other parties, regardless of the name they use as they are legally still under contract to ADOR.

    • @entropyawylli24
      @entropyawylli24 12 днів тому +12

      @@ShirleyWheatley Yeah...so i thought too!
      So i guess this is going to be used in future court about the validity of the contract....but not to NJs advantage

    • @birdsbuster6732
      @birdsbuster6732 12 днів тому +10

      Because they don't have name yet. Their entitled brats cannot develop a new name under any circumstances. Why? they perform under Ador schedule. Termination contract is not like changing chanel on tv. Those are abide by law regardless of their age. If they want to leave, Just be illegal or pay the bills. 😂

    • @dolinca5730
      @dolinca5730 12 днів тому +14

      @@entropyawylli24No they can’t……they have an EXCLUSIVE contract with Adore……meaning they can only perform content, write, compose, sing, have endorsements THROUGH ADORE ONLY……that is what exclusivity means!

  • @AlexaOleksa
    @AlexaOleksa 12 днів тому +10

    I still wonder that Adore still has to promote and give comeback to NJ, cause if they don't then NJ can say: mistreatment, especially if there is stipulated number of albums in the contract.

    • @ruthfischer7615
      @ruthfischer7615 11 днів тому +1

      For that they will need one - meaning a producer has to have songs for them and they will have to sing those - which is what the girls are not doing since they only accept Min as their producer and Min refused.

    • @powbobs
      @powbobs 11 днів тому +1

      NJ refusing to work negates that.

  • @thewrestlingchick-tamara
    @thewrestlingchick-tamara 12 днів тому +6

    Basically Ador is still going to give NJ another chance after the court has decided with Ador. This is just so pretty on both sides smh. This needs to be a movie 😂

  • @joycegoins8221
    @joycegoins8221 11 днів тому +2

    That employee is guilty of some wrongdoing,HYBE should take action if they retrieve wrongdoing on that laptop.

  • @neil_d.6980
    @neil_d.6980 12 днів тому +25

    Old shorts? 😂😂😂

    • @Lady_pink61
      @Lady_pink61 12 днів тому +6

      New Jeans 👖

    • @AM-ry4px
      @AM-ry4px 12 днів тому +4

      This cracked me up too when I first heard it 😂😂

  • @maafremsayablong
    @maafremsayablong 12 днів тому +29

    I'm a mess, mess, mess, mess, mess, mess, mess

  • @hlubvaj5758
    @hlubvaj5758 10 днів тому +1

    That's what I have been saying. MHJ may claim to be their mama but in the end, the ones who really are concerned about them are their real mom. MHJ can just drop them anytime because they aren't her real kids and she wouldn't have that guilt. A mom would because they raised their kids since in their belly. IDK why these girls are clingy onto her like she birthed them, fed them, changed their diapers, and was their for their first walk.

  • @Ltor00
    @Ltor00 12 днів тому +3

    And I think jyj still can’t appear on tv. (Won’t or are banned?)is that correct or has it recently changed?

    • @tipennya
      @tipennya 12 днів тому +5

      Actually one of them has been popping up lately - Jaejoong - making appearances on some variety shows and UA-cam channels. I think he is trying to be active again. And if I remember correctly, Xia had a song years ago and he was on TV promoting it, I think it's called 'Poison' or 'Danger', something like that

    • @yolandamgulwa4869
      @yolandamgulwa4869 11 днів тому

      They were blacklisted for the last 15 years. Jaejoong, has been more active in the media. He debuted his new girl group, Say My Name a few months ago.

  • @krjf5live
    @krjf5live 9 днів тому +1

    Fault the parents of New Jeans and/or lawyers, especially where minors are concerned. New Jeans is contracted with ADOR. Any business must go through ADOR. All parties can be sued if they try. It's a contract. You have to legally have contract dissolved, and you can't arbitrarily say we're not going to work with you anymore. Did anyone read besides ADOR? New Jeans blew it!!!! Stupidity at its finest.

  • @manta7427
    @manta7427 12 днів тому +8

    Great explanation, thank you!

  • @nicoleloss7987
    @nicoleloss7987 12 днів тому +15

    Great video

  • @bluehourtarot
    @bluehourtarot 12 днів тому +3

    So if I wipe my computer, so I can sell it, my info is still there? If the info is still there, why does memory free up when you delete stuff? I know these are random questions but maybe someone knows 😊

    • @fecktor
      @fecktor 12 днів тому +11

      When you delete a file on your computer, its file's index (or "pointer") is removed (so it can't be accessed) but its actual content remains on the disk, ready to be written over by a later file. It's marked as "free space", because it can be used as "free space" since it's not assigned anymore, but until that happens, programs exists to try to recreate a file by trying to gather all of its original parts to make the file content accessible again (even if there's bits and pieces that started to be overwritten by other, newer files).
      If you want to completely, totally erase a drive's data, you don't just want to format it, you want to "Zero-fill" it; to turn every "bits" on it into a "0". That way, not only the index but also any actual data, old or new, is unrecoverable.
      I'm simplifying but hopefully it helps :)

    • @bluehourtarot
      @bluehourtarot 12 днів тому +1

      @ That’s amazing. Thank you so much!!

    • @fecktor
      @fecktor 12 днів тому +5

      @@bluehourtarot My pleasure! It was a rare instance where my kpop hobby and my work with computers could intersect! :)

    • @bluehourtarot
      @bluehourtarot 12 днів тому

      @@fecktorYes!

    • @jacara6421
      @jacara6421 12 днів тому

      @@fecktor "If you want to completely, totally erase a drive's data, you don't just want to format it, you want to "Zero-fill" it; to turn every "bits" on it into a "0". That way, not only the index but also any actual data, old or new, is unrecoverable."
      But if I trained my son well, in order to do something like that, it takes a few days for that process!???

  • @Виктория-д5ж
    @Виктория-д5ж 12 днів тому +3

    The tail will never wag the dog 😂
    NEVER

  • @rz7966
    @rz7966 12 днів тому +5

    Can You clarify the following:
    1. Is NJ still under contract wirh ADOR (their last show didn't use the group name and I'don't understand why)?
    2. If contract is still valid, at what point does NJ cease to be under contract with ADOR? Will the court decide and set a deadline?
    3. When can NJ sign with a new agency?
    4. After the contract is terminated, can they still perform the songs that were created during the contract with ADOR?
    5. Can NJ buy the rights to those songs from ADOR?

    • @fecktor
      @fecktor 12 днів тому +15

      1. Yes they are still under contract.
      2. The original contract is most likely for 7 years total. Keep in mind that there are not one single contract for "New Jeans", there are several individual contracts, one for each member. To leave this type of contract, they either deal amicably with the company and find some arrangements between themselves to sort this out and stop activities. Alternatively, the group can pay a certain sum of money, either predetermined or based on possible future earnings, as a default to break the contract early. Or if the terms of these contracts are irrevocably broken, a court can decide to terminate it.
      3. They can sign with another company technically anytime, but while they are under exclusive contracts (such as they are), it opens their new agency to basically an automatic lawsuit. Unless the members manage to end their contracts, they won't be able to freely sign with a new agency before it expires (again, most likely 7 years total since it was signed).
      4. No. Everything that was made for them while they were NewJeans is owned by Ador or HYBE. This includes the songs. Preforming them in any kind of professional manner opens them up to copyright lawsuits. While they would be able to sing them in an "un-professional" way, like... a UA-cam livestream, for exemple (like you are able to sing aloud any song without being automatically copyrighted), this probably won't get them anywhere monetary-wise.
      5. Yes, in theory they could! If they can manage to reach such an agreement.
      Hope that helped! :)

    • @ketkikul8739
      @ketkikul8739 12 днів тому

      ​@@fecktorif they are still under contract , what Ador seeking confirmation of even ???
      They terminated contract by signing termination documents in concerned legal office. Ador now applied to get confirmation of this termination from that legal authority .

    • @fecktor
      @fecktor 12 днів тому +21

      @@ketkikul8739 I think you misunderstood the situation. NewJeans is still under contract with Ador because they can't simply announce it was unilaterally broken and start acting as if it doesn't exist anymore. The contract they have with Ador is still valid because no one has broken it. Ador is seeking validation from the courts that the contracts are still valid, despite what NewJeans publicly claimed.
      If you took the time to watch that video, it's explained at 6:23.

    • @rz7966
      @rz7966 12 днів тому +4

      @fecktor Thanks...😊

    • @ketkikul8739
      @ketkikul8739 12 днів тому

      @@fecktor its terminated. If its valid and nothing happened except NJ announcing it in press conference why Ador filed for confirmation ???
      What confirmation Ador looking for if NJ haven't signed anything????

  • @shericet
    @shericet 12 днів тому +3

    Who is old shorts and wbo is mamma roach are those 2 different people

    • @keeyotic
      @keeyotic 12 днів тому +10

      Old shorts - New jeans
      Mama roach - MHJ

    • @shericet
      @shericet 12 днів тому +4

      @keeyotic thank you for clarification

  • @artisticvampire
    @artisticvampire 12 днів тому +8

    I'm just kind of done with it. Without the paperwork its all just meh.

  • @christinamcbride3592
    @christinamcbride3592 10 днів тому +1

    Wait til the big brand endorsement money has to be paid back.....

  • @jaybass3522
    @jaybass3522 9 днів тому

    The reason it is difficult to understand why NewJeans are siding with Min Heejin is because all the information they have shared thus far as "reasons" for terminating their contract are simply justifications. The real reasons are autonomy and money. Autonomy includes artistic freedom, the freedom to form their own identity and direct their own careers, which I think we can all agree every artist should have but most Kpop artists don't. The money is the bigger factor though, and 100% explains the parents' involvement. Kpop artists generally get 10%-20% of profits, split among members. So each NewJeans member is currently receiving 2%-4% of the profits they generate. The sheer amount of money that Ador is making from NewJeans is the real issue, and what sets them apart from other rookie groups. It must seem manifestly unfair to the members that they are not paid in proportion to their contributions. Equity theory tells us that people who believe they are paid unfairly relative to others will demand more, slack off, rationalize the inequity, or quit. MHJ may have been ready and willing to renegotiate those contracts early, but she was removed from the CEO position and the current CEO is probably not willing to renegotiate. So NewJeans is basically slacking off, by doing the bare minimum until their contract is legally terminated.

  • @jhonnymaster4400
    @jhonnymaster4400 12 днів тому +5

    Leave min hee jin!! Go back to ador... please Newjeans!!! Wake up!

  • @banny95ilu
    @banny95ilu 12 днів тому +5

    Who is OLD SHORTS

    • @alicegomez673
      @alicegomez673 12 днів тому +5

      She’s using that name for njs

  • @AmadanMath
    @AmadanMath 12 днів тому

    On HDDs, one had to work hard to remove the data; but in modern SSD drives, on modern OSs, recovery is almost impossible, due to their use of the so-called TRIM technology. If TRIM is enabled (and these days it generally is), the data is erased, with practically no trace, immediately. The main reason for this is actually extending the lifetime of SSD drives, not privacy, but... the end result is, if someone deletes something, it stays deleted. (Unless there is a backup, of course.)

    • @eileencritchley4630
      @eileencritchley4630 12 днів тому +2

      There are still ways to retrieve it but it's costs a lot of money to use the aid the Disaster Recovery Experts.

    • @pamelakrause9311
      @pamelakrause9311 11 днів тому +3

      Every Company these days backs up work laptops on the cloud, it will all be there.

  • @zorinilungtau
    @zorinilungtau 11 днів тому

    Old Short? Old shorts? And then I hollered. 😂😂😂

  • @liokaizer1662
    @liokaizer1662 12 днів тому +3

    Who is "OLD SHORTS"??? Is that meant to be Newjeans' new pseudonym? Surely "NU-GENES" would be more appropriate.

  • @janerogers8201
    @janerogers8201 11 днів тому

    For the first 10 minutes, I scratched my head with, who the heck is Old Shorts?🤣🤣🤣

  • @heykay5610
    @heykay5610 12 днів тому +3

    Do you know how much money New Jeans were paid already? They got super famous for about a year and a half, and had high youtube views, appearances, concerts, etc. Wonder how much money you can make in that short a period. usually idols have a few years of being extremely poor and then if they make it they become millionaires. Are NJ there already?

    • @pamelakrause9311
      @pamelakrause9311 11 днів тому +8

      They were getting a $3 - $5 million dollar salary package under their contract. The clever marketing of them as BTS little sisters is what gave them their early success.

    • @heykay5610
      @heykay5610 11 днів тому

      @@pamelakrause9311 Yeah, I was army and also subscribed to them because of that. Was the several millions from as soon as they signed on, like they would get that every year for the 7 year contract?

    • @toriahmyworld
      @toriahmyworld 11 днів тому +5

      A more than a year of success doesn't guarantee them a lifetime success. The girls should have stayed loyal with Hybe and Ador to prove it wrong.

    • @powbobs
      @powbobs 11 днів тому +1

      They each made about $5 million USD.

    • @toriahmyworld
      @toriahmyworld 11 днів тому +1

      @@powbobs so??!! Their debut success wasn't just because it's out of the girls talent and their fake momma's wonderful idea to make Cookie song as their debut song. They had full support from Hybe for international promotions, BTS keeps mentioning the girls as their little sisters is enough to summon global army.

  • @Betruebeyou8888
    @Betruebeyou8888 11 днів тому +1

    What would happen if NJ can’t afford to leave and stays with Ador but refuses to work during the rest of their contracts.

    • @cmbts7
      @cmbts7 11 днів тому +6

      at this point I don’t think ADOR/HYBE will sue them anytime soon due to the public interest in the case
      if they refuse to work i guess they’ll keep them in the basement and sue them in 5 years once the contract is over for disruption of business, defamation etc etc

  • @Gveze
    @Gveze 12 днів тому +3

    Great video tysm

  • @trcykaufman
    @trcykaufman 12 днів тому +2

    What happened to them ?

  • @mo-music9077
    @mo-music9077 12 днів тому +5

    If... old shorts should legal terminate their contract. Also they did say it publicy they have to give solid evidence first to the court. The validation of the contract takes about 2 years?

    • @ruthfischer7615
      @ruthfischer7615 11 днів тому +3

      No, the court case may take 2 years till it is settled for both sides - it was the case with JYJ.
      That does not mean that if they loose it it will only be those 2 years but the rest of the contract, too, and from the 7 years they have only done a little more than 2 - nevermind the period where they basically refused to work.
      But most likely they can come to the conclusion that the contract is valid but the girls can go... if they pay the penalty or at least begin to pay that off.

  • @nneichan9353
    @nneichan9353 12 днів тому +9

    informative.

  • @micheletrapani2983
    @micheletrapani2983 12 днів тому +6

    Can Adore put a restraining order against Mhj so she has no contact or influence w Njs??

    • @KsenijaHajdu-x3g
      @KsenijaHajdu-x3g 12 днів тому +1

      Mislim, da bo to izredno težko, ker so dekleta trdno na strani Min Heejin!

  • @Sana63688
    @Sana63688 11 днів тому +1

    JYJ never paid any penalty fees btw you're talking out of your ass

  • @mlktss245
    @mlktss245 12 днів тому +1

    Old shorts 😂

  • @JaStar-h2s
    @JaStar-h2s 11 днів тому

    It's funny how in this video you are literally giving examples of a very popular bb, who tried to leave their company, with proofs of how it is almost impossible and how bad consequences they might face, like completely banning them from industry. Let's remember that they claimed their schedules and profits were badly managed, which I think are very valid reasons to leave or at least resign the contract. But in another video, you just make a claim that if any member of bts were mistreated, they would just leave. Just like that bc it's THAT EASY. So weird that with all of your knowledge, you have this assurance in your mind that hybe/bh is different or bts situation is different, and they can just leave without any consequences from industry or company. And bc they're not leaving, they're not saying anything, so it’s ok; they MUST be treated well and fairly by their company. The level of denial is big here.

    • @piasambleben2796
      @piasambleben2796 11 днів тому +2

      BTS contract is with BIGHIT the mann they built the compagni with.Believe me THAT contract is something different all together..

    • @JaStar-h2s
      @JaStar-h2s 11 днів тому

      @@piasambleben2796 how different? you saw that contract?

    • @piasambleben2796
      @piasambleben2796 10 днів тому +1

      @@JaStar-h2s No but This lady actually explained it in a former video

    • @JaStar-h2s
      @JaStar-h2s 10 днів тому

      @@piasambleben2796 But she also didn't see their contract. I want to believe that they can walk away safely after fulfilling their obligations, but we are talking ab kpop industry which has all the tools to destroy idols careers, and it happened many times before, and unfortunately they put too much trust in person who admitted to lying to them and manipulated them at the beginning into thinking that their not popular, and they don't sell good. Yes, that what BSH was doing.

    • @piasambleben2796
      @piasambleben2796 10 днів тому

      @@JaStar-h2s I know ,but I also know that Bang PD told them to get their own layers before they sign the last contract , and he also told in a interview that he doesn't want anything more from them other than for them to explore their arteries, and I don`t believe for a minute ,that their contract is VERY favorable to them,I think there are some clauses in there never seen before

  • @elisroom9506
    @elisroom9506 12 днів тому +4

    i just feel sorry for these kids...

  • @NoraBee-g5b
    @NoraBee-g5b 12 днів тому +1

    You should use their name, regardless how you feel about them.

    • @roguechevelle
      @roguechevelle 12 днів тому +21

      She explained she is doing so to not promote them, when you say brand names/celebrities' names in recordings like youtube the algorithm thinks you are promoting that brand/celebrity and their brand reputation goes up as it's engagement (it's like X in that regard where interacting like reading a tweet about them there is considered engagement whether you dislike them or not). She is also doing so with👖and 🧢 because 🧢has being doing things to get the attention of the k-media to make their names relevant and get headlines about them. She's been doing so around anytime a BTS member or another Hybe artist is having a comeback etc an it doesn't matter to her if it's necessarily "bad" attention as long as people are clicking on articles with the groups name and hers it's engagement and their brand reputation goes up because viewers are giving clicks for it.

    • @truusvanroekel-se7pl
      @truusvanroekel-se7pl 12 днів тому +4

      " ​Do you understand " 😅

  • @CutiePie-v9r
    @CutiePie-v9r 12 днів тому

    Hope NewJeans Wins!

    • @ruthfischer7615
      @ruthfischer7615 11 днів тому +7

      Do you really want K-pop to die?
      Hope you grow up and learn more about the world and the consequences of things.

  • @mo-music9077
    @mo-music9077 12 днів тому +6

    Their security system should be upgraded in layers to access and non acces. 💻 🪳 is also not handed over. Same situation while an audit is legal. Repeating story also and tactic. When you have nothing to hide.....