Ador/HYBE will not do anything unless NJ file a formal/legal termination the contract. Dispatch showing the receipts proven what alot of us know all along that MHJ instigated all of it. What alot of people fail to see NJ girls aren't innocent. It probably them who expect all others to greet them as their expectations for the chairman to greet them in that one elevator ride. These girls are disrespectful and not at all humble.
Ador doesn't need to do anything but wait. Ador will call on NJ to fullfill their contractual duties. Each time NJ refuses, that will be enough for Ador to annull contracts immediately. Also, Ador will keep an eye on use of it's IP (NJ plus all advertising and other contracts they have under Ador). I can't imagine anyone risking legal and financial punishment for unauthorised use of Ador's IP, including eventual personal contracts with NJ members while they are still NJ and under Ador. And they are de facto and de iure under Ador, no matter how they fullishly interprete their contracts termination.
Also, charman of mother company zhybe has nothing to do with Ador, technically. Ador is just one of companies under Hybe umbrella where he is chairman. So he is part of top management of mother company, not of Ador directly. Another weak "argument" from NJ. Hybe and Ador are two separate companies, of which Hybe owns around 90 % + in Ador (since MHJ's shareholders agreement was legally annulled).
@@0xyGen_2.p0 But they ended the contract with Ador...they don't have a contract with Hybe. Hybe has a contract with Ador. Ador holding onto them is actually foolish...because they're going to end up ending the contract *anyway* once NJ does something they don't like. You cannot enforce a contract if the people of said contract refuses to cooperate and why would you want to even try? That's a waste of money. Suing them is a waste of money because they don't have any money to pay you even if you win and it's not like they'll go to jail if they can't pay it.....
@soulanstreets222 you don't understand a thing, love. Contracts are with Ador and contracts are LEGALLY VALID. Both Hybe and Ador have open lawsuits with MHJ, and tampering of NJ is part of these lawsuits. Since whole beginning. However, they needed evidence and Hybe is collecting evidence since they found out what MHJ is doing. While till now it was all about investors she wanted to lure into stealing Ador, after she left Ador, she continued plotting how to steal NJ, and it seems that Davosling is the final proof that Ador needed to finish her legally completely. Now it isn't only embezzlement, industrial espionage, defaming Hybe, breaching contract with Ador, mefia smear campaigns, violating shareholders agreement, etc, but it is also about TAMPERING. While NJ's contract case is separate process, it is at the same time connected to legal processes against MHJ. I hope I managed to explain. Contracts of NJ are still VALID. No doubt at all they are. You are wrong if you believe that NJ's contracts aren't valid anymore. If NJ claim violation of their contracts, they have to prove this violation on court of law. THEY (NJ) have to prove it if they want to leave now. Nobody else. But let me hint you: what will probably happen is that after a while Ador will k1ck out NJ because of NJ's breaches of contracts and girls will very likely pay full or most of the penalty. But right now, Ador doesn't have to do anything because contracts are VALID. They aren't cancelled. They can't be if NJ don't prove their claims with evidence in the court of Law.
@@soulanstreets222 Not really. The girls will have to pay a high penalty if they want to leave. This is an artist contract and the label has put a lot and I mean millions of Dollars into them, their training, their promotion etc. which they have not made back, yet. In SK the label is protected from the loss which means the girls have to pay out the contract till it's end to leave. 3 members of TVXQ sued SM and were let go BUT they had to pay for about a decade from their earnings to SM. It's not a subscription or an artist contract like in the US - because the label puts so much more into their artist: training, housing, feeding (for many years even before debut) etc. and they were paid from the moment of their debut. Girls have to pay about ₩300 billion KRW (about $225 million USD) or so is the guess. As the vid says: You can not terminate the contract like that.
@@BunniesLili well they do, but they just picked that one, which probably suggested by their legal team. I mean financial resource and time are on the side of ADOR. Not so much for NJ girls. Since all the money they earn will go through ADOR first before going into their bank account, and as for time, that is a precious commodity any idols can't afford to lose.
@@RazgrizDavion81 Seems like you don’t understand the situation. Newjeans has already terminated their contracts, it is in their contract that allows them to terminate without seeking a lawsuit. So it is Ador( which is actually Hybe right now ) that has no other option but to file a lawsuit if they want to claim the contract is still valid and has to give proves of contract violation from Newjeans’s side, which they’re is none. That is exactly what NewJeans want because the moment Ador files a lawsuit, it’s gonna backfire cause their is all the proves of Ador’a contract violation, the notable one being the Hybe’s document revealing the plan to ‘Abondone’ the artist/ group and creat a new one, which violates the Artist’s exclusive contract by abondonig them. Another being the failure to take action against third party infringers therefore violating Article 5.4 of the exclusive contract between C(ADOR) and E's (Newjeans) members stipulates that if a third party infringes or interferes with E's (NewJeans) entertainment activities, C(ADOR) is obligated to take necessary measures to eliminate such infringement or interference.
@@BunniesLili The same way works with NJ girls. The only way they can claim their termination is that termination is validated and confirmed by the court. Up to this point all we have is NJ girls saying "terminate" and Ador saying "still valid". Both of which are each side making claim but has not have any legal effect yet since the court hasn't been involved. And do note, since contract is a legal binding between parties involved, just as NJ girls can give ultimatum with 14 days' time limit, Ador can do the exact same action. It's just a matter of whether Ador wants to do it or not and not because they can't. As for what reason, it's up to Ador to decide as well, the same way NJ girls decide to use their reasoning.
The situation looks dire for the members. Today, the Korean Management Federation (KMF) released a lengthy statement addressing the dispute between New Jeans and ADOR. The KMF criticized the group's assertions, labeling them as baseless. This statement is incredibly damaging, as it highlights the serious consequences this conflict could have for the Korean entertainment industry and its investors. KBS World News also did a broadcast highlighting how the members lied. When will the parents realize that their cards have been played and they lost? They are on the brink of losing everything!
They got bad legal advice for sure ( or maybe none at all ). If NJ haven't haven't presented their case for termination of contract via a legal route, then their claims are invalid. And they are STILL carrying out their schedule using ADOR/HYBE staff, production crew, security, etc. This is a very nieve and clumsy move on NJ's part. I can see no other company wishing to work with them after this. Sadly, I think they are done for unless they retract their desire to leave Ador/Hybe.
I don't even think HYBE/Ador would want them. I feel like they will have them finish whatever schedules they have already arranged and shelf the group. Or could sue them for breach of contract. After all they've done, I feel like Ador would have a solid case.
I'd wanna say New Jeans planned it meticulously up until the final night of the ultimatum but the one contradiction was when Danielle mentioned MHJ during that night of termination so to say that she's not the one manipulating behind the scenes is an understatement because NJ clearly are a bunch of headless chickens right now. I mean, you terminate your contract, yet, you STILL do things together as NJ when you don't have the obligations to do these anymore. The only thing NJ need to do is to do it by legal because this is looking like a wasted effort.
@@entropyawylli24 right these people rush to hate the girls without knowing anything nwj didn't terminated their contract yet they just gave them a noti
I think that NJ didn't get legal advice before that press conference. At least no proper one. The only intensive advice they've got is from MHJ, who proved to be notoriously illiterate when it comes to legal matters. I am almost 100 % sure that this was her "advice", because if anyone noted this, they copied exactly how they thought Ador terminated Min's contract. Ador said it is no longer valid since she breached it, and that termination legally stands. What MHJ doesn't understand though is why could Ador do it this way, and why NJ members can't. Why NJ need court's decision but Ador doesn't/didn't (Ador asked for one just in case, but it actually doesn't need a court for confirming termination of contract with MHJ. Why is it so is enough to look in what commercial act stipulates). Because of this fact, and the fact that no law firm would be st00p!d enough to give them such advise, I'm 100 % sure that Min and only Min was "a mastermind" behind this, with her majestic illiteracy in legal matters. Also, if girls had any official legal argumentation for terminating their contracts, it would be presented already on that press conference. But it wasn't presented till today. Contracts are fully valid, if for nothing else, then: 1. NJ violated 14 days timeframe for Ador's respond, which constitutes as serious procedural breach of Law and as a consequence, contracts are valid, according to Korean law regarding business contracts. 2. Since NJ continued their activities under Ador next day after press conference, although they declared termination of contracts earlier at midnight, they de facto and de iure annulled their own declared (legally non valid though) contracts "termination" with that. 3. As Ador sayed: just because of their one-sided feeling that trust was lost, this doesn't constitute as Ador's breach of contracts. Contracts are 100 % valid. 4. And last but not least, one that claims that the other party violated their contracts has to proof these claims on the court. Also, Ador is not stupid. Make no mistake, Ador works patiently and strategically, so Law will continue being on Ador's side. It's not that Ador doesn't want to let NJ go. Ador has to secure that NJ pays penalty when they go. And for this, Ador needs to demonstrate to the court that it indeed did everything for NJ that it should under it's contractual obligations. Rushing solves nothing. This case will sooner or later get it's epilogue in the court. Systematic and methodical approach is how one has to deal with this thing, and Ador is doing great job. NJ has absolutely nothing on Ador to justify contracts termination. Also, be aware of MHJ's game to avoid being found guilty for tempering, because this is what she is focused on now. Now she hides behinds parents of NJ who claim that will personally manage NJ's activities. By what? Stealing Ador's advertisment contract and Ador's IP? Not just NJ but also their parents have been dragged into very dangerous game by MHJ, for if they will really manage NJ, they are literally stealing Ador's property and IP. NJ is Ador's property. Not to mention that they could become part of tempering lawsuit, since they also have link to DavosLink. Anyone touching Ador's IP and/or trying to exploit it without Ador's knowledge or consent will for sure end up in jail and in huge financial debt to Ador.
Hi, where do you get jail from? I haven't heard anyone argue this and it's a civil matter not a criminal one. Or am I missing something? Btw comment above is not Finnish and they thanking you for the good summery. It might be Turkish, I think they use ö.
@Pschokid tampering is criminal offence, I believe , embezzlement is also, so is industrial espionage. The rest is civil. I think this is how it is, who knows better is free to correct me. Just to add that embezzlement often goes to a civil court because this type of financial fraud is hard to prove in terms of criminal law. Not impossible though. Remember that american thing with financial funds.
@Pschokid it doesn't seem Turkish to me and it doesn't seem Hungarian either...dunno, you sure it's Turkish? Also germans use ö but not the accents...dunno. Thank you for help!
I actually think that the girls are not totally indispensable as they believe. Ador can place these girls on indefinite hiatus and then replace them with new girls.
Most people likely have no real understanding of how the business works. It’s highly probable that preparations for their next agency have already been made, but to most outsiders, it comes across as if they spontaneously terminated their contract. In sports, there are plenty of complex personalities, but success often justifies everything. Most clubs don’t care how difficult or demanding someone might be as long as they deliver results.
@@alessandro1339while I agree with you regarding sports, I still think there is a big difference with K-pop: the reputation of idols needs to be immaculate. Agencies thrive to have idols whose reputation is clean on the outside…if they are brats in the agency they won’t care as long as they maintain appearances to the outside world. Right now NJs no longer have an immaculate reputation. But well, there might be people ready to take them no matter what, I’m just merely disagreeing that it is exactly like in sports.
Do MHJ and NJ have the same lawyers? That would seem to be an ethical issue for the lawyers. Their interests overlap a little, but I don't think they can effectively serve the best interests of both parties. I would think lawyers for NJ would be telling them not to have a press conference that violates their contract and that even if they want to leave, they should wait until the dust settles with all of MHJ's lawsuits to see if they will really have somewhere to land if that's what she's promising them. And after the Davolink debacle, I can't imagine she'll be able to drum up investors for a new venture. She can sue Dispatch for their report but the damning quote from the CEO of Davolink is out there.
As far as I know, yes. Person doing tampering and tampered group having the same legal adviser. This could be huge case for lawyer's chamber ethical commission.
all Ador needs now is cooperation of Davos link owner. Davos link was involved in tampering, but if it makes deal with Ador, Ador might not sue Davos, but only MHJ. If owners of Davoslink cooperate with Ador, that's legally the best option for them. This, or jail. Remember when I commented that if MHJ and Davoslink connection proves to be true, and it seems to be true, Ador and Hybe have crucial proof for all the lawsuits against her? That's it. All that Ador needs now is statement from DavosLink people and evidence about meetings with MHJ. What were meetings about. Also, it seems that one of NJ parents or person they gave information to isn't quite happy with MHJ's brutal (ab) use of NJ members for her own private war with Hybe and her own gain. I am very sure that Hybe and Ador will know how to deal with this. DavosLinkand NJ's parents or close person testimony could be MHJ's endgame.
I don't think so - especially since they are unlikely to win. Their brand is falling - especially globally but also in SK. But BTS is still good and groups like Stray Kids are doing very well - it seems they are selling out global stadiums now, too, or at least in the US. There are other Korean acts that while not quiet there for various reasons have the ability to maybe make it, too.
@@ruthfischer7615you're talking about current acts but NJs actions hurt potential acts. If investors don't dare invest in the business, then small companies won't be able to train/form groups
@BunniesLili I'm not a hybe Stan, I'm someone who appreciates there are laws and regulations and they need to be followed even if you are going through what you believe is a bad time.
Pictures proof otherwise that they continue to see her. I can't wait to see how they will regret this. I feel bad for them cause they are very ignorant. They try to make it a Hybe issue. But it is an ADOR and NJ issue. Their contract is with ADOR. Also, we didn't talk about their VISAS 2 of them don't belong in S. Korea. Their visa is only for work. As soon as their contract is over with ADOR, they will not be working. They will have to go back to their country. If by luck any of those girls end up in another company, their contract will be more serious and way more complicated and restricted. No other company will want to get sued.
They want Ador to make the move just so they can say to public that the company is “mistreating” them. Even if they know they’ll loose, they want the public opinion to be against hybe.
It takes a lot more energy and resources to counter lies than to promulgate one. The girls, under advice, are trying to get HYBE to sue them which would put all onus of proof on to HYBE a much more difficult position than being the defendant. HYBE has to give the girls tight schedules etc and meetings to attend and note all non compliance and non attendance of meetings and then claim Breach of Contract on the part of the girls. It’s a long game of chess and a bit of cat and mouse. HYBE fighting! 💪🏻
@@Tk-rd6sy Their over and done with,in the long run hybe can just hold them until their contract is over hybe doesn't need to sue them they can freeze their career. that's also legal so either way,their mother MHJ and washed out jeans career as girl group is OOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Hybe won't take the bait, there is a president with fifty fifty who tried a similar strategy they just recently finished paying off their penalty, Hybe wasn't directly involved but was a party directly effected as they are in this instance, they applied the same strategy they are using now to great success. The groomer claims this case is different but the reality is the only difference is the party's involved, those girls WILL pay the penalty or they will fulfill their contract.
Korean laws are so strange. A fan from another group can file a complaint against the KPop group and launch an investigation. I find this very strange for a judicial system.
It isn't judicial system. It is just obligation of state institution to respond on written demand or question. In every country, not only in Korea. State institutions aren't judiciary system, far from that. They belong to executive branch of power, not to judiciary one. And law about state entities (government and ministries as part of government, other state institutions working as integral part of ministries) stipulates that every state organ, when a citizen adresses it wit question or complaint, must answer in legally due deadline to that very citizen. However, it is very unusual that these state institutions initiated investigations, because all they are obligated to do is to explain to complaining person about what law says about certain problem that state institution was warned about. For the rest, citizens must go through administrative court. Sue then. The fact that ministries are launching their own investigations tells me that their aim is to pressure and threaten Hybe politically. Why is this administration doing this with tight cooperation with so called opposition, therefore with government's political opponentm is question for Koreans to ask. This means that there is no effective governmental control. Nobody is monitoring what government does. And when gov. does things without efficient control of independent institutions, judiciary system, opposition and Constitutional court, then we can freely talk about suspense of democracy and about soft totalitarian system in place. Why are Koreans just silently observing suspense of democratic mechanisms is mystery to me.
@@0xyGen_2.p0 It seems the SK president declared martial law - unrightfully, too, and military got involved. The parliament came together and both parties voted against it and the SK president had to take it back. I think it is a missdirection from the stuff that is not working - the SK president did not get his core budget through paliament, there are corruption calls and there are politicians who use the death of workers as a photo op instead of helping. The GP is less that impressed as is the rest of the world.
@ruthfischer7615 thank you. I am waiting for news how korean won crashed down and how much damage he caused to stock.markets and whole Korean Economy. Is this guy even for real ?
Agree. KMF was very clear and precise regarding the serious, negative implications their behavior and actions will bring to the future/culture of the entertainment industry. Trying to sway public opinion on the issue isn’t working for MHJ and these young ladies. Trying to wreck the structure and livelihood of many agencies and actors in the entertainment industry because of unproven claims, pettiness and pure ignorance is serious stuff.
The courts better not let these women get away with it….they need to honor their contracts, or pay cancellation fees, plus cost of investment and other expenses that these women didn’t earn. If the court lets them they do as they please and don’t hold them accountable for every single wrong doings, it’s going to ruin Kpop industry…that is, what company will invest large sums of money and time on future artist, who can’t be trusted to honor their contract, and do everything required of them? No way will any company will take the chance of losing all their money on taking a chance on anyone if there’s a great possibility that they can simply quit, because they want to, you pissed them off at any time. or refuse to do what they are paid to do? Maybe Kpop industry will be like America, that is, it makes future artists pay for everything-their trainers, their choreographers, the vocal trainers, the studio time costs, their outfits, housing, food, managers, transportation, security, stylists,food, etc…If Ador thought the contracts were court officially cancelled, then that Japan trip & event would be 100% funded personally by these women not by Ador. Their parents better straighten these women out, before they are totally blacklisted from the entertainment industry.
So Newjeans' move is that they will wait for Ador to file a lawsuit and contest the termination of the contract and then Newjeans will release the evidence and negotiate on the right to the Newjeans name, well they will try, it's difficult but not impossible. It's a reverse move that they are doing to avoid paying the penalty. But they still haven't understood that by trying to prove poor management by HYBE for sales in Japan, it was Mommy Cockroach who planned this in her Kakao Talk messages and that she was the one who managed everything at the time and not the new management of Ador. Instead of producing good music and shouting plagiarism in front of the whole world, wait for Hybe to prove the opposite and bring down the UA-camrs who are currently in their sights, we're going to laugh there too. Especially since their contracts are still valid actualy
Now with Dispatch having released the proof of MHJ and an Uncle of one of the NJ members third party tampering including photo proof of meetings, with an investors, plus Hanni & MHJ meeting before Hanni appearance at the National Assemblies and copies of messages from MHJ to NJ family members, as well as an investor, and with the potential investor spilling the beans, ADOR/HYBEs position is strengthened Inducement to breach a contract is a common law legal principle. It is also known as tortious interference with contractual relations. It occurs when a third party intentionally causes one of the parties in a contractual relationship to breach their obligations. This is a serious legal issue that can lead to significant financial and reputational harm.
NJ girls also forgot that what they pulled on Ador, can be pulled to them by Ador as well. Just as NJ girls attempted to maneuver Ador into defensive position, so does Ador can play the same game toward them. I mean both sides definitely have their own legal team. So, I don't see why what NJ girls can do, Ador can't do. Oh, and another thing, I keep mentioning ADOR and not Hybe because although Hybe is the parent company of ADOR. In the eye of the court, HYBE and ADOR are separate entity. And since NJ girls exclusive contract is with ADOR. Hybe cannot be the liability of any of breach of contract in that exclusive contract. So, if NJ girls want to prove a breach of contract has been happening, it should be because of ADOR did something and not Hybe. For example, one of the things that NJ girls and or their supporters keep saying was that NJ girls will release internal document of HYBE, unless those internal documents were produced by ADOR, the court will dismiss them since the exclusive contract is between NJ girls and Ador (not Hybe).
@RazgrizDavion81 you summed up the situation very well. Just the fact of announcing in public in front of the media that their contract is broken and that THEY are responsible for it is already a break in itself. They are frustrated by the fact that their expectations for mama roach are not being met, that's what they don't like. If Source Music and BSH had known from the start what was going on behind their backs in 2021, but if only... Then it is very disrespectful of them to hold this press conference right at the same time as V releases his single Winter Ahead and to make fun of Suga in relation to MMA this year further proves their immature behavior. Hybe have spent and invested millions for them, that's the recognition they have. It's all very sad, really
@@BunniesLili Crying.😂😂 These excuse didn't work... If Hybe wins then they pay everything if NJ wins then the truth wins.. the hypocrisy of these kids...😂😂😂
@@BunniesLililmao everyone is corrupted because they are not agreeing with what "bunnies" think . Alas, we will see what will happen in the future , i for 1 i am skipping anything that will make money for NJ ,will never listen to their songs,even if they re-invent themselves in the future. And i am just a citizen who actually liked some NJ songs in the past. And this a reflection of not only what NJ has done but also their fans/trolls like you.
@@adac9634 Hmmm, let’s see, the truth shall always persist. But Kpop is definitely at its lowest when you see people blaming artists instead of the company
so if they perform after they have said their contract is terminated, they are able to use the old songs, and maybe will retain copyright for any new songs? is that sort of what they are thinking? I still think if the girls are successful in unilaterally terminating contracts it will have a negative impact on much of the entertainment world. how can contracts be honored going forward? there is no trust. I still don't see how their contracts were breached, trust broken, etc, except by NJs. honestly the girls need to be penalized. And that Dispatch revelation...it doesn't look good for MHJ.
They can not use the old songs or the name as they belong to Ador and the copyrights belong to the people who wrote them. The baby roaches did not write any of their songs, so they don't own the copyrights to them.
The NewJeans members aren't innocent; they know precisely what they are doing. They are willing participants in unethical and illegal activities in support of MHJ. Their exclusive contract is not cancelled, and their legal advice, if any, is questionable. However, it's important to note that ADOR/HYBE have legally done everything possible to reach a positive resolution, while NewJeans members continuously refuse.
JK gave those girls a way out of this mess. Let them fight and you, the artists, stay out of it, you’ll be fine here and ARMY will protect you, or at least not hate you. But they didn’t.
If nj and mhj really wanted to be as new jeans they wouldn’t do all this. Nj would ask for their mhj but if it was impossible they would just stay still bc they would know that they could end their careers and also all things that mhj did they would think about it too. If mhj really was close with nj she would tell girls not to do it bc they have a great group, fans and they put a lot of efforts for all this. But no, she doesn’t care if they loose. But I wish them the best and I hope everything will end in a right way. And I hope they understand what they were doing
If nj don't honor their contracts then Ador actually has a case to terminate the contracts and make nj pay them lol the tables will turn and nj will end up being legally forced to pay ador. But we see nj is still promoting as a group so it's obvious they are still doing their contract despite "terminating" it.
The issue as I see it is that no other company is going to want to sign them until the legal issues around the contract dispute are resolved. Also, I don’t see how HYBE has breached the contract. Being mean and talking trash are not grounds to terminate. As far as I can tell, HYBE has not withheld resources and has tried to resolve NJ’s concerns. Also, I have to imagine that HYBE has been preparing for this legal fight.
Hybe doesn't need to sue them no matter the antics gets worst,they can just with held their contract or just give them a few projects here and there nothing Major a few song here and there an album that's like warm their no employees their contractual workers,part of the reason why the bullying case fail flat , technically their not even employees just contractual workers.either way what ever happen here MHJ and Washed out jeans is OOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
do announcement of 'contract terminated' can damage the company as future event (contract) can not negotiate (to occur)? do company to approach client and try make event when their 'star' already announce contract terminated? (to make the point that announcement damaged the company? or even make a real event from that?) (hope you understand what i mean. :D) have a good day. :)
Hi, Could you please check something ? It is very strange but the number of streams for Who 3don Spotify today streams is almost the same number you posted for November 29th! I checked on the internet and the number of streams for Who on December 2nd is 0 ! Thanks
LMAO BSH and his corporation are sitting back watching those stupid girls and their groomer run around like busy roaches, destroying any hope they have for a career in music. It's the smart play, Ador has the documentation to counter their baseless accusations, if Hybe loses a few shareholders, that's the cost of doing business others will pick up those shares leaving the timid to wish they'd stayed the course.
There is ZERO BASIS for NJ to file claim. They're full of crap to begin with, because they said they quit, yet continued to fulfill their contracted commitments! Um...they would never have done that, if they believed they had legal standing. They are hoping ADOR will release them without penalty. however, Ador has NOT violated the exclusive contract. Only NJ has.😂
I have little sympathy now for baggy shorts. I also think these threats and wild statements are meant to cause negative sensationalism and shock attention to the satisfaction only of Queen roach, much of it empty, ridiculous and unattainable. If her or their names are in the news and in your face, the algorithms react, and of course, netizens pay attention~ automatically losing sight of the real issues at hand and the facts. Queen roach has organized all this showboating...however, the initial criminal actions remain valid. The longer we talk about Queen roach, giving our opinions, even though they are justified or right~ the longer Queen roach and baggy shorts have a hold on us, the longer we'll be subjected to these absurd media plays of theirs, giving her and them, power and influence neither deserve. Baggy shorts should be paying attention to what they are doing to kpop, they are acting like they are a catalyst for the freedom & betterment of artists, but are actually the precursor, if they succeed, to destruction of idols and agencies, and the whole kpop system. I am all for good changes, yes. But idols/trainees need agencies, and agencies provide necessary attribuutes to artists to ensure their success. It's a symbiotic relationship. Granted, there are flaws and it needs improvement. Are baggy shorts even aware of how many millions went into them? Source music and BangSH were the ones who really created these snippets as a group~ Queen roach was only brought in to brand, and, instead just thieved them, let one go and called them hers. Right from the nail polish on their toenails to the top of their styled hair, from their training facility use to their living accommodations and clothing needs, their venue schedules, merchandise and endorsements, to their transportation and security, and any other miscellaneous needs~ those girls paid for nothing, as it has been contractually furnished. You don't get to be nasty to who made you, so pay up when you want to leave before the contract ends. Or, stop the ugly funky and whining, pull up them baggy shorts and start applying yourself to repay the debt 😂 For me~ I really don't care anymore what those girls do...stay or go ...doesn't matter. They're on my Don't Look or Listen List 😂 ...sorry, I'm so done with water bugs and pants that don't fit. Love your channel and appreciate all your videos, you are a cut above 🌹🌿
I read the article the president is basically attempting to seize power from the legislators because they are going after his corrupt government trying to end the corruption.
HYBE and ADOR are playing the long game. By continuing to fulfill their part of the contract they have most definitely covered their a$$es for the courts to see.
Recently after watching dispatched receipts and pictures. I started to feel concerned. and this outcome is not normal. If they find someone to sell their cookie to get out of the legal process by following their mama roach's footsteps, that might work. but my main concern is with suicide so high in South Korea I think they could use that as a cap out following Mama Roach also filing for bankruptcy so they do not have to pay. What do you think? I would hate them to take their lives due to stupidity but this is cult-like behavior they are exhibiting and no one seems to see this. no matter how I do not like them and their attitude this is a result I do not want to see. because it will affect everyone including Hybe even though they did nothing wrong.
Oh I just know this is another fifty fifty situation but 10x messier and will end up 10x worse for nj for their doubling down on supporting and working with mama roach
Hellos...just saying if we're going to the trouble of not mentioning those names j.n 👖.... don't you think it's also important NOT to show them in picture.😢.. it also annoying to see them I'm so mad with them ☹️
Now with Dispatch having released the proof of MHJ and an Uncle of one of the NJ members third party tampering including photo proof of meetings, with an investors, plus Hanni & MHJ meeting before Hanni appearance at the National Assemblies and copies of messages from MHJ to NJ family members, as well as an investor, and with the potential investor spilling the beans, ADOR/HYBEs position is strengthened Inducement to breach a contract is a common law legal principle. It is also known as tortious interference with contractual relations. It occurs when a third party intentionally causes one of the parties in a contractual relationship to breach their obligations. This is a serious legal issue that can lead to significant financial and reputational harm.
I believe that they are advised by lawyers who know more than us, because they are complying with all the activities and they said that they continued to do them because they worked and complied with everything (implying that they are advised) and that they have complied with all the activities and ador did not comply referring to the fact that there is a clause where ador had the obligation to protect them if a third party intervened and if not it is Reason for terminating contract
No they aren’t complying. They are refusing to meet with Ador’s CEO to discuss future plans such as the world tour. They don’t get to pick and choose what they want to fulfill or not. They also have been colluding with a 3rd party: MHJ who doesn’t work there anymore so THEY are in breach of their contract. One of their uncles met with Davolink for an investment. Davolink would be considered a 3rd party so THAT’S a breach of their contract. The live they did disparaging the company is a breach of their contract. They have breached their contract many times at this point. A real lawyer would have told them to wIt after the 2 week mark to do a press conference. That way they gave the entire 2 weeks down to the minute. Not waiting the full 2 weeks is a breach. Many lawyers have analyzed this case and determined they made the wrong move.
@NewJnSkirt I think Ador is lying if you look at the history, of how Meen He would notify him of meetings minutes before so he would arrive late (if you know in Korean culture appointments are made well in advance) sometimes they also didn't notify him and he found out through third parties or other means about the conclusions of the meetings, apart from how they told them one thing and Hybe did another, like they wouldn't release the information about the shaman so as not to affect them and Hybe made it public, or when Ador told them that they would take legal action against those who leaked the videos and personal data and Ador didn't, that's what New Jeans called poor communication done on purpose and that when they met with Ador and Hybe for agreements they didn't do what was agreed or they did the opposite
@NewJnSkirt And it's not the same as months ago hybe sued the lady for wanting to take New jeans but I lost that lawsuit because they didn't have evidence, now it's a different situation where hybe could have done things better, treated them well which he didn't do, if he had treated them well they wouldn't have wanted to leave, Now that they are leaving, it is a different situation that even they themselves have said that if possible they would work with Meen He and it is a different situation I repeat, this would not have happened if Hibe had not harassed them or used coercion against their staff, this would not have happened if they had at least occurred to treat them well so that they would not leave or try to do so.
@@mss-w5eThink before you speak, no one else at BigHit Hybe has ever complain about being mistreated, everyone I seen dealing with other idols shows respect to them and I'm quite sure they would have said something by now. You know they are only lying because they want their own way and can't get the CEO they want. They have all the amenities possible given to them a whole floor to do hair and makeup, they have seriously been advised the wrong way to behave to the hand that provide them with all these luxuries. Adore and Hybe hasn't done anything to them. If they want to leave so bad they wouldn't have any problems paying the penalties to leave and go with mhj and if she really cared about them she will pay for them to leave no questions ask, no she wants to bring down someone who has been good to her. They are a disgrace and should be ashamed of themselves and anyone who are supporting this nonsense should also be ashamed, use your mind and senses that God gave you. No need replying back, I'm just stating my opinion.😊
Hay otras 4 empresas grandes , una en eeuu, que quieren a las Newjeans y a MHJ. Son chicas talentosas. El grupo aun tiene respaldo de Coca-Cola, Calvin Klein, Nike, etc.
And Coca-Cola, Calvin Klein, Nike, etc contracts are with ADOR not with NJ girls. These company are interested in using newjeans as their brand, I'm pretty sure they are not interested in running idols agency. And if NJ girls are successful in terminating their exclusive contract, keeping their brand name is another whole different matter. Coca-cola, Calvin Klein, Nike, etc are interested with Newjeans Brand. However, with individuals Hearin, Minji, Hyein, Danielle, Hanni, not so much.
@@RazgrizDavion81 No, las empresas grandes quieren ser representados por individuos y por su buena imagen, las empresas NO hacen contratos con meros nombres.
@@yei-jopbities6100 True except in kpop industry, unless the idol is a known solo artist or of have had a good solo project, idols are mostly known for their brand/ip. The company want to be represented by idols along with their brand/ip. Unfortunately, if NJ girls managed to terminate their contract, it is highly unlikely that Ador will let them keep their brand/ip. Good luck convincing the large company that the individual girls still carry a name that does not belong to them or create new name that probably won't be recognized. I can guarantee you one thing, many international people who like kpop idol would know idols face and what brand/ip they're belong to, however not all of them (except the core fan) will be able to tell the names of each idol.
Dear, even in any industry, this happens. 😅 Everyone is replaceable, even CEOs, BOD, a janitor. You don't feel comfortable in your work? Then leave. But know if you are breaking a contract there's always some penalties.involved.
@@minperi6276 lol Hybe failed to prove all those in the court that’s why min hee Jin won during the trial. Hybe doesn’t have any prove that mhj tried to take the company
No necesitan demandar. Al violar HYBE-ADOR el contrato atacando a las chicas de NewJeans y operando de manera sucia para acabar con ellas nombrándolas directamentes en los documentos auditados mediante eufemismos a las chicas de NewJeans y el nombre de su grupo IMPLICA LA INMEDIATA FINALIZACIÓN DE LOS TÉRMINOS DEL CONTRATO POR LO QUE LA RESCICIÓN ENTRA EN VIGOR Y FUERZA LEGAL SIN NECESIDAS DE DEMANDA. YA ESTÁ ESTIPULADO EN EL CONTRATO
But still, it will need to be validated by the court. Contract cannot be ended automatically even one side already fulfilled all of the contract termination requirement. The court will need to verify those fulfillments of the contract termination requirement. If parties involved in the contract can claim each other "breached a contract", what's the point of making contract in the first place?
First nj contract is with ador. Hybe and ador are separate companies. Nj contract is still valid. If nj wants to cancel their contracts they need to pay the penalty. Or file with the court.
Ador/HYBE will not do anything unless NJ file a formal/legal termination the contract. Dispatch showing the receipts proven what alot of us know all along that MHJ instigated all of it. What alot of people fail to see NJ girls aren't innocent. It probably them who expect all others to greet them as their expectations for the chairman to greet them in that one elevator ride. These girls are disrespectful and not at all humble.
Ador doesn't need to do anything but wait. Ador will call on NJ to fullfill their contractual duties. Each time NJ refuses, that will be enough for Ador to annull contracts immediately. Also, Ador will keep an eye on use of it's IP (NJ plus all advertising and other contracts they have under Ador). I can't imagine anyone risking legal and financial punishment for unauthorised use of Ador's IP, including eventual personal contracts with NJ members while they are still NJ and under Ador. And they are de facto and de iure under Ador, no matter how they fullishly interprete their contracts termination.
Also, charman of mother company zhybe has nothing to do with Ador, technically. Ador is just one of companies under Hybe umbrella where he is chairman. So he is part of top management of mother company, not of Ador directly. Another weak "argument" from NJ. Hybe and Ador are two separate companies, of which Hybe owns around 90 % + in Ador (since MHJ's shareholders agreement was legally annulled).
@@0xyGen_2.p0 But they ended the contract with Ador...they don't have a contract with Hybe. Hybe has a contract with Ador. Ador holding onto them is actually foolish...because they're going to end up ending the contract *anyway* once NJ does something they don't like. You cannot enforce a contract if the people of said contract refuses to cooperate and why would you want to even try? That's a waste of money. Suing them is a waste of money because they don't have any money to pay you even if you win and it's not like they'll go to jail if they can't pay it.....
@soulanstreets222 you don't understand a thing, love. Contracts are with Ador and contracts are LEGALLY VALID. Both Hybe and Ador have open lawsuits with MHJ, and tampering of NJ is part of these lawsuits. Since whole beginning. However, they needed evidence and Hybe is collecting evidence since they found out what MHJ is doing. While till now it was all about investors she wanted to lure into stealing Ador, after she left Ador, she continued plotting how to steal NJ, and it seems that Davosling is the final proof that Ador needed to finish her legally completely. Now it isn't only embezzlement, industrial espionage, defaming Hybe, breaching contract with Ador, mefia smear campaigns, violating shareholders agreement, etc, but it is also about TAMPERING.
While NJ's contract case is separate process, it is at the same time connected to legal processes against MHJ. I hope I managed to explain. Contracts of NJ are still VALID. No doubt at all they are. You are wrong if you believe that NJ's contracts aren't valid anymore. If NJ claim violation of their contracts, they have to prove this violation on court of law. THEY (NJ) have to prove it if they want to leave now. Nobody else.
But let me hint you: what will probably happen is that after a while Ador will k1ck out NJ because of NJ's breaches of contracts and girls will very likely pay full or most of the penalty. But right now, Ador doesn't have to do anything because contracts are VALID. They aren't cancelled. They can't be if NJ don't prove their claims with evidence in the court of Law.
@@soulanstreets222
Not really.
The girls will have to pay a high penalty if they want to leave.
This is an artist contract and the label has put a lot and I mean millions of Dollars into them, their training, their promotion etc. which they have not made back, yet.
In SK the label is protected from the loss which means the girls have to pay out the contract till it's end to leave.
3 members of TVXQ sued SM and were let go BUT they had to pay for about a decade from their earnings to SM.
It's not a subscription or an artist contract like in the US - because the label puts so much more into their artist:
training, housing, feeding (for many years even before debut) etc. and they were paid from the moment of their debut.
Girls have to pay about ₩300 billion KRW (about $225 million USD) or so is the guess.
As the vid says:
You can not terminate the contract like that.
But Ador is smart also, because just after the press conference, they announced that NewJeans contract is still valid😅.
lol cause Ador has no other option
@@BunniesLili well they do, but they just picked that one, which probably suggested by their legal team. I mean financial resource and time are on the side of ADOR. Not so much for NJ girls. Since all the money they earn will go through ADOR first before going into their bank account, and as for time, that is a precious commodity any idols can't afford to lose.
@@RazgrizDavion81 Seems like you don’t understand the situation. Newjeans has already terminated their contracts, it is in their contract that allows them to terminate without seeking a lawsuit. So it is Ador( which is actually Hybe right now ) that has no other option but to file a lawsuit if they want to claim the contract is still valid and has to give proves of contract violation from Newjeans’s side, which they’re is none. That is exactly what NewJeans want because the moment Ador files a lawsuit, it’s gonna backfire cause their is all the proves of Ador’a contract violation, the notable one being the Hybe’s document revealing the plan to ‘Abondone’ the artist/ group and creat a new one, which violates the Artist’s exclusive contract by abondonig them.
Another being the failure to take action against third party infringers therefore violating Article 5.4 of the exclusive contract between C(ADOR) and E's (Newjeans) members stipulates that if a third party infringes or interferes with E's (NewJeans) entertainment activities, C(ADOR) is obligated to take necessary measures to eliminate such infringement or interference.
@@RazgrizDavion81 No Adore can’t. The only way they can claim the contract valid is by filing a lawsuit which will be a nail in the coffin for Adore 😙
@@BunniesLili The same way works with NJ girls. The only way they can claim their termination is that termination is validated and confirmed by the court.
Up to this point all we have is NJ girls saying "terminate" and Ador saying "still valid". Both of which are each side making claim but has not have any legal effect yet since the court hasn't been involved.
And do note, since contract is a legal binding between parties involved, just as NJ girls can give ultimatum with 14 days' time limit, Ador can do the exact same action. It's just a matter of whether Ador wants to do it or not and not because they can't. As for what reason, it's up to Ador to decide as well, the same way NJ girls decide to use their reasoning.
The situation looks dire for the members. Today, the Korean Management Federation (KMF) released a lengthy statement addressing the dispute between New Jeans and ADOR. The KMF criticized the group's assertions, labeling them as baseless. This statement is incredibly damaging, as it highlights the serious consequences this conflict could have for the Korean entertainment industry and its investors. KBS World News also did a broadcast highlighting how the members lied. When will the parents realize that their cards have been played and they lost? They are on the brink of losing everything!
They got bad legal advice for sure ( or maybe none at all ). If NJ haven't haven't presented their case for termination of contract via a legal route, then their claims are invalid. And they are STILL carrying out their schedule using ADOR/HYBE staff, production crew, security, etc.
This is a very nieve and clumsy move on NJ's part. I can see no other company wishing to work with them after this. Sadly, I think they are done for unless they retract their desire to leave Ador/Hybe.
lol no, Hybe stans are the one clueless atp
@@BunniesLili Kid this is about business.. who will invest on these girls....😅😅😅😅
@@harishraja4936 go see their contract s before saying dumb stuffs lmfao 🤣
@@harishraja4936 Nihče, ker bodo z njimi vedno težave in takih težav nobeno podjetje ne bo sprejelo!
I don't even think HYBE/Ador would want them. I feel like they will have them finish whatever schedules they have already arranged and shelf the group. Or could sue them for breach of contract. After all they've done, I feel like Ador would have a solid case.
I'd wanna say New Jeans planned it meticulously up until the final night of the ultimatum but the one contradiction was when Danielle mentioned MHJ during that night of termination so to say that she's not the one manipulating behind the scenes is an understatement because NJ clearly are a bunch of headless chickens right now. I mean, you terminate your contract, yet, you STILL do things together as NJ when you don't have the obligations to do these anymore. The only thing NJ need to do is to do it by legal because this is looking like a wasted effort.
The havent terminated their contract yet....
@@entropyawylli24 right these people rush to hate the girls without knowing anything nwj didn't terminated their contract yet they just gave them a noti
You mean the groomer right?
Even the witch said they're fat lazy and dumb, look up M H J kakao talk messages she said horrible things about them
They are proving themselves to be liars & troublemakers.
I think that NJ didn't get legal advice before that press conference. At least no proper one. The only intensive advice they've got is from MHJ, who proved to be notoriously illiterate when it comes to legal matters. I am almost 100 % sure that this was her "advice", because if anyone noted this, they copied exactly how they thought Ador terminated Min's contract. Ador said it is no longer valid since she breached it, and that termination legally stands.
What MHJ doesn't understand though is why could Ador do it this way, and why NJ members can't. Why NJ need court's decision but Ador doesn't/didn't (Ador asked for one just in case, but it actually doesn't need a court for confirming termination of contract with MHJ. Why is it so is enough to look in what commercial act stipulates).
Because of this fact, and the fact that no law firm would be st00p!d enough to give them such advise, I'm 100 % sure that Min and only Min was "a mastermind" behind this, with her majestic illiteracy in legal matters. Also, if girls had any official legal argumentation for terminating their contracts, it would be presented already on that press conference. But it wasn't presented till today.
Contracts are fully valid, if for nothing else, then: 1. NJ violated 14 days timeframe for Ador's respond, which constitutes as serious procedural breach of Law and as a consequence, contracts are valid, according to Korean law regarding business contracts. 2. Since NJ continued their activities under Ador next day after press conference, although they declared termination of contracts earlier at midnight, they de facto and de iure annulled their own declared (legally non valid though) contracts "termination" with that. 3. As Ador sayed: just because of their one-sided feeling that trust was lost, this doesn't constitute as Ador's breach of contracts. Contracts are 100 % valid. 4. And last but not least, one that claims that the other party violated their contracts has to proof these claims on the court.
Also, Ador is not stupid. Make no mistake, Ador works patiently and strategically, so Law will continue being on Ador's side. It's not that Ador doesn't want to let NJ go. Ador has to secure that NJ pays penalty when they go. And for this, Ador needs to demonstrate to the court that it indeed did everything for NJ that it should under it's contractual obligations. Rushing solves nothing. This case will sooner or later get it's epilogue in the court. Systematic and methodical approach is how one has to deal with this thing, and Ador is doing great job. NJ has absolutely nothing on Ador to justify contracts termination.
Also, be aware of MHJ's game to avoid being found guilty for tempering, because this is what she is focused on now. Now she hides behinds parents of NJ who claim that will personally manage NJ's activities. By what? Stealing Ador's advertisment contract and Ador's IP? Not just NJ but also their parents have been dragged into very dangerous game by MHJ, for if they will really manage NJ, they are literally stealing Ador's property and IP. NJ is Ador's property. Not to mention that they could become part of tempering lawsuit, since they also have link to DavosLink.
Anyone touching Ador's IP and/or trying to exploit it without Ador's knowledge or consent will for sure end up in jail and in huge financial debt to Ador.
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@mutyulikutyuli8368 is this Finnish? Isladese? Translator doesn't work :(
Hi, where do you get jail from? I haven't heard anyone argue this and it's a civil matter not a criminal one. Or am I missing something?
Btw comment above is not Finnish and they thanking you for the good summery. It might be Turkish, I think they use ö.
@Pschokid tampering is criminal offence, I believe , embezzlement is also, so is industrial espionage. The rest is civil. I think this is how it is, who knows better is free to correct me. Just to add that embezzlement often goes to a civil court because this type of financial fraud is hard to prove in terms of criminal law. Not impossible though. Remember that american thing with financial funds.
@Pschokid it doesn't seem Turkish to me and it doesn't seem Hungarian either...dunno, you sure it's Turkish? Also germans use ö but not the accents...dunno. Thank you for help!
I’m sure from now on investors will be sceptical of investing on girls group if they can just ran away like that.its a risky business
Drama queen
@@onlydbrasko
the girls?
yes
I don't blame them. Or they can make a contract that is extremely hard to break.
@@ruthfischer7615 OP
I think investors will be cautious to invest in anything kpop related. Korea Entertainment Management Association did write an article on it
One thing is for sure that any agency out there would think twice about making contract with these big head girls. Too much too handle.
I actually think that the girls are not totally indispensable as they believe. Ador can place these girls on indefinite hiatus and then replace them with new girls.
Most people likely have no real understanding of how the business works. It’s highly probable that preparations for their next agency have already been made, but to most outsiders, it comes across as if they spontaneously terminated their contract.
In sports, there are plenty of complex personalities, but success often justifies everything. Most clubs don’t care how difficult or demanding someone might be as long as they deliver results.
@@alessandro1339right I've been thinking MHJ already had the company lined up that's why they want to leave now
@@alessandro1339while I agree with you regarding sports, I still think there is a big difference with K-pop: the reputation of idols needs to be immaculate. Agencies thrive to have idols whose reputation is clean on the outside…if they are brats in the agency they won’t care as long as they maintain appearances to the outside world. Right now NJs no longer have an immaculate reputation. But well, there might be people ready to take them no matter what, I’m just merely disagreeing that it is exactly like in sports.
Do MHJ and NJ have the same lawyers? That would seem to be an ethical issue for the lawyers. Their interests overlap a little, but I don't think they can effectively serve the best interests of both parties. I would think lawyers for NJ would be telling them not to have a press conference that violates their contract and that even if they want to leave, they should wait until the dust settles with all of MHJ's lawsuits to see if they will really have somewhere to land if that's what she's promising them. And after the Davolink debacle, I can't imagine she'll be able to drum up investors for a new venture. She can sue Dispatch for their report but the damning quote from the CEO of Davolink is out there.
Yes
As far as I know, yes. Person doing tampering and tampered group having the same legal adviser. This could be huge case for lawyer's chamber ethical commission.
all Ador needs now is cooperation of Davos link owner. Davos link was involved in tampering, but if it makes deal with Ador, Ador might not sue Davos, but only MHJ. If owners of Davoslink cooperate with Ador, that's legally the best option for them. This, or jail.
Remember when I commented that if MHJ and Davoslink connection proves to be true, and it seems to be true, Ador and Hybe have crucial proof for all the lawsuits against her? That's it. All that Ador needs now is statement from DavosLink people and evidence about meetings with MHJ. What were meetings about.
Also, it seems that one of NJ parents or person they gave information to isn't quite happy with MHJ's brutal (ab) use of NJ members for her own private war with Hybe and her own gain. I am very sure that Hybe and Ador will know how to deal with this. DavosLinkand NJ's parents or close person testimony could be MHJ's endgame.
It's called conflict of interest, genius.
@@lansjwpaw she can't get it out of it. If Davoslink director testigies for Hybe and Ador (both are suing MHJ), she will go in jail.
Out of topic but guys hybe’s stock is rising ↗️ again☺️
Such a shame with this action nj has sent the kpop industry into a ditch in the future this is mind boggling
I don't think so - especially since they are unlikely to win.
Their brand is falling - especially globally but also in SK.
But BTS is still good and groups like Stray Kids are doing very well - it seems they are selling out global stadiums now, too, or at least in the US.
There are other Korean acts that while not quiet there for various reasons have the ability to maybe make it, too.
@@ruthfischer7615you're talking about current acts but NJs actions hurt potential acts. If investors don't dare invest in the business, then small companies won't be able to train/form groups
It's ridiculous, companies shouldn't work with them again.💜
lol keep complaining
@BunniesLili it's not a complaint it's a statement
@@tasha5768 It is a ridiculous COMPLAIN by a Hybe Stan
@BunniesLili I'm not a hybe Stan, I'm someone who appreciates there are laws and regulations and they need to be followed even if you are going through what you believe is a bad time.
@@tasha5768 si hay leyes que la misma empresa romper o no tienes por que seguir trabajando ahí
Pictures proof otherwise that they continue to see her. I can't wait to see how they will regret this. I feel bad for them cause they are very ignorant. They try to make it a Hybe issue. But it is an ADOR and NJ issue. Their contract is with ADOR. Also, we didn't talk about their VISAS 2 of them don't belong in S. Korea. Their visa is only for work. As soon as their contract is over with ADOR, they will not be working. They will have to go back to their country. If by luck any of those girls end up in another company, their contract will be more serious and way more complicated and restricted. No other company will want to get sued.
They want Ador to make the move just so they can say to public that the company is “mistreating” them.
Even if they know they’ll loose, they want the public opinion to be against hybe.
It takes a lot more energy and resources to counter lies than to promulgate one. The girls, under advice, are trying to get HYBE to sue them which would put all onus of proof on to HYBE a much more difficult position than being the defendant. HYBE has to give the girls tight schedules etc and meetings to attend and note all non compliance and non attendance of meetings and then claim Breach of Contract on the part of the girls. It’s a long game of chess and a bit of cat and mouse. HYBE fighting! 💪🏻
Newjeans fighting
@@Tk-rd6sy Their over and done with,in the long run hybe can just hold them until their contract is over hybe doesn't need to sue them they can freeze their career. that's also legal so either way,their mother MHJ and washed out jeans career as girl group is OOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
@@Tk-rd6sy New Jeans bo na koncu izgubil in to je dejstvo!
Nj label is ador.
Hybe is a parent company.
Hybe won't take the bait, there is a president with fifty fifty who tried a similar strategy they just recently finished paying off their penalty, Hybe wasn't directly involved but was a party directly effected as they are in this instance, they applied the same strategy they are using now to great success.
The groomer claims this case is different but the reality is the only difference is the party's involved, those girls WILL pay the penalty or they will fulfill their contract.
Korean laws are so strange. A fan from another group can file a complaint against the KPop group and launch an investigation. I find this very strange for a judicial system.
It isn't judicial system. It is just obligation of state institution to respond on written demand or question. In every country, not only in Korea. State institutions aren't judiciary system, far from that. They belong to executive branch of power, not to judiciary one. And law about state entities (government and ministries as part of government, other state institutions working as integral part of ministries) stipulates that every state organ, when a citizen adresses it wit question or complaint, must answer in legally due deadline to that very citizen.
However, it is very unusual that these state institutions initiated investigations, because all they are obligated to do is to explain to complaining person about what law says about certain problem that state institution was warned about. For the rest, citizens must go through administrative court. Sue then.
The fact that ministries are launching their own investigations tells me that their aim is to pressure and threaten Hybe politically. Why is this administration doing this with tight cooperation with so called opposition, therefore with government's political opponentm is question for Koreans to ask. This means that there is no effective governmental control. Nobody is monitoring what government does. And when gov. does things without efficient control of independent institutions, judiciary system, opposition and Constitutional court, then we can freely talk about suspense of democracy and about soft totalitarian system in place. Why are Koreans just silently observing suspense of democratic mechanisms is mystery to me.
@@0xyGen_2.p0
It seems the SK president declared martial law - unrightfully, too, and military got involved.
The parliament came together and both parties voted against it and the SK president had to take it back.
I think it is a missdirection from the stuff that is not working - the SK president did not get his core budget through paliament, there are corruption calls and there are politicians who use the death of workers as a photo op instead of helping.
The GP is less that impressed as is the rest of the world.
@ruthfischer7615 thank you. I am waiting for news how korean won crashed down and how much damage he caused to stock.markets and whole Korean Economy. Is this guy even for real ?
The Korean Entertainment management have made a very telling statement about this. Its well worth reviewing
Agree. KMF was very clear and precise regarding the serious, negative implications their behavior and actions will bring to the future/culture of the entertainment industry. Trying to sway public opinion on the issue isn’t working for MHJ and these young ladies. Trying to wreck the structure and livelihood of many agencies and actors in the entertainment industry because of unproven claims, pettiness and pure ignorance is serious stuff.
The courts better not let these women get away with it….they need to honor their contracts, or pay cancellation fees, plus cost of investment and other expenses that these women didn’t earn. If the court lets them they do as they please and don’t hold them accountable for every single wrong doings, it’s going to ruin Kpop industry…that is, what company will invest large sums of money and time on future artist, who can’t be trusted to honor their contract, and do everything required of them? No way will any company will take the chance of losing all their money on taking a chance on anyone if there’s a great possibility that they can simply quit, because they want to, you pissed them off at any time. or refuse to do what they are paid to do? Maybe Kpop industry will be like America, that is, it makes future artists pay for everything-their trainers, their choreographers, the vocal trainers, the studio time costs, their outfits, housing, food, managers, transportation, security, stylists,food, etc…If Ador thought the contracts were court officially cancelled, then that Japan trip & event would be 100% funded personally by these women not by Ador. Their parents better straighten these women out, before they are totally blacklisted from the entertainment industry.
So Newjeans' move is that they will wait for Ador to file a lawsuit and contest the termination of the contract and then Newjeans will release the evidence and negotiate on the right to the Newjeans name, well they will try, it's difficult but not impossible. It's a reverse move that they are doing to avoid paying the penalty. But they still haven't understood that by trying to prove poor management by HYBE for sales in Japan, it was Mommy Cockroach who planned this in her Kakao Talk messages and that she was the one who managed everything at the time and not the new management of Ador. Instead of producing good music and shouting plagiarism in front of the whole world, wait for Hybe to prove the opposite and bring down the UA-camrs who are currently in their sights, we're going to laugh there too. Especially since their contracts are still valid actualy
Now with Dispatch having released the proof of MHJ and an Uncle of one of the NJ members third party tampering including photo proof of meetings, with an investors, plus Hanni & MHJ meeting before Hanni appearance at the National Assemblies and copies of messages from MHJ to NJ family members, as well as an investor, and with the potential investor spilling the beans, ADOR/HYBEs position is strengthened
Inducement to breach a contract is a common law legal principle. It is also known as tortious interference with contractual relations. It occurs when a third party intentionally causes one of the parties in a contractual relationship to breach their obligations.
This is a serious legal issue that can lead to significant financial and reputational harm.
NJ girls also forgot that what they pulled on Ador, can be pulled to them by Ador as well. Just as NJ girls attempted to maneuver Ador into defensive position, so does Ador can play the same game toward them. I mean both sides definitely have their own legal team. So, I don't see why what NJ girls can do, Ador can't do.
Oh, and another thing, I keep mentioning ADOR and not Hybe because although Hybe is the parent company of ADOR. In the eye of the court, HYBE and ADOR are separate entity. And since NJ girls exclusive contract is with ADOR. Hybe cannot be the liability of any of breach of contract in that exclusive contract. So, if NJ girls want to prove a breach of contract has been happening, it should be because of ADOR did something and not Hybe. For example, one of the things that NJ girls and or their supporters keep saying was that NJ girls will release internal document of HYBE, unless those internal documents were produced by ADOR, the court will dismiss them since the exclusive contract is between NJ girls and Ador (not Hybe).
@RazgrizDavion81 you summed up the situation very well. Just the fact of announcing in public in front of the media that their contract is broken and that THEY are responsible for it is already a break in itself. They are frustrated by the fact that their expectations for mama roach are not being met, that's what they don't like. If Source Music and BSH had known from the start what was going on behind their backs in 2021, but if only... Then it is very disrespectful of them to hold this press conference right at the same time as V releases his single Winter Ahead and to make fun of Suga in relation to MMA this year further proves their immature behavior. Hybe have spent and invested millions for them, that's the recognition they have. It's all very sad, really
Even korean industry association urges NJ to negotiate
Because they are all corrupted and paid by Hybe. Hybe has no other option but to resort to those means 😂
@@BunniesLili Crying.😂😂 These excuse didn't work... If Hybe wins then they pay everything if NJ wins then the truth wins.. the hypocrisy of these kids...😂😂😂
@@BunniesLili Ne razmišljate pravilno!
@@BunniesLililmao everyone is corrupted because they are not agreeing with what "bunnies" think . Alas, we will see what will happen in the future , i for 1 i am skipping anything that will make money for NJ ,will never listen to their songs,even if they re-invent themselves in the future. And i am just a citizen who actually liked some NJ songs in the past. And this a reflection of not only what NJ has done but also their fans/trolls like you.
@@adac9634 Hmmm, let’s see, the truth shall always persist. But Kpop is definitely at its lowest when you see people blaming artists instead of the company
I love your takes.
*Side tip: in the U.S., precedent is pronounced "press-eh-dent."* Like president, but with a harder "s" sound.
All I remember is ignoring once considered a bully💀💀. They ignore Bang pd 360 days 💀💀 lol! Who is the bully now😂😂
so if they perform after they have said their contract is terminated, they are able to use the old songs, and maybe will retain copyright for any new songs? is that sort of what they are thinking?
I still think if the girls are successful in unilaterally terminating contracts it will have a negative impact on much of the entertainment world. how can contracts be honored going forward? there is no trust.
I still don't see how their contracts were breached, trust broken, etc, except by NJs.
honestly the girls need to be penalized. And that Dispatch revelation...it doesn't look good for MHJ.
They can not use the old songs or the name as they belong to Ador and the copyrights belong to the people who wrote them. The baby roaches did not write any of their songs, so they don't own the copyrights to them.
The NewJeans members aren't innocent; they know precisely what they are doing. They are willing participants in unethical and illegal activities in support of MHJ. Their exclusive contract is not cancelled, and their legal advice, if any, is questionable. However, it's important to note that ADOR/HYBE have legally done everything possible to reach a positive resolution, while NewJeans members continuously refuse.
Isn't the little snakes statement itself a violation of their contract?
JK gave those girls a way out of this mess. Let them fight and you, the artists, stay out of it, you’ll be fine here and ARMY will protect you, or at least not hate you. But they didn’t.
If nj and mhj really wanted to be as new jeans they wouldn’t do all this. Nj would ask for their mhj but if it was impossible they would just stay still bc they would know that they could end their careers and also all things that mhj did they would think about it too.
If mhj really was close with nj she would tell girls not to do it bc they have a great group, fans and they put a lot of efforts for all this. But no, she doesn’t care if they loose. But I wish them the best and I hope everything will end in a right way. And I hope they understand what they were doing
If nj don't honor their contracts then Ador actually has a case to terminate the contracts and make nj pay them lol the tables will turn and nj will end up being legally forced to pay ador. But we see nj is still promoting as a group so it's obvious they are still doing their contract despite "terminating" it.
I completely understand. No worries from me.
The issue as I see it is that no other company is going to want to sign them until the legal issues around the contract dispute are resolved. Also, I don’t see how HYBE has breached the contract. Being mean and talking trash are not grounds to terminate. As far as I can tell, HYBE has not withheld resources and has tried to resolve NJ’s concerns. Also, I have to imagine that HYBE has been preparing for this legal fight.
the LAW protects the CONTRACT. and ADOR has done nothing to violate it❤ while N J has. So has MHJ. Sorry, the law...even SOUTH KOREAN LAW favors HYBE.
what's the meaning of mama roach?
In this context, it means "she who shall not be named" 😊. We just don't want the algorithm to pick it up if we mention her real name.
they got legal advice from shaman
Hybe doesn't need to sue them no matter the antics gets worst,they can just with held their contract or just give them a few projects here and there nothing Major a few song here and there an album that's like warm their no employees their contractual workers,part of the reason why the bullying case fail flat , technically their not even employees just contractual workers.either way what ever happen here MHJ and Washed out jeans is OOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
You do realize hybe and ador are separate companies.
Nj label is ador.
They may have some legal wiggle room but this doesn't mean anyone in the industry will trust them again
Thank you for the question. I take the 5th 😅
The deflecting technique is funny.
Hahaha
do announcement of 'contract terminated' can damage the company as future event (contract) can not negotiate (to occur)?
do company to approach client and try make event when their 'star' already announce contract terminated? (to make the point that announcement damaged the company? or even make a real event from that?) (hope you understand what i mean. :D)
have a good day. :)
Hi, Could you please check something ? It is very strange but the number of streams for Who 3don Spotify today streams is almost the same number you posted for November 29th! I checked on the internet and the number of streams for Who on December 2nd is 0 ! Thanks
I know I streamed it! It should at least be 1, lol
Their contracts are with Ador, not Hybe.
I know the answer I work for banking and we answer that is a good questions if you don’t know the answer😂
LMAO BSH and his corporation are sitting back watching those stupid girls and their groomer run around like busy roaches, destroying any hope they have for a career in music.
It's the smart play, Ador has the documentation to counter their baseless accusations, if Hybe loses a few shareholders, that's the cost of doing business others will pick up those shares leaving the timid to wish they'd stayed the course.
There is ZERO BASIS for NJ to file claim. They're full of crap to begin with, because they said they quit, yet continued to fulfill their contracted commitments! Um...they would never have done that, if they believed they had legal standing. They are hoping ADOR will release them without penalty. however, Ador has NOT violated the exclusive contract. Only NJ has.😂
Ok I understand.
Wow.. thank you!!
Now I understand why I can't understand the mama and those 5 kids.
I have little sympathy now for baggy shorts. I also think these threats and wild statements are meant to cause negative sensationalism and shock attention to the satisfaction only of Queen roach, much of it empty, ridiculous and unattainable. If her or their names are in the news and in your face, the algorithms react, and of course, netizens pay attention~ automatically losing sight of the real issues at hand and the facts.
Queen roach has organized all this showboating...however, the initial criminal actions remain valid.
The longer we talk about Queen roach, giving our opinions, even though they are justified or right~ the longer Queen roach and baggy shorts have a hold on us, the longer we'll be subjected to these absurd media plays of theirs, giving her and them, power and influence neither deserve. Baggy shorts should be paying attention to what they are doing to kpop, they are acting like they are a catalyst for the freedom & betterment of artists, but are actually the precursor, if they succeed, to destruction of idols and agencies, and the whole kpop system. I am all for good changes, yes. But idols/trainees need agencies, and agencies provide necessary attribuutes to artists to ensure their success. It's a symbiotic relationship. Granted, there are flaws and it needs improvement.
Are baggy shorts even aware of how many millions went into them?
Source music and BangSH were the ones who really created these snippets as a group~ Queen roach was only brought in to brand, and, instead just thieved them, let one go and called them hers.
Right from the nail polish on their toenails to the top of their styled hair, from their training facility use to their living accommodations and clothing needs, their venue schedules, merchandise and endorsements, to their transportation and security, and any other miscellaneous needs~ those girls paid for nothing, as it has been contractually furnished. You don't get to be nasty to who made you, so pay up when you want to leave before the contract ends.
Or, stop the ugly funky and whining, pull up them baggy shorts and start applying yourself to repay the debt 😂
For me~ I really don't care anymore what those girls do...stay or go ...doesn't matter. They're on my Don't Look or Listen List 😂
...sorry, I'm so done with water bugs and pants that don't fit.
Love your channel and appreciate all your videos, you are a cut above 🌹🌿
We call them Pants in my household
Martial law has been declared in SK..
I had no idea SK was so wrapped up in this drama, J/K
I read the article the president is basically attempting to seize power from the legislators because they are going after his corrupt government trying to end the corruption.
So, mamaroach had to be loyal to ADOR but not loyal to HYbe that is the boss of ADOR?
Hi again
HYBE and ADOR are playing the long game. By continuing to fulfill their part of the contract they have most definitely covered their a$$es for the courts to see.
NJ are just run away idols but for how long???
Recently after watching dispatched receipts and pictures. I started to feel concerned. and this outcome is not normal. If they find someone to sell their cookie to get out of the legal process by following their mama roach's footsteps, that might work. but my main concern is with suicide so high in South Korea I think they could use that as a cap out following Mama Roach also filing for bankruptcy so they do not have to pay. What do you think? I would hate them to take their lives due to stupidity but this is cult-like behavior they are exhibiting and no one seems to see this. no matter how I do not like them and their attitude this is a result I do not want to see. because it will affect everyone including Hybe even though they did nothing wrong.
Nah , that's not in their plan
Narcissists don't off themselves those brats will be fine, only kind hearted people take their own life, evil just continues.
@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult thank you for saying that. I don't like them but still don't want that as an excuse.
of course mhj ordering nj around like her fav puppet since mhj know her puppet have good support aka bunnies 😂😂😂
Oh I just know this is another fifty fifty situation but 10x messier and will end up 10x worse for nj for their doubling down on supporting and working with mama roach
Hellos...just saying if we're going to the trouble of not mentioning those names j.n 👖.... don't you think it's also important NOT to show them in picture.😢.. it also annoying to see them I'm so mad with them ☹️
Same.. Seeing their faces pissed me off... An angel face with a demon look and aura same with the that roach or snake mama
@@cathycathforever198 Hi, yes, you´re so right. Their faces are like demons, and each day, we learn more and more about what we suspected all along.
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Any arr o want entity is in a stupid position, from the instant it is ARROGANT
Its a bad step.
BAD LEGAL ADVICE
Now with Dispatch having released the proof of MHJ and an Uncle of one of the NJ members third party tampering including photo proof of meetings, with an investors, plus Hanni & MHJ meeting before Hanni appearance at the National Assemblies and copies of messages from MHJ to NJ family members, as well as an investor, and with the potential investor spilling the beans, ADOR/HYBEs position is strengthened
Inducement to breach a contract is a common law legal principle. It is also known as tortious interference with contractual relations. It occurs when a third party intentionally causes one of the parties in a contractual relationship to breach their obligations.
This is a serious legal issue that can lead to significant financial and reputational harm.
New Jeans paved the way for verbal termination in kpop
You can't dont that.
Are all songs of pants not belong to hybe?belongs to BANA?
No. All of nj songs belong to ador
@nicoleloss7987 ,ahh ok,cause their fandom Claim it belongs to BANA,
AND STILL ADOR IS UNDER HYBE LABEL
I believe that they are advised by lawyers who know more than us, because they are complying with all the activities and they said that they continued to do them because they worked and complied with everything (implying that they are advised) and that they have complied with all the activities and ador did not comply referring to the fact that there is a clause where ador had the obligation to protect them if a third party intervened and if not it is Reason for terminating contract
No they aren’t complying. They are refusing to meet with Ador’s CEO to discuss future plans such as the world tour. They don’t get to pick and choose what they want to fulfill or not. They also have been colluding with a 3rd party: MHJ who doesn’t work there anymore so THEY are in breach of their contract. One of their uncles met with Davolink for an investment. Davolink would be considered a 3rd party so THAT’S a breach of their contract. The live they did disparaging the company is a breach of their contract. They have breached their contract many times at this point. A real lawyer would have told them to wIt after the 2 week mark to do a press conference. That way they gave the entire 2 weeks down to the minute. Not waiting the full 2 weeks is a breach. Many lawyers have analyzed this case and determined they made the wrong move.
@NewJnSkirt I think Ador is lying if you look at the history, of how Meen He would notify him of meetings minutes before so he would arrive late (if you know in Korean culture appointments are made well in advance) sometimes they also didn't notify him and he found out through third parties or other means about the conclusions of the meetings, apart from how they told them one thing and Hybe did another, like they wouldn't release the information about the shaman so as not to affect them and Hybe made it public, or when Ador told them that they would take legal action against those who leaked the videos and personal data and Ador didn't, that's what New Jeans called poor communication done on purpose and that when they met with Ador and Hybe for agreements they didn't do what was agreed or they did the opposite
@NewJnSkirt And it's not the same as months ago hybe sued the lady for wanting to take New jeans but I lost that lawsuit because they didn't have evidence, now it's a different situation where hybe could have done things better, treated them well which he didn't do, if he had treated them well they wouldn't have wanted to leave, Now that they are leaving, it is a different situation that even they themselves have said that if possible they would work with Meen He and it is a different situation
I repeat, this would not have happened if Hibe had not harassed them or used coercion against their staff, this would not have happened if they had at least occurred to treat them well so that they would not leave or try to do so.
@@mss-w5eThink before you speak, no one else at BigHit Hybe has ever complain about being mistreated, everyone I seen dealing with other idols shows respect to them and I'm quite sure they would have said something by now. You know they are only lying because they want their own way and can't get the CEO they want. They have all the amenities possible given to them a whole floor to do hair and makeup, they have seriously been advised the wrong way to behave to the hand that provide them with all these luxuries. Adore and Hybe hasn't done anything to them. If they want to leave so bad they wouldn't have any problems paying the penalties to leave and go with mhj and if she really cared about them she will pay for them to leave no questions ask, no she wants to bring down someone who has been good to her. They are a disgrace and should be ashamed of themselves and anyone who are supporting this nonsense should also be ashamed, use your mind and senses that God gave you. No need replying back, I'm just stating my opinion.😊
@@mss-w5eyeh all the treated me like crap again 😂. No one buying their sh*t now.
opinions not facts. the youtube court is not laws.
NewJeans need to get the hell out of that crazy company........fans all over the world hope you guys keep fighting for justice and integrity
Hay otras 4 empresas grandes , una en eeuu, que quieren a las Newjeans y a MHJ. Son chicas talentosas. El grupo aun tiene respaldo de Coca-Cola, Calvin Klein, Nike, etc.
Precej ste se zmotili glede tega!
And Coca-Cola, Calvin Klein, Nike, etc contracts are with ADOR not with NJ girls. These company are interested in using newjeans as their brand, I'm pretty sure they are not interested in running idols agency. And if NJ girls are successful in terminating their exclusive contract, keeping their brand name is another whole different matter. Coca-cola, Calvin Klein, Nike, etc are interested with Newjeans Brand. However, with individuals Hearin, Minji, Hyein, Danielle, Hanni, not so much.
Since when an industrial company supports a group or an idol? They do their business with the agency.
@@RazgrizDavion81
No, las empresas grandes quieren ser representados por individuos y por su buena imagen, las empresas NO hacen contratos con meros nombres.
@@yei-jopbities6100 True except in kpop industry, unless the idol is a known solo artist or of have had a good solo project, idols are mostly known for their brand/ip. The company want to be represented by idols along with their brand/ip. Unfortunately, if NJ girls managed to terminate their contract, it is highly unlikely that Ador will let them keep their brand/ip. Good luck convincing the large company that the individual girls still carry a name that does not belong to them or create new name that probably won't be recognized.
I can guarantee you one thing, many international people who like kpop idol would know idols face and what brand/ip they're belong to, however not all of them (except the core fan) will be able to tell the names of each idol.
NewJeans did absolutely right thing, no artist should stay with a company that schemed to replace them behind their back! 😤
Proof?
Mind you their mama tried to take a company from behind hybes back. With proof
Dear, even in any industry, this happens. 😅 Everyone is replaceable, even CEOs, BOD, a janitor. You don't feel comfortable in your work? Then leave. But know if you are breaking a contract there's always some penalties.involved.
@@minperi6276 lol Hybe failed to prove all those in the court that’s why min hee Jin won during the trial. Hybe doesn’t have any prove that mhj tried to take the company
@@minperi6276 Hybe’s 1900 page document leaked in the National Assembly, and this is the highlight of the documents
No necesitan demandar. Al violar HYBE-ADOR el contrato atacando a las chicas de NewJeans y operando de manera sucia para acabar con ellas nombrándolas directamentes en los documentos auditados mediante eufemismos a las chicas de NewJeans y el nombre de su grupo IMPLICA LA INMEDIATA FINALIZACIÓN DE LOS TÉRMINOS DEL CONTRATO POR LO QUE LA RESCICIÓN ENTRA EN VIGOR Y FUERZA LEGAL SIN NECESIDAS DE DEMANDA. YA ESTÁ ESTIPULADO EN EL CONTRATO
But still, it will need to be validated by the court. Contract cannot be ended automatically even one side already fulfilled all of the contract termination requirement. The court will need to verify those fulfillments of the contract termination requirement. If parties involved in the contract can claim each other "breached a contract", what's the point of making contract in the first place?
First nj contract is with ador.
Hybe and ador are separate companies.
Nj contract is still valid.
If nj wants to cancel their contracts they need to pay the penalty. Or file with the court.