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I love the content! This actually makes sense seeing that GM has invested billions into a new small block V8 coming soon so yeah that would be great
Absolutely 100% 👌
I REALLY hope we get a hybrid. We added a Prius to the collection years ago and I’ve dreamed ever since about a cammed out Camaro making 600+ horsepower with electric assist to get that instant torque and be able to drive it across the country and still get like 40+mpg. Yes please.
Full electric… meh… electric assist… 🔥
I hope they do something that still includes the v8 and compete with ford mustang etc.
As of right now, the entry level sports car market belongs completely to Ford. GM needs to get in on that.
@trashin4k no it doesn't, that title belongs to gr86.
@@hpickettz34wrong again
Ford is killing it right now . Gt40 mk 800 plus hp . Black hourse. Gtd . And now gt500 Cobra announced 800 plus hp
Isn’t that point of the corvette?
Hybrid is about as far as I can go towards the EV world... not a plug in hybrid though. 550whp or more if it is eRay style... ... ... but I can't mentally get behind a fully electric Camaro. Performance or not... no EV screams "tough" or has a presence like a modified V8.
I agree hybrids are the only way to go. I will take 600hp gasser with electric boost........😊😊😊
I like the idea of a hybrid Camaro as long as they offer a manual. Makes sense to bridge the gap between ICE and EV and keep the loyal Bow Tie fans.
HAS to be able to be manual, ordered my ZL1 already
An E-Ray style Camaro would be incredible, honestly. A V8 with hybrid assistance for instant power is the best of both worlds, as long as it isn’t extremely heavy. I wouldn’t want batteries to significantly increase the weight, but technology advances rapidly, so we’ll see… If it turns out one day to be true.
EDIT: And I can definitely now see the ZL1 1LE potentially either holding its value, or perhaps even appreciating some what in the future, especially manual examples. It’ll likely be the last of its kind in many ways.
Hey Matt, thanks for the update! I think the "hybrid" option MAY appease some, however, i am going to say that GM needs to get their act together and bring something out to compete with the 7 gen mustang and stop this nonsense of sitting on the fence to appease both ....camaro owners expect better. Like the people you and I both know, nobody wants a hybrid.- Mark
I'm with it as long as it comes with a manual gearbox and some form of an internal combustion engine.
OMG! I would totally buy a gas/electric assist similar to E-Ray! the acceleration would be insane!
I’m so happy as I took delivery of my 2024 2SS convertible this past Friday and I am loving it! I placed the order back in June as my dealer had some allocations and it went through pretty quick. Just glad I got it ahead of any looming strike!
I hope one of my 2024 2SS, Riptide Blue cars is accepted and built by January :/ I want to upgrade.
One of my dealerships got allocation but Riptide Blue was on engineering constraint 🙄
An E-Ray style Camaro would be sick. Anything too keep the V8 alive.
Have you gotten any good news?
@@Sloimer not yet :/
I would definitely be interested in a Camaro E-28 or something. 455 horsepower v8, and maybe like a 125 electric assist on the front wheels or whatever? Sign me up for that, especially if my ZL1 order doesn’t get accepted lol.
I’ve been saying it all along. GM have never fully stated in a news release that the Camaro is 100 percent dead. I think they needed more time on a new 7th Gen HB. Just my opinion
To answer your question. No a hybrid Camaro should not be a thing in my opinion for two reasons...
#1. It's sort of a slap in the face to all Camaro and muscle car lovers
#2. That would be a stepping stone to a full EV Camaro. Which would just be a sad.
Personally. If car companies are going down the full EV path. I'd say make new name plates and don't destroy the heritage of brands.
For your #2, I disagree. I feel it will be 6th Gen to a 7th Gen full EV crossover if they don’t try a hybrid first. ICE>Hybrid>EV is better than ICE>EV
@Gardian_915 that would be just as bad.
I work for GM and the longer I do the more I'm convinced the CEO doesn't actually like cars or care about the GM fans.
Ford was smart when their CEO said that if people wanted an EV mustang that they can buy the Mach E because the car will never be EV.
Manufacturers need to start standing up and saying "no" to EV's. It's a scam. They are worse on the environment and the vast majority don't want them
been saying this forever, as a huge fan of circuit racing specifically f1, i love track builds and the advancement of technology but i’ll always be a muscle car guy and i’ve been vouching for a hybrid to help push EV battery tech will keeping the v8, at this point they’ve already done the e-ray and the camaro would take up its own space in the muscle car market with the mustang being ICE and the Charger/Challengers being EV
I pray they keep her going.
I think that's a wonderful idea Matt, for 7th generation Camaro to be a E-Ray type car to please the Camaro fans!
But how would that work exactly? The e-ray is an AWD Vette that takes advantage of the battery powered motor to run the front wheels for an incredible launching capability. However, unlike the new C8 (which is mid engine now), the Camaro has always been front engine RWD orientation. Would it be something similar to what Ram did with the e-torque system and put the electric power through the current powertrain to help "assist" the rear wheels? Who knows, it's all pretty hush hush right now.
@TheWolfMatt
I totally agree with that also..
GM always keeps things hush hush, until they surprise us!!
Haha
@@anthonyleathermantonetone4929 Just as long as they don't build something like Ford did in the new Mustang SUV EV. Something soooo hideous that it would take a Ford fanboy to want to purchase. That would completely flop on it's head if they did the same to a Camaro. Better to kill it at that point and bring back the SS 4 door as an electric hybrid methinks.
@TheWolfMatt
I hope not neither..
Chevrolet already has 7 types of SUV's!!
Give us a break!!
I'd buy a hybrid Camaro if the styling is as good as the C8
If gm does this wit the camaro this would be the sickest thing ever it will be crazy in performance I’m just glad to hear there are rumbles of something like this happening I am a huge fan of the eray and if they did this with the camaro it would be very very cool I think people would come around to like it I just need the motor side to come from factory pushing about 500-520 🤣
thanks. i really don't get why they are having trouble filling orders on a car that's selling so poorly. As for a Hybrid, idk. at this point i'm not against that stuff but they havn't proven to me the practicality or the cost or range, and i'm not happy with the price of gas either so there is no good option lately.
They refuse to put any money towards it. Makes me wonder if it’s an EPA/emissions thing
I personally wouldn't mind a hybrid 7th gen Camaro, V8 + Electric motors. I just don't want to see the Camaro nameplate used on a fully electric sedan or something of that nature, just for the sake of keeping the name around...
LethalGarage Friend keep up the great work and i also work with GM ,because alot of people want too see the Chevrolet Camaro save with it's V8 engine rear wheel drive platform 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪💪💪👍👍👍👍
A hybrid V8 would be sick, but I hope it is RWD and not AWD like E-Ray.
Please please keep the Camaro going!!!
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I ordered a ZL1 1LE on April 20th from a dealer that had an allocation and my order is still waiting to be accepted as of now. With the news you gave from the internal source I am hoping mine actually gets built and maybe get it in December.
I remember that survey. Best thing is a 7th Gen hybrid camaro. Not an EV crossover or sedan but another coupe before full EV push/crossover
Getting my 23 M6 ZLE rapid blue next week. 🙏🏼
An "E-ray" Camaro would be fucking amazing, even though I'm notwhere near the point where I could afford it 😂.
Last week I got lucky to put in a allocation for a regular 2024 ZL1 and a deposit of $1000 was required but I was disappointed that the 1LE package wasn’t available because it was my go to package.
Ya I did that in June of 22 . Supposedly it will get here 9/25 maybe ? I have had vin for 2 months .
hey matt, definitely tuning in for the ZL1 1LE news. i had my order for one placed since 1/14/22, but 20 months in still was not receiving an allocation, so jumped on a new '23 ZL1 M6 that suddenly became available at a local dealership in CA. so at least i'm covered while i wait to see if my allocation ever picks up. if it does, i'll trade in my ZL1 for the ZLE. if not, then i can rest easy knowing it wasn't in the cards for me, but i'm not out in the cold without any car to speak of.
We have a production date of October 2nd for our 2SS Black Panther edition. 😊
yep
I’m at 3400 status w/ TPW 9/4 on a ZL1 CE order I placed on 6/22. Not sure if I’m lucky or cursed. Getting it as novelty in hopes the market will be kind for resale. Figured a Camaro guy like yourself would have done the same considering the allocation you mentioned turning down. Do you not trust the resale market for a limited final ZL1 or is it the $100K w/ TTL you couldn’t get past? Or both?
I'm a purist. Have a 2015 ZL1 in Velvet Blue Metallic. No electric not ever... just keep building V8s and boosting the HP and Torque. And stick with the Tremec transmissions. Thrilling to drive.
When I placed my order through my local dealership ( '24 ZL1) it came up about 5k less than when I build it now with the online builder. 77k for a non-1LE is absolutely nuts. There is absolutely ZERO change from a '23.
Great content , always good to hear what is going on with the Camaro , are you still doing Camaro and coffee events , would be good to see some Camaro events.....
I need to find a location to host a meet up. All the old spots are no longer options.
Everybody if you want to see the Chevrolet Camaro save, let's a get petition started right now !!
Hopes are high Bro
i have a 2020 SS 1LE. This hybrid thing must be able to smoke my SS doors off in order for me to even consider it. Can't wait for it to come out though
I am a huge camaro fan I hope they keep making the camaro even if it's a ev car I would buy one save the camaro name good video 📹
I ordered a 2024 2ss from my dealers6in Hamilton Ontario Canada and it got picked up by gmail. The dealership said mine got picked up specifically because it was a manual transmission. Expect it sometime in the spring 2024
Doesn’t matter what you can do . I ordered my zl1 June 2022 I got vin July 2023 . car was supposed to be here today it said it was on transport . Last Thursday all of a sudden it’s not on transport and new date is 9/25 . No one is getting a 24 other than the collector edition .
i wonder if the delays are also as a result of the impending UAW strike?
It’s the carbon fiber wing, don’t add it, or they will deny your order, they can’t get anymore.
I had an order # for a ZL1 1LE but it wasn't accepted by Chevrolet due to the constraint on the 1LE package. Not sure how your update on the latest news plays into that?
I think the dealer was bumping up the MSRP $6,995 a couple months ago when I submitted my build. Latest bump is $10K for a 2024 ZL1 if they get any allocations
I would take a V8 Hybrid Camaro for a 7th Gen and it will share the garage next to my 6th Gen Camaro. If they don't have a V8 then I have my 6th Gen. Not interested in a Full EV.
Hate to say it but I would definitely be interested in it if it was like the e- ray I have a 2023 Camaro ss though but I would still look into one if they came out
SS1LE-ray would break all track records
Or they could just call it the Z28 NALT2 and electric assist
Make the 7th gen look like a 70-73 and take my money lol.....ordered a 2024 LT1 manual, couldn't help it, last chance to buy a 6th gen new.
I just turned down an allocation to order a 2024 2SS CE from a dealership in Florida, I live in North Carolina and I have a order in for the last two months still stuck in the same place. The dealership in Florida wanted $15,000 over MSRP with 10% down of course I told them thanks but no thanks.
$15,000 mark up for an SS GTFO
At the Corvette Bash GM Tadge, made the announcement that they have worked with the organization that was banning all EVs, including the E-Ray, at events are not going to be banning them.
I would consider trading in my 6th gen for a 7th gen if it was like the E-Ray setup
I still love my 2015 1Le
My second Camaro is less then a year. Some Northeno stole my last one and dropped it off stripped next to his house in Oakland like a idiot. Lol.
EROC-Z or IROC-E... I'm trademarking it brb. 3rd gen retro with T-Tops, V8 + Hybrid assist. But they need to keep it mild, keep the costs down. Things are crazy expensive now. Keep the alpha chassis possibly, as it's so good. Just lighten it to make up for the emotor and battery. Make it 1LE like handling. $50k. Next Supra will likely be this way too, I6+hybrid assist.
did you guys ever get a hold of a 2.0l camaro yet
I think a brand new Chevrolet Camaro with Gas and Hybrid V8 engine powertrain with rear wheel drive platform and Option all wheel drive Layout would be awesome And give you the best of both worlds , but with more interior room, head room, leg room, hip room and bigger trunk space, Plus keep the weight of the car down , and offer a bare bones model too for a late 7th generation, plus still 6 speed manual transmission and 10 Auto transmission, that would fix all of the Shortcomings that, 6th Generation Camaro has right now !!! Plus Chevrolet marketing department has to do a better job on marketing the car as well ,because Camaro car Deserves to be saved Because it's a very iconic car, just like the Chevrolet Corvette is 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏🙏
Instant torque can be very addicting! If GM can keep the weight of the electric assist reasonable, mate it with a NA V8, with AWD, this Chicago driver of a 2018 ZL1 would be interested.
Idc how fast it would be if it’s not a v8 scrap the whole thing. And Chevy is not making a v8 hybrid Camaro, at that point you’re prolly gonna have something faster than a c8 and Chevy is not going to allow the Camaro to out preform the vette
After 2 years of trying to get a 1ss 1le, I finally got an allocation. But, I cant get the 1le package, cant even get the black gas door cover. Cancelled my order.
Been saying this for a while…hybrid is the most feasible future for everyone. We still get our gas powered engines with the assistance of a battery. I can get on board with that. The EV push is annoying at minimum and near sighted. Quite simply, it doesn’t make sense. But please, for the love of God, put the Camaro on the platform with more interior space. The 6th gen is sooo tight inside.
I live in houston and currently there’s a zl1 24 listed for $94,560 😭 and a couple of SS going around $60-64,000
Whoever pays that is unintelligent 😊
I will not buy a hybrid I had to use one while my car was in the shop. Stopped working because of battery issues twice. V8 vroom vroom or I'll continue on with my 1st gen pro touring build
I’m kind of confused about the wing. GM won’t let you option it. Are you saying you have to option it at dealer level?
It was working the other day, it seems to only be tied tot he CE now.
@@Lethalgarage damn, I’m not sure if it’s worth trying to add the wing dealer level. You can still add the 1le package if you pick the wheels as an option l.
If it was all wheel drive I would consider that
The hybrid is simply the future of automobiles. I would prefer to see some kind of prototype first before I say yes or no to it.
More than anything, I think the price tag and availability killed the Camaro. To get an SS, it is over $50k. I don't mean to crap on someone's car who bought the 4, 6 or LT1. No disrespect intended, but most Camaro enthusiasts see the SS and ZL1 as the preferred models. Chevy knew the $50k+ models wouldn't sell very many, so they didn't make very many. It was hard to find one at your local dealerships that were spec'd correctly (basically without the thousands of dollars of dealer addons that no one wanted) or one at all to even test drive and at a price that most people could afford. Most people don't want to have to order a car as a way to see it person. It never really had much of a chance to succeed. Chevy sells trucks and SUVs. Cars are an afterthought. I am just glad we were able to get our SS before the crap hit the fan.
Well they would piss off some people but overall I think it would be a good move. I still think they should slow down on the lap time games. At least for their lower models. Take out the b-pillars similar to the Buick concept from 2017 I think. The Avista I believe. Expand the side window so that it can have better outward visibility. Maybe elongate the chassis to accommodate the battery so that it doesnt eat up on the already very little trunk space. Also add in cool naming schemes. Yes this seems counterintuitive to the 6th gen. But I would like to see the Camaro actually make sales. And not being threatened to stop production. If it had all those while having similar performance. I think more people would buy them. Look at the dodge twins. Can barely round a corner and yet they have picked up on sales. Adding big horspower and cool names really helped them out.
Hybrids are cool
a hybrid model would b great. best of both worlds
I really am interested in the ERay. More so than the Z06. The mid engine drive train with the front electric motors make it more appealing to me though, compared to a RWD hybrid Camaro. If they made the Camaro AWD as well that would be something but I don’t think GM would spend the money on it. If the Corvette does end up being it’s own brand I think the model line up will change extensively. Politics my play a role and they wait to see what regulations they have to deal with after 2024.
The E in the E-Ray is pointless, IMO. An E-assist Camaro would be a knock-off of something pointless...again IMO.
Initially, my reaction to a 7th gen hybrid Camaro rumor, is it's very unlikely. But, if i play along as I wait to buy a Dark Horse to replace my 6th gen in a few years.... LOL there are some reasons to think it might happen:
1. The alpha II platform continues in the ct4, ct5 Cadillacs. They are getting refreshes in 2025. So, the 'raw materials' for a 7th gen Camaro are there.
2. The E-Ray hybrid powertrain exists.
3. 7th Gen Mustang reported to eventually have hybrid powertrains, and GM doesn't want Ford have the market to themselves.
4. Fewer ethusiasts are looking forward to EV's as a replacement for their ICE ethusiasts cars. Having hybrid Camaro with the E-Ray power train's 'steath mode' would expose drivers to ~5mi of pure electric driving, perhaps winning over some to a other GM EV's.
Most likely we'll see an hybrid "Corvette E-Ray" type v8 Camaro either as the standard v8 or optional..
It's going to he electric, based on a variant of the BEV3 platform.. Think of a dystopian Neo-Futuristic twist on a cross between a C8 RS7/Urus crossed with the most recent ZL1.. Also sporting a semi-fastback sedan body. (Inside/designer connection in person view/details of the Camaro design study/process along with some technical bits)
Sounds like....failure.
random but do you still got that extra suede for sale?
Just the grey
I would love to see a non plug in camaro v8 hybrid
V-8 bigger than the rest the better !+!!!!
My 2023 V6 RS got a check engine light ( check EGR ) flashed on the DIC ........... 3800 miles / 9 months old seems to be in some kind of limp mode , sounds odd / less power . Any comment's WTF ??
a rat chewed a wire
Hi, Matt. I hope I don't waste your time, but is Chevy still making an SS 1LE? Or is the 1LE package completely gone across all Camaro platforms? Lastly, is there a difference, besides the supercharged V-8, between a ZL1-1LE and an SS 1LE? Thanks in advance if you get a chance to read this and answer.
The SS 1LE is still on the table as far as I can tell. Sounds like limited constraints currently, but the ZL1 1LE will most likely not return.
@@Lethalgarage , thanks Matt!
a hybrid zl1 that gets 30mpg and no degradation in performance would be a hit. All electric i wouldn't do though
I ordered a ZLE in 2021 and my dealer about 2 months ago called and said they won’t be getting any and also no Rapid Blue color as an option. I’ll be looking for a 2015-2016 Manual Challenger Hellcat now, almost 3 years of waiting and no Camaro , shame on you Chevy
I mean, you could blame Chevy to appoint, but it was actually your dealers fault for not having any allocation for the car. You could’ve gone to any dealership and found one that had an allocation and place your order they weren’t difficult to get back in 2021.
Seventh GEN Camaro based off of second GEN.
EL1 ⚡️ would be a pretty fitting name for a high-performance Camaro hybrid
Or an E/28
Folks don’t realize that a hybird Camaro is better than a fully EV camaro but yet still complain,,, if that’s the case how about no camaro 🤷🏾♂️
Exactly
So is it true that the z28 will be the last of the Camaro heard 5.5twinturbo
Unfortunately, it's not looking like it.
@@Lethalgarage that sucks
I mean it's tough. There is a political push for EV's. But to be honest, what ever they do, I'm sure we will love it. I still enjoy mine very much so. From the chassis, exhaust burbles/cracks, power, comfort, and what all non-camaro owners won't ever believe: great fuel economy, 30 mpg in a 460hp NA V8, lol.
Their coming out with a Blazer SS EV that would be a good vehicle to test to see if people like a standalone EV.
Luket they already have a blazer SS EV 557hp
@marcojordan7175 yeah coming out soon. It's going to be a fast SUV. I was just saying if people want to feel how quick an EV is the Blazer is a good one to test to see how the Camaro will be once its full EV.
if a strike happens it might finish off a 6th gen. i wouldnt rule out a hybrid camaro but it doesnt excite me.
Why do they even say they are discontinuing the camaro at that point
GM in the collectors edition announcement announced the Camaro was taking a hiatus, not being discontinued. They really only announced the end of the sixth generation.
Looks like the electric buick
That would be a very big no
You’ve got a good method of talking about info, like your videos, but that background music makes it hard to finish a video. Question, is it shown statistically to improve view counts and followers to have that? Or more just your personal taste?
I honestly thought I had it so low it wasn't an issue. It's something most people do on talking head videos to fill the voids. Maybe next video I'll ditch it.
In all honesty, I don’t care what gm does with the Camaro. I have my 23 zl1 and don’t plan on getting rid of it for some years, probably pass it down to my son when he shows me he’s responsible enough
Anyone that actually has been following these cars knows there will be no 24 Zl1 1LE's. Its not rumor its been a solid fact for months now. Maybe some left over 23's that became 24's but there is no 24 orders being accepted and none will be.
Im a Camaro fan but it looks like GM lost against Ford, with a proper final edition of the Mustang..they are discusing wether you get a badge or a watch and if maybe you could buy one, while Ford is launching the wildest Mustang ever..They should be thinking in a Camaro with Z06 engine for a last edition..at least before they reapear in the e-ray version. Nice video! 👏
Gas with electric assist could be insane! Maybe even make the backseat slightly bigger so I can convince my wife that it makes a great second car for the kids 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
It's like my prayers have been answered camaro e ray wow goodbye Godzilla Gtr lol
Ban EV'S
V8 only
I really don’t mind an EV Camaro IF they would offer it as a drivetrain option. Heck they could even spell the EV version “CamEro” 😂
There are no current plans to put a V8 in another Camaro. GM confirmed
Sounds like they changed their minds or are at least looking into this style setup. Again all rumor until confirmed
Sure.....