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I’m an old school DC user. Glad to see this happen. It may be time to move into the future. Thanks for the video.
Of course if you only use Blunami decoders you don't need a DCC base station but can use a DC controller to supply power to the tracks and the Bluetooth app to control the locos.
Yes!! DC, DCC or even battery!
Yes we are excited about this possibility!
That is AWSOME. THANK YOU
Thanks!
I dont know what I'm more impressed by. This amazing decoder, or the fact that after all these decades, someone finally made a locomotive where you can simply slide the top off to access the inside without having to take off the whole body at the risk of cracking the shell and/ or losing those stupid little screws! 😂
Love the video! Thanks for doing the install with an adapter! Knowing that you can get it fully "plug and play" for DC-ready locomotives is a HUGE plus! 🙂
You're the future of us in model railroading ❤️
I am excited to eventually put one of these in my locomotives. As a certified Soundtraxx Factory Trained Installer, I am waiting for the popularity to grow to where they incorporate PNP Boards and the 21 Pin Decoders with Bluetooth as well before I start making the full conversion. Best sound in that HO model is using two of Soundtraxx Minicube speakers wired in series. I'm also an Android user and I haven't seen where their app is Amdroid compatible as of yet. Great video Jimmy! - Jason
Can’t wait for them to fit N scale!!!!!
N Scale and Android will make this a total win for me.
@@NJP76 patience, grasshopper.. (grin). We’re working on both, so stay tuned. Hopefully not too long, but it’ll take some time. Thanks!
@@goaliegeorge No worries. I will definitely be keeping a watch on this project. There is a lot to like here.
I have watched a few of your videos and finally came to the conclusion that you are the doppelganger of Lois C.K. ,the only fundamental difference being that you remain content with your life because you do what you want and train in solitude instead subjecting yourself to the frustrations of socializing with the general public
Thanks for the great video and review!
It looks like a great product which makes setting up lash-ups of locos so much easier. I also love the fact that locos can be battery powered in larger scales. Who likes cleaning track?! Thanks for all the great content.
I don't like cleaning track. That is why I'm using Dead Rail/Battery on Board with my HO scale diesel locomotives using LocoFi sound decoders and a Galaxy Edge S7.
Yes exactly! And we have a video about consisting on our channel if you want more info on the feature.
Was impressed that according to Larry Puckett's video, it also works on DC layouts and via battery power... So now, Jimmy, are you having any fantasies about converting your garden railway to use Blunami? 😊Thanks for the demo!
Yes indeed. This particular board format is not ideal for larger scale locos, but we have more board formats in the works.
I got see George demo this. One other thing was Consisting. As it was explained( could be wrong) but the control engine does all the work. Of course the engines all blunomi. But speed matching wasn’t as big of an issue as the system actually talks back and forth and there by can do auto adjust. He explained it much better, but makes consisting and need to speed match much easier. Great Video.
That is cool!! Who knows maybe by the time I build my next permanent layout they will have it for Android🤔🤷♂️ Thanks for sharing. Happy modeling!! -Jason
As someone who wants to get into the hobby, what a cool piece of tech!
As someone who wants to get into the hobby, what a ridiculous price! $170 bucks plus a DCC train.
Wow! Awesome stuff. I've been using my DCC++ setup for the past few years but this really is nice. Just need Android support!
I've been using BlueRails Bluetooth decoders in my garden train for a while and really like it. It's only downfall was that I needed to put a separate Bluetooth speaker in my locomotive for sound. I'm glad to see them working with Soundtracks to create this new decoder.
They do have Android versions of the throttle for their original BlueRail decoders as well as a Bachmann version for Bachmann's EZ, so I expect an Android version for this will not be too far behind. The biggest additions appear to be the ability to adjust the CVs.
Android will be coming in the future. Thanks!
Just for iOS.... I thought that was a thing of the past now.
good vid thanks lee
We got a Rapido GP9&Slug on pre-order. OVR is getting a Blunami in for it. Will still be dc4ever😋. It will also will be the loco on a future switch layout. We'll be able to goto clubs/other modelers layouts&run no matter what there running.
This is long overdue. Rail Pro by Ring Engineering has been ahead for years with their system. I love how the DCC guys are finally catching up. Now I am 100% Sold when Soundtraxx makes their own touch screen to go with Blunami. I do not want to buy a ipad or run trains from my phone. Other than that, this is a great step! I can't wait to see what Lok Sound offers.
I am never going to DCC. I can't afford it but Blunami... yessiree!
Several comments: First, before cutting the shrinkwrap on your decoder, CHECK THE WARRANTY. At least one other manufacturer (TCS) tells you the warranty is VOID if the shrinkwrap is cut or damaged. Second, this decoder costs $170! That's not out of line for a sound decoder - most sound decoders run between $90 and $150 - but unless you plan to install sound (as you do, apparently) you'll pay WAY more than you would pay for a traditional non-sound decoder PLUS a DCC++EX system. Third, This is a pretty expensive option if all you want is a better software interface to modify CVs. A cheap and easy route is to use DecoderPro, which is a free download. (You used to have to buy a dedicated SPROG board, but recent versions of DecoderPro now talk to all the major DCC systems.)
Trimming the shrink wrap to access the plug does not void our warranty. If you remove more shrink wrap then you can void the warranty. We have instructions on this in the manuals section of our website.
You get what you pay for, and as for soundtraxx it’s worth every goddamn penny. also, this is a new product and costs will come down eventually and inflation too
@@SoundtraxxDCC Thanks for the clarification. I stand corrected.
@@rwissbaum9849 No problem. If ever have any questions we are here to help!
@@hessxpress3016 Thanks for the feedback!
Interesting. A few things need to happen with this before I'm *really* into it:
1) It needs to support N gauge.
2) It needs an Android app to control it (have voted on their site).
3) It needs to be available in the UK / Europe.
Thanks for the feedback!
This is a game changer. Control stations are obsolete. What speakers would you use for sound?
This is awesome! As a long time DC user looking for more precise control, this would be waaay easier and less intimidating to jump into digital control and sound than any other DCC system out there. The only thing I'd wish for is some sort of physical controls. I've seen some older videos of people linking a game controller to the iOS bluerail app, so if that's possible to do with an android Blunami app then it's game on!
Very cool Jimmy, Thank you for sharing. I am hoping that an N-scale version with Android software would be available within a year for a Christmas display project I am working to complete by Christmas of 2023.
Me too.. 😉😉
Bluetooth: pass, iphone: hard no
Android will be coming. Just takes time. Thanks.
I typically only use Bluetooth for audio, and depending on my environment, it can be incredibly spotty. I wonder how this would do in a club environment with dozens of devices with active
Bluetooth connections.
I would love to see a FOSS version of this or to see this protocol published like with LocoNet. A WiFi version would also be great!
I see SoundTraxx here in the comments.
Your videos are always excellent and keep me connected to a hobby I hope to get back to in the not-too-distant-future!
Ok, I take it all back! What I missed before - and this is the crucial point - these decoders will function using DCC track power OR DCC track power. This means you can take your Blunami-equipped locomotive to a friend's layout and run it from your iPhone - you don''t have to ask "do you have a DCC system?" THAT is the game changer: Blunami will put DCC command stations out of business - all we have to do is connect 16 VDC to our rails and go. (This is really only an option for new hobbyists: changing out perfectly good decoders in an existing roster is difficult to justify economically; but a new hobbyist can buy a DC power supply and know that there is a simple upgrade path to DC.) Now, we Android users just need to wait for the Blunami app...
That's just dropped a nuke on the DCC power base market. I've said for years that DCC was decades behind the times and it's not all it's cracked up to be. Yes, you can run multiple locos and form consists and turn lights on and off at the push of a button, but when you have to delve in to CV's it's like realizing there was a toaster sat on the edge of your bath the entire time! Programming CV's is like going back to a computer from the 1990s where you have to do each individual thing one at a time for every single loco that you own. It's a nightmare! I have literally twenty or so locos sat in a drawer waiting for decoders that I've been putting off for years because I've dreaded having to set them up individually and I've been losing patience waiting for someone to revolutionize the base units so that we don't have to even think about CV's anymore. The closest thing I've seen is computer control where you completely wipe all the CV's on all the locos and the PC software does it all for you, but I completely lost hope when the instructions I read told me that I have to set up two points on my layout at a specific distance from each other and time on a stop watch how many seconds it takes each loco to get from the first point to the second point at full speed three times.... *WHAT?!* You're a computer! I just set up like fifty blocks for detection and occupancy. You do it, dumbass!!! Like, who the hell programmed that?! I need a lie down.
Blunami may just be the thing for you :) I handed it to my 10 year old and he ran the train with no problems. Nothing he did was prototypical, but he changed sound selections, volume, reverb, lighting effects and more with no instruction and had a blast.
Now, if only they can make it easy to choose a track theme and choose rolling stock to go on a layout. Even in the small hobby stores, there are so many choices of livery and era to try and get your head around . :)
I hope a few more manufacturers start bring the ease of programming for the main things into the mix. I would not run my layout on Bluetooth but to program the decoder, this beats the pants off messing with CV's
Brendon White - the way to stop being over whelmed by the selection is to take the time to really define what you want from the hobby. If all you want is watch colorful engines run in circles, you may be doomed. But for a great number of us, we focus on one or two railroads, certain types of industries and the freight cars that support those industries. Add in a tight era to model, and most of what you see in the stores are no longer on the table.
I have friends that seem to buy one or two of every engine that comes on the market. We never see those engines, except when we visit and the closed engine boxes come out for inspection. Buy less, build a layout - any layout - and run more.
Great video as usual. If possible, I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on bluetooth "LocoFi 3 WiFi Sound Decoder , thanks
Was big into HO in the early 70's. It's fascinating what the new technology is capable of these days! How does Bluetooth work with multiple locos and one mobile device?
You can run multiple locomotives together in a consist or separately using multitrain mode. We have videos on our channel about this!
This is cool. Definitely brings the hobby up a level. What power level should I set the track to? I feel like having full power constantly is a bit overkill but don't want to have it too low that it won't run properly at higher speeds.
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Our Support Team can help you with this: support@soundtraxx.com or (970)259-0690 ext. 22
This is a great video. I do appreciate that Bluetooth is moving into other scales.
I am an O-scale modeler, and Lionel has been doing this for a few years now. It is great that I can take my new Lionel engine out of the box and run it with my MTH engines. Little, if any, modification is needed. (Please understand that I am not bragging, it is just nice to see Bluetooth move to other scales in larger numbers)
There are some limitations. Sometimes your phone does have a small hiccup, and you lose your Bluetooth connection. You reconnect the engine and learn to deal with it.
Another limitation that I did not see a solution for mentioned here is MU consists - how does Tsunami address this? Bluetooth is really only designed to run one device efficiently at a time. Lionel has a pseudo fix for this in some locomotives, but it’s not used widely. I’m interested to see how DCC manufacturers address this.
Lastly, for those of you who like handheld throttles, Bluetooth will be a smartphone-only based system (at least at the moment).
I love watching this channel to get a good look at what is available in other scales and tech. I’m not switching out of O-scale, but new ideas are always great to hear about.
Thanks.
Check out our consisting video for more details. SoundTraxx UA-cam channel. Thanks!
Consisting is not a problem with Blunami. Like George says we have a video on our channel - check it out! There are different Bluetooth protocols for different products/uses.
Lionel has been doing this for years! It hasn't been missing at all. About time the rest catch up!
There are quite a few more features involved with the new Blunami App. Check out some of our videos!
Dumb question. How dose it handled phone calls? Because i don't want to hear someone yelling through my locomotive like a bluetooth speaker. Lol. I would tho love this for the box car stuff where you can probably play music through it for like a music stand at the train station or something. Probably be good for smaller locomotives as well if you hard wire it from the box car to the train. That's how a lot of people made Thomas DCC in ho scale. Just had a decoder hidden in Annie and clarabel. Or Troublesome Truck with a load.
No issues. I was able to take a call while testing the decoders, so fire away! The BT headsets use a slightly different protocol, and therefore are unaffected. Thanks.
I am curious what you think about the ESP32 WiFi LCC decoders that people are working on?
I think Bluetooth will be beneficial for deadrail layouts, but I am not sure there is really a benefit for DCC/LCC layouts.
What do you think about the Bluetooth switch decoder from Digikeijs?
This is what I've been waiting for!
Now if only we can get it on Android 😜
Coming at some point, time will tell. Hopefully not too long! Thanks.
😊
A big step forward, but a bigger step would be to get Bluetooth to the points, signals, sensors etc. That would save shipload of cabling.
You can already do that with DCC, just the two wires coming to the decoder.
I have done one of these in my BLI On30 C-16 2-8-0s. Works flawlessly powered by the Digitrax DCS-52 and controlled by the DCS or my iPad mini. I hooked it up to an old DC power pack, put the throttle in full power and ran the loco with my iPad. You can program it on the fly. I am also noticing a number of the Lego train guys are posting videos using the Blunami in their trains. The Blunami has a lot of applications it can be used in. What I am waiting to see is guys in the Radio Controlled Military Tank community to start using these for sound and lights. You have all the major diesel sounds on the decoder. One could easily adapt a Blunami to a tank. The only thing missing would be the tread noise.
now just to wait another year to get this in N scale :P
Can you consist locomotives together easily in bluetooth? or do you need to go to all the hassle of programming the consist CV's in each locomotive?
Pretty cool. Might be tempted if it wasn't iOS only.
Way above my knowledge base but hey, be excited and go for it!
Thats the great thing about the Blunami App it is way easier to use than a command station to set up features. I handed it to my 10 year old and he ran the train with no problems. Nothing he did was prototypical, but he changed sound selections, volume, reverb, lighting effects and more with no instruction and had a blast.
@@SoundtraxxDCC - but he's a kid. I'm not so technically inclined...😁
@@andycrawford9870 Yes kids to have an advantage here, but my kids don't have their own phones or video games so they are not your average example of kids today. The app is pretty intuitive and easy to use. Plus we have several videos already showing you how to use it and more in the works. I think it would not be as difficult to learn as you might think. :)
soooooo big question, since the signals not going through the track what's the range? Because it becomes susceptible to being blocked or degraded since the signal is not always with the locomotive on the track
We advertise up to 100’, but there will be things that could affect it, but not drastically. We tested in house across the building through office walls and was fine, so most layouts will be fine for range. I hope this helps.
This has me questioning my life choices. I STRUGGLE installing decoders in my N scale locos. That was basically plug and play.
This is not new technology. Bachmann has train sets with Bluetooth. It was called Bluerail. Now this setup is much better with an easier install.
BlueRail has their own and worked with Bachmann. Now they are working with Soundtracks
Yes we worked with Bluerail on this and it is much more advanced than their previous products.
So its only available on Apple devices! I guess Apple is the Betamax of today, and Android is the VHS of today!
how does it work with multiple locos on a layout? do you have to keep connecting and disconnecting the blue tooth to each loco
Phones can keep multiple Bluetooth devices connected simultaneously. I have not had 2 blunami decoders together, but I would assume you could connect multiple locomotives.
You can easily control multiple locomotives. See our UA-cam channel for more info!
There Bad to the Bone Jimbo what I'm waiting for is for Sound Tracks to get one designed for N Scale & one with keep alive so when your Engine hits that small spot with minimal power like a Turnout the Engine can keep Running but what Would be Really Awesome Battery powered locomotives that have batteries that can go the Distance without the Use of Any Track Power.. I know that might be a Way off but hey we have Battery powered pickups Now let's see some Real break throughs in the Model Railroad World with less Wiring & solder..
To add I'd like see what ESU has in the Works for Bluetooth & ISO aren't us Android Guys left out Enough come on Designers get the App out for us Guys those Fruit Phones can be expensive just for Certain Apps..
Take Care Jimmy.. Allen D
Stay tuned. We’re working on the android app. So, no need for other brands. Just takes time. Thanks.
Are they going to produce any for N scale?
Hopefully, time will tell, but this is just the first of the line. Stay tuned.. thanks!
So, last year for Christmas I was gifted a Lego locomotive that was Bluetooth operated. Is this the same system? Only using DC power? If that’s true, and this is a game changer for me. I will definitely go to DCC ready HO scale and add these little Bluetooth connectors it looks like it will save a lot of money and time. But still, my only problem is space. That’s why I have stuck with N scale for so long. Thanks again for some great information and an awesome video Jimmy. Cheers…I can’t wait to see what you come up with on Thursday.
This is a new product so it is not the same system. Blunami has a much more robust feature and sound library than any Lego models have had thus far. You can use the BLU-2200 in DC, DCC or with battery power. This particular board format is too large for N Scale, but we are looking into more board formats in the future. N scale will be a challenge though.
@@SoundtraxxDCC that’s great to hear… bigger and better things….(or smaller) 👍🏼
@@davidf9630 :)
I thought you were N Scale Modeler? You need to say this is either N Scale or HO Scale. Because I haven't seen a small enough pin system in N Scale.
I’ve seen this, and how you wired the layout. But how do you power the layout. For example if I use this decoder?
One of the coolest things about this decoder is that you can use it on a DC layout. So pretty much as long as there is power to a layout, you can run it.
You can also run Bluanmi with on board battery power.
Wouldn’t it be great if they built them for N scale, and the same board just worked for all scales. Sort of 1 production line to satisfy across scales. Just thinking.
I think they're working on it. They're just a lot less space for a decoder like this so it usually takes a special board for each manufacturer.
So you have to have a DCC system installed already? How does it interface with other locos you already have on standard decoders??? Can it be run from a regular DCC throttle?? If no, then I can't see very many people going to this except new model railroaders. ...Claude
Jimmy, thoughts on the difference between an Arduino based DCC++ system and this? I've been using my phone through wifi for years, actually 3 phones. Is this tsunami just catching up with open source DCC?
No this decoder actually doesn’t even require DCC, just track power. Everything is handled internally and through the app.
@@DIYDigitalRailroad Or battery power for Dead Rail/Battery on Board use.
Hi Jimmy. Great video. I'm probably in the minority, but I'm more comfortable with a hand controller rather than sliders on a screen. Not sure what is going on in the settings with Forward and Reverse directional control; why wouldn't you want these?
It will go to 2.4 ghz
Do I understand correctly, that you can use this decoder with only your phone, and no other equipment???
Well, power, but yes! Phone and the decoder, done. 👍🏻
As long as you have power, yes.
Seems kinda like the railpro system
Much more advanced!
@@SoundtraxxDCC I fell that rail pro is more advanced with how the locomotives talk to one another and can change pulling power based on what the lead locomotive is doing. Aswell as being able to monitor Temperature and no need to have to speed match
N scale and must be cost effective to retrofit in my locomotives. Fixed incomes only grow at below the level of inflation. Just sayin...
I don't disagree.........
Change is the only constant.
But I sure miss going into my hobby shop, ordering 10 MDC Roundhouse 3 bay hopper cars and when they came in a week later the bill was $28.50. I little enjoyable assembly and do it again next payday.
I don't NEED anything hobby wise.....but still miss the cheap analog blue box days!!!! 🤨
hi. Is it Bachmann locos compatible?
You can install the decoder in Bachmann locos. Contact our Support Team if you have more questions: support@soundtraxx.com or (970)259-0690 ext. 22
So does it work with standard DCC controllers?
Yes
Yes it works in DC, DCC or with battery power.
Neat I idea, but completely irrelevant to me until they get an Android app. Also, can you consist these using Bluetooth?
Blunami, while exciting, doesn't suit me at all. It is a great product for those using DC, and battery equipped "dead rail" systems. But for those with established DCC rosters and layouts, and especially large layouts, Blunami isn't necessary. Unless you only have Blunami decoder equipped locomotives you're still going to need a DCC system. Also, Blunami only offers four consists addresses, as opposed to 127 on standard DCC systems (hence why Blunami isn't very useful on large and club layouts.). And Blunami decoders are significantly more expensive than Tsunami2 decoders. So while it's a nice concept, I'm going to pass on Blunami and stick with Tsunami2, Econami, ESU-LokSound, and other DCC decoders.
EDIT: This is in response to George's reply below. Please disregard my comments on consisting with the Blunmai app and decoders. I forgot that with regular DCC controllers you are usually limited to four or six recalls (how many active addresses or consists) in the controller. The Blunami app also lets you program more than four consists, only you can only keep four active in the controller at any time.
That’s 4 consists PER device. So, 127 consist addresses is limited. And, with unlimited number of locos that can be added to a consist, you have more than DCC can imagine. We need to chat, I’m not sure you realize the capabilities of this fully. Email me.
@@goaliegeorge Hi George! I just added an edit to my previous comment. I realized my error regarding Blunami consists.
Yes Blunami will not be for everyone. Especially those who have invested heavily in DCC, but Blunami will work with your DCC locos if you want to have a few locos that are Blunami equipped for certain reasons. Like you have a few engines the kids or grandkids like to run - Blunami is great for them, but you can switch them back to DCC operation when you are running them with your other trains for example.
Are there any good options for Android phones that are noob friendly?
Yes there are some, but I can't seem to post them.
@@EFO-of-southeastern-Michigan you could just say their name and people can look them up
Android app will be coming in the future, just takes time. Thanks.
@@AnonOmis1000 I love Jimmy’s videos and always look forward to his next release. I agree that Blunami is a game changer for DCC folks. Since my return to HO scale model railroading, I’ve become very involved with digging deeper into Dead Rail/Battery on Board power for HO.
I read an interesting comment about posting comments and replies on UA-cam videos this morning, posted by Computer Hope regarding “Why can't I comment on UA-cam videos?”. In that post, Computer Hope noted, “To prevent users from repeatedly violating the terms of service, UA-cam requires all commenters to have an account (channel). If you try to leave a comment when you are not signed in, you will be prompted to log in or create a channel.”.
To verify this comment by Computer Hope, I clicked on many of the posters’ icons for their UA-cam channels in the comments section of this video. They all appear to have a UA-cam channel, so that seems to be a true statement.
I can’t wait to learn even more about Blunami. I’ve been visiting the Soundtraxx UA-cam channel almost every day to try to learn more about Blunami and its use with Dead Rail/Battery on Board for HO scale.
I do not know why RailPro do not get mention when it comes to latest and greatest as they had this technology for I guess about 5 years now . I wish I bought RailPro instead of NCE but i learnt of RailPro after I bought. Even Ken Patterson mention them around this time but promoted NCE instead. RailPro's setting speed is very easy and you do have to speed match it does it for you. Go have look. An know not against other system catching up, good see.
At the risk of a bit of necro-commentary: The future has been here for quite a while though... Hasn't it?
Marklin, Roco, ESU, and other European manufacturers were well into wireless operation via apps for tablets and smartphones from their control stations more than half a decade ago. Right down to remote switching on your layout from said devices.
Aside from being bluetooth vs wireless, was this really considered a innovative step in the US scene a year ago?
I'm genuinely curious as I came across your stuff looking at some n-scale layout video's, and don't pay attention to the US side of things.
All this tech is cool and all, but at $135 a pop, things like this make the hobby even more unreachable for people. Basic DC setups are expensive enough. I'll just stick with my good old DC layout
Hard Pass....
I'm sorry but it doesn't excite me. I've worked for two of the largest IT companies for the past 15 years so to say I love tech is an understatement. But this just doesn't excite me at all. I have enough screen time outside of the model railroading hobby. The last thing I need is to sit in my phone more.
Same thing for me. Already doing 8 hours of AutoCAD per day, don't need to spend more time on a phone.
Totally agree. The last thing i want to have in my hand in the train room is a dam phone! This decoder has its place, just not my place!
My NCE ProCab throttle is perfect for running a model railroad and all the phone throttles i have used are rubbish and awkward to use.
Leave bluetooth for your mouse!
Cheers Brendon
Will this ever come to N scale?
They are working on it!