I Drive The Electric BMW i4 M50 For The First Time!
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2022
- Kyle and Jordan are in Las Vegas for CES 2022 where BMW kindly pulled out an i4 for them to take for a quick drive! This is the first opportunity where we are able to test this car and we are sure there are plenty more in-depth EV testing videos to come. One thing to note is that the guys were saying M50"I" however since this is not a combustion vehicle it's just M50.
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Forgive me for saying M50i - it shouldn’t have the “i” as it’s not a combustion vehicle. Old habits! Anyway, I truly enjoyed this vehicle. I need to get this back to back against Model 3 Performance on track and see what’s what. Hopefully we can film quite a bit with the new BMW EVs coming out!
Watch car wow. They did exactly that and it wad pretty even with Tesla slightly faster of the lime but BMW I4 winning the 1/4 mile
@@Mufcforever-sl2gf eh quarter mile seems boring. I’m talking a full track review with left turns and maybe right ones if we’re feeling spicy
@@KyleConner would think the M3P is better on track given its weight advantage.
@@Mufcforever-sl2gf
But let's have more than the 58% SOC Car Wow did!
@@hotrod182 why does that matter? Any modern EV should deliver the demanded power down to let's say 8%
I think what a lot of Tesla and EV fanatics don't understand is the value of solidity. They'll quote range and acceleration and say this car costs so much and our EV is faster and gets better range. But so what? As long as you get strong performance and reasonable range you still get what you pay for in a car. And EVs are cars. You pay for quality, finish, materials, chassis development, body solidity and so forth and not just range and performance. This is a seriously premium car and yeah, it costs serious money. Thanks for the review.
They are the pioneer what gave us the new EV universe, but they got overtaken already left and right from the competition in 2021.
Ever used public chargers? If you are not confident in the network you will hesitate to use it for anything except in town driving
@@someguyonaguitar yes I drive an EV and a big diesel for long distance - tried several providers, mostly good. I guess it depends where you live it that works for you.
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 agree location matters. in USA at this time Tesla is the only network I would trust for charging. Rarely do I come across EA or evgo chargers with any cars. Tesla always has cars
@@someguyonaguitar yep I can understand this argument - if you depend on longer trips and you know that one charger network works then the other....hard to beat.
"Spicy meatball right here" I'm so glad this exists. It's so refreshing compared to all of the EV crossovers out there. Great review guys!
Absolutely love the way bmw always go that extra mile to ensure that all the buttons and knobs are in the place you expect them to be, even when the car is reversed for driving in the UK, everything exactly where is should be unlike many other manufacturers. Interior is always beautiful and gives every driver the perfect driving position.
carved from one piece, that's how a BMW should feel, great to see they kept all the good BMW and added electric
Some Tesla fans in the comments saying that the Model 3 Performance is faster and better preforming. True but not enough it's less than a car length difference. Plus the carwow race showed the BMW to win. The BMW is 1000 lbs heavier and still performs on par with the Tesla while giving a better build quality, very good tech, and way better luxury. Personally I would rather buy an BMW m4 until they make the electric M cars on a electric platform like the ix and ixm60.
I'm no BMW fan and no Tesla hater. I'm pretty neutral when it comes to both brands. I would choose this i4 any day above the Model 3. Heads up screen, body shape, boot space, interior styling, range. Everything here is on point. Yes there is no frunk but that is a small inconvenience.
It was funny how you showed how much rear leg room there is and then got into the front seat and just CRUSHED anyone's legs that would have been sitting behind you as you adjusted the Dr seat. 😀
It looks a little cramped, but no more than a Model 3 which is its main competitor.
@@willaerley7140 I noticed this too, and will be interested. I'm 6'2", and I can set my drivers seat to my normal position and still sit in the back behind it without my legs cramped in the back. Just not much foot room unless I raise the front seat as well. So at first look, it seems less spacious in the rear? Definitely less headroom. Look forward to seeing the more in depth comparison on stuff like this.
@@JamesKirk1988 True. The only way I feel comfortable in the back of my Model 3 is if I take my shoes off so I can get my feet under the seat.
Really considering the edrive40. And for transparency: In my country BMW put correct ranges on the site. You can use a slider to choose your driving ranging from 100% city to 100% motorways, set the outside temperature and airconditioning and you get a range for your settings. So on the motorways (At around 75mph) at colder temperatures you should get around 340km range.
1st USA review on US soil, well done! The car (and the iX) is an instant success with the entire MY2022 USA allocations already filled. I ordered mine in Dec 2022, and was told I'd have to wait until late Q3 or Q4 and it would be a MY2023. Will be a long wait for me...Great 1st drive! Excited for your full review!
not a 4 person car anymore once you sat in driver seat and adjusted it lol, rear leg room disappeared.
The most competent car reviewer on UA-cam right now. Keep it up!
Wow thanks! But what I think you mean is the most competent car reviewer at fixing his glasses every 30 seconds 😄
he really is. no one is near as technical.
@@KyleConner 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Björn Nyland, Savagegeese and Kyle are all awesome!
talks too much.
I've always been a HUGE BMW fan.. I actually really like the styling in this car. Interior is beautiful. I especially like the "frozen" blue color at the beginning with those rear fender flares.
Sharp looking car IMO!
I'm always impressed with how much Kyle can talk
Can’t wait for ur range test
Finally. I'd love to see a range test on the AWD and RWD with the 19 inch wheels.
I'm not hog wild with that front end. To go from the E31 8 series & i8 to that front end is nigh unforgivable.
The car didn't drive itself into the ambulance either. Smart.
One item I need to correct: you have not driven all modern BMW’s! You and the rest of US are missing out on iX3 - a car I wanted to hate but loved so much that there’s one in my garage since dec 30th and today we had the first slides on the snow with traction off😍
Kyle thanks for bringing this quick look of the new BMW!
Obviously you had a lot of fun 🤩 - nice to watch! Thanks for your first impressions, have been waiting already. Can’t wait to get my i4m50 in March (Europe). Btw, here it has 544 HP in boost mode.
It's actually the same power level. It's common to use bhp in the US, which equals about 1.014hp. Hence the slight difference.
Cost as much as a Tesla (Model Y long range starts $63k, $67-$68 OTD), but definitely has better quality.
Great I'm excited all in for EV NO MORE EXPENSIVE GAS 93 NOW I CAN GET BMW AGAIN
“Good rear legroom for me. I’m at 6’1”, bla, bla.”
Then sits in driver’s seat and promptly moves seat back and lowers it. Ya think the rear passenger would still be happy-ish??
Who cares about legroom on a sporty limousine.
Love the first review. Any luck in updated video of the M50 on the track or more detailed review as you were hoping for ?
Seems like somebody did really enjoy that ride 🤙
There's nothing odd about the car not giving you power for those high steering angles. That's the "stability control". It's the car telling you that you suck at driving! For your given steering input, the amount of power you're asking for would cause you to spin out. You should thank BMW for preventing you from wrapping around a light pole.
Getting mine in April! So exited
Mine is on order i4 M50 in the Frozen Blue you showcased at ~4:25 - looks like I should be more excited than I already was!
It looks like there's even less rear visibility than the Tesla Model 3 or the Mustang Mach E.
Love your review 👍We have a i4 M50 on order. Mid-spring for delivery in Texas. Currently have four BMW love them. Been driving BMW's for 20 years.
Awesome!! I'd love to get one if i could afford it.
@@essentials1016 save 20k and get the tesla. It's quicker, faster,has better range, superior tech, safer, better security. Could go on and on
@@Ds-pw7gd And a super crappy quality compared to BMW
@@Juha852 100% agree with you.... and no thread would be complete without a Tesla Fan Boy chiming in.
@@Ds-pw7gd you are the kind of person that gives tesla fans a bad rep...dude you're more annoying than vegans and anti-vaxxers combined. 0-60 is not the only metric for a car performance, BTW, both m3p and this have same 0-60 thanks to rollout vs no rollout
Man I love this car or we’ll the 4 series coupe and the 3 series.
I’d be intrigued to see an i4 wagon, but I realize I’m probably in a minority…
Probably won't happen, but as is rumored recently, BMW is discussing an electric i5 wagon for the next-gen 5 series (starting in 2023/4) 😊
100% agree. It could be the best looking EV wagon around. Until Volvo release a V90 electric Polestar 😁
Cant wait to see you shred that thing in colorado!!
I was going for the M50 but the only reason i wanted it was for the AWD feature. (I drive in snow). But i went for the i40 with full equipment pack and longer range instead. Awesome car. Cannot compare to model 3, it is just miles ahead. Tesla people wouldn't understand even if i bothered to explain.
Tesla fans buy cars the same way you or I would shop for appliances.
I own a Tesla and I understand. They quality and feel of the i4 cannot be matched by Tesla. I was so excited to hear nothing when I test drove the i4. Will be ordering the i40 in July
I love it.I want it.
I like the sound.
An ev that actually looks good? I'll take it
Hi Kyle! Thanks for the BMW EV video! How reliable is BMW's lane-centering with adaptive cruise? How does it stack up vs the competition?
I put a deposit down on one an i4 M50 based on this review. Thank you so much for all the work you put into your reviews, even this one that was more impromptu. REALLY hoping you can get an M50 to do some more comprehensive testing on, including the road trip! Curious to see how the route planning works compared to the Tesla... some people have had mixed reviews on it (the BMW system taking them to a slower Level 2 charger when a Level 3 charger is nearby, etc). Thanks again!
I like the new BMW i4 M50. Looks great.
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Was going to order one, but it is the first time I actually walked out of the dealership. It started of great by having to wait 30 minutes even though I had an appointment. When going over the numbers I realised the prices had just gone up 10% compared to a few weeks ago when I enquired. The salesman told me they have to charge more from BMW, but it only applies to the i4. So I had no other choice than to walk away. Guess the 330e and X3 options are also off the table and this will be remembered in the future.
In my country the prices aren't a habit. They have a 330e discounted with a 26% discount and a 7 series with 35% off.
Your major mistake was to walk into a BMW dealership in the first place. That alone gave you away as a naive mark. ;-)
Thank you for the review. Been stuck between this and the regular M440i and you’re making this hard :(
Since you wondered, why it doesn't feel like an ICE car adopted to EV: In one of the early presentations here in Germany, they told us, the 4 series was developed as EV and adopted for ICE afterwards. No idea, if this is true. But reviews keep repeating, it feels like a native EV
The Model 3 Performance jumps out on launch but loses in a quarter mile and in a roll race looses within a half mile because the i4 just keeps going faster. The i4 feeds in the power conservatively and has the legs at higher speeds to out accelerate. 💯
Yep, BMW states it will make peak HP from from 8,000 - 17,000rpm, basically 70mph to beyond its limited top speed, so it has great 60-130mph times.
pretty sure the M3P runs 11.4/.5 in the 1/4 mile and this runs 11.9 in the 1/4 mile
and better reliability i would imagine
When is the full review coming? I'd love to see you guys do an in-depth review as well as the range test of the i4 Drive40 version! I want to buy one next year and I have seen so many reviewers say that the M50 is just not as balanced and most people wouldn't even need the power that it offers esp. that you're losing range the more powerful the EV is.. If you guys can review one, I'd be forever grateful!
Full disclosure, I’m a BMW fanboy, I have my 4th one now but leave it BMW to make an electric car that still looks, feels and performs like a car and doesn’t try to be some futuristic EV compromise.
Nice review. I've never been a BMW fanboy but I really want this car. I seriously rather have this than any other for my daily commute and the price is so much lower than e-tron/taycan/plaid.
And that color holy shit.
After having a couple bmw’s, I can vouch that the acronym for bmw is Bring, More, Wallet.
The unique thing about this vehicle is possibly the rear Externally Excited Synchronous Motor EESM (the only other "volume" vehicle was Renault Zoe 2nd gen) vs. the more ubiquitous Int. permanent magnet motor (mostly Nd-Dy based) or the now less popular or secondary only induction motor.
EESM = Behaves like a PM motor without actual PM at the cost of a small external current excitation to keep the rotor synchronized with the stator's rotational field. Curious to learn about real world range test
Nice CUE testing equipment too :)
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I'm not a big fan of the grill on a small car, but it does look better than a Tesla because it has a grill. I like the i4 more than the model 3 now!
Interesting that there is a transmission tunnel in both rows of this car, despite the power train being packaged between the axles. If they opened that space up, the rear seat would feel more usable, and the front console could have more storage. Great detail for a hands on drive. Keep it up!
BMW are developing ICE and EV on the same platforms. It’s a different economic approach and has certain advantages and disadvantages. On one hand it misses some EV packaging advantage. On the other, it will feel and behave like a BMW and the production cost savings can be reinvested in quality, which is sorely lacking in Teslas.
Great review. ICE automakers are definitely catching up and Teslas are becoming less and less enticing, especially with the perennially delayed FSD.
Have to agree. I love my Tesla, but the fit and finish as well as the stupid yoke are major demerits.
Agree but legacy still needs volume production, dealership model issues, public charging not as good as supercharger, meaningful software updates. Then I'd consider legacy ev
I wouldn’t even say generically that ICE automakers are catching up… its been Porsche and now BMW that really equal or beat Tesla when it comes to similar/better range and arguably much better performance in terms of acceleration and steering/handling saying nothing of build quality either. That’s been the confusing thing for me. Tesla is new to building cars while BMW and Porsche have been making them for 100 plus years. Sure the means of propulsion have changed, but its still a car.
It was between this and the tesla i ordered the tesla in september and still dont have it yet too bad thats the case with all electrics or i would of bought this. Great Review dudes 👍🏼
8:50 Yes classical circles dials would be better💯
Is this the best looking BMW for now?
I wanted to buy it last year - but I did not have the time to wait, so I went somewhere else.
I also drove the Tesla 3 and S - if you like cars...no thank you.
"this is way more impressive than iXpected" ))
Hey BMW! It's electric! Stop with the grill thing!
Back seat does not make it when you adjust the front to drive.
still amazes me that Tesla fanboys think major auto manufacturers arent going to be a significant threat. remember, Tesla has enjoyed a 12+ year head start, and just look at the competition ALREADY! And if you think a relatively poor charging network compared to Tesla is an unfixable scenario, that will change. European sales of Teslas are already down a whopping 49%.
One thing I was curious about, though I may have missed it, what did you think of rear visibility? (The window looks rather small so I was curious)
Crap. Bring back visibility in cars. They need to put down the head restraints as well.
The height reminds me of the f150 lightning which is simultaneously taller AND has less clearance than the gasser.
I might get one
I have a Model 3 and I am test driving the i4 this weekend. Honestly the supercharger network and the tech behind Tesla kept
me loyal but I miss a well put together car and the luxury that came with it.
Red with blue accents... they must have hired my cousin Winny who pimps out all of his cars that way as the interior design group head. ;-)
Man, that is a good looking BMW. I get the impression that it's a more straight up competitor to the Model 3 Performance than BMW lets on. Would love to see them go head to head at the track.
Carwow did a dragrace with it against the model 3 performance.
@@essentials1016 that video is shady. Model 3's do mid 11's not 12's
@@Ds-pw7gdnot at all. BMW just utilizes its power better. And tesla overstated their 0-60 times. No one on the street does 0-60 3.1 in a model 3. It'd always around 3.4 .
@@G82Watts Another butt hurt bmw owner..lol
First video I found the guy consistently runs lower than 3.4. 0-60. What’s bmw going to do when the tesla model 3 highland performance comes out this year and has better performance for half the price of a bmw.
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@@G82Watts Car and Driver got the i4 M50 to 60 in 3.3 seconds as well. The head to heads I've seen show the Tesla quicker off the line, but the BMW passes it at higher speeds.
Tesla is in a ton of trouble with BMW and Mercedes getting into the EV market with some really great stuff. This i4 looks amazing.
Side note. I’m not a fan of the driver window cam angle. Can’t see much and can never see the dash when it’s pointed out (viewing on cell at least). Not totally sure where the cam should be. If doing a drive ripping through the canyons then I would prefer this angle to be on the roof or even the front of the hood looking forward to get that sense of speed. Otherwise love all these videos. Keep it up.
Not as long as the most common conquest trade in for a tesla model 3 is the BMW 3 series. Also tesla will likely exceed BMW and Mercedes total sales volume by the end of this year or mid 2023. As both of their largest and newest plants open. Should be interesting to watch. 🤔
@@4literv6 well these days it's not just Tesla vs BMW and Mercedes. It's Tesla vs Lucid, Rivian, Ford, GM, Hyundai, Volkswagen etc. The volume of vehicles Tesla sells will increase, but the total market share they currently enjoy is going to continue to drop.
@@justin9152 wrong on the market share bit, they increased their total global vehicle market share from .8% in 2020 to 1.4% for 2021.
Without their 2 largest and most modern plants open. What's going to happen when they open here shortly? Hmm I think it will mean that market share will continue to climb again for 2022. 😀
Agree about the competition though, and as a consumer plus ev advocate I'm all for every single new ev otw.
As each one sold takes another ice vehicle off the road. #endoftheiceage can't come soon enough Imo. 😎
@@4literv6 You win. I meant EV market share * Good for them for increasing overall total vehicle market share though
@@justin9152 it's all good, what's really crazy imo is how far&fast ice sales have fallen. If you look from Dec 2016-Dec 2021.
And count the total ev sales, ice only vehicle sales have lost 40-45% market share globally in just 60 month's time. 😎
Looking forward to test driving it here in cold Canada as well hopefully before end of winter so we can test the cold weather range!
Imagine if this had a touring wagon version
Love to see your comparison with a i4 40. Both cars are great, but is the M50 $10K greater??
you pay to play in life, nothing has changed
when do you get this for full review?
"its so quiet, its unbelievable".... really? unbelievable? lol
Kyle can you please review the eDrive40! That is apparently the better driver’s car.
Please do a full review
4:16 what is the name on that lip/part if anyone knows ? I want my M50 with that styling. Just like you say the car look so much more with that part on.
Good ev
Thank you for 4K. Good job!
By the way, I'm waiting for the i4 M50 and this beast should be ready in early spring. :-)
This is million times elegant Vs Tesla!! 🤘👏👍
Where is the charging curve you mentioned was in comments/description?
Picture search for it, e.g. posted in i4talk forum
would you go m440 or m50?
You said there was a link to the charging curve?
Maybe this is a weird answer, but I like the port anywhere that it is best protected from parking lot damage from careless drivers (which would then prevent charging).
Can we talk about how BMW is using brush motors? What's the life expectancy and replacement cost for the brushes?
Nobody here wants to hear the truth or the BS that BMW is doing here.
The sunroof is clearly visible when the camera is pointing rearward.
That rear seat room looks really uncomfortable. The driver’s seat is a good bit forward when you’re sitting there. Once a taller person gets in the driver’s seat the person in the rear will need to sit on the other side or sideways. The bottom of the driver’s seat is almost grinding the bottom of your shin. The back seat rest is nearly if not 90 degrees. It looks as if you’re at a parent teacher night sitting in your child’s desk. Now that I’ve seen you adjust the chair to your seating position the only one sitting behind you are groceries and office folders. Climate controls ate something that need to be easily accessible so physical controls would really help reduce driver distraction. It looks like the torque is really strong but it also looks hella bouncy. I’d like to see some of these four door coupes give some of that trunk room back to rear seat occupants. There’s no need to have luggage room for five if the vehicle only seats three people.
Still has the drive shaft hump too
@@Ds-pw7gd Right. Functionally it’s basically a two seater, unless the front seat passengers are ten year olds.
Bmw will find a way for this car to be unreliable .. but damn it looks good. But I worry about a check battery light
They don’t have subwoofer they have amplifier😊👍👍👍
what about charging stations? where can you recharge?
you tested the rear leg seat room prior to adjusting the front seat to your driving position
My 15 your old compact has tons of rear legroom when the driver is willing to have his knees in his face. ;-)
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Buttons and knobs are where they are supposed to be but I hate the buttons around the center console wheel. They feel cheap and have terrible tactile feedback.
Is it jet black or black sapphire mettalic?
Hurray!!! Physical buttons on the steering wheel.
It's just been a quick drive, but please leave recuperation in adaptive mode and do not set it to high. Find out all about it and thank me during the road trip.
Debating between the i4 M50 or the Polestar 2 Performance pack in a year or two.
Even though I like Polestar, the BMW is probably the better dynamic car and better riding one.
bmw hands down
Polestar is cheaper. I purchased the similar Volvo XC40 EV since I didn’t wanted to wait a year for my preordered i40 M50 to arrive.
Looks like a great car to drive.
Very concerned about the amount of non-standard options:
Heated front seats $550
Ventilated another 350
Ambient lighting 250
Wireless device charging 200
Heads up displays 1000
Drive recorder 100
So many of those options are standard these days on other vehicles. It’s nice that you can a la carte many of them while also included in a package but this is option gouging at its finest.
Tesla also gets 20" wheels. That will cost you another 3k and lower your miles to 225 for the bmw
would love to take the i4 eDrive40 on a cannonball run...
Fun fact you can fully disable TC and SC in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 allowing fro donuts and drifting in snow/rain.