Steering/Death Wobble and Rancho shocks on a Ford Super Duty
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Installing a Rancho steering stabilizer and upgrading to Rancho RS9000XL shocks. Cured my steering wheel wobble. The BEFORE and AFTER comparison is at 6:10.
Dual Stabilizer Kit: amzn.to/2xLP2UE
Single Steering Damper - amzn.to/2rHL4ws
RS9000XL Shocks - amzn.to/2rZ0HNd
Replacement for OEM stabilizer: amzn.to/2rtN73G
Part numbers are:
Stabilizers are part number RS98510 (upgraded monotubes are RS7405). You must have a leveling or lift kit. This does not work on non-lifted front ends. Shocks are Front: RS999043, Rear: RS999047.
I greatly appreciate when someone edits their "how to" videos to take out the in-between time so the viewer can watch a shorter video. Great video!
I like it when a consumer can repair an engineering flaw. Very awesome to see a truck owner work on their own truck, when the work is done you know it was installed right, I know there are limits to the work most can do understandably. If you can't replace shocks, brakes, belts, oil, gear or trans fluids you're really not a owner, you're just borrowing it.
Epic, I highly recommend you purchase and install the ProComp 599 Caster adjustment cams. They are drop in and do not require a alignment when finished. I have a 2011 f250 with a 2.5" level on the front and 35" tires like yours. I experienced the exact same wobble as you and like you I installed a dual steering stabilizer which did help. I still kind of had that feeling of "driving over the wheels" instead of behind them. Ford recommends the factory caster be between +1 to +3.8. When you install the level it decreases your caster to around +1 which is why you have a loose feel. I had the ProComp 599 cams installed this last weekend and it really really made a big difference. They took about 30 minutes to remove the factory cams and drop in the new ones. Since they do not impact camber at all, you do not need any alignment. Once done, the steering felt much much tighter and more responsive. Highly recommend removing and replacing yours. I went with the ProComp because they are built as 1 piece units, like the OEM ones. They add about +2.8 caster, which is much closer to spec. Easy dyi install and you could easily make a video of it. Huge improvement for only about $100
I am going to try your suggestion. My 2000 Excursion wanders all over the place and I have a hard time keeping it between the lines.
How much is this set up
I'm still here and still loving the truck. The whole HPFP thing kind of wore me out on FTE. I still have zero problems to report and lots of great times. I do miss the guys over there. Need to come back and see what's going on in the FTE world.
Thanks for the advice. I had my entire front end checked by a Jeep Dealership and explained my Death Wobble problem to them. After they checked the entire front end I was told my track bar was designed incorrectly. huh, imagine that!!!
Thanks for your concern about everyones safety, but I'm not risking anyones life, but I am slowly replacing parts with over 100,000 miles on them and making my Jeep better than what came out of the factory. Let the good times roll.
Excellent made video on the installation process. I know when I installed my single steering dampener on my 2001 F350 it made a world of difference driving over potholes, railroad crossings, and especially with hitting little divots/bumps in the road at highway speed. It took a lot of the wobble out of the steering wheel which takes a lot of wariness out of me the driver and makes the ride that much more enjoyable. I have the SkyJacker Hydro 7000 damper and all my shocks are also of the same brand.
Holly Smokes, I was just talking to a buddy about my truck bouncing down the road on our bumpy country roads. I was just going to do this exact same upgrade but was uneasy about convincing the wife I need new shocks and a dual steering stabilizer on a brand new truck. Thanks again for a great video!
Beautiful job it’s worth every second super fun to watch, thanks for sharing and for showing us that we need to improve ourselves we need to stop the unnecessary spending and improve our retirement abilities, you just saved what thousands! in labor, amazing
It's really something watching a guy who can afford this truck actually working on it himself.
@rtepic New shocks are a pretty cheap upgrade. I took video of the back end bouncing around also but decided the video was already long enough and didn't include it. It fixed that bounce also.
Although awhile ago, nice job and motivated to do the same. And I am by no means a mechanical guy but see the benefits and for the camping activity, we will be doing. Thanks!
Right on
I had a full size Bronco back in the days that had a wobble that would cause so much anxiety on the highway and don't let a large truck or trailer go by. I put the Rancho steering stabilizer on and sloved the problem.
I finally found the time to pull the trigger on this. I installed the T6 Billet leveling kit from Read-Lift first and then did the same shocks and steering stabilizer that you did. Very good combination and definitely improved the wobble and bounce. Thanks again for taking the time to dot his video.
Yeah, sorry to hear of your experience but you are not alone. The nature of this type of coil over axle suspension requires major overbuilding to completely eliminate the wobble. That's where the better shocks and dampers come in. The ironic thing is, the front end is built very well and tows/hauls like no other. When you have a heavy load, you'll be singing the praises of the engineers. Call if love/hate! With these easy changes, I love my truck even more and I use it fully.
I love that you had to read instructions for the stabilizer shocks but nothing else...haha. My buddy had the same reaction I just did to you when I was unsure how to replace the belt tensioner on his Cavalier, but the weekend before I was replacing both front axles and all 4 struts around my car....
I completely agree with. I wish Ford would have spent the additional $1000 to over build it. The equivalent Chevy is a little more expensive than the Ford and the Chevy is definitely over built in the suspension arena. Thanks for posting these videos. I am definitely going to order the Rancho steering stabilizer and shocks. It is great to see productive and friendly dialogue on UA-cam comments for a change.
Well done man, wish there were more videos like this comparing the 2 extremes of auto repairs.
This is called bump steer death wobble is a little different but either way loved the video glad to see stabilizer shocks are worth the money
I have an 04 Dodge Ram 2500. The death wobble is scary as all hell. I was hauling a load towards Colorado one night and all of a sudden the whole truck took on a 1 per 1 rev vibration like I had never felt before. It knocked paperwork out of my door storage. I would bleed off speed and it would go away. Go back over 60 and hit a bump and it would get violent again.
No lift stock tires. Dodge replaced the stabilizer and its gone now.
I might go after marked and upgrade to this.
Great video.
I did the same thing as you did. All Rancho RS9000 shocks with the duel steering stabilizers on my 2000 Ford super duty crew cab. I also run the duel front shock kit and have the shocks turned to 3. Love the ride! Great video and thanks for sharing!
@strumem90 Exactly. I just got back from a trip pulling a very heavy trailer (16k lbs) around at 10,000 foot elevation and never once wanted for more power or control. This is what this truck was designed to do. If it only takes me little tweaks here and there to make it the way I like it, so be it. I'm very happy with this amazing truck.
A lot of people do not appreciate how important shocks, struts are to more than just ride quality.
I put the same RS9000XLs on my 07 2500HD. Absolutely love the ride now. I had thought about the steering stabilization option for my truck, but decided against it at the time. As I have a very similar issue with the tire wobble, I think your vid just convinced me to go ahead and do it. Thanks for such a clear video!
I added the part numbers to the video description. Just press the "Show more" box and they are there. Should have done that a long time ago. Thanks!
Hey Epic, long time no chat. I'm running Skyjacker M95s on my 2011 f250 fx4 and they were a huge improvement over the junk Rancho wannabes that that came off. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Skyjackers, I just feel like I could possibly improve my ride by going with either the Rancho 9000s or even the Fox 2.0 performance. What do you think? I know you have had these Ranchos for a few years. How are they now? Do the various settings really show a difference in ride quality? Should I just stick with my skyjackers? For comparison purposes, my Skyjacker improved the ride of my truck by about 30-40%. I'm wondering off the 9000s will exceed that expectation. Thanks bud.
CorpusChristiGuy It's hard to compare as I've had no experience with the Skyjackers. Bottom line is that shocks, especially on our heavy trucks have a limited life expectancy. The OEM Ranchos were way under engineered to begin with and the 9000s were a huge improvement. But even they will need to be changed. I have 60K miles and am thinking it's time. 9000s and Bilsteins are the most popular with some going for the spendy Fox shocks. I'm sure they're great also. When you put new shocks in place of worn out ones, I'm sure you will get that 50% improvement. It's pretty subjective though.
I stayed with the factory trac bar because I didn't mind the 1/2 inch shift to the driver's side. It's barely noticeable and doesn't affect driving. Some guys replace the track bar which is fine too. My lift was accomplished with 2 inch spacers on the front only, not new springs. The F350 already has the 4 inch blocks in the rear.
I've never been more excited about hitting a pot hole for the 2nd time as I was watching this vid. Good work thanks for the video.
Lol. No prob.
If the death wobble wont kill you the doughnut will.
Always have to live on the edge.
Ha!
You drive the same as I do. Same trailer weight also. The new shocks are absolutely not harsh. On the contrary, the smooth out the ride by removing the eratic rebound of the OEM FX4 shocks. The adjusters do make a difference also. I set the rears at 4 in the rear when unloaded and all the way to 9 when towing. The fronts stay at 6 all the time.
I hear you but I did run over the hole several times trying to get it to wobble and couldn't. Before the stabilizers it took very little to set off the wobble. With them, the truck is much more stable. The difference on the open road is undeniable.
The steering is still firm a year later. I do think I feel a little wobble creeping back in but that may be just me being more sensitive to it. If it ever gets to a point that I want to replace the stabilizers, it will be a 10 minute job.
Thanks. The video shows the problem clearly. Makes it a lot easier to understand what is going on and apply a solution.
If you haven't done it already, add a sway bar to the rear. Next to shocks it's the biggest change in handling I've seen! Got the hellwig one. 13 f250 with 35's.
Good luck with it. It worked for me. The stabilizers have a lifetime warranty and you'll probably need it. They will need replacement in a couple of years.
Hey, I came by to say thanks! My Grand Cherokee would get a death wobble when hitting a pothole. After watching your video, I replaced my steering stabilizer. Now, the death wobble is gone.
@oregonbigpower Thanks, they're fun to do. I left the stock stabiler in place and meant this only as a supplement. Works great. Careful houg, some have had problems with the axle bracked getting pushed into the tie rod adjusting sleeve if the truck is not leveled or lifted. A call to Rancho can verify. Planning to replace the OEM stabilizer with a Bilstein upgrade when it wears out.
This is awesome he showed a video that is basically step by step on the install. I have the same truck and don't have any issues. I love it. Great video.
That's pretty hard for me to guarantee from where I sit as I don't know all the specifics of your truck. It fixed my minor wobble nicely. It's helped a lot of other folks as well. It's a cheap and easy try at least.
The adjust-ability is nice as you can really change the shock behavior. Too hard or too soft and you can change it. The dual stabilizers make all the difference on the steering wobble. Video doesn't lie!
Yea Ranchos are very good also.. Specially the new RS9000XL they came out with, my steering stabilizer are Ranchos, made a great difference in my steering
Great video! Celebrating with a doughnut! My kind of celebration!
TALLENOWEN Yes that stabilizer will work on any size lift, it has nothing to do with the lift, also very nice video, you did a great job editing to make it short and sweet!
I have a 2012 F250 crew cab with Ranch Hand front bumper and an ARA topper and a Ranch Hand rear bumper. So, lots of additional weight on both the front and rear suspension. I see a lot of people in groups saying that the stabilizers only 'mask' the problem and do not solve the root cause. Well, I had a dealer (under warranty) replace: Both tie rod ends, drag link, track bar, shocks, balance, rotate and align and I STILL had the death wobble. Not much else left when it comes to the front suspension. Installing these Rancho dual stabilizers solved the problem. Thanks goodness I didn't have to pay for all of that dealer work or it would have cost quite a bit.
Update: 1 Month later. While the death wobble seems to be gone, I found that if I hit a speedbump or dip in the road doing anything over 15 MPH, the bracket holding the 2 stabilizers shifts and sits on the tie rod sleeve making steering very difficult. Its not just stiff, it actually sticks from the pressure of the bracket on the tie rod sleeve. Not good when this happens about once a week and I have to get under the truck, loosen the bolts, push it up and re-tighten them. Unlike the truck in the video, my truck is not lifted nor does it have a levelling kit. Have any of you experienced this?
S.K. Shapiro , many of the dual stabilizers I have seen for f250/350s specifically say not for stock height trucks (no lift). I am not sure why that is, but it's possible that there is a interference issue or a geometry issue with no lift. Definitely something to verify.
That is going to happen if you don't have a 2 inch level on the front. I'm pretty sure the kit says that is required.
Nowhere in the user instructions or in the advertisements does it say anything about stock, lifted or leveled. eMail and phone calls to Rancho tech support have not been returned. The company that installed them could find nothing in their information either. I did happen to see a note about 'not for stock' in the ads for another brand which got me to think about this. Bottom line is that I had the company that installed them uninstall them and replace with stock. The new stock single shock seems to be doing the job OK, but I do feel a lot more vibration on bumpy surfaces. When this wears out (first death wobble) I am thinking of replacing it with a Bilstein since it seems to get such good reviews.
Also, do you think a 1.5 inch leveling kit would be ok with the Rancho dual stabilizer?
It's a sad situation when you pay over 50K for a truck and need to address a "Death Wobble" at 57K miles. Ford Motor Company should be ashamed of themselves. I have a 2014 F350 that would scare you to death to drive. This video was extremely well done and very helpful.
Hang in there. The stabilizers will control the wobble but eventually you'll figure out the part that is worn. It's usually trac bar ends. Just the tiniest amount of play will create the wobble.
Dan Marrazzo, it's definitely not just Ford's. Any truck with a solid axle and especially dodges and jeeps.
this is why i hate fords
Thanks for posting this. I have installed a set on my 2010 F250 and, while I have not driven it that much - so far so good!
I'm still happy with mine also. I do think they will need replacing every 3 or 4 years though. My bigger tires just require more control than the OEM solution provides. No biggie though, I'm just glad to have a solution.
I can't say I really had a lot of play in the wheel. The stabilizers definitely firm up the steering wheel and add some resistance that you can feel. It takes away some of the wandering feeling you get on the freeway. There are a lot of things that can contribute to that like not having enough caster angle on the steering knuckles. A good alignment shop should be able to confirm that. Just make sure they don't set to factory specs. It has to be extra angle to compensate for suspension changes.
Wow, what a difference!
I put a 2" OME lift on my Wrangler with some RS9000 shocks and love the ride.
I used to spend a lot of time over at FTE. Posted under EpicCowlick. Got tired of hearing all the HPFP fear mongering. As far as the shocks, they are still great but I have doubts about the stabilizers. I need to pull them off and see if they've lost pressure. Fortunately it's extremely easy and they have a lifetime warranty. No problems with other components and it still drives like new.
I couldn't agree more. I would install the supplemental after market ones in a heart beat if I didn't have stock tires and no lift which as you pointed out are needed to provide room for the rancho stabilizers. For me I'll keep my fingers crossed the oem hold up for me.
Had the death wobble, like 5 to 10 times a day on the road, would not go away till the truck was almost halted, stock 06 f250 super duty crew cab, 4x4, about 102,000 miles, replaced the track bar bushing, tie rod ball joints, and steering stabilizer, problem solved. About $160.00 in parts.
That will do it. The stabilizers only serve to dampen wobble. Eventually the bad part will present itself. If you can remove the root cause, that's the best option.
The place you're going to notice the wobble the most is turning slightly left when going over a large freeway expansion joint. The stabilizers may have solved the problem for now. The next thing to go after is ball joints and trac bar. It's a shame this awesome truck has this issue in some of the units.
The video shows how the wobble is stopped by the stabilizers and shocks. The reason it happens in the first place however is either ball joints, track bar, or something else. Bottom line, whatever makes it go away is good. After about 25K miles, the wobble is starting to return. Rancho lifetime warrants the stabilizers and they are easy to replace. I'm doing it again in a couple of weeks. If it ever gets to the point where the stabilizers don't work, I'll have to replace other parts then.
great job I did the same thing to my 06 f350 dually the only difference is I have a 4.5 left with 35/12.50/17s
Nice . That’s what I’m going thru right now with my 2017 F250, thank you for all your info
Glad to help
Great video... Very informative and I'm glad you got that wobble fixed because it was bad. I'm going to replace the damper on my truck and grab a doughnut also..
Just as well check all the ball joints for play while you're under there. The damper will work to correct wobble but will wear out quickly if the joints are bad.
@@EpicCowlick How would I know if my ball joints are bad..??
@@kc8998 Any motion in the joint indicates a failing part. The typical diagnostic method is to have someone under the front of the truck while another person turns the steering wheel back and forth. The person can use their hand on the joint to feel differences in motion between connected parts or can actually see really bad joints moving. We're talking about drag link joints and steering bar joints there. Steering knuckle ball joints are tested with the tire off the ground and a person pulling back and forth on the tire horizontally or vertically. Pretty easy. Replacing joints is just a matter of using the proper ball joint removal/replace tools. Easy if you have the right tool and a little experience.
@rap2454 I've used Rancho products on many vehicles and with the exception of the Rancho FX4 shocks, I've never been disappointed. I'm perfectly happy with them. The lifetime warranty is nice also.
Just FYI - the Rancho dual stablizer will only work on a lifted or leveled truck. Standard height trucks can impact the damper bracket and push it into the adjusting sleeve and make it difficult to steer. Not a good thing. I think Bilstein makes an OEM replacement but I can't vouch for its effectiveness.
The stabilizer does need a lift or it can be damaged by normal suspension travel. This is the first I've heard of 4 inches though. Mine is a 2 inch front end level and it's fine. And yes, the 9000s made a huge difference. The OEM shocks are very poor.
Love the truck and your videos.. All clear and fun to watch. My wife wanted me to trade in my 03 F350 for the new 2011.. Told her "HECK NO" you crazy woman, but I would love to get "another" truck ;-) Also those rancho shocks look and work great, I have Bilsteins on mine, love them!!
The answer to that is, sort of. There is a reason the front end wobbles in the first place and the difficulty is finding what is failing. In my case, I think it's a ball joint on the driver's side but I won't know until it presents itself better. These certainly mask the problem to the driver until the bad part finally shows itself and requires replacement. If you're planning to do this, go with the brand new RS7405 monotube design. Better than the RS5405 twin tubes by far.
The coil suspension is more prone to the dreaded wobble. And yes, the stabilizers are not shock absorbers. The resist motion in either direction and do require the steering pump to work harder. The question is how much harder? Tough to tell. Guys who have used these universally say they have not had pumps fail. That was important to me before I decided to install them.
If you lift a truck and run larger tires you have to run the right air pressure along with the re adjustment to the toe in toe out adjustment,your front tires should actually be closer in front than back side of front tires.if your wheels are measured perfectly straight and high air pressure then you're ready to churn butter
@DPEDEN3 The stabilizers control the wobble but I thought the Chev design is an independent A-arm which would not be prone to wobbling. If your steering wheel is wobbling, and you have an independent front (A-arms), and your wheels are balanced, I would say to check your ball joints and see if they need attention.
No doubt about that. I think a similar setup like yours is on the horizon.
The stabilizers are still doing their job. My issue was likely exacerbated by the larger tires but I wasn't major to begin with. Just a bit of steering wheel wobble in certain situations.
Usually it's track bar bushings. So you might want to try that before spending big bucks.
I have the 2011 Ford F250 Lariat Crew Cab FX4 with the 20" wheels and have had it to the dealer twice for a severe death wobble. The dealer replaced the steering stabilizer the first time and the second time said the issue was the tires. I have the stock Michelin with only 29,000 miles of wear. The dealer is trying to see if they can replace the tires under warranty but I find it hard to believe the tires are the only issue. Your video confirms... under built Ford suspension. Ford denies it.
I don't understand stabilizer haters and why they dismiss the stabilizers as a useful part of the front end system. My experience is an annoying wobble on a brand new truck. The dealer and a front end shop confirmed all components were fine. With my larger tires, the extra stabilizers were a necessary upgrade and they continue to assist today. Dismissing them as "masking" the problem only is a dis-service. They supplement the weak OEM component which was not designed for over-sized tires.
After rotate balance and alignment my problem still existed. Dealer found (only after taking the stock steering stabilizer off and apart) that the steering stabilizer was shot. According to them these parts go bad sporadically. Problem is solved after test drive over a bump.
@2patflynn I used part number 98510. You need to have a leveling kit or some type of lift for the Rancho stabilizers to work otherwise they will interfere with steering. Best to call Rancho directly and get the word straight from them.
Well that's good to hear. I know my Jeep's death wobble problem stems from play in components and is made worse by the caster and toe created by lifting it. All a steering damper will do for me is hide the problem. That said, not all suspensions are made equally and I don't doubt your problems went away with the use of those dampers.
Happy wheeling.
Doesn't Have The Wobble Sounds Fixed Did I Miss Something
So, I've been seeing a few FTE members complain about the Rancho kit leaking as well as, along with the leveling kit, being the cause of major wear and tear over a period of 8-10 months. You've probably read the same posts. How is your kit holding up? Has it caused any damage to OEM components and how many miles have you had the kit on your truck? I know, lots of questions. Reason being, I just ordered the same kit.
How much did this set up cost u ? If you don’t mind me asking
I have not seen the difference and the instructions don't say anything about it. I'm sure it does not matter which side is against the washer. It's probably a factory assembly thing where the bushing is installed in one direction more easily.
@reelwork1 Thanks, I appreciate that. I've heard nothing but good about the Bilsteins. I'll have to look into them when these wear out. Good to have an option.
@mevanz I had these on a Chevrolet Blazer S10 way back in the day. I had them set at 3-4 and really liked them. Much firmer, planted ride. The 9000's might be overkill for your Sierra but you can use them at lower settings and they would work well.
You'll definitely want to align the truck after the lift paying particular attention to compensating caster. By lifting, the caster is effectively zero'd out and needs to be returned beyond factory specs. Without it, you'll feel like the truck is "loosey-goosey" and wanders on the freeway. I also had trouble with the steering wheel not returning to center after a turn. Restoring caster fixed it but be sure you find a shop that understands this. Most will try to restore to factory specs.
@weisle67 Thanks for the tip. My problem was with the OEM version of the Ranchos which are just under-engineered in my opinion. They just felt small and inadequate. So far so good with these new Ranchos. It really does ride much nicer than it ever has. I'm looking forward to playing with the adjustable feature and see how it changes the ride.
I did have the FX4 package with the OEM Rancho "branded" shocks. They are terrible and completely useless for the task of managing shock and rebound on these big trucks. The "true" Rancho 9000's work like I expected which is great. Rancho did themselves a disservice in putting their name on those terrible OEM FX4 shocks.
just one thing, adding a stabilizer to 'cure' the death wobble doesnt actually cure it, but mask it. when was the last time you checked your bushings and rod ends?
Dude starts out in business clothes and then puts Parts on this truck America
May give this a try due to my 2018 f250 cupping front tire!! Not sure but heard it’s a Ford thing but I do have beefier tires on it now but still have factory suspension
The front suspension is an engineer's thing of beauty (or nightmare). As soon as you change one element, it affects others. One thing I've learned is to make sure to add back caster angle during the alignment. Any amount of lift or level contributes to that particular problem.
I am using them all the way around. I chose not to use the MyRide system as I already have two air compressors under the truck already (airbags and on-board air). I do change the rear shocks between 3 and 9 depending on unloaded/loaded but the fronts stay at 6.
add a bd diesel caster kit to get 3 degrees of caster it fixes the wobble
Derrick Moyer exactly
Except they dont work on 2011 and up. :( I know, I just looked at it last night.
As per the Rancho instructions shouldn't the upper single stabilizer arm be removed?
Two trips to dealer before the truck came out of warranty they said everything was normal. I tire of that runaround quickly and just took care it myself. Some Fords seem to be prone o this hen others have no issues. One day I‘ll fix it properly.
Thanks but no biggie. I think his name and icon pretty much tell the story. I've already explained below that the dealer has looked but not been able to pin-point the issue. The stabilizers fix it so it's good enough for me. Maybe one day a bad ball joint or some suspension part will show up bad but I'll just wait for that day.
@honuboi79 They are working great and they aren't stiff. You can afjust them in a wide range for different driving conditions. I only have a 2 inch level on the front end.h
Can't remember exactly, but you can find the shocks online for about $100 each and the stabilizer for about $140.
Death wobble gone with track bar bushing replacement
som1335 exactly! My tire shop guy has a f250, I have a f350, TRACK BAR, TRACK BAR, TRACK BAR...I GOT 151,000 MILES AND STILL NO DEATH WOBBLE. I also heard putting giant tires and rims can cause the wobble with bad track bar.
Look how rusty that track bar is compared to everything else.
@@ericriley3147 .... I had death wobble today in my 2017 F250 , it has never been in the winter or rain with 10,000 miles on it .
Is it still a rusty track bar ? My truck looks like new under it .
@@goodboyringo9716 Its a known problem with the 2017. Friend of mine's uncle has one and it just happened to him. Took it to dealer and they "fixed it" as they aren't prepared to call it a "factory recall issue", but Ford knows about it.
It's interesting how all the Jeep guys say that Super Duty owners (or anyone) do not need steering stabilizers. Perhaps Jeeps may not need then as they weight about as much as the engine in our 2011+ super dutys (slightly exaggerating). Perhaps part of our wobble issue is due to the increased weight coupled with the spring/shock and balance of the truck.
Jeeps do need them when they put oversize tires on just like the ones on this truck. And my jeep weights 4500 lbs dry factory curb weight. They are much heavier than they look.
It's hit and miss with the Super Dutys. Some have more trouble than others. Must be some variable in the front end that causes some to have issues and others not. Regardless, the coil spring suspension is awesome for comfort sake but prone to wobbles in certain situations. No matter where the issue is, there is an easy fix. In my case, I leveled the front end two inches and installed much larger tires. I also need to add more caster to the alignment. The stabilizers hide all of those problems.
Sounds like you had a pretty severe case of the wobbles. It all boils down to having all the front end components in nearly perfect order. As you know, something as simple as stabilizer joints that are slightly worn can cause it. I'd add additional dampeners to fortify the front end. You don't want the wobble coming back because it can wear out other components very quickly and you'll be back searching for a solution again. Do everything you can to avoid the wobble in the first place.
great video love the happy ending with a big gulp and a donut lol
@goshenx132 Shocks and stabilizer was $430 in total.
I may be doing this on my 2016 f350, It has a very rough ride. How hard was is to compress the shocks on installation? Thank you so so much.
I trick I've learned since then is to use a floor jack and socket to push the shock up into position. Look for the video where I test Fox shocks. I do it in that one.
Pretty cool video. I may have to do this on mine someday as well. I have a wandering steering issue but I think I've got that nailed down too. Thanks for your time.
Sorry you're dealing with that. I'm sure you know there are many components that can contribute to the wobble. Tie rod ends, drag link, and parts I can't remember the names of. There should be ZERO play in all of them and some guys have found defective or loose parts on brand new trucks. That's your first concern is to have a qualified person look things over closely and make any repairs necessary. Even then though I still think the front end can be tightened up with a stabilizer. Thats my take.