Tempting 😈 imo they should have an option for welded freewheel on this kit. Tried the welded freewheel on my 76v ec4p & noisy cricket setup & man what a game changer, smoothness feels like a surron & i gotta remind myself not to beat on the throttle too much lol
It’s called whisky throttle haha I didn’t know that ya I done that before just kept trying to grab that throttle side to get ahold of the bike it’s pretty funny
Can you do a build with razor pro and the sotion fw01swing arm kit upgraded controller and 96 volt battery see if you can pull 80s 90s that would be cool to see !
For ~850, this kit is a steal. A custom swingarm would already be 450+. 12" wheel kit is ~100. The only problem is the size of my balls. Theyre not big enough to keep the front end down when pushed to the limits
@@VoltronWatts Awesome ,Thanks man!! I'm gonna have to look into the fw11 for my 48v mototec. waiting on my 72v to come in and gonna push the stock motor for a little while. Love watching your videos and learning these bikes with you in these e-bike groups. keep em comin!!
Just ordered on a few days ago after watching this! Do you know the length of the phase extensions? Was thinking about picking about one of the surron phase extensions, but I'm not sure if they would be long enough.
Also are you using the 96680 just cause you plan on going with a 96v battery? The 72680 and 96680 are the same price so would it just be better to grab the bigger controller?
@@VoltronWatts how's the voltage sag on the 2170la lishen? I'm debating those or samsung 50g cell... from amorge for my ebox 2.0 how much range do you get out of the amorge battery
Sure will. TruMoto is a VESC controller so, the TruMoto app might not be the move but there are VESC apps that will allow you to use the controller with different motors. However, I think if you tune outside the TruMoto app and use a 3rd party tuning solution you may void your E&C warranty
Can we get away from the super minibikes, aka razor, and go with a kx65, rm65, ktm65, pick your favorite flavor. You're a big MAN step up to a kx85 or similar. let's put the toys back on the shelf and get something considered a dirt bike. This is supposed to be for fun riding with your knees spread like... well you can finish that joke is not comfortable. Take that same setup and drop it in an old kx85 frame now you're having fun and there is room for improvement. Taking a razor and replacing everything on it and putting razor stickers on it don't make it a razor. I get it! but let's up the game for us adults. I heard you say once these are not for kids, so let's stop trying to be 80 lbs. children and step up the Challege just one maybe two notches, is it really that much to ask your talking about doing 75 to 90 mph. The cheapest 65 will always beat a razor the cheapest 85 will always beat a 65 a 125 will aways beat an 85 its the hierarchy of life. instead of creating a new platform (redesign a razor) let use what's already been on the market for 25+ years. I am not saying go buy a Stark Varg here, but maybe that would be money better spent for some of ya. If ya want a dirt bike with 80hp well stop playing around, it's called a Stark Varg and it the sexiest bike ever.
Certain high speeds on that little bike can kill you and you need to realize that small bike is not made to go 90 mph. Things can happen and failures can happen to the bike.
Wanna build an electric mini bike of your own, head over to Voltronwatts.com 🚀
Keep these videos rolling!!! Me and kids can’t get enough of them
I appreciate you and your families support Mark! 👊
So darn cool, I love this Sotion series
Sotion has been releasing some bangers for sure!
Tempting 😈 imo they should have an option for welded freewheel on this kit. Tried the welded freewheel on my 76v ec4p & noisy cricket setup & man what a game changer, smoothness feels like a surron & i gotta remind myself not to beat on the throttle too much lol
I think the torque on this motor would destroy a freewheel.
@@VoltronWatts big facts! 🤙🏽
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I'd recommend some kind of steering damper for future top speed runs just to be safe. You got balls of steel going almost 80 on a razor.. lol
Hahah! Steering dampener is in the works 💪
Great informative content sir! Glad to see you all geared up brother!
Thanks Andrew! Need to find a gear sponsor for the channel to get a set of leathers!💪
THIS HAS ME TOOO EXCITED TO SEE THE 96V SETUP!!!!! Great video
Hell yea brother! Thanks for watching!🍻
Dude your killing me these razor mods are breaking me lol fantastic video by the way sorry you jacked up your ride.
Live and learn. Came out with minimal damage and got back on the horse! Thank you for watching! 🤜🤛
It’s called whisky throttle haha I didn’t know that ya I done that before just kept trying to grab that throttle side to get ahold of the bike it’s pretty funny
lol! I had control for a second and if you hear the video you hear it rev up again and that’s where it sent itself into the ditch 🚀
Can you do a build with razor pro and the sotion fw01swing arm kit upgraded controller and 96 volt battery see if you can pull 80s 90s that would be cool to see !
That’s a huge request! 😂
Yea mon sending it careful out there brother
Hell yes boss!
For ~850, this kit is a steal. A custom swingarm would already be 450+. 12" wheel kit is ~100. The only problem is the size of my balls. Theyre not big enough to keep the front end down when pushed to the limits
Haha! Just because you have the power doesn’t mean you gotta use it all. It’s a great value
Update: It comes with a 428 chain now...
Thank you for the update! 👊
I need this in my life!! i wish they would make a upgraded motor for the fist gen mototec. thanks for the review
I think there are some great motors for the bike. I think Sotion makes an FW11 version that will fit your bike. 🍻
@@VoltronWatts Awesome ,Thanks man!! I'm gonna have to look into the fw11 for my 48v mototec. waiting on my 72v to come in and gonna push the stock motor for a little while. Love watching your videos and learning these bikes with you in these e-bike groups. keep em comin!!
100% will! Keep building man 💪
Lightning rod's big block XL motor fits with a little modification. It's rated at 13kw.
@DescartesRenegade I’ve never tried out a LR motor. Would like to tho.
i fucking love “grey” area toys. gotta get myself one of these. dont think ill ever go that fast but i love having the choice lol
Hell yea brother! Never heard the term “grey area toys” but I love it 💜
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Just got mine hooked up with the eforce jetpack controller thing is a beast .
I’ve been wanting to get my hands on one of those controllers!
It’s so small
Still like it?
yea the fardrivers are sometimes to big with all the new 6g battery wires hard to tuck those away @@VoltronWatts
@Watts_garage agreed
Just ordered on a few days ago after watching this! Do you know the length of the phase extensions? Was thinking about picking about one of the surron phase extensions, but I'm not sure if they would be long enough.
Hey man, thanks for watching! I don’t know the exact length. I’ve made my own phase extensions in the past and cut them the exact length 👌
New to this and I want to build one but I can’t decide on which setup. Sotion & Fardriver or EC4P & Noisy Cricket. Which would you recommend?
You can’t go wrong with either man 👌
looks like my next purchase
You’re not ready 😂 full send!!🚀
Also are you using the 96680 just cause you plan on going with a 96v battery? The 72680 and 96680 are the same price so would it just be better to grab the bigger controller?
I got the 96v controller because I planned to run a 96v battery at some point. And I did get a 96v battery and I got a 961800HR controller instead 😂
@@VoltronWatts makes sense, I really wanna do a 96v setup but not sure yet lol
So what would you have to modify to get the fw01 kit on razor pro?
The swing arm
You the champ !!!!💪🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hahaha! Thanks boss 👊
Looks like the shock mount revision will hit the spring on that strut
No telling till it’s actually done. They may have even changed the design after I was provided the revised picture.
How did the 72v 40ah fit in the bike? I called Amorge and they said the dimension is 6”x9”x10”. Seems too big
It fits 🤷🤣
I will say tho, mine does not have the metal case around it. Adding the metal case does add some dimension
I want to do this... 😮❤❤
No reason not to!🚀
@@VoltronWatts - The cost is one thing holding me back.... The Mrs thinking I'm going to die riding something like this is another. 😅
😂
What controller and motor will you do for a 48v budget set up?
Go FASTER for CHEAP! 48 Volt Budget Build! Beginners Guide To Building A Modified Razor MX650, SX500
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This build is a little insane..
Hahaha! I agree. That’s why I love it 😂 thanks for watching Pat 🤜🤛
Is it longer than, how much longer is that swing arm vs stock?
Prolly 5” I’d guess
@@VoltronWatts nice! Thanks, VDub! Seems like I’m leaning towards that setup and ready to get it moving. 🤤
Does this motor get hot pretty quickly or nah
Nope
Kraaazy 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great set up!
What if u die who will make mx pro video
Hahaha! Great point! No clue 😂
What cells are in that amorge battery? What bms did you go with ?
2170 lishen and ANT BMS
@@VoltronWatts how's the voltage sag on the 2170la lishen? I'm debating those or samsung 50g cell... from amorge for my ebox 2.0 how much range do you get out of the amorge battery
What jacket is that? ❤
Triumph branded jacket 🤙
Will the fw01 kit fit on razor pro??
No. Not without modification. The FW11 will tho 🫡
Can you make a video on how you put the controller and motor connection on?
How to extend the phase wires?
Bro looks like Shawn from Life After Lockup
Bro, no!
great video bro!! thanks for the awesome content!
My please boss! Thanks for watching and commenting 🤜🤛
looks sweet
Thanks Luther! 🤙
Can you suggest a source for the phase wire extensions?
I made my own with 4g copper phase wire extensions.
So 4awg stranded copper wire and 4awg lugs?
Have you come up with a kickstand solution for this yet?
Nope. Havnt really looked into it honestly
Faster than a grom should have been the title
That’s a great point!
Bad ass !
Thanks Tony!
Do you know if the TruMoto controller would work?
Sure will. TruMoto is a VESC controller so, the TruMoto app might not be the move but there are VESC apps that will allow you to use the controller with different motors. However, I think if you tune outside the TruMoto app and use a 3rd party tuning solution you may void your E&C warranty
Time to use those low level e-brake connections, lol.
😂🚀
Hall or Encoder motor?
Hall
how many watts?
Right at 22,000
Can we get away from the super minibikes, aka razor, and go with a kx65, rm65, ktm65, pick your favorite flavor. You're a big MAN step up to a kx85 or similar. let's put the toys back on the shelf and get something considered a dirt bike. This is supposed to be for fun riding with your knees spread like... well you can finish that joke is not comfortable. Take that same setup and drop it in an old kx85 frame now you're having fun and there is room for improvement. Taking a razor and replacing everything on it and putting razor stickers on it don't make it a razor. I get it! but let's up the game for us adults. I heard you say once these are not for kids, so let's stop trying to be 80 lbs. children and step up the Challege just one maybe two notches, is it really that much to ask your talking about doing 75 to 90 mph. The cheapest 65 will always beat a razor the cheapest 85 will always beat a 65 a 125 will aways beat an 85 its the hierarchy of life. instead of creating a new platform (redesign a razor) let use what's already been on the market for 25+ years. I am not saying go buy a Stark Varg here, but maybe that would be money better spent for some of ya. If ya want a dirt bike with 80hp well stop playing around, it's called a Stark Varg and it the sexiest bike ever.
Thank you for watching and thank you for the feedback 🤜🤛
60 on minibike💀
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Sign me up and take my money 🙌🏼
Seriously!
@@VoltronWatts I’ve seen a electro and co build and it’s way more expensive. Why’s this one cheaper?
I don’t have a good answer for you there. I’m 😞 sorry
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Certain high speeds on that little bike can kill you and you need to realize that small bike is not made to go 90 mph. Things can happen and failures can happen to the bike.
Thanks for watching 🤜🤛
Thanks dad
@ShotTheoryPB Gotch you fam 👊
You don’t have to watch lol
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so cool, get it going !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching! 🍻
Do you have a link for everything?
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And E&C forks Discount code for E&C is “Voltron5” 👌
@VoltronWatts what Controller did you go with? And is the motor on the rim?!?!