The Ugly Truth About the SDA View of the Cross
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- From our larger presentation on the SDA Pioneers, we dive into the ugly truth about the Adventist view of the cross and challenge the historical and theological claims that have shaped this controversial doctrine. W.H. Littlejohn, an early SDA pioneer, once argued that sins were not atoned for at Calvary-a claim that stands contrary to biblical teachings on atonement and reconciliation.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
1:34 - WH Littlejohn
8:10 - Romans 5
10:06 - Hebrews 8
19:50 - Jesus Wasn’t Created
22:14 - The Heavenly Trio is One God
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The Gospel of Jesus Christ:
Man is a sinner (Romans 3:23; 1 John 1:8) and our sin has separated us from our Maker (Isaiah 59:2). In His grace, God entered into His own creation in the person of Jesus Christ (John 1:1-14; Col. 1:19), born of a virgin (Matt. 1:23), and lived a perfect and sinless life, fulfilling all the Law’s demands (2 Cor. 5:21; Matt. 5:17), on a mission by God the Father to save sinners from condemnation (John 3:16-18, 6:37-40). He paid the penalty for sin which is death (Romans 6:23) and bore the sins of His people in His body on a cross (1 Peter 2:24), making propitiation by His blood (Romans 3:25). He died, was buried, and resurrected in the same body He died in on the third day for our justification (1 Cor. 15, Romans 4:25; Luke 24:39). By a living faith (James 2:18) in the Person and Work of Jesus (Romans 10:9-10), God graciously declares a person righteous (Romans 4:5), they are reconciled to their Creator (Romans 5:10-11), given Christ’s righteousness in full (Phil. 3:8-9), sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eph. 1:13), and have peace with God (Romans 5:1). They are born again of the Spirit (1 John 5:1, Titus 3:5), adopted into His family (Eph. 4:5-7), and are granted eternal resurrection life in Jesus Christ (1 John 5:11), set free to do good works that please Him (Eph. 2:10; 1 John 2:3-4). Jesus will physically return one day to judge the living and the dead (1 Peter 4:5; Acts 24:15; John 5:24-5), throwing the wicked out of His Kingdom (Matt. 13:41-3), but His people will be spared from the wrath to come (1 Thess. 1:10) to dwell in union with God forever (Rev. 21:3).
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Oh! The beauty of the gospel of our Savior and Lord Jesus Christ!
Hi Myles! Keep'em coming!
🙏❤️🕊️
Off topic, but I tell ya, yours, Solberg's & Academy Apologia have slowly become my top 3 favorite channels! 👈😃👍
Significant because, as a "regular" Christian (converted solely by reading the NT), I was definitely resistant to learning about the wiles & weirdness of yet another "Christian" cult (I was already forced to learn about Mormonism due to having a Mormon cousin 👀😳😱🤢🤮), but the more I learn the more I see how vitally important it is to deal promptly & swiftly with the vile & insidious heresies of this sect that has literally slipped under the Christian warning radar to infiltrate the holy flock of God! 😮 Oh how "normal seeming" this sect appears from the outside! With their normal seeming church buildings & their normal seeming preachers intoning their normal seeming sermons in their normal seeming preachy cadences... 👀 Simply diabolical 😥😢😭 It must be met. It must be resisted. It must be exposed. 🙏✝️🧎♀️
Studying Seventh Day Adventism is interesting because it makes the true gospel shine all the clearer to a person. Plus, Seventh Day Adventism is a textbook case of a false prophet bewitching people and how false doctrine leavens the whole lump.
Indeed. Only through the blood our sins can be removed and we can be made righteous by faith!
"Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." - Acts 2:37-38 KJV
Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3,1John 4:1,and what is Christmas, Goodfriday and Easter according to the Bible?
@@vusimngomezulu2500 HI. Your question is similar to this when a person asks, "Which church is the true church?" he or she is often asking which denomination is correct. Is the true church Baptist? Episcopalian? Pentecostal? It's a good question, but it's important to understand that the church is not a visible building or organization. Rather, the true church is the family of all those who have faith in Jesus Christ and are born again by the power of the Holy Spirit (John 3:3).
The New Testament defines the church in two distinct ways. First, the church comprises all believers. This is often called the universal church. Second, the New Testament also uses the word church in the sense of a local group of believers who meet together to worship God. For example, there is the church at Jerusalem (Acts 8:1), the church at Ephesus (Revelation 2:1), and the church which met in Nympha's house (Colossians 4:15). Together, saved members of local churches are part of the universal church.
Of course, being a member of a Bible-teaching local church is important (Hebrews 10:25). But more important than joining a church is knowing you are born again (2 Corinthians 13:5). No church can save you. Only Jesus saves, by grace through faith in His death and resurrection (Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 10:9-10).
In Brazil, SDA doesn't accept anyone as member who doesn't believe in EGW ideas wrote on her books, being one of the requirements of them. Is that true on other earth's places? Greetings from Brazil!
Clear, concise and to the point. Thanks Myles 🕊️
A serious question for Adventists: was Ellen White physically transported to heaven in her visionary experiences or was the experience nonphysical? Were these visions out of body experiences or did the events unfold solely in her physical brain?
@@mosessemondo7776
That doesn't answer my question. Please only reply to the questions asked.
@@AWW8472they were visions,,not physical,,acts2:17,,,Joel 2:28
Great , God bless your ministry , Myles .
Like I've been saying:
SDAs don't know the Gospel.
Because they have their own gospel
This is such a great video thanks for this awesome video- brother Myles-
It seems their theology is always counterintuitive.
Thanks for continuously exposing them ❤🎉🥰
Adventism has no clue about what the gospel is.
Are you sure?
@@linomario258
There doesn't seem to be an adventist who can say.
So please enlighten us with your falsehoods! 🤔
@@mosessemondo7776
And here is another SDA who cannot profess the Gospel of Christ; things we learned as children.
What you describe as "unique gospel" is false gospel; unique to the adventist/Ellen.
@@mosessemondo7776-The SDA movement is not Christian It doesn’t have the Gospel of Christ and it is a Cult- that adores Ellen G. White and her blasphemous prophecies and Books-
glad i saw this video, very clear teaching about propitiation. GOD sent CHRIST to die for me the ungodly. Keep working to take the claws of the SDA church doctrine out of people.
I really thank you brother for all yr efforts but what I must tell you is that you will only move those ones who are shaky in this faith
The SDA church has all the characters of a cult .
The SDA church "BITEs", if you know what I mean...
Thanks!
Dear Answering Adventism, do you keep the seventh day sabbath after leaving the SDA church? or no. I just wonder what you think of the sabbath day since leaving.
It's hard to believe & change if already comfortable in one position. Anyway , God knows His children/ followers.
Sad sad sad …. When people speak some truth and mix it with lies . SMH 🤦🏿♂️
Christ is both the sacrifice and high priest of the true sanctuary as recorded in Hebrews. This would mean Christ would have to fulfill his role in the sanctuary for all atonement to be complete. The Bible is honest here and told us that the earthly sanctuary was made from the pattern of the one in heaven. Why would there be a sanctuary in heaven if God had no purpose for it?
You can't mix law and grace
@@bekisto82 old and new testament together
@@mattmc9812 law and grace work in perfect harmony, that's why inside the ark of covenant was the 10commandments, and over it the mercy seat,,if God made void the law it would literally be lawlessness,,is God lawless?,,romans 3:31,,,Paul says do wethen make void the law??certainly not,,on the contrary,,we establish it
@@CarlosDiaz-mz6bngrace is a law in the hearts us. It helps to create a strong desire to obey God not Adventist legalism
@@mattmc9812 help me understand this,,grace is a law?,,,,so does this mean the law is grace?are they the same?
@@mattmc9812 Two great eras of God's dealings with mankind; the first of which was preparatory to the second, and the second of which is the completion of the first. Their scriptural designations are:
First: The Old Covenant; or the Law and the Prophets; or simply, the Law.
Second: The New Covenant; or the Kingdom of God; or simply, the Gospel.
This division is not man-made, artificial, conjectural; for it comes to us plainly marked in the structure of the Bible itself, which is composed of two grand divisions,
the Old Testament,
and the New Testament.
(And it should be noted that the word "Testament" is one of the renderings of a Greek word that is sometimes, as in Hebrews 8:6-10, and should be always, translated "Covenant").
There are three living persons of the heavenly trio, in the name of these great powers- the Father, the son, and the Holy Spirit- those Who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers Will cooperate with the obedient subjets of heavenly in their efforts to live the New life in Christ. Sp. TBO7 63.2
Tratando todavía de dar la verdadera dirección a su fe, Jesús declaró: “Yo soy la resurrección y la vida.” En Cristo hay vida original, que no proviene ni deriva de otra. “El que tiene al Hijo, tiene la vida.”2 La divinidad de Cristo es la garantía que el creyente tiene de la vida eterna. DTG c. 58 p.489.2 (español)
Ye shall receive power, 365 devotional. Talking about the Holy Spirit.
Heb 9:28 ISV so the Messiah was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people. And he will appear a second time, not to deal with sin, but to bring salvation to those who eagerly wait for him.
The day of Atonement was not fulfilled at the cross
Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Trumpets, Day of Atonement, and Booths or Tabernacles
He was the Passover lamb at the cross the day of Atonement was
About to happen
Heb 10:25 ISV not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another even more as you see the day of the Lord coming nearer.
NEAR
Heb 10:37 ISV For “in a very little while the one who is coming will return- he will not delay;
Rev 1:1 ISV This is the revelation of Jesus the Messiah, which God gave him to show his servants the things that must happen soon. He made it known by sending his messenger to his servant John,
Rev 1:7 ISV Look! He is coming in the clouds. Every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of him. So be it! Amen.
Hay tres personas vivientes en el trío celestial; en el nombre de esos tres grandes poderes-el Padre, el Hijo y el Espíritu Santo-los que reciben a Cristo por medio de una fe viviente son bautizados, y esos poderes cooperarán con los obedientes súbditos del cielo en sus esfuerzos por vivir una nueva vida en Cristo.-Evangelism, 615. ELC 338.2
What is this video about? If all sins were "remitted" at the cross, automatically no sinner needs to even slightly worry about his final fate
@@warpnin3 not even close.
1. This is a clip from a 4 hour presentation
2. You need to study redemption ACCOMPLISHED versus redemption APPLIED
Just because redemption was accomplished in full at Calvary doesn’t mean it was fully applied at that point.
That’s right if we are in Christ and follower Him Jesus says there is No condemnation for all believers . Can you tell me really that you keep all the ten perfectly if you say yes you are not telling the truth no one the Bible states can keep them , that’s why Jesus had to come He took our sins upon Himself on the cross the wrath of God was on us until Jesus came and took it upon himself to. Shame on you all who think that you will be saved by keeping laws . You need to read the Bible ALONE without your false prophet and then you will find truth .
"You do not receive, because you do not ask."
~ James
"Ask & it will be given to you."
~ Jesus
Dont wanna change subject but i just seen how egw talked to her dead husband is this true?
According to her, Yes. Not only did she talk to her dead husband/familiar spirit, she accepted counseling from her dead husband/familiar spirit.
@@Adam-N-Eve
That is not true .
Liars will not go to Heaven.
SDA here
Now go dig a little deeper and you will see that she simply had a dream where they were conversing. And from that dream she believed God was telling her(not her dead husband) not to go to the GC.
It's a no wonder why there are many ex-SDA's.
Myles himself even tried to use this false claim on his website. and though he recognized and wrote of our stance, he concluded by saying...
"Not only is this false, but it attributes to God that which He forbids in His own Word. God doesn’t speak to people in dreams by using their deceased relatives."
As if God is a familiar spirit or used the spirit of her dead husband.
For reference on our stance about this and the location of this on this channels website just type in the search(on google and this channels website..."did ellen G. white talk to her dead husband" (its a pdf on our site).
Yes this is true I was an Adventist for 35 years I know all about her, YES SHE DID TALK TO HER DEAD HUSBAND AND TAKE IS INSTRUCTIONS ON GOIG TO CALIFORNIA.
@@levangiledestroisanges A few days since, I was pleading with the Lord for light in regard to my duty. In the night I dreamed I was in the carriage, driving, sitting at the right hand. Father was in the carriage, seated at my left hand. He was very pale, but calm and composed. “Why Father,” I exclaimed, “I am so happy to have you by my side once more! I have felt that half of me was gone. Father, I saw you die; I saw you buried. Has the Lord pitied me and let you come back to me again, and we work together as we used to?”
He looked very sad. He said, “The Lord knows what is best for you and for me. My work was very dear to me. We have made a mistake. We have responded to urgent invitations of our brethren to attend important meetings. We had not the heart to refuse. These meetings have worn us both more than we were aware. Our good brethren were gratified, but they did not realize that in these meetings we took upon us greater burdens than at our age we could safely carry. They will never know the result of this long-continued strain upon us. God would have had them bear the burdens we have carried for years. Our nervous energies have been continuously taxed, and then our brethren misjudging our motives and not realizing our burdens have wakened the action of the heart. I have made mistakes, the greatest of which was in allowing my sympathies for the people of God to lead me to take work upon me which others should have borne.
“Now, Ellen, calls will be made as they have been, desiring you to attend important meetings, as has been the case in the past. But lay this matter before God and make no response to the most earnest invitations. Your life hangs as it were upon a thread. You must have quiet rest, freedom from all excitement and from all disagreeable areas. We might have done a great deal for years with our pens, on subjects the people need that we have had light upon and can present before them, which others do not have. Thus you can work when your strength returns, as it will, and you can do far more with your pen than with your voice.”
He looked at me appealingly and said, “You will not neglect these cautions, will you, Ellen? Our people will never know under what infirmities we have labored to serve them because our lives were interwoven with the progress of the work, but God knows it all. I regret that I have felt so deeply and labored unreasonably in emergencies, regardless of the laws of life and health. The Lord did not require us to carry so heavy burdens and many of our brethren so few. We ought to have gone to the Pacific Coast before, and devoted our time and energies to writing. Will you do this now? Will you, as your strength returns, take your pen and write out these things we have so long anticipated, and make haste slowly? There is important matter which the people need. Make this your first business. You will have to speak some to the people, but shun the responsibilities which have borne us down.”
“Well,” said I, “James, you are always to stay with me now and we will work together.” Said he, “I stayed in Battle Creek too long. I ought to have gone to California more than one year ago. But I wanted to help the work and institutions at Battle Creek. I have made a mistake. Your heart is tender. You will be inclined to make the same mistakes I have made. Your life can be of use to the cause of God. Oh, those precious subjects the Lord would have had me bring before the people, precious jewels of light!”
I awoke. But this dream seemed so real. Now you can see and understand why I feel no duty to go to Battle Creek for the purpose of shouldering the responsibilities in General Conference. I have no duty to stand in General Conference. The Lord forbids me. That is enough. -Letter 17, 1881.7
This is pure blasphemy against the cross of our Savior … well they believe a false prophet they will go where she is now he’ll
So in the sanctuary service which points to Christ, when the lamb was sacrificed, that was it?. The priest did not have to take the blood into the sanctuary? You need to study. Don't lead people into the ditch. Mat_15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. Still praying for you.
@@ralphsherman8404 “you need to study”
How’s about you contact us Ralph and come onto AA live and we’ll have a discussion to see who does and doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
Until then, pipe down. I have exhaustive presentations on this subject. It’s your faulty assumptions that are the problem, not my understanding.
So Jesus died for nothing.
@@penjorepilyo3944 he died to pay the penalty for sin in their system and vindicate the 10 commandments which they claim Satan began attacking in heaven before the earth was created. Jesus’s death showed that Satan is a liar and the law can’t be changed.
But that’s what they think the cross was about. Vindicating the 10 commandments and Gods character and it was the gateway that made salvation possible for people to be able to come to God and get an upgrade to being able to also keep the 10 commandments and silence Satan just like Jesus.
@@answeringadventism Myles, ask yourself Why no crosses on SDA church buildings. I used to think that absence of the cross on and within various SDA "churches" was basically an anti Catholic gesture.
The topic about the Cross, makes me wonder if the real reason doesn't run deeper.
Maybe it's the SDA doctrine that denies the all-sufficiency of the cross to make a complete atonement between sinful humans and a sinless God.
What do you think? Why no crosses on/within SDA churches?
Does any of their churches have a cross at the top of its steeple?
Or, if no steeple, any large cross outside your church so that anybody driving by at the speed limit can easily see it and say,
"Hey, there's a Seventh-day Adventist church with a cross on it! Heavenly daisies! They must have purchased the building from the Methodists and haven't gotten around to removing the cross yet."
CalledUntoHoliness. The Spirit of God can only be given to those who OBEY GOD. Acts 5:32. If people make excuses NOT to obey God, then it must be concluded it is another spirit they have.
Are you being paid to do this show?
@@marycarr3684 in heavenly treasures, yes.
@bekito82 you are now being blocked for continuing to bear false witness despite the channel guidelines saying such is not tolerated.
I’m not an antinomian and have stated this numerous times. You’re a liar.
I asked a simple question: are you being paid to do this show?
Yes, you tube pays him every time an add pops up while watching the vids.
Figures! So if the Seventh Day Adventist didn’t respond- there would be NO SHOW!
What W.H. Littlejohn is arguing is the concept of ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED doctrine that comes from the Devil itself. The blood of Christ remit the sins of the past as well as the present and future sins only if you asked for forgiveness. There is no such thing as sins remitted once and for all of a person’s life . That’s why a Christian life is a continuous battle against sin till that person’s dies. Justification is instantaneous like the thief on the cross, but his life ended there as well that’s why he was forever saved . But for most of us , only those who will endures to the end will be saved.
Oh brother. This is always the excuse for statements like this. No, not all people who believe sin was cancelled at Calvary believe in eternal security in any form-once saved, always saved or otherwise. Because not all views of security are the same. Littlejohn espoused heresy. Nothing to do with once saved, always saved.
You need to study redemption accomplished versus redemption applied.
@@answeringadventism : Let’s put aside W.H.Littlejohn statement just for now , and let me ask you a question; Do you believed the ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED doctrine ?
@@samuelbongcayao3733 Do you believe in the eternal security of the believer (OSAS). Its a Biblical doctrine to believe.
If" one is truly saved, then he or she is always saved, eternally secure in the everlasting arms of God. This does NOT give anyone a license to sin (Romans 3:31). However, there's no such thing as a believer who doesn't sin every day, in one form or another. Christians at best are people, and people at best are sinners.
Most professed "Christians" nowadays have never been saved. They have churchianity without Christianity.
They worship God falsely, not having truth (John 4:24), or the Spirit which only a born-again Christian can possess. The teaching of "Once Saved, Always Saved" frustrates many people, because they misunderstand it to mean that a person can believe on Jesus and live in gross immorality at the same time, with no remorse, no conviction. Nothing could be further from the truth of God's Word! Hebrews 16:5-8 plainly teaches that God chastises His children when they sin. And carefully notice that they DO SIN, which is why God must chastise them.
"Once Saved, Always Saved" only applies to those who truly have been born-again. No believer can ever lose what was not theirs to give in the first place. Salvation is of God alone (John 1:12,13). Man's part is simply to trust upon the Lord Jesus Christ to have his or her sins forgiven. Some people may prefer to say, "If Saved, Always Saved." But in essence, both statement are equivalent. The big concern here is to examine your heart and ask yourself, "Am I a born-again Christian?"
Are you saved? If you are enjoying living in sin, with no guilt before God, and you don't see yourself as a hell-deserving rotten sinner, then you've not saved my friend. Repentance brings about a change of mind concerning one's sins. Although forsaking one's sins is NOT a part of saving-faith; coming before God as a guilty sinner in need of forgiveness most certainly is. We are sinners and Jesus is the Savior.
@bekisto82 no I don’t. Stop bearing false witness. As I explained in my initial comment-once saved always saved is a very specific belief. Not all views of security are the same. So stop lying and learn to listen. No, I don’t believe in once saved, always saved.
@@terrygreenman1540 : Thank you for bringing these out and I can only agree with you . God being Omniscient , knows exactly as to who will be saved and those who will be lost even before He created the world. Their number cannot changed , because God can never be wrong. But His being omniscient does not predetermined a person’s saved or lost status. God simply knows the choices a person makes either to accept Jesus and follow him or accept and later on reject Jesus Christ and not follow him. So it would be presumptuous for a person to say with certainty that ; HE IS SAVED ! Because as Prophet Jeremiah said “ The heart is deceitful above all things, who can KNOW it “ . 17:9 . Our assurance is in Christ Jesus who shed his blood for us and is determined to saved us. We are still on the battlefield and we falter or sinned as often as we are , and the blood of Jesus Christ is always fresh to cleanse us. As long as you get up when you fall , even how many times , God’s Grace can never be exhausted.
Myles why do people continue to committing sin in this life. Where is your justification in regard to your argument. And will you reconciled with q John 2:1,2; Hebrews 8:1, 2 and Revelation 14:7 "Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come..." Why judgment? How will you explain the word "has come." You are preaching the devil's sermon because that is what Satan is doing now through human counterfeit evil agencies. Telling people that our sins are forgiven at Calvary which true but promoting continue sinning by choice. You forgot it.
“But promoting continue sinning by choice”
This was never claimed, said, nor believed. Why are you making things up?
You guys really need to study redemption accomplished versus redemption applied. This is why Adventist theology is such a mess. The fact that you guys think everyone was confused on this until your sectarian movement rose up in the 19th century is almost sad.
People continue committing sin in this life because they haven’t been glorified yet. Sin is falling short of Gods glory (Romans 6). Until a person is glorified, they will war with sin.
This is very simple. It’s only your guys convoluted system that was born out of a false prophecy and false prophets that finds this confusing and hard to grasp.
Because judgment begins with the house of God.
Because we are supposed to judge those inside the church. God will judge those outside.
Because in their greed these seemingly "Christian" teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories.
Because for three years the Apostle Paul never stopped warning the flock of God night and day with tears that men WILL arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. That day is upon us now.
The gospel ( the good news of salvation) is not a gospel that encourages, excuses, condones sin and sanctions our disobedience against GODS kingdom of righteousness. The true gospel isban everlasting gospel that started when sin entered Gal 3:29 . If Adam had not sinned then this gospel would not have been necessary but was added to the eternal law to save us from.our predicament . This gospel.teaches us that if we confess and forsake our sin THENJesus will forgive our sins and be merciful to us Prov 28: 13. This gospel.tells us that only saying we have the true Jesus and don't keep His commands we are liars and the truth is not in us This gospel.is the same gospel that through obedience our right to the Tree of life will be restored back to us that we lost in Eden through disobedience and we may enter into the gates into the city of God. WHAT GOSPEL DO YOU WANT TO BELIEVE. .one that encourages sin against God or the true gospel that saves us from disobedience towards God John 3 : 17-21. I know what my choice is!!!!!
Daniel 8:14
NKJV
14 And he said to me, “For two thousand three hundred 8days; then the sanctuary shall be cleansed.”
?? What does that have to do with anything? What was trampled in 457 BC that was ‘untrampeled’ in 1844?
Nada fue pisoteado en el 457 a.C. los 2300 días, corren paralelo a las 70 semanas.
The original text says 2300 evenings and mornings. hat difference is very important to understand the prophecy.
Even if you try to spray a nightingale black, its song will still remain clear and harmonious. You can try to spray Adventism black but God’s Word will remain the same today and for ever.
You mean „Gods“ word you choose and pick, interpreted by EGW? If you start with Paul he calls your new three angels message a curse, he calls you being under the law (covenant from mount Sinai) cursed!
Adventism was born black. No need to spray paint.
@@kimartist true verily! They started from a big lie, how can now truth come out of it? Their Jesus going into the most holy in 1844 is so absurd and foolish, how cannot everybody see it? Lies are so powerful in this world
That's the exact opposite of reality. He's not "spraying Adventism black", it's already that way. Adventists try to paint their black crow white and call it a dove, but it still says "Caw! Caw! Caw!" instead of "Coo! Coo! Coo!". Following the ravings of the 19th Century equivalent of "That Vegan Teacher" will twist your perceptions of Scripture and lead you to mentally add things it doesn't say and remove things it does say.
I also read your so called email with ADL about the debate, sounds like your making excuses not to debate them cause you'd get owned!!
If you know the bible like you should then E.G.W. LINES up with it, so far from the conflict of the ages series I've been reading via in context. You do a lot of twisting and turning to make her say what you want her too.
Reformed Presbyterian Gospel: Believe in Jesus Christ and follow the Decalogue by going to church on Sunday
SDA Gospel: Believe in Jesus Christ and follow the Decalogue by going to church on Saturday
Profound.
But the Adventist have added Michael and Ellen to their Godhead.
So SDAs are just Presbyterians that go to church on Saturday? You cannot possibly be that unintelligent
@@mattmurdock2868 no they haven’t that’s a blatant lie
@@jonasaras grow up man
@@OnBail-gq6cb
Adherents of the SDA cult follow the "gospel" of Ellen White, not Jesus Christ.
The teachings from SDA and Watchtower are strikingly similar, almost identical; both dead wrong.
You are trying to interpret Adventist doctrine through your own theology (mindset, particularly) which is why you can't understand it.
“Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God?”
- Psalms 77:13 (KJV)
Salvation is not an event. It is a process. Just as salvation is progressive and a process, so we must walk with Jesus through the sanctuary.
When Christ began his ministry, it was pointed out by John the Baptist, "Behold the Lamb of God". John was not merely making an observation, but was pointing out that salvation depended on accepting that role that Jesus portrayed in the sanctuary service. Any other understanding would be a false gospel.
The blood of Christ initiated atonement. And also when atonement is received, atonement is complete, in so far as it is sufficient for the time in which it is received. But as a process, atonement has not yet been completed. For the believer, at any time, the need for atonement can be satisfied, - complete, and yet at the same time not complet-ed, for salvation is a journey.
Only as Christ leads us through the sanctuary can our atonement be completed. As it was for the believer, so it was for the church corporate. The leaders of the church must also follow Christ through his sanctuary.
To follow Christ through the sanctuary, meant that the believer, and the church corporate must hold on to the scripture as the sole authority, and bear witness to the truth, and maintain his communion with God, in prayer. This was of course, the meaning of the table of show bread, the candlesticks, and the altar of incense. As Christ revealed the light, so the reformers must lead their congregations in the same light. The believer continues to receive atonement as they continue to receive the light.
As they receive more light, their need of Christ as a sin bearer continues. His atonement on the cross is still needed, for the light reveals the defects in character that must be atoned for.
The final stage of atonement in the individual believers life, and in the church as a whole, is the receiving of the Law, not merely in part, but as it is revealed to them in its fullness by Christ himself, the Law being the representation of his character. (And more light is revealed as we walk in the light). To honor any other Christ is to honour a false gospel.
The law must not just be received, but must become part of the believer, as one who reflects Christ's image. Only as this true understanding and impartation of Christ's character becomes reality, only then can the sanctuary itself be vindicated for the role that it plays in the believer's life. When this happens, then it can be said that the whole of Christ's character has been imparted to the believer, just as the whole sanctuary represented the whole character of Christ.
Sacrificial atonement began with the Lamb of God. The ceremonial atonement (or the Day of Atonement), is the crowning symbol of the individual believer receiving full atonement, and also the church corporate as the church receives the full meaning of the Law (as in 1844), and purges all that is false from itself, honouring Christ in all his fullness, as it has now becomes apparent to them. And this is the judgment, the determining of all who are the true followers of Christ, and who are not.
To follow any other Christ, or to refuse to follow Christ through the sanctuary, is to follow a false gospel.
“You are trying to interpret Adventist doctrine through your own theology”
Uhh, no, this clip was an INTERNAL critique, not an external one. I talk about this constantly. 🤦♂️
Stopped reading after that. Do better.
The shedding of blood will have no power over your sin Unless you confess what you have done wrong. So you stop misleading people.
Misleading? Are you for real. The blood of JESUS is the only sacrifice acceptable to God. Our sin is ALREADY atoned for because Jesus did that already. And this is accessible by faith. Whether or not we believe does not negate that the sacrifice has ALREADY been done. Read your Bible.
How many sins have you committed in total?
you are nuts, if atonement was complete at the cross then: why is there a Judgement coming? and Why hasn't Jesus returned. sorry dude, but you are clearly NOT thinking clearly.
@@timcable right, the Christian church for 2000 years wasn’t “thinking clearly” until sectarian Adventists came along to correct us all. Lol
Clearly you aren’t familiar with redemption accomplished versus redemption applied. It’s you that needs to better familiarize.
Poor Myles ,such a great christian ,,so busy removing specks out his brothers eyes he hasn't taken the time to remove the plank out his,,,this man is oblivious to the obsession he has with hating sda,,ironically this fanatical ,obsessive, almost supernatural hate towards sda kinda made me curious to look into what sda's are about,, I'm an sda for a year now,,God has an interesting way of working things out
I pity you brother
Good job installing a plank in your own eye! 👏😄
The-SDA’s Cult has nothing more to say to defend their false doctrine-
iIs this your best defense of the false prophet Ellen G. White-
@@mattmc9812 what good does that do anyone,,what's your pitty worth??is it of any value?have you studied the sabbath,state of the dead,investigative judgment??
@@kimartist which plank? Sabbath doctrine, state of the dead,investigative judgment,?,,maybe you can help me see more clearly
The Trinity is a false doctrine.
Jesus is the literal Son of God. Meaning, He has a beginning , he was born of the Father in eternity past.
The trinity denies the doctrine of the atonement.
Respectfully, John 1:1 defends the Father and Son being one.
Jesus is eternal just as God is eternal
If Jesus is the "literal" son, who is the literal mother?
you- obviously have no idea what you are saying- I pray the LORD Forgives your blasphemy-
@@kimartist respectfully, the Godhead isn't bound by biology. Or are you saying Jesus didn't exist until Mary gave birth to Him?
Or was Mary there in John 1:1?
Think for a moment..
Discernment is required.
@@DannoRomann I only know what that bible says my friend.
Anyone who knows the TRUTH about "Shadows", will know that from the Old Sacrificial System to the New Testament, there has to be the following :
1. An Alter of Sacrifice (Calvary)
2. A Real Lamb (Christ)
3. A Priest/High Priest (Christ)
4. A Priest that enters the Holy Place with blood (Christ enters with his own)
5. A High Priest that ultimately makes an Atonement for SIN within the "Most Holy Place of the Sanctuary". (Christ, who became our High Priest, performs this in the future)
Therefore, for anyone to say that sins were forgiven at the cross is either delusion, or doesn't understand the bible, or a combination of both!
If this didn't occur, then Christ was not the Lamb, and your Christianity is in Vain!
@@Vincent-gc3cu your entire premise fails on the simple fact that Jesus wasn’t inaugurated to be a priest at his ascension. He functioned as a priest at Calvary when he “made propitiation” (Romans 3; Hebrews 2). The same “shadow” you point to required the priest offer up the day of atonement sacrifice.
But yeah, Christianity was in vain until Adventism came along with their novel theology born out of a false prophecy. Good one. Now Paul the apostle is delusional according to you-who tells us that the sin debt was cancelled at Calvary in Colossians 2-what you guys erroneously say is talking about ceremonial laws lol
Jeremiah is now “delusional” who tells us that part of the promise of the new covenant is God remembers the sins of His people no more.
Good one, Adventist.
@@bekisto82
It aligns well.
If the law is written in your heart and mind, this means you no longer have the desire to sin.
This is what being Born Again accomplishes. When Christ rose to heaven he promised that he would send his Holy Spirit as his representative. This is the function of the Holy Spirit.
1 JOHN 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God
Unless you search scripture by yourself, you will not stand what is about to come upon the world. The reason why myles mislead many of you when it come to study of Santuary is because you don't take time search scripture by yourself. The study of Santuary is live and kicking in heaven. Myles can not mislead me when it comes to Sabbath and Santuary.
@@answeringadventism
Please show us where the PROPITIATION and the Lamb was slain simultaneously in the Old Testament Mr. Myles????
REMEMBER, we are dealing with Shadows here, so don't have selective AMNESIA on me Again!
@@Vincent-gc3cuHave you ever read the New Testament? Asking for a friend.
A channel of jokes 😅
Thanks for the entertainment😂😂😂
Drinking while talking to us. Bad manners.
Seriously?!? Apropos User Id, apparently ~~~
what a ridiculous thing to critique - brother myles can drink sip of water while talking there isnt anything wrong with that whatsoever-
Trolling on youtube is bad manners- 😊
CalledUntoHoliness. The Spirit of God can only be given to those who OBEY GOD. Acts 5:32. If people make excuses NOT to obey God, then it must be concluded it is another spirit they have.