Don McAdams Ellen White : Our Treasure and Our Challenge 5 4 24 YouTube

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 6 тра 2024
  • Dr. McAdams shares both the story of his paper beginning 1974 and today the book ELLEN WHITE & The Historians along with the history and backstories from 1970's and 1980's. Exciting times, with the struggle between the historians, scholars and the White Estate and the church. It's frankly about the same as part of the 1919 Bible Conference.
  • Комедії

КОМЕНТАРІ • 34

  • @SDAQandA
    @SDAQandA Місяць тому +13

    This is amazing! I’ve interviewed George Knight, Ron Numbers, Jon Butler, Gil Valentine, Des Ford, Ron Graybill, Matthew Korpman, Bob Brinsmead, Norm Young, and around 80 other sda scholars and academics! And this is in my top 5 most concise and clear presentations of this time period! I’m literally on my second viewing and have written Don and asked if he’d come on my show! I hope I had the correct email! Anyway. Thanks so much for sharing this video! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @stephencoe2231
    @stephencoe2231 Місяць тому +7

    There is just too much money to be made 😕 for salvation of souls. A very hot place in hell is waiting and Ellen bring a lot of vinegar and alcohol cause the hell is eternal

  • @BrianBeaden
    @BrianBeaden Місяць тому

    The youtube algorithm dropped this in my sidebar. Dr Donald McAdams contextualises modern SDA & EGW history in this presentation. This is gold.

  • @KarlsKronicles
    @KarlsKronicles Місяць тому +2

    Wow. This is gold. I presented Adventist History at our camp meeting last year (2023). Speakers present one day during the week at the workers morning meeting, and I got Wednesday. I spoke on three things. The new books by Gillian Ford, On the Way to Glacier View, Valentine's book, Ostriches and Canaries and your book, Ellen White and the Historians. Seems I remember stumbling on a copy of your paper online some time ago. You know, one of those shared copies that weren't supposed to be released. OPPs. But your book was gold, putting it all into historical context along with the revisions. I remember the one line you mentioned in the paper that explained the whole thing to me, maybe because I resonate with it. Not quoting, you said you were not dealing with her use of sources, but rather, her authority. Bingo. The why of the paper. We as a church was not ready to deal with that then. You were ahead of your time. Thank you for your work. When the real historical Ellen is restored (maybe for the first time), we can safely engage and receive the blessing we have been missing. I do believe God used her to put the wheels on this movement; and maybe there is an under-rated appreciation for her part in this. Maybe it's time for me to do a Karl's Kronicles episode on the book.

  • @haroldocamacho8593
    @haroldocamacho8593 Місяць тому +9

    Treasure? EGW is a millstone around the neck of Adventism.

    • @19818456
      @19818456 Місяць тому +7

      And they're sunk deep in the ocean of delusion and confusion!

  • @chrissmoot7038
    @chrissmoot7038 Місяць тому +1

    Enjoyed this presentation very much.

  • @KarlsKronicles
    @KarlsKronicles Місяць тому +3

    Like Peter Dixon, I too would like to view the Q&A

  • @SDAQandA
    @SDAQandA Місяць тому +6

    Is the Q&A available to watch as well? I can’t find it. But wow. This was amazing!

  • @kevinmorgan8782
    @kevinmorgan8782 Місяць тому +1

    51:15 It is true that the 1884 Great Controversy--originally called THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY, vol. 4--was not designed for colporteurs. However, there are 1885, 1886, and 1887 printings of the book as a stand-alone volume with the title on the cover, "The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan." There is no mention that it is part of the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY set. I own one printed in 1885, and I show it on my video ""Ellen White Reconsidered" No. 21 - ELLEN WHITE AND THE HUSS MANUSCRIPT."

  • @arthurandteresabeem7142
    @arthurandteresabeem7142 Місяць тому +1

    We may do an "Adventist Talk" about this book and I was wondering if anyone knows how to contact Dr. McAdams for a comment.

  • @charnelallan7159
    @charnelallan7159 Місяць тому +5

    She borrowed enormous of The GREAT CONTROVERSY AMONG OTHER BOOKS THAT SHE COPIED FROM OTHER AUTHORS YET WE BELIEVE SHES INSPIRED, THIUGH SHE SAID IN HER WRITINGS HER BOOKS DID NIT COME FROM ERRING MORTALS.
    SDA'S SUFFERS FROM COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

    • @19818456
      @19818456 29 днів тому +1

      I can debunk all her false claims of inspiration🤣

  • @Snowcrystalsfalling
    @Snowcrystalsfalling 26 днів тому

    Money is the key.

  • @Jaco3688
    @Jaco3688 26 днів тому +3

    Ellen White: When Jesus said “It is finished”, He basically overstated His work on the cross. His death was NOT an atonement for sins, it only bought everybody a little time (probation) to earn some brownie points which they could present to God at the Investigative Judgement, so people could show why they should qualify to get into heaven.
    This is blasphemy. This is a damnable doctrine.

  • @haroldocamacho8593
    @haroldocamacho8593 21 день тому +1

    Ellen White is your treasure? I thought Christ was every believer's treasure.

  • @eblanco2176
    @eblanco2176 Місяць тому +4

    Jer 23:30 & 31 states what God thinks about "borrowing". UA-cam Test the Prophet

    • @19818456
      @19818456 Місяць тому +2

      This is the most dreaded text for Ellen White and the Church. They avoid this at all costs because it points a straight finger at their prophet!

  • @sheilabetty2464
    @sheilabetty2464 26 днів тому +2

    A false prophet great

  • @michaelblaise8664
    @michaelblaise8664 21 день тому

    This presentation is a sad example of how human beings want inspiration to be beyond our ability to choose to reject. God used other humans to help Ellen communicate what she saw in vision. Ellen was shown by the Holy Spirit and by angels what we need now to focus on. Satan is deceiving the whole world into eternal darkness, and Don wants to exalt small human brains as the final filter for truth. No thank you. I will receive the Holy Spirit and how He works with humanity.

  • @sabrinafrederick4141
    @sabrinafrederick4141 16 днів тому

    False prophet.

  • @coleedo7920
    @coleedo7920 Місяць тому

    I think that folks forget that prophets are not perfect. Many prophets in the Bible were corrected by God. They made mistakes.

    • @19818456
      @19818456 29 днів тому +1

      It is true, but they have to be honest in admitting their errors, in her case, her plagiarism!

    • @Jaco3688
      @Jaco3688 26 днів тому +3

      “I write not one thing on my own, but these testimonies are from the rats of light from the throne of God.” (paraphrased). God should NOT be giving out false information to His prophets!

    • @coleedo7920
      @coleedo7920 26 днів тому

      @@19818456 I agree, but you have to understand in that time we didn’t have the same rules of using quotes from other people like we do now and also, she wasn’t trying to hide it. She actually recommended the books that she used as reading and references.

    • @james-wz4js
      @james-wz4js 21 день тому +1

      ​@coleedo7920 she was dishonest, caught on many occasions, and copied from other authors more than 85% of her writing (according to the sda church)

    • @Jaco3688
      @Jaco3688 21 день тому

      @@james-wz4js The vast, vast majority of SDAs are not on a Truth quest. No matter how much evidence is proffered, there will never be enough for some to be honest with the facts