Dr. O EXPLAINS Present Truth! Do SDAs Place Present Truth Above The Cross?
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- SDA critics often argue that the Adventist Church puts much emphasis on the Sunday Law, Mark of The Beast, the Sabbath etc. and place the cross of Calvary beneath these teachings. However, what do our official sources teach? Where do we view the cross in light of present truth?
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It's so sad, many will be lost by no knowledge of the Bible & Listening to uneducated people who don't read it properly & give their own take on the Bible😊
Until you say that that Jesus Christ (is the second goat that's bearing your sins on the cross!!! you're not saved now!! and you never will be!
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
Study the role of the "High Priest" of the Old Testament.
Then you will understand why Christ became our "High Priest" in the New Testament.
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
Said by you, and certain priests.. but if you dont mind, pls show supporting texts that the word of God says that..
Praise God for you and your ministry!!! For such a time as this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would that matter ?you don't have Jesus of Hebrews 7:13
I would love to hear their definition of present truth. They cannot run away from it because it's a phrase used in Scripture.
Why would anyone reject this definition of 'present truth' for an alternative one?🤷♂️.
I hope all those honest seekers of truth will see how baseless the acquisitions against the SDA Church are and make decisions to join it.
So the first thing that created you from the very beginning is a false interpretation of Daniel 8! so give me the interpretation of Daniel 8 and defend what you're teaching!
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv seems like you already know our interpretation of Dan 8 coz u said it's false. Would you give us the right interpretation?
@@DefendingAdventism
Everybody seems to know what SDA teach. Except Adventists.
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@@Stefan-X24 and that's really sad
@@DefendingAdventismJesus tells you how to understand this in Matthew 24:15.. He said when you see the( abomination of desolation) (standing in the Holy place) than the people in Judea should flee, and He says it's( written in the Book of Daniel).. for those who have (understanding )!so this requires understanding!! and you're going to say that what I'm going to say is not the truth!.. because if you actually know the truth!! you're going to have to get rid of everything you believe!!! the (transgression of desolation is Daniel 8:13 ) that Jesus is speaking of and it's speaking about the[ Holy place ]that He's speaking of.( in Matthew 24:15 )the guy that does the (abomination of desolation ) in that (Holy place) at the( end of time ) Matthew 24:3 as it says in Daniel 8. 3 times ..it leads you form media Persia ,Greece, and then to the( last king of time )!!!and that (last king) operates for 2300 days in that location!! . the guy that makes the( agreement) for Daniel 9:27..( the prince of the Covenant) Daniel 11:22 ..is the same King Daniel 11:21 (that wins the kingdom by flatteries ) pompous words in Daniel 7,, understand Stark sentences in Daniel 8,,. the little Horn of Daniel 7.. and the he of Daniel 12:11.. it's the abomination of desolation right in the middle of Daniel 9:27!!!! that you have destroyed!!! you had to... because otherwise Daniel 8[ could be understood ]!!!!an SDA Falls flat on its face ..[the prince of the Covenant of Daniel 11:22 is the[ he] of Daniel 9:27!) That stops the daily sacrifice in Daniel 11 after verse 21 and in Daniel 8 .and does the( abomination of desolation) Daniel 11:31.. the first Beast of Revelation 13 ..for a time times and a half a time as it says in Daniel 7, and then Daniel 12! revelation 13:5! Revelation chapter 11 !(the time times and a half a time of Revelation 12 :14)! Revelation 12 is not you!
Love it!
Thanks!
Thank you!!
Present truth is the same in every age. A message identifying sin and the call to separate from sin. The wording of the message may differ because of the sin or situation being addressed but the nature is constant.
The saddest part of this discourse is that Mr. Thunder was a SDA pastor who fell away to the demons of heresy 😳 . Much prayer
That is both sad and dangerous, these are the very foes that we will face. (The fallen away)pray for him in hope he has not slighted the DPIRIT OF GRACE. But we have no cause to fear. Just as HE did confound the Sanhedrin when our BLESSED LORD healed the blind man on the sabbath. HE spoke through that man and through his parents as much as they threw their son under the bus because they did not wish to be called anathema. Our DESR FRIEND THE HOLY SPIRIT will confound them again through the remnant Hallelujah unto GOD’s ALMIGHTY SON.
Amen and Amen. The truth will set us free
Yeah but what truth do you have
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv the truth of the Bible. That the Bible is the only truth of God that will lead you into all ways to God. Truth about the Commandments of God that is for eternity. Truth about the 7th Day Sabbath, truth about the state of the dead. Bible says the dead sleep and spiritualism says otherwise. The truth of baptism through immersion. The truth of the Sanctuary. The truth of the great controversy. The truth of the second coming of Jesus and the judgement. And many many more. It's all in the Bible. The truth about Ellen White as God's prophet and many lies told about her. Let's study God's Word for ourselves and not let the devil deceive us coz the devil is working extra hard. God says that the devil is a murderer from the beginning and the father of lies. Test everything from God's Holy Word in the Bible. God's blessings
I saw that the Spirit of the Lord has been dying away from the church. The servants of the Lord have trusted too much to the strength of argument, and have not had that firm reliance upon God which they should have. I saw that the mere argument of the truth will not move souls to take a stand with the remnant; for the truth is unpopular. The servants of God must have the truth in the soul. Said the angel: “They must get it warm from glory, carry it in their bosoms, and pour it out in the warmth and earnestness of the soul to those that hear.” A few that are conscientious are ready to decide from the weight of evidence; but it is impossible to move many with a mere theory of the truth. There must be a power to attend the truth, a living testimony to move them. 1T 113.2
PRESENT TRUTH: revelations, teachings from God's word that is particularly pertinent to the contemporary prophetic times. Prophecy largely determines present truth 🎉
Father forgive them because they don’t know what there are saying, and I hope it won’t be to late to repent when the last 7 plagues start falling on this world.
Once the plagues start probation has already closed. There’s a short time between the death decree for the mark going out and the plagues falling and it’s at that time that everyone left alive will have heard both sides of the argument and will have made their choice. During this time probation closes.
Present truth is the gospel
This is Present Truth: He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.(Dan 11:41)
Read Early Writings page, 63 for a outline of what is Present Truth ❤
Yes, Eph. 4:21 says “as the truth is in Jesus”. Jesus is the Truth! Jesus is the foundation and center of all of Truth! Jesus always has been, is now, and always will be THE TRUTH! Jesus is THE PRESENT TRUTH or THE TRUTH PRESENT with us from age to age from Genesis to Revelation! Lord have mercy!
The problem is your Jesus is Michael the archangel which is not the Biblical Jesus.
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd That’s an interesting thought. What scriptures do you have to solidify ur beliefs🤔. Quite frankly I’ll take both whose work are indispensable to the plan of redemption. God is good 👍🏽
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd
It's quite funny that SDA "have another Jesus" for saying Jesus is Michael but it's perfectly okay for the Reformers to say it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The book that was sealed was not the book of Revelation, but that portion of the prophecy of Daniel which related to the last days. The Scripture says, "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased" (Daniel 12:4). When the book was opened, the proclamation was made, "Time shall be no longer." (See Revelation 10:6.) The book of Daniel is now unsealed, and the revelation made by Christ to John is to come to all the inhabitants of the earth. By the increase of knowledge a people is to be prepared to stand in the latter days. {2SM 105.1}
It would be good if you kept the curser off the slides for a second or two so those screen capturing it can get a clean picture. Thanks.
JESUS SAID I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND LIFE NO ONE GOES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY ME.
That's what we SDA preach
@7thewitness it's just not the same Jesus as the Jesus of the Bible!
@@JamieElison Matthew 12
23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?
24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
Blessings, I am so sad with people who claimed that they KNOW the Bible, My people what happens at the cross is place in what is present truth, NO one can take away the crucifixion from present truth, because the cross and after the cross is present truth,, because if it wasn't for the cross there would not have been any present truth,, ( the blind will always lead the blind)
We have a Bible reference of what present truth is,,Luke 12:42-47,"food in due season "breakfast is never served at supper time. 😊🤝
I ate breakfast for dinner last night 😬. Gotta get my act together 😂
@@thebiggestpanda1 🤣🤣
The judgments of God are in the land. The wars and rumors of wars, the destruction by fire and flood, say clearly that the time of trouble, which is to increase until the end, is very near at hand. We have no time to lose. The world is stirred with the spirit of war. The prophecies of the eleventh of Daniel have almost reached their final fulfilment. {RH, November 24, 1904 par. 8}
In the first angel's message men are called upon to worship God, our Creator, who made the world and all things that are therein. They have paid homage to an institution of the Papacy, making of no effect the law of Jehovah, but there is to be an increase of knowledge on this subject. {2SM 106.1}
I love your blog
Actually is not the cross, and Jesus the center of all Bible truth?
The saddest thing on the face of the Earth is sda don't have the everlasting gospel! And never have had . because it got destroyed in in 1844 !! and they can't interpret the meaning of of Daniel 8 to this day ! nobody in SDA can interpret Daniel 8.!.. You're in the middle of Daniel 12:10!
According to you 1844 was destroyed.
According to SDA's, we are 180 years into the 1844 PROPHECY, and preparing for the return of Christ. No outside noise can alter our course!
That is because we dont need approval from the outside world to validate our beliefs!
When will you debate myles😅😅😅 or are you scared
We're terrified 😆
Yes they do place it before the truth. Thats what EGW did with the shut door message. Its crazy the mental gymanstics you do to justify it. The sources are clear God supposedly told her the shut door with no option of salvation and then she changed it.
You just quoted Ellen White to say that anything in scripture should never be used .. unless it points to the (Lamb of God taking away the sins of the world)..((( but you're Jesus does not do that )..by your own confession of faith! She says the devil does that for you!!!.... in the investigative judgment! Not Jesus Christ!.. because... if Jesus would have done it ....the sins (wouldn't exist )..to put on the devil!
PRESENT TRUTH??? THE ETERNAL GOSPEL OF REVELATION 14: 6 TO 11.
The real problem is that people does not understand that the ETERNAL/EVERLASTING GOSPEL RESULTS OR PRODUCTS IS IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE "JUSTIFICATION BY FAITH" WITHOUT WHICH WE CAN NOT LIVE UNDER GRACE AND BE SINLESS OR FREE FROM SIN AND DEVIL.
ONLY A BORN FROM GOD LIVES UNDER GRACE AND CAN LIVE AS A CHILD OF GOD; REFLECTING HIS CHARACTER: "THE LAST MESSAGE FROM GOD TO THE WORLD IS THE REVELATION OF HIS CHARACTER OF LOVE AND WHAT LOVE CAN DO TO TRANSFORM OUR LIVES TO REFLECT HIS CHARACTER"
YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS TO BE A NEWBORN CHILD OF GOD IF YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN:
RESULT?
YOU ARE NOT A SAINT AND YOU CANNOT KEEP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS:
ALL YOU SAID IS BLAH; BLAH; BLAH...IN OUR CHURCH WE "CONVINCED PEOPLE WITH THE TRUTH BUT WE DO NOT HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO BE A CHILD OF GOD:
JOHN 1: 12 & 13 SAID ; "BELIEVE IN HIS NAME"
MATTHEW 1: 21 & 23 SAID HIS NAME IS JESUS EMMANUEL: all the book of Acts said: BELIEVE HIS NAME...HIS NAME...HIS NAME.
JOHN 20: 30-31 SO: BELIEVING IN HIS NAME WE CAN HAVE LIFE!
DO SDA KNOWS HIS NAME?
GOD WITH US? WHO IS GOD? WHAT HE CAN DO?
SAVE US FROM OUR SINS??? HOW?? DO SDA KNOWS HOW JESUS SAVES US FROM OUR SINS, SINFUL NATURE, SINFUL DESIRES AND THE DEVIL POWER??
IF GOD IS WITH US; WHY WE PUT SO MUCH POWER TO SIN, THE DEVIL AND THE WORLD?
DO WE BELIEVE REALLY IN HIS NAME?? DEUTERONOMY 28: 58 HIS NAME IS: ""JEHOVA THY GOD"" HUMMM...
"JEHOVA MY GOD"???
HOW IS POSSIBLE THAT WITH SUCH GOD WE ARE A FAILURE AS SDA???
PRESENT TRUTH THEN AS SAID IN REVELATION 14: 7 IS TO KNOW AND WORSHIP OUR GOD, OUR CREATOR, OUR SAVIOR.
Myles, it seem you don't really know your argument. Honestly, you make yourself look foolish with the devil. You will not stand against the truth in the Word of God. You don't know God of the Seventh day Sabbath in the Bible.
Ellen says he's the devil in the investigative judgment!
IN MY OPINION YOU CANNOT PRESENT PRESENT TRUTH ABOVE THE CROSS: IT IS IMPOSSIBLE; YOU CANNOT DIVIDE TRUTH IN DOCTRINES OR TOPICS; BECAUSE WHOLE TRUTH IS LIKE A PUZZLE, ONLY WHEN ALL ARE PROPERLY PUT TOGETHER YOU CAN SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE: LETS ANALIZE:
In Jesus time present truth was that He was the Messiah: the lamb of God.
After He resurrected present truth was that the Church was the new Israel spiritual and people could be part of that chosen people by Jesús, Jesus still was the center of the present truth, during persecution Jesus was the focus and they preferred to die than to deny Him, He was the hope of life eternal.
During the Middle ages the present truth was that the Truth was in the Bible and that Bible said only Jesus could save and forgive sins.
THERE IS NOT PRESENT TRUTH THAT DO NOT HAVE JESUS IN ITS CENTER; and a "present truth without Jesus is worth nothing, because the idea of any present truth is to point to Jesus from another circunstance or situation
RIGHT NOW SOON WILL BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST OR THE SEAL OF GOD, BUT THE CENTER IS ALWAYS JESUS: TO BE SEALED YOU NEED JESUS IN YOUR HEART AND UNDERSTANDING.
ANY PRESENT TRUTH IS TAKING YOU TO JESUS, BUT THE PRESENT TRUTH IS VALUABLE TO KNOW THE ACTUAL PROPHETIC SITUATION OF THE TIME; TO ESCAPE OR ACT ACCORDINGLY.
EXAMPLE: Our current present truth is that we need to get out of cities before is too late, but the center reason is not to lose our connection with Jesus and save our children from the corruption; so they can freely love & serve Jesus.
The sanctuary in Daniel 814 is the sanctuary in Daniel 11 it's got nothing to do with heaven if you would have done what Jesus told you and Matthew 2415 you wouldn't be an SDA and you wouldn't have videos that you sit there and lie about what's going on in heaven
The Sanctuary blue print is in Heaven. It was shown to Moses on the Mount when God told him to build a sanctuary on earth. He built the earthly Sanctuary in uniform to what he saw in the HEAVENLY sanctuary. Then in Revelation, John also in his vision saw the heavenly sanctuary, the replica of what Moses saw back in the wilderness. Daniel was referring to the heavenly sanctuary and the prophecy of the 2300 years when the heavenly sanctuary will be cleansed. The study of the sanctuary points us directly to our salvation plan. The sacrificial process already fulfilled on the cross. The cleansing of the sanctuary that Christ is presently doing in the heavenly sanctuary since end of the 2300 years (1844), Bible tells us that we are in the hour of judgment and what is yet to be fulfilled is Jesus coming back and finally the author of sin Satan will be destroyed. He is the scapegoat that eventually will take up all the sins of this world and be destroyed forever. This is the amazing truth about the sanctuary. Study it, no it. God's Word is truth and the truth will set you free
@@delyntadeb3260 you can't get to the fall of 1844 to make it happen with 2,300.[ the math will not let you do it] your blaspheming against the Holy Spirit saying Jesus Christ did not do it.. and the devil did!!!( the second goat) Leviticus 16:10. that's your confession of faith! there is no atonement going on in any sanctuary in heaven !!! the sanctuary in Daniel 8. is not even been built yet!( it's not about salvation!)
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tvNot only are you very deluded and lying, but you offer exactly ZERO Scriptures to defend your opinions.
Do tell what YOU think is happening in the heavenly sanctuary right now.
Just do the math equation and you're going to say something different... The interpretation of Daniel 8. it's all written in my other post .but you're too( naive )to understand that !@@jeanclaude7018
READ LEVITICUS 16 VERSE BY VERSE: THE SANCTURARY IS A DESPICTION/ EARTHLY ILUSTRATION OF THE COMPLETE PLAN OF SALVATION OR THE MISSION OF JESUSCHRIST, SO HIS PEOPLE COULD UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF ANIMAL SACRIFICES; priesthood and the paper of the HIGH PRIEST: EVERY CEREMONY, EVERY FURNITURE REPRESENT A PHASE/STAGE OF THE MISSION OF JESUS; the problem is man sinfullness and mortality: Jesus is God; the earthly sanctuary was in human time and limitations; and the SHADOW OF THINGS TO COME: but if we see what caused the shadow we found out JESUS; Jesus caused the shadow in the prophetic ilustration of the Sanctuary: but now the shadow is not more: we are dealing with the shadow maker: Jesus and the HEAVENLY SANCTUARY OR TEMPLE IN HEAVENS; JOHN SAW ALL REVELATION DEVELOPMENT IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD AMONG THE REAL FURNITURE AND INSTEAD THE SHEKINAH WE SEE GOD'S THRONE; IN REVELATION 11 WE SEE THE ARK OF THE TESTIMONY OR THE TABLES OF STONE OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.
Later in Revelation 15 & 16 the Bible tell us that the SEVEN PLAGUES ANGELS CAME OUT THAT TEMPLE WHERE THE ARK OR FURNITURE THAT HOLDS INSIDE THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, ONLY THE VIOLATION OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ARE SIN AND SIN CAUSES DEATH OR PUNISHMENT: THE 7 PLAGUES.
WHAT ARE THE SINS PUNISHED? WORSHIPPING OTHER "GOD" : IDOLATRY, THAN GOD; MURDERERS OF THE SAINTS; WORSHIPPING THE SUN, SO NOW THE "SUN" BURN THEM;
LATER THERE IS A DIRECT PLAGUE OVER WHO CALLED THEMSELVES GOD'S REPRESENTATIVE AND TRUE CHURCH, NOW ALL THE WORLD WILL SEE IT WAS NOT TRUE AND GOD IS PUNISHING THEM.
THE 6TH ANGEL DRIED THE EUFRATES RIVER; this is symbolic: the Antichrist is the king of Babylon, and los his kingdom when the river Eufrates was deviate from his path leaving the river bed dry to enter CYRUS ARMIES AND TOOK THE CITY OF BABYLON; WATER IN PROPHECY MEANS PEOPLE, NATIONS, MULTITUDES; SO THE SUPPORT FOR THE BEAST AFTER THE PEOPLE SAW THEY WERE PUNISHED BY GOD WITH THE PLAGUE, THE SUPPORT "DRIED UP" : THE PEOPLE EVEN TURNED AGAINST THEM -SAID THE PROPHECY- Now the second coming is ready to come, but under the beast they: human will be reunited to fight back a ALIEN INVASION, THEY WILL SAID ALL WERE AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL WAR WITH ALIENS AND THEY WILL PREPARE TO ATTACK THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS.
DEMONS PREPARE TO WAR AGAINST GOD WITH HUMANS & DEMONS, SO GOD SEND HAIL TO HURT EVEN DEMONS; TO AVOID CONFRONTATION WHEN HE RESURRECTS HIS PEOPLE AND RESCUE THE ALIVE ONES. DEMONS ARE PARALIZED AND LATER IMPRISONNED HERE ON A PLANET RETURNED TO SUCH STATE OF DESOLATION AS IT WAS BEFORE GOD CREATED LIFE ON EAT, BUT BEFORE THE BIRDS WILL HAVE A GRAND SUPPER BEFORE THEY DIE FOR 1000 YEARS.
FOR 1000 YEARS THE EARTH WILL REST ITS SABBATH.
THE SAVED WILL BE IN HEAVENS HAVING THE DINNER AND RECEIVING THEIR CROWNS AND INHERITANCE.
ALSO WE WILL COLLABORATE WITH JUDGING AND SENTENCING THEM IN JUSTICE: THE FALLEN ANGELS AND THE LOST; AND WE WILL CRY FOR THE LOST ONES WE LOVED BUT DID NOT MADE IT. WE WILL SEE WHY AND WE WILL SEE GOD IS JUST AND FAIR, AFTER THE 1000 YEARS THE NEW JERUSALEM WILL COME TO EARTH, SINNERS WILL RESURRECT TO FACE FINAL JUDGMENT OF SENTENCE AND GOD WILL BURN THEM ALL TO ASHES, WE WILL CRY; BUT THEY CHOSE THER FATE; GOD WILL CONSOLE US: THEY DID NOT SUFFER ANYMORE, THEY ARE ASHES AS ALSO THE FALLEN ANGELS: ON THOSE ASHES ON A PURIFIED EARTH GOD WILL RECREATE A NEW GIGANTIC GARDEN OF EDEN AND THE SEA WILL BE NO MORE AND OUR PETS AND ANIMALS WHO WAITED ALSO THE REDEMPTION WILL POPULATE THE EARTH IN PEACE AND ALL WILL BE VEGANS.
So she says the real part of the truth is to lift up the cross !!!but then if the second goat is the sin bear ![there would not dare be any sins on the cross!] You keep talking about topics! but you don't have Jesus!
The second goat isn't the sacrifice. Jesus died only once. Satan who is Azazel (Google the meaning of Azazel - it isn't my King of Kings Jesus Christ) the scape goat deserves all sin on him as the author of sin to eventually take on and be destroyed forever
@@delyntadeb3260I don't need to Google it I read the Bible it says it's a( location)
why don't you read the Bible?? you can't have sins( in )Jesus Christ 1 Peter 2:24 ((the first goat does not bear any sin)!!! so what you're saying is( that Jesus on the cross is the devi!l)!!!!
@@delyntadeb3260 why are there sins in Jesus Christ 1 Peter 2:24
SISTER: YOU ARE VERY CONFUSED IN YOUR THINKING; Jesus is the sin bearer to pay the debt: Isaiah 53 is a better explanation for you, Jesus is not a sinner, for that reason he can paid ours, He owed nothing, you cannot die for another if you deserve to die also. He was innocent and also He can resurrect; we died with him and also resurrect with him free from our sinful nature as a newbor of God with power to live and act as a child of God: John 1: 12 & 13. Read my above comment; please! Thanks!
@@rositaalonzo6909
Study the role of the "High Priest" of the Old Testament, and his role within the Sanctuary.
Then you will understand why Christ became our "High Priest" in the New Testament, and what he is accomplishing in the heavenly Sanctuary.
Once you have this understanding, EVERYTHING else will be clear to you. You are responsible for yourself to find the Truth, and then to follow the Truth!