My New Communion Views 🍷 🍞 Francis Chan Explains The Eucharist
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Francis Chan is an American Protestant author, teacher, and preacher. He joins The Remnant Radio to discuss the sacrament of communion and his journey in being challenged in his views of the Eucharist.
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My gosh! I felt the presence of the Spirit during the conversation! Bring the table back to the Protestant Church Lord! Amen
The Lord is doing it but you are refusing. Join His Church that is the Catholic Church, there is no other way.
As a child baptized catholic who left in my late teens and wandered in the wilderness of Protestantism for 20 years and returned to the Catholic Church a year ago. Just come home man. It’s time for one whole body of Christ. Not this splintered confusion. There won’t be perfection and total agreement until Jesus returns. But at least the family can be back together!
@@lefooo not RCC: Protestants are in the Catholic ( Universal) church.
Where was his presence before the conversation, had he left?
@@mattcaron4043 we're you baptized or saved?
Christian brothers and sisters, as a Catholic, I am praying and longing to break bread with all of you. I don't have any expectation of what that would look like, but praying our shephard will help lead us. Love you all so very much and praying for all of us.
Simple find a Protestant Church that observe Eucharist
Francis put into words exactly what I have been wrestling with for half a year now. Thank you so much for this. What a blessing! Praise God!
Francis Chan should go on Pints with Aquinas!
It appears Francis Chan is now bowing to the "host." He will probably join the demonic idolatrous guys on Pints with Aquinas sometime in the future and worship the man-made bread in the monstrance while reciting the Rosary, the other idolatrous ritual Catholics adore.
"Worship of the Eucharist...the cult of adoration" = IDOLATRY! (Catechism 1378)
Agreed
Go go go! And the counsel of Trent podcast!
Absolutely!😊
As a Roman Catholic we are to pray for the unity of the body of Christ. God bless.
As a Catholic we are to understand that the unity of the body of Christ was never lost. God bless.
what sect do you belong to?
I have been in the catholic church for 7 years now .. now i see the beauty of it more 🙏🙏
My most holy & profound Communion was in a little Episcopal church at the edge of my college campus. I had felt led to attend there even though I hadn't been to church for years, & had never even been in a church of that denomination. I know it was the Holy Spirit that drew me. Although I had believed in the power of the death, burial & resurrection as a teen, I had wandered far & was living a life of self-fulfilling pleasure. It was at that service during Communion that Jesus invaded my life again & I saw the emptiness of my life. When I took Communion that Sunday, unkowingly when I want supposed to, my heart changed radically. I saw myself for who I was, & I saw Jesus for who He was. And my life has never been the same! This is my reason for believing that the table of the Lord is an open one. After all, He sent his servants out to seek the lost to come to his banquet when those who "knew" him refused to come & participate.
I am a Lutheran speaking here. I read a lot of Francis’s writings in highschool and he really taught me to engage with and dive into the scriptures. It’s so awesome to see him embrace that God comes to man through Word and Sacrament.
Browse Lutheran Dr.Taylor Marshall and Protestant Dr. Scott Hahn.
@@MichElle-zc9tu I believe both Taylor Marshall and Scott Hahn are Catholics.
Adoration after communion in the Catholic Church is so incredible l, all they do is silently mediate on the beauty and gift of Jesus, they just adore him by meditating on the Eucharist!
Honest question, I visited my friend's Catholic Church and only the priest drank Jesus' blood. Why not the whole congregation?
@@TheNarrowPath40 I agree, I can’t take communion cause I’m not catholic so I can’t answer that but fair to ask!
I came from an AG church where the pastor called everyone to examine themselves and gave time for repentence prior to taking communion. He took it seriously and it has stuck with me through the years.
So did I, and we were always told to examine ourselves prior to partaking of communion.
That's interesting, and a good idea, in fact, St. Paul commands it.
I think that "examine themselves" for time of repentence is a gross misunderstanding of "examine yourself"...I believe it was a recent invention. I'm charismatic Anglican, who presently attends an AoG and that is never part of it. The confession of sin comes prior in the service. The examining yourself is to know Christ died for you, "the blood of Christ keep you in eternal life" is said as you receive the bread and wine.
@@Liminalplace1 Brother Paul, you have a very valid point, but I don't think it comes in the right spirit. St. Paul is pretty clear--examine yourself to see if you be in the faith. That is almost certainly his point as he says, "not discerning the Lord's body," here body carrying the dual meaning of the literal death of the Son of Man AND his church.
However, we should point out, more toward the topic at hand, that Paul seems to be affirming some kind of real presence.
And then we have the old problem of conflating "repentance" and "contrition," two related but somewhat different ideas that the following scripture really irons out well:
"For godly sorrow (contrition) brings about a repentance (a change of heart and mind) not to be repented of."
@@duncescotus2342 rather than elaborate on my point I'd just point out a few points in regard to your references. The context of Pauls "examine yourself in 2 Cor 13:5 isn't communion and it's also whether you are "in the faith" not in sin etc. Just different context.
Also 2 Cor 7:10 passage on "godly sorrow leads to repentence"is horizontal repentance towards Paul as their apostle. Horizontal Reconciliation if you like. .
"Discerning the body" 1 Cor 11v 29 seems to be an abbreviation for "the body and blood of the Lord from v 27. How that connection is made is another matter
Generally on "repentance" towards God, I think Luther nailed it down. It's contrition for original sin..not so much specific sins which I think you mean by examining oneself prior to taking Communion.
Communion is a intimate symbolic expression of gratitude for Jesus's sacrifice and love for us. I often cry while partaking in this weekly sacrament at my non denominal Church but have absolutely no reservation to partake in that ritual anywhere anytime. It's Ground Zero in my love appreciation gratitude thanks and relationship with my Lord and Savior the Christ Jesus.
The first thing we do at every service at our church is communion. There's never any Running Out of Time issue
I have visited churches in rural indonesia and China during my travels. On communion sunday, everyone including teens would come to church in suit and tie. Imagine travelling for hours on foot and bus in blistering heat of day just to honor the communion.
I was baptized in the Orthodox Church three days ago and was finally able to participate in the Holy Communion this morning. I am so happy
I hope you have not been re-baptized - Nicene Creed - We believe in one baptism for the giveness of sins.
Glory to Jesus Christ! Welcome home!!
@@lpcruz5661 there is only one baptism, and that is an Orthodox one.
@@NoeticInsight Baptism does not belong to a group, it belongs to Christ. Re-baptism is not catholic, nor orthodox. In fact, it is sectarian.
Welcome home! ☦️
As a Lutheran, all I can say is that I am weeping tears of joy inside and praising God!
Good times. I feel you!
Same!!! Watch Infant Baptism is next for Francis!
@@christianb164 That's going to be much tougher. The waywardness of the Anabaptists, and their many more obvious heretical tendencies caused all--Catholic, Lutheran, and Reformed--to reject their most salient characteristic, which was believer's baptism, a practice which likely goes back to the early church. This practice is now cemented in Evangelical tradition.
Loved coming across your comment.
The Augburg Confession was also when the "Evangelical" church was one, unified. So on Chan's logical it ought to be accepted also. As an Anglican I'd concur
Stunned!
Leaving public ministry has brought me to the same conclusion. I went to churches and became lonely for Jesus. He was worshiped in song but then it became something else. It became about the charism of the speaker. Which was frankly so tepid.
I was drawn to focus upon the table. The table of the LORD. We need the revelation of Jesus alone. He gives himself to us at the table.
Amen!!!
Such a late reply to this... But I get this!! The loneliness for Jesus.... Ah! Thank you for giving me some words.
Praise the Lord! I'm praying for the unity of all Christians. As a former Catholic, I believe with centurion faith in the Eucharist; that when I receive the wafer and cup I am remembering what Jesus did for me when He gave up His body and blood that I may live with and for Him for all eternity. It would be nice if the Catholic Church didn't exclude me because I no longer believe much of the rest of the dogma but, it's not necessary. I pray each time I receive and meditate on what Jesus did for me. I thank Him and ask Him to be in me as He desires; His flesh in my flesh, His blood in my blood. Jesus will meet us each at our level and our faith. Last September Jesus rescued me from a dark place and I was baptized and born again in November. I pray that our Catholic brothers and sisters will embrace the necessity of being born again. It's also a command from Jesus and the church never taught me about that. Many Catholics do not have the peace and security of knowing the Lord will put a new spirit in them and send the Holy Spirit to dwell in them forever. They stay stuck in a fear based religion that keeps them oppressed. I believe in the times we are in that the Lord wants to break these chains and divisions. Hallelujah!
Oh, boy, Francis Chan is expressing Catholicity in what he discovered about the Eucharist, without even knowing it!
Oh, boy...❤🎉😊
Oh, he knows it (now).
@@TroyNiemeier, well, then, good! He finds the truth. Finally.
He is Orthodox in Spirit
Thus the push back. We pray that many people think deeply about Catholicism
@@seanchaney3086, why do you think so?
Can you pls explain?
Thanks.
Such a great dialogue. I so appreciate Francis Chan and his humble, gracious heart. I was raised Catholic, but in my mid 20 started moving in evangelical circles because of my desire to understand scripture. Although I no longer attended the Catholic Church, there were aspects (traditions) of Catholicism that I missed such as the sacraments and the reverence which very much has to do with the Eucharist. About 5 years ago I came back to the Catholic Church. I figure that I can listen to great sermons or worship music anytime, but I can only receive the Eucharist in community. There are things that I’m still wrestling through (there probably always will be), but I feel that I am where I need to be.
Here’s a very important thing to understand… Hebrew 10:14. As a former Catholic, I thought I had to keep on working. However, the blood of Christ covers all my sin - past, present, and future. Teelestai - paid in full!
@@randywhitely6070 great Protestants become Catholic; poorly catechized Catholics become Protestant. Research the early fathers of the Church such as Sts. Iranaeus, Justin Martyr and Augustine. Come home to Rome. We need all the remnant to kick out the heretics and apostates out of the Vatican and cleanse the Church Christ founded.
@randywhitely6070
Yeah, your sins were paid for in full but you don't have insurance if you continue to sin. For the soul that sinnet shall die. And you must work out your salvation with fear and trembling.
@Pius Ochigbo Christian the lang language is work out (santification) not work for (justification) read the whole Hebrews to understand the whole context.
You should explore Orthodoxy
Francis described precisely why I was received into The Eastern Orthodox Church after 30 years as an evangelical
I really appreciate this because it's defining a mystery without taking an extreme view and still calling it what it is. It is a mystery, yet understanding its foundational implications.
WOW!!! Such a great conversation!! This was sooo good!🙌🙌💜
I use to search Francis Chan's sermons as a teenager regularly, such a great man. In 2020 I was received into the Catholic Church by the grace of God because of Church history. I feel connected to all the Christian martyrs of a christian history who died in communion with the apostolic Church and the religion of my ancestors. I pray for Francis Chan and more protestants to be in communion with the Church.
Sadly you didn't study all of Church history
I too studied church history at Liberty University, a Protestant evangelical college, and was led by the Holy Spirit to the Catholic Church.
@@dallasbrat81what are you talking about? You are learning in an echo chamber if you don’t see the Catholic Church in church history.
@@lesliejamieson6781 haha yes the Catholic Church did some good in Western Civilization but now it’s a failure . Why do only 30% of Catholics go to mass regularly and why do over 50% of Catholics love abortion and want gay marriage in Catholic Churches. Pew Research 2024
@@lesliejamieson6781 yes I see the good and bad . I see wicked bishops and popes . I also see good ones nothing special
This very subject has been heavy on my heart. Perfect timing!
Saint Ignatius of Antioch defined the Eucharist as the real body of Christ way back in the first century…and only the Catholic Church still teaches this
I was raised non denominational, and I’m a recent Catholic convert. Francis Chan is discovering the Truth of the Catholic Church and he doesn’t even realize it! The truth of the Church and its sacraments, its authority on moral and religious issues. The truth of scripture and tradition. The truth of The Magisterium which is the teaching office of the church. The truth that the Catholic Church is the one true church that was founded by Jesus two thousand years ago. The truth that it is an institution that is free from error because it is lead by the Holy Spirit. At the end of the day, either all this is true of the Catholic Church or it’s not.
Catholic here--awesome conversation!
I became a Catholic about 6 years ago, in part because of views on communion. It would be great if Remnant had some Catholics on, especially some charismatic Catholics. God is doing great things in bringing unity in the church!
Yes! Scott Hahn, Trent Horn, Tim Staples, Jimmy Akin , Brant Pitre , Steve Ray, many of who are converts from Protestantism to Catholicism and are very much evangelical Catholics, would be great guests.
Agreed! The list goes on! Dr. Mary Healy, Dr. Ralph Martin, Peter Herbeck, Father Ed Fride, Bishop Peter Smith, Neal Lozano, Alicia Hartle, and more!
Christs church is already united. Outsiders (Mormons, JW, Catholics etc.) Are not and never will be a part of Christs church because they invent a Christ that does not exist, they deny foundational teachings of Christ and yet ask for unity? If you dont know what I'm talking about youre part of the problem. Read Gods Word and it will be clear
Catholic doctrine teaches a different Gospel than the Bible. If Remnant wants to be taken serious they should say clear of false doctrines.
@@TS-ee7jxNo they don’t. The New Testament is the same with Catholic bibles and Protestant.
the one Sacrament that helps you to prepare for the Lords Supper is CONFESSION. love this talk
Amen I’m doing rcia starting soon and I know bf or sure I want to go to confession before the Eucharist
Yes! After baptism and followed by confirmation. All of the sacraments are important. May God continue to bless Francis on his journey.
Sounds Catholic and religious …it seems faith is the most important thing …sin (missing the mark) is not doing in faith but doing religiously.
Jesus said do in memory of me …its not about making a religion out of His body and blood …the sacrifice of mass as catholics say. Christ followers were
missing the mark the first 1000 years just as they were when Paul admonished them.
@@jasminestreet2418Jesus said about the consecrated host and wine that this IS my body and this IS my blood! He said in John 6 that if you don’t eat the flesh of the son of man and if you don’t drink the blood of the son of man, you will have no life in you! How much more literal can you get. When Jesus said to do this in memory of me, that’s Jewish language of sacrificial re-presentation - the Eucharist is the messianic fulfilment of the Passover which is a sacrifice!
The amazing thing is that I was raised with this belief of communion from my father who was a lutheran pastor. I go to a Baptist church now. I've always held many of the things we do as sacred because the Bible has always said it. It just is refreshing to see a strong pastor like Francis to see these aspects of the word and of the sacraments.......His passion is so contagious on this.
This interview is fantastic! Francis does an incredible job explaining and putting to words what I was wrestling with and repenting of and experiencing communion in a way that truly connects us to Jesus and the church. Now when I talk to people about the importance of communion I have scriptures AND a video interview to send to help people work out their own conclusions! Thank you!
The only thing I’m questioning about the Eucharist “ushering in the presence of Christ” is that Christ already dwells in me, therefore his presence is constant. If you say the Eucharist ushers in his presence you’re essentially saying that his presence is absent apart from it. How does this make biblical sense? Doesn’t Christ dwell within us? Aren’t we continually in his presence? How can the body EVER be separated from the head??
Amen!
Josh what a good point at 24 minutes about experiencing coming thru correct understanding. Whether that be worship, the word, or communion.
I love you guys! Thank you!!! So encourage to start studying on it!!!! Love love love it! Lord bless you guys
“You can’t look me in the eyes and tell me God wants us at 30 separate tables.”
Me, a Catholic: Exactly!
Glad for this conversation. Thank you so much! This is something that has always been true of my "teaching" whenever the subject comes up. I would just like to add....it's not just, "are there any needs here we're not taking care of," but also please don't miss the relational aspect of, "are you good with your brother?" "Is there anything standing in the way of your relationship with this body or even your family members. You need to get that right first." I have watched in horror at my past church because the admonition was, "Is there anything between you and Lord that you need to repent of? If so, take a moment with God before you partake." We make it all about the individual rather than seeing the relational aspect with the body and our families. It is serious business and it makes me very sad when others fail to see this seriousness. We should be admonished to live out our Christian lives relationally with one another and God differently so that at any moment we can partake of the Lord's table. There have been times when I will not partake because I have had relational business to take care. When we eat and drink we eat and drink judgment to ourselves.
Just love Francis Chans heart such a genuine person
I read this in the Bible and did it as a child, began to read the Bible and had fear of the Lord. Stopped reading when I got to the difficult chapters of numbers and Leviticus. It was hard to understand, but in awe with the first books.
God is still with me, although I walked away, he brought me back. 💖✝️
You have got to give The Bible In a Year podcast with Father Mike Schmitz a try! He gives a lot of context to help with understanding the old testament
Wow, what a powerful word! Immediately after watching I read 1 Cor. 10-11 praying that the Spirit would speak, and wow He spoke! This is the most excited I’ve ever been for church tomorrow to fellowship directly with Christ!
This was so good…I’ve been in the “it’s just a symbol” type of environment, but about every time I take communion, I weep. I feel the presence of the Holy Spirit and I know it is something so sacred and so holy.
Francis Chann, i know that you WILL become a Catholic!!! You are on the cusp...and i know Jesus will bring you home according to His Divine Will and through the promptings of the Holy Spirit. Amen
18 June 2023
@@isabelguilherme6194amen to that!
So wonderful. Come to a Catholic Church and witness the consecration of the True Presence of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ ! And one day, God willing, you can partake when you have been received into the Church. I will pray for you :-)
This is something I also learned. As a kid living with several family members and brought to different churches I always saw communion as a symbol. But I never even saw it be done in churches except in the Roman Catholic Church or the Eastern Orthodox Church. This year I decided to get closer to God and actually had that born again experience. It’s so beautiful, and I attend a Nondenominational Church where we take communion once a month. At first it felt odd, because I wasnt used of this. But when I read it in scripture and historically I realized how communion can really be real presence. Now I understand that this was always believed. Now when I take communion I actually take it very serious now. And feel that presence. And I love that brothers and sisters in Christ take part of this together. Although I believe in real presence, it doesn’t necessarily means that you have to believe in transubstantiation which is what Roman Catholicism made a dogma and if you don’t believe it you are Anathema. I’m not saying it’s bad to believe it, the early Church had different views of real presence but never made it a dogma to believe one view and condemn the rest. I still love my Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox brothers and sisters in Christ. We have different views but still believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, God the Father, and our Helper the Holy Spirit.
@@isabelguilherme6194I think better then that would be if he helped to build the bridge that reunites protestant with Catholic. The division healed and the two branches reconnected 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks guys for this interview with Francis concerning the Eucharist. I fell away from church for many years and a little over 3 years ago came back to Christ. I was in no hurry to repeat past mistakes and began reading early church writings and the history of the church. I began to see and understand just what Communion was in the Eucharist. It's hard to explain but I wanted Communion so bad, and knew I needed it. This led me to the Catholic Church. There's alot I don't understand or even except at the moment but the honor and respect for Holy Communion .... well I just have never found that in other denominations. ( I'm not saying it's not there and I haven't went searching it out.)
If I may I'd like to say something as I've read a few comments on infant Baptism. If your a believer baptise your children. I thank my parents they baptized me as a child. I'm a sinner guys. I left the church and Jesus and made a mess of things. And out of the blue one day, the Holy Spirit spoke in me, " it's time to come home." Thank you Lord Jesus, and thank you mom and dad.
Anyhows, don't put it off parents. Get your children in the Holy Family of believers. Sometimes our best efforts fail. But God's grace never fails.
Peace and Love in Jesus
Stay Catholic... Read the bible old and new testament. Read early fathers and eventually you will find the CATHOLIC APOSTALIC ORTHODOX CHURCH is the first church. I mean PROTESTANT didnt even exist till 500 years give or take. Check out STEVE RAY. JIMMY ATKINS.. MICHAEL LOFTON. ALL EX PROTESTANT.. 🙏🏼🕊️👌🏼🙌🏼 GOD BLESS YOU...
Praise God! 🙏
Cannot love your comment more! Welcome home! Every Catholic, even cradle Catholics like us, have beautifully varied journeys to loving, understanding (and thanking God for) the gift of our faith which I didn’t choose in infant baptism. Humbled that God chose us before we chose Him!
Thanks be to God that you are back home. I was away from the Church too at some point in my life but thankful that God is always ready to accept me in all my inequities
Dude how are you not an Orthodox Christian yet Francis? Beautiful video.
Great episode!! 2 things I find in most Protestants I come in contact with is their lack of knowledge of the beliefs of the early church and their knowledge of typology of old and New Testament figures and events.
I would recommend you interview
DR BRANT PITRE. He wrote a book called the Jewish roots of the Eucharist. God bless you all.
Perhaps most Protestants aren’t familiar with what the early church fathers believed, but then what have Catholics and orthodox done to the beliefs of polycarp, Augustine, Irenaeus? Displayed utter disdain for their theology on the doctrine of substitutionary atonement, salvation, election, etc.
Because the early church worship saints and Mary therefore committing heretics teachings.
👍🏻
@@MrLegionofmanSo you’re calling the Apostles and their direct successors heretics?! Goodness! Please read the early fathers with an open mind without your Protestant assumptions, and then read Dr Scott Hahn and Dr Brant Pitre, that should change your mind.
This is a lie from the PIT of hell, God bless you @@MrLegionofman
Francis Chan, I pray you meet and have a conversation with Scott Hahn. You will learn much from each other.❤
Hi Francis! I remember when you were our high school intern at Quail Lakes Baptist. I recently switched to Lutheran, partly because of sacrament vs. ordinance being taught and it not being taken as seriously as I believed it should be.
Ty so much for spreading this message, & emphasizing the importance of the Eucharist, this is why I have continued to remain Catholic, the reverence given to the Eucharist, & the effects on your life by receiving communion regularly... I just can't even begin to explain what it has done for me...
God says idolaters will be cast into the lake of fire. This is all demonic Catholicism. No one can be saved by a false Catholic Jesus, only the Jesus Christ of the Bible from cover to cover, with no additions or subtractions.
@Val Lee Well I guess God used the demonic Eucharistic to save my husband's life then, bcz this is exactly what happened. He lost his life & it was returned & he was completely healed after placing it in his mouth while dying... there was literally a 0% chance of this happening. This is why I became Catholic, thats where God led me. Do some research on all the Eucharistic miracles that have happened. I personally, even as a Catholic, do not worship the Eucharistic as God, so I don't involve myself with idolatry. Let God judge others, you don't need to be the one doing it. God bless you
@@ValLeeWeblog according to your tradition, the Bible has only 66 books. If you intend to follow your own advice, you’ve got some catching up to do.
@@ValLeeWeblog love, love, love that you love the New Testament --written, compiled and canonized by the Catholic Church!❤
@@cherylwaclawczyk9098 It was written by those who exposed the Catholic Church, exposing Idolaters go to the lake of fire. Catholics and other false religions do not resemble true born-again Christians in any sense. True born-again Christians do not worship idols or Mary dollies or sing to her. Their pagan prayers are prayed to “Our Lady,” their false Mary. They believe her to be “The spouse of the Holy Spirit,” whereby, their false Jesus was created. Nor do true Christians adhere to other so-called saints, pray on beads, etc. They do not believe in Catholic mystics and praying to the bones of mystics.
True Christian believers know Mary was kept a virgin up till the time of Christ's birth; then she, as a wife, had other children, sons and daughters with Joseph, and their sons' names are listed in the Bible. She too had to receive Christ as her Savior to be saved, not superior to any other sinner. However, Christians recognize she revealed exceptional faith and obedience before God. Her cousin, Elizabeth, also exhibited exceptional faith and godliness. Joseph did too, he being a just man and one who obeyed all God commanded of him in the protection of Jesus Christ, God the Son, as his adoptive son.
The Bible declares idolaters (those who bow before idols, pray before them, touching beads, etc.) go to the lake of fire. Idolatry has no place in true Christianity. Revelation 21:8-“But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
God eventually will judge-“The LORD has issued a command concerning you: "Your name will no longer be perpetuated. I will cut off idol and image from the house of your gods. I will prepare your grave, for you are contemptible."
(Nahum 1: 14)
Mary, the true Mary of the Bible was not a fertility goddess and called God her Savior. You have to be a sinner to need a Savior. Christ condemned Catholicism when people attempted to uplift Mary when He was on the earth. He would not allow it when people tried to bless her, he said, on the contrary, blessed are those who abide in Christ’s commandments.
Luke 11:27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” 28 But He said, “On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
Pointing to his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother." (Matthew chapter 12, verses 49 and 50)
"Who are my mother and my brothers?" he asked. Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, "Here are my mother and my brothers! Whoever does God's will is my brother and sister and mother." (Mark chapter 3, verses 33-35)
Now Jesus' mother and brothers came to see him, but they were not able to get near him because of the crowd. Someone told him, "Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to see you." He replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice." (Luke chapter 8, verses 19-21)
True Christians believe in receiving Christ Jesus, the Christ of the Bible from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21, with no additions or subtractions, as their personal Savior. They do not believe in salvation by works. The Holy Spirit indwells true believers, equipping them to live godly in Christ Jesus. Jesus Christ died for every person so anyone can be saved from their sins who call upon Him.
Christians are also to come and be separate from the unsaved and they are to have no fellowship with the children of satan. Catholics are the children of satan as those who worship idols, teach salvation by works and mock the Bible and its holy truths. Christians are not to fellowship with anyone who teaches false doctrines and this is viewed throughout the Bible, including 2 Peter, Galatians, Deuteronomy 13, etc.
A friend of mine was once Catholic and in her church they had a yearly ritual where they had an idol of Jesus that they laid down and made every one would kiss this idols’ feet. She performed this also before becoming a born again Christian.
Albert Einstein on The Catholic Church “Only The Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in The Church before but now I feel a great affection and admiration because The Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly” -Wishing all Catholics a very blessed, joyful and peaceful CHRISTmas and may the Holy Family continue to be our role model. Wishing every Protestant a blessed, joyful and peaceful Christmas🙏🏻🌟
I love to see his excitement!! You can tell learning has brought him even closer to God! I can relate!
Always appreciate Francis’ zeal and passion for Jesus! This was a great discussion and really has me thinking and digging into the Scriptures even more! One of my favorite points that I’d never considered…that the Spirit reveals the truth of Scriptures to the Body! So it’s not about a pastor locked in an office with logos software, but rather, it’s a gathering of believers digging in together, listening to the Spirit together, coming into agreement together. The Lord wants us to be dependent upon one another. This prevents pastor idolatry and celebrity pastors, too, I think.
I whole heartedly agree with you. Too, too much in our congregational worship revolves around pastor so and so. Appreciate your reflection on this conversation.
@@robrobinson9281The only thing I’m questioning about the Eucharist “ushering in the presence of Christ” is that Christ already dwells in me, therefore his presence is constant. If you say the Eucharist ushers in his presence you’re essentially saying that his presence is absent apart from it. How does this make biblical sense? Doesn’t Christ dwell within us? Aren’t we continually in his presence? How can the body EVER be separated from the head??
One of the best quotes "To be deep in history, is to cease being Protestant"
Francis journey sounds just like mine. I was a Bible college student in the ministry and then I found eastern orthodoxy. This year I was baptized and received in the church. I’m so glad that God has let me to the ancient Faith and pray that fat Francis will find his path here soon
Pray for me please. I'm seeking Orthodoxy. God bless.☦🙏
Do pray for Francis. He has been struggling with himself for a long time, trying to convince himself from the outside looking in.
I am from an Oriental Orthodox background which is very close to Eastern Orthodoxy. And I have been studying the Bible, walking according to the Word and watching various denominations around the world especially Orthodoxy for many decades I can say for sure you are departing from truth as the Lord prophesied. We are living in a post truth era and people depart from truth very fast.
What about just being grafted into the vine. Becoming a part of Israel. Understanding that, walking in the truth and blessing thereof. And walking in truth.
Awesome! My wife and I became catechumen last summer. Looking forward to our baptism and finally being able to partake of the holy communion.
WOW I have been visiting the Catholic Church and praying about understanding why they believe what they believe 🙏. This is the most important subject to me . I have been loving Jesus for 44 years . (this November 20 , 1979 at 8:55pm . ) What Francis said in His own testimony, Has been mine . Why didn’t I question more what I was told ? It’s a symbol of what HE did ??. A symbol ? And when Francis explained how this was started. OH My LORD And MY GOD I’m sorry for not honoring YOUR great sacrifice more than just a symbol . Thank you sooooo 🙏🕊🙏 Sister Laura n JESUS
Please look into Eucharistic Miracles. There's a great book by Joan Carroll Cruz.
November 20, 1984 is the day Jesus saved me from myself. God is good.
Cradle catholic nothing else will satisfy my soul because of Transubstantiation ❤
That was awesome. Love Francis his passion for God is amazing. I loved the Covid comment too lol that was great thanks guys.
You guys are awesome. Yet again a great, needed, timely conversation. Kudos to Francis Chan for spearheading a new ecumenical movement. And brother Rowntree's quick explanation of the different views on communion was pretty spot on!
Baptist here. This is interesting to me. I had heard of Frances’ change in view of communion and I have enjoyed hearing the interview. I will say that, despite being raise my whole life and currently holding the view of memorial/commemoration, I have fully felt the reverence and humility, and the power of the Holy Spirit in my heart during the taking of communion. I can’t not feel the spirit moving when I reflect on Christ and his sacrifice and what it means for me.
Also, I appreciate the pastors who take the time to stop and read the warnings. People do not take it seriously enough, even with the warnings.
Jesus truly wanted to stay with us in a physical way because that's what love demands. We can never outdo God in love. Hence why the Eucharist makes so much sense. In last supper Jesus never said this is a symbol of me rather this IS me.
@Anna-yb4yr how do you take that verse and apply it to the last supper? No one in 1500yrs ever done that except protestants.
Become Catholic.
@Anna You're very confused. Sad
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Yes, if Jesus said the bread and wine was and is His body and blood then it is.
The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a sharing in the body of Christ? - 1 Corinthians 10:16
In the bread and wine we share in and receive together the blood and body of Christ.
This has been the view for 1500+ years. Has the truth of the gospel failed for 1500+ years?
Great to see this! I came from Protestant faith and once I studied the church fathers it led me to the truth Catholic Church. The Eucharist is what keeps me there always.
Exactly! Me, too. I go to both, but i keep my mouth shut at Mass about Protestant stuff, and when i go there, i keep quiet about Mass. It just divides people, and they cannot accept both sides. I do not receive communion in a Protestant church, nor will I. It just can't be both ways. On other issues I think both sides have strong and weak points.
Real Saints were murdered by Catholics for not believing in and submitting to the doctrine of Transubstantiation. This doctrine is wicked. Yeshua is clear in John 6 what He is talking about. So sick of these false teachers....including Chan.
@@JAGChristianos lol you’re a fool on history that’s a fact. There were no other Christians. Technically there were in the sense that there were Coptic Catholics and eastern Catholics, but there’s only one church. All of which believe in the real presence as Jesus commanded. When Jesus said this - to “gnaw on his flesh” only one disciple couldn’t accept it and that was Judas. Are you like Judas?
Some of the real saints were being fed to lions 1400 years before there were any Protestants@@JAGChristianos
This video is so good and the message is so beautiful!! My soul is so blessed! Thank you Jesus! I want to koinonia with you!
As a Wesleyan I love our theological tradition of an open table and the sacrament being a means of grace. It’s such a profound place and moment for people to encounter Jesus in a way that is uniquely different than any other time
From the Roman Catholic perspective:
We would in no way affirm that God desires/wants “30 different tables” meaning unable to have unity at the table. We want the one table as was mentioned. A “closed table” and the inability of those who do not profess all that the Catholic Church professes to be true to not participate in receiving is not directed to creating “multiple tables”. It is reserved to Catholics only because we see Communion as many things one being that it shows the unity of the faithful/believers - that we all believe that it is the real, true, substantial Presence of the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ. Also that we are united in what we believe to be true about the Christian faith. It is a way to hold the tension: all are welcome but welcome on the terms of Jesus Christ which we believe means that there is one church, one faith and thus believes in the above about the Eucharist.
Hope this helps!
Not even the Catholic Church believes that because they would say the eucharist is also present at the table of the orthodox christian
@@jonycruz2430 Indeed, the Catholic Church allows a catholic to take communion at an orthodox church, and allows an orthodox to take communion at an catholic church.
From the orthodox perspective, though, it's different. The Orthodox don't say that Christ is present at the RC table, and forbid their members from taking communion in a catholic church, and catholics from taking communion with them.
@@jonycruz2430 Jony: The Catholic Church understand that the Eastern Orthodox Bishops and Priests have valid Apostolic succession and thus valid Holy Orders thus they have valid 7 sacraments. This also applies to the Oriental Orthodox. Protestants, from the Catholic perspective, do not have a valid Eucharist.
Right there "30 different tables" is the wrong view!! It's because what the catholic sect teaches. This is wrong and unbiblical. Tradition is not truth although not wrong in most places.
Thank you for witnessing to Christ and His Catholic Church. 👍✝️👏👏👏
Fantastic conversation guys 👍
Wow. Thank you for such a great conversation..i love what Francis said about unity within the body before taking the communion. It make a perfect sense, what an awful thing to have anger, bitterness or whatever against a brother and then break bread in his presence. Wow. The body of Christ broken for us
Best chat I have ever heard concerning all these issues
I Loved today's podcast, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN
I became Orthodox because I believe God wants us all at the same table.
Welcome home ☦️
the orthodox left the roman catholic church. come back home.
This. Was. So. So. So. Good. Thank you. Bless you all 🙏
Coming of age (spiritually) in a Southern Baptist church in my teens, I later had a similar sacramental awakening and discovery of the importance of the church’s ancient consensus for reading the Bible rightly. This led me to (re)discover the Wesleyan tradition as an evangelical expression of Anglicanism that still holds a high view of the sacraments as means of grace and the Eucharist as a sharing in Christ’s body and blood. It is amazing (in retrospect) how many American evangelicals just don’t know the church’s sacramental theology not only from the 1st thousand years of the undivided church, but even from Protestant groups such as Lutherans, Anglicans, Wesleyans etc.
Thanks for this conversation. I'm really blessed. May you keep on journeying seeking God's heart in all of these things.
That wasn't long enough! I need more!
I am so extremely happy for you, Francis
Thanks guys ...you have reminded and en lighting me how scared and necessary communion is to the body of Christ.
It's interesting to me, because in a lot of ways I started as an outsider. And God drove me to be with Him and look at His word. I had no teacher or mentor but God for the first year and a half of being saved. And communion has always been very important and meant a lot to me. I will admit I must also ask forgiveness for I have done it too many times out of tradition or obligation or as an aside to the main thing. But God has always called me back to center, to experiencing Him through it. Thank you for sharing this critical truth!
Love this brother ❤️
I once attended and was mentored at a church where I learned that the senior pastor and one of the associate teaching pastors had different views on communion but nonetheless, never failed to loved and respected each other and the senior pastor allowed him to teach what he believed about it both were godly committed men I learned a lot from both of them in word and lifestyle.
I am glad to see more believers taking communion seriously. I hope and pray that more believers come to an understanding of it in it's proper context of Passover. Without an observation and understanding of Passover so much is still lost from communion. Everyone says that we should be doing what Jesus did but then stops short of worshipping how He worshipped.
You have a valid point, that much of the New Testament rests upon Old Testament typologies, and divorced from them meaning is lost, however, the Lord ushers in a new system, and declares that along with it we shall worship "in spirit and in truth," meaning, among many profound things, in a different way than the old "shadows."
Jesus said this is my blood and my body not this is a symbol
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The Lord said that while He was with them, so how was it not a symbol?
If I showed someone a photo and said “this is me”, should people believe that photo is ontologically me or just that it represents me?
@@robertedwards909 Brother Robert, please forgive my intrusion: if it's not symbolic, then what was left of his body to be crucified? Or was his body effectively divided, divided and yet whole as the paradox would go.
You have to remember this saying PRECEDES the death of the Passover lamb (Christ). It is therefore symbolic, though by no means entirely so by necessity. This is a challenge for theologians, no doubt about it.
Spirit and truth doesn’t mean a reinvention of practice though. Notice how the apostles continued in the temple and keeping the hours of prayer and worship? Worship is sobering God instructed Israel based on a heavenly picture.
As a Catholic at birth and now reaching 46 years on Earth, I will tell you this much: You will stand no chance against the power of the world and its prince without the nourishment of His flesh and blood in your souls. Unless you eat His flesh and drink His blood, you have no life in you. Don’t kid yourself, He meant it. He was serious about it enough to become Flesh and lower Himself to become a human being like us. All because of love. All in the name of love.
God loves us first so that we might come to love Him. That’s the meaning of all of the events in His life: the Creation, the Incarnation, the Calvary, the Resurrection, and lastly the Eucharist. As St. Augustine has said:”It’s because He is good that we are, that we exist.” He didn’t create us out of necessity; He didn’t need us. He didn’t create us out of Justice; He owned us nothing. Out of sheer love that He created us. This Love, this powerful love is the cause of all His sufferings. Because of this Love that He lowered himself from the highest Being and the status of The Creator to become the lower creature like us. Because of this Love that he accepted the most humiliating death on the Cross like a criminal. All because of this Love. I believe Saint John the Apostle was the one who cried out “God is love!” when leaning on the breast of Jesus in the Cenacle and had the privilege of hearing His heartbeat. He learned the secret of His love.
The Eucharist is His promise to stay with us all until the end of time. The Eucharist sustains, nourishes and heals us in our fight of this ongoing and never ending battle here on Earth against the principalities of this fallen world.
He left us the sacraments through His one true church to lead the church of militants in the current battle so one day we all can join the church of triumphant in heaven. So find that one true church so you’re well equipped to sustain the assaults of the enemies in this exile life. There’s a war going on and you’re in the middle of it.
Yes, because Catholics have been the pillars of holiness thru the ages.
@@jerseyjim9092 could say the same for non- Catholics by that logic. People can and will fail regardless of whatever walk of life you’re on. It doesn’t change the truth. The truth of Jesus Christ and what he taught has stood over 2000 years and will continue to stand.
@Thomas B - faith “alone” is unscriptural. James 2:24 says “You see that a person is justified by works and NOT by faith alone. Every scripture verse about future judgement is based on works and not by faith alone. Pax Christi
Amen!!
Hi I don't understand because Jesus fulfilled everything on the Cross. We can rest what He has already done for us. Why would he need to do it over again on the Eucharist?
This is so great, I grew up Italian Catholic and got saved at 27,although I didn't stay in the church I always kept my view of communion. Thanks to Francis for witnessing about something that is so important! Praise God
Hi Maria - lovely name! I'd invite you to really pray about your view of Holy Communion - if you truly believe in the True Presence of Jesus, nothing should be able to separate you from the Eucharist, or the Catholic Church. God Bless you! Sincerely, your sister in Christ
@@valerietucker7340 hi Valerie I can only describe my experience here in Scotland but I didn't hear the gospel that I was saved by grace through faith when I was 27 and I also since reading the bible no longer hold to praying to saints. I believe that savd Christians can take communion I don't need a priest. I'm sola scriptura now so I wouldn't go back to the RC church. I feel they have drifted from being Jesus centred. I hope this doesn't offend you but it's my walk and experience, much love x
Is the Holy mass not Jesus centered?
@@mariamcdaid2655 I’ll be praying that you come back to the One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith. That whatever is binding you from theses Truths- fear, anxiety, bitterness. pride, ? ? The Saints, are wiped away God bless you
Your sister in Christ
@@sheilasmyth5874 what’s stopping me is the amount of heresies that have crept in. Praying to saints, purgatory, a lack of the preaching of grace saving us not works. Too important to me to overlook sorry. I don’t have to belong to a denomination, I’m born again. Are you?
3 gentlemen who surrender to God’s will earnestly seeking truth. This is the fellowship I’m seeking. And I appreciate them letting me have a glimpse at theirs.
Fantastic stuff! God bless you Francis!
Even catholics need to rediscover the deep sense of eucharistic communion. Unfortunately, many catholics go to holy communion without examining their conscience. Thank you, Francis, for recalling this important point.
But the good news is that we catholics have another sacrament to help us clean our conscience, the sacrament of confession by which our sins - even our mortal sins! - are forgiven by the Blood of Jesus Christ.
This was sent to in our ladies Bible study group, because we were talking about transubstantiation. About half of our group grew up as Catholics and have become Protestants, I'm the only one who went the other direction. This is also my first year teaching the First Sacrament class at our church, which if you don't know teaches them about First Reconciliation (confession) and First Eucharist (First Communion). I am about to start teaching about the Eucharist and I am loving this video so much. It is reaffirming my beliefs about the Eucharist, reaffirming that this is the Body and Blood of Christ. I love how they described it as Jesus inviting us to the table. But what also hits home for me is that when we participate in the Eucharist, we are participating with the WHOLE church together.
Bible says a woman is not to teach/hold authority over a man and do not pray to mary and ’saints,’ ie, idolatry.
Hanna I'm very happy for you, 🙏 the actual presence of God is in the eucharist. Those who don't have the most high adoration, confuse pray/ask & veneration to others living in heaven with Idolatry since pray and singing is all they do for God. May God bless you in all your endeavors 🙏
@@jeffrey4505 hey Jeff, I I think there’s confusion in your lexicon between pray and worship. To pray is to ask. It is different than worship. Catholics worship the father, son, and Holy Spirit. But we ask the Saints who are the cloud of witnesses around us for their prayers and supplication to the Lord. Hebrews 12:1 Hope that helps. And in terms of some lady teaching kids Sunday school I didn’t see that anywhere in the Bible. Padre Pio Pray for us. Theotokos Pray for us!
You're confused. Please repent. I've posted plenty of rebuttals in the comments.
Humbleness, Francis Chan is humble.
Raised Catholic. Completed abandoned my religion in college; Biology major will do that. Until studying anatomy and physiology when I started second guessing what I was being taught. Later graduate courses in genetics I knew that I was on the wrong track. Back to church I went. But not Catholic church. I bounced between local evangelical, non-denominational churches until I learned that many pastors suffered from the 'cult of personality.' And growing 'their' church was a central focus. Now, the Catholics aren't perfect, no church is for that matter but the Catholic church is old, very old and its roots are Apostolic. I like that. As a history buff the closer we can get to an historical event the more accurate our accounting is. The Catholic church is right there with Peter as Pope. And church tradition is valuable if not crucial to understanding our faith. The Catholics are right to revere tradition. Before the gospels were written it was all tradition. Hymns and symbols and stories...
Thank you so much for sharing this. I have believed in real presence not to long ago, and my entire view have change since then.
What a gift God has given us
Francis Chan is the human equivalent to a rainbow coming out while it’s still stormy raining. He always has this look of being joyfully sad.
I always thought of him that way too😊❤
Interview Dr. Scott Hahn-Franciscan University in Steubenville-on the Eucharist.
Yes! Dr. Hahn would be an amazing guest!
Or Brant Pitre. Trent Horn. Chris Stefanick. Curtis Martin. Jason Evert. Jeff Cavins. Jimmy Akins. Christopher Check. Matthew Kelly. Patrick Madrid.
Oh thank you Lord for this! Lifelong Protestant here, I’ve grieved at the casual treatment of Holy Communion in Protestant churches, I’ve tried many. It has felt like I’m in a church “wilderness”, and I’m parched! Someone please pray for me. I don’t know what to do. I can’t unsee what I’ve seen.
This conversation was just AWESOME.
When Francis was talking about the “30 different tables” and desiring “1 table”, of course our Lord desires 1 table, but communion is more than just the table but Catholics see it as necessitating union in teaching and authority as well. How can we say we are one but don’t all profess “one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church”? Apostolic succession is how the Holy Spirit continues to guide the Church into truth through all generations, even before the Canon of scripture was made official. So to be one would be to also profess the same faith under the same headship of Jesus and those he has appointed as his vicars (apostles and their successors)
Very well put :) and yes - part of communion is being of one mind and one teaching! We can’t have communion with people who do not believe what the Church Christ founded teaches! All that said I want to pray for Francis Chan, I know God is working in his heart and seeing his love for Jesus is so inspiring. Come home, my brother. We DO want you at the table!
The only thing is if BE took communion at an Eastern Orthodox Church it would still be valid. All EO want if for the Catholic Church to give up heresies they brought forth in 1,000 AD.
Because roman Catholics elevated tradition over scripture and added veneration of saints or the need of mediators other than christ
Catholics weren't the ppl who broke away.
@@fightsatan2408 please learn the term venerate. Catholics believe ppl are saved by God's grace. You're expressing a wrong taught belief.
Francis is spot on. Protestantism has changed so much in the last few decades much less the last 500 years. We’ve replaced the sacraments with fog machines, skinny jeans, and house music. The reformers wouldn’t be able to recognize what has become of the church. Concepts such as the Eucharist can seem foreign to us because the modern church is a mere shadow of what it was designed to be. Hopefully conversations like this are indicative of a movement back to the authentic Christian experience.
Have you gave it a thought that there wasnt a reformation needed to begin with, do you realize what we that caused?? So many divisions and every division is loosing more and more truth. God doesnt want division, jesus did not lie to us when he said he founded his church and said that he gates of hell will not prevail and he would be with us until the end of times, he left teachings to the apostles not a bible, bible came later to help, but this teachings is what we catholics call apostolic tradition, not man made traditions. We have to also understand that there have been heretics throughout history that went against these apostolic tradition doctrines which in reality went against Gods will have broke away and made their own interpretation of the bible to fit their needs and wants, thats not what God wanted. This is the very reason we now have to thousand of protestant denominations that all claim to be christians and all are guided by the holy spirit have the truth, but truth is they all interpret the bible differently and have different teachings, so under what authority do we know who has the truth???
Francis went apostate and catholicism is paganism. But it just like the Bible says...... false doctrine abounds.
@@Jacob-uy8kg 1 john 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. This verse applies to protestantism, they came from the catholic church, but were really not catholic because if they would of been they never would of left, i hear it all the time from protestants “ when i was a catholic we used to do this and that” FALSE ! They never were catholics because they never really knew catholic doctrines, they believed what they were told, that catholicism is pagan. If the catholic church was pagan why would it be pro-life ??? While many other supposively christian denominations are pro-abortion???
@@Jacob-uy8kg Christmas and Easter are Catholic Holy Days, the birth of Christ and His resurrection.
@@joekey8464 paganism mixed with Christianity. Please do your due diligence.
Excellent. Now you’re all making me think about what I’ve believed my entire life. At least to examine it further.
Really love the open dialogue and mutual respect in this dialogue.
You guys are doing something amazing with this show
I'm not going to lie, when I saw "communion views" and " Francis Chan" in the same title, I didn't want to click on the video. But I'm glad that I did! I don't know if you guys do UA-cam shorts or Tiktoks, but as I was watching this I kept thinking to myself "This would make a good UA-cam Short". Great video guys! God bless!
One thing to consider to help differentiate between catholic/orthodox and the protestants is the sacrificial nature of the bread and wine. Erick Ybarra wrote a book called Melchizedek and the last supper which goes through the church fathers and their view of Melchizedek, Christ, and the eucharist. Very good book.
Differentiation is easier than that. Much easier. RCC/EO - NOT Sola Scriptura. Reformed Protestant - Sola Scriptura.
@@KristiLEvans1 The New Testament was written and compiled by the Orthodox Church . Seems like a crazy statement until you start studying it. Look at the names of the letters that Paul wrote - where are those churches today ? So us Orthodox consider the Scripture to be part of our tradition .
@@KristiLEvans1 RCC informed
Protestant, uninformed
This is the problem with Bible alone, when you jettison the historical doctrine and develop your own based on your misinterpretation and misunderstanding of scripture, you are in error.
thank you reminding me of the importance of coming around the Lords table, regularly and examining ourselves.
Praise the Lord...Amen!!!
You guys are so close! Praying that you eventually see where all those truths already click into place and have for 2k years. Come home to Rome!
Just a quick clarification on the Catholic definition of transubstantiation. The Catechism still leaves the metaphysical nature of the Eucharist mostly open to mystery. However, among most Catholic theologians, transubstantiation is considered the closest definition we will likely be able to form that accurately describes what is going on.
Well said David, even in the Liturgy, you here the Priest say celebrate the Sacred Mysteries. The Eucharist is indeed a Mystery.
Thank you so much. I grew up in a non-denominational church that took the time to have communion every Sunday and valued it. Now I go to a church that does it only once a month with the explanation that this way we don't take it for granted (and I've always wondered, if you are in Christ, how can you take communion for granted?) I always feel like something is lacking the Sundays we don't have it. Now I know why.
The Sacrament of Eucharist is only valid through His one true church, the Catholic Church as well as Orthodox Church.
@@BruceWayne-rb1mbI take the Eucharist, breaking of the bread, Lord’s supper, etc every Sunday, and do not attend the Catholic church
@@conniedobbins5216 it's not the true Bread of Life. It must be consecrated by apostolic succession just as the Apostles taught. Lay people can't consecrate. This is blasphemy and a condemnation on one's soul at St. Paul taught
Padre Pio pray for us!
I heard His voice at Mass!! "Study the Catechism" as a fallen away baptised Catholic this along with strong devine experiences after confession/adoration... the sacraments are real even if there is corruption/hurt/sin present in the church/leaders...(also found in our own lives/families)
Lord have mercy on me I felt they were empty rituals ...
@@deniselewis7663 don't worry. If you are sincere in your repentance, HE is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins. He throws them in the sea of forgetfulness ❤️🩹
It was always taught to me growing up, and even being taught the same in the Bible college I began to take for only 2 semesters, that when Paul says to examine yourself, he’s telling you to get rid of all of your sin, un forgiveness and bitterness.
But later on when I read Gods word for what it says, Paul wasn’t saying that at all. The focus wasn’t on sin, the only thing that can get rid of our sin is Jesus’ blood, that’s part of why we take communion in the first place, to remember we can’t get rid of sin on our own, but it’s by his blood we are made clean.
What Paul was saying is that the Corinthian church was not discerning the Lords body when taking communion, they turned it into a feast and got drunk on the wine, and the poor even went without.
Paul was saying examine yourselves as to why you’re taking communion, is it to get drunk and feast? Or is it to remember the lords death until he returns?
The reason why people were getting sick dying prematurely is due to the fact that they were taking it without discerning the Lords body, and that’s what happened when they crucified Jesus on the cross, the ones who had him killed were the ones who didn’t discern his coming and ended up crucifying the messiah. And they will be judged for it, so anyone who takes communion without discerning his body eats and drinks judgement onto themselves.
On the flip side though, if you do discern His body the correct way, “by his stripes you are healed” instead of getting sick and dying, you’ll actually be healed and live in health. My life is a testament to this, I haven’t gotten sick and I live in health.
That’s what communion did in the early church. We’ve lost sight of it today, we misunderstand what Paul was saying and end up putting the focus on sin, thereby falling into the same trap the Corinthians did, taking the focus off of the lords body and putting it somewhere else, in the Corinthians case on drunken feasts, in our case sin.
Just read this, and it reminded me of this conversation. Calvin on Ephesians 5:32 "We tell them that the flesh and blood of Christ are exhibited to us in the Lord’s supper. “Explain to us the manner,” they reply, “or you will not convince us.” For my own part, I am overwhelmed by the depth of this mystery, and am not ashamed to join Paul in acknowledging at once my ignorance and my admiration. How much more satisfactory would this be than to follow my carnal judgment, in undervaluing what Paul declares to be a deep mystery! Reason itself teaches how we ought to act in such matters; for whatever is supernatural is clearly beyond our own comprehension. Let us therefore labour more to feel Christ living in us, than to discover the nature of that intercourse."
A prayer that came to me during lent 2 years ago (I'm Anglican Catholic): Lord Jesus Christ let the faith which is resident in thy blood comingle with mine that I may love and trust thee mode.
Hope this blesses you.
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This messages is so needed. I was raised Roman Catholic. Got saved at 21 at a black baptist church with an AME lady preaching. I received the baptism of the Holy Spirit the the Catholic Charismatic movement. I’ve since left and go to a full gospel church. I still go to the Catholic Church sometimes to receive communion because it’s only once a month at my church and it’s presented as only a remembrance. The Holy Spirit also revealed to me 1 corinthians 11 about discerning, the Lord’s body. Praise God for your broadcast
The WORD is the bread not the flesh. It is written right there in the text of John 6.
You should not be receiving the Eucharist at Catholic Church If you have not confessed your sins through the Sacrament of Confession this is a very grave sin. You could be taking your own condemnation, Especially if you are not in communion with the Catholic Church and are dabbling with others.
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Catholic Eucharist is an abomination. Totally miss the point of the teaching.
What is serious is that Catholics follow men instead of their Creator's clear teaching.
Jer 17:5 Thus says the LORD, “Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind And makes flesh his strength, And whose heart turns away from YHVH.
@@EdgarRamG scripture and verse please. I’m sorry, but I do not agree with you. Jesus is my savior. My sins are washed away with his blood. He has removed my transgressions as far away from me as the east is from the west. We are one body, with one Lord, one God and father of all. In heaven, there are no denominations. I do confess my sins. I fear God, and not men. I don’t lean on the arm of flesh.. God bless you and may his love fill your heart by his Holy Spirit
@@user-bo1bb8sh4w1 Cor 11 27-30, stating in pertinent part “for he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself not discerning the body of the Lord”
The Catholic Church which was founded by Jesus, and has its see in Rome, has more rigorous views of who can and can’t take communion to protect our souls.
You can look into how the history of the church is of One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church just as Jesus left us, Matthew 16 18:19 if you just look though church history, its Prots that cut themselves off
Gal 1 6:8, makes clear that preAching some new Gospel can be dangerous, and that’s troubling when you think its just ok to take communion at the one Church that can trace its way back to Peter, and has never taught taking
the Eucharist lightly.
Ask yourself, in light of Matt 16 18:19, who can clearly guide the Church?
God Bless you always and i pray you take this charitably.