Hellbound: Hellraiser II - The Cinema Snob
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
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The Cinema Snob reviews Hellraiser 2.
Writer/Creator: Brad Jones
Title Card: Shaun Millington
Theme: Rhymer-Man, Devin Letroy Powell
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This Labyrinth sequel got a lot darker than I thought.
I must have missed the part where pinhead was played by David Bowie and turned into an owl and flew away 🤫😉
@@ZION73082 That would be traumatizing!!!😱😱😱
@@ZION73082 If Jareth ever took cues from Hell Priest, that baby he kidnapped would have gotten worse.
“Okay fine, you can play the title character in the hospital’s production of Julius Caesar.”
I don’t know, I kind of see him as more of a Pompey.
The moment Snob mentions The Puppet Master series and I think “wow, why hasn’t he snobbed all over The Puppet Master series yet?”
or wishmaster...
@@thomasjenkins7506 He did namedrop Wishmaster in the Leprechaun 2 review
@@Isabelle-fr9dp yeah, but that's a series that needs a review. it's awful.
There are like 12 of them. I love them all, and all the Hellraiser movies. I am complete garbage.
I’m from the future, be careful what you wish for...
"I have seen the future of horror, and it is named Clive Barker." Great quote, yeah? Except for one thing: Stephen King never said that. According to Doug Winter, a friend of King's and author of _Stephen King: The Art of Darkness,_ he and King were on a Q&A panel at a horror convention where someone asked the panel members which horror fiction authors were hot at the time. Someone on the panel mentioned Barker (none of whose books King had ever read till then). King was asked for his opinion. He said, "Right. Well, I haven't read this guy [Barker], but from what I hear, it's like what Jann Wenner said: 'I have seen the future of rock 'n' roll, and its name is Bruce Springsteen.' Sounds like Clive Barker could be 'the future of horror fiction.'" Afterward, a rep from Barker's paperback publisher approached King and asked if they could quote from what he'd said. King generously said yes, and the publisher transformed what he'd actually said into the famous blurb. The moral of this story is never trust a blurb.
That rep was very shrewd.
"Well... then, he _did_ say it... Then it's not really lying. Huh, 'context?' Who cares?! We're selling HORROR NOVELS HERE, Clive! This is gonna be great for you!"
My mind defaulted and thought the name *Doug Walker* was said. 🤡
@@PleaseTryAgainLater don't feel bad. I totally saw "Doug Walker" for a second, as well 😆😆👍🏻
Well, to be fair, Clive Barker is an OUTSTANDING writer. I've said that Stephen King is America's best story tell, but Clive Barker is America's best writer. (He's been a U.S. citizen for over twenty years now.)
In my opinion, Hellraiser 2 is the real ending to the story. It ties up literally all the characters of the first. You can just stop watching after 2.
Hellraiser 1 tied it all up just fine. Hellraiser 2 makes no goddamn sense. How did Julia become Leviathan's representative with a completely different personality in the span of like, a week max? What are the odds of Kirsty ending up in the asylum of the dude who's obsessed with puzzle boxes? What was the point of having Pinhead and co in this movie if they were just going to kill them off?
Why is Dr. Channard so fucking annoying? I thought this was supposed to be Hellraiser 2, not 3.
Agreed.
Meaning 2 should have ended it. However, it’s still nice seeing Pinhead not being killed off anyway.
@@DarthRushy I agree they might have ended too short, but considering the rest of the series, it should just end there.
no movies after Hellbound and maybe a mini series or a movie telling a few shorter stories, like it is done in Necronomicon would have been enough. They could have told stories like the puzzle boxes's French origin in this format without making a Pinhead in space movie.
This is a great movie about the origin of the Cinema Snob's father, Dr. Chenard. I look forward to seeing more of this in the Cinema Snob sequel
I can wait for the scene where he catches him watching city of the living dead and punishes him with three weeks of foreign black and white films
It always felt weird to me that Pinhead was shown to be so young for a multidimensional likely immortal sadomasochist. He came off in the original as timeless and transcendental. I assumed he was an original Cenonite
Leviathan is another dimension. Maybe time is perceived differently there or it exists outside of time.
I believe in the books he is a centuries old demon, read Scarlet Gospels, if only that could be a movie.
Scarlet Gospels is a separate canon continuing from the original novella.
Is the Chain Devil from D&D based on Pinhead?
"Your Suffering will be legendary, even in hell"
So the lady that lived downstairs from Wade Watts in Ready Player One was married to the guy that tried to kill Dirty Harry with Megatron's gun form?
Well, once again, if you watch Clive Barker, whether you want to or not, you're gonna get hooked. Whether that's literally or figuratively is entirely up to you, though.
"Uncle Fester caught in barb wire" is such a darkly funny idea lmao
I believe Barker gave Kirsty a boyfriend in the first movie to avoid confusing fans of the book who otherwise would've thought she was in love with her dad.
Shame the boyfriend never showed up again
Kinda makes sense.
In the book, she's young and pretty in a mousy kind of way and she has a crush on Rory (who for some reason, was renamed Larry in the movie) and Rory and Julia are in their early or mid-30s.
The conflict between her and Julia have the subtext of a young woman who resents the prettier wife of a man she wishes to possess while Julia feels superior to Kirsty, but is acutely aware that her looks are already starting to fade while Kirsty is still about to blossom and is somewhat of a threat.
The best part of waking up is Cinema Snob..in your..cup...
Yeah I didn't think that one through. But yay for early Snob upload!
Better than the Cinema Snob's Snot to show up in your cup.
But I wanted Orange Juice..
Better then lionsgate showing up in your cup...
GyroMurphy Dude that sounds SO wrong lol! Wasn't a cup at the sperm bank was it?
@@flexsealman7096 meh... I'll take the snob however he comes.
...... Dammit. I'm done commenting for awhile
13:32 if you crank up the volume, you can hear Lloyd in the background :D
I hear Lloyd all the time, whether I'm in bed, at work or in the shower, I hear his meow. Mocking me.
LOYD IS THE LEADER OF ALL THE CENOBITES
And Chloe is the Female leader? 🤔
Cute little meow.
Wow, no mention of Christopher Young's truly magnificent soundtrack? Easily one of the greatest horror scores ever.
Christopher Young is one of the most underrated film score composers of the last 30 years.
"Who was secretly the Scorpio Killer" - no, he was just a humble tailor...
"Which stories were true?"
"My dear doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"*Especially* the lies"
This was always my fav Hellraiser movie. The first is good, but this one is just better. I love the sort of mythos it creates, and the concept of the Leviathan is really cool.
"Holy Shit! It's Robert Englund!" Do you think that's how his family says "Good morning" to him each day when he walks into the kitchen looking for his coffee and shredded wheat?
Ha! I heard Lloyd talk on 13:32. Please tell me I'm not the only person who heard him. Lol 😆😆😆
Yep I heard him too lol
This is a bit of a muddled mess, but still pretty fun. The effects by today's standards are pretty 'special' too.
Claire Higgins as Julia is one of the most underrated female villains ever.
Hellraiser 1 and 2 deserve some digital makeover. no remake, no reboot, just some polish here and there to make it look great again beyond 90s and beyond VHS and beyond small TV screens
Cinema Snob uploads a Hellraiser video:
WE HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU!
I'm in eighties heaven, and that's a concept that didn't even exist when I was alive IN the eighties!
Chad Parenteau yeah, 1880’s heaven was kinda boring if you ask me
"Heaven Is A Place On Earth?"
@@dubuyajay9964 "Closer to it every day."
Didn't quite exist for me either, at the time, and I spent my most formulative years in the Eighties (ages 10- 19).
I used to say" why can't I be part of a decade that's cool? Like the twenties or something..." Little did I know, maybe because of too many B-52 shots ( what was up with the 80's and creamy shots? Seemed like everything had Bailey's or some nastiness) or too much perm solution, that the 80's were the coolest...
An Elm Street and Terminator reference. Also a Glass reference.. I feel old but hip.😎
Ironic, today I had my wisdom teeth removed and now I'm watching a review of a movie about ungodly pain & torture. Can we trade places please!?
You forgot Hellward Bound, and Hellward Bound 2: Lost in San Francisco
Well played.
Hellraiser: Requiem master and commander
Journey 2 the center of the box... OMG
You know what I miss about 80's horror films? Stop-motion.
If I didn’t know the Hellraiser series, then a title like “Hellbound” would make me think Snob was reviewing another Pureflix film.
might as well be a morale panic documentary about rock and roll, or jazz, or colored chalk...whatever get's you into hell
@Phreak Azoith exactly. The moral panic over Rubik’s Cubes due to the cartoon show was at an all time high, and this film was meant to reveal the truth!
You sure are a good camp president, Mr. Sack!
Hellbound: the Blood War. I remember that 2ed D&D book.
Oh hey! Kirsty’s scream you hear, was sampled in Ministry’s 1992 “Just One Fix” (looped 3x). So cool! Thanks Uncle Snobby!
The budget must have been all spent, the stone wallpaper bubbles when Kirsty leans her head against it Lmao XD 14:20
24+ hours with no sleep, wife admitted to hospital for kidney stones, need something to pass the time in a hospita.....helloooooo.
How is she doing?
@@dubuyajay9964 She's doing much better now, thank you for asking. She was discharged on Wednesday and has been recovering since. She's mainly sore right now, but all of the stones have been removed.
flmbyz ooh those suck ass. I’ve had them four times in last fifteen years and I wish I was dead every time. I hope she’s better and they never come back
Hellooooo? Is it me your looking for? 🤫😉
5:38 he played Pompey in HBO's Rome, close enough
"I'll get you clothes. I can do that. I'm a doctor."
Say, that IS a good James Mason impression, Brad :)
Puppet Master? Do I sense a tease for the next movie series? One can only hope
Wait a minute, I just remembered: we didn’t get a top 10 Snob moments for 2018!
"Holy shit it's Robert Englund!" I LOLed.
Leviathan must have been one crazy place when confused Freddy and Jason were strolling its corridors til they were brought back to the real world
My opinion Hellraiser 2 was 10 times more freaky!!! Than part 1.
Hmmm, but those Pinhead lines in one are....legendary.
totally agree, ive always preferred this to the first one
I agree as well. Pinhead is still quite menacingly poetic in this one as well.
Totally agree
12:40 I hope Brad does a random Pinhead line with that voice in every review of the series.. I haven't laughed so hard in ages as I did with this one. Same for the random Gary Numan reference.. I always approve of that too lol.
Dont be to hard on Stephen King snob he was pretty coked up at the time. Im sure he didnt remember what he said about the first installment.
I've seen the future of horror and it's name is Michael bay - Stephen king
I thought Hellraiser II was such a unique sequel in its own right against many other horror sequels of the 80’s, it was a solid movie. And I loved the concept of the Leviathan, what the Cenobites actually serve is really creative and interesting. Considering the Leviathan in the Hellraiser story’s is referred to as a fallen angel or actually Lucifer. There’s so much that could’ve been expanded on with the leviathan and the lament configuration, but hopefully the promise of a film reboot will explore these concepts again.
This is probably the best the Hellraiser movies ever get.
Also, Ministry sampled this movie heavily for their My Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste album.
13:19
Thank you for that Brad
1:53- Nice Rambo reference.
2:40- For those wondering, the first two Hellraiser films were released on DVD by Image Entertainment under their Midnight Madness Series.
4:41- You have, you have rocked me.
Kenneth Cranham's IMDB photo looks creepier than Brad's creepy face.
8:03- When I first saw this movie over a year ago, I felt a bit queasy at the site of skinless Julia, because of how realistic in looks. 2nd time watching it a year later, I was okay seeing it, especially in this review.
10:27- Ohhhhh, THAT'S where I've seen him. I thought he looked familiar.
13:57- Something tells me you're gonna review THAT movie too, aren't ya?
This is a new classic Snob episode. Some real gems here.
Still wrestling in FWE?
8:03 Thank you, Brad. Now I don't feel so alone in finding her attractive ever since I saw this movie as a kid.
I love the Aliens poster! I think with the Alien Franchise currently in the toilet, it's the perfect time for an Aliens Broadway Musical!
3:50 "Sure take the gamble it might have chocolate in the middle or Diamonds"
Everytime I watch this scene I think why would you stick your face near a box that just flew open across the room you answered that for me 😂
"This is one of those mental wards where you unfortunately have a roommate." tells me way more about Brad's life than I think he intended, despite his being very clear and honest about his past. 😹 I love you, man. You've gotten me through many tough times and I'm grateful for your videos.
I talked my preacher into showing Jesus Bro after I got the DVD. There's nothing but old ww2 vets @ my church... It was fantastic.
The girl that played Tiffany looks like she could be related to Brad Pitt. I swear, the resemblance is uncanny.
What is it with horror movie sequels that when they put the main character of the previous movie in a psychiatric ward, it's always the one with the shadiest, dingiest, and moldiest place with the most morally questionable personnel they could find?
In all fairness, most state-run facilities in the US are NOT very well-run at ALL -- ESPECIALLY before the mid to late 90's. Back then, the best they could do with mental health patients was just lock them in a room and keep them heavily sedated because of how little they knew about mental health.
Hell, just watch Benny & Joon, the 2nd title character is clearly just heavily autistic, but, because the conscenious then was that women couldn't get autism, she's completely mis-diagnosed, and ends up in a mental ward, which, a foreign environment with a LOT of very noisy off-screen inmates? Probably the single WORST environment for someone who is autistic, and gets overloaded by the whole thing immediately.
@@AnInsideJoke The documentary Cropsey has footage from a mental health facility for children and it is fucking horrifying. Going to that place makes dingy movie facilities seem like a memory of heaven.
Yeah to the historical stuff, but almost EVERY horror movie that has a hospital, the hospital is half lit and dirty.
Thumbs up for the Eastern State Penitentiary reference! I work there every Halloween!!! =D
I watch most of the humorous movie reviewers on UA-cam. None of them bring me as much happiness as the snob
Changing her name every time you say it was a pretty good gag that I don't think many people caught
My favourite of the franchise, it’s all down from there
Who else was eating while watching this review & resisted the urge to vomit?
Glad to know I wasn't the only one.
I love all your videos, but I really loved this one. I love Hellbound, but that doesn't make this any less hilarious.
I think the Djinn from Wishmaster is more Freddy's cousin than Pinhead. That said, I really hope you'll do Wishmaster one day. I love the first movie, it's pure silly fun.
A bowl of red cabbage... a... a bowl of red... cabbage. I'm both appalled and oddly enough, absolutely delighted. I'm soooooo conflicted! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's always great to come back home from work and popping on a episode of the Cinema Snob. Like a great meal and drink this goes all well together.
I love the way in the artwork thumbnail he actually looks happy instead of grouchy XD
14:18-20 Oh, I wouldn't say that. Pinhead is _hella_ sexy.
Butterball Is pretty hot too.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 he makes a damn good turkey! also this comment made on Thanksgiving ftw 🤫😉
It's not hyands that call us! It is deesire! -Lead Cenobite John Hellbound
I was waiting on this review. And it did not disappoint.
Your comments have me choking with laughter,and that's from a man who has a giant Pinhead tat on his Left Rib.
A well made sequel.
Love how he sounds like Lloyd wit a british accent.
I remember watching this back at my second house over a decade ago
Turns 35!
This one truly has a more darker tone than the last one which in a way matches director Tony Randal's mindset
Clive Barker executive produces this time but thankfully this has almost the same spirit acting more like a dark fantasy
It's nice to see the Cenobites again in top form seeing how their own vices lead to them becoming demons themselves and we get more insight into Pinhead's origin
The blood and gore doesn't disappoint and the practical effects are top notch making the agony interesting
There's still the ideas of corruption by lust, pleasure and pain being indistinguishable, knowing too much is dangerous, is there more to learn?, we pursue forbidden pleasures through fascination
Ashley Laurence brings a lot more to her role, the mythos grows even bigger with a cosmic hellscape, and I really like Tiffany by Imogen Boorman who has an innocent quality to her as she's one of the few not actively seeking the box
The budget is bigger despite new world pictures having to cut the budget due to financial issues allowing for a bigger labyrinth environment
The sequel managed to expand the characters and the mythos without having to repeat things being very operatic thanks to Randal's input representing a fully more realized production
'Hellraiser 2' is the only chapter worth checking out of 9 abysmal sequels that serves as a final swan song in terms of creativity
The Snob reviewed his way through the HALLOWEEN, FRIDAY THE 13TH, SLEEPAWAY CAMP, A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET and SILENT NIGHT, DEADLY NIGHT films, now he's doing HELLRAISER.
I didn't start watching the series until recently so watching this review feels like watching a Midnight Screenings.
for some reason i remember a hellraiser movie that had a security guard outside that gets turned into like a twin cenobite?? i can't remember what one it fucking was but i feel like it wasn't any of the movies after 4...like that scene felt like it was from the 80s.
I think that's the one where Pinhead goes to Space.
I am glad you are doing these, but something about this movie always makes me think of Phantasm. Can't wait till you've got time to cover that series.
My thoughts on hellraiser 2 hellbound I thought this sequel was really good
Likewise. The last of them I really liked actually.
Kid Ragnarok indeed because dear god after this sequel the hellraser series goes downhill really quick and that’s just sad because it could’ve been a good two parter in my opinion.
@@TevyaSmolka Oh, absolutely. I generally regard the series as just the the first two films, because things get bad immediately afterwards, and just doesn't let up. It's a shame.
@@antgto agreed and you're right about that and that's just sad.
@@antgto I think the third one feels directionless and there's no sense of a good core idea.
The fourth one is not as good as the first two, but it's a step up from the third and enjoyable enough. Like the second installment it's very much about the world-building. I like the idea that the cenobites (the word itself meaning a member of a religious order in a monastic commune) are just a smaller part of some larger, pan-dimensional, S&M, demon religion. It does suffer from a bit of excess and silliness, but's it's still more sober than part 3.
Everything after that is weirdly interchangeable, ranging from mediocre to sluggish and sub-par. I've only seen 3 (maybe 2?) of the following movies and they lacked both the spectacle and the depth of part 4 and its betters.
1:25 one must mention that Kirsty's new boyfriend/doctor is played by none other than Gorman from ALIENS... which could explain why Snob has an ALIENS poster behind him.
10:20 and there you go.
You know.. we have something like 8 HELLRAISER sequels and none of them ever went back and used the Leviathon concept.
That's because almost all the sequels began as unrelated scripts that shoehorned Pinhead into them.
*MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYESSSSSSSSS*
That picture should go alongside Nicholas Cage's sadistic grin.
Just when I was having a shitty day at work, guess who rendered me hellrisen?!
I don't want to jinx it but this review came delightfully soon after the the first Hellraiser review.
The first two films are the best, because you could change the title to “The Stepmother” and pretend these were a cynical attempt to cash-in on The Stepfather franchise.
4:41 "Alright, I'm out of Queen jokes." I'm not!
Who's the Killer Queen, now? No more Back Chat from you! Who Wants To Live Forever, anyway? Just Gimme The Prize, already.
4:30 that's two great references in less than 15 seconds
I used to live right beside EASTERN STATE PENITENTIARY in Philly... Nice reference, Brad!
“Mmmhmmmhmmmhmmhmmmhmmmhmmmmmmmmmm....yeeeessssssss”
Why?
He must have forgot he killed Julia in the last one 😂
BTW, the guy who plays the young doctor you might remember from Aliens, as the lieutenant Gorman who tries to lead the mission.
20:43
I love everything about this ending.
Why did Brad skip over the infamous bugs under the skin scene? Maybe to not get demonatized or have a "restricted" video rating?
10:00 perfect reference. laughed so hard. what? ... expecting milk to come out my nose or something? no, just laughed so hard.
15:15 why did I know that reference all to well? oh, because I am old. well done.
Thank you, sir... for making the "mistake a name" thing into gold in this one. Two thumbs up.
“A hundred and five years, and he still doesn’t know my name.”
Clare Higgins looks like female titan from Attack on Titan
I'm pretty sure everyone looks the same skinned.
“And to think…I hesitated…”
Kind of just want a movie where Brad dubs everyone's lines
Hahhhhh, and I was there at the 2nd unit shoot for Hellraiser III, back when I was editing for a Hellraiser 'zine.
So you do live in my area! Saint louis! I knew it when you mentioned the restaurant the pasta house before! Too cool!
Near Springfield IL, actually, if I remember correctly. Still pretty close to our mutual home city, though.
I'm his neighbor.
The Snobs voice and tones are hilarious
14:35 The matte painting artist was trying for MC Escher but somehow ended up copying "Maze Craze" Escher.
Good luck with that reference...
Well now we have done the good ones...release the suckfest that is hellraiser 3 to 9!
I thought 3 was still ok. But couldn't even finish 4. In space? What were they thinking?
You did the "nasally Mandark voice" treatment to the most badass lines of the first two movies. Guess I'll be waiting for "Do I look like someone who cares what God thinks?!" from the 4th one.
'My god, Julia, it's like sticking my fingers in a bowl of red cabbage!' I just spat out my fucking tea.