Well, it depends on the degree of preservation. If soft tissue impressions are preserved then burial to great depth probably occured very rapidly, to exclude oxygen before soft tissue decay could set in. However, if there is soft tissue decay, death may have occured before burial or at a shallow depth or at a slow rate. Scattered skelital remains and especial signs of predation would tend to indicate death prior to burial. It depends quite a bit on the type of environment, too. Like if it fell into a bog or tar pit, its going to preserve well regardless, due to those environments excluding oxygen, even without overlaying sedimentation. When I did HSC geology at a public high school in Australia in the mid 70s, this was all well accepted even then. I did 2nd level multi strand Physics, Chemestry & Geology, I was awarded a 1st level in science, it's a no brainer right! I have no idea why we are still arguing millions of years in 2023, it's like some people are stuck in 1800s science. If you really evaluate the development of radioactive dating, it's lpgic is shot full of convenient assumption. It's a natural environment in which the rocks are made up or recycled minerals & all the element predate the formation of the planet. You would have to be an insane person to think thay can date that? I didn't believe the methodology when I lerned it the 70s & I still don't. But it's used because it's the only tool available & any tool is better than none, even if it's just a sharpened stick.
You cannot call yourself an evolutionary biologist and at the same time call evolution "a fairy tale". An evolutionary biologist is a scientist. There are no (and can be no) "fairy tale scientists": You cannot study something you reject the premise of the very existence of.
Strange that people always avoid in their reactions what is really being said, but tell their own story and use that as a counterargument. Learn to listen UNBIASED, then you will come to a completely different thought. If these prejudiced people ever become scientists, the world will perish from prejudice and a very big start has already been made.
Most things don't fossilize. If only 1 in a billion of every prehistoric fishes sinks to the bottom and gets covered with silt in this rarest of ways, those would be the fossils we have. And since fish have appeared, there have been hundreds of billions, if not trillions of them, so we'd still have a tone of fossils... If everything fossilized, the world would be covered with fossils as 99.9999999% of all animals that have ever lived, have died...
It wouldn't matter if some fossils are made in 15 seconds. The time for fossils to form in no way impacts all the evidence for the hundreds of millions of years *age* of the fossils. Do creationists ever think before making these inane arguments?
Bro, evolution requires as much, or more, "faith". Additionally, most evolutionary concepts don't stand up to logical, scientific skepticism. AIG is one of multiple organizations that has a vast amount of scholarly, but easily understandable explanations showing how macro-evolution is a fairy tale. Don't hold fast to ideas just because you've been told them all your life. Study both sides. Also, don't reject Christianity just because you've had bad experiences with "Christians" nor because you don't want to have to submit to the Creator.
There are different types of fossils. Dinosaurs were fossilized too but doesn’t mean they were in water. The layers of minerals/rocks where we find some of the fossils helped determine a rough era when these fossils are formed. Radiometric dating. Even with the information we have now it is still a rough estimate that we can’t pinpoint within thousands of years but we know it is past the millions
Fossils are different in different layer of sediment. So no one flood could not have made all the fossils. The process of bone to fossil takes a long, at least 10,000 years. Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not about 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". Gen. 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to? Creationism does not equal young Earth. There are many Old Earth creationists.
The 4th commandment GOD said six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work. Why then is GOD commanding HIS people to work?When Yom is used with a number it certainly does mean a 24 hour period. Evening is the beginning of the day and that continues in the morning and ends in the evening.
@@JohnA-bear However, this passage is one of five in the Torah addressing the fourth commandment. For three (Ex. 35:2, Lev. 23:3, and Deut. 5:12-15), there is no connection between God's workweek and humanity's. In all five passages, humanity's Sabbath is referred to as "a Sabbath," indicating there is more than one kind of Sabbath. In Lev. 25:4 the Sabbath rest for the agricultural land is one year. Given their biological limitations, a one year Sabbath is optimal for the agricultural land while 24 hours is optimal for humans. God has no biological limitations. His Sabbath rest can be as long as he pleases. Psalm 95:8-11 and Hebrews 4:1-11 declare that God's Sabbath rest continues through to the present time. Unlike for the first six creation days, there is no evening-morning phrase for God's seventh day (Genesis 2:1-4), indicating that God's seventh day is not yet finished. Bottom line: there are no passages in the Bible ruling out old-earth creationism. It is the opposite. a literal, consistent interpretation of all the Bible's creation texts rules out young-earth creationism. YEC Reject the Word of God, that tells up that day in Gen 1 is not 24 hours: Hebrews 4:9-10 Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 Romans 5:12 Gen. 2:4 Romans 1:20 Psalm 19 1-4 Leviticus 25:2 and Exodus 23:10-11 Leviticus 25
@@djsarg7451 Entering into GOD'S rest isn't speaking about physically relaxing. If we enter into rest and GOD'S time is limitless, we would continuously rest our entire life doing nothing. Entering into GOD'S rest seems to be about us thinking what we can do for salvation but JESUS already did everything for salvation. So we take comfort, not worry, and rest knowing what CHRIST did,.
@@JohnA-bear So you only reject : Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 Romans 5:12 Gen. 2:4 Romans 1:20 Psalm 19 1-4 Leviticus 25:2 and Exodus 23:10-11 Leviticus 25 But not not Hebrews 4:9-10? God created for 6 days and rested on the 7th. We are in the 7th day. When do you think the 7th the day started and when did it end? Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to answer the question.
@@JohnA-bear Day 7 is long, thus day 1 to 6 are long. How do we know this, the Bible tells us: 1) The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. (Genesis 1:23-31) 2)Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". 3) Gen 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” referring to the whole time of the six days 4) Hebrews 4:9-10 tells us day 7 is long. "Yom is always 24 hours when it is used with "evening and morning"" This YEC talking point not in the Bible. I give you the Bible, you give me YEC talking points. Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not about 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. I work the day shift. (Both are not 24 hours) Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". Gen 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” referring to the whole time of the six days The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours (Genesis 1:23-31)
First they misrepresent the theory itself. Then they misrepresent the science that proves it. Then they fill in the gaps with religion, superstition and anecdotes.
Well if your big bang theory was correct why hasn't it happened again and again why has not it taken nothing and made another big bang because God is the beginning and the last the Almighty who created everything he is the big bang. He said let there be light and from there he spoke and it happened
Its obvious that science has gaps. So with the facts presented here, its ' back to the drawing board'. The story of Noah s flood is religion ? Not an event ?
Ridiculous like the coloured in fairy tales you were presented by an acolyte of science religion when you were a young child at school? Calvin and his team merely present an alternative view to the one were presented with, I am especially thankful to them for pointing out that the established narrative is full of holes and therefore should be open to question.
Calvin, thank you for sharing the truth. God bless you brother and don't grow weary of teaching the truth. GBU
What's his last name
@@6thgenevozach481 Nobrain.
@@6thgenevozach481 Smith or 'Smuth'.
@@6thgenevozach481 his last name is Smith 😊
He works for the scam artist Ken ham and he wants your money.
Well, it depends on the degree of preservation. If soft tissue impressions are preserved then burial to great depth probably occured very rapidly, to exclude oxygen before soft tissue decay could set in. However, if there is soft tissue decay, death may have occured before burial or at a shallow depth or at a slow rate. Scattered skelital remains and especial signs of predation would tend to indicate death prior to burial. It depends quite a bit on the type of environment, too. Like if it fell into a bog or tar pit, its going to preserve well regardless, due to those environments excluding oxygen, even without overlaying sedimentation.
When I did HSC geology at a public high school in Australia in the mid 70s, this was all well accepted even then. I did 2nd level multi strand Physics, Chemestry & Geology, I was awarded a 1st level in science, it's a no brainer right! I have no idea why we are still arguing millions of years in 2023, it's like some people are stuck in 1800s science.
If you really evaluate the development of radioactive dating, it's lpgic is shot full of convenient assumption. It's a natural environment in which the rocks are made up or recycled minerals & all the element predate the formation of the planet. You would have to be an insane person to think thay can date that? I didn't believe the methodology when I lerned it the 70s & I still don't. But it's used because it's the only tool available & any tool is better than none, even if it's just a sharpened stick.
I'm an evolutionary biologist, and I know creation is real. Evolution is a fairy tale
How can you be an Evolutionary Biologist and a Creationist, isn’t that contradictory?
@@danielcoganmanzanas3676 Uh-huh.
You cannot call yourself an evolutionary biologist and at the same time call evolution "a fairy tale". An evolutionary biologist is a scientist. There are no (and can be no) "fairy tale scientists": You cannot study something you reject the premise of the very existence of.
@@55QuirllBy looking up your own evidence.
@@spikenomoon Which I have done
It was by Divine Intervention that I found this channel
Thank you!
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Keep up the Good work!
Strange that people always avoid in their reactions what is really being said, but tell their own story and use that as a counterargument.
Learn to listen UNBIASED, then you will come to a completely different thought.
If these prejudiced people ever become scientists, the world will perish from prejudice and a very big start has already been made.
Most things don't fossilize. If only 1 in a billion of every prehistoric fishes sinks to the bottom and gets covered with silt in this rarest of ways, those would be the fossils we have. And since fish have appeared, there have been hundreds of billions, if not trillions of them, so we'd still have a tone of fossils... If everything fossilized, the world would be covered with fossils as 99.9999999% of all animals that have ever lived, have died...
Fish have only existed since God made them a few thousand years ago.
So what?
Well since you got it all figured out why can't you recreate this in a lab?
Let the evolutionists prove the theory of evolution in a lab before they indoctrinate our children with it.
@@eddyvos2628 (1) Evolution has been observed in a lab. (2) Evolution is not a theory.
@@billyb7465 Which evolution has been proven in a lab ? How a fish became a dinosaur ?
@@eddyvos2628 Various bacteria have been observed evolving.
@@billyb7465 Indeed, there is variation within a kind. NOT evolution of a microbe into an animal.
Canadian comedy at its best.
Nice ad hominem attack... Just call it comedy without making a single arguement.
It wouldn't matter if some fossils are made in 15 seconds. The time for fossils to form in no way impacts all the evidence for the hundreds of millions of years *age* of the fossils. Do creationists ever think before making these inane arguments?
No they don't. No amount of evidence, logic, facts, or education, can fix the anecdotal mind.
No, that’s the sad part, they have an answer and they try to get the facts to go along with the narrative
Bro, evolution requires as much, or more, "faith". Additionally, most evolutionary concepts don't stand up to logical, scientific skepticism. AIG is one of multiple organizations that has a vast amount of scholarly, but easily understandable explanations showing how macro-evolution is a fairy tale. Don't hold fast to ideas just because you've been told them all your life. Study both sides. Also, don't reject Christianity just because you've had bad experiences with "Christians" nor because you don't want to have to submit to the Creator.
I feel like you didn't listen carefully to how fossils were formed and THAT didn't happen in millions of years.
There are different types of fossils. Dinosaurs were fossilized too but doesn’t mean they were in water. The layers of minerals/rocks where we find some of the fossils helped determine a rough era when these fossils are formed. Radiometric dating. Even with the information we have now it is still a rough estimate that we can’t pinpoint within thousands of years but we know it is past the millions
Except for the fact dinosaur bones have soft tissue.
Must be nice to do mental gymnastics to prove the sky daddy was real
Fossils are different in different layer of sediment. So no one flood could not have made all the fossils. The process of bone to fossil takes a long, at least 10,000 years.
Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today.
The earth is not about 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is:
Sunrise to sunset
Sunset to next sunset
Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ).
We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast.
Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains".
Gen. 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens”
The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours.
Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?
Creationism does not equal young Earth. There are many Old Earth creationists.
The 4th commandment GOD said six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work. Why then is GOD commanding HIS people to work?When Yom is used with a number it certainly does mean a 24 hour period. Evening is the beginning of the day and that continues in the morning and ends in the evening.
@@JohnA-bear
However, this passage is one of five in the Torah addressing the fourth commandment. For three (Ex. 35:2, Lev. 23:3, and Deut. 5:12-15), there is no connection between God's workweek and humanity's. In all five passages, humanity's Sabbath is referred to as "a Sabbath," indicating there is more than one kind of Sabbath. In Lev. 25:4 the Sabbath rest for the agricultural land is one year. Given their biological limitations, a one year Sabbath is optimal for the agricultural land while 24 hours is optimal for humans. God has no biological limitations. His Sabbath rest can be as long as he pleases. Psalm 95:8-11 and Hebrews 4:1-11 declare that God's Sabbath rest continues through to the present time. Unlike for the first six creation days, there is no evening-morning phrase for God's seventh day (Genesis 2:1-4), indicating that God's seventh day is not yet finished. Bottom line: there are no passages in the Bible ruling out old-earth creationism. It is the opposite. a literal, consistent interpretation of all the Bible's creation texts rules out young-earth creationism.
YEC Reject the Word of God, that tells up that day in Gen 1 is not 24 hours:
Hebrews 4:9-10
Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6
Romans 5:12
Gen. 2:4
Romans 1:20
Psalm 19 1-4
Leviticus 25:2 and Exodus 23:10-11
Leviticus 25
@@djsarg7451 Entering into GOD'S rest isn't speaking about physically relaxing. If we enter into rest and GOD'S time is limitless, we would continuously rest our entire life doing nothing.
Entering into GOD'S rest seems to be about us thinking what we can do for salvation but JESUS already did everything for salvation. So we take comfort, not worry, and rest knowing what CHRIST did,.
@@JohnA-bear So you only reject :
Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6
Romans 5:12
Gen. 2:4
Romans 1:20
Psalm 19 1-4
Leviticus 25:2 and Exodus 23:10-11
Leviticus 25
But not not Hebrews 4:9-10?
God created for 6 days and rested on the 7th. We are in the 7th day.
When do you think the 7th the day started and when did it end? Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to answer the question.
@@JohnA-bear
Day 7 is long, thus day 1 to 6 are long. How do we know this, the Bible tells us:
1) The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. (Genesis 1:23-31)
2)Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains".
3) Gen 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” referring to the whole time of the six days
4) Hebrews 4:9-10 tells us day 7 is long.
"Yom is always 24 hours when it is used with "evening and morning"" This YEC talking point not in the Bible.
I give you the Bible, you give me YEC talking points.
Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today.
The earth is not about 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is:
Sunrise to sunset
Sunset to next sunset
Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ).
We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. I work the day shift. (Both are not 24 hours)
Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains".
Gen 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” referring to the whole time of the six days
The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours (Genesis 1:23-31)
First they misrepresent the theory itself. Then they misrepresent the science that proves it. Then they fill in the gaps with religion, superstition and anecdotes.
Come with FACTS, not with an ad hominem attack !!
Well if your big bang theory was correct why hasn't it happened again and again why has not it taken nothing and made another big bang because God is the beginning and the last the Almighty who created everything he is the big bang. He said let there be light and from there he spoke and it happened
Its obvious that science has gaps. So with the facts presented here, its ' back to the drawing board'.
The story of Noah s flood is religion ? Not an event ?
@@lindavanzwol2643 Are you on crack...or heroin?
The myth of evolution is a religion in itself.
Same goody goody guy pretending to have all the answerd. Ridiculous
Ridiculous, like your grammar 😮
Ridiculous like the coloured in fairy tales you were presented by an acolyte of science religion when you were a young child at school? Calvin and his team merely present an alternative view to the one were presented with, I am especially thankful to them for pointing out that the established narrative is full of holes and therefore should be open to question.