Sadler Vaden vs. Tube Screamers
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- Опубліковано 2 кві 2023
- Rhett returns from Europe to chat with “guitar player’s guitar player” Sadler Vaden of Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. The trio jump right into their takes on the whole Bad Monkey saga, then dig into a detailed interview about how a Crazy Horse concert changed Sadler’s life, some tips for guitarists (spoiler alert: rhythm guitar is important!), and they discuss the band’s upcoming release, Weathervanes, unpacking the writing and recording process.
When the conversation turns to gear (you knew it was coming), Sadler answers questions about his gig rig, shouts out his favorite guitar stores to hit up on tour, and then it’s time to dip a rig (cue the Tube Screamer Talk).
Along the way, we find out if Oasis is really Sadler’s favorite band and what kind of U2 concert he really wants to see (hey Bono and Edge, you guys listening?), and talks about what it was like to see Prince live (and how far he drove).
Finally, Rhett shares the improbable story of his newest acquisition, a Tascam 388.
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www.jasonisbell.com
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I've seen Jason and the 400 Unit twice in the last year and both were fantastic. Sadler is a monster, and you can tell he really appreciates Mike Campbell because he kinda feels like this generation's Mike Campbell. Perfect tone and he can do anything, but always plays the perfect part
I have tickets to see Jason Isbell and the 400 unit in August in Sadler's home town of NMB, SC at the House of Blues. Can't wait!
I saw these guys in Delaware last year.. sat right by the soundboard aimed right down the isle at the two of them. It was a tone clinic all night long.. b-benders, bursts, 335's were flying. ..and the songs! Go see 'em if you haven't. It's a beautiful thing.
Great interview! Would love to hear Sadler's take on Jason Isbell being under appreciated as a guitarist. I think it is partly because he is such a great singer songwriter - and partly because he has Sadler in the band. Make no mistake - Jason is a MONSTER guitarist in his own right!
Easily the best guest yet...Mike Campbell Rules!
Finger hut! When I got married my wife and I furnished our house from a Fingerhut catalog. Furniture, stereo, tv, washer and dryer. Haven’t heard that name in many years. Thanks for the Sadler Vaden interview. I’m a huge fan of his production and guitar playing.
I saw U2 in 1987 and they just played. And it was awesome.
54:44 This. Lol😂 Mister Vaden is obviously a very smart, experienced and insightful gentleman because he’s saying something I’ve been banging on about forever. You can tell he spends more time onstage playing guitar than online thinking about playing guitar. We have a tendency to get so granular in our tone-fretting because we don’t get to do enough note-fretting. 😮see what I did there!? 😅
I’m as guilty as anyone here. Or at least I used to be. Any guitarist with a 9-5 that ain’t actually playing the guitar spends an awful lot of time thinking about playing the guitar. It’s natural to obsess about signal paths and buffers and tone clarity. Maybe it’s just because I’m fortunate enough to have dialed in my ideal sound and tones but I’ve long been free from that worry. I’m gonna go play now. 🎉❤
Can’t believe I was 3 months late to this and just now saw Sadler answered my question from instagram 😂
Action Music is one of my locals. An absolutely phenomenal store with some killer vintage guitars and pedals.
I am a giant Jason Isbell fan. I just saw the crew in Joliet, IL and they sounded mighty. BTW, Zach, the Mjolnir will need to be pried out of my cold, dead hands. Easily my favorite pedal, it's almost always on. Thank you for making it.
Sadler is great. Seeing him with Jason is always a treat. Both such natural players.
The Magnatone 2x10 is called the Panoramic Stereo, which is what Rhett was playing in Europe (not the Twilighter Stereo; which is our 2x12)
Excellent episode, big fan of Drivin N Cryin, as well as Jason Isbell and the 400. Love the honesty that comes out in these shows and Sadler Vaden is no exception, down to earth and honest - love it!!!
That was a really fun episode!
Zach, I live in my Homage sweatshirt! They've cracked the code to make the perfect hoodies and crewnecks.
Sadler is so good and so no nonsense. I had no idea what a monster player he was until seeing them live. And his slide playing is so tasteful too! Always assumed it was Jason. His playing and production on the new Drayton Farley are also phenomenal.
Great episode, keep up the good work. Love the laid back nature of your show.
Awesome session. Great pints about moving air and vol7me and tone. Love your playing Sadler!
Excellent show! I’ve been a fan since the beginning of the 400 Unit.
Great interview, everyone had a good time. I get to see him play this Saturday here in Australia, rare treat. Totally agree on the U2
I backed up Jason Isbell back in the day when he was a singer songwriter around the Athens GA. Sadler always plays the perfect part with the perfect tone. Dipped in tone always has the coolest interview.
I remember those days!. You’re a great player, yourself. You also fixed an amp for me back then when I was broke and desperately needed that thing to gig. Appreciate you, man.
@@TheJP3 u r too kind. Glad I could help.
Great interview!
Best Dipped in Tone yet. Loved hearing Sadler's comments on road worth gear and if it would work on the road. This was great guys!
Sadler is really a great guy, super nice guest!
Great artist, wow, thanks guys
Oh, man, I think Jason & the 400 are just the best rock band doing it today. It's so real and the lyrics, melodies and musicality are the stuff that made me want to play when I was younger. And Sadler: OMG. So amazing. My wife got us great seats last April when you were in Jackson, MS. One of the best live shows I have ever seen - and the guitar sounds were so amazing. My 1st guitar was also a Harmony - and too many things at our house were from Fingerhut, btw!
Phewey, MAN.....all I know is rhythm guitar...man, that was a close one! Love you guys 😎
Mike Campbell is so underrated! Saw him with his band The Dirty Knobs in a Tampa dive bar last year. KILLER!
Everyone checkout the Morgan Wade album “Reckless”. I’m not typically a new country fan, but Sadler produced it, co-wrote some of the songs and played on it. Some really solid songs there… great catchy tunes.
So because of you clowns I bought both a Tube Screamer and a Blues Driver to see which one I liked better. It turns out that I like the Tube Screamer into the Blues Driver better than either one alone.
That's what John mayer likes best too
Me too!!!! Well I owned them already but that's how I use them when I use them!
Yep! They’re super cool together. Now put an unspecified pedal I will not name because it’s my secret weapon between them.
@@ryangunwitch-black if it's not an Earthquaker Rainbow Machine nobody is interested
I think my favorite pedal is still my BD2. Mine is old enough that I was able to get Analogman to mod it. It is also my favorite mod ever. I never quite got there with a TS - but it's me my amp, not the TS. That said: I am a huge SD1 fan and like that it's a bit more aggression and adore it blowing up the front of the BD2. If I have not given the Internet reasons to eye roll, I'll add: I still use a EHX Soul Food as a boost at the end of the chain (and I like its buffer on). So, what do I know!
For mythos youtube, famous circuit runthroughs! More techy, the better 🎉
Love the pod, btw. Keep it up! ❤
Awesome Vid!!
Sadler is so awesome.
Had an old Deluxe Memory Man back in the day, ungrounded plug, noisy as hell but sounded great and had the bonus of random electric shocks from crap electrical systems in dumpy bars. But you could always just filp the plug and change the polarity.
Saw U2 twice as you described.
Man, Sadler seems like the coolest guy
Saw him playing last summer at Wolf Trap. Jason Isbell was really great and awesome but Sadler was on fire in a total beast mode. His playing was fabulous, especially with slide. Hugely underappreciated dude, IMHO. Looks like it is finally changing.
I saw an original Nobels ODR-1 at the Indiana guitar show this past weekend for $2000. Not one Bad Monkey. Uncle Larry just proved the Klon is not worth the money on his latest OD test. Great Interview Sadler is such a tasteful player, Thanks!!
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Hello from Charleston, Sadler. Your old hometown hero status remains...
Vintage guitar in Oslo is such a cool store. Would recommend 100%
Great episode with one of my favorite guitarists. Can we get Laur Joamets next?
Massive British Rock Band doing it live with amps, lots of volume, proper guitar geekery…. Biffy Clyro!!
Beat me to it!
I used to go to DBT shows and seen 400 unit in all its iterations. Sadler slays and is my favorite of all the them. Oddly enough Browan Lollar is now with Saint Paul and the Broken Bones.
Harmony Guitars were made in Chicago until the late `70's as well was Kay Guitars. Radio Shack was the biggest supplier of electronics, etc until the mid 2000's. I remember my folks buying me a 12" speaker that I put in my 1961 Fender Princeton
Sadler is a fun interview! Gives me serious Luke Wilson vibes
While I'm not the biggest fan, Arctic Monkeys I think could be considered largest rock act coming out of Britain in the past couple decades. I mean several of the songs off their album AM (released in 2013) have over a billion plays on Spotify. They have an iconic attitude and distinct style too. Now they're going through that experimental phase and fell of the radar a little, but still...probably the closest thing to a huge British rock act like Oasis in recent times.
Joshua Tree Tour was incredible. Even with all the extra crap. But Jason Isbell is still one of my top 10 favorite shows. Saw them at the BOK in Tulsa a few years ago (it’s notorious for sounding terrible) but they sounded AMAZING. Sadler is incredible.
need a game night!!!
Optimus was what replaced Realistic as Radio Shack's store brand.
Action Music is in Falls Church, next door is CD Cellar, that has a lot of vinyl if you are into that sort of thing. Also there is a music venue nearby State Theater. Not too far from Wolf Trap
Sadler knows what’s up!
Bono and edge did a tiny desk concert on PBS this year
Action Music!! so good!
Man I love my bullet coily cable!
ive got the 3rd power british dream amp but mine was upgraded to the mk2 version,was sadlers? i bought the amp for the attenuater that was built in,and the vox side of the amp,but i quickly fell in love with the marshall side of the amp,which to me sounds like a vintage 60s nmv marshall jtm amp,the vox side is excellent also especially with a rangemaster type treble boost hitting it! i dont think i will ever sell this amp,ive had it for about 5 years!
The no 1 signature is a guilt hand wired klon klone. I have one. Everything Nordvang makes is full mayer vibe.
I had the og klon and Ts and never been able to bond with any of them! Couldnt stand the mids and bass cut…
I fell in love a long time ago with : Timmy/janray, nobels/shanks ods, bearfoot sparkling yellow od, and skreddy screwdriver.
Depending on the mood I just switch using 2 ods between these 4, and never stacks (stacked ods sounds/feel weird to me..
That said I am looking for a great od/distortion cause I miss having a sound with a lot more hair once in a while…
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You guys need to get the guitarist from “PudThumpers” sir Harry Palms! His rig is deliciously dipped in tone! I saw him at the Fist of fury festival in 22’ in Sweden
I went to see U2 once on Zoo TV tour or whatever that was and had to leave because it was all stage. Saw Prince many times being from Minneapolis.
man, I almost bought a '65 pacemaker from an antique mall a couple years back on tour, but I had to fly home, so that was kinda that unfortunately...
Longtime listener first-time commenter here I found this funny in the timing...I just finally broke down and bought a used tube screamer... it made a tired amp sound alive, but made a good amp sound kind of crappy however really does tighten up the lows and especially with single coils I kind of get it but I think it only works with other drives for me
Hahaha, Rhett, we look like we could be related!
Y'all are laughing at the namedrops Sadler is giving from the 80's. I'm 52yo & I remember the Radio Shack store brand OPTIMUS. And Fingerhut, you could buy anything from cigarette lighters to complete livingroom suites! And the best part, you'd make monthly payments of $5 for the next 15yrs lol
I think the cod idea should happen and be available for all of us... please:)
Could we also have a discussion about favourite routes to the supermarket in the next interview. Other suggestions: the correct usage a rawl plugs, and techniques for getting the most out of a depleted toothpaste tube.
Mythos needs a fully fledged video demo for the Olympus. The livestream was buggy and didn’t really represent the pedal well.
I'll work on that :)
@@DippedInTone Thank you. I am buying one tomorrow anyway. It looks like it will pair well with the Vertex Ultra Phonix and JHS Prestige Boost.
Sadler try a Kingsley page. I use it with a tweed deluxe type amp and a venuram shanks
The Wooly Coats amps are some of the best amps I've ever played. There used to be two of them at Eastside Music Supply about four years ago, and I'm still kicking myself for not buying one of them.
Opened for Drivin n Cryin many years ago- was an App State staple!!! I think we opened for them before he was with them, because I’m old and your guest is not.
Buy a tube screamer and use it as a mid boost if you have an old black face amp to bring mids back into the amp
I need someone to explain the Klon. I only found 1 sound. Strat SRV type thing, which explains the Mayer thing.
And just imagine sending that Memory man through TSA! Local shows only.
As the owner of that pedal... I've actually travelled with it a bunch over the 20 years I've owned it, flown across Canada, took it on cruise ships internationally... But I've got limited experience with TSA in the states, so maybe things would be different with them vs Canadian airlines? That said, yeah, the last few years it has been a "locally only" pedal for me - mostly because they are becoming so valuable! Believe it or not, I bought mine, back in the day, used for a mere $35!
The "rig" I had dipped was really my "local shows only" rig over all, with gear I love/am super comfortable with because I've played hundreds (maybe even thousands) of gigs with it and it has never let me down. But that stuff is showing its age too, so I do have other pedals that I'm more likely to take out if I'm going to be on the road for a while.
@@hughesp Awesome that you got it at that price. Sweet rig!
Into the digital shit 😂
IF you go tube screamer the cusack screamers are the best I've encountered. I see that as a tool more than an instrument, it's hard to criticize people's use of tools, over their stylistic decisions of an instrument which are fun to tease about. But if someone is saying man that tube screamer IS my sound, I internally roll my eyes.
I didn't really "get" it until a gig at a larger than normal space and I kept turning the cusack on to just not feel lost in the mix. Years later it was used on nearly every guitar track just because of its position in the mix and interaction with the amp.
MXR distortion 2 is my stylistic choice, best OD. Madebymike pedals UK. Check him out.
Did you forget about Arctic Monkeys? they are playing big stages . Just check the leeds and reading bands
I'm sorry but Sadler Vaden sounds like a badass Star Wars Character name.
Sadler is such a cool guy, opinionated but I prefer his straight up honest talk about bands and concert production or overproduction as it were. He backs up what he says because from the clips I have seen the 400 unit is a killer live band that knows how to play their instruments and get great sounds. U2 with little or no production just playing their songs would work because their songs are iconic. They did strip it down for their documentary on the Disney channel but what Sadler wants is a full rock show without all of the techno wizardry. I totally agree!!!! It would save the band and the fans some money. And there are no bands like Oasis that just go up and play their music with no theatrics and just own the stage. They were and still are the kings of that. There are a handful of really good bands out there but they either don’t rock hard enough or don’t have the songs. Oasis has all of it, like them or not. Go ahead and write a song like Wonderwall, Don’t Look Back In Anger, or Champagne Supernova. Even their B sides album is full of hits.
Cool board Rhett, I hope you take your seller out for at the very least, a balls to the walls, 5 star dining experience no holds bar,
Fingerhut ? I remember tht.
Rhythm guitar and a metronome.
I wanna hear more details on this Brexit can’t bring my amps thing. I mean, if I ever play over there I’ll just rent back line but still ….
I know, Sadler, I know.
Marcus King = tube screamer awesomeness
?Rhett- have u ever tried a Dunham Electronics Sexdrive? Think you’d dig it. Really!!
Oh snap. You found BrettSkull. 💀
I bought a gold Klon from Bill Finnegan in 1998. $325. I accidentally reversed the polarity on my pedalboard and blew it up. Bill sent me a new replacement chrome one for free. I just didn't see the big deal in it. I thought I did well selling it for what I paid for it. I preferred other pedals at the time. Still do, really. I don't get it.
Some gaming content from y’all would be fantastic!
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Keep bashing those Bigsby’s. The prices will stay within reason 😂. I have Bigsby’s on Many guitars. & they get well used. I have very little tuning instability. It’s all in the setup. I have more issues with my Strat than I ever have with any of my Bigsby loaded guitars.
As the person who's rig got dipped in this episode - I'd say the same. It DID take time to figure out the setup kinks, but it is rock solid now. I've had strats, jazzmasters, etc and none of them have stayed in tune as well. The trick is making sure there's no friction points, the nut is cut well, the bridge slots filed slightly more round / wide (like being setup for a high gauge of strings), and then using nut sauce. I also have a faber bridge on there which doesn't have any play/doesn't rock (where as the original nashville would have not worked well with the bigsby) Oh, and making sure to really stretch out the strings! There's lots of places one can go wrong, but one it is worked out, it works REALLY well. And, as Rhett suggested, it makes the guitar more balanced on an SG! I've heard (but not experienced) worse tuning problems with a Lyre, so I think I'd stick with the Bigsby!
@@hughesp cool! As far as restringing goes(I’m sure you know this), grab the ball end & bend the string around your finger. It should go right on the peg & string up as easy as any other system.
@@whenvioletsturngrey9597 I use a set of needle nose pliers to pre-bend, but yeah, same idea!
lol! Joey is scared of the octave... hahahaha!
Well, at least Zach got the Klon tax deduction (assuming there was income to offset)
When the talk turned to Oasis I had to check the date to make sure that it wasn't the 1st. I had this odd feeling like I was being punked.
Man you’re crazy Noel is one of the greatest songwriters ever.
Brexit… yes… trying living with it everyday!!! 😫 keep up the good work lads! 👊🏻
Is it my poor eyesight or is that a 10-string behind Sadler?
Bukavac said he hates a Tube Screamer too, so ....
So it must be correct then if he said it.
I saw U2 in 1987...they rocked 80,000 people with ZERO production. Not even colored lights.
I will subscribe to your guys Patreon if you guys play video games 😂
Z,
Time to explain the difference between a power supply transformer in a pedal and a signal transformer.
I mean, a transformer is a transformer, it's just understanding the whole idea of impedance, ratios, and application.
A power supply transformer (particularly for a pedal) is at a ratio to bring the input voltage down - for example, in a deluxe memory man, bringing the voltage from 120V on one side down to the internal voltage of the pedal (I think 24V in that pedal). So you have a ratio of 5:1. You also need to make sure that said transformer can handle the voltage and current draw of the application.
For a signal transformer, you are talking about the audio signal passing through instead of the power. Most of the time, this is about changing the impendence/resistance of part of the circuit, OR, simply about isolating the signal electronically. So an audio transformer may even have a ratio of 1:1, if it is just about isolation.
You should sell your game console and TV, its a step in the right direction to become a better guitar player
rhetts checked out; time for a replacement