Official Announcement: George R.R. Martin Reveals A Major Update About House of the Dragon's Ending!

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  • @TheKhal22
    @TheKhal22 2 місяці тому +1146

    Crazy how they shortened the season for the sake of “pacing” only for the pacing this season to be worse than the first season

    • @MADGUNSMONSTER
      @MADGUNSMONSTER 2 місяці тому +107

      I try not to complain about the show, but yes, the pacing seems off.

    • @skoolboydes6680
      @skoolboydes6680 2 місяці тому +130

      people really jus be yapping this season is paced way better than the first

    • @johnpaul9599
      @johnpaul9599 2 місяці тому +74

      2 BIG REASONS that this season was garbage . 1. The writers guild strike ,They were not allowed to rewrite the scripts, so they had to film the scenes as they were written without the possibility of any changes. 2 the departure of Saphochnik from writing and direction was a HUUGE blow to the quality of the show. Condall and Hess are the NEW D/D they destroyed the lore of the books this season , House of the dragon season 2 is on par with the awfulness of Got s8, for me theres no comeback from this ,they changed and altered sooo much from the lore that this show is not "based" on the books but more like "inspired", this season was on par of the awfulness of woke shows like The rings of powers a total shame.

    • @mattsavage9960
      @mattsavage9960 2 місяці тому +50

      But people forget that this doesn't have a massive budget like rings of power but with less than 20% of the rings of power budget they have managed to make a show that's far far far better than rings of power. And no matter what they did for HOTD people will moan and others will jump on that band wagon. When this is still the best thing currently on TV and is doing it all on a very limited budget, I hope they get a massive budget increase, if they had a billion like rings of power imagine what it would be like. Either way no matter what internet trolls and idiots that know nothing about the industry say, this is a fantastic program and far far better than anything else on with a small budget for such a massive show. Every dragon scene costs millions, people don't understand how hard it is to get right. That vermithor scene was absolutely top notch, that scene alone probably cost more than episode 5 or 6 in its entirety.

    • @aaa3d473
      @aaa3d473 2 місяці тому +1

      @@skoolboydes6680no shot.

  • @jaybird8192
    @jaybird8192 2 місяці тому +206

    Understandable that all the dragon scenes take up a lot of the budget, and the writers and production team may be exhausted with such a high scale TV production. But please, don't try and sell us on: "The season or pacing is better with less episodes"!

    • @OpeningsOpenings
      @OpeningsOpenings 2 місяці тому +1

      right!!!

    • @frozello14
      @frozello14 2 місяці тому +2

      Well it's matter of opinion, if 60mins x8 or 50mins x10 is better? Give or take few minutes either way in each episodes.

    • @normanbroadway8220
      @normanbroadway8220 2 місяці тому

      Put $ in get $ out. Give the ppl what they want.. I believe they don’t have what they need. If they did they wouls

    • @itspronouncednikolaj333
      @itspronouncednikolaj333 2 місяці тому +1

      Then they shouldn’t have done it

    • @robprice3622
      @robprice3622 2 місяці тому +1

      Disappointed with the ending again they always leave you on a cliff so much filler

  • @bigmanfoundlove
    @bigmanfoundlove 2 місяці тому +558

    I actually dont care how long it takes to be honest. I want them to do justice, to show all the battles and not change the actual plot

    • @yeol174
      @yeol174 2 місяці тому +11

      Same!!! But people sadly lack the patience…

    • @Rchigo
      @Rchigo 2 місяці тому +39

      They already changed lots of things

    • @THOU713
      @THOU713 2 місяці тому +36

      Too late they lost the plot

    • @StinkyGreenBud
      @StinkyGreenBud 2 місяці тому +33

      They already did the show with injustice with this season. So much filler bullshit.

    • @Reils223
      @Reils223 2 місяці тому +5

      Just follow the damn book..

  • @shannonthompson4058
    @shannonthompson4058 2 місяці тому +328

    They should've started at the beginning of the book, that would've guaranteed many seasons

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  2 місяці тому +102

      I would have also preferred them to do the Targaryen history in order.

    • @rocker76m88
      @rocker76m88 2 місяці тому +12

      Would definitely had made more sense

    • @missym877
      @missym877 2 місяці тому +15

      @@TalkingThronesexactly! Tbh, there is no need for 3 seasons of HOTDx let alone 5 seasons.

    • @shannonthompson4058
      @shannonthompson4058 2 місяці тому +11

      That would have made more sense, i wouldve like to have seen Agon I conquering the 7 kingdoms ​@@TalkingThrones

    • @zeeuus07
      @zeeuus07 2 місяці тому

      @@shannonthompson4058it would be cool but idk if creatively they would’ve been able to make it into film but it would’ve been awesome

  • @jrcardoso2853
    @jrcardoso2853 2 місяці тому +105

    Honestly id rather see the fall of valyria before aegons conquest. would be super cool to see the other more powerful dragon lords. plus some of them would give birth to children that looked like dragons. soooo much magic in valyria

    • @cherylbaxter8986
      @cherylbaxter8986 2 місяці тому +8

      Can you imagine how much that will cost all those dragons like a 300 to 1000 all the beautiful buildings I really want to see a show about Old Valyria but there's not much information on it but with good writer's can be done

    • @noturbusiness9736
      @noturbusiness9736 2 місяці тому +4

      I’d like to see it as well, but on the other hand I like the mystique of it too.

    • @Sylla402
      @Sylla402 2 місяці тому +2

      That would be hella expensive if they're to stick with the quality they've been delivering in this Universe so far.
      Aegon's Conquest, I can't wait for that.

    • @sheep3370
      @sheep3370 2 місяці тому +1

      I'd rather not. That's something better left to imagination

    • @carlrood4457
      @carlrood4457 2 місяці тому +2

      I'd just like a couple of questions answered. It seems highly unlikely that every dragon rider and dragon were at home when Valyria blew up. They had a huge empire and they traded with Essos and Westeros to the point they'd set up an outpost on Dragonstone. Was it spawning season or something?
      Also, why don't the Targaryens seem to know anything about how dragons actually work? Why didn't they bring any smiths who know how to make Valyrian steel?

  • @TheSlowLos
    @TheSlowLos 2 місяці тому +55

    Maybe George should focus on finishing his book first 😴

    • @erocgittens5962
      @erocgittens5962 2 місяці тому +1

      Agree. Ill be on my 60th name day before its done. Atp ill be telling my grandchildren about the story of a great author who couldny finish his greatest work so he spent most of his time prevaricating and working on side projects 🙄🙄🙄

    • @Janellabelle
      @Janellabelle 2 місяці тому

      Lol that man is 75 years old and morbidly obese. I hate it, but he is not gonna ever finish that book. Unless he's already finished it and wants to release it upon his death.

  • @MarcusM334
    @MarcusM334 2 місяці тому +125

    Damn what he is talking about..Finish the freaking books!!

    • @luckyadrian100
      @luckyadrian100 2 місяці тому

      The preview has out has not it?

    • @satwik14
      @satwik14 2 місяці тому +3

      I think it will release on his death

    • @Rodrigo-n4o
      @Rodrigo-n4o 2 місяці тому +2

      @@luckyadrian100 what are you trying to say? 🥴

    • @luckyadrian100
      @luckyadrian100 2 місяці тому

      @@Rodrigo-n4o I think that is the indication that the book definetly comin up

    • @Allemande891
      @Allemande891 2 місяці тому +2

      Pleaaaase, no one is talking about this. All i see is complains about the series and how much he dont like the changes... finish the damn books SIR

  • @SpaceTravel1776
    @SpaceTravel1776 2 місяці тому +133

    Starting to think they should have only gone 2-3 seasons for HoT D.

    • @missym877
      @missym877 2 місяці тому +26

      It should have been ONE season, done as a mini series. There is literally no reason for 3 seasons let alone 5, considering the story material is incredibly short compared ASOIF. A 12 episode 1 hour long mini series would have been perfect.
      There’s just way too much unnecessary scenes-like multiple episodes of daemon losing his mind in harrenhal. We get it, he feels remorse, but we don’t need 4 episodes to drive that point home. And we don’t need multiple episodes of Rhaenyra moping about. Or Aemond (my fave) just brooding around.

    • @haikelareff
      @haikelareff 2 місяці тому

      @@missym877 hmm so when denearys burn kings landing people said it need more episode for her going mad..jezz calm your tits.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 2 місяці тому +4

      Did you not pay attention? They couldn't AFFORD to do more than 2 major battle/CGI scenes a season. If it was only 2/3 seasons they'd have to skip basically everything, and then you lot would complain about that lmfao.

    • @Buttcakes15
      @Buttcakes15 2 місяці тому

      @@Red1Green2Blue3 exactly! If they shortened it like these guys want then character and story would have to take a backseat to spectacle. That’s why the ending of GOT was so bad.

    • @fidalf99
      @fidalf99 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@missym877that would be nonsensical. People have complaimed even in first season that the time skips are confusing, imagine if they fit the whole of Dance into just one season.

  • @akireodd
    @akireodd 2 місяці тому +110

    They are already stretching it too much. As a result, the dialogue is stale, too much scenery and filming of random shadows and corners of halls and not enough storyline. Don't let me start on the extended pauses between each sentence to stretch the show to an hour.
    They already have cut out/altered important scenes and characters.

    • @Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ
      @Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ 2 місяці тому +15

      My issue is that the dialogue is weak a lot of the times.

    • @shoazdon7000
      @shoazdon7000 2 місяці тому +2

      I didn’t notice the pauses but I am probably going to start noticing 😂

    • @Xherbal0sprey
      @Xherbal0sprey 2 місяці тому +6

      rhaenyra has said the same thing over and over again

  • @leoferwer1813
    @leoferwer1813 2 місяці тому +260

    5 seasons... so 2030... idk if I'll still be alive by that time.
    Time to move on, I guess.

    • @branislavokic652
      @branislavokic652 2 місяці тому +3

      Yea hahahah

    • @Jpee817
      @Jpee817 2 місяці тому +12

      This is exactly how I feel. Lol

    • @hollow5172
      @hollow5172 2 місяці тому

      byebye, nobody will miss ur nagging and complaining

    • @MatthewTheWanderer
      @MatthewTheWanderer 2 місяці тому +43

      How old are you, 90? Are you dying now? I HATE this kind of negativity!

    • @victordiaz1273
      @victordiaz1273 2 місяці тому +8

      you'll be fine. It'll be in 2030 in a blink of an eye.

  • @evafleury5538
    @evafleury5538 2 місяці тому +102

    I hope we don't have to wait till 2026 to watch season 3... I love the pacing of the episodes, but it was such a long wait for these 8 episodes.

    • @MarcosSantos-dj6lk
      @MarcosSantos-dj6lk 2 місяці тому +6

      is gonna be in 2026 but early probably april

    • @JohnnyPryce
      @JohnnyPryce 2 місяці тому +8

      It's looking this way again

    • @the600squad6
      @the600squad6 2 місяці тому +5

      yea but imagine watching all 4 seasons or 5 of HotD back to back without waiting i dont think people would complain this much

    • @jrcardoso2853
      @jrcardoso2853 2 місяці тому +3

      sucks but we are waiting till 2026, bummer

    • @RedRoseSeptember22
      @RedRoseSeptember22 2 місяці тому +7

      Most likely but at least we'll have A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms to watch :3

  • @acs7167
    @acs7167 2 місяці тому +73

    Can't wait for the shitstorm about to come once episode 8 airs

    • @wimgeuens8433
      @wimgeuens8433 2 місяці тому +3

      Tears are coming.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 2 місяці тому +5

      It'll only be an itnernet-nerd thing, Like Meleys in S1

    • @Thrashyourhead
      @Thrashyourhead 2 місяці тому

      What you mean? Does something bad and unexpected happen tonight? Please don't spoil it

    • @acs7167
      @acs7167 2 місяці тому

      @@Red1Green2Blue3 yea it is every time but you lose your hardcore fans and only the normies are left then that's a series on owed time but yea to save it they literally need to fire Ryan condom and Sara mess

    • @alhera674
      @alhera674 2 місяці тому +11

      Nothing happened in the last episode lol

  • @Traffalger
    @Traffalger 2 місяці тому +10

    I'm sorry but 8 episodes isn't a "season". Especially when "seasons" take two YEARS plus, to produce.

  • @risithmarshall8654
    @risithmarshall8654 2 місяці тому +3

    You're very optimistic, I respect that

  • @mocarpenter8836
    @mocarpenter8836 2 місяці тому +57

    It's not that I don't like season 2. I just can't handle all the Damon Dreamscape stuff all the time!! Like 4 flippen episodes for the gods eye sake!!

    • @AstariaDayne
      @AstariaDayne 2 місяці тому +4

      Yeah, I get what you mean, but I loved seeing Milly & Paddy again.

    • @Jmetz22
      @Jmetz22 2 місяці тому

      @@AstariaDaynewth you're a targeryen!

    • @TMish73829
      @TMish73829 2 місяці тому +3

      @@AstariaDaynethem coming back was awesome. They were the two stand outs of season 1. I feel they could have done a single capsule episode for Daemon and it would have landed sooo much better.

    • @gingeranagram2467
      @gingeranagram2467 2 місяці тому

      ​@Asdfghkdhhdj
      If you think it served no purpose, you're a literal moron with a child's understanding of character development

    • @carlrood4457
      @carlrood4457 2 місяці тому +1

      It was kind of a case of giving him something to do while not actually doing anything. The books can cover months in a few sentences because it's a historical outline. He went to Harrenhal, then a bunch of other stuff happened to everyone else, and he met up with them later.

  • @acountryboysopinion6001
    @acountryboysopinion6001 2 місяці тому +30

    George also said that D & D could've got 11 - 13 Seasons of the Original G.O.T. Series from the Book Material. But, D & D only got 4 Seasons. They ignored a lot of GOOD stories from the Book Material in the Original Series. The "Lady Stoneheart"(Catlin Stark) Storyline, is one example.

    • @lip4973
      @lip4973 2 місяці тому +7

      Aegon Targaryen, Victarion and Euron Greyjoy, the Dornish plot, Stannis, Pink letter.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 2 місяці тому +7

      Who cares what GRRM says? It's now what? 5 years out from the end of S8. Even if we'd got 13 seasons (today) we'd still be at the end without tWoW completed so its irrelevant. GRRM hasn't even got to the middle of "Lady Stonehearts" narrative journey himself!!

    • @Allemande891
      @Allemande891 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Red1Green2Blue3 You speak with the truth my friend. GRRM has to stop complaining and finish the books.

  • @mikajlod25
    @mikajlod25 2 місяці тому

    It should have been an animated show, I wish they would stop trying to make it live action! Live action is so over-rated! You see what they have to do to make it work, they have to cut and cut and cut, and adapt every little thing. None of that would be necessary if it was just a animated show. Come on! HBO just wants a spectacle, they don't care about the story!

  • @andrewspencer5287
    @andrewspencer5287 2 місяці тому +77

    This is crazy with 2 years in between seasons. 10 years to release only 5 seasons, not cool, they are not doing the fans justice. By this point in time for GOT we got 3 satisfying seasons and they were already filming the fourth. Idk what changed and I know they had to strike but enough is enough, they gotta pull their heads outta their asses at HBO.

    • @rocker76m88
      @rocker76m88 2 місяці тому +17

      Agreed. I don't understand the long gaps between the seasons. GoT had more actors and story lines and they still managed to come out with more episodes faster. Very frustrating

    • @tvojemanka
      @tvojemanka 2 місяці тому +1

      What changed ? GoT was cheap to shoot, only like 1 or 2 huge battles in first 4 seasons and only 3 dragons with only Drogon being on screen usually. It's that simple.

    • @jos_targaryen
      @jos_targaryen 2 місяці тому +3

      the thing about the strikes is that season 2 was already written and ready to film, the actors from HOTD were NOT SAGAFTRA because they’re unionized by a different group that’s exclusive to Europe. the rule is that the European actors guild/union can still shoot if the US actors guild/union is striking because they’re not the same and they’re not connected. the dragon CGI is also an unhinged amount of expensive so it’s very unlikely HBO is going to greenlight all of the important parts without a guarantee of monetary return, which was their downfall because they’re going to lose it all because of the s2 finale. so many people are abandoning the show because it’s clearly not doing the book justice and GRRM has expressed his dislike of that.

    • @jos_targaryen
      @jos_targaryen 2 місяці тому +3

      @@tvojemankaGOT had 3 dragons with the same CGI structure with very few major CGI battles versus a show 100% based off of dragons and battles, the budget isn’t the same at all because the need is bigger and HBO is probably scared to give that huge budget GOT had after they tanked the last few seasons.

    • @suckthehead1
      @suckthehead1 2 місяці тому

      We only waited a year for HOD S2

  • @hee-yoonkang1466
    @hee-yoonkang1466 2 місяці тому +29

    i did notice s2 was a bit off but i brushed it off that it might be just me problem.... glad im not the only one

    • @Buttcakes15
      @Buttcakes15 2 місяці тому

      What’s off about it exactly? I don’t see it.

    • @midnightblackroses
      @midnightblackroses 2 місяці тому

      There's plenty complaining season 2 is bad

    • @Buttcakes15
      @Buttcakes15 2 місяці тому

      @@midnightblackroses that’s insane to call season 2 bad

    • @DAN420.
      @DAN420. 2 місяці тому

      Nice grammar. Get educated.

  • @Axemantitan
    @Axemantitan 2 місяці тому +17

    How about A Song of Ice and Fire's ending? Or even just The Winds of Winter?

    • @matthewmarshall349
      @matthewmarshall349 2 місяці тому +2

      He doesn't know how to stick the landing, so he'll keep doing side projects until he dies.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 2 місяці тому +3

      @@matthewmarshall349 No, he's just not writing because he doesn't have to pay bills with books anymore.

  • @capricovington4164
    @capricovington4164 2 місяці тому +66

    idk why but hearing " seasons ending " kinda pissed me off i love this damn show and just wanna see more targaryen history

    • @rpgadventurer32
      @rpgadventurer32 2 місяці тому +3

      They need to fix the ending of GOT, the rest is not going to mean anything without fixing what happened in that final season.

    • @Tasbid10
      @Tasbid10 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@rpgadventurer32GOT ending can't be fix, it has been too late now. I think they should remake GOT after GRRM finishes his books

    • @Jenna_lyn515
      @Jenna_lyn515 2 місяці тому

      The season ending episode pissed me off lol

  • @juliettek.9440
    @juliettek.9440 2 місяці тому +13

    I personally don’t want to see more than one majors battle per season. Give the writers time to put it together, but give the characters time to anticipate what’s happening. Let it all come to a head. Early GOT was like a tapestry. Everybody and their stories a thread that would eventually weave in and out of someone else’s story. Let’s do that here.

    • @juliettek.9440
      @juliettek.9440 2 місяці тому +4

      @Asdfghkdhhdj This season wasn’t as good as season 1 but they have plenty of time to redeem themselves.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 2 місяці тому +3

      That's you personally. so many people have been whining all season that they're watching to see dragons fight and there's not been enough of it. You can't please everyone.

    • @juliettek.9440
      @juliettek.9440 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Red1Green2Blue3 that’s also true it’s a compromise for sure. The whole Daemon nonsense got old quick, it was our character and just dragged on. That being said if we had all the dragons fighting in seasons 1 and 2 but everyone wants 5 or 6 seasons than what are we doing? No we can’t please everyone but at the same time a little logic and common sense. Everyone from GOT hated the lack of build up in the decline. We can’t then say “there’s not enough action and to much talking.” Like we can’t have it both ways.

  • @deman817
    @deman817 2 місяці тому +35

    Re watching X files right now and loving season 1... we are on episode 18. Don't tell me that less episodes makes for a better season

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite 2 місяці тому +8

      Yeah, seasons used to be like 26 episode

    • @deman817
      @deman817 2 місяці тому +4

      @@post-leftluddite exactly, it's was the story we loved, not the visual effects

    • @dmahar0224
      @dmahar0224 2 місяці тому +3

      It seems that’s all I do is rewatch great old shows. My biggest complaint is writers.
      They go on strike and what we get is NOT GOOD! It seems I’m constantly being left, wondering
      WTH!

    • @SonderDAzeX
      @SonderDAzeX 2 місяці тому

      How long are the episodes?

    • @deman817
      @deman817 2 місяці тому

      @@SonderDAzeX 1 hour

  • @dragonslayerthegod9284
    @dragonslayerthegod9284 2 місяці тому +13

    Bro , forget all this, HOW is Winds still not out??? 😂

  • @isnagfn2257
    @isnagfn2257 2 місяці тому +45

    Unlike GOT there's not really any good characters to like or root for, not enough depth into characters, which is what made GOT so good!

    • @cursedbythedevil8171
      @cursedbythedevil8171 2 місяці тому +4

      No, i would work if the writers would portrait both sites as bad, but they trying to justify the blacks decisions… It would work if the all characters would show humanity a couple of times while they’re killing each other

    • @SeedKreations
      @SeedKreations 2 місяці тому +1

      agreeeeeee!

    • @arandomchannel56
      @arandomchannel56 2 місяці тому +4

      Agreed. This is just an average show, does not even come close to the level of GOT. GOT s1-4 is out of this world. Hope that George finishes his books soon, and hope they remake the last 3-4 seasons of GOT

  • @my2randomcents
    @my2randomcents 2 місяці тому +15

    My dude, the ending leaked
    this season 2 is GOT S7 levels of bad
    And I hate that people defend it on"but dragon battles". That's exactly the key jangling that brought GOT down, dialogue is clumsy and unwitty, characters are one note and the narrative is just gone downhill

  • @dellcoc
    @dellcoc 2 місяці тому +5

    Season 2 seemed like they wasted tons of time on nothing.

  • @RedRoseSeptember22
    @RedRoseSeptember22 2 місяці тому +152

    I'm not waiting 2 years between each season...c'mon HBO.

    • @captainnutsack8151
      @captainnutsack8151 2 місяці тому +18

      Literally every series has a two year wait. GOT was never a 1 year wait between seasons.

    • @Carbonatedballsack
      @Carbonatedballsack 2 місяці тому +13

      Its better than half assing the season like yearly games/shows, but the ending of GOT still sucked

    • @missym877
      @missym877 2 місяці тому +8

      This is exactly what killed Westworld.

    • @DS_Prince
      @DS_Prince 2 місяці тому +53

      ​@@captainnutsack8151 Season 1 - 2011
      Season 2 - 2012
      Season 3 - 2013
      Season 4 - 2014
      Season 5 - 2015
      Season 6 - 2016
      Season 7 - 2017
      Season 8 - 2019
      That's literally 1 year between every GOT season except the last one??

    • @raemontargaryen3005
      @raemontargaryen3005 2 місяці тому +20

      @@captainnutsack8151 new fan eh? got was annual until season 7

  • @skylar51
    @skylar51 2 місяці тому +11

    George needs to hand off the writing of all the asoif books and be a consultant to a writer he could trust because he’s too occupied with the tv series to finish just one book ! He needs to be expanding as much lore as he can he’s not getting any younger!

    • @matthewmarshall349
      @matthewmarshall349 2 місяці тому +2

      At this point, the distractions are intentional.

    • @commiehunter733
      @commiehunter733 2 місяці тому

      D&D ruined got and George doesn't want to fix it.... its obvious at this point

  • @tonelamont1498
    @tonelamont1498 2 місяці тому +3

    This season has been great. It's like watching the opening moves of a chess match between 2 players delaying the inevitability of taking pieces off the board and having to sacrifice their own in the process. I know everyone wants violent action packed and thrilling episodes with shocking deaths but that is feckless, ill considered, trifling. 😂 I just hope we're not forced to wait more than 16 months for season 3

  • @jdh5224
    @jdh5224 2 місяці тому +9

    Budget? Why didn't they do a battle that actually matters and that'll move the plot forward instead of doing an expensive nonsensical CG dragon chase scene/girlboss dragon face off for fan service? Doesn't make sense.

  • @carolbriscoe9337
    @carolbriscoe9337 2 місяці тому +5

    Even with the cost of the battles, the show should still be complete in 4 seasons. Unless Ryan creates arcs (like Daemon's arc this season?) to extend the show to 5 seasons. Does that mean a new season every 2 years? That is also unacceptable, especially as GOT managed to appear every April till season 8. And a full 10 episodes. And there were battles as well.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 2 місяці тому +3

      @Asdfghkdhhdj and SIGNIFICANTLY less CGI which is what makes these seasons take so long. As soon as CGI became a huge element (S7 & S8) production time ballooned. What's ironic is so many people have been complaining about not enough dragon fighting. More dragon battles will mean longer production times and less episodes due to cost.

  • @rc_car_adventours
    @rc_car_adventours 2 місяці тому +24

    they could have shortened more of Daemons hallucinations for "pacing" 😂

    • @Blankjayr8181
      @Blankjayr8181 2 місяці тому

      😂😂

    • @Grewyn7
      @Grewyn7 2 місяці тому +2

      These hallucinations are actually an insanely important lore reveal about harrenhall/weirwoods.
      You should watch some Michael Talks About Stuff discussions about this.

    • @tvojemanka
      @tvojemanka 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Grewyn7exactly, this fan base is so spoiled. Complaining about everything, without a single deeper though why it may be.

  • @angelofbliss
    @angelofbliss 2 місяці тому +37

    i get the feeling the co producer just cut costs by 2 episodes to gain a year end bonus.

    • @jonathan0225
      @jonathan0225 2 місяці тому +6

      maybe. However, you gotta understand the logistical hoops they went thru this season to make some things happen (non-verbatim from one of the past documentaries). those increased costs. easy for us viewers to nitpick without insider knowledge. you cant just spend infinitely and go above budget.thats how you get terminated.

    • @Mr.PepeSilvia
      @Mr.PepeSilvia 2 місяці тому +4

      Yeah I'm sick of people doing record short seasons with record time off in between seasons (on top of record high salaries). It's been every show since COVID.

    • @jonathan0225
      @jonathan0225 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Mr.PepeSilvia it is what it is 🤷 .tv landscape changed drastically since streaming services.

    • @Mr.PepeSilvia
      @Mr.PepeSilvia 2 місяці тому +3

      @@jonathan0225 you're absolutely right but I'm still mad at no one in particular lol

    • @Mr.PepeSilvia
      @Mr.PepeSilvia 2 місяці тому +2

      House makes more sense than most

  • @mori1bund
    @mori1bund 2 місяці тому +5

    I doubt that *only 8 episodes* was a "creative decision" done by the showrunner.
    Nowadays every streamer forces their shows to have less and less episodes, because "number of people who watched a complete season until the end" is an important factor for their ratings of shows, and of course more people finish a season when there are less episodes. ^^
    Soon we gonna have three-episode seasons... 😂🤣🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

  • @bouji_
    @bouji_ 2 місяці тому +12

    I'm not sure what made GRRM think they needed 40 episodes to do HOTD. It does make me think that he gave up on trying to finish TWOW though.

    • @chiragpatankar2013
      @chiragpatankar2013 2 місяці тому +7

      don't hope for TWOW. That's gone. We're never going to get that

    • @gingeranagram2467
      @gingeranagram2467 2 місяці тому +1

      Obviously. It's been over a decade

    • @arisucheddar3097
      @arisucheddar3097 2 місяці тому

      You could do 40 episodes. Jace does an awful lot more. There are battles and characters they're cutting (and not necessarily the big budget ones). There are many places affected by this war, though you wouldn't know it watching the series. Helaena does more than look tragic and give out prophecies.

  • @Dr.Baymax-iu2dd
    @Dr.Baymax-iu2dd 2 місяці тому +3

    We got a 1 hour long trailer of season 3.

  • @windsweptjoe442
    @windsweptjoe442 2 місяці тому +2

    House of the dragon will end before Winds of winter comes out...

  • @DoubleA012
    @DoubleA012 2 місяці тому +1

    As of today it was confirmed by the creator that House of the Dragons will be ending after 4 seasons. The amount of episodes for the next two seasons wasn’t mentioned.

  • @Eric-xs7ks
    @Eric-xs7ks 2 місяці тому +3

    This season’s been awesome. Sucks it’s only eight episodes tho

  • @Onlyhuman254
    @Onlyhuman254 2 місяці тому +1

    Waiting for years for the story to unfold isn't working for me. I think the series would have been better suited to 2 seasons with more episodes.

  • @thanosss4673
    @thanosss4673 2 місяці тому +1

    Caraxes prefers pigs instead of sheep. All other dragons prefer sheep. And that was wholesome, if you know, you know.

  • @dwaynelepley1103
    @dwaynelepley1103 2 місяці тому +2

    We need some good battles that they had in the original. It’s missed the mark on battles that last pretty much the episode . The Watchers on the Wall & The Battle of the Bastards were some of the best Choreographed battles I’ve ever seen on screen in a fantasy show.

    • @jackodriscoll3817
      @jackodriscoll3817 2 місяці тому

      You can thank the departure of Miguel Sapochnik for that one. I feel exactly the same.

    • @arisucheddar3097
      @arisucheddar3097 2 місяці тому

      They don't even have to be high action battles. Some events in HotD are just spooky as described. But I think at this point Butchers Ball will be altered. Battles will be shuffled around in the timeline. They may even make a "fan favorite" or two survive for no logical reason.
      My expectations are subverted and shaken, and not in a good way.

    • @dwaynelepley1103
      @dwaynelepley1103 2 місяці тому

      @@arisucheddar3097 your explanations were dead on I would say. Probably one of the worst finales as far as action in any good series to date.

  • @jazminhs_1994
    @jazminhs_1994 2 місяці тому +1

    Honestly I’m not ready to think about house of the dragon ending I’m so attached but I realize it’s inevitable as is the plot line but I’m gonna cherish every moment of it

  • @AstariaDayne
    @AstariaDayne 2 місяці тому

    Damn! Saw the thumbnail and got hyped George made a TWOW book release announcement, cuz the title didnt fully show. Ive said before, I honestly feel you will be one of the first with that crucial announcement. 😊

  • @Jjrdn10
    @Jjrdn10 2 місяці тому +1

    What is the name of the 3rd show that you referred to as another spinoff. Will we manage to see 40 episodes. Especially when I hear that they will only have 3 seasons

  • @ZeldasMask
    @ZeldasMask 2 місяці тому +1

    Problem is, I don’t really care about any of the characters

  • @TroubleMaker67
    @TroubleMaker67 2 місяці тому +3

    I hope George is actually working on WOW 😭😭😭

  • @luckyadrian100
    @luckyadrian100 2 місяці тому +1

    I got what you feel and I won't denied that but I still really appreciate HBO. No other could have gone far for this TV format as solid as movie adatation

  • @seagullkiller3
    @seagullkiller3 2 місяці тому

    I dont want the pacing to be rushed, i like having a show like this to watch :P

  • @rjay1725
    @rjay1725 2 місяці тому +1

    I just really hope they include Treason at Bitterbridge with Daeron Hugh and Ulf some point next season I believe that’s a pivotal part of the dance of dragons especially with them ending this season with the red sowing and riots in kings landing they should also keep the gold cloaks aiding daemon and rhaenyra in taking kings landing

  • @ScarlitWidow
    @ScarlitWidow 2 місяці тому

    I'm thinking the "go with the gods" statement is more of a blessing when that's all they can afford to do for whatever story point being discussed.

  • @williamfryer8460
    @williamfryer8460 2 місяці тому

    They having Rhaenyra, Alicent, and random boats constantly going back and forth between them ruins the ultimate moment in this show that we’re supposed to get.

  • @tifferzturner
    @tifferzturner 2 місяці тому +2

    They need to make season 3 , 10-12 episodes to give us the full story . Shortening the season doesn’t do it any good at all & they need to stop deferring from the book so much .. what’s the point of doing a series if you’re not going to do it right ? Daemon’s character was wasted this whole season I think too .. he didn’t need to be at Harrenhal that whole time .. especially if they’re going to only give us 8 episodes 🤷🏻‍♀️.. you shorten the season then get to the main point of the season .. we could’ve got to see the battle of the gullet & the taking of kings landing .

  • @furkanbozdag8198
    @furkanbozdag8198 2 місяці тому +17

    When will he finnish his books

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite 2 місяці тому +15

      Never...it's best you accept that and move on. I have and it honestly has been for the better.

    • @furkanbozdag8198
      @furkanbozdag8198 2 місяці тому

      @DagwoodDogwoggle but mate he would know that he hurts his fans with that who are still eagerly waiting. it is just not fair

    • @deborahwilliams1036
      @deborahwilliams1036 2 місяці тому +5

      I think the tv shows have knocked his confidence , that's why he's rewrote chapters , I think he's tied himself in knots

    • @furkanbozdag8198
      @furkanbozdag8198 2 місяці тому

      @@deborahwilliams1036 yeah sounds about right hope he does make some chapters better

    • @bouji_
      @bouji_ 2 місяці тому +3

      It's starting to look like never.

  • @trentmitchell3496
    @trentmitchell3496 2 місяці тому

    I loved the slow pace honestly

  • @batgurrl
    @batgurrl 2 місяці тому +1

    I never read the books so that aspect doesn’t intrigue me. I do not imagine it going for five seasons. I find it often hard to follow, too slow, confusing about who is killing who and who is having sex with who

  • @captain1jones354
    @captain1jones354 2 місяці тому

    I imagine doing a show like this can be exhausting for everyone involved. So having shorter sessions can prevent people from getting burned out.

  • @CodyNicholson-gh6pi
    @CodyNicholson-gh6pi 2 місяці тому

    They should hire talking thrones guy…. Theoretical final season of a song of ice and fire was legit. Top tier.

  • @skyz6708
    @skyz6708 2 місяці тому +2

    Idk why people are freaking out about 2 years between seasons, Breaking Bad final season had a 2 year gap, so did Game of Thrones season 8 (2 year gap for 6 episodes????).
    Stranger Things had nearly 2 years between season 2 and 3, as well as a 3 year gap for season 4.
    Rings of Power also had a 2 year gap between seasons.
    Season 3 HOTD is going to have some massive battles in it, with multiple full grown CGI dragons, the first 4 seasons of GOT had like 1 or 2 medium sized battles? Even Robbs war against the Lannisters had no screen time. I'd rather they take their time so we get some quality content, HBO dragons are without a doubt the best looking thing CGI has ever produced.

    • @gingeranagram2467
      @gingeranagram2467 2 місяці тому

      We all agree 2 years is absurd - regardless of which show it is

    • @arisucheddar3097
      @arisucheddar3097 2 місяці тому

      Those "medium sized battles" in GoT were among their best episodes. It wasn't necessarily the big CGI elements, either. Watchers on the Wall was very well done. Blackwater was a LOT of dialogue and setup and I loved that about it. You felt the anticipation. The scale was even conveyed by dialogue in several places.
      Hundreds will die!
      Thousands.
      This was also made possible by good writing around those episodes. If we didn't "know" the Hound by then we'd think him a coward. We spent time with Ygritte so it had impact when she died and Jon had to keep going anyhow. We'd seen Castle Black look so formidable yet here it was breached and broken.
      There's a lot of that lacking here, and it's happening in other series as well.

    • @skyz6708
      @skyz6708 2 місяці тому

      @@arisucheddar3097 I don't disagree that they were great episodes for GoT but quality writing doesn't equate to long production time. Just because these HOTD battles are large scale battles doesn't mean i think they will be good it's just the nature of the battles itself is grand in scale, hence the long production time.

  • @Sagittariustoo
    @Sagittariustoo 2 місяці тому +8

    Daemon's hallucinations have just about ruined this season for me.
    I don't care if they cancel the series if there's a two-year wait every time.
    Hell, I thought the strike was over!

  • @raemontargaryen3005
    @raemontargaryen3005 2 місяці тому +5

    the problem with hotd for me is . i could care less for the minor characters from minor houses. in GOT even tertiary characters like Brienne, Theon,and the Hound is very interesting to follow. even smaller characters like Bronn Podrick and Shae.

    • @cherylbaxter8986
      @cherylbaxter8986 2 місяці тому

      I Hate bronn with a passion I could've done without alot of him in GOT especially season's 5,6,7 an 8 all rubbish I just want to see more Targaryens their dreams, family an dragons I look forward to seeing Aegons Conquest with Visenya an Rhaenys to see Balerion the black dread young Vhagar an beautiful Maraxes

    • @beden653
      @beden653 2 місяці тому

      ​@AsdfghkdhhdjHe was originally an interesting character. But with each season, he became just a comedic clown for the viewer's entertainment, just like Tyrion at the end of the series. And who is the casual guy here?

  • @frankjerardenno2678
    @frankjerardenno2678 2 місяці тому

    R. I. P
    ❤George R.R. Martin

  • @amberworley4393
    @amberworley4393 2 місяці тому

    My hubby keeps reminding me that season 3 is two years away and i just wanna cry 😂

  • @ericappolonia6924
    @ericappolonia6924 2 місяці тому +1

    GRRM wants 40 episodes. I just want one book…

  • @ChooseCompassion1
    @ChooseCompassion1 2 місяці тому +1

    Okay! Well, can we get more storylines…more on the characters in between? At least?

  • @akr12877
    @akr12877 2 місяці тому

    Now it makes a little more sense that this season is slow as hell to spread out the budget but if they keep going on in this route a lot of people will feel bored and burnt out. The only solution is to have only a couple more seasons 10 episodes each with a bigger budget to help the pacing.

  • @tanyawilliams1887
    @tanyawilliams1887 2 місяці тому +2

    I have never clicked on an alert so fast...😂😂😂

  • @KristaErrickson
    @KristaErrickson 2 місяці тому

    We've learned that "seasons" have been reconfigured. They can be 6 or even 4 episodes. The latest generation of corporate network executives underestimate audiences even more than previous generations. GOT fans don't require dragons and dragon fights, battles every episode. Pacing is our biggest criticism. Like Damien skulking around Harenhall or Rhaeneyra fretting at Dragonstone episode after episode.

  • @IkeTheSlayer13
    @IkeTheSlayer13 2 місяці тому +3

    It’s not story driven it was because of the writers strike let’s be real here

  • @Joex51x
    @Joex51x 2 місяці тому +2

    lets be honest George doesnt even know the ending of the main series because he hasn't written it yet.

  • @trell488
    @trell488 2 місяці тому +1

    People who were entertained and satisfied with this season are crazy as deamon

  • @iamPrinceK
    @iamPrinceK 2 місяці тому +1

    Is Blood & Fire book complete?

    • @bandoogiemanz
      @bandoogiemanz 2 місяці тому

      Dance of dragons portion is it seems.

  • @thekhan1987
    @thekhan1987 2 місяці тому

    As a fan i agree, but it's a bit rough if we should expect them to be able to so intimately close to George during this time, besides I would rather them concentrate on Winds of Winter anyway, personally anyway.

  • @nestaismail9189
    @nestaismail9189 2 місяці тому

    Exactly, I feel like they are possibly not giving him the respect or authority as he feels he deserves . After all he said it clearly, it's his universe.

  • @TheSilkKing1
    @TheSilkKing1 2 місяці тому

    The sad truth is that ink is less expensive than actors, special effects, and CGI

  • @Pologlee
    @Pologlee 2 місяці тому

    Man Ive been following your channel since it’s early days and i love your videos so much. Its just sometimes i have to zap them halfway to get to the point. :( please try to grab the attention and keep it to the point . I feel like watching a recipe video where the chef takes 2000 years to stop chatting until they give out that recipe
    Love your channel and everything tho. Super loyal to it

  • @connorfarley3569
    @connorfarley3569 2 місяці тому

    They should’ve promoted it better and not saying it war time when it clearly wasn’t.
    Season 1 planting the seeds of war.
    Season 2 building armies making alliances.
    Season 3 total war.
    Season 4 aftermath.

  • @Hartmaniac
    @Hartmaniac 2 місяці тому +3

    HOTD season 2 was complete 💩
    The pacing, character development and arcs.
    Make all the excuses you want. It should not be acceptable for the universe of The Song of Ice and Fire.

  • @wizarddragon
    @wizarddragon 2 місяці тому +3

    I thought the writers said HBO was the reason the season was shortened?

    • @bouji_
      @bouji_ 2 місяці тому

      House of the Dragon Season 1 cost HBO about $200 million to make, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they shortened it.

  • @HenryHigh-r1t
    @HenryHigh-r1t 2 місяці тому +1

    I love how people are defending this show knowing damn well they would be tearing it apart if David and Dan were running it and making these decisions 🤦🏾

  • @ahmedma3oda
    @ahmedma3oda 2 місяці тому +3

    ill just start reading the books, fk it

  • @happybee7725
    @happybee7725 2 місяці тому

    What are peoples thoughts on The Cannibal being in the show? I’ve heard people say “So and so said The Cannibal is deffo going to be in it” and I’ve heard people say the exact opposite and everything in between.
    In the book he doesn’t have much bearing on the overall story. He’s never claimed by anyone. That is usually the type of thing they would cut out since it has no direct bearing or effect on the overall story line. It would be cool if one of the changes was instead of cutting out The Cannibal they cut out sheep stealer and had nettles or whoever claim The Cannibal. That would be a change I would be happy with.

  • @angelag669
    @angelag669 2 місяці тому

    I can see them needing at least 2 more seasons. We are at the end of Season 2 and the story is just getting started. There is SO much more story to tell.

  • @merryweatherflowers
    @merryweatherflowers 2 місяці тому

    The lady who picked the major characters said “ you hope you get it right as you have to work with these people for 5yrs”

  • @OptikNerve-nr9pj
    @OptikNerve-nr9pj 2 місяці тому

    Remember how well it worked out for s7 and s8 of GoT...

  • @joshhoffman5233
    @joshhoffman5233 2 місяці тому

    40 eps was enough to do the first 4 ice and fire books. That was leaving tons of stuff out of course. To get this to 40 is crazy stretching. They made it 8 episodes for “pacing” bc they couldn’t go very far and it already feels like things move too slowly.

    • @yolopistolo194
      @yolopistolo194 2 місяці тому

      Bro, you have not read the books lmao

    • @joshhoffman5233
      @joshhoffman5233 2 місяці тому

      @@yolopistolo194 I have though. More than you if you’re like 99% of the fandom. So whatever the disagreement if you want to discuss it will have to be more substantive

  • @edgardolopez500
    @edgardolopez500 2 місяці тому +7

    People love to complain…outside of Daemon’s hallucinations…this season has been perfectly fine.”

    • @acs7167
      @acs7167 2 місяці тому +11

      Oh no! My son was killed by my half brother who is also fighting a war to usurp me lemme just quickly go to the capital alone to meet with his mother who is also my ex childhood best friend so we can discuss peace when she literally can do nothing. This whole season was worse then season 1 with its flaws but good enough for normies eh?

    • @tasosalexiadis7748
      @tasosalexiadis7748 2 місяці тому +3

      I loved Daemon's hallucinations. I truly wonder why so many people don't like them. They DO move Daemon's character arc forward.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 2 місяці тому

      @Asdfghkdhhdj "Anyone who doesn't agree with me is a shill", learn a new line.

    • @midnightblackroses
      @midnightblackroses 2 місяці тому

      It's awful. I love the universe GRRM created but the HoTD writers are shite.

  • @masha22092000r
    @masha22092000r 2 місяці тому

    They should have made it 4 seasons.
    But that would require cutting Rhaenyra kissing a chick, Daemon tripping balls and crying, Alycent staring at a wall and tons of talking about "the long winter" (which most fans want to forget).

  • @Filippirgos
    @Filippirgos 2 місяці тому +9

    Dear Lord, I forgot this channel exists.
    Subscribed in the time of GoT peak popularity, after that dreadful ending vowed not to see anything related to it.
    Is House of Dragons worth your time ?

    • @GrimmDelightsDice
      @GrimmDelightsDice 2 місяці тому +11

      Some good, some bad. I'd say better than late game of thrones though.

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 2 місяці тому +8

      Yeah I recomend it. Specially season 1. Better than season 5, 7 and 8, Season 2 was a bit less great but its because of what happens in the book as well not being that exciting. Still worth watching it.

    • @JTrys
      @JTrys 2 місяці тому

      Im one of the few that hates it 😢 I think it’s worth watching yup girl you’re own opinion

    • @acs7167
      @acs7167 2 місяці тому +3

      No,if you expect a good execution of a good story just read the book or audiobook. Sad but no point getting hyped for such a mediocre show that might only be good if they do the ending right

    • @Mike-eo1hl
      @Mike-eo1hl 2 місяці тому +3

      If you can put up with the never ending women good, men bad theme then yeah it’s watchable.

  • @TimeisUp22
    @TimeisUp22 2 місяці тому +1

    Can we just reset the whole word back to 2012 or something⁉️ Back when every new tv show had at least 20 episodes per season and dropped a new season twice per year?? Damn. We cant enjoy anything anymore.

  • @ZiggyBones
    @ZiggyBones 2 місяці тому

    IIIRC he said GoT could've went 10+ seasons if they didnt cut so much content, he did relent and understand that the writers and actors would lose interest. TLDR George has no say on how long this show will go, only Condal and the HBO execs will make that decision

  • @AP20009
    @AP20009 2 місяці тому

    Am I the only one who understands that although we’ve had 8 episodes, we’ve probably gotten 10 episodes worth of actual film run time? Almost every episode of HOTD season 2 has been well over an hour long.

  • @acountryboysopinion6001
    @acountryboysopinion6001 2 місяці тому +1

    Yeah! We got cheated out of 2 episodes this season!

  • @tonymontez2358
    @tonymontez2358 2 місяці тому

    HBO needs to go all in on HOTD and pay whatever it costs for potentially another hit series just like the original GOT it should be a no brainer and stretch for as many seasons as possible

  • @cincyfanjunglecity9871
    @cincyfanjunglecity9871 2 місяці тому

    I have 2 main complaints about the show. 1) the seasons are really short . 2) very long , it’s way too long in between seasons.

  • @PSC9634
    @PSC9634 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm not attached to any characters like GOT. I don't know if it can retain my interest with 2 years between seasons. Sad to say. Sounds like GRRM has lost interest in the quality.

  • @Bangbanggggggggggggg
    @Bangbanggggggggggggg 2 місяці тому +9

    People just enjoy it.

    • @queenxx1690
      @queenxx1690 2 місяці тому +10

      You can't enjoy something that is badly written

    • @alexoman177
      @alexoman177 2 місяці тому +2

      @@queenxx1690 That's your opinion. I disagree, wholeheartedly. I think S2 has been fantastically written as a show.

    • @yeol174
      @yeol174 2 місяці тому

      @@alexoman177well, maybe but it is supposed to be based on the book, yet they try to make more and more changes in the characters and the plot line, some of them major.

    • @acs7167
      @acs7167 2 місяці тому +1

      @@alexoman177 HBO shill detected

    • @alexoman177
      @alexoman177 2 місяці тому +1

      @@yeol174 It's supposed to be whatever is based on its creator and the multitude of contracts with a diverse multitude of contracted parties.
      You personally do not have to like it.

  • @mirarstudios
    @mirarstudios 2 місяці тому +1

    Lack of big events made season 2 somewhat flag and slow

  • @HeronMarkHero
    @HeronMarkHero Місяць тому

    just because grrm said it needs to be so many episodes doesn't mean it will be