What I have to appreciate Emily for is that as much as she was criticizing her daughter face to face she never stabbed her into the back and let other people talk badly about her. She always defended her and tried to protect her as best as she could.
The way that christopher’s parents immediately were like ‘it’s not his fault but she should be sent away, why should he ruin his life because she got pregnant’ is painfully realistic, the double standards for men and women when it comes to pregnancy and having unexpected kids is insane especially in the 90s when this would be happening
And the parents (Silent Generation), especially Christopher's, have attitudes shaped by the postwar era. They absorbed the cultural messages they grew up with.
Honestly same. I'd also like to see as well a young Emily & Richard prequel show. I really want to see the moment they actually first met 🥺 I always loved them
That’s the one thing that a lot of Lorelai haters seem to ignore - that there was a whole year between Lorelai giving birth to Rory and choosing to move to Stars Hollow. We have no idea how things were in that year that made Lorelai choose to move out. Were her parents overriding her choices in how to raise Rory? How much was Christopher helping? Where was Christopher? We have no idea of any of these things and yet people act as judge and jury that she just ran away for no reason immediately after giving birth 🙄
My guess is she felt too much pressure, to marry Christopher, become a house wife, and become just like her mother. She was scared which a lot of teen parents are.
I never considered that perspective. Although, I think the question answers itself in the first episode of the series. When Lorelai has to ask Emily and Richard for money, they instantly use it as a mechanism to control her and treat her like she has an obligation to now put up with their judgement and abuse because she "owes" them. I would have left too.
Secondo me comunque questa è una cosa che hanno modificato dopo. Perché inizialmente, specialmente nella puntata dove appare la vecchia proprietaria dell'Indipendence Inn che ha fatto da seconda madre a Lorelai, sembrava proprio che Lorelai fosse piombata lì poco dopo la nascita della bambina. Che ha più senso. È rimasta a casa loro per un anno intero e non sono riusciti a farla sposare? Cosa ha fatto in quell'anno? Non regge. L'unica spiegazione è che quando Emily dice che il girello è lì da un anno, sta a dire che era stato acquistato da quando Lorelai era incinta ed effettivamente è rimasto un anno, fino a che Rory non aveva pochi mesi
@thisismorces811 actually, when Mia and Lorelai are talking about when they met, Mia specifically said that it was nearly 15 years ago to the day. That was in season 2, meaning Rory would be turning 17, which means that she was about a year old or a little more when Lorelai left her parents home, so the timeline did not change. And they didn’t “get her married” in the year she lived with them because she didn’t want to get married. She was raising Rory, probably very differently to how the Gilmores wanted her raised, which was probably a big instigator for her running away, they were probably taking over raising her daughter and she had enough.
@@JessehNotBovverd in effetti riguardando anche lo spezzone dove Rory conosce i genitori di Christopher, Lorelai dice che non la vedevano da quando aveva meno di 2 anni. Secondo me manco i produttori hanno bene idea della coerenza della lore (non sarebbe la prima volta, basta vedere lo sbaglio fatto col padre di Jess. Nella puntata di introduzione di Jess, Luke dice che il padre li aveva abbandonati due anni prima. Invece poi nella terza viene fuori che era scappato appena nato Jess. Che aveva molto più senso con la caratterizzazione di Jess. O anche con Trix, che inizialmente era data per defunta e poi invece appare, nel giro di poche puntate tra l'altro) perché a me pare poco plausibile che Lorelai, con la sua etica del farcela da sola, e con la pressione di Emily e Richard di farla sposare, sia restata più di un anno a casa dei genitori a fare...boh, non si sa cosa. Per poi un giorno svegliarsi e dire "ok me ne vado". Mi sembra più plausibile sia andata via quando Rory era neonata, poi non so
What will forever hit me hard is that for Rory it went Christopher: "She's pretty..." Lorelai: "She's perfect." But for GG it was all Christopher: "She's Perfect." Lorelai: "No, Rory was perfect." Ig some can see it as mean from Lorelai but it hits hard how at 16 she had this accident and as soon as she saw Rory she fell in love and knew she'd be there for her, Chris didn't get that until he had GG and Lorelai still felt it after all these years when Rory was older (and she definitely still remembered what Christopher said about Rory all those years ago.
@@LovedLamb it is a really painful thought, of course if they understand and decide for themselves to go through with abortion, that's how it should be, but to just be forced into a certain situation is never okay. This scene makes it seem like Lorelai understood the weight of the situation from here on out and Christopher wasn't yet understanding that this wasn't just an opportunity to get married to and stay with Lorelai forever. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it does seem that way to me, especially with the parallel between Rory and GG's births
@@Zainab-vw2ij I don't believe teenagers can choose to have an abortion, I had a friend who was forced by her stepmother to get one, but she wasn't the same since. I believe it should be normalized again to make sex before marriage taboo so less girls think they have to lose their virginity before entering adulthood (cuz during my childhood everyone was so fixated to lose their virginity). She did not want to marry Christopher cuz she never truly liked him and she probably only slept with him cuz of her mommy and daddy issues. Once she realized that a similar future as her parents might await her she ran away and ghosted everyone. I also do not believe abortion was even an option for Lorelai for she has grown up in a catholic environment despite having had fornication with Christopher, which I think was again a way to rebel against her parents. Even when they dated, she cared more of the image of them together than him as a person. She always liked Luke the most.
@ I agree too, I'd moved off from talking about Lorelai and just meant general teens with the abortion thing, I think it shouldn't be normalised to go into a relationship/marriage experienced but at the end of the day that's each individual person's opinion and decision to make. Bring forced to keep a child also ruins a lot of teens, that's why the decision should stand with the teen, if they believe they're old enough to engage in risky adult activities then they should face the adult decision as a consequence of their actions. But yeah Lorelai was definitely not given abortion as an option, she did say about all the priests(?? Rabi?? Sorry I'm not sure what term is correct to use here) that her parents brought in even after she'd already lost her virginity. And I agree with you on the Christopher part, as Lorelai told Rory "every girl needs a bad boy at some point in her life" (not a direct quote, I'm just putting down what I vaguely remember about the conversation).
Look Emily was not a great mom. But in that moment she definitely stuck up for lorelai. Also getting married because there's a baby involved is the world's worst idea
Rory was a year old when Lorelei left with her so you could argue that marriage wasn’t set in stone or she would have gotten married as soon as they found out she was pregnant.
@_Lane_ I thought she was a year cause when lorelai left Emily took note the stroller was missing and noted it was the first time "in a year" she didn't trip over it
For people wondering/asking why Lorelai left and why he didn't stay with her parents, remember the season when Rory was living in the pool house and then after Emily thought Logan and Rory were getting too close to sex, moved Rory into the main house, and became bit controlling? That's why Lorelai left. I always thought that storyline did an excellent job of answering that very question. It was pretty clear to me why Lorelai felt she had to get away. Whether or not she should have left or whether or not it was best decision is another story, but I completely understood her motivation and why she made the choice she made.
Young Lorelai was so charming! I feel it’s much more natural and likable than the way she acts as she’s older. Kind of broke my heart the way she just grabbed Rory and left. You could tell her parents loved having her around (specially her mom), and they were getting used to having baby Rory around too and loving that. It could’ve been an opportunity to grow closer. Sad that never happened
A lot of parents would have thrown their child out but hers did not and supported her and the baby. I know the were not the best example of parents but they sure as hell are not the worst.
@@mh-jg4tvI beg to differ. I was born in the 90s and if this happened to me, I would have been disowned. Every family has a different culture that we just don’t know or don’t always see. This can still happen to other teens today.
That being said, accepting help from your family isn't always the best thing either. Any time Lorelai needs money, Richard and Emily try to control her life and hold it over her head that she "owes" them and is therefore obligated to put up with their judgement and abuse. As someone who was in a similar situation myself, I can honestly say that there are times that I wish I had just left instead of allowing my family to have so much control over my life with no option for me to retaliate against it because they were financially supporting me.
Sometimes blue contacts don’t work on brown eyes. They tried with Olivia Coleman in The Crown when technology was a lot better and said it looked so awful they went with historical inaccuracy. But I remember when the colored contacts were a thing and they didn’t recommend them for anyone with dark eyes.
Emily at least tried. Yes, she is not the best mom ever but she did all she could thought of (again, very limited way of thinking) to help Lorelai specially when she was a teenager. Who I just can't stand is Richard. He never seemed to care for Lorelai.
@@Serenityblu23 Tbh that doesn't mean he didn't love Rory - just that he was uncomfortable with emotions, like a lot of men from older generations. I was very close with my grandpa, but in a few emotional situations, he would go to get my grandmother instead to deal with the emotions.
Richard è particolare, perché in realtà in molte occasioni si è dimostrato molto più dolce e accomodante lui con la figlia rispetto alla madre, che faceva l'acida anche nelle situazioni più delicate. Penso alla cerimonia di laurea o all'ultima puntata della serie quando le fa i complimenti per tutto ciò che ha fatto. Però poi abbiamo anche episodi dove dice schiettamente che non ha difeso Lorelai perché sua figlia ma per il buon nome dei Gilmore. Boh
Unpopular opinion: if Emily was as horrible as Lorelai always thought, she wouldn’t have been in bed for a month after Lorelai ran away. She treated her parents like crap.
I've learned that just because someone loves you doesn't mean they are going to treat you right. Contrary to The Beetles, you need more than love in relationships. Treating someone right means swallowing your pride when you make a mistake, admitting you make mistakes, being consistent when rectifying mistakes. Show has shown us a lot on just how prideful Emily can be and how that really causes a lot of fights between her and Lorelai. Just because your didn't mean to hurt someone, doesn't mean you didn't actually hurt someone.
Emily’s problem was never lack of love. We see throughout the series how much she cared for and loved Lorelai. Her issue is that she is stubborn, controlling and has no conflict resolution skills. After rory’s failed birthday party, lorelai said it best: she tries to control everyone down to each small detail, and when it fails she simply refuses to listen and ices out the person.
I think you're looking at this as black and white. Everything in life is a grey area. I think that's what this show really captured. Parenting is tough. Teenagers are crazy. Teenagers make their parents crazy. Parents are controlling but they mean well. Also these ppl are rich! They could have gotten a friggin nanny and Lorelei and Christopher would have lived their lives as usual
Emily sure cared about Lorelai, but she cared most about herself and her image in the society in the first place. That idea lead all her actions. And being publicly shamed by the fact that your own child ran away from you can make such a person REALLY suffer. That is not necessarily caring about someone. Lorelai was 16 a child that was suppressed in every way but also a new mom who had to take responsibility for her own child and had to grow up fast and emancipate from her own parents. Since her parents did not respect that fact sh kind of had to run away to do the best for her own child, who she fully took responsibility for although she was scared as heck. I do think that Emily does love Lorelai, though, since she later in the series asks why she an Lorelai don't have a relationship like Lorelai and Rory whcihs shows that she wishes for it but Emily is a victim of her own distanced upbringing.
Secondo me Lorelai non lo sopportava pure per questo. Troppo simili, rivedeva sé stessa da ragazzina. Lo dice pure che anche lei aveva affrontato quelle fasi. Inoltre hanno un sarcasmo maledettamente simile
@@mh-jg4tv I see what you mean: he could have at least brought up abortion as an option and expressed his grief. Maybe the show was a bit one-sided. But, some think he was arguably lacking empathy towards her: lack of empathy is acceptable until ~7 or 8 because of developmental appropriateness.
Infatti non ha molto senso. Qua era disposto a sposarsi, lavorare e mantenere la bambina e poi in realtà è stato sempre assente. Anche se Lorelai era andata per conto suo, poteva esserci di più. Non penso che l'avessero programmata così originariamente
This is one of my favorite episodes, if not my favorite episode of the series. I am not fond of the whole episode, Rory having to go to the hospital with Sherry. But the back story, I love. A part of what was, and all that Lorelai was rebelling about, and we see in the series against her mother.
If this happened to my daughter I'd raise the grandkid as my child and put my daughter through school so she wouldn't get behind, if she wanted to. It seems like a better solution than kids getting married at 16 years old.
Oh I think the raising the kid and making her daughter finishing school was part of Emilys Plan. But Lorelai didn' t wantvto be part of a plan. So you should ask your daughter.
It wouldn't work in this situation. Emily would have been too old for it to be believable. Also, it requires a lengthy vacation or moving to a new place.
@@Tswizzle_sizzleidk why anyone would put an age on abortion. It’s always murder. The only thing that changes when you’re over 18 is you’re able to choose murder yourself instead of being manipulated by hospital staff. And yes they are extremely manipulative. Look up Abby Johnson. She used to be Planned Parenthood’s employee of the year. She talks about it how she was trained to manipulate women financially and convince them they had no other options. Then she had a moment where she realized the horror of what she was doing. She left the industry, and now she runs a charity helping abortionists get out of that awful career and into careers they can be proud of. She’s helped hundreds of abortion staff leave in just the last few years. Abby had an abortion herself, so she knows what it’s like. She knows the inside of the industry. The lies. How they profit off of suffering. Look up her book Unplanned to learn more. Her organization is called “and then there were none”
Devi pensare che i nonni vivono in un contesto dove regna il culto dell'apparenza. Emily fa parte di un gruppo dove è umiliante anche solo avere la tazza da tè per ultima e devono sottostare a mille regole per non farsi sparlare dietro. Figuriamoci con una figlia incinta a 16 anni. Loro erano per il matrimonio per non far parlare la gente soprattutto, rispetto a una soluzione più ragionevole come farla continuare a studiare e allevare la bambina
Christopher seemed very willing to be an involved and supportive father. Lorelai left and didn't give him the opportunity to be part of his daughter's life. In the years that followed he had little interactions with Rory, and was for the most part estranged. It's interesting to me that Lorelai did that to her daughter and baby daddy.
He might have said so. But knowing Christopher, he would have grown to resent her. This was the very reason why lorelai left with her daughter. She didnt want Christopher to drop his dream because of her.
He said "its okay" morosely lmfao he did not seem that willing, just settling for everything with no direction at all. Lorelai prob knew christopher would just be passive and itd be her fighting 4 adults on how to raise her child
And I'm not saying at that age, he *should* have direction and a plan. Obvi he was scared, id be scared in that position too. But the point is lorelai didnt like that world and the way the parents were and she prob knew christopher would be the same. And theres a whole yr missing where we dont see what he did so. We really have no idea
When he said he was willing to marry her she was only a few months pregnant. When she left Rory was a year old. We have no clue what happened in that time but considering we don't see Christopher again until after the birth and we don't see him living with them in the scene where she leaves with Rory, we can assume he didn't stick around and live with them or work for her father like that original plan. Also, plenty of people move to be closer to their children. He could have moved to Stars Hollow at any point in Rory's life and chose not to. He could have played a more active role at any point. He continuously chose not to.
I think she didn't want to be tied down to him or feel guilty for holding him back. If was less about keeping him in or out of the picture and more about not letting a baby dictate the next part of their lives.
What did Lorelai mean 'we can take care of ourselves' and then flipping around with 'no!' when Chris says he is going to get a job? Did he even GO to Paris after Lorelai took over caring for Rory?
I kinda hate that Richard always only has himself in mind. Like, no-one cares which shoes you're wearing or if you're in pain, your daughter is literally having a baby right then! 😖😫😠😢
Imagine if they had followed the plan. They would have divorced but then they could have moved on and Lorelai maybe would have still run an inn and Chris would have gone off to do whatever
In reality Lorelai did exactly what her mother did and put her life on hold for a man. She was the dutiful full time parent meanwhile he swanned around doing what exactly? She let him out of all his responsibilities and acted like it was okay but really it wasn't. He's like Peter Pan.
Exactly Lorelei was just too stubborn Chris isn’t with them to work on the company or something they do get engaged a long time later but they never get married
I don't know specifically about the USA, but in most developed countries (in many developings sadly nobody gives a shit if a child marries) people between 16 and 18 can get married with special permission. In my country nobody can get married before 16, between 16 and 18 they can only get married with permission from the parents and childcare services, but only with good reasons, like expecting a baby together or a terminal illness.
Emily is such a harsh mother, geez. Lorei was only 16. How could her mother yell at her in anger when Lorei is in so much pain? That’s really not cool.
Watching this episode made me wonder how my grandparents reacted when they found out my mother was pregnant with my older brother. I do know mom did marry my brothers father. Unfortunately it didn't last
I’m sorry but Lorelai was actually a terrible daughter. I get that Emily was insufferable in a lot aspects but her one goal has always been to do her best for her daughter, she did her best based on what she knew, and Lorelai did nothing but push her away, judge her for not being perfect and isolate her from a lot of experiences she KNEW meant a lot to her mom (like driving her daughter to the hospital when she was in labour). She literally treated her mom the way she accused her mom treated her (ex. saying her mom was always judgemental and critical??? Like??? That’s how she is to her mom, wayyyy more than her mom ever was of her. Plus her mom was honestly pretty reasonable with a lot of the things that Lorelai acted like were the end of the world strictness). Honestly, Lorelai criticized her mom more than her mom ever did her. Emily always just wanted to be the best mom she could be, she helped Lorelai every chance she got and literally all she asked for was for Lorelai to spend time with her. Lorelai got annoyed at anything to do with her mom, like geez I get that ur life wasn’t perfect but at least Emily acted like a mom. Lorelai thought she did such a good job with Rory by being her friend (instead of mom) and she royally screwed Rory over. Lorelai was 10000x more stubborn, insufferable, ungrateful and irresponsible than her mom. The problem is she never wanted nor deserved a mom, she wanted a mom who didn’t give a rats ass about her and would just let her do anything she wanted. I grew up with a mom who didn’t give a f about me or my existence and I would kill to have a mom like Emily, as annoying as I know she was, at least she loved her daughter and wanted to be in her life and always tried to do her best with what she knew. She always had Lorelai’s back, and she loved her unconditionally as shitty as Lorelai treated her. People like Lorelai deserved to have been born and raised without any mother at all
100% I also grew up with a mother who was more concerned over her own life and what she had going on so i was mostly ignored. Growing up i was able to do whatever i wanted. I did the most insane and embarrassing things. Now at 22, I’m embarrassed of who i use to be as a teenager. I grew up with no morals, no mother or father figure and it truly shows. Im 22 and i feel like I’m starting from scratch. Unlearning everything i use to do and considered “normal” and teaching myself to be a young woman with integrity. Edit: As a teen u think ur invincible so u put urself in dangerous situations. If my mom cared more it would’ve saved me sm trauma.
3:09 i feel this I was in labor for 36 hours (after pictocin) unmedicated (didnt want to make my back worse Had my water break close to two weeks before they had me emergency admited due to covid putting off my appointment and being sent home from er multiple times in a single week They couldnt find any vein and i have sensory issues (usually under control but severly out of control from day 1 couldnt even touch dishes) Everything hurt and i was pissed at everyone i even have documentation of it cause of my tiktok (started alot of shit and dont regret it since even afterwards i was still right)
I have rewatched this series no less than 8 times in its entirety. Its a go to for me. I loved Emily and Richard and in as much as Emily could be controlling, Lorelis actions were worse. Running away and keeping the baby away from the family was not justified. Lorelei turned out yo be a good mother but she was a brat as a kid. Always doing the opposite of what was asked of her. She sidetrackdd her own life and always blamed her parents for it. She realized her mistake when Rory started to spend more time with them and Lorelei got jealous because of the opportunities presented to Roey. The same opportunities that Lorelai ran away from. Don't get me started with Rory. What a disappointment she turned out to be.
This is the one thing about Lorelei that I absolutely can’t stand. Lorelei’s selfish stubborn streak caused her to make her daughter’s life harder than it needed to be. What are some of things that a child most needs to be a successful in life? A two-parent household. A good education. Financial security, etc. And Lorelei took all that away. Chris was ready to marry her, but she stubbornly refused. So, she forced Rory to grow up in a fatherless household and then Rory was forced to watch her mother run through boyfriends. And as the child of single mother, nothing is more upsetting or disturbing than watching your mother run through boyfriends like candy. 😖 Anyway, although Rory grew up in a nice house for most of the series, I still can’t forget that Lorelei took her 1-year-old daughter out of her parents nice home and chose to live in in a shed instead. What mother in her right mind would voluntarily raise her toddler in a freaking shed? And for what? Some selfish desire to have “independence”? 😒 And then she keeps Rory’s grandparents out of her life for selfish reasons and this forces Emily to essentially blackmail her own daughter so that they could have a relationship with their grandchild. And then after all of this, Lorelei has the audacity to go back to her parents and ask them to fund her daughter’s education? How dare she. Honestly, the worst kind of people in the world are those who ignore family members until they want money from them. What happened to wanting to be independent and making her own way in life, hm? 🤔 And honestly, this is why I kinda feel sympathetic for Lorelei‘s parents. We’re they stuck-up snobs? Sure. But at the same time…they were good parents just trying to do the best by their daughter and they literally set up her to win in life. But she made a mistake and then she continued to spit in their faces after the fact. She was selfish, stubborn, childish, flighty, immature, and borderline self-destructive. And I feel never understand how the fandom defends Lorelei‘s decision making and parenting skills over her parents. They were the only ones with their heads on straight.
Dude she was sixteen. You seriously supporting child marriage against people’s consent? If it was a choice between being forced into marriage in a huge house vs freedom in a shed, I’m in the shed. Lorelei is flawed, but this is a horrid take.
A forced two-parent household is a horrible take! I know from experience that having only one parent present that loves you is a thousand times better than living with two parents that obviously don't love each other that much and are together just for you! Rory (and everyone) would have suffered much more in that situation. But in the end she actually grew up loved and safe with an entire town that cared for her instead of feeling like a mistake that ruined her parent's lives
She was literally screaming at her daughter while in labor. Lorelai didn't need to marry Christopher to be a good parent and he was barely there for them anyway..
Rory had a good education, went to Chilton and Yale and clearly had good grades prior to Chilton 🤷🏻♀️ seemed to have a pretty big house too, but I don't know what would be considered a decent living in the US. I'd rather be with one parent than with two parents who don't want to be together..a child needs parents who love each other.
@@bornarose11esattamente. È il senso di tutta la serie, che non a caso si conclude con Richard che ammette pubblicamente che Lorelai ha creato qualcosa di straordinario
unpopular opinion but Lorelai was just a spoiled brat who didn't appreciate what her parents gave her. Yes her mom might have been overbearing but still the attitude she had and just disrespect towards her parents after they chose to help her really turned me off.
I honestly cant stand lorelai. she ruined her life and everyone elses by having a baby. emily and richard just wanted her to have a successful happy life
He wasn’t perfect she was a teenager I love Emily but she did to much PRESSURE on her though to be a certain way and that wasn’t her but Emily did have her back as a mother should and the actress is PERFECT for Lorelei😂
@@janderson947 yes lauren graham is the perfect lorelai! I agree that emily put too much pressure on her but honestly it's not always bad to have pressure on you, it makes you strive for greater things.
As someone who was born to a barely 16 year old mother.....thanks. 😮 Do you know how much bravery it takes for a 16 year old to refuse everyone's demand she terminate, then their insistence that she adopt the baby out, to having her parents to raise me? I only got 27 years with her, she died of ALS at 43. But I literally was never not grateful that she made that choice. And they were, (besides "I love you") the very last words I told he as she passed. Yes, this was fiction, but maybe don't make sweeping generalisations. But they were also the experiences of plenty of young girls.
Emily gilmore is a wonderful woman. Everytime I see titbits like these my hate towards lorelai increases. The trauma in lorelais life is her own doing hell... whats trauma when her parents were supportive? im thinking she must wanted to get rid of the baby but emily was against it so she went with it anyway since she cant hate rory for being born she hates emily. Things turned out ok for lorelai but when she did face a big crunch she did shamelesley turn to her parents. If she was strong independant she wld hv just worked like she worked when rory was a baby n send her to school instead of aproaching richard.
"You do not leave your house when you're having a baby without telling your mother!" 🤣
This is _so very_ Emily! 😃
What I have to appreciate Emily for is that as much as she was criticizing her daughter face to face she never stabbed her into the back and let other people talk badly about her. She always defended her and tried to protect her as best as she could.
Actually, she did backstab lorelai when rory wanted to drop out of yale
What? She ruined loralai's relationship with Luke she wanted to control her daughter on every aspect of her life even when she was an adult
@@geral096 exactly, she constantly critized lorelai to her face and ruined her life
What drugs were you on when you watched it?😂
@@tellataylorsversion publically? I did not see a lot of this season.
The way that christopher’s parents immediately were like ‘it’s not his fault but she should be sent away, why should he ruin his life because she got pregnant’ is painfully realistic, the double standards for men and women when it comes to pregnancy and having unexpected kids is insane especially in the 90s when this would be happening
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And the parents (Silent Generation), especially Christopher's, have attitudes shaped by the postwar era. They absorbed the cultural messages they grew up with.
yup Rory was born Oct 1984
I would love a young Lorelei tv show
Yeah, a spin-off would be fantastic! 😊
I would LOVE a Lorelai show!
@@LongLiveSwiftie100 I would too but the guy who played Richard is gone and no one could replace him 😢
Honestly same. I'd also like to see as well a young Emily & Richard prequel show. I really want to see the moment they actually first met 🥺 I always loved them
@@BorachoDoritos So true
‘Dear mom and dad I’m in labor see you later’ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The years before texting
-Loralei
With parents like that I don’t blame Loreali at all 😊😊😊😊😊😂😂😂😂
That’s the one thing that a lot of Lorelai haters seem to ignore - that there was a whole year between Lorelai giving birth to Rory and choosing to move to Stars Hollow. We have no idea how things were in that year that made Lorelai choose to move out. Were her parents overriding her choices in how to raise Rory? How much was Christopher helping? Where was Christopher? We have no idea of any of these things and yet people act as judge and jury that she just ran away for no reason immediately after giving birth 🙄
My guess is she felt too much pressure, to marry Christopher, become a house wife, and become just like her mother. She was scared which a lot of teen parents are.
I never considered that perspective. Although, I think the question answers itself in the first episode of the series. When Lorelai has to ask Emily and Richard for money, they instantly use it as a mechanism to control her and treat her like she has an obligation to now put up with their judgement and abuse because she "owes" them. I would have left too.
Secondo me comunque questa è una cosa che hanno modificato dopo. Perché inizialmente, specialmente nella puntata dove appare la vecchia proprietaria dell'Indipendence Inn che ha fatto da seconda madre a Lorelai, sembrava proprio che Lorelai fosse piombata lì poco dopo la nascita della bambina. Che ha più senso. È rimasta a casa loro per un anno intero e non sono riusciti a farla sposare? Cosa ha fatto in quell'anno? Non regge.
L'unica spiegazione è che quando Emily dice che il girello è lì da un anno, sta a dire che era stato acquistato da quando Lorelai era incinta ed effettivamente è rimasto un anno, fino a che Rory non aveva pochi mesi
@thisismorces811 actually, when Mia and Lorelai are talking about when they met, Mia specifically said that it was nearly 15 years ago to the day. That was in season 2, meaning Rory would be turning 17, which means that she was about a year old or a little more when Lorelai left her parents home, so the timeline did not change. And they didn’t “get her married” in the year she lived with them because she didn’t want to get married. She was raising Rory, probably very differently to how the Gilmores wanted her raised, which was probably a big instigator for her running away, they were probably taking over raising her daughter and she had enough.
@@JessehNotBovverd in effetti riguardando anche lo spezzone dove Rory conosce i genitori di Christopher, Lorelai dice che non la vedevano da quando aveva meno di 2 anni. Secondo me manco i produttori hanno bene idea della coerenza della lore (non sarebbe la prima volta, basta vedere lo sbaglio fatto col padre di Jess. Nella puntata di introduzione di Jess, Luke dice che il padre li aveva abbandonati due anni prima. Invece poi nella terza viene fuori che era scappato appena nato Jess. Che aveva molto più senso con la caratterizzazione di Jess. O anche con Trix, che inizialmente era data per defunta e poi invece appare, nel giro di poche puntate tra l'altro) perché a me pare poco plausibile che Lorelai, con la sua etica del farcela da sola, e con la pressione di Emily e Richard di farla sposare, sia restata più di un anno a casa dei genitori a fare...boh, non si sa cosa. Per poi un giorno svegliarsi e dire "ok me ne vado". Mi sembra più plausibile sia andata via quando Rory era neonata, poi non so
Richard the lion and Emily the lioness protecting her cubs.
What will forever hit me hard is that for Rory it went
Christopher: "She's pretty..."
Lorelai: "She's perfect."
But for GG it was all
Christopher: "She's Perfect."
Lorelai: "No, Rory was perfect."
Ig some can see it as mean from Lorelai but it hits hard how at 16 she had this accident and as soon as she saw Rory she fell in love and knew she'd be there for her, Chris didn't get that until he had GG and Lorelai still felt it after all these years when Rory was older (and she definitely still remembered what Christopher said about Rory all those years ago.
sadly most teenagers are coerced to get an abortion and not really understand the weight of their actions anymore.
@@LovedLamb it is a really painful thought, of course if they understand and decide for themselves to go through with abortion, that's how it should be, but to just be forced into a certain situation is never okay.
This scene makes it seem like Lorelai understood the weight of the situation from here on out and Christopher wasn't yet understanding that this wasn't just an opportunity to get married to and stay with Lorelai forever. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it does seem that way to me, especially with the parallel between Rory and GG's births
@@Zainab-vw2ij I don't believe teenagers can choose to have an abortion, I had a friend who was forced by her stepmother to get one, but she wasn't the same since. I believe it should be normalized again to make sex before marriage taboo so less girls think they have to lose their virginity before entering adulthood (cuz during my childhood everyone was so fixated to lose their virginity).
She did not want to marry Christopher cuz she never truly liked him and she probably only slept with him cuz of her mommy and daddy issues. Once she realized that a similar future as her parents might await her she ran away and ghosted everyone. I also do not believe abortion was even an option for Lorelai for she has grown up in a catholic environment despite having had fornication with Christopher, which I think was again a way to rebel against her parents. Even when they dated, she cared more of the image of them together than him as a person. She always liked Luke the most.
@ I agree too, I'd moved off from talking about Lorelai and just meant general teens with the abortion thing, I think it shouldn't be normalised to go into a relationship/marriage experienced but at the end of the day that's each individual person's opinion and decision to make.
Bring forced to keep a child also ruins a lot of teens, that's why the decision should stand with the teen, if they believe they're old enough to engage in risky adult activities then they should face the adult decision as a consequence of their actions.
But yeah Lorelai was definitely not given abortion as an option, she did say about all the priests(?? Rabi?? Sorry I'm not sure what term is correct to use here) that her parents brought in even after she'd already lost her virginity.
And I agree with you on the Christopher part, as Lorelai told Rory "every girl needs a bad boy at some point in her life" (not a direct quote, I'm just putting down what I vaguely remember about the conversation).
The episode called Emily in Wonderland and this one called Dear Emily and Richard always get to me. Same with Lorelai’s graduation.
Look Emily was not a great mom. But in that moment she definitely stuck up for lorelai. Also getting married because there's a baby involved is the world's worst idea
Rory was a year old when Lorelei left with her so you could argue that marriage wasn’t set in stone or she would have gotten married as soon as they found out she was pregnant.
Actually she was only 4 months old. 😉
@_Lane_ I thought she was a year cause when lorelai left Emily took note the stroller was missing and noted it was the first time "in a year" she didn't trip over it
Getting pregnant out of wedlock isn’t a million dollar idea either
@@KoolKukumberusually works a lot better than the opposite
You're having an baby don't you know that , lorleai ? Well that explains the stomachache 😂😂😂😂
This video is just making me want a young Lorelai tv show
Dear Emily and Richard. Season 3, episode 13
I feel like they cast young Lorelei really well!
@ ikr
Thanks for uploading. It’s hard to believe that Rory would be forty this year! 😊
For people wondering/asking why Lorelai left and why he didn't stay with her parents, remember the season when Rory was living in the pool house and then after Emily thought Logan and Rory were getting too close to sex, moved Rory into the main house, and became bit controlling? That's why Lorelai left. I always thought that storyline did an excellent job of answering that very question. It was pretty clear to me why Lorelai felt she had to get away. Whether or not she should have left or whether or not it was best decision is another story, but I completely understood her motivation and why she made the choice she made.
Young Lorelai was so charming! I feel it’s much more natural and likable than the way she acts as she’s older. Kind of broke my heart the way she just grabbed Rory and left. You could tell her parents loved having her around (specially her mom), and they were getting used to having baby Rory around too and loving that. It could’ve been an opportunity to grow closer. Sad that never happened
It did. It just happened in a different form, in a different time.
They were too controlling that's why she left
A lot of parents would have thrown their child out but hers did not and supported her and the baby. I know the were not the best example of parents but they sure as hell are not the worst.
That was 1984., not 1884.
@@mh-jg4tvI beg to differ. I was born in the 90s and if this happened to me, I would have been disowned. Every family has a different culture that we just don’t know or don’t always see. This can still happen to other teens today.
That being said, accepting help from your family isn't always the best thing either. Any time Lorelai needs money, Richard and Emily try to control her life and hold it over her head that she "owes" them and is therefore obligated to put up with their judgement and abuse. As someone who was in a similar situation myself, I can honestly say that there are times that I wish I had just left instead of allowing my family to have so much control over my life with no option for me to retaliate against it because they were financially supporting me.
All I can look at is young lorelai's brown eyes, and how inaccurate it is b/c Lorelai's eyes are SO BLUE. At least give the actress blue contacts...
Sometimes blue contacts don’t work on brown eyes. They tried with Olivia Coleman in The Crown when technology was a lot better and said it looked so awful they went with historical inaccuracy. But I remember when the colored contacts were a thing and they didn’t recommend them for anyone with dark eyes.
2:22 why does lorelai look like an american version of Michele from derry girls
LOL LITERALLY
she does!!!
I just realized that Emily Gilmore is the Mom from Dirty Dancing !
“I think she gets it from me” 😂
I found out in people magazine last week lol😊
Some people take really long...
Yup.
Happy 40th Birthday Rory!!! 😅
Today's date is 10/08/24
"I wore the wrong shoes for this" lol
Emily at least tried. Yes, she is not the best mom ever but she did all she could thought of (again, very limited way of thinking) to help Lorelai specially when she was a teenager. Who I just can't stand is Richard. He never seemed to care for Lorelai.
The way Richard couldn't even hug rory when she was upset and crying and told her her grandmother would be there soon.
@@Serenityblu23 Tbh that doesn't mean he didn't love Rory - just that he was uncomfortable with emotions, like a lot of men from older generations. I was very close with my grandpa, but in a few emotional situations, he would go to get my grandmother instead to deal with the emotions.
Richard è particolare, perché in realtà in molte occasioni si è dimostrato molto più dolce e accomodante lui con la figlia rispetto alla madre, che faceva l'acida anche nelle situazioni più delicate. Penso alla cerimonia di laurea o all'ultima puntata della serie quando le fa i complimenti per tutto ciò che ha fatto.
Però poi abbiamo anche episodi dove dice schiettamente che non ha difeso Lorelai perché sua figlia ma per il buon nome dei Gilmore. Boh
Unpopular opinion: if Emily was as horrible as Lorelai always thought, she wouldn’t have been in bed for a month after Lorelai ran away. She treated her parents like crap.
I've learned that just because someone loves you doesn't mean they are going to treat you right. Contrary to The Beetles, you need more than love in relationships. Treating someone right means swallowing your pride when you make a mistake, admitting you make mistakes, being consistent when rectifying mistakes. Show has shown us a lot on just how prideful Emily can be and how that really causes a lot of fights between her and Lorelai. Just because your didn't mean to hurt someone, doesn't mean you didn't actually hurt someone.
Emily’s problem was never lack of love. We see throughout the series how much she cared for and loved Lorelai.
Her issue is that she is stubborn, controlling and has no conflict resolution skills. After rory’s failed birthday party, lorelai said it best: she tries to control everyone down to each small detail, and when it fails she simply refuses to listen and ices out the person.
I think you're looking at this as black and white. Everything in life is a grey area. I think that's what this show really captured. Parenting is tough. Teenagers are crazy. Teenagers make their parents crazy. Parents are controlling but they mean well. Also these ppl are rich! They could have gotten a friggin nanny and Lorelei and Christopher would have lived their lives as usual
Emily sure cared about Lorelai, but she cared most about herself and her image in the society in the first place. That idea lead all her actions. And being publicly shamed by the fact that your own child ran away from you can make such a person REALLY suffer. That is not necessarily caring about someone. Lorelai was 16 a child that was suppressed in every way but also a new mom who had to take responsibility for her own child and had to grow up fast and emancipate from her own parents. Since her parents did not respect that fact sh kind of had to run away to do the best for her own child, who she fully took responsibility for although she was scared as heck. I do think that Emily does love Lorelai, though, since she later in the series asks why she an Lorelai don't have a relationship like Lorelai and Rory whcihs shows that she wishes for it but Emily is a victim of her own distanced upbringing.
idk what lorelai expected bc i’m sorry but how would the average mother react to her 16 year old daughter pregnant
Young Loralai reminds me so much of Jess when she was younger.
Secondo me Lorelai non lo sopportava pure per questo. Troppo simili, rivedeva sé stessa da ragazzina. Lo dice pure che anche lei aveva affrontato quelle fasi. Inoltre hanno un sarcasmo maledettamente simile
Chris was abandonic and they show tries to make him cute
right??!
He was 16
@@mh-jg4tv I see what you mean: he could have at least brought up abortion as an option and expressed his grief. Maybe the show was a bit one-sided.
But, some think he was arguably lacking empathy towards her: lack of empathy is acceptable until ~7 or 8 because of developmental appropriateness.
@@mh-jg4tv i mean when he was an adult. He never tried parenting.
Infatti non ha molto senso. Qua era disposto a sposarsi, lavorare e mantenere la bambina e poi in realtà è stato sempre assente. Anche se Lorelai era andata per conto suo, poteva esserci di più. Non penso che l'avessero programmata così originariamente
I really love gilmore girls so very much . I am a big gilmore girls fan ❤❤❤
This is missing the 99 Luftballons scene 😢
That was my favorite scene
This is one of my favorite episodes, if not my favorite episode of the series. I am not fond of the whole episode, Rory having to go to the hospital with Sherry. But the back story, I love. A part of what was, and all that Lorelai was rebelling about, and we see in the series against her mother.
If this happened to my daughter I'd raise the grandkid as my child and put my daughter through school so she wouldn't get behind, if she wanted to. It seems like a better solution than kids getting married at 16 years old.
Oh I think the raising the kid and making her daughter finishing school was part of Emilys Plan. But Lorelai didn' t wantvto be part of a plan.
So you should ask your daughter.
Right? Also, for those saying a girl is too young for an abortion but not too young to drop out of school and marry is WILD.
It wouldn't work in this situation. Emily would have been too old for it to be believable. Also, it requires a lengthy vacation or moving to a new place.
@@Tswizzle_sizzleidk why anyone would put an age on abortion. It’s always murder. The only thing that changes when you’re over 18 is you’re able to choose murder yourself instead of being manipulated by hospital staff. And yes they are extremely manipulative. Look up Abby Johnson. She used to be Planned Parenthood’s employee of the year. She talks about it how she was trained to manipulate women financially and convince them they had no other options. Then she had a moment where she realized the horror of what she was doing. She left the industry, and now she runs a charity helping abortionists get out of that awful career and into careers they can be proud of. She’s helped hundreds of abortion staff leave in just the last few years. Abby had an abortion herself, so she knows what it’s like. She knows the inside of the industry. The lies. How they profit off of suffering. Look up her book Unplanned to learn more. Her organization is called “and then there were none”
Devi pensare che i nonni vivono in un contesto dove regna il culto dell'apparenza. Emily fa parte di un gruppo dove è umiliante anche solo avere la tazza da tè per ultima e devono sottostare a mille regole per non farsi sparlare dietro. Figuriamoci con una figlia incinta a 16 anni. Loro erano per il matrimonio per non far parlare la gente soprattutto, rispetto a una soluzione più ragionevole come farla continuare a studiare e allevare la bambina
Emily stood up for Lorelai!
I don’t like Richard, he doesn’t seem to give a shit at all. He just cares about work.
yup, work and his last name
Good job nurse telling her to shut up
I loved young lorilae
Is that Luke from Halloweentown?
It's Luke!!! From Halloweentown 😮
Christopher seemed very willing to be an involved and supportive father. Lorelai left and didn't give him the opportunity to be part of his daughter's life. In the years that followed he had little interactions with Rory, and was for the most part estranged. It's interesting to me that Lorelai did that to her daughter and baby daddy.
He might have said so. But knowing Christopher, he would have grown to resent her. This was the very reason why lorelai left with her daughter. She didnt want Christopher to drop his dream because of her.
He said "its okay" morosely lmfao he did not seem that willing, just settling for everything with no direction at all. Lorelai prob knew christopher would just be passive and itd be her fighting 4 adults on how to raise her child
And I'm not saying at that age, he *should* have direction and a plan. Obvi he was scared, id be scared in that position too. But the point is lorelai didnt like that world and the way the parents were and she prob knew christopher would be the same. And theres a whole yr missing where we dont see what he did so. We really have no idea
When he said he was willing to marry her she was only a few months pregnant. When she left Rory was a year old. We have no clue what happened in that time but considering we don't see Christopher again until after the birth and we don't see him living with them in the scene where she leaves with Rory, we can assume he didn't stick around and live with them or work for her father like that original plan. Also, plenty of people move to be closer to their children. He could have moved to Stars Hollow at any point in Rory's life and chose not to. He could have played a more active role at any point. He continuously chose not to.
I think she didn't want to be tied down to him or feel guilty for holding him back. If was less about keeping him in or out of the picture and more about not letting a baby dictate the next part of their lives.
What did Lorelai mean 'we can take care of ourselves' and then flipping around with 'no!' when Chris says he is going to get a job? Did he even GO to Paris after Lorelai took over caring for Rory?
Right like I wish she would of took off and figured out how hard life is especially without any help
My granddaughter is named Rory. Her parents were inspired by this show :)
Just here to comment that young Chris was in Halloweentown.
Thank you! I thought he looked familiar!
Why does young Lorelai look like Michelle from Derry Girls?
I kinda hate that Richard always only has himself in mind. Like, no-one cares which shoes you're wearing or if you're in pain, your daughter is literally having a baby right then! 😖😫😠😢
Both parents think in themselves. Mom is angry bc she doesn't tell her about the labor and don't help the daughter to fell relax for the labor.
does anyone know what episode this is? I've watched the whole show and a year in the life and I do not remember these scenes at all 😭
Season 3, Episode 13
the episode when Cheri has the baby and Lorelai is having flashbacks to when Rory was born in the same hospital.
thank you!
Oh my goodness I never seen this one thank you!
Imagine if they had followed the plan. They would have divorced but then they could have moved on and Lorelai maybe would have still run an inn and Chris would have gone off to do whatever
Man they were both so young!!! So sad but she is such great mom
This episode made me cry
I didn’t Know This Channel Existed
What season?
What did the letter sayy!?
what episode is this???
Season 3 episode 13. "Dear Emily & Richard".
where did this episode come from??
Were can I watch this
Is that hospital the set from ER? it looks like it!🤔
This version of young Chris doesnt look like the Chris Lorelai talked about early on in the series. Motorcycle, rock music and leather jackets... lol
Was the note saying she had moved out? I’ve never seen Gilmore Girls.
Yes
In reality Lorelai did exactly what her mother did and put her life on hold for a man. She was the dutiful full time parent meanwhile he swanned around doing what exactly? She let him out of all his responsibilities and acted like it was okay but really it wasn't. He's like Peter Pan.
I'm surprised she waited so long to leave, her parents were horrible, Christopher was useless and his parents were pathetic
I loveeee Gilmore girls idk if this was an episode lol because I am on season 3 episode like 3
He seemed nice. Why didn’t they get married? Or at least have him present?
Exactly Lorelei was just too stubborn Chris isn’t with them to work on the company or something they do get engaged a long time later but they never get married
you go Emily
Would they even have been allowed to marry,both being just 16?
I don't know specifically about the USA, but in most developed countries (in many developings sadly nobody gives a shit if a child marries) people between 16 and 18 can get married with special permission. In my country nobody can get married before 16, between 16 and 18 they can only get married with permission from the parents and childcare services, but only with good reasons, like expecting a baby together or a terminal illness.
Yes. Not impossible. I think it's more complicated and maybe they need to be emancipated first? Not sure.
You need your parents permission if you’re under 18 in the US.
Emily is such a harsh mother, geez. Lorei was only 16. How could her mother yell at her in anger when Lorei is in so much pain? That’s really not cool.
I don't remember this being an the episodes?
The one where Sherri gives birth
@KellyF105 Oh ok
We’re really supposed to believe that dress doesn’t zip up on a waist *that* small? How tiny was she pre-pregnancy? Come on now.
Watching this episode made me wonder how my grandparents reacted when they found out my mother was pregnant with my older brother. I do know mom did marry my brothers father. Unfortunately it didn't last
I’m sorry but Lorelai was actually a terrible daughter. I get that Emily was insufferable in a lot aspects but her one goal has always been to do her best for her daughter, she did her best based on what she knew, and Lorelai did nothing but push her away, judge her for not being perfect and isolate her from a lot of experiences she KNEW meant a lot to her mom (like driving her daughter to the hospital when she was in labour). She literally treated her mom the way she accused her mom treated her (ex. saying her mom was always judgemental and critical??? Like??? That’s how she is to her mom, wayyyy more than her mom ever was of her. Plus her mom was honestly pretty reasonable with a lot of the things that Lorelai acted like were the end of the world strictness). Honestly, Lorelai criticized her mom more than her mom ever did her. Emily always just wanted to be the best mom she could be, she helped Lorelai every chance she got and literally all she asked for was for Lorelai to spend time with her. Lorelai got annoyed at anything to do with her mom, like geez I get that ur life wasn’t perfect but at least Emily acted like a mom. Lorelai thought she did such a good job with Rory by being her friend (instead of mom) and she royally screwed Rory over. Lorelai was 10000x more stubborn, insufferable, ungrateful and irresponsible than her mom. The problem is she never wanted nor deserved a mom, she wanted a mom who didn’t give a rats ass about her and would just let her do anything she wanted. I grew up with a mom who didn’t give a f about me or my existence and I would kill to have a mom like Emily, as annoying as I know she was, at least she loved her daughter and wanted to be in her life and always tried to do her best with what she knew. She always had Lorelai’s back, and she loved her unconditionally as shitty as Lorelai treated her. People like Lorelai deserved to have been born and raised without any mother at all
100%
I also grew up with a mother who was more concerned over her own life and what she had going on so i was mostly ignored. Growing up i was able to do whatever i wanted. I did the most insane and embarrassing things. Now at 22, I’m embarrassed of who i use to be as a teenager. I grew up with no morals, no mother or father figure and it truly shows. Im 22 and i feel like I’m starting from scratch. Unlearning everything i use to do and considered “normal” and teaching myself to be a young woman with integrity.
Edit: As a teen u think ur invincible so u put urself in dangerous situations. If my mom cared more it would’ve saved me sm trauma.
Well,she was a teenager.
@@mh-jg4tv are u suggesting she acted differently when she was a 30-smth grown woman? She never stopped acting like a teenager, even in her 30s
Put those side rails up.
Growing up is realising that Lorelai’s parents did the best they could and she was a brat who put them through hell.
LOUDER
3:09 i feel this
I was in labor for 36 hours (after pictocin) unmedicated (didnt want to make my back worse
Had my water break close to two weeks before they had me emergency admited due to covid putting off my appointment and being sent home from er multiple times in a single week
They couldnt find any vein and i have sensory issues (usually under control but severly out of control from day 1 couldnt even touch dishes)
Everything hurt and i was pissed at everyone i even have documentation of it cause of my tiktok (started alot of shit and dont regret it since even afterwards i was still right)
Forbid for all of the bad stuff xxxx
Hello
Comunque l'attrice di Lorelai ragazzina era proprio bella. Chissà che fine ha fatto
I know!! So beautiful
I don’t remember this episode wtf
One thing I get annoyed by in the hospital scene is that Rory and lorelai’s eyes are both brown!!
I have rewatched this series no less than 8 times in its entirety. Its a go to for me. I loved Emily and Richard and in as much as Emily could be controlling, Lorelis actions were worse. Running away and keeping the baby away from the family was not justified. Lorelei turned out yo be a good mother but she was a brat as a kid. Always doing the opposite of what was asked of her. She sidetrackdd her own life and always blamed her parents for it. She realized her mistake when Rory started to spend more time with them and Lorelei got jealous because of the opportunities presented to Roey. The same opportunities that Lorelai ran away from.
Don't get me started with Rory. What a disappointment she turned out to be.
This is the one thing about Lorelei that I absolutely can’t stand. Lorelei’s selfish stubborn streak caused her to make her daughter’s life harder than it needed to be.
What are some of things that a child most needs to be a successful in life? A two-parent household. A good education. Financial security, etc. And Lorelei took all that away.
Chris was ready to marry her, but she stubbornly refused. So, she forced Rory to grow up in a fatherless household and then Rory was forced to watch her mother run through boyfriends. And as the child of single mother, nothing is more upsetting or disturbing than watching your mother run through boyfriends like candy. 😖 Anyway, although Rory grew up in a nice house for most of the series, I still can’t forget that Lorelei took her 1-year-old daughter out of her parents nice home and chose to live in in a shed instead. What mother in her right mind would voluntarily raise her toddler in a freaking shed? And for what? Some selfish desire to have “independence”? 😒 And then she keeps Rory’s grandparents out of her life for selfish reasons and this forces Emily to essentially blackmail her own daughter so that they could have a relationship with their grandchild. And then after all of this, Lorelei has the audacity to go back to her parents and ask them to fund her daughter’s education? How dare she. Honestly, the worst kind of people in the world are those who ignore family members until they want money from them. What happened to wanting to be independent and making her own way in life, hm? 🤔
And honestly, this is why I kinda feel sympathetic for Lorelei‘s parents. We’re they stuck-up snobs? Sure. But at the same time…they were good parents just trying to do the best by their daughter and they literally set up her to win in life. But she made a mistake and then she continued to spit in their faces after the fact. She was selfish, stubborn, childish, flighty, immature, and borderline self-destructive. And I feel never understand how the fandom defends Lorelei‘s decision making and parenting skills over her parents. They were the only ones with their heads on straight.
Dude she was sixteen. You seriously supporting child marriage against people’s consent? If it was a choice between being forced into marriage in a huge house vs freedom in a shed, I’m in the shed. Lorelei is flawed, but this is a horrid take.
A forced two-parent household is a horrible take! I know from experience that having only one parent present that loves you is a thousand times better than living with two parents that obviously don't love each other that much and are together just for you! Rory (and everyone) would have suffered much more in that situation. But in the end she actually grew up loved and safe with an entire town that cared for her instead of feeling like a mistake that ruined her parent's lives
She was literally screaming at her daughter while in labor. Lorelai didn't need to marry Christopher to be a good parent and he was barely there for them anyway..
Rory had a good education, went to Chilton and Yale and clearly had good grades prior to Chilton 🤷🏻♀️ seemed to have a pretty big house too, but I don't know what would be considered a decent living in the US. I'd rather be with one parent than with two parents who don't want to be together..a child needs parents who love each other.
@@bornarose11esattamente. È il senso di tutta la serie, che non a caso si conclude con Richard che ammette pubblicamente che Lorelai ha creato qualcosa di straordinario
unpopular opinion but Lorelai was just a spoiled brat who didn't appreciate what her parents gave her. Yes her mom might have been overbearing but still the attitude she had and just disrespect towards her parents after they chose to help her really turned me off.
I honestly cant stand lorelai. she ruined her life and everyone elses by having a baby. emily and richard just wanted her to have a successful happy life
He wasn’t perfect she was a teenager I love Emily but she did to much PRESSURE on her though to be a certain way and that wasn’t her but Emily did have her back as a mother should and the actress is PERFECT for Lorelei😂
@@janderson947 yes lauren graham is the perfect lorelai! I agree that emily put too much pressure on her but honestly it's not always bad to have pressure on you, it makes you strive for greater things.
As someone who was born to a barely 16 year old mother.....thanks. 😮
Do you know how much bravery it takes for a 16 year old to refuse everyone's demand she terminate, then their insistence that she adopt the baby out, to having her parents to raise me?
I only got 27 years with her, she died of ALS at 43. But I literally was never not grateful that she made that choice. And they were, (besides "I love you") the very last words I told he as she passed.
Yes, this was fiction, but maybe don't make sweeping generalisations. But they were also the experiences of plenty of young girls.
@@amna6024too much pressure destroys you
She didn't get pregnant on her own.
Why wouldn’t she just abort it? This is ridiculous.
Well because her mom didn’t want to and im sure she didn’t either
Because that's not an "it".
because she doesn’t want to
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Emily gilmore is a wonderful woman. Everytime I see titbits like these my hate towards lorelai increases. The trauma in lorelais life is her own doing hell... whats trauma when her parents were supportive? im thinking she must wanted to get rid of the baby but emily was against it so she went with it anyway since she cant hate rory for being born she hates emily. Things turned out ok for lorelai but when she did face a big crunch she did shamelesley turn to her parents. If she was strong independant she wld hv just worked like she worked when rory was a baby n send her to school instead of aproaching richard.
Oh my goodness this is the most overrated show🙄 so annoying
I am SHOCKED at the lack of hate for this corny ass show. I love fall, I want a cozy comfort show. But this shit just pisses me off.
Lorelai was a spoiled brat that never appreciated her mother. Now I feel better :)
Jesus saves ❤❤❤
Lorelai was so annoying smh she over complicated this