emily gilmore moments i think about a lot pt2
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2021
- this video is really short but i feel like u can get message it was more like understanding emily (kinda)
pt. 1 : • emily gilmore moments ...
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She's just a lonely person who was taught how a family should be and tried her best to raise her daughter and show love the way she was taught. When it blew up in her face, she didn't understand what went wrong because her point of view was all she knew. It took another generation to help her develop the relationship with her family, but she tried continuously throughout the entire series and made some changes in herself.
She was in her prime at the Revival. Loved her, she was so free with herself and just happy....truly what she deserved!
@@visualhatefvck I was so pleased with the end the revival gave her, she's made a lot of mistakes but I genuinely believed she thought she was doing the right thing
The pudding
@@piper3836 yes, the pudding! ♥ I agree with the original post so much
I think Emily loves through control. It’s part a reaction to anxiety. But the people she loves most, she feels she needs to control for their well-being. It’s a bit narcissistic and def unhealthy but it comes from a not awful place. Except for the maid thing. That’s def from an awful place haha.
lorelai's graduation always makes me tear up because of the looks on richard and emily's faces, it says so much without saying anything at all - something gilmore girls always excels at
It always got to me as well, how at first lorelai was annoyed by how extra her mother was. Then when she saw them almost to tears, she then realized that they were just proud of her.
Same here. Every.single.time. A great moment.
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Same here. Every time. Whew. I didn’t have that, so I loved it for itself and for what I missed.❤
that scene in the shed kills me every time, you can just see emily's heart breaking into a thousand little pieces...
Because she saw who poor they were and was upset that she let loralei live that life
@@Emma-rr3kp she was upset that Lorelai would rather live like that than live with her. It really drove home how terribly Lorelai felt and how miserable Emily had made her feel.
@@Emma-rr3kp nah, Rory very proudly showed Emily the first place they lived. The fact that they were happier in a shed than if they had stayed with her. That’s why Emily walked away, she was hurt.
All of your responses are correct. It was a bit of everything. Emily was both mad and hurt. Primarily mad at herself for the pain and misery she and Richard caused Lorelai. She’s also hurt that Lorelai chose to live a humble life with Rory than have the exuberant financial support of her family.
I think in her mind, she was imagining the hardships her daughter and granddaughter went through growing up. She probably also felt the guilt of having failed them both as a parent and grandparent….at that time
I think we can all agree that while Emily, Lorelai, Rory, and Luke still bicker, their relationships with one another have vastly improved over the years.
I always wanted to smack Rory for taking Emily there. For a supposed smart girl she can be so freaking stupid.
I think about how Richard told Lorelai that when she left Emily didn’t leave the bed for days and it crushed me
Yeah you can really tell that through her intention to make her family more elegant and under the shell of etiquette she’s a person with emotion and care for Lorelei. As much as Lorelei was not wanting to live the rich and elegant life she had care for Lorelei
@@Emma-rr3kp Lorelai didn't want to be controlled and under so much pressure all the time. Not just not live the rich elegant life
For a month or so I think… it was heartbreaking 💔
When was that?
Yeah… but I had a mother who was totally critical of me and didn’t offer any love. Just criticism and I still was not enough with good grades and proper manners. I moved in with my friend and her family when I was 16. I just told my mother and she said okay. And then when I was about age 24 she told me she cried so hard this one night when she realized I wasn’t ever coming back. Lol
sometimes kids do need to leave to save themselves and parents well deserve to lose them. Obviously Emily truly does care about Lorelei and was just using control as she was taught, but I liked this show for portraying how lack luster relationships are with parents and children. Emily’s character grew and became a better person and mother(and my favorite character!) But she needed and deserved to lose Lorelei for those years to understand how hard it was for her daughter
The most complex and interesting character in my opinion! At times, I think she hurt herself the most with that lack of self-awareness
Hopefully we can learn from it at least.
i dont agree that she doesnt have self awareness. What she was doing was right but not for some for some people. We have a saying in our language, "You are just going that way but we already went past that". Lorelai made mistakes that her mother trying to correct but Lorelai tend to make those mistakes to learn from her own bc she don't want to make the easy route. Both of the characters are superb
"Why cant we have what you and rory have?" Always breaks me bc emily sounds so innocent, bc of her lack of self awareness, she genuinely doesn't understand why she and lorelai have such a disconnection
What Lorelai and Rory have wasn't healthy either too.
That scene always gets underscored to me that Lorelei had never grown up. That was a teenager’s reaction. Same with the one right after. Lorelei is in her mid 30s and has never matured or taken accountability for how her actions impacted her family. I know a lot of girls I. Real life whose mothers tried the Lorelei best friends first thing. They thought it was great, but the pressure I saw it put on them was immense and unfair. They felt responsible for their mother’s well being because that is how best friends go.
Don’t get me wrong, Lorelei is a good person, she just had too much hubris and plenty of flaws. As many people do. And she could have shown her mother more compassion.
@@AmyJLiangit was aalot healthier then Lorelai andEmily relationship that's for sure.
@@banditsspies6759wow so an adult can't have fun when their in Thor 30's okay old women.
@@lauriecarson6483 Why hello Rory! Would you tell your s from your perspective what the reason was for your massive regression after high school followed by near total absence of responsibility after college? Also, would you say your mother’s unwillingness to commit to her most supportive relationship was a significant factor in your draw to men already in committed relationships?
I feel like the fact that Lorelei and Rory are best friends 1st, mother daughter 2nd is part of why Rory didn’t turn out as independent and driven as Lorelei. She talks a lot of smack about her mother’s critical nature but I can’t help but think it helped contribute to Lorelei’s need for independence which ended up driving her to become a successful business owner. While I’m sure there are many negative issues that resulted from Emily’s parenting methods you can clearly tell that it helped Lorelei develop thick skin and a drive to prove herself. Rory however driven academically was derailed whenever things became too difficult and completely lost it when she was criticized by Mitchum, going so far as to spiral out, committing a crime and dropping out of college. She wasn’t used to being told no or criticized often because her mother was always trying to be a supportive best friend.
being a parent means finding the balance between both
Being best friends with your kids first backfires. Rory needed more of a mom.
Pretty much yes. Lorelei had to work to get what she wanted even with her background and parents connections. No one really helped her because she wanted to do it on her own. She did developed thick skin that helped her stand more on her own when facing challenges and it never stopped her. Now Rory, alot of things she wanted were handed to her. She never faced challenges because someone was there to shield her from it. So yes when she was criticized by Mitchum, she couldn't handled it like most snowflakes who never heard the word no and gotten everything they wanted. You're not suppose to be best friends with your parent and Rory got less out of life with Lorelei being her best friend than her mother.
That's not really applicable to everone. Yes Lorelai had independence and drive and she had a strict mother. Christopher did not achieve independence or drive despite having strict parents. Correlation doesn't imply causation. People are just different.
@@andreahoward9421 I don't think that's true
My dad pointed out the scene the other day when she finds out Lorelei is engaged to Max because Sookie calls her about it. And then she goes and tells Richard to call to and apologize to Rory because he was awful to Dean. Then, she closes the door to his office, breaks down and cries. Yeah, that was a moment for me
I know most of these scenes are scenes emily caused but I seriously felt so bad for her while watching them
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@riti7074 All you triggered little girls calling Emily the villain are not only wrong but completely misguided. Setting rules & boundaries for your kids is what parents are supposed to do. Lorelai was rebellious and wanted things her way. She refused to follow even the basic rule most teenagers are taught about not having sx at 16. But she did & had Rory. And when Lorelai became a mother, she did what she wanted for Rory so turns out she was not any different from Emily after all. You need to grow up and thank your mother for what she did for you. No one is perfect.
Emily is a really polarizing character for obvious reasons, but she was the most consistently written and fascinating character in the series. Without her amazing arc in the Netflix sequel, it woulda been terrible
Her and Luke are my favorites because they both have that. Granted in completely opposite directions on opposite ends of the same spectrum. However Luke was always so stand pffish but he showed how much he cared when it came down to it and that was his priority. He may be stubborn but he was stubborn consistently. But Emily put her intention and interests above all else. She cared but how the girls affected her came first. She was self absorbed and couldn't see past her nose which meant no empathy/compassion. She never showed it. But they're both real people (or feel like it anyway) and I absolutely adore them for it.
Emily was the best character in the revival.
Well it was still terrible, just terrible with one bright bit in it
I both hated and loved Emily's arc. I hated Rory and Lorelai for not stepping up more, they were useless. Sad that Emily only had the maid there for her and that some strangers family is who she was surrounding herself with. Just made me really disgusted with Lorelai. She's always going to be that immature 16 year old brat who only cares about herself.
lorelai’s graduation always wrecks me
Same here!
Me too
As much as Emily was questionable and strict as a mom. She was never really upset about Rory’s birth and fully accepted the reality of it
If I remember correctly, Christopher's parents suggested terminating the pregnancy and Emily dismissed the idea out of hand. She accepted and loved Rory from the beginning.
I love the firm "You have never, nor will EVER be unwanted. DO YOU HEAR ME." talk she gave Rory after Christopher's parents rejected her.
@@AmyJLiang yeah that whole speech made me love emily. She knew it would hurt rory to hear what was said and came to her and told her no she isn't a disaptiontment. It is such a good moment
@@silencedogood9747wasn't it more because a termination was a taboo and more or less illegal ist most areas? It would at least bring shame over the woman and her family if the news spread. Richard suggested they would get married and Christopher would work in his company.
I’ve always felt Emily and Lorelai were much more alike than either wanted to admit.
Richard’s passing was the emancipation of Emily. She discovered she was kayak, just like Lorelai.
as someone who has distant and hard relationship with my mother, i love this show so much. it just make me feel that im not alone
Well said.
At least you have a mother.
@@dinaf.k5372 she wasn’t saying it for pity. stop trying to one up her. the world doesn’t revolve around you.
@@dinaf.k5372 rip bozo🤣🖕‼️ don’t beg for sympathy on the internet
ikr, i analyzed maybe thats why i love this show so much bcs i really wanna have that mother daughter relationship rory and lorelai had
When Emily snapped about the engagement and you see Lorelei finally shutting up… damn. That hits hard
It's Sookie's fault too.. she should have asked Lorelei too if she shared her big news with her mother when she knows that Lorelei has a rough relationship with them. Before you invite people to someone's bridal or baby shower, always should check with them if the main person whom you are doing this for if they shared their news with them.
Lorelai is always ready to point fingers, she did that to Luke in the revival. Accused him of hiding looking at franchise locations with Emily while she was lying about going to therapy.b
Can you imagine Emily's friends asking where lorelei is and she has to say "I don't know"😭
She wouldn't say it. She'd lie/be vague/invent a place for her daughter to be is how I imagine it. Mostly because enjoy didn't have genuine close friendships with bonding and hard truths and comforting each other at all. Emily cared more about her reputation among her friends than she ever trusted her friends to be there for her through anything. Her one and only confidant through tough stuff was Richard... And, ironically, occasionally Lorelai (maybe eventually Rory?)
Honestly, I feel as if Emily Gilmore gets more vindicated the older I get. She had a sense of duty and responsibility for her family, which within the larger context of what was going on with Lorelei when she was growing up, created a lot of clashes. However, it was clearly done with the intention of preparing Lorelei for the tough world ahead. And even when Lorelei stumbled, despite Lorelei saying really awful things to Emily, Emily never lost sight of her responsibilities as a mother. Pretty much everything she did, she did for her family, whether trying to maintain their social standing or helping them out when needed. She was genuinely selfless when it came to her family.
I just think Emily didn’t know how to communicate this to Lorelei as a teen, and couldn’t really deal with a daughter that was strong headed and confrontational, in large part because Lorelei is so very much like her mother. Each generation of the Gilmore women want nothing more than to be sure their daughter is happy, and each go about it in the way they see best forcibly.
You could bet, if we do get another special, Lorelei will probably start to become so much less Emily.
I love how Gilmore Girls isn’t afraid to show characters with blatant flaws. Everyone in this show is far from perfect, but that just makes it more real and relatable.
She was the saddest character in the show, she always tried to do her best and do good things for Lorelei and Rory but sometimes she was so afraid to lose them that she ended up making lots of mistakes. She must've been heartbroken when Lorelei left without telling them where she's going, Richard wasn't present and she raised Lorelei on her own. She was always so sad and lonely and I felt very bad for her throughout the series. I feel like Lorelei didn't appreciate her as much as she should've.
It’s more complicated than that, remember when she did not come home? Remember when she was other women? Remember the pool house? There are multiple times Rory makes difference choices, when baby comes there will be lots more.
The older I get, the more I lean towards Emily's side. As someone who grew up with a mother who has a "buddies first, mother second" mentality, I can honestly tell you that it doesn't work. Having to be the adult one in the relationship sucks.
Lorelai was more open minded and I think that's why she is the more appealing character for most people, but at the end of the day she was just like Emily. She had her strong personality and sense of humour, but she also forced Rory into the life SHE thought Rory should want. Whenever Rory tried something different, or wanted to be closer to her grandparents and the life she didn't want, Lorelai snapped in some way.
Oh and Emily's final arc in the neftlix show is what made the final series worth it. Rory sucks, and Lorelai didn't really grew up that much during the years we missed.
I grew up with an Emily. It was awful. It still is awful. Your kids aren’t an extension of you and they will run when you treat them as such. A mom is supposed to raise a child to be self sufficient and that includes being a shoulder during the tough times. People can’t learn self sufficiency when they are smothered.
I grew up with a Lorelai and while it looks cool on the outside, I had to do all my raising myself because my mom was busy being my friend when she should be an authoritative figure to give me discipline and guidance. I didn't know how to be accountable because I got away with everything.
@@tatinesaenzk I think when we are younger we all want freedom, so it's cool to have "a cool mom". But when you are older you realize structure and discipline ARE important and it leads to a serious of issues as an adult that aren't cool and fun anymore. Balance is important. I think that is part of the reason Rory failed as an adult, she didn't have any self awareness and couldn't properly interact with the real world.
I think Emily was too harsh, but Lorelai was too lenient.
@@tatinesaenzk just because your life was like that.doesn't mena everyone is like that. People handle it differently. I know alot of single parents who had their kids at 16 or 17 who was best friends with their kids and did so much for them. Nothing lwrong with it.
@@lauriecarson6483 I'm not generalizing, just agreeing with the original comment since we both obviously had the same type of young parent. Good on other young parents who did right by their kids. I'm just saying that while there are people who did it right, there were people who didn't, too. Us and the poster weren't as lucky.
Im so sorry for her sometimes
Actions have consequences. Yes, she didn't know better and made mistakes in the past. That's fine. But then she knew better and still made mistakes. Her ego was more important than her relationship. This is on her.
@@anechkagee5372 yes i know. But she tried to be better but didn’t know how sometimes. As she said, she was told to be a role model for her daughter and not a friend. And I think she couldn’t just let go of all she learned about parenting that easily. It’s hard to question everything you’ve done without drowning in guilt.
@@anouk.emilia2417 I wish she could go to therapy and figure it out, but then there would be no show 🤣.
@@anechkagee5372 yeah hahahh
3:15 "We are best friends first" is an incredibly toxic relationship between a parent and a child. I'm not saying you can't be friends with your child or the two of you can't enjoy your company, but your first job should be to PARENT your child. To constantly look out for their best interests and discipline them, things that friends don't need to do.
I believe that 100%!
I think parents need to parent until maybe around age 18, then the parenting can step back and be a bit more friend-like.
My mom and I are like that and it works for us!
@@bellerain381 Not a bad system :) And I'll wager your relationship is better for it
honestly i think thats why rory turned out like that
And Lorelai did just that MULTIPLE TIMES throughout the show! Where do you guys keep getting the impression that she was a bad mother?! Treating your kid with respect, allowing them their privacy, and sharing their interests is NOT "toxic"! 😂
@@Essenceofblood5238 yeah but coddling them and not challenging them could be just as crippling!
That scene with Lorelai's graduation, when Richard and Emily look at her with so much pride is one of the best moments in the series.
Every time Emily does something "bad" to Lorelai I get mad at her but when Lorelai bites back (justifiably) and Emily's face falls and sometimes her lips quiver I'm like awh poor sweetheart. Like wtf? She just has that effect on me probably because Kelly Bishop is so brilliant.
I’m the same but I think I feel bad for Emily because she’s not as self aware, she doesn’t understand the error in her ways so I feel she’s not actually malicious just acting in what’s been familiar to her for over 50 years, it’s justifiable that Lorelai snaps but I also can’t help but feel confused as to why Lorelai doesn’t recognize her mother’s antics as being natural and not inherently malicious, I think she’s a bit biased, also do you know the reason she left them the note? I always wondered why she left, her parents seemed upset about the pregnancy but ultimately accepted it so I couldn’t understand why Lorelai left what’s your take on it?
@@lordthetir I agree about Lorelai being biased. I feel like Lorelai, especially in the beginning, was introduced as someone who can get along with pretty much anyone (the whole town loves her) and tends to cut people some slack when necessary, so I find it difficult to understand why she can't extend the same curtesy to her own mother, at least some of the time. I've always had a bit of a hard time imagining what her childhood was really like. We are made to believe that it was awful, her parents were unbearable, she didn't fit in their lifestyle, etc. Which I don't doubt is true to a certain extent but I don't think she is a completely reliable narrator. I think the episode Dear Emily&Richard where we see some flashbacks clearly shows that. She always talked about how she embarrassed them and how she had to leave when in reality her leaving broke their hearts. I honestly don't know why she left the way she did. She stated once that she was very unhappy and needed to be someplace else and I get that but I don't think that is a reason enough to literally run away with their granddaughter and cut all ties with them. That's why I wish we knew more about her childhood so we could understand exactly what led up to that decision.
@@sarasara6253 I completely agree, maybe it’s just one of those cases like real life where things just happen and it’s a blame on each person yet each individual doesn’t want to recognize they all played a part in being faulty. I wish we could’ve seen more of her childhood as well.
@@lordthetir Exactly. Plus it seems to be hard for Emily and Lorelai to recognise what the other is feeling right of the bat. The realisation always comes later on. Part of the reason why I always felt more for Emily in this situations that they found themselves in is Lorelai had a much better support system. The only person Emily could go to was her husband and I'm not sure if that was always enough to bring her comfort. What do you think?
@@sarasara6253 absolutely I agree with that, Lorelai had built up what I see as genuine friendships and loyalties with people like Luke, Sookie, Michelle, her neighbors, fellow civilians and ofc her daughter Rory, where as Emily had “show” relationships and friendships, all of Emily’s were prone to being singular minded even amongst each other due to their social circles inclination to care more about appearance and reputation, and Richard wasn’t always exactly the best listener, it’s easy to see why Emily would get frustrated and go on crazy shopping sprees to express her emotions via commanding workers and being a bit rude and disrespectful, no doubt Lorelai’s support system is far better and more genuine, I really feel for Emily because as an older woman her household applies older rules and beliefs “woman handles home, husband works and provides” so I can see why Richard and her didn’t communicate as much, definitely love each other in their own ways but listening is a bit faulty between them
I cried multiple times throughout this
Welcome to the Club. 🙏🏻
Lorelais graduation always makes me cry 😭
Lorelei’s and Rory’s relationship may have been at the heart of the show, but Lorelei’s relationship with her parents was the backbone of the series.
The last one. That’s the one I think about.
Am I the only one who's crying over this and some of these beautiful comments here? 😂😭
Yes you are
@@lauriecarson6483please kindly fuck off you have been saying unnecessary mean comments on literally half the comments here and let me tell you nobody appreciates it.
Emily is the most well written character on the show, barr none, she has real growth from the stingy stuck up high society queen to a person to realizes her misgivings and grows a real relationship with her daughter and granddaughter, the arc of her growth as a character from the Pilot to the end of AYTL really does make her the 3rd Gilmore Girl
As I've gotten older (I'm almost Lorelai's age now!) I no longer really sympathize with either Rory or Lorelai as I did when I was younger. Instead, I feel myself rooting for Emily which is strange because she couldn't be more unlike me. Even though Lorelai has accomplished a lot since leaving Emily and Richard's home, I get the sense that she is still in some "arrested development" and eternally sixteen. Yes, she is able to raise Rory and their buddy-buddy relationship works for as long as it did because it was an unhealthy codependent one in which Rory acted as the responsible adult when Lorelai couldn't. We know that Emily had very strong guards around her, made even worse by the fact that Richard's mom never liked her (the First Lorelai), and perhaps some of that scrutiny and bitterness fell towards her daughter. But Emily gave Lorelai the space she wanted but also was always there for her daughter despite it all.
You mean like when she single-handedly tried to sabotage Lorelai & Luke's relationship by manipulating Christopher into showing up at the vow renewal in a half-baked plan to sweep Lorelai off her feet?
Or how about when she took it upon herself to contact Christopher shortly after he settled down with Sherry after learning of her pregnancy all in the hopes that Loreali could convince him to ABANDON his fiance and UNBORN CHILD?! All so Lorelai could end up with her blue-blooded high school sweetheart/baby daddy from "good breeding" because EMILY thought that was the best match! That way, EMILY could finally have the "perfect family" she always dreamed of!
Was that her "being there for her daughter"?! Was that the "space" she was giving her daughter? Bitch, please! 😄😅😂🤣
Let's not forget that she also pulled the same stunt with Rory! She actually put a pause on her "separation" with Richard to put on a happy couple face and throw a grand party in Rory's honor. A party that only featured young blue-blooded guys from equally "good breeding" being literally THROWN in Rory's face! All in the hopes that she might latch onto one of them and dump her dirt-poor "loser" boyfriend, Dean.
Was that her "being there" for her granddaughter? Or was that her merely trying to mould the poor and impressionable girl in her image? After all, we all saw what became of Rory chasing after one of those blue bloods from "good breeding," now didn't we?
For the record: I am NOT defending the train wreck that was "Rory & Dean 2.0"! That storyline NEVER should've happened! They should've ended his time on the show with the wrap-up of the cheating fallout! Although, I did appreciate his last episode full of friction with Luke and his very telling insight into the Gilmore Girls.
Moreover, I very much appreciated your viewpoint of considering the psychological effect that "First Lorelai's" abuse had on Emily; how she had trouble controlling where she put all that rage and pain. And most importantly, how it affected how she saw herself as a mother... and what she might've wanted to do differently, but couldn't see through.
I don't feel like I can deal with Emily behavior when I get older.
I feel bad for Emily. She was too overbearing and lost so many good moments with her daughter
I don't feel bad for her at all. She brought it on herself by being contrillig and manipulating. I feel bad for Lorelai.
Emily wasn’t perfect- but I 9/10 agreed with her when she fought with Lorelei. Lorelei was selfish and only cared about what she wanted. She did that with her parents, romantic interests, and her friends. And while being friends with your daughter is a good thing, you SHOULD be their parent first. She wanted a buddy- and Rory never learned to handle life on her own. Keeping Rory and Emily distant for years was wrong.
I agree with you about Lorelai wholeheartedly. But what interests me about this is that she gets it from Emily. Emily can't push past her own emotions to have empathy for anybody else. Which is why I always found it ironic when Lorelai hated being compared to Emily or insisting they were nothing alike when they're only real huge differences were tastes and parenting. They were both judgemental and selfish. Lorelai just learned how to treat employees.
That scene always made me cry because I had the exact same conversation with my mother. I remember being 6-7 and she had told she wouldn’t be my friend because she was mother, and mothers weren’t friends. I do think there should have been maybe a bit more discipline in lorelai and Rory’s relationship, and it certainly wasn’t perfect, but I think most of the flaws Rory developed were not developed from lorelai (except how horrible she was at romantic relationships) but rather a lot of her experiences in college. As far as Emily and lorelai, I think Emily holds just as much if not more blame than lorelai. Yes, a big element is that Emily is a product of how she was raised, but when their relationship never worked she should have started exploring other ways, admitting her own blame, and collaborating with lorelai on how to be a better mother to her. Instead she just insults and dismisses lorelai’s feelings.
Finally someone who gets it, I agree totally.
Lorelai was not selfeah at all. She helped her friends out when they asked.
Bull crap
“I wasn’t taught to be my best friend’s daughter.”
That’s how it should be.
She emotionally beat her with every critic she got in order to chenge the very core or her inner self, that's what a mother should be?
I somewhat agree with her. You should be mother and role model for your children, but once you start getting into the teen years you should work on a friendship aspect. As they become adults, they shouldn't be treated like children for two reasons: 1. Because they're very capable and naturally becoming more independent (otherwise you risk them becoming adults that are mentally children, or they resent you for never allowing any independence). 2. Because you will struggle to maintain a healthy relationship with them if you treat them as such. I like Lorelai and Rory's relationship but if I were her I would have reversed how to handle the roles. They should be mother and daughter first and best friends section, not the other way around.
I always felt the main issue between Lorelei and Emily was they were too similar. They both have very big personalities and there were times when the show did point out, no matter how much Lorelei might not like it she was like her mom. For instance, whenever we saw people from Emily and Richard’s circle they would comment how much Lorelei was like Emily, and the times Emily interacted with people in her own world you could see aspects of Lorelei’s personality. I think the reason Emily was critical of Lorelei was because she could see herself in her and she doesn’t understand why she could never just get with the program and do what was expected of her. After all, Emily was able to do it so why can’t Lorelei?
As a side note I think the reason Lorelei and Rory were able to get on so well was because they had different personalities. For all the superficial things they had in common Rory was an introvert who didn’t like to be the center of attention. She seemed more then comfortable being in the background and observing things around her. I think if Lorelei had actually had a daughter like her she would have struggled a lot more.
Complicated relationship but it requires them both to work on their communication. Creating a supportive and open space about talking about subjects that are really important.
Lorelei being a friend first and mom second to Rory is NOT a good thing.
It's not that deep
Well that's not for you to decide that is it.
@@lauriecarson6483no one said it’s something we can decide or not !
Don’t twist them words ! And actually it is NOT a good thing !
A mother should be a mother in first place …
And yes it is deep cause it can affect the child a lot, even tho luckily it didn’t a lot with Rory…
Also no one said that she is a bad mother …
If that’s the next thing ure trying to shove down our throats …
Emily at the end of the revival was so perfect ❤❤❤
Sometimes two people are put together in life and they just are like oil and water. That’s Lorelai & Emily. We can’t assume that they could live to be their most authentic selves & have a good relationship synonymously
I love Emily and how Kelly Bishop played her, showing her humanity even when she was at her worst. The only time I really disliked her was when she pushed Christopher to try to break up Luke and Lorelai at her vow renewal. Lorelai was finally in a good relationship and happy and her mom wanted Chris because of his breeding, not even because she liked him.
She's probably the biggest deal for this Show, she's that awful to like everybody, I fucking hate her behavior but then again, I feel endlessly sad for her because deep inside, we all can feel she has a heart but just can't change herself. She's a prisoner of her own. Great character!!!
I loved this show when it came out. Never missed an episode. As the series progressed. I became more and more empathic with Emily. It couldn't have been easy having a daughter like Lorelai. Especially when I saw this episode, it showed her in a different light than she had been presented in up until then. Far from kicking her daughter out when she discovered she was pregnant, she looked after her through the pregnancy, didn't try to force her to give up the baby, and provided a loving home for her and the baby. It was Lorelai who took off and stayed away. I got a kick out of Rory liking the things Lorelai had rebeled against and enjoying time with her grandparents. 😊
I loved that scene when they stole a robe from hotel together! Also I think it was one of few moments when there was truly HONEST, and normal chat between Emily and Lorelai (without this -sometimes too childish- sarcasm from Lorelai all the time) 🙂
Soooo... *yeah*
I've to start the show all over again. Just finished it few days ago.......for the ninth time.......here we go again! 🗽
the cast scene is so interesting. she still views her daughter as a kid and when you're a kid you always tell your parents when you got hurt. so she was surprised when lorelai didn't even though she's an adult now.
A prequel series about Lorelei's youth could be really good, like Young Sheldon.
Lorelei took Emily for granted, and froze her out when she could. Emily was the best, if Lorelei took a second to understand her mom she would've had a better relationship with her. But everything had to be on her terms. Even if it cost Rory a better chance at experiencing the privileged life her grandparents could give her, she hated, so obviously Rory would too, she should've taken a step back and given them a chance to bond while she was growing up
Emily was a good mom a times but she was to harsh when Lorelei was younger and that's why Lorelei left
@@kreativebunny6822 Emily can be harsh and conservative but Lorelei was super ungrateful most of the time and always wanted things to be her way, she would do things on purpose just because Emily wouldn't like it, ignore Emily's calls and make the friday night dinner look like a harsh "job" for her to keep up with when it was just her mother trying to participate in her life (which she spent the last 16 years out of)
Exactly!
@@sofia1593 bull crap
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Love these, you did a great job capturing the emotion 😢
You have one of the best Emily compilations here!
HOW TF DID THEY MAKE EMILY LOOK YOUNGER
I actually love Emily (apart from how she treats poorer people) and one of my favourite scenes from her is when she goes to tell Lorelai that she needs to compromise to maintain a relationship when Lorelai was married to Chris. She has a lot of morsels of wisdom to give. I also loved when she told Richard to apologise to Rory because Lorelai was getting married and didn't tell them. Emily knew the importance of relationships perhaps because of losing Lorelai. And watching her cry as she came back from her date with what'shisname (when separated from Richard) always makes me cry too - although I don't fully understand why she cried after having a seemingly good time, other than perhaps it made her miss her good times with Richard and realise that she wants to be a wife not date around. She puts on a tough exterior but she is so human. I would want to hug Emily if I wasn't poor lol she would be like why r u breathing my air
Yes, that scene always stuck with me too! It always made me think of how hard it is when you've been in a relationship for so long to start over. Especially when such a big part of her identity was being his wife.
love me some emily gilmore. she is so fascinating
I just realized Emily was relaxed about the Maid in the beginning scene. I wonder if she began having a maid problem after Lorelai left because she needed a sense of control ?
Graduation was ny fav!
Emily as a character has changed so much. Say what you will, she always cared for the well-being of her family. Even if her definition of "well" did not fit with her daughter and granddaughter. A strong woman.
My wife is always watching the series of gilmore girls on netflix and she is laughing and happy on this.
My husband hates it Becouse I watch it all the time since we met
@@Mellypri21 hehehe,,
Great job!
Emily had the best character arc. From start to finish.
I loved this video
The moment at 2:10 always kills me. Such a short scene but so much pain
These characters are so well developed. Rory only ever got positive praise and was literally broken by criticism. Despite signs that she was not receptive to feedback, Lorelei developed a strong sense of self while immersed in an environment with very rigid and , at time, unrealistic expectations. Emily did everything "right" but she can't fathom why she is not seen as a role model by those she holds dear when others admire her.
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Kelly Bishop was the perfect person to pay Emily Gilmore. Nobody else would have nailed it they way she did.
She was so right to be shocked by the shed
How are you going to live there when its cold?
Honestly, the memories episode should be more memories and least present or having more memories episodes, to give us a more completely perspective of how Lorelai felt about being alone with Rory
back when gilmore girls was good
I don't have issues with my mother, I actually have a pretty good relationship with her, and I don't have a daughter myself, but i still feel connected with this, and made me cry
It’s really crazy that throughout the entire show Emily always had moments of realization that she didn’t know Lorelai like she thought she did. Or that she may have been wrong or even once in a blue moon trying to bridge the gap. But Richard was just perfectly content with everything, never attempted to see her point of view never admitted he was wrong. I always thought Emily grew as a person during the course of the show, but the same couldn’t be said for Richard
this show is the reason i see my mum as a friend. we bonded over it.
Well I'm crying again
Emily is a very well-written character (actually all of them are), and Amy Sherman Palladino is a very good writer who can write subtly/subtexts that the actors can convey with brilliant and often understated acting. In Season 7, Amy had left the show and lesser writers had taken over. In Ep 15 "I'm a Kayak hear me roar" Emily is uncharacteristically verbose, and explains that life is like a Canoe, and she was partnered with Richard so that both of them could steer the canoe. But Loralei was in a Kayak - she was able to steer her life independently, without a partner. I like that Emily acknowledges Loralei's independence (and her own dependence) in that scene, but it was uncharacteristic of Emily to be so open...
Always love whenever Lorelai spends time with her parents
Emily is literally my favourite character
I really feel bad for Emily but sometimes I question. If I was really about to lose my daughter I would stop trying to be pretentious and actually listen to what she has to say.
Oh Emily - for all the things that high and mighty things done in life, we really get to see a lot of the low side loneliness of her life. So many great moments from her -- seeing her tear up during Lorelei's graduation she must have been so regretful on so many things that she wished to have experienced as a mother separate from her having to being the wife to a high society family.
Honestly, the scene with Lorelai's graduation made me annoyed at Lorelai more than anything else. Lorelai has a compulsive need for people to like her, even if they were near-perfect strangers she was meeting for the first time at her graduation and would likely never see again. Emily and Richard were so freaking proud of her and they wanted to show her that. Lorelai already knew their love language is gifts and big events, so all their efforts should have been taken as a sign of their love. While it may have been a little over-the-top, Lorelai sitting there putting down all their efforts talking about "rich people" just so she could fit in with her peers for five seconds instead of proudly stating, "Yeah, my parents are a little embarrassing but look how much they love me" made her seem incredibly immature for someone supposed to be in their mid-thirties at that point.
Even if she "knew" their love language, it doesn't mean she has to put up with it! And for that matter, why don't Richard and Emily bother learning HER love language?! Oh wait, I forgot, by your logic, everything that goes wrong in their relationship is Lorelai's fault! 😂
And why is it so terrible for her to want to fit in with her working class peers? She always identified with that cultural mindset more, that's EXACTLY why she left her parents' home (and world) to begin with!
The fact that her parents brazenly hijacked literally HALF of the entire auditorium without a shred of consideration for any of the other students or THEIR families and the fact that THEY might want to be able to cross the stage and have some photo or video ops during the ceremony without an entire camera crew bumping them around, equipped with industrial stage lighting burning into their faces says a lot more about THEIR maturity level than Lorelai's! And frankly, yours as well!
Btw, Lorelai did show some maturity and consideration for her parents earlier in this episode, which you clearly missed. She didn't want them at the graduation NOT because of spite or embarrassment, but because she felt that her throwing their dreams of a privileged future for her in their faces would upset or overwhelm them by inviting them to what might be perceived as a trivial accomplishment and a painful reminder of her wasted opportunities. And as you can see from the clip, she wasn't entirely wrong. They became far more emotional than anticipated, but of course, it was due to pride and the joy of finally having their moment of watching her graduate from SOMEWHERE!
So, while ultimately, I don't agree with her decision not to invite them, it still shows a great deal of insight and self-awareness on Lorelai's part. In the end, she was concerned about THEIR feelings every bit as much as her own! You certainly can't say the same about them! You can jump off that tired-ass Loreali hate train and have a seat now! 😁
That moment after they fight about lorelai's wedding where she says that her head is way to big for a veil and that she should wear a tiara because thats what she wore❤
Her and Luke are my favorites because they both have that. Granted in completely opposite directions on opposite ends of the same spectrum. However Luke was always so stand pffish but he showed how much he cared when it came down to it and that was his priority. He may be stubborn but he was stubborn consistently. But Emily put her intention and interests above all else. She cared but how the girls affected her came first. She was self absorbed and couldn't see past her nose which meant no empathy/compassion. She never showed it. But they're both real people (or feel like it anyway) and I absolutely adore them for it.
Emily is the perfect example of "You get what you give"...she's always doing and saying awful things to Lorelei and then she is "shocked" when Lorelei stands up for herself or doesn't want to include her in something or tell her something...but you made your bed sweetie...sorry. What kills me too is that she is always like "no, I'M the victim here"...and she like never apologizes...wow! The fact that Lorelei and we as the audience feel sorry for her says more about the amazing actress (as well as the kind of person Lorelei is, and the kind of people watching the show), than it does about the character -- who is frankly just not a good mother and kinda just a mean, sad person. I do like and appreciate that she makes the effort to change and become better later on (especially in the Netflix special). But yeah, she is difficult for me to watch...probably in part because I know someone like this too...and you can probably guess who that person is in relationship to me...
Well yeah Bc in her mind Emily gave her daughter everything she had and Lorelai spit in her face. Lorelai did the same thing to Rory that she accuses Emily of doing to her. When Rory quit Harvard Lorelei cut her off. She got pregnant at 16 and her parents supported her financially and didn't send her away. They didn't throw her away she ran. Lorelei throws ppl away.
Lorelai is actually dreadful in so many ways and Emily just doesn’t enable it the way everyone else does. Sure Emily can do wrong sometimes but no way in hell is she nearly as bad as you’re trying to pitch.
@@megmur1766 hey let it go you will be much happier smh.
@@10293 hey remember when Rory said your like a pop up book from hell to Paris that's you Mat
As much as I understood Lorelai and what she did, my heart was always breaking for Emily and Richard in certain situations.
She is my favourite character out of the whole show … the Friday night dinners are the best part
lorelai and Emily's relationship reminds me of my grandma and I. we have the same relationship where whatever I do it isn't enough for her, my grandma has been through a lot and tends to snap back harshly but still tries her best. I acknowledge it but it doesn't stop the hurt. it hurts so much. the last scene of lorelai asking Emily why she isn't enough ect ect reminds me of when I yelled at my grandma. ill never be enough but I try my best and hope she realizes one day
My daughter and I are "Mommy and Baby" ALWAYS!! Yes she's growing up and no longer needs me to feed her, dress her, and hold her hand as we cross the street, but she STILL needs me. I guide her, push her, challenge her and make sure she's always focused on what matters most. I'm not saying we're perfect, just that we're Mommy and Baby...and that to me is All that matters.
The role between kids and parents should always be, specially in the kids teenage years, as parent and child first, friends second.
This is my Mother.
Self-propelled Pride.
I love Emily
She did what she thought was right
Emily slays
Emily (and Paris) is the best character in the show, certainly the best written. I love her and while her values don‘t exactly with mine I can empathize with her brand of repression and confinement to what was instilled in her (and confinement to herself) way more than I can with entitled Lorelai and Rory
one of the most devastating parts of A Year in the Life for me was that Emily was left out of Lorelai and Luke's wedding. She would have been at the public ceremony sure, but they didn't bring her to the elopement. And it's a real shame, because I think that would have been a great way to show how much Lorelai and Emily had progressed in their relationship, and how they were making a genuine effort to understand one another, after years and years of estrangement. Lorelai agreed to tell Emily a deeply personal story about her relationship with Richard, something that required a really deep level of vulnerability that felt totally unnatural to her. (I am not entirely convinced that that pretzel story actually happened, I just know that Lorelai knew it was what Emily needed to hear). It would have been appropriate if Emily had responded to that act of love by doing something that was kind of out of the ordinary for her - like being present at an elopement that was not scheduled or conventional or "proper" but that absolutely did make her daughter happy. It would have shown how much Emily had grown, and that she was willing to embrace the daughter she had, regardless of whether she stuck to social conventions.
The wedding wasn't the real one. And why can't Lorelai and Like do it without Emily. My god Lorelai can do stuff without Emily being there
I think the fact that Lorelei was friends with Rory instead of her mother is a big part of why Rory ended up a big dud adrift in the world.
It made me so sad when Rory said they used to live in that tiny house idk why 😭
the comments section makes me realise how people wanting "complex female characters" is such a lie. people cannot appreciate emily without putting lorelai or rory down. All three Gilmore girls are amazing, and i genuinely struggle to understand why people hate Rory so much.
I've always loves Emily's character
3:23 this scene somehow explains it. Why she acts so protective of lorelai before and whatnot...
Richard talks exactly like my grandfather, exactly exactly exactly
I loved Emily. She’s the most interesting character. My only problem is her passive aggressiveness and unwillingness to admit fault. Yes, she did the best she could. And she had amazing character development. But she could never own up to when she was wrong. Or apologize when she over stepped. She didn’t respect Lorlai or Rory’s boundaries.
Well if she “respected Lorali’s boundaries”, she’d have ZERO relationship with Rory because Lorali and her incessant need to be separate would’ve cost Emily any time to really know Rory. Don’t forget, Emily was forced to basically blackmail her daughter to get any time with her and Rory. Emily may not have had much respect for lorali’s boundaries but Lorali made her boundaries ludicrous AND she has/had no respect for Emily. I side with Emily.
@@10293 she never let Lorelei have boundaries to begin with. Her way was always the right way. And damned if her daughter had anything else to say about it. That’s what drove Lorelei out. Her parents refused to hear what she had to say.
honestly, the last clip made me fully side with Emily, Lorelai is selfish and barely thinks what someone else might feel by her actions.
Yeah okay think again
I wish my dialogue writing skills were that good
I never noticed before that Emily did the exact thing with Rory that she was mad at Mia for doing. She took Rory in and gave her a home instead of sending her back to Lorelei.
Rory was 20 and went to her grandparents. Lorelai was a high school student, likely underage, who went to a stranger.
The 2 aren't the same.
@@janise01 she took Rory in and gave her a home instead of sending her back to Lorelei.... same thing she got mad at Mia for doing. Same thing.
@@BabyLettuce70 Again it's not the same. Mia was a stranger and Lorelai was a teenager. Emily is Rory's grandmother and Rory wasn't a child still in high school.
@@janise01 Did Rory run away? Yes. Did Rory get taken in? Yes. Did Rory get sent home? No. Are you on the spectrum? WTAF?
@@BabyLettuce70 Rory didn't run away. Rory wasn't a teenager living in her mom's house. She was a college student with her own apartment that she decided to leave to move into her grandparents' pool house.
Lorelai was a teenager who hadn't been living on her own who left her parents' house without a word.
What part of the difference are you not comprehending? Lorelai was a minor who went to a stranger. Rory was over 20 and went to her grandparents.
Kelly Bishop is a queen and only she could've played Emily Gilmore. Period.