It is a hard level.Ssomehow both harder to defend and harder to siege Mainly because there is not enough empty apace in the castle to build upon And harder to siege because its a very defensible fort with multiple small pockets. So if one falls, rest still could stand on and wait until the sieger's forces melt down trying to blitz into citadel
@Alexandria M Yeah that was a bit painfull to watch from time to time :D But remember that he was commenting while playing the battle. I wouldnt ve been able to do that tbh. Multitasking while talking can really be hard.
@Alexandria M Yeah, low usage of Legolas's "Uzi" ability, Gimli, Aragorn, Theoden and Eowyn should defend side entrance to castle and archers should take care of enemy ranged units first. The same group of crossbow Uruks on the outer wall was grinding elvish archers i guess wole time.
So many memories of this map in BFME2, I used to upgrade my elves with silven arrows and just wreck everything on hard difficulty. It wasn't challenging at all my my 15 year old self was loving every second of it
When this game first came out and I tried this mission... i failed... hard. Then I decided a change in tactics: recruit units for defense, but at the start, keep your heroes outside to the right. They will focus down a big part of the army and also are able to destroy atleast one of the camps a lot faster, making this mission way easier.
I love your enthusiasm for this game and your comment is gold. I watch your videos every day now. Your videos are better than Rings of power :D I love that there are people like you who keep this game alive. BFME is gold among RTS. I was 10 years old when bfme was released and I played the game to death and now I'm playing your 2.22 good campaign and it's hard as fock :D but new experience for sure. Greetings from Slovakia. Keep kicking ;)
The inner keep was seriously overpowered as a defensive position in this level. I found I was able to win on hard with nothing but my starting units and heroes simply by defending those two entrances to the courtyard.
There used to be a Custom map of Helms Deep for Killing Floor. It is to this day the best multiplayer experience I have ever had. Holding the wall against a couple thousand zombies with my friends and modern ordinance. Doesn't get any better than that. Damn I miss that map.
As I remember, I've abandoned the outer wall and placed whole my army in the castle. Uruks spent the half of time climbing to it, and I easily kept the narrow entrances to the citadel
You're so likeable and have a gentle voice. Also, I love your videos, especially when you still play my favourite game of all time. I was in middle school when I first played this game. Fun stuff
It would be nice to see the statistics after the mission as well, see how many units you killed/lost, economics graph etc. Just a thought for something to include in future videos!
I remember back in the days after beating the Good Campaign like 17346812 times, I would put some restrictions on my next runs voluntarily, for instanse, I would not buy fire arrows and not recruit elven warriors in this misson, and even suicide those elven reinforcements that come later by putting them right in front of the orc army, or sometimes I would allow them to blow the wall up and retreat to the main keep recreating the famous scene... ah, good times
I love this map! It was always my most-played in the campaign. question though, the aspect ratio looks a bit off, a little too wide, or is that just my eyes playing a trick on me. The pictures of the heroes look wider than they are tall and the map circle is wider than it is tall? Is that just because of the upload or does it look like that when you're playing the game
Now how many of us are coming from Ruuddevil and his friends? LOL. But even if we do, I think everyone can agree that anyone who streams these games are immediately loved haha
13:20 because it makes more money than a PC or console game can through micro-transaction. I played rise to war, season pass is like 20 alone then you would want more commanders and so on. In the end, i spent like 400 on it playing for like 15 days lol
Hey Shanks in regards to the insane AI can you just toss out the easy setting and place the original original normal files there. Then toss out the original normal and replace with the original hard AI. Then finally place insane in the original hard setting? this ways its still only three difficulty setting but now they are all upgraded.
@@keyboardtalk agreed, beside not that great at swapping files worried I'd break something. However if he dropped easy in the next update problems solved. 😀
ah, see i played the battle for middle earth 2 game, and i gotta say, if you play the elves and get them maxed out with weapons and armor upgrades? all you gotta do is put 3 units at the main gate and 2 ranger units on the side that have the long distance sniping ability? i have had a 3V1 max difficulty against the 3 mordor classes at once and they never make it past the front gate...the AI is very poorly done and repetitive and they ONLY go after the front gate so no matter how much they attack me they are all basically funneled into that one spot and are just blown away by archers before they do too much damage....sometimes they destroy the gate but by then there are so few units left that are already heavily damaged they get through the gate just to be finished off by the towers i set up behind it...and then i just repair the gate...usually i can just sit back and let themselves break against my defenses over and over and just rack up the points i need for special abilities and i can straight up destroy one of their bases if i hit them with everything at once, cuz i can summon a flood, tom bombadil, the ents, the eagles, a squad of hobbits, a barrage of arrows and a few other things and just annihilate an entire area before they all disappear...what i like to do is rinse and repeat that tactic (which takes a long while) but i use that time to max out my army with the best weapons and armor, back them up with at least one hero and then send them all out at once to attack the last base and then add the special perk units in as well and just obliterate them at the end....ah...good times
man i think the 1 ability of cloudbreak being disabled would make this mission so damn hard. the fire arrows n elves i could live with but that ability man was a game changer.
Hey Love your content. Is there anyone you can share this map? or do you have any coop maps for helms deep or minas tirith that I could play with a friend?
Hey Shanks! Why don't you add more levels to minas tirith in the campaign? There were 7 levels in the movie but only 2 in the game. And wouldn't it be nice to have the elven warriors reinforced in the Helm's deep mission that you trained in the second (Lothlorein) mission?
Are you one of the devs that made the defenders in the evil campgain have level 3 troops on Helms walls? Cause that is just to though to punch through with isengards army. Ladders can't reach the wall, Troops level 6 or lower get shredded in seconds.
@@BeyondStandards i only have these maps: * The Trilogy (Updated) Singleplayer * !RemoveZoomLimits (2) * No Cooldown Map Patch 2.22! (2) * Test Map Patch 2.22 (2) Do i need to repatch 2.22??
So I have been trying to find a video where someone was actually playing in the same conditions as I am for helm's deep...I am playing the 2.22 patch, playing on medium difficulty, I have only a command limit of 300, and EVERY battalion of uruks is fully levelled up with every upgrade, every last battalion has fire arrows, forged blades, heavy armor and bannermen. I have been able to hold up in the third level but during the third wave they breach the upper gate and shit gets messy. I have made it to when gandalf and eomer arrive but just as soon as they do another fully upgraded wave attacks and wipes them completely out. Is anyone else stuck facing this crazy impossible mission? I mean this video he has 750 command and the Uruks are WAY less upgraded. Its kind of ruining the game for me because I cant change the patch with my save and I can't pass this level no matter what.
Cair Andros was always my favorite And after that osgiliath They both have a hopeless defense feel where you have to build up for a counter offensive Osgiliath is more stressful trying to hold 3 bridges Where cair Andros you have the 2 fortresses at either end of the island constantly being swarmed
The commentator talking constantly for 36 MINUTES STRAIGHT WITHOUT BREATHING seriously ruined this video. Half the time i couldn't even understand what was being said since he just talked over the units and the constant sound effects of the scenario. Not that the commentary had much substance when i COULD understand it. It was pure chaos. Talk less, say more.
You know, when you were giving 'life lesson' about being able to love and respect everybody, no matter where they come from, at first, I laughed and completely agreed. But the next second I thought about some people invading your country, in order to genocide and ecocide, and their main goal is to (as they say) - wipe the entire nation of yours. This is where you cannot tolerate those 'people'. Hello from Ukraine.
have you ever played the Good campaign in this patch? I'm totally stuck at this Helm's Deep mission! Archers in this patch are do much weaker than in v1.0, I could barely hold until reinforcements, with uruks filling the whole keep xD and even then, fully upgraded 240 supply of Rohirrim that came with Eomer and Gandalf, couldn't even make a dent in Isengard's forces. I had full supply of Elven archers on the walls, backed by heroes and statues for buffs, but I didn't have Cloudbreak because you can't get it by then yet, while the siege will start with Isengard's Rain power x_x... Also flaming arrows are total sh*t vs ladders and siege xD EDIT: ^that's on EASY difficulty
This is how I remember this level felt on the easy setting when I played it for the first time at 9 years old.
Likewise dude!
It is a hard level.Ssomehow both harder to defend and harder to siege
Mainly because there is not enough empty apace in the castle to build upon
And harder to siege because its a very defensible fort with multiple small pockets. So if one falls, rest still could stand on and wait until the sieger's forces melt down trying to blitz into citadel
Me too, is there no way to play this version from years ago again? It was very difficult and real, just like the movie
@@Deilson_ just use the Patch 2.22 mod has everything
Same. It used to give me so much anxiety too.
The lack of fire arrows and purchasable Elven Warriors only increase the difficulty.
@Alexandria M Yeah that was a bit painfull to watch from time to time :D But remember that he was commenting while playing the battle. I wouldnt ve been able to do that tbh. Multitasking while talking can really be hard.
@Alexandria M Yeah, low usage of Legolas's "Uzi" ability, Gimli, Aragorn, Theoden and Eowyn should defend side entrance to castle and archers should take care of enemy ranged units first. The same group of crossbow Uruks on the outer wall was grinding elvish archers i guess wole time.
The series is a MASTERPIECE!
Shame on EA for not marketing it!
They’re probably going make another game when another trilogy of lord of the rings comes out or something like that just a theory.
They can't promote it.
EA doesn't have rights for Lord of the Rings since 2009.
@@gordanprgy6850 Source?
Wish battle for middle earth return of the witch king came back as a reboot with full licensing
The reason why EA don't remaster this is because the game is not woke...
So many memories of this map in BFME2, I used to upgrade my elves with silven arrows and just wreck everything on hard difficulty. It wasn't challenging at all my my 15 year old self was loving every second of it
I started laughing so hard at 23:50 minutes when he said "What are you celebrating for, guys? There is a huge evil army in your castle!"
This was always my favorite mission in this game. This is how I wish it was back in the day.
Morning from Middle Earth(NZ).
When this game first came out and I tried this mission... i failed... hard.
Then I decided a change in tactics: recruit units for defense, but at the start, keep your heroes outside to the right. They will focus down a big part of the army and also are able to destroy atleast one of the camps a lot faster, making this mission way easier.
The horn of Helm Hammerhand shall sound in the deep... one last time!!
Let this be the hour..
I love your enthusiasm for this game and your comment is gold. I watch your videos every day now. Your videos are better than Rings of power :D I love that there are people like you who keep this game alive. BFME is gold among RTS. I was 10 years old when bfme was released and I played the game to death and now I'm playing your 2.22 good campaign and it's hard as fock :D but new experience for sure. Greetings from Slovakia. Keep kicking ;)
Agree! Your comment is very relatable🎉🎉
The inner keep was seriously overpowered as a defensive position in this level. I found I was able to win on hard with nothing but my starting units and heroes simply by defending those two entrances to the courtyard.
There used to be a Custom map of Helms Deep for Killing Floor. It is to this day the best multiplayer experience I have ever had. Holding the wall against a couple thousand zombies with my friends and modern ordinance. Doesn't get any better than that. Damn I miss that map.
The good campain fortress defense missions are so insanely fun to play. I have yet to experience a similar mission in more modern games.
As I remember, I've abandoned the outer wall and placed whole my army in the castle. Uruks spent the half of time climbing to it, and I easily kept the narrow entrances to the citadel
You're so likeable and have a gentle voice. Also, I love your videos, especially when you still play my favourite game of all time. I was in middle school when I first played this game. Fun stuff
I remember playing this map years ago .. Truly miss this game .. elven arrows atop those top walls was amazing
It would be nice to see the statistics after the mission as well, see how many units you killed/lost, economics graph etc.
Just a thought for something to include in future videos!
Yeah I second this, I always find such things interesting :)
25:53 📸🤔 now we know why you love them uruks
Это было просто супер. Нефильтрованный эпик. Мурашки по коже от этого видео
I was an extra on Fellowship I was in the New Zealand 🇳🇿 Army at the time
I subbed! Awesome Video! I love this game Grew up playing it!
Awesome! Some realistic playing!
I remember back in the days after beating the Good Campaign like 17346812 times, I would put some restrictions on my next runs voluntarily, for instanse, I would not buy fire arrows and not recruit elven warriors in this misson, and even suicide those elven reinforcements that come later by putting them right in front of the orc army, or sometimes I would allow them to blow the wall up and retreat to the main keep recreating the famous scene... ah, good times
Good job I really enjoyed this!
I love this map! It was always my most-played in the campaign. question though, the aspect ratio looks a bit off, a little too wide, or is that just my eyes playing a trick on me. The pictures of the heroes look wider than they are tall and the map circle is wider than it is tall? Is that just because of the upload or does it look like that when you're playing the game
this is still the best rings game ever
Now how many of us are coming from Ruuddevil and his friends? LOL.
But even if we do, I think everyone can agree that anyone who streams these games are immediately loved haha
surely elves behind deeping wall providing constant support fire is useful?
Whats the Misty Mountaints Cold Version that play at 4:50 ?
first time i did this as a kid i trampled the walls with cav. it worked xD
13:20 because it makes more money than a PC or console game can through micro-transaction. I played rise to war, season pass is like 20 alone then you would want more commanders and so on. In the end, i spent like 400 on it playing for like 15 days lol
Wow this is such a nice map
Hey Shanks in regards to the insane AI can you just toss out the easy setting and place the original original normal files there. Then toss out the original normal and replace with the original hard AI. Then finally place insane in the original hard setting? this ways its still only three difficulty setting but now they are all upgraded.
I like this idea. The easy AI is useless
@@keyboardtalk agreed, beside not that great at swapping files worried I'd break something. However if he dropped easy in the next update problems solved. 😀
ah, see i played the battle for middle earth 2 game, and i gotta say, if you play the elves and get them maxed out with weapons and armor upgrades? all you gotta do is put 3 units at the main gate and 2 ranger units on the side that have the long distance sniping ability? i have had a 3V1 max difficulty against the 3 mordor classes at once and they never make it past the front gate...the AI is very poorly done and repetitive and they ONLY go after the front gate so no matter how much they attack me they are all basically funneled into that one spot and are just blown away by archers before they do too much damage....sometimes they destroy the gate but by then there are so few units left that are already heavily damaged they get through the gate just to be finished off by the towers i set up behind it...and then i just repair the gate...usually i can just sit back and let themselves break against my defenses over and over and just rack up the points i need for special abilities and i can straight up destroy one of their bases if i hit them with everything at once, cuz i can summon a flood, tom bombadil, the ents, the eagles, a squad of hobbits, a barrage of arrows and a few other things and just annihilate an entire area before they all disappear...what i like to do is rinse and repeat that tactic (which takes a long while) but i use that time to max out my army with the best weapons and armor, back them up with at least one hero and then send them all out at once to attack the last base and then add the special perk units in as well and just obliterate them at the end....ah...good times
Ladders are invulnerable now haha swarmed almost instantly
Gandalf cast an invisibility spell lmao
Masterpiece ✨
man i think the 1 ability of cloudbreak being disabled would make this mission so damn hard. the fire arrows n elves i could live with but that ability man was a game changer.
Is there any way to cheese that with rohirrim? I see way less pikemen than in the original mission
Hey Love your content. Is there anyone you can share this map? or do you have any coop maps for helms deep or minas tirith that I could play with a friend?
Gandalf got new abilities. Cool.
Why aren't ballistas shooting from a distance? They usually do when I play this mission.
I miss being able to play this
Gimli can throw the axe twice, first without rage, and with rage
I think you should have elfes and ents... they are in the films so it can be normal...
love ur work :D
This is very interesting how do you setup this mod bro? normal campaign way too easy for experienecd players
Can someone please link this custom maps so that I can download and play it? Thank you.
Can you play this map with friend online? Me and my brother are trying to play this map online but we were wondering if it is possible :)?
Were can i find this game these days i used to have it on disc but its sadly long gone 😢 hope anyone knows.
where can i buy that game ??? i only have it on cd but i have no cd rom or what ever
How can you set the command limit to 750? Does it work on the campaing?
If I remember correctly... I put Rohan horse archers on the walls hahaha. That somehow worked wonders
god this game was so good
Does anyone knows of a map like this but for BFME 2? bcs i have one of Minas Tirith, The Black Gate, and im missing Helms Deep :cc
Hey Shanks! Why don't you add more levels to minas tirith in the campaign? There were 7 levels in the movie but only 2 in the game.
And wouldn't it be nice to have the elven warriors reinforced in the Helm's deep mission that you trained in the second (Lothlorein) mission?
Are you one of the devs that made the defenders in the evil campgain have level 3 troops on Helms walls? Cause that is just to though to punch through with isengards army. Ladders can't reach the wall, Troops level 6 or lower get shredded in seconds.
hi shanks, i have the pach 2.22 but i didn found this costom map, where i find ?
It will be added to the next version in like a week
Do u guys know where can I buy this game and the second one!!!??? Or where can I download it?
Is it also multiplayer? like playin over lan
This game needs a remake
big wall go boom boom
Hey Shanks will you ever cast any games of battle for middle earth anymore?
hey bro, check the one video before this
Where can you get this game anymore? It's not on steam, epic or GOG.
Click on patch 2.22 (description) and get yourself the BFME launcher and thank me later
Where i found this game for upload?
Im already updated to 2.22 but i cant find this custom map. Where can i download it?
You can find it under „player made maps“
@@BeyondStandards i only have these maps:
* The Trilogy (Updated) Singleplayer
* !RemoveZoomLimits (2)
* No Cooldown Map Patch 2.22! (2)
* Test Map Patch 2.22 (2)
Do i need to repatch 2.22??
huh, we have not elven warriors but Eovin is in fight >
Did I hear Thorin? Not Theoden?
where can i get this game? to work on windows 10
You English is impeccable man, awesome video with funny commentary!
how do you play this map?
Do you have the Name of the Custom Map or the download link?
is it playable with 2 players?
2.22 campaign gets endless loading screen, does anyone else has it? İt was fine before that.
That's some challenge.
Bro I’ve been trying to play this game so bad recently how do I make it possible
Click on patch 2.22 in the description and thank me later
So I have been trying to find a video where someone was actually playing in the same conditions as I am for helm's deep...I am playing the 2.22 patch, playing on medium difficulty, I have only a command limit of 300, and EVERY battalion of uruks is fully levelled up with every upgrade, every last battalion has fire arrows, forged blades, heavy armor and bannermen. I have been able to hold up in the third level but during the third wave they breach the upper gate and shit gets messy. I have made it to when gandalf and eomer arrive but just as soon as they do another fully upgraded wave attacks and wipes them completely out. Is anyone else stuck facing this crazy impossible mission? I mean this video he has 750 command and the Uruks are WAY less upgraded. Its kind of ruining the game for me because I cant change the patch with my save and I can't pass this level no matter what.
Hey, im a huge lotr fan and have not played this game since 2010. But i cant find it anywhere, where can i buy it originally?
Search in youtube for bfme launcher 2.22
2:47 i don't know man, kinda sus...
1 more towards your 20k 👍🏼
masterpiece game
How do i get this game?
Have litterly not played it in 20years
Click on patch 2.22 in the description of the video and get yourself the BFME launcher
hahaha wee wee baguette
How do you get access to this game now?
Click on the patch 2.22 in the description of the video
where to download the map
It is included in the patch 2.22 , you can find it in „player made maps“
Invisible Gandalf? Did he take the ring?
Shanks can you do another BFME 1 download tutorial? I’m really struggling! Much love!
I unfortunately can’t, these videos are not allowed in youtube, I almost got my channel banned cuz of them
Type pirate proxy, pick one, profit
Love this game how can I play it again
this game ist top !! nice
Cair Andros was always my favorite
And after that osgiliath
They both have a hopeless defense feel where you have to build up for a counter offensive
Osgiliath is more stressful trying to hold 3 bridges
Where cair Andros you have the 2 fortresses at either end of the island constantly being swarmed
Book Battle of Helm´s Deep>>>>>Moovie Battle of Helm´s Deep
Hey guyz anybody got link to that map?
why move Theoden away from the archers :
I wish Boromir was there lol
And Haldir
The commentator talking constantly for 36 MINUTES STRAIGHT WITHOUT BREATHING seriously ruined this video. Half the time i couldn't even understand what was being said since he just talked over the units and the constant sound effects of the scenario. Not that the commentary had much substance when i COULD understand it. It was pure chaos. Talk less, say more.
Map link in desc please O=?
where is haldir?
You know, when you were giving 'life lesson' about being able to love and respect everybody, no matter where they come from, at first, I laughed and completely agreed.
But the next second I thought about some people invading your country, in order to genocide and ecocide, and their main goal is to (as they say) - wipe the entire nation of yours.
This is where you cannot tolerate those 'people'. Hello from Ukraine.
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have you ever played the Good campaign in this patch? I'm totally stuck at this Helm's Deep mission! Archers in this patch are do much weaker than in v1.0, I could barely hold until reinforcements, with uruks filling the whole keep xD and even then, fully upgraded 240 supply of Rohirrim that came with Eomer and Gandalf, couldn't even make a dent in Isengard's forces. I had full supply of Elven archers on the walls, backed by heroes and statues for buffs, but I didn't have Cloudbreak because you can't get it by then yet, while the siege will start with Isengard's Rain power x_x...
Also flaming arrows are total sh*t vs ladders and siege xD
EDIT: ^that's on EASY difficulty