Your ability to stall for time till the turbo comes in yet keep everyone's attention and keeping them pumped is nothing short of amazing...nice work lol
Having a custom box will always allow you to have a better (most importantly) sounding system as well as a nice looking one. But I hate the people who shame others for going with a pre-fabbed box. Not everyone has the tools and time to make their own box, and for people like me, who aren't concerned about having the most SPL we can get from sub and just want some nice bass while we're driving to the ski resort, without spending an entire day planning out and building a sub box, made it worth it for me
I get where you're coming from but subs are an amazing intro to electronics projects. No high voltage to kill yourself with, super easy wiring and the only tools you really need are a knife, saw and a drill. Building custom sound systems for burning man is how I got the confidence to start working on more complicated projects
Yep I was hitting 40hz in a pre fab box as soon as I went and did the work and designed my own box I was hitting 25hz even 20 with some songs but that drains my battery gotta do a big 3
Thats no real concern if its a sealed box. I put a subwoofer in my dads car, and that thing sounds very good. $70 sub, and a $25 box, plus a $7 terminal cup since it was missing. I havent heard much systems, but i doubt theres many systems that can beat it for such a cheap price. I made a few custom boxes, but those are super loud and clean, then again just the wood by itself is minimum $30 well that was a few years ago.
@@CajunReaper95 this is a generic box they got from china that they slapped a sticker on… lol they are all prefabs you are brainwashed into thinking it’s better. that sub can produce better lows & better highs in a box with more bandwidth that can also be made for the sub. the actual cubic foot of the box is only 1/12th of what actually differentiates a custom & a prefab.
is there anything Zach cant do? like seriously I'm binging the Money Pit playlist and this guy friggen does EVERYTHING, seriously hiring this guy was the best thing donut has ever done ever
My dad owned an audio shop at the time. Small town, less than 5,000 people year round. He installed 3 per day on average not including stereos. Made about 6 figures doing it.
So i'll add a couple of extra points here: 1. You should always go for an amp that is slightly more powerful than the sub because that will actually factor into how precisely your sub will kick. If the amp has a power reserve, then it wont be streched close to its limits and will hold the sub in place. You can always dial the amp down if you are getting distortions 2. Its nice that amp draw was explained but its also a good point to also check out how many amps worth of fuses are in your actual amp. 3. Line adapters/converters or more known as High-to-low converters are an option to add that needed RCA connection to stock headunits but almost always come with worse sound quality because you are splicing into speaker signals. 4. Theres also a 3rd type of enclosure: Bandpass 5. Huge props on actually knowing and explaining that enclosures are built to car parameters and volume needed for sub parameters and also that the the length of the port has an effect on frequency response. Also pro tip: If your enclosure is shallow you can often win some port length by going L shape. 6. Building a proper upto spec enclosure is always better than stock enclosures because you maximize the effectiveness of your sub. With some subs the difference is less noticeable with some its alot more noticeable. 7. I would've personally gone for a more directed sub + port direction into the cabin as currently the setup will be very close to the trunk and possibly some sound will get lost there. If it were built as directed into the cabin the result while inside would most probably be better. But anyway you did a nice job and i see you've done your research.
Bryton Guernsey tbh i noticed the awfully low eensitivity on that woofer when he was showing specs but other than that personally have 0 experience with Kicker. I’ve sold and installed Pioneer, Alpine, Hertz, Audison, Vibe (along with sub brands like Fli and FU), Morel, Focal, DLS, Magnat, Rockford Fosgate, SPL Dynamics and personally use DD Audio subs paired with a Hertz monoblock.
Sadly he hacked his port tube, the tuned frequency is higher than expected, and you can hear the sub bottoming out. He used the shortest dimension for the tube (I would have gone the longest pointing to the cabin) which really limited him. And a solid mdf board construction sucks vs a thin mdf fiberglass laminate. You can get the same internal volume in a smaller, stronger, and much lighter enclosure that has much better muted resonant frequencies.
I think that this is my favorite video from Donut so far. I still have a lot to watch, but this one is very easy to follow almost as a tutorial while being chill, funny, and engaging. I feel like Im in the garage with these guys and as someone who doesnt have people around who work on cars, this is incredible to experience. Thanks for making me feel like I belong in the projects🤘
Good video, I've built a heap of enclosures over the years and the explanation here was simple and easy to follow. I'd add a few small points; 1. When using MDF, always wear a mask when cutting or sanding. MDF is made with some pretty nasty chemicals and you don't want to be inhaling the dust. 2. If you are running power through your car (in the case of a battery in the front) it's a good idea to use some plastic conduit around the cable to protect it from damage. It's an extra level of protection against something going wrong. 3. Best practice is to run the power cable the opposite side to your fuel lines. Hope those tips help anyone looking to build their own box or do their own install. Well worth doing!
i had two garbage 12"s in my 02 honda accord in high school t hat me and my boys saved up all summer for. (yes, my homies pitched in to get these subs because all 5 of us would be mobbing in this whip for the next 3 years (we were poor boys)). broke two of my rear view mirrors off. oh man the memories of pulling into our high school parking lot at 730AM blasting fucking ignorant music.. what on earth were we thinking hahaha. starved for attention at that age.
@@henlolneh Standing outside my favorite dispensary and a car full of younger dudes leaving in a sttaight pipe civic wago-van bumping loud distorted bass all the body panels vibrating everyone was laughing at them i just smiled because that reminded me that was what me and my buddies did in my 1988 mercury Sable wagon and thought we were badass while everyone laughed at us.
I would get it but not with the dct. Don’t get me wrong. The automatic trans in the veloster seems great as far as autos go. But rolling gears on my own is my favorite way to drive or ride(motorcycle wise lol). And I live on Long Island so the roads and traffic here is horrendous and manual blowsssss a lot of the time but to me it’s worth the frustration haha. That’s just me though. I totally understand why people would rather have a dct for their daily driver
I’ve wanted the veloster n the 2019s are getting around 23 grand but that’s not performance pack but I would rather the manual I’ll probably get one around may
Really wish they would have explained that the gain is not a volume knob and shown how to set it correctly with either an dmm or an o-scope. You can tell he has made a couple of boxes before.
It prob does but not nothing insane it looks to be a "10 kicker L5" I used to like kicker when they was actually really good. Now I use Skar and Sundown orion mostly. I do have a old school Virtual technology 15" Sub and box combo it's 20 yrs old. The box is massive and slot ported single 15". I took the old vt out and put in a Skar EVL 15" in it on a Skar 1500 watt mono block and damn it slams lol. And I got 2 12" Skar DDXs I haven't used in months but they are insane. And some old ass Rockford Hex power 10"s and 18" and 2 12hex punch's. Then I got the old audiobahn subs remember those old flame subs lol. I got 4 12" natural sounds which ain't bad but they ain't the best but look good though n still in mint condition. Then I got 2 12" immortals which are bad ass those hit hard hard. And then I got 4 12" audiobahn compression serries which are 3k a pop n still run like new and are hella loud. Which I don't use em anymore. But got em. And 2 10" flame Q series that look identical to the compression subs just not as powerful. And then yesterday I picked up two aluminum x 12s which are a strange dual 6 ohm subs... They sound damn good n look good to. And then my prized subs iv had for a while which I'm actually selling are my old 15"s FI BTL ufo subs I got 2 of em in a ported box and two FI BL 15s which one has a bad coil still plays but coil is going bad. And then the 18s I got 4 of sundown X v2s which are also for sale.. and them I got 2 kicker L7 12s which I don't have a box for anymore which are supposed to be sold this Friday
He even measured the inside sound level of the diy sub with the trunk open which definitely makes a difference in air- and so sound-pressure. Measuring it with closed trunk like the kicker one it’d probably kick even more..
My F150 would sound better and louder if I rolled both windows down halfway. Sucked during winter and rain though. In a hatchback, facing the speakers up makes a huge difference as well. I have not had any vehicles with trunks so I cannot say if the direction they face (or the port) makes a difference.
A bunch of technical errors in his script. He was reading audio terms he didn't know, some were pronounced wrong, others were explained wrong and the measurement should be at 1 watt and one meter for standard sensitivity testing. Any other measurement can be taken anywhere but should be in the same spot to be able to accurately compare similar products.
I love this! sub sound quality relies a lot on the box rather than the sub itself. Having a good sub and amp helps a lot but it can all be wasted on poor air flow. I used to work at a small speaker shop on the west coast during the early 2000s and we hosted what we called a “box class”. The box class would give customers an idea why we were always trying to sell them a nice box rather than an expensive sub. During the box class we put a small 8” sub with proper porting and flow against a high end 18” woofer in a shit box and the improvements in the low and med range where insane!
This is so true, building a good box is alpha and omega for optimal subwoofer performance. I was struggling to find the right volume and porting for my Hertz Energy 12" subwoofer, kept experimenting with different porting and stuff. I just couldn't get it to play "right", it was outperformed by my two olde Hertz Energy 8" subwoofers! Welp, I decided to give it one last try with a sealed box instead and that gave me a huge surprise, it not only played much nicer, it was actually siginifcantly louder and more punchy. It went from meh performance to almost too much. I did of course brace the box and made it really strong and completely air tight, it's surprisingly heavy for it's size.
To get the most out of your money when installing a system I have used five-channel amps. I currently have 4, 3 Rockford Fosgate amps, and one pioneer. These amps run from 200-250$ on amazon. In each of my cars with these amps, they power four 6.5 inch door panels, and a 10 or 12-inch sub. In my opinion this is the best bang for your buck and these are enough to shake the glass on your car.
dear Donut Media, i think it would be pretty interesting if you guys did an Up To Speed on Donut Media itself, telling how the channel came to be, the backstory and everything else! just an idea i had when i woke up this morning tho.
At the climax of the build your sunglasses sitting on the box made me do a double take. It looked at first glance that you had two little ports pointing towards the back 😂
I appreciate how normal his garage is, like random supplies along the walls and his golf clubs right next to the work table. Shows how approachable a lot of the work he’s done on the series really is.
@ItsYaBoi ErrSkinnYP3n15 I know, but like how are there no seams? Like the carpet is 1 dimensional, it's flat. How did he manage to wrap it around a rectangular subwoofer without the seams showing or folds or the carpet overlapping? Or is it overlapping on the bottom where we can’t see?
@@phantommedia9964 the seams are on the flat surface, both ends and bottom. If you look closely at a box in store you'll see. It takes some experience and craftsmanship to build a decent box yourself. I've been building my own since high school
*This is what i did for a living back in the 80's and early 90's the pointers were ok but there are things you didn't cover that the average person trying this for the first time would never understand. FIRST a sealed box does not sound "muted" it's a controlled pressure or SPL (sound pressure level) that it creates inside the box and how it (depending on how it is mounted and which way it faces inside the car that makes ALL the difference. Ported boxes are for people that want a bunch of speaker inside their car / truck and don't have the room to have the correct airspace for all of the speakers they want you can tune a ported box for deeper bass but it's still not a controlled bass sound. You ONLY get that in a sealed box as long as your box is the proper size a sealed box will hit harder and stronger than any ported or banpass box ever will. The best you can do is build a sealed box in a place that you don't see it so that no one gets the idea of relieving you of it. in your case with the 240 the best thing you could have done is build the sub into a box under the package tray tilted slightly toward the rear of your car. building it in the deck of your car you would get a stronger reflective bass sound that hits harder and cleaner than any ported box ever could. I have heard some clean banpass boxes that sound almost as clean and good as sealed boxes but none that perform as well without cooking your sub's voice coils*
Daaaamn that ad on the 2021 Veloster N was so good. The buff guys are your best recent addition to the Donut Media Crew BTW. Edit : And Zac always killing it every video, thanks a lot
When I was in my late teens, early twenties I used to install Car stereos, speakers, amps, and subs, but I never once used any special software. I learned myself and from my friends that went to dB competitions. I don't do it anymore (much bigger and less flexible now), but I do miss the community that I used to be apart of. By the way, love your videos, they have been informative and very helpful.
LMAO in high school I used to install all my classmates’ subs and audio stuff for extra money, and I thought I was doing everything right. But after watching this I realized everything I did was all wrong 😂
@@bigboij3027 well for starts they didn't build the enclosure correctly at all just guessing there was no proper calculation of port area vs cbft or port length vs cbft to determine the tuning of the enclosure. The information on how to pick the wire and fuse was ok but hardly correct more of a yeah here you go try this rather than a this is how you do it. Anyone that actually knows about car audio gets a good laugh out of this video.
Finally, it's great to see that the RMS power and impedance were highlighted as the real specs to pay attention too. Good job! One note on enclosures though, you forgot to mention the bandpass subwoofer enclosure. Finally you should have mentioned how dB rating works to highlight the dB gain for store bought vs custom box because 1.5dB doesn't sound very impressive until you know that for every 3dB increase it requires twice the power. So a gain of 1.5dB is very impressive actually just for a different subwoofer box. "Bandpass boxes - If you are looking for bass sounds that boom well a bandpass box is the right fit for you. It wouldn’t be wrong to say that the bandpass box is a combination of a sealed and a ported design. Here, the subwoofer is carefully kept inside the enclosure that has two chambers, out of which one is of the ported design and the other belongs to the sealed design. The sound that comes out eventually is from the ported chamber. The sound is super-loud here, which is why this enclosure is considered the best to highlight the low bass notes for hard rock, rap, and hip-hop." -Source: AudioUntapped
There are many types of bandpass enclosures. The sealed box Inside a ported box is just one type. Also know As a 4th order There are advantages and disadvantages to every enclosure type. Generally speaking most setups will have best mix of results by going ported.. Unless Ur super tight on space... Then sealed is essentially Ur only option.
Dude this is the first money pit where I really had no idea how to do any of the stuff they do in the video and honestly man this series got like 10x better. Most of the time it was just me just being entertained but the education aspect is soooo nice
Amplifier power can exceed the woofer's power handling* . It doesn't hurt to have a bit of headroom for dynamics. Also, if deciding to upgrade subs, a new amp isn't necessary. *as long as you don't turn it up to the point of distortion.
With impedance rise, that amp will never hit the rms numbers. You should always get an amp that pushes a fair amount more than the power handling of the sub. That weak amp they chose will lead to clipping and a burnt coil.
I used to not like him, but after seeing him struggle and pull through on difficult projects and explaining car modding in a way that’s entertaining, and engaging. I agree, he’s honestly a great teacher
That's why they add all that filler in the box, its supposedly simulates the box being a little bit bigger, so you can undersize it to save room and material and add that stuff to help, I would still just build the right size box over adding that stuff
Volume is pressure cuz sound is created by agitating molecules. The more the molecules move the greater the pressure and therefore the greater the volume.
@@tylerviirland2413 Loudness, a subjective measure, is often confused with physical measures of sound strength such as sound pressure, sound pressure level (in decibels), sound intensity or sound power.
Me and my uncle built a custom sub box out of the cheapest plywood we could find (I was 16 and broke) and it turned out to sound better than most systems I've had since. Still blows my mind to this day.
I feel the need to correct this, Your sub doesnt have any output at a certain ohm load! Its the coil configuration of the sub, either a single or dual voice coil, that the impedance of that coil is dual 2 ohm. Remember, subs dont output wattage, they use it to produce sound. So a sub can be wired to anything from half ohm to 8ohms depending on coil configuration of the sub and the amps stable ohm loads
Im sure the subwoofer is a dual voice coil. In this case it has 2 voice coils at 2 ohms each. Only way to wire this as a single subwoofer is at 1 ohm or 4 ohm.
@@the_motek148 weil Meter die einzige richtige Einheit auf der Erde ist und ich immer nen Fragezeichen im Gesicht hab wenn die Jungs von 7,3 feet and 3,75 Inches reden.
@@juzzyvic ist mir bewusst. Hab mich nur gefragt weshalb es ihm Gänsehaut beschafft. Wäre er ein Amerikaner, der eben meter ablehnt, würde ich mich fragen was er dann meine.
My best setup was 2 alpine type s 12” with a kenwood 1000 watt amp in a Memphis box It took up whole trunk was not ported and my buddy was in the back seat one day and I had to turn it down because it was effecting his breathing. Loved that setup
Great Job on the video and series! There are a few things I would like to add. 1. Find out the low end frequency range of your sub/amp. You will waste time/money If your box is tuned to 20hz (port length and width), but your audio components can’t produce that sound properly. 2. Loud doesn’t always equal great sound. Never run your system at MAX. The sound will distort and sound bad. Turn up your head unit until clipping happens, back off a little bit. Then do the same at the amp with the head unit at the spot you found. That will be your max volume setup for great sound. There are tuning mics and programs (apps) that can help if you can’t get that sweet spot by ear. 3. Try to run your power/ground opposite your speaker wires. It minimizes possible interference. I think I have watched every one of these videos. Still waiting on the turbo lol.
Kicker box is using Polyfill to make the effective internal volume larger than it actually is.That's why when Zach calculated the internal volume, it was smaller than they recommend. Definitely glossed over some important info, but over all i commend you on trying to cover such a complex topic as speaker enclosure design, and make it interesting for the casual viewer. haha
lmao your sponsor ad was the most epic yet ahahah hyundai must be very happy with it you guys got the best editor haha cheers and keep up the grind guys!!!!!!!!! love your channel!
One more tip: Run your power and audio cables separately. The power cables can interfere with the audio signals degrading your audio quality. My father is an electronics technician and taught me this at a young age. I personally hook up my sub systems with quick connects so they can be easily and safely removed when I need trunk space. I have the power cables connected with (can’t remember the name) the same connectors you see on forklift batteries. Audio cables have crimped ferrules, remote wire has a Deutsch connector. Every connection is safe when unplugged, even the power connector has a rubber plug to keep it from getting shorted out. I have two sub boxes with the amp attached to one of the boxes. My capacitor is hard mounted and hidden behind an access panel in the trunk.
Also keep your ground wire as short as possible.. audio wires up driver side, power wires up passenger side. If your battery is not in the trunk use a capacitor.. I have done a few different systems in my days and am itching to do one in my next car :)
I did the prefab route with my last sub replacement. My 2014 Focus ST had the stock 8" sub box in it, and I replaced it with a Kicker Comp RT 43TCWRT672 6.75" sub box, and I am driving it with an Audio control LC2i, and a Kicker DXA250.1 amp. It plays louder, deeper and harder than the OEM Resin box, plus it is actually smaller and lighter too. I went this way, because I still use the cargo/hatch area everyday.
I love it, built a custom ported one for 2 10's once before my car was stolen, then I had another ported box with a plexiglass cover to protect the speakers once, put lights in that to match the beat and it was badass.
I don't know what is with Hyundais but their gear boxes are just so wonderful to shift and just love to click into where they need to go. When my driving instructor pulled up in a i30 after previously learning in one I knew I was in for a nice time. Wish I could afford one though!
Still not great cars. I’ve driven the last couple of their hot hatches. They’re cheap feeling, disconnected and just crappy in general. They create an insane feature list, but don’t execute it very well. Their marketing dept. certainly works very hard.
I bought an pre-made enclosure for my sub. It was like $80 and it sounds awesome. I did a lot of research first so I made sure to find the one that has the proper volume and tuning for my Sub. I'm not loaded so I just got the cheapest DVC Kicker that I could get which was a comp c, which is like 300w rms. I got a matching kicker d mono class sub and it's pretty awesome in my 2003 Honda Accord Coupe. Only cost a few hundred dollars for the box, sub and amp. and another i think $50 or so for the wiring kit.
In Sweden our car culture is a lot about the sound systems, we build crazy systems in our volvos and trucks like nissan king cabs. We build with bass speaker and every thing, I don't think many people know that
Same here in Finland. I build sound systems to cars before I even got the license. 😁 It was in the beginning of 2000’s with the computer programs to calculate/simulate boxes. I was like 13y old when started to build boxes for making home subs. 😂 Still using winISD pro. Always got the “wondering” from other people that how I was so loud and pretty clear too. 😁 (Because I build and design my boxes) 😁
So I'm not a "car guy" but I do find these videos amazing because of how their directed. Of course each of your characters are great as well. On a different note I live offgrid and have one sketchy part of my solar set up that you just taught me how to fix. Thanks
The kicker box was smaller because it had pollyfil to help make up for more space. If you add pollyfil to the box it should improve. Also the port length is determined by the port diameter and desired tune frequency
I loved this video. My introduction to car culture was sound systems. I currently have a 12 civic with 2 15, 4 tweeters, and 8 midrange speakers spread around.
Two things: You could have had a longer port had you run it out of the side of the box (less chance pf filling it with spilled M&Ms), and 5th Order Isobaric speaker boxes have been around since the 90s. Sealed boxes with nothing but ports that feel like a fist punching you with air. I've only recently discovered your video channel, and dig what you guys do. Keep up the work!
I wish they would've talked about ACTUAL rms and max ratings being inflated and how to calculate based on the number of fuses on the amp, and the importance of port direction. I've had thousands in sound systems.this was a good starter video. But there's WAY more to a system design behind the scenes
But the average car enthusiast just wants some bump in their car. For what this channel does, it was fine. There are other youtube channels that focus on just car audio that go in way deeper.
@@Penguinboy1995 it's not true because I left out a word. Lol I meant max "efficient" wattage, which is 100% true. So if you have two 50-Amp fuses that's 100x14.4=1,440 That's all the efficient wrms watts can do.
@@isaiahwade1484 and that isn't going to happen. And we know that based on ohm load (drivers are not a static ohm load, so they always fluctuate) and voltage isn't always steady. But it's a lot better than it used to be with the lithium banks people use now. I see guys running 30+ kW with as little as .1 volt of drop, full tilt. But still, it's a good ball park. And if your amp has built in fuses, it's practice to fuse for the wires capacity and not the amp. And in most cases fuses won't melt straight away. It takes time for the heat to build up, unless it's a dead short. There is a ton to this car audio stuff people aren't even aware of. Not saying you, but people in general.
Donut, I have a conspiracy for you. I think you’re watching me. A week before you guys started uploading money pit videos. I bought a 93 miata. Then you guys start uploading and I’m like cool! I’ll follow along, then realized I’m broke and you guys aren’t lmao. But there have been a few things that have happened that we’ve done at the same time and it’s kind of creepy. I think you guys are watching me or something. You uploaded the headunit video the day I started changing mine. You uploaded the wheel video a day after I ordered mine. The headlight video 3 days after I ordered mine. My steering wheel got delivered same day as your upload. And now this. A subwoofer video. After I just changed all the speakers in my car. watt.
I’m wanting to do a 280z build based off of the vehicles in Tron Legacy, and man, these videos have helped me so much with knowing what I need, what I want, and what’s unrealistic
Haha yeah you heard that because I did too. He's not near into car audio like he's trying to make out to be in the video. Just like the 150-Amp breaker was a HUGE overkill and actually dangerous for the amp. Now it'll cook before the breaker kills it. Lol
@@Jenuin He also built the box completely wrong for a shallow trunk like that. The sub should not have been facing up because there's not enough airspace above the sub's excursion. It should've been built to face the back on about a 55-65 degree angle. People face them up in something like an SUV simply because of all the airspace above them.
Your ability to stall for time till the turbo comes in yet keep everyone's attention and keeping them pumped is nothing short of amazing...nice work lol
im waitinggggggggggggggggggggg
It’s not stalling...it’s prepping for the turbo..so he says
My balls never been this blue because of me waiting for the turbo video
it's funding the turbo as well 🤣
donut media : "alot of bass"
me: yeaaah rigth 600w 8" sub ... ahha
donut: throwing away anl fuse for auto fuse
me: rip
Not even going to lie that was the most beautiful ad I’ve ever had the pleasure of watching
Fr blow my mind while geeked 😂
True legit
Better than the actual video
Glad Money Pit wasn't skipped. This is the highlight of my week.
True
Having a custom box will always allow you to have a better (most importantly) sounding system as well as a nice looking one. But I hate the people who shame others for going with a pre-fabbed box. Not everyone has the tools and time to make their own box, and for people like me, who aren't concerned about having the most SPL we can get from sub and just want some nice bass while we're driving to the ski resort, without spending an entire day planning out and building a sub box, made it worth it for me
I get where you're coming from but subs are an amazing intro to electronics projects. No high voltage to kill yourself with, super easy wiring and the only tools you really need are a knife, saw and a drill. Building custom sound systems for burning man is how I got the confidence to start working on more complicated projects
you do realize prefab boxes aren’t bad because they are quiet but because they are quiet & are tuned high asf so you get 0 lows. which literally sucks
Yep I was hitting 40hz in a pre fab box as soon as I went and did the work and designed my own box I was hitting 25hz even 20 with some songs but that drains my battery gotta do a big 3
Thats no real concern if its a sealed box. I put a subwoofer in my dads car, and that thing sounds very good. $70 sub, and a $25 box, plus a $7 terminal cup since it was missing. I havent heard much systems, but i doubt theres many systems that can beat it for such a cheap price. I made a few custom boxes, but those are super loud and clean, then again just the wood by itself is minimum $30 well that was a few years ago.
@@CajunReaper95 this is a generic box they got from china that they slapped a sticker on… lol they are all prefabs you are brainwashed into thinking it’s better. that sub can produce better lows & better highs in a box with more bandwidth that can also be made for the sub. the actual cubic foot of the box is only 1/12th of what actually differentiates a custom & a prefab.
2021: *turbo still not here*
Zach: *How to make your own car from the ground up (part 5)*
@@morebrainmoregains3234 Tbh Hi-Low was more of a money pit than Money Pit
Money Pit is still the best series. Dont tell James i said that.
I still wonder what happened to Up to Speed. :(
@@carguy4452 I would guess due to the 'rona they are unable to do it due to social distancing or something idk
Yuppp, i dont even own a miata and i never will but i still love money pit!!!
yes Money Pit is very good, not only the content but Zach also delivers a very great job
Lol where is high low
Man, Wednesday's are my favorite days just because of Money Pit
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is there anything Zach cant do? like seriously I'm binging the Money Pit playlist and this guy friggen does EVERYTHING, seriously hiring this guy was the best thing donut has ever done ever
His taxes probably
@@Ftoyou2 why would you say that lmaoo, did he commit tax fraud or something?
Well he can't probably set low pass on his amp.
Where’s Zach today?
@@thomasharris5151idk at home I’d assume, it’s Sunday after all
this was literally one of the best commercials donut has ever done
Well, it's easier to advertise a Veloster N than something like Raycon's Shadow ExpressVPN Legends.
What's the song that the ad has at the beginning
My guy James got some cool body guards they should have buff horses t-shirts 🙌🏽
Thank you Dr. Bipul Kumar Majumder
Man Your face is so serious even if I wanted to disagree I can’t. 🍩 = 🐐
I am Zack this is moneypit, and we are having a really hard time getting our hands on a turbo kit
If the soon-to-be turbo isnt spitting hot fumes, This comment will...
We are getting ready for the track by adding mdf to the trunk!
Whoa whoa, claim down Mr. Nichols
Part of me wonders why they just don't bother with a Supercharger setup instead.
@@iLupi superchargers are less efficient and therefore not as powerful
100% the best ad segway in a long time, it was genuinely interesting and well worth Hyundai's money
Highschool in the early 2000's this was more important than the rest of the car.
I knew a few kids at school where the stereo was worth more than the car.
I had a buddy with a minivan that bowed out the windows on the regular lol
My dad owned an audio shop at the time. Small town, less than 5,000 people year round. He installed 3 per day on average not including stereos. Made about 6 figures doing it.
Definitely was a bigger thing in the past. I’m in my senior year and currently making an attempt at doing a $2000 build in my $1500 Suburban.
With 2nd gen dodge pickup owners it still is
So i'll add a couple of extra points here:
1. You should always go for an amp that is slightly more powerful than the sub because that will actually factor into how precisely your sub will kick. If the amp has a power reserve, then it wont be streched close to its limits and will hold the sub in place. You can always dial the amp down if you are getting distortions
2. Its nice that amp draw was explained but its also a good point to also check out how many amps worth of fuses are in your actual amp.
3. Line adapters/converters or more known as High-to-low converters are an option to add that needed RCA connection to stock headunits but almost always come with worse sound quality because you are splicing into speaker signals.
4. Theres also a 3rd type of enclosure: Bandpass
5. Huge props on actually knowing and explaining that enclosures are built to car parameters and volume needed for sub parameters and also that the the length of the port has an effect on frequency response. Also pro tip: If your enclosure is shallow you can often win some port length by going L shape.
6. Building a proper upto spec enclosure is always better than stock enclosures because you maximize the effectiveness of your sub. With some subs the difference is less noticeable with some its alot more noticeable.
7. I would've personally gone for a more directed sub + port direction into the cabin as currently the setup will be very close to the trunk and possibly some sound will get lost there. If it were built as directed into the cabin the result while inside would most probably be better.
But anyway you did a nice job and i see you've done your research.
All of this! ‼️‼️
Great comment. However you did glance over the poor choice in woofer itself
@@LewdnCute L7s are perfect for casuals lol
Bryton Guernsey tbh i noticed the awfully low eensitivity on that woofer when he was showing specs but other than that personally have 0 experience with Kicker. I’ve sold and installed Pioneer, Alpine, Hertz, Audison, Vibe (along with sub brands like Fli and FU), Morel, Focal, DLS, Magnat, Rockford Fosgate, SPL Dynamics and personally use DD Audio subs paired with a Hertz monoblock.
Sadly he hacked his port tube, the tuned frequency is higher than expected, and you can hear the sub bottoming out. He used the shortest dimension for the tube (I would have gone the longest pointing to the cabin) which really limited him. And a solid mdf board construction sucks vs a thin mdf fiberglass laminate. You can get the same internal volume in a smaller, stronger, and much lighter enclosure that has much better muted resonant frequencies.
Zack: explains specifications for amps clearly.
Me: “I like your funny words magic man!”
I think that this is my favorite video from Donut so far. I still have a lot to watch, but this one is very easy to follow almost as a tutorial while being chill, funny, and engaging. I feel like Im in the garage with these guys and as someone who doesnt have people around who work on cars, this is incredible to experience. Thanks for making me feel like I belong in the projects🤘
Zack feels like a cool brother who just explains the world to you
He’s a great role model
He's more like the gas station crackhead that thinks he know everything but doesn't actually know anything.
@@alexklein455 Disagree
@@alexklein455 Except he has a degree and and actually knows what's he's talking about 😂😂 Imagine being that dense
Honestly.
I've been a bass head for almost 20 years. They gave solid info. I also like when new bass heads think the cops are always on the way.
I keep reading this as bass the fish and it is mildly amusung
@@falloutman3424 lol
My factory VW is very nice
When I was 16 I got a single p2 rockford 10 inch and though it was awsome. 4 years later now I've got 2 w3v3 12w and it's way better.
If you’ve been a bass head for 20 years then you know that if the speaker comes closed then you ain’t suppose to port it
You guys are the only people who have ever made me say “dang man I want a hyundai” that car is awesome
I agree. I was super intrigued when he says it shifts quicker than an m3.
@UCK3Ms_GPXOZDB_GyEgtm7AA why I bought a newer Honda w/ the 2.0l n/a
Wut
It’s a fun ass car to drive
them little hyundai’s are fun to drive. i went from one of those to a 370z and the lil hyundai is almost as fun for like 1/3rd of the cost
Good video, I've built a heap of enclosures over the years and the explanation here was simple and easy to follow.
I'd add a few small points;
1. When using MDF, always wear a mask when cutting or sanding. MDF is made with some pretty nasty chemicals and you don't want to be inhaling the dust.
2. If you are running power through your car (in the case of a battery in the front) it's a good idea to use some plastic conduit around the cable to protect it from damage. It's an extra level of protection against something going wrong.
3. Best practice is to run the power cable the opposite side to your fuel lines.
Hope those tips help anyone looking to build their own box or do their own install. Well worth doing!
I had a sub in my first car, it will make my mirrors fall from time to time..VW Golf mk 2
i had two garbage 12"s in my 02 honda accord in high school t hat me and my boys saved up all summer for. (yes, my homies pitched in to get these subs because all 5 of us would be mobbing in this whip for the next 3 years (we were poor boys)). broke two of my rear view mirrors off. oh man the memories of pulling into our high school parking lot at 730AM blasting fucking ignorant music.. what on earth were we thinking hahaha. starved for attention at that age.
@@henlolneh LOL,
@@henlolneh Standing outside my favorite dispensary and a car full of younger dudes leaving in a sttaight pipe civic wago-van bumping loud distorted bass all the body panels vibrating everyone was laughing at them i just smiled because that reminded me that was what me and my buddies did in my 1988 mercury Sable wagon and thought we were badass while everyone laughed at us.
Well it was a VW so the mirrors may have just done that anyway :)
Lol my mirrors shake and are almost unusable when my subs kick in.
Can we talk about how a car ad actually made me want a car for the first time in a long time
Same I want that car now
Yea, like the veloster was pretty meh and one of those wanna be rice cars until I saw that!
I would get it but not with the dct. Don’t get me wrong. The automatic trans in the veloster seems great as far as autos go. But rolling gears on my own is my favorite way to drive or ride(motorcycle wise lol). And I live on Long Island so the roads and traffic here is horrendous and manual blowsssss a lot of the time but to me it’s worth the frustration haha. That’s just me though. I totally understand why people would rather have a dct for their daily driver
@@johnnyskellington9581 well, let's not forget that it's a gdi. that alone should steer you away from the car.
I’ve wanted the veloster n the 2019s are getting around 23 grand but that’s not performance pack but I would rather the manual I’ll probably get one around may
Once I heard him testing bass with that song... My nostalgia kicked in... I'm crying from happiness xD
He's gonna do an air freshener comparison next.
Pine trees or nothing.
diy air freshener
Nah DIY lug nuts
@@samuelmarshall8808 from mdf
@@NikiIhsanul 😂😂
Zack: turbo?
Part supply: nah we got subs tho
We need the answer to the question everybody is asking...."do it bump, doe?". Great vid fam
You should have helped him.
@ Joe Bifulco If he did it wwouldn't be a question of "Do it bump doe?" Lol. BiG D Wiz for the WIN!
Really wish they would have explained that the gain is not a volume knob and shown how to set it correctly with either an dmm or an o-scope. You can tell he has made a couple of boxes before.
It prob does but not nothing insane it looks to be a "10 kicker L5" I used to like kicker when they was actually really good. Now I use Skar and Sundown orion mostly. I do have a old school Virtual technology 15" Sub and box combo it's 20 yrs old. The box is massive and slot ported single 15". I took the old vt out and put in a Skar EVL 15" in it on a Skar 1500 watt mono block and damn it slams lol. And I got 2 12" Skar DDXs I haven't used in months but they are insane. And some old ass Rockford Hex power 10"s and 18" and 2 12hex punch's. Then I got the old audiobahn subs remember those old flame subs lol. I got 4 12" natural sounds which ain't bad but they ain't the best but look good though n still in mint condition. Then I got 2 12" immortals which are bad ass those hit hard hard. And then I got 4 12" audiobahn compression serries which are 3k a pop n still run like new and are hella loud. Which I don't use em anymore. But got em. And 2 10" flame Q series that look identical to the compression subs just not as powerful. And then yesterday I picked up two aluminum x 12s which are a strange dual 6 ohm subs... They sound damn good n look good to. And then my prized subs iv had for a while which I'm actually selling are my old 15"s FI BTL ufo subs I got 2 of em in a ported box and two FI BL 15s which one has a bad coil still plays but coil is going bad. And then the 18s I got 4 of sundown X v2s which are also for sale.. and them I got 2 kicker L7 12s which I don't have a box for anymore which are supposed to be sold this Friday
@@KingAlfredGaming what no pyle or thumps? Those were the jam back in the day for budget bumping!
He even measured the inside sound level of the diy sub with the trunk open which definitely makes a difference in air- and so sound-pressure. Measuring it with closed trunk like the kicker one it’d probably kick even more..
My F150 would sound better and louder if I rolled both windows down halfway. Sucked during winter and rain though. In a hatchback, facing the speakers up makes a huge difference as well. I have not had any vehicles with trunks so I cannot say if the direction they face (or the port) makes a difference.
i see what u did there
@@JarofMayonaise I call that "rack" open drivers door and have friend be codriver, it feels more for your friend
Maybe. Sometimes it's louder with the trunk popped, it depends on the vehicle and build
@@RedBeardRebass maybe, but they could’ve just included a measurement with the trunk shut
Zack: I’m going to measure it from about a meter away
Also Zack: immediately places meter half a foot away
Technically he did measure it from a meter away 🤣
@@arcanask niccce
A bunch of technical errors in his script. He was reading audio terms he didn't know, some were pronounced wrong, others were explained wrong and the measurement should be at 1 watt and one meter for standard sensitivity testing. Any other measurement can be taken anywhere but should be in the same spot to be able to accurately compare similar products.
@@bonzainews i cant believe he would do that what a terrible mistake i cant watch this channel any more!!!! 🤮😭😖🤮😭🤮😣😡🤬😢🤮😭
@@tylerpassey4347 finally somebody understands! 👍
I love this! sub sound quality relies a lot on the box rather than the sub itself. Having a good sub and amp helps a lot but it can all be wasted on poor air flow.
I used to work at a small speaker shop on the west coast during the early 2000s and we hosted what we called a “box class”. The box class would give customers an idea why we were always trying to sell them a nice box rather than an expensive sub. During the box class we put a small 8” sub with proper porting and flow against a high end 18” woofer in a shit box and the improvements in the low and med range where insane!
This is so true, building a good box is alpha and omega for optimal subwoofer performance. I was struggling to find the right volume and porting for my Hertz Energy 12" subwoofer, kept experimenting with different porting and stuff. I just couldn't get it to play "right", it was outperformed by my two olde Hertz Energy 8" subwoofers! Welp, I decided to give it one last try with a sealed box instead and that gave me a huge surprise, it not only played much nicer, it was actually siginifcantly louder and more punchy. It went from meh performance to almost too much.
I did of course brace the box and made it really strong and completely air tight, it's surprisingly heavy for it's size.
"Hey, let's blur the front number plate"
"Yeah, cool"
"Oh, let's not do this for the rear plate"
Honestly you can’t really do anything with the license. It’s only for police officers
@@nalee1 it’s done so fans can’t recognize the cars when they’re parked at home
@@ssm6873 Nah they already gave out too many clues to stop that.
@@nalee1 there is data bases and h can track it to the registration of the vehicle and thus the guys address and full name and stuff like that
@@nalee1 unless your a hacker
To get the most out of your money when installing a system I have used five-channel amps. I currently have 4, 3 Rockford Fosgate amps, and one pioneer. These amps run from 200-250$ on amazon. In each of my cars with these amps, they power four 6.5 inch door panels, and a 10 or 12-inch sub. In my opinion this is the best bang for your buck and these are enough to shake the glass on your car.
dear Donut Media, i think it would be pretty interesting if you guys did an Up To Speed on Donut Media itself, telling how the channel came to be, the backstory and everything else! just an idea i had when i woke up this morning tho.
Agreed!!
absolutely
Yes
That’s something that I would love to watch!
That’s nice
So in short, just make your entire car's doors and trunk full of any subwoofers you can find for maximum sound density
didn't realize justin y watched donut :o
Oh wow it's the real Justin Y
He is a car guy
But the quality will not be good.
Wow ur here
“This is money pit and today we are FINALLY GOING TO TURBO........the sound system”
Totally looking forward to next weeks episode on seat covers
Hell nah. 🤣🤣🔥💀
At the climax of the build your sunglasses sitting on the box made me do a double take. It looked at first glance that you had two little ports pointing towards the back 😂
Same
Donut, we are indescribably disappointed that the Pop-up Headlights song wasn't used to test the bass!
Yeah
What a let down....
Missed opportunity
"You'd think we would do 1600 watts since that's what it says on the box, but instead, we're going to do about 1600 watts"
that's bad quoting, he said he was going to use the 1600W rating to calculate the system at its max power. Just so he can make sure he's safe.
I appreciate how normal his garage is, like random supplies along the walls and his golf clubs right next to the work table. Shows how approachable a lot of the work he’s done on the series really is.
12:45 Anyone wondering the real name of the song is Beat Dominator Bass can you here me, some old school stuff right there.
Yeah I'm wondering how he did the carpeting on the subwoofer.
@ItsYaBoi ErrSkinnYP3n15 I know, but like how are there no seams? Like the carpet is 1 dimensional, it's flat. How did he manage to wrap it around a rectangular subwoofer without the seams showing or folds or the carpet overlapping? Or is it overlapping on the bottom where we can’t see?
@@phantommedia9964 the seams are on the flat surface, both ends and bottom. If you look closely at a box in store you'll see. It takes some experience and craftsmanship to build a decent box yourself. I've been building my own since high school
*This is what i did for a living back in the 80's and early 90's the pointers were ok but there are things you didn't cover that the average person trying this for the first time would never understand. FIRST a sealed box does not sound "muted" it's a controlled pressure or SPL (sound pressure level) that it creates inside the box and how it (depending on how it is mounted and which way it faces inside the car that makes ALL the difference. Ported boxes are for people that want a bunch of speaker inside their car / truck and don't have the room to have the correct airspace for all of the speakers they want you can tune a ported box for deeper bass but it's still not a controlled bass sound. You ONLY get that in a sealed box as long as your box is the proper size a sealed box will hit harder and stronger than any ported or banpass box ever will. The best you can do is build a sealed box in a place that you don't see it so that no one gets the idea of relieving you of it. in your case with the 240 the best thing you could have done is build the sub into a box under the package tray tilted slightly toward the rear of your car. building it in the deck of your car you would get a stronger reflective bass sound that hits harder and cleaner than any ported box ever could. I have heard some clean banpass boxes that sound almost as clean and good as sealed boxes but none that perform as well without cooking your sub's voice coils*
Daaaamn that ad on the 2021 Veloster N was so good. The buff guys are your best recent addition to the Donut Media Crew BTW.
Edit : And Zac always killing it every video, thanks a lot
No ones talking about how they got vin diesel and John cents for that ad?
I only saw vin diesel the other side of james was just empty. hmmm
@@evanhilton279 I'm DEAD xD
Vinny Diesel and Joe Cena, from the name brand bodybuilder depot.
@@evanhilton279 when you order them off wish
@@mooncookie3688 vin gasoline and joe seeya
Zack needs a "sileighty" S13 and do some crazy mods with it.
i'd like that
@@Donut yeah Boi.
@@Donut and my first heart as well thank you.
he’s gonna be making skids on the usis pass
@@theofficialcosworthracingt8987 haha lol 🤣
When I was in my late teens, early twenties I used to install Car stereos, speakers, amps, and subs, but I never once used any special software. I learned myself and from my friends that went to dB competitions. I don't do it anymore (much bigger and less flexible now), but I do miss the community that I used to be apart of.
By the way, love your videos, they have been informative and very helpful.
"Im Zach, and this is 'Stall til we get turbo parts'..."
Still entertaining though.
This guy is gonna start tinting his windows next if the turbo doesn’t come soon
@@oliveperry2327 you actually called this . I can't believe it. Link:
ua-cam.com/video/6VLzKuk9TAE/v-deo.html
Man, I don't even have a car but this is my favorite stuff. Thanks for turning me into a car guy before I even finished high school!
Have a good Halloween everyone 🎃
LMAO in high school I used to install all my classmates’ subs and audio stuff for extra money, and I thought I was doing everything right. But after watching this I realized everything I did was all wrong 😂
and then everyone that knows what they are doing realises everything in this video is also wrong.
@@puresesh7985 care to explain?
Yes please do explain
@@bigboij3027 well for starts they didn't build the enclosure correctly at all just guessing there was no proper calculation of port area vs cbft or port length vs cbft to determine the tuning of the enclosure. The information on how to pick the wire and fuse was ok but hardly correct more of a yeah here you go try this rather than a this is how you do it. Anyone that actually knows about car audio gets a good laugh out of this video.
@@puresesh7985 ok well thanks!
Finally, it's great to see that the RMS power and impedance were highlighted as the real specs to pay attention too. Good job! One note on enclosures though, you forgot to mention the bandpass subwoofer enclosure. Finally you should have mentioned how dB rating works to highlight the dB gain for store bought vs custom box because 1.5dB doesn't sound very impressive until you know that for every 3dB increase it requires twice the power. So a gain of 1.5dB is very impressive actually just for a different subwoofer box.
"Bandpass boxes - If you are looking for bass sounds that boom well a bandpass box is the right fit for you. It wouldn’t be wrong to say that the bandpass box is a combination of a sealed and a ported design. Here, the subwoofer is carefully kept inside the enclosure that has two chambers, out of which one is of the ported design and the other belongs to the sealed design.
The sound that comes out eventually is from the ported chamber. The sound is super-loud here, which is why this enclosure is considered the best to highlight the low bass notes for hard rock, rap, and hip-hop." -Source: AudioUntapped
It's called sensitivity. "dB rating" is when your friend give you thumb up because its loud. :D
There are many types of bandpass enclosures. The sealed box Inside a ported box is just one type. Also know As a 4th order
There are advantages and disadvantages to every enclosure type.
Generally speaking most setups will have best mix of results by going ported.. Unless Ur super tight on space... Then sealed is essentially Ur only option.
Not true
If it's not dislodging your heart from your ribcage, you probably need a better sub setup
the 10" kicker isn't going to help anything 😬😬😬😬😬🥴
Need to put a couple Sundown NSv3 12s in the back on 5K watts 😤😤
@@rodneyjones1991 man of culture
Too bad donut doesn’t know what a real system is
He needs to run that at 1ohm always put more power 20% more lol
Dude this is the first money pit where I really had no idea how to do any of the stuff they do in the video and honestly man this series got like 10x better. Most of the time it was just me just being entertained but the education aspect is soooo nice
Fun Fact: One of the buff dudes' actually John Cena, you just couldn't see him
Yeah, I thought so😂
What are you talking about? I only saw one guy, mike from breaking bad on ‘roids.
😂😂 the bold one was actually Bill Goldberg..
I thought the bald guy was Dom 😂
Amplifier power can exceed the woofer's power handling* . It doesn't hurt to have a bit of headroom for dynamics. Also, if deciding to upgrade subs, a new amp isn't necessary.
*as long as you don't turn it up to the point of distortion.
With impedance rise, that amp will never hit the rms numbers. You should always get an amp that pushes a fair amount more than the power handling of the sub. That weak amp they chose will lead to clipping and a burnt coil.
@@murrayshekelberg9754 exactly.... That sub with that amp is never seeing more than 3-350 and more like 250 -300 most of the time.
What we learned from this Video
*BASS IS EVERYTHING*
Yesss I love these videos!! They are so entertaining! They really make me happy I can’t wait for next Wednesday!!
Zach has come to his own when it comes to hosting the show. I think MoneyPit is now currently the best show on Donut.
I dont agree but your entitled to your opinion
I used to not like him, but after seeing him struggle and pull through on difficult projects and explaining car modding in a way that’s entertaining, and engaging. I agree, he’s honestly a great teacher
That's why they add all that filler in the box, its supposedly simulates the box being a little bit bigger, so you can undersize it to save room and material and add that stuff to help, I would still just build the right size box over adding that stuff
I wonder what the right size box with the stuff inside does
Zac is gonna single handedly bring back friendship bracelets
12:53 NO REEEE put the sub rear facing, close the trunk, and put the db meter near the windshield!
Edit: and close the doors and windows!
Exactly! Def was wondering why the f he didn't do either
Your pfp and name makes me laugh
Fr lol
I could beat his score with proper box and 8" sub
by rear facing do you mean, the port facing the rear or the woofer side?
Loudness over quality
That’s like pushing your Nos too early
“Too soon junior”
Not loudness, pressure. Pressure =life
2 x 18" x 2 3000w amps 👍
Volume is pressure cuz sound is created by agitating molecules. The more the molecules move the greater the pressure and therefore the greater the volume.
@@tylerviirland2413 volume is not loudness
@@tylerviirland2413 Loudness, a subjective measure, is often confused with physical measures of sound strength such as sound pressure, sound pressure level (in decibels), sound intensity or sound power.
this was literally one of the best commercials donut has ever done
Me and my uncle built a custom sub box out of the cheapest plywood we could find (I was 16 and broke) and it turned out to sound better than most systems I've had since. Still blows my mind to this day.
Donut is the only UA-cam channel that can make ads that its viewers actually enjoy watching!!
Shit was funny.
Internet Historian as well, lmao
I feel the need to correct this,
Your sub doesnt have any output at a certain ohm load! Its the coil configuration of the sub, either a single or dual voice coil, that the impedance of that coil is dual 2 ohm. Remember, subs dont output wattage, they use it to produce sound. So a sub can be wired to anything from half ohm to 8ohms depending on coil configuration of the sub and the amps stable ohm loads
If you wire a dvc 2ohm sub to parrallel, you will get a final impedance of 1ohm at the amp give or take! Which is what uou want
True asf
Im sure the subwoofer is a dual voice coil. In this case it has 2 voice coils at 2 ohms each. Only way to wire this as a single subwoofer is at 1 ohm or 4 ohm.
12:55 had goosebumps hearing him say „a meter away“
Why?
@@the_motek148 weil Meter die einzige richtige Einheit auf der Erde ist und ich immer nen Fragezeichen im Gesicht hab wenn die Jungs von 7,3 feet and 3,75 Inches reden.
@@the_motek148 American using metric
@@juzzyvic ist mir bewusst. Hab mich nur gefragt weshalb es ihm Gänsehaut beschafft. Wäre er ein Amerikaner, der eben meter ablehnt, würde ich mich fragen was er dann meine.
I hate how much this vid tickled my old car radio install/helo avionics/woodworking/math nerd days. Take your thumbs up.
12:53 technically wherever you place the decibel meter is "a meter away"
Normal cars: *decent sized trunks*
240x: "You`'ll have better luck fitting groceries in your pocket."
me laughing in miata
@@solarflareb2379 Try a two door wrangler.
Laughs in VW gol trend
Nevermind I forgot abnout the C8 corvette front trunk space.
I love my crown vic for that reason. Enough room for a box with 2 tens and 3 full size spare tires as well.
*How were you guys able to afford Vin Diesel and John Cena in this video?!*
I only saw Vin Diesel??
Wheres john?
@@caocacao-y7l 1:08
wait it went right over my head nevermind lmaooooo
@@BlueFluGaming 🤯
My best setup was 2 alpine type s 12” with a kenwood 1000 watt amp in a Memphis box It took up whole trunk was not ported and my buddy was in the back seat one day and I had to turn it down because it was effecting his breathing. Loved that setup
Great Job on the video and series! There are a few things I would like to add.
1. Find out the low end frequency range of your sub/amp. You will waste time/money If your box is tuned to 20hz (port length and width), but your audio components can’t produce that sound properly.
2. Loud doesn’t always equal great sound. Never run your system at MAX. The sound will distort and sound bad. Turn up your head unit until clipping happens, back off a little bit. Then do the same at the amp with the head unit at the spot you found. That will be your max volume setup for great sound. There are tuning mics and programs (apps) that can help if you can’t get that sweet spot by ear.
3. Try to run your power/ground opposite your speaker wires. It minimizes possible interference. I think I have watched every one of these videos. Still waiting on the turbo lol.
Kicker box is using Polyfill to make the effective internal volume larger than it actually is.That's why when Zach calculated the internal volume, it was smaller than they recommend.
Definitely glossed over some important info, but over all i commend you on trying to cover such a complex topic as speaker enclosure design, and make it interesting for the casual viewer. haha
lmao your sponsor ad was the most epic yet ahahah hyundai must be very happy with it
you guys got the best editor haha cheers and keep up the grind guys!!!!!!!!! love your channel!
7:07 wow dude I love this channel and all the people that work here
Subs are the one thing that go against weight savings that I'm okay with lol. Gotta have them beats right for the canyon drives!
One more tip:
Run your power and audio cables separately. The power cables can interfere with the audio signals degrading your audio quality. My father is an electronics technician and taught me this at a young age.
I personally hook up my sub systems with quick connects so they can be easily and safely removed when I need trunk space. I have the power cables connected with (can’t remember the name) the same connectors you see on forklift batteries. Audio cables have crimped ferrules, remote wire has a Deutsch connector. Every connection is safe when unplugged, even the power connector has a rubber plug to keep it from getting shorted out. I have two sub boxes with the amp attached to one of the boxes. My capacitor is hard mounted and hidden behind an access panel in the trunk.
Aren't the audio cables shielded to prevent this from happening?
@@rabitec. most aren’t.
Also keep your ground wire as short as possible.. audio wires up driver side, power wires up passenger side. If your battery is not in the trunk use a capacitor.. I have done a few different systems in my days and am itching to do one in my next car :)
Oooo also, keep your fuse as close to the battery as possible!
@@jmalin1975 A capacitor is not a wire extension.
Zach: its a racecar
Also Zach: let's install this big ass sub
Gotta listen to euro beat
@@Big-man-aman Give this man a Award
@@bhartishingole854 🏅
gotta hide the bottle somehow
@@Big-man-aman 🏅
The fact y'all got Walmart vin diesel makes this epic
Internet Genius Here: Be sure to make sure the Breakers are rated for DC currents, as some breakers are specific for AC currents only.
Yeah you can tell by its design that it's not an AC breaker.
Dang! You guys got John Cena & Vin Diesel to bodyguard James! Cool! 1:07
John Cena and Vin Diesel bought from Wish....
off brand john cena cause we can see him
So we are reviving the early 2000's, right?
Because i would love that
I did the prefab route with my last sub replacement. My 2014 Focus ST had the stock 8" sub box in it, and I replaced it with a Kicker Comp RT 43TCWRT672 6.75" sub box, and I am driving it with an Audio control LC2i, and a Kicker DXA250.1 amp. It plays louder, deeper and harder than the OEM Resin box, plus it is actually smaller and lighter too. I went this way, because I still use the cargo/hatch area everyday.
I love it, built a custom ported one for 2 10's once before my car was stolen, then I had another ported box with a plexiglass cover to protect the speakers once, put lights in that to match the beat and it was badass.
Wish I had a setup like that. but hey I could do it one day
How'd the 2 10s hjt
This dude and james are my favorite. And i actually learened something new from this channel. Thats the first.
Thank you for the knowledge
Sad Nolan noises
You ever had a dream about being "Lucky Pierre" in a James and Zach sandwich?
"What up tonsil boii!!" Lol what?😂😂
haha my roommate just had his tonsils taken out and he wandered into the garage 😂
@@Donut well I had 1l of my blood removed by my stupidity so I got that
@@Donut I knew it was something along these lines 😂😂
I don't know what is with Hyundais but their gear boxes are just so wonderful to shift and just love to click into where they need to go. When my driving instructor pulled up in a i30 after previously learning in one I knew I was in for a nice time. Wish I could afford one though!
Press F for dead pixels on camera sensor :(
I was watching them the whole time
Where? I cant find it.
@@nickrr3626 all over the place
Oh good, I thought I was hallucinating
F
Hyundai went from being the quiet kid in the class to be one of the noisiest (?). From economical cars to beautiful pocket rockets.
Concordo
To the noisitest? You ruined it there haha
Still not great cars. I’ve driven the last couple of their hot hatches. They’re cheap feeling, disconnected and just crappy in general. They create an insane feature list, but don’t execute it very well. Their marketing dept. certainly works very hard.
Pocket rockets are bikes my guy
@@GoPaintman Have you driven the N?
"Feel the Bass" Been using this song to test the bass in every car I've owned since the 90's!
I still have the bass notes burned into my brain lol
"Hey, let's blur the front number plate"
"Yeah, cool"
"Oh, let's not do this for the rear plate"
Me too but I cant find it for some reason, just 150k remixes...
I bought an pre-made enclosure for my sub. It was like $80 and it sounds awesome. I did a lot of research first so I made sure to find the one that has the proper volume and tuning for my Sub. I'm not loaded so I just got the cheapest DVC Kicker that I could get which was a comp c, which is like 300w rms. I got a matching kicker d mono class sub and it's pretty awesome in my 2003 Honda Accord Coupe. Only cost a few hundred dollars for the box, sub and amp. and another i think $50 or so for the wiring kit.
Im Zack and this is Need For Speed Underground 2
Love this episode :D
In Sweden our car culture is a lot about the sound systems, we build crazy systems in our volvos and trucks like nissan king cabs. We build with bass speaker and every thing, I don't think many people know that
My first truck was an 88 king cab. I miss that thing.
Bruh satt o tänkte på exakt de en 8a kan inte basa så mycket
The Swed named Viktor
Same here in Finland. I build sound systems to cars before I even got the license. 😁
It was in the beginning of 2000’s with the computer programs to calculate/simulate boxes.
I was like 13y old when started to build boxes for making home subs. 😂
Still using winISD pro.
Always got the “wondering” from other people that how I was so loud and pretty clear too. 😁
(Because I build and design my boxes) 😁
That wasn’t really a fair test. You should’ve closed the trunk when you did the interior on the new box. It would’ve been even louder. Clean build 👍
So I'm not a "car guy" but I do find these videos amazing because of how their directed. Of course each of your characters are great as well.
On a different note I live offgrid and have one sketchy part of my solar set up that you just taught me how to fix. Thanks
The kicker box was smaller because it had pollyfil to help make up for more space. If you add pollyfil to the box it should improve. Also the port length is determined by the port diameter and desired tune frequency
I loved this video. My introduction to car culture was sound systems. I currently have a 12 civic with 2 15, 4 tweeters, and 8 midrange speakers spread around.
Trynna go deaf💀
@@RHUDEBWOY-1 exactly my thought lol
Two things: You could have had a longer port had you run it out of the side of the box (less chance pf filling it with spilled M&Ms), and 5th Order Isobaric speaker boxes have been around since the 90s. Sealed boxes with nothing but ports that feel like a fist punching you with air.
I've only recently discovered your video channel, and dig what you guys do. Keep up the work!
I wish they would've talked about ACTUAL rms and max ratings being inflated and how to calculate based on the number of fuses on the amp, and the importance of port direction.
I've had thousands in sound systems.this was a good starter video. But there's WAY more to a system design behind the scenes
But the average car enthusiast just wants some bump in their car. For what this channel does, it was fine. There are other youtube channels that focus on just car audio that go in way deeper.
Yep, the total amperage of the fuses in the amp multiplied by the output of the alternator (roughly 14.4 volts) is the max wattage an amp can provide.
@@isaiahwade1484 not always true.
@@Penguinboy1995 it's not true because I left out a word. Lol
I meant max "efficient" wattage, which is 100% true. So if you have two 50-Amp fuses that's 100x14.4=1,440
That's all the efficient wrms watts can do.
@@isaiahwade1484 and that isn't going to happen. And we know that based on ohm load (drivers are not a static ohm load, so they always fluctuate) and voltage isn't always steady. But it's a lot better than it used to be with the lithium banks people use now. I see guys running 30+ kW with as little as .1 volt of drop, full tilt. But still, it's a good ball park. And if your amp has built in fuses, it's practice to fuse for the wires capacity and not the amp. And in most cases fuses won't melt straight away. It takes time for the heat to build up, unless it's a dead short. There is a ton to this car audio stuff people aren't even aware of. Not saying you, but people in general.
Donut, I have a conspiracy for you. I think you’re watching me.
A week before you guys started uploading money pit videos.
I bought a 93 miata.
Then you guys start uploading and I’m like cool! I’ll follow along, then realized I’m broke and you guys aren’t lmao. But there have been a few things that have happened that we’ve done at the same time and it’s kind of creepy. I think you guys are watching me or something.
You uploaded the headunit video the day I started changing mine.
You uploaded the wheel video a day after I ordered mine.
The headlight video 3 days after I ordered mine.
My steering wheel got delivered same day as your upload.
And now this. A subwoofer video. After I just changed all the speakers in my car. watt.
You missed a chance to say Watt at the end there
@@olliebonugli8881 fixed it
Bro...
Deliberately
Observing
New viewers
Under
The radar
😳😳😳😳
Or maybe they just show the most typical upgrades in the most typical order that people get them
thomasmaagaard lame
Did anyone else catch the "what up tonsil boy?" 🤣😂🤣
Totally caught it and laughed my head off.
I’m wanting to do a 280z build based off of the vehicles in Tron Legacy, and man, these videos have helped me so much with knowing what I need, what I want, and what’s unrealistic
5:05 did I hear 👂 “impotence” or “impedance” LoL 😂
Lmao I noticed that too
Haha yeah you heard that because I did too. He's not near into car audio like he's trying to make out to be in the video. Just like the 150-Amp breaker was a HUGE overkill and actually dangerous for the amp. Now it'll cook before the breaker kills it. Lol
@@isaiahwade1484 you are absolutely right LoL I didn’t want to call attention to it and start a fight
@@Jenuin He also built the box completely wrong for a shallow trunk like that. The sub should not have been facing up because there's not enough airspace above the sub's excursion. It should've been built to face the back on about a 55-65 degree angle. People face them up in something like an SUV simply because of all the airspace above them.
@@isaiahwade1484 this is one thing I always forget. You are right. =] I have legitimately built boxes and than realized ohhh 😮 🤦
2:53 ”stepbro, i’m stuck”
Great minds think alike
Step bro what are you doing
@@cameronknowles6267 Im installingggg myyy kickerr setuppp.
Making sure the enclosure has appropriate air space and allowing the sub to break in will increase those db numbers! Great video as always 💥