Finally trying out GPS Rescue mode in Betaflight for LONG RANGE FPV
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2020
- I've been wanting to play around with the semi-autonomous features that betaflight has to offer, and then use the things that I learn to go on to different firmware like iNav to mess around more and more with those types of features. With this current state of life, I finally have the opportunity to mess around with those settings, and it's been a blast - even if it didn't go perfectly. Betaflight GPS rescue mode allows betaflight drones to have a *basic* return to home functionality, and I take it out to a field to test it out.
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#betaflight #returntohome #gpsrescuemode - Наука та технологія
Your not a failure. You have made some of the most entertaining videos, and I have learned lots from you.
the long pause before the walk 😂😂
Make sure you change the failsafe in BF from "drop" to "rescue" also helps to turn the sanity check off while testing so the distance limits are turned off.
Held your own With Neil and the gang! Great job...If there is anyone in the community that was spot on for that appearance it was you! I often fly out of video range and hit my gps return.. It's that reliable for me.. I do use Matek f-722's which have a great barometer.. And for best GPS I use the larger modules. They hook up better and faster, and are much more accurate when you toss the quad around..
Can't wait for next attempt. Thanks for taking us along. I have been mess with the same stuff
I've been really interested in this feature also.Looking forward to see you sorting it out.Thanks for posting.
Keep the videos coming! Just got done watching the DRL 2019 complete season this morning!
Always fun to see what Nurk is doing. Nice testing.
I really appreciate your content Nurk! Always interesting to watch.
I’ve just watched your other video, you’ve mastered it now. Topman well done.
PERFECT TIMING!! I just got my micro long range 4in build done and maidened without gps rescue. Now to get that gps going! Thanks Nurk
You’re a brave man for trying this. Always wanted to experiment with gps but never had the patience. Looking forward to part 2.
Nurk, I really admire how honest your videos are. You're not afraid to show us your failures which makes your videos very real. Anyone who builds and flies drones knows we make plenty of mistakes, that's the only way we learn & evolve. Love your work.
An absolute great video Nurk.
Watching the way you behave the humble type of character you display connects to the average Joe out here..The drive to keep on pushing even after a few failures shows the commitment you express in your videos..
I’m glad you did not edit these parts, because
It really reminds us that try and try again to keep learning through the process.. The long walks to find our drones and hoping not to see them destroyed or even finding them is a treat!! Always love watching the human aspect you give us.. The highs and the lows..
It all matters!!!
Great Job!!!
damn. that's frustrating. Thanks for showing your frustration as well. It's so important to see these failures and learn from them. I appreciate your time. You were very brave to do that several times to the quad so we can learn from it. Hats off to you!
I love these types of videos. I'd be really interested to see it working the way you wanted it to
Dude! Much appreciated for this video. You took the hits for us :) Was going to head out and do this for my 7 inch rig, now i am informed better!
I messed with gps rescue a lot, still not something I’m comfortable leaning on though. Some things I’ve noticed:
Even with an FC w/barometer the altitude control is quite bad
The return altitude default is to go 15m + max altitude of flight or your set altitude (whichever is greater)
There is what feels like a permanent change in the PID values until you restart the FC after you used rescue, don’t try Acro until after a land and unplug
@19:58 pretty sure if you failsafe twice without a reboot you get disarm on 2nd failsafe.
@24:23 100m + descent distance parameter is the min distance before gps rescue will engage. You can set the descent distance to the min value, which then causes the steepest descent, but most situations we retake control long before
@26:06 No idea here! Maybe that radio sends a disarm when it’s powered off gracefully?? I would really like to know why this didn’t work this attempt...
Please keep working on this! I know it’s frustrating, so much effort to figure it out when you have long walks and/or repairs after failed attempts 😆 It’s extremely valuable info though seriously! Thank you!!
I'm wondering were you simply not far enough away? When u were at over 1200 feet distance it seemed to work, but I'm crying thats a beautiful frame friend... n she can take a beating! Thanks nurk! N beta devs!
The pretty sure after second failsafe it will definitely disarm and you can’t rearm either. Ask me how I no🥴
Just curious.. I’ve never built or flown a drone, but I have programmed gps sensors on microprocessors. I can get fairly accurate altitude from gps if I have enough satellite locks. Also, why not use lidar or sonar to assist height measurements?
Pat John I don’t think there’s any issue getting accurate altitude measurements, 11+ satellites seems pretty capable, and the onboard barometer seems to to give even more stable readings. The problem seems to be betaflight guidance code ability to combine pitch and thrust values to achieve a vector while getting sensor data that’s probably very lumpy.
As far as combining more sensors, I don’t think lidar is helpful until you want accuracy down to centimeters, which we really don’t need. Barometer is cheap and does everything we need sensor wise, the gps rescue code just needs some more TLC from the betaflight devs
Jon Davis that seems like an easy problem to solve. Even on arduino you can handle gps updates a dozen times a second. They probably tone the refresh rates down on gps/barometer to conserve power during normal operation as their is no need for that much data. They could bump up sensor refresh during gps recovery and if there’s processor constraints maybe tone down things like controller inputs from antenna
I must say love these types of test videos, so interesting. I hope you manage to get it to do the fail safe RTH. Great video and great flying. Cheers and stay safe buddy. Total lockdown here in the UK! :)
Thanks for sharing even when it doesnt go they way you meant. I feel your pain, been through most of the things that happend too you. It sucks, but that only makes it feel even better when you get it working!
...just glad to see you grow as a person - the flying is coming along nicely as well :-)
Excited for part 2! This is good learning
just found your channel recently and i'm loving your videos! perfect to delve into during lockdown :)
Can it ever be frustrating to be a pioneer! paving a way for others is needed, but man can it be challenging. I was going to say how easy you had it with BF's new GUI easiness, but bless your gps, when you got in the field you had many of the same challenges the rest of us Pioneers have not been envious for some time. Keep at Bro!
Another useful video. I was just setting GPS rescue up today. Thanks!
This is the best of both worlds! I cant imagine "Fail safe-ing" as an FPV Quad but instead of falling out of the sky just safely returning to you automatically like a DJI! Awesome.
Honest test. Brave. Honest like a man. Thank you
You def help keep me so interested in this hobby! Not that I've been in it for years or anything just love watching your content! Always keeps things interesting!
Glad you're here to watch!
Aweosme content man! Love the raw uncut stuff. It’s not always rainbows and it’s good to see the professionals go through the same as us beginners lol
Nice was just thinking about this subject. Thanks and nice job well done. . PS love how you have the 4 angles up on screen
Wow! thanks for making this video! I just got my GPS unit and ready to install them this weekend on my FR7 long rang rig.
You're such a legend for doing all of this so I don't have to make as many mistakes
Keep on keeping on! I always seem learn something from you too. Thanks man.
Hey man, love the consistency: uploading very often, not wasting time. Keep it up (already subscribed)
Love these long videos, keep it up!
Thanks for your videos, and this test... good to watch, braver than I am. Good thing for the soft landing.
Thanks for taking one for the team!
This is a story I like, thank you for your effort.
You rock bro!! Even when if fails we are learning a lot
Man I was really rooting for you on that last attempt. Sometimes I miss my Naza equipped long range setup. It’ll be awesome if you get this working, the awesome flight performance of Betaflight with the safety of return to home / gps rescue. Thanks for putting in the work I’m staying tuned.
FinalMile FPV me too I’m staying toned also!
Great video, great timing, I just started working on GPS rescue on my 7 " build. Looking forward to seeing your successful test video. Happy flying, stay safe.
You stay safe too buddy
I have tested rescue mode by turning of my transmitter and i can tell it works, used frsky not crsf. Try to reflash betaflight? I suspect it could be a csf issue.
Thanks for posting this as is. Learning and experimenting as well and this helps.
Hey Nurk, thanks for this vid. Helped me set mine up!
Paul, all your videos are fantastic. Your production skill makes the video so easy and natural to watch. And of course great flying skills! I believe I know what the issue was with the failsafe. I went back in the video and your failsafe is set to stage 1. I believe this needs to be set to stage 2 so it can use the selected GPS function. I suspected this because when you used the RTH switch, everything worked perfectly. Great video!
This is a very helpful video for a guy who wants to fly safe and not lose my quad.
Just maidened my first 7" GPS rig. Very addictive! I set it up just as Bardwell recommended in his GPS vid. Works like a charm.
Nerd I mean Nurk lol I was listening to Star Talk and herd your interview with Neil and the gang. Awesome bro. Good job can wait to hear you again on another podcast soon. Shout out Brando in the dronaverse
Great video mate. I had this problem with a 7in I built up. Was running the full digital DJI system (radio as well) pushed it to the limit and lost contact. The quad never came back. Checked the last footage that was recorded on the googles and headed that direction. Luckily for me I found it as the Hellgate buzzer was working away and got it from down a steep bank in amounts bushes. That buzzer saved my $1000 drone. What I did do was play back the footage from the air unit and found when it lost radio contact it did failsafe 1 and then failsafe 2 did kick in as the motors started up again but not enough grunt to get it up. Hence back into betaflight and fount that the setting for the throttle in fail sage was set too auto which just resets to 0 throttle. I have set it to hold now but have not had the balls to rest it out. It's a bugger you have had the same issue as I was hoping all would be well. But looking at @Joshua Bardwell comments it looks like it's just not that reliable. Great video and thanks. 🤙🤙
I was considering getting one of those new micro-LRs that're all the rage right now.
Given GPS rescue is one of the headline features, seeing how to get it working well is a valuable thing.
Thanks for the video! (I've got your "I got it to work" video enqueued.)
love the camera work while flying
Super good content. Fun to watch and informative
When Nurk said "That was not what I expected" it pretty much sums up my experience with BetaFlight GPS rescue..
Good information! I just wish I knew more about it, but I am learning by watching these videos.
Fascinating. I understand what my HS720 is doing now. Thanks!
Enjoying the content brother. Also love the fact that you show your mistakes like wrong way props, no prop tool, crashing in the mud, stuff like that. I definitely can relate. “Enjoyable failure” lol
Not a failure. You’ve done some great research for us noobs! Thanx for your time, help and quad sacrifice.
Great timing. Got two fresh builds and GPS modul es
Can’t wait to see if you can get it to come back with the transmitter off great video!
Now that nurk my friend that’s what I call a test fantastic dude love it 😊
Great vid man , i just subscribed . Will be my lock down project to try get my quad working in rescue mode .
Great stuff NURK!
Really enjoy your vids!
Thank you very much Nurk! Very helpful.
jus getting back into FPV... great vid
Good video. Thanks for posting this. It answers a lot of questions for me and my quad is still in one piece! :-)
Good video shows the leaning process
Good job Paul.
It is fascinating! I remember testing it and having the same impression. I was up pretty high once and my Nirvana shut off completely. Should have checked the batteries beforehand. The quad stayed in the air and pretty much kept its position. I grabbed a new set of 18650 and replaced them, turned the TX on and was able to gain control. Scary as hell.
Ishy P which protocol was your quad on CRSF, SBUS, etc?
@@digilogic1812 crsf
Dude. Thank U! I just now discovered U and wish I'd stumbled upon U sooner, I just got into FPV less than a year ago and I've been trying to figure this shit out but people (at least around here) DON'T think like I do. However, U do. Whether that's good or bad, I'll let U know how that works out for me...
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I’ve been thinking of doing something similar. Looking forward to following your progress with GPS on drones.
Very cool and kinda simple too. Cant wait for my longrange build
this is something i wanted to learn for so long ... thanks nurk, you all american stay safe !! a hug from italy
Hey, I'm also Italian
Reagan Films thanks we love you 🇮🇹 🇺🇸🇺🇸 🇮🇹 Italy. Although, I 🤔 think we’ll take a hard pass on that hug at least for a few months.
Yeah thx for the hug but I'd rather be alone tbh
Dude that roof awning is like a damn trampoline bro 😎 lol....Nice flying bro dope as f
Awesome vid, as always
Very informative as always Thank you!
Great video! You would have been a failure only if you never tried your gps fail safe experiment. It’s so cool that you tried this. Keep at it
I thank you for doing a gps recovering video was looking for one.
Well that was entertaining. It was fun to learn about it. Thank you
That information is much appreciated, thank you.
Love your videos wish I had the talent that u have on knowing all this stuff
Before this video even starts i legit ordered this same fc and esc well before seeing this. My stoke level is way high now!!
Very cool vid. Really digging it
Nurk, thanks so much for this video.
Possibly while experiencing loss of control link your RC receiver failsafe settings could to be overriding the flight controllers commands
Cool video, love the content, keep it coming!
You're a cool guy man thanks for uploading this vid, am willing to try this too.
26:20 I know that feeling all to well...
Nice video dude!
Thanks for making this great content!
Super interesting topic @NURK FPV and fun to see how you accidentally dipped the drone in some mud before presenting it for the 1st time inthe Video... ain't that just typical :-)
GreAT vid. First time with inav on a fixed wing
Thanks for this awsome info and video Brother
Well, I'm not the only one who has had that happen to. I've tested GPS Rescue four times now, on two different quads. Twice on each quad it worked perfectly as it should and twice it has failed, identical scenarios, my quads nose diving, flipping upside down and free fall to earth. I've followed all instructions to the T and so far I've not been given a reasonable explanation as to why rescue failed, even Mr Know it All was unable to explain. My lesson learnt, have it setup, don't play with it, use it genuinely for fail-safe rescue only and fingers cross it works when needed
My conclusion exactly. It's just not consistent enough to count on.
@@JoshuaBardwell cheers, I’m glad you respond with your thoughts Joshua. Since we communicated about this I now have GPS rescue setup on my two long range cinema quads for emergency only, all my freestylers have loud buzzers. On my large 5-6 meter scale FPV cross-country gliders I use INAV.
Worked well... especially for your long range recovery desires.
Great video, full of good content
Love your work 😀👍
Most realistic video ever
This is how normally things go down !
Haha, wow, the drone left a mark in the field, literally. Amazing how tough they are nowadays. I always think it is in 100 pieces when I crash mine, and often it is just a prop, broken wire or the battery dislodged. I am amazed it survived 300+ ft, even though it is soft ground, THAT IS ONE HECK OF A DROP!
Great video. Looking forward to seeing how this will be addressed.
Hopefully we'll get it figured out!
I really liked this video. I've never tried GPS rescue. The space isn't available for me, but the telmetery of GPS is really nice. I read all the docs on the wiki, i don't use a compass and the distance data isn't there for me at armed to work. Your transmitter is hot seems like it accepted that last one cammand before shutting off. Keep the vids coming.