Pushing 8 blade props to 65,000 RPM
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2021
- We set out on this adventure just to have some fun with a really unique drone running 8 blade propellors, but we ended up having way too much fun trying out the different kinds and learning about what sorts of sounds each make and the volume at which they make them! Check out all of the links to the parts used and if you choose to purchase, you support the channel:
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In World War II it was the sound of the German Stuka that struck fear into the hearts of soldiers. In World War III, it will be the sound of 5-inch bi-blades at 65,000 RPM.
i have 6-inch bi-blades, but only can fly them far away from civilisation. it eaven scares the crap out of me. hehehe
Not far off now eh
You didn’t know how correct you were when you wrote this.
@@Flumphinatoryeah 😢
This aged like fine wine
imma hold out for 16 blade.
I’m waiting for the 69
420
Do dual motor mounts with 8 blade.. there u go, 16 per arm
Low turbulence
Half blades.
Question: What's the best 5" prop?
Answer: 3" 8-blade.
Rofl
There are now HQ props, 8 bladed 3.5inch, and 6 bladed 4 inch that should work better in a 5ª quad than the extreme 3" props.
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I was dumb forgot my password. I love any assistance you can offer me.
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Would be cool to see a 5” 8 bladed prop fly in this set up.
Nurk: shows us that 8 bladed props exists
Me: Buys 5 sets before even seeing the comparison
Same 4 sets haha
now they are backordered!!! damn.. Im late to the party
@@timm1065 try RDQ?
found them on Pyrodrone; luckily. now I'm just trying to decide on a frame and set of motors to get that free shipping... lol
HQprops recently released 8 blade 3.5inch and 6 blade 4 inch that should be a better match for a 5" quad, I think (and also look gorgeous)
7:35 LTT Was here
Rofl
More like LDT 🤣
I'm loving how happy and excited NURK is at the beginning. Seriously, how many awesome drones has he flown and this still happens for him.
I often have anxiety about the noise of my drones this might be worth trying for me.
Can I ask why??
Are you scared of your own flying ? Or just not like the sound?
@@sulawesi-steve No not I'm not scared of flying when I am in the middle of nowhere I am fine. I have major social anxiety and just scared of upsetting someone and getting in a confrontation
or even just being noticed.
@@RobertCondonSunnyTurtle ah ok, that's fair enough, thanks for being honest.
Are you in the position to get a cheap spare set of goggles? I kept my first box set I got with my wizard, I take them with me if I'm flying somewhere that I know people walk there dogs. I keep an eye out obviously, plus I've got a spotter 100% of the time 🧐......
I find this helps to show how fun it is to 'fly like a stunt bird' and that I'm just enjoying my free time, not spying on people or practicing dropping of drugs ha.
@@sulawesi-steve Yep got a spare set of Goggles and a little hand held display. I almost always have good experience with people just been curious. It's mostly just in my head. Someday I am good and really enjoyed flying others I just can't get out of my head and can't barely fly. Thanks for the advice though. I've been flying for fpv over 8 years now and have only had a few bad interactions but many many great ones. I had some bad times where I just stopped flying but have always come back because this hobby is so good for me.
Dude! Everything you do makes me want to try whatever the thing is you're experimenting with. Your videos are inspiring, even when you're trying crazy ideas.
Love these videos! Your video on the 160mph with Josh was my favorite, but now time to get some props.
THanks again-
I really like that sound. Not being able to hear as much of the speed change from acro flying makes them a whole lot more stealthy
Funny video but interesting and educational at the same time. Thanks for Another great vid Nurk!
👍👍 This is the sound that was etched into my brain several years back of how a 5 inch drone should sound snap flipped and rolled. 8:52
This is how rotor riot episodes used to be before they started shilling equipment.
Corrected and I loved watching it then... Haven't watched a RR it well over a year.... I believe since the drones vs car windows ep I believe is the last one....
Very interesting and unexpected for me just how much softer the sound was with the octo-blades.
This has to be one of the coolest videos I have seen in a long time. i have been trying different things with my babyhawk2 hd its always fun
Don't know why, but the quick transition at 1:21 with the full blown back hair cracked me up. Great video Nurk
8 sounded really nice! I think the higher pitch also made it not as shrill sounding.
The biggest thing I noticed was with the 8 blade, there was almost no echo compared to the other louder blades. So it's definitely a lot quieter overall.
I like the way you can come up with stuff and have a good reason... wild life filming!
That's always the goal!
Those 8 blade props sound SO GOOD!
omg that thing is so cool with 8 blade props!
I love the feel of torque on a 2 blade quad, but as for flying, I enjoy 3 blade with an aggressive pitch the most. They always feel locked in, faster and are soooo quiet!
Absolutely awesome!!!! Can't wait to get back into FPV when i get back from Japan.
Snap roll sounds extactly like when my cat sneezes 4:06
Omg... I'd love these!
At 12:00mins. The way you laughed bro is nothing short of happiness. I can't wait to get into this
Awesome awesome video!!!
8 blade props ordered!!! Very cool video!! Thank you
Have fun!
Excellent review...!!!!
According to a propeller tip speed calculator, at 65,000 rpm the tips of a 5 inch prop would be supersonic, traveling at 966.8mph. That explains why those powerful race drones are so loud, but I still don’t quite think those props can handle the drag that occurs when the tips go supersonic…although when I compared the prop design of a race quad to the prop designs of planes that have supersonic propellers, the quad’s props look like they’re gonna handle it WAY better. Just wonder if it’s possible to make a race drone with supersonic propellers to make it super loud and fast
11:26
Dude I love my octoprops on my cinewhoop super grippy efficient surprisingly and quiet!
I expected it to have lame punch out on the 8 blades but what the hell🤣🤘
So sick!
Thanks much. very useful information.
Fantastic experiment. Thanks.
Amazing discovery, keep trying more blades.
8 blades sounds sick , what a beast.
This was fantastic!!! 👍👍👍
that 8 blade setup sounds really good! and i's noticeably quieter !!!!
Of all that stuff in the video the thing that got me most excited was the proper use of the word "maths"
Great video. Buying some of those 8 blades. A 'stealth' 5-inch; awesome 🙂🙂
I might get a set of these to try on my long range build to see how much it effects efficiency.
poor efficiency
Affects*
This is amazing!
The "FPV-Nerd-After-Punchout-Giggle" at @10:39 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Ong fr lmfao that would be me bc I love doing punchouts. It already sounds and feels epic on a tiny whoop. Can’t imagine how epic it would be on a 3-5 inch quad
That was fun!
We played around with 8 blade props years ago. Back in the CC3D days and the bite is insane. Super locked in, 2 and 3 blade props felt sloppy back them compared to them.
The are faster at mid, throttle for sure but really caused mega sag if you went above about 70% throttle.
This was on BH 2205 2522kv motors and 4s 1300. They felt amazing but they pulled so much amps that it literally was unflyable even on a totally fresh pack... After a, min of flight if you got on the throttle at all for any length of time it would cook a esc or sag so badly you would have to back off...
The 6 blade 5 inch props was halarious...
What's fun is to take 3in props on a high KV 4s 5 inch build and run 6s. The motors have so much torque with that little prop that it literally man handles them and response is so quick and clean and at hover it's making some noise lol... Wot on a unloaded 3 inch prop on 6s on a 2900kv really screams.
I'd love to see those 8-blade props tested with ducts. I'd expect more power (better efficiency due to tip vortices being prevented) and maybe even quieter.
I feel sorry for the batteries! Very cool to see and hear the 8-blace props.
Qualitatively speaking, for the same diameter,
number of blades: 2 8
RPM needed for certain thrust: high low
noise: loud quiet
top speed (high-speed efficiency): high low
low-speed (hovering) efficiency: low high
I’ve been obsessed with quiet quads for ages now I’ve found the bigger the prop with lower kv is best great video though
Who would even try those thing? And still get some nice performance results. Keep tinkering, you're onto something.
Great props, 👍
Thanks for all the AWESOME videos!!! Really appreciate it alot!!! Gives me good ideas for my videos also!!!
I may have to get some 8 blades for my favorite 3incher.. Interesting stuff Paul...👍🏻🍻👊🏻
I think that the big displacement motors help in a way though so be careful with the smaller motors
Nice! I will have to try them on my 5" if I can find any!
I dig it man. cool experiment. 🤔😎
Another fun video to watch...interesting comparison's as well. Seems like you might have another potential 'Side-Hustle' here. Selling those sound bytes (FPV Zooming By) as stock audio clips. Has potential. 😲😲😲 On a side note, your probably the only guy I would trust flying FPV in tight circles around me... *man, that things was moving!*
That honestly makes sense, more blades make more thrust at a lower RPM, more blades cutting the air is less turbulent, so less noise...??! Maybe I’m crazy I dunno, but it’s crazy how quiet that is
Your analog camera gives me strong nostalgic vibes of 90s
Im definitely gonna have to get some of those
HQProps also make 5x4x6 that could get you a nice balance. Would be interesting to see how different the flight time would be with 8-blade props on a light 5" race build.
I want 5 inch version of those 8 blades
Same thought.
I'll reach out.
it sounds like a power drill lmao. love it.
Would be interesting to see the same with a track setup, would the same "grip" hold out?
I love it! Very quiet for a beginner would be excellent! Sound too loud is sometimes scary for many people and neighbors! You guys should produce the quite and new 64 blades by Nurk FPV.
I personally don’t like quiet race drones. To me, they should be like mini fighter jets which is loud, fast, and highly maneuverable. In fact I wanna find out if it’s possible to have a drone with props that go supersonic which would give u extra thrust, and a LOT more noise lol. If it is I would love to get an fpv quad and install more powerful motors on it with a very specific propeller design that can handle the drag when creating shockwaves on the tips due to going supersonic
Love it bro❤❤❤
Wow I love how quiet that is 😊
Dang just missed it. I do love my hq 6 blades on my cinewhoop.
I use the same on my cinego.. they're great..
Just got some for my protek25, hope it works
That was so cool
doing it
Fantastic flying, Paul! 😃
Thanks for all the tests and sounds!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I just did the mathematics. It's obvious when you think about it. If you halve the blade diameter and quadruple the number of blades (of the same angle), then you get the same lift at the same RPM, so it's a straight swap on your current rig, without changing motors, ESCs or batteries. It would be interesting to see what impact such a change has on noise level, air speed and agility.
8:45 I think you can hear the PID fighting top and bottom right there. The motors almost sound like their chirping.
that was fun!
Totally changing my props to 8 blades!
I did a mix of old dalprop 6 inch biblade in front and modern triblades 5 inch in the back on 2208 2450kv and this thing sounded like a monster. Very loud low pitch sound that was amazing. It was flying like crap but the sound was crazy
Im late to the party, but I’m assuming the 8 blades just add to the disc surface, obviously, and just acts like more of a “wind brake” so to speak, making the snaps more precise and snappier. This is really cool!
In what seem like the old days, I used to run 5S on 2600 kv F40 Pro V2 motors. This was in the days before Betaflight had a motor output limit. Tuning was difficult and never perfect, and the best I could really do was put a throttle cap on the radio to keep from pushing the props too hard.
When I'd flip the switch to bring disable the throttle cap on the Taranis, the Racekraft 5051 props would scream like a banshee. The sound was just ridiculous. On any 5" prop.
This was fascinating! So is there a reason NOT to just use 8 blades all the time? I’ve been looking for quieter props for a long time, so I’m considering trying these 🤔 What’s the reason for 3 inch on a 5 inch though?
Almost reminds me of EDFs with the sound.... time for an EDF quad
Subscribed !!! thanks for sharing🇺🇸🏁😎
So, a little math here. The circumference of a a 5 inch prop is 15.710 inches. That means a 5 inch prop tip at a potential RPM of 65,000 would be traveling at 1,021,150 inches per minute, or 16.1 miles per minute, or 966 miles per hour. That means that weird sound hat you are hearing is the prop blade is likely breaking the sound barrier, and becoming much less efficient. The eight blade props would be doing 677 mph at 65000, which under load will not reach that rpm, and is staying under that sound barrier.
1,416.8 fps if people are looking for that measurement
966 is superso at Mach 1.2. So yeah, I bet the prop is supersonic
Would love to have some of those for my DJI mini two. Same diameter as stock. Would be awesome to see how they perform on the mini two especially at high altitudes.
This was a great video. I love the test. I am flying a taycan which Flys great with 3 blade gemfans, but if I switch to 5 blade the motors run much hotter (and I have burned out several motors) but I like the way it sounds and performs though the tune is off. I am not that knowledgeable at tuning but I am trying. Any suggestions on tuning for the 5 blades, cooling down the motors and performance? Thanks, your 12s build is what got me into fpv from the boring drones. Thanks for that. Good luck.
Ace.. could you do a thrust/amp test vs the 5inch props. Really interesting NURK! 👌
Please do a video with 4x modern EDF units (like those fancy CNC'ed aluminum ones) :)
i am using same propellers on a simple DIY cinewhoop with 3s battery. major difference is the sound it generates. it is quiter and thrust is more than 3 blades. good thing isthe load on ESC is not much different. 26 amps in total vs 24. but very fragile when used out of a duct, and acetone warps them FYI.
i had a 2750kv 5152 gemfan biblade setup. it was the loudest and most hilarious thing i ever flew (4s). drained lipos in about 1:20 at the limit lol
It would be interesting to see the 8 bladed props on 8 motors. Did you consider trying them on the big baby?
When changing prop blade #’s do you have to tune the drone differently to keep the motors from heating up? Or is that usually not an issue?
Great props évaluation .
how do you manage the color of lipo voltage which is diplayed on your OSD, in function of voltage level?
Interesting findings, ordered the props, can't afford the rest 🤣 Will gift them to little brother since his eachine is a hella noisy little ting, drives the neighborhoods' barking alarms, AKA dogs, mad! and they in turn drive me mad!
there is lot of aerodynamic physics behind this experiment, which could explain why is proper diameter, number of blades and rpm does it's job... The main idea is that only diameter increase flow(volume of fluid per minute) which increases thrust, and explains why bigger drones fly more efficient. Number of blades increases pressure, but decreases flow, that really helps to increase "grip" of the drone. The most efficient setup in theory of hydro and aero dynamics is to have only 1 blade, but you'll have unbalanced motor that makes it inefficient in terms of tribology of bearings, that's why the most efficient drones use 2 blades. As for high rpms(which highly increase pressure, and flow a little bit) which you have to use in that case because you don't have enough flow because of small diameter of props shows bad effect because you have something like cavitation in water at pump input because of low pressure when sucking, in the air you have vacuum at the edges of props which also could be said that you are running props with a speed higher than speed of sound. So when you are running 8 blades you have less flow and less air goes at speed of sound, that's why they are much quite than 2 bladed which have much higher flow
Two blade prop crazy sound 😁
So 8 blades in the ducts on the Cinelifter? How much quieter would it make that beast?
after watching this video i can safely say "I Studied the Blade"
8 blades were awesome
I lowkey wanna try those 8 bladers on my 5" build 😂
I wonder if a 3.5 in 7 or 8 blade prop would be a replacement for a 5 inch blade?
Seems like this is what your ducted thick needs. Will need some beefy motors for 7 inch octoblades though.
I just bought my first drone. Zero Features. Just a basic all piloting all the time drone. Loving it.
Just the fact that I can get so much practice piloting. My buddy smirks when I am flying, because I just fly out a ways, circle back, establish hover and land accurately.. I was doing it with a store bought drone in the wind. I did my first attempt at a flip with it a few minutes later and lost control though. This is what happens when you let your friends bait you into showing off. Drone is fine.
Flown a Phantom before. It was almost too easy to fly. I started out years ago in helicopters. So it seems to transfer well.
Extra blades means you are pushing more air at the same RPM as with the other props but the 8 blades are smaller in diameter to lower turbulence between the blades. A 5 inch version of the 8-blade with more powerful motors would be awesome to see.