The Geometry of Music

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  • Опубліковано 22 тра 2017
  • What does a rectangle sound like? A square, a circle, a pentagon? This short video introduces the geometry of music.
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  • @Karma-dj7wr
    @Karma-dj7wr 3 роки тому +130

    This just changed my life. I'm an ADHD-based musician, who struggles with connecting music theory into my way of understanding. Perfect explanation of perspective and connecting math to creative work.

    • @backspacex5785
      @backspacex5785 2 роки тому +2

      every thing ,shape ,size , solid ,liquid pattern ,gaseous patterns , blackhole and rest that we don't know yet ,all can be explained or simply show with an math equation

    • @tomasoliverasala
      @tomasoliverasala 2 роки тому

      same fella

    • @prestonjoeyoung
      @prestonjoeyoung 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly. I can think of the times I've thrown "music theory for dummies" after getting a headache. This explained so much in a few minutes. Wow.

    • @hewhoisathirst530
      @hewhoisathirst530 2 роки тому +3

      A good ear can replace theory anyday. Once tuned the notes on ur instrament are stationairy and tangeble.
      Theyre at ur disposal. Rhythm and structure are the intangibles. I too am a musician of 25+ years multiple instraments and adhd. Theory doesnt work for me. And prob wont for you. Much better to focus on the intangibles and trust your ears. All scales are groups of notes that are most consinet decreasing or increasing. But without dissonance its hard to convey alot of emotion or feeling. Trust your ear Brother

    • @Defensor_Libertatis
      @Defensor_Libertatis 2 роки тому +1

      I agree, I had the concentration of a gnat in class. Getting a grasp of the circle of fifths then applying it to an instrument or writing is 1 of the most fundamental yet giant steps any musician of any genre can take

  • @bschuber
    @bschuber 3 роки тому +12

    This is the BEST visual representation of this I've ever seen, mind blown

  • @subzeroelectronics3022
    @subzeroelectronics3022 3 роки тому +31

    If you make an equilateral triangle or square and then rotate it, something amazing happens. You discover that there are only four unique augmented chords and three unique diminished 7 chords because their intervals are equally spaced.

    • @wailingalen
      @wailingalen 4 місяці тому +2

      Yes, they are just inversions of each other. And lots of complex chords can be viewed and created as stacks of types of trị chords on top of bass notes or even other note combinations,
      I.E. a Cmaj7aug5th is basically a E major chord over a C bass note
      C E G# B.
      These views of complex chords and scales has helped me to grasp complex harmony over the years

  • @adeolaola4516
    @adeolaola4516 4 роки тому +22

    You know your favourite artist is good when they bring you here.

  • @therelentlesswan
    @therelentlesswan 2 роки тому +4

    This makes a lot of sense, thank you for articulating and depicting their relationship in such a concise manner

  • @sunnyboy4553
    @sunnyboy4553 5 років тому +7

    LOVE your site. I'm just learning to play a keyboard (repertoire limited to Freres Jacques, Mussels, and Cockles, etc..) I find it so fascinating that music has so many mathematical, almost mystical components.

  • @trentp151
    @trentp151 Рік тому +6

    Holy COW. About 3 years ago, I had a waking vision of Pythagoras pointing out this exact concept, with the addition of musical frequencies aligning with the 7 colors of ROYGBIV. Furthermore, the shapes illustrated in your video align perfectly with what are called "Grand Aspects" in astrology. Needless to say, all of this stuff is related, and it blew my mind when I had that revelation.
    Awesome video!

  • @wilfredoblas9533
    @wilfredoblas9533 3 роки тому +2

    I was searching mathematical music theory out of curiosity and this is the basic yet the best explanation so far

  • @chrisvon4781
    @chrisvon4781 5 років тому +9

    Absolutely Amazing. Please Keep Doing These Great Videos Thank You

  • @glenneric1
    @glenneric1 6 років тому +59

    THIS! I've been waiting for a good sound mathematical video about music. As far as I'm concerned word like 'major', 'minor', 'sharp', 'flat' only confuse the issue. To me, there are only steps and patterns around the wheel. This video does an excellent job of showing how frequencies are related to make pleasing structures. I might suggest showing how the 0-4-7 combination (major) and the 0-5-8 combo(minor) are really just mirrors about the vertical axis. Also, maybe show how the 'church' scales are related by simply rotating the major wheel.

    • @galvaden
      @galvaden 3 роки тому +3

      Actually, a major triad is 0-4-7 and minor is 0-3-7. Only one note changes.

    • @Cyred_Akaao
      @Cyred_Akaao Рік тому +1

      You'd probably love Pitch Class Set Theory, then. The whole idea behind that is to organize musical ideas numerically, based on this Dodecagon graph.

    • @glenneric1
      @glenneric1 Рік тому

      @@galvaden 0-5-8 is also a minor since it effectively also a 5-8-12, which when down shifted is a 0-3-7. it just has a different name (I forget which), which is one of my points of confusion. There are 3 variations of a minor scale that are within a single octave range.... 0-3-7, 0-5-8 and 0-4-9

    • @galvaden
      @galvaden Рік тому +1

      @@glenneric1 You're right that 0-5-8 makes a minor chord, namely an F minor chord (if 0 = C). It would be a 2nd inversion minor chord because its 5th (C) is on the bottom, so it's spelled C(0) - F(5) - Ab(8). 1st inversion is when its 3rd (Ab) is on bottom.

  • @chrislucy3778
    @chrislucy3778 Рік тому +6

    Great one! Didn’t think of the tones on a wheel with geometric shapes - makes better sense than my piano training (memory practice) Thanks :)

  • @GlennMichaelThompson
    @GlennMichaelThompson 3 роки тому +1

    I've only just come across this introductory video.... subscribed and will begin following this channel. Looking forward...🙏

  • @Turboy65
    @Turboy65 Рік тому +4

    This visual system makes a lot more sense than our current method of notating chords. It should become a standard chord notation method. Recognize the shape, recognize the kind of chord to play. Observe its angle in the wheel, know what key it is. Easy. This is the method I would choose to teach our 12 tone musical system to an alien race. It's very logical and representational.

  • @tstm3570
    @tstm3570 3 роки тому +49

    Thanks a lot for saving my life, i was getting tagged as insane by my musician friends saying that I am thinking absurd, i wish to collaborate with you guys, i am looking forward to develop a unique data structure that can develop into a machine learning model and analyse a given piece of music into a mathematical expression, which can be further analysed with the human cognition system and deduce the impact of the music on the brain and it's cognitive reactions. Great research by you guys. Thanks 🙏

    • @energy_waves
      @energy_waves 3 роки тому +10

      The sounds like something similar to what I want to become a reality, Let me know if it happens!

    • @Hblahblahblahykwii
      @Hblahblahblahykwii Рік тому +1

      @@energy_waves same here

    • @energy_waves
      @energy_waves Рік тому +3

      @@Hblahblahblahykwii Keep up the good work and keep improving your mental and physical abilities so you can be your best self. Your dream can systematically come true as you step toward it. :)

    • @Hblahblahblahykwii
      @Hblahblahblahykwii Рік тому +2

      @@energy_waves thank you so much 💙

    • @beammeupscottiii
      @beammeupscottiii Рік тому

      ​@Patrik Kondor will you be sharing / documenting your research anywhere? This is really interesting!

  • @soulintent4129
    @soulintent4129 3 роки тому

    Wow, such a beautiful way to represent music

  • @TheDingsBoms
    @TheDingsBoms 5 років тому

    Wow that was incredibly and beauitfully made!! I was moved, Thank You so much.

  • @leewithey2014
    @leewithey2014 6 місяців тому

    Fantastic information!!! 🎼

  • @anthonyfoden9382
    @anthonyfoden9382 2 роки тому +1

    A very nice, elegant video. Music is number made audible.

  • @zerozucker
    @zerozucker 5 місяців тому

    beautiful visualization

  • @Jude74
    @Jude74 5 років тому

    Fascinating!

  • @yemamayicien1922
    @yemamayicien1922 4 роки тому +2

    1:54 This dramatic chord took me by surprise !

  • @kungfumusiclessons7579
    @kungfumusiclessons7579 Рік тому

    Great video. Well done!

  • @gloryaday480
    @gloryaday480 6 місяців тому +1

    I was studying Ptolemy in college (great books program) and I remember our professor showing us how musical intervals somehow match up with the planets and their orbits as well. If someone knows what I am talking about I would love to know where I can read and learn more about that.

  • @thighknives
    @thighknives 2 роки тому

    I love this so much!!

  • @johnfurseth9791
    @johnfurseth9791 2 місяці тому

    Stupendous!

  • @regularjohnstudios
    @regularjohnstudios 6 місяців тому

    I've never visualized these shapes before with chords, seventh chords etc. Things will never be the same now

  • @liltick102
    @liltick102 Рік тому +1

    Good stuff

  • @throxing8865
    @throxing8865 Місяць тому

    The first couple shapes are easier to understand but as they go up i think its difficult

  • @janglebinski
    @janglebinski 3 роки тому +1

    Thats the best what i have even seen before! Which software/ Program you use? I want to play with it too!

  • @cav3sp1d3rgam1ng
    @cav3sp1d3rgam1ng 4 роки тому +9

    Elearning told me to watch math and music, I clicked the shortest vid this vid

  • @gosugosu1280
    @gosugosu1280 Рік тому +1

    How did you create these visuals? Thanks for the video!

  • @Shervin963
    @Shervin963 Рік тому

    wonderful! thank you

  • @JC3D
    @JC3D 5 років тому +1

    Thanks - this is very helpful

  • @themar.i.per3374
    @themar.i.per3374 9 місяців тому

    I align the dodecagon with the circle of fiths because F sounds like C and because of that it should be close to it.

  • @michaelsmusic3532
    @michaelsmusic3532 3 роки тому

    SIMPLY BRILLIANT !!!

  • @billyfubar2748
    @billyfubar2748 2 місяці тому

    I've been playing guitar for a long time, 22 years, and I feel stuck in the room, musically speaking.
    Using keyboards to record music has been helping me but I get so caught up in learning those programs I forget to study what the hell I actually just recorded.
    I'm left handed, but I play right handed thank God, but my brain does not understand like other's do.
    I'm gonna need to watch this video over and over.
    I know where most the notes are but I am far from understanding the Liles of triads
    And what makes a chord beyond just full blown bar chords.
    Learning to play these, I get bored easily and go back to my knuckle dragging style of play.
    A mix between dirty Slur atmospheric blues and heavy metal, with side quests into other genres to shake the tree a little bit. (Just finished a Latin trap song) , which uses sounds notes and progressions I'm unfamiliar with
    I have all these new sound packs and there is Arabic trap music, Punjab (india) those cultures use obviously different scales than a typical good Ole murican guitarist like myself.
    And I'm very disappointed in my lack of knowledge on music in a global and historical scale.
    I just seen a video about the hurrian hymn number 6 (the oldest sing ever written that could be still transcribed.
    Like 3400 years old from the an area in (todays) Syria.
    But the translation is muddle a bit,
    I think it's a minor scale
    But it was meant for a lyre instrument with out instruction on tuning
    But i digress
    thank you for this video.

  • @Astrovic1
    @Astrovic1 2 роки тому

    really great video! is the illustration with the twelve notes somewhere on a website?

  • @chillmurray7529
    @chillmurray7529 Рік тому +1

    Incredibly helpful!
    Please post the tabs for this?

  • @AnnemieM
    @AnnemieM 5 років тому

    Wow that was an awesome video thank you so so much.

  • @downhill240
    @downhill240 5 років тому

    Very interesting!

  • @laurenpinschannels
    @laurenpinschannels 3 роки тому +4

    this doesn't really represent why the interference patterns work the way they do, though.

  • @lebu2006
    @lebu2006 6 років тому

    Awesome!!!!!!

  • @alute5532
    @alute5532 Рік тому

    Cool sounds how to implement Fourier analyais with the circle?
    Does this study process or field has a proper formal name?

  • @sayarieastsounds
    @sayarieastsounds 6 років тому

    nice...could you do a video on music and the golden ratio??? Thanks

  • @a1schaible168
    @a1schaible168 2 роки тому

    I love this

  • @downhill240
    @downhill240 4 роки тому

    MInd blowing man!

  • @TaxPayingContributor
    @TaxPayingContributor Рік тому

    Digital billboard on repeat at train station.

  • @luigicapola9373
    @luigicapola9373 5 років тому

    hi there : what´s the name of the app. you are using ? looks cool ,it will save a lot of time.tku

  • @ShaneDereck
    @ShaneDereck 3 роки тому

    This is sooooo cool 😎👌

  • @ser7ser7i
    @ser7ser7i 6 років тому

    Thank you

  • @lmmnil4574
    @lmmnil4574 2 роки тому +2

    Do you have an app for messing about in this duodecagon? I use this concept already but i draw it and that takes time. Also id like to change the colors. The lack of magenta bothers me (learn to CMYK plz) and i color code the notes differently

    • @lmmnil4574
      @lmmnil4574 2 роки тому

      C #0080ff
      Db #0000ff
      D #8000ff
      Eb #ff00ff
      E #ff0080
      F #ff0000
      Etc. You figure out the rest.

  • @juglansregia1433
    @juglansregia1433 5 років тому +10

    holy crap...so i was in another dimension..in that dream....that golden geometrical structure that gave off this wonderful music...it was real...(O.o)

  • @vishruthpitliya4586
    @vishruthpitliya4586 3 роки тому +4

    Our Own bois assemble

  • @diesel4338
    @diesel4338 4 роки тому

    Damn this is geniuuuuussssss !

  • @GEMSofGOD_com
    @GEMSofGOD_com 2 роки тому +1

    Instant subscription in less than two minutes. And I didn't even want to know what's a pentetonic

    • @massimookissed1023
      @massimookissed1023 Місяць тому

      Since you don't want to know what a pentatonic scale is, I'll tell you.
      Take a tube and blow over the top of it, like blowing over a bottle.
      You'll get a note dependent on the length of that tube. ~ Its fundamental frequency.
      By blowing harder and harder, you can get other notes, 4 distinct different notes before eventually getting one that's twice the fundamental frequency. One octave up.
      The fundamental and those 4 other distinct notes, are the pentatonic major scale.
      So 5 of the 12 notes in a Western chromatic octave scale can be achieved with a fixed-length tube and physics.
      (There was a 'toy' in the 70's that was a flexible corrugated tube about 1m / 1yd long, and by twirling it around at different speeds you could get those 5 notes, and smack anyone within range.)

    • @GEMSofGOD_com
      @GEMSofGOD_com Місяць тому +1

      @@massimookissed1023 plot twist: didnt want cause knew it. But yours a good explanation

  • @ROBBIEP
    @ROBBIEP Рік тому

    is there a website where you can select the decogram and hear sound. i want to try something with it. but unsure if one exists. searching for one i'm not having much luck. any help thanks🤞

  • @user-cd8yi4dk6p
    @user-cd8yi4dk6p 2 роки тому +1

    Hou can a circle "represent" a perfect octave? When you only used 12 points on it? I mean in that scene everything can be represented perfectly by a circle

  • @louisaruth
    @louisaruth 2 роки тому +1

    the C should be red and chromatic from there- it would make more sense that way

  • @mastercat
    @mastercat 5 років тому +1

    Another vid like this about this???

  • @Shubham-ju6ee
    @Shubham-ju6ee 2 роки тому

    thank you

  • @bobleclair5665
    @bobleclair5665 Рік тому

    The commercial for this video had music with Kermit the frog singing, I was getting the urge to dance,

  • @zycek
    @zycek 3 роки тому

    ayo whats the menu loop my friend really likes its but i dont know what it is

  • @rayhanmansoor2951
    @rayhanmansoor2951 3 роки тому

    So vacation is almost over huh ....

  • @pamanes7
    @pamanes7 Рік тому

    WHOA!

  • @zerubbabelsbridge
    @zerubbabelsbridge 5 років тому +14

    Is there an app to compose music with this?

  • @Guitarmalade
    @Guitarmalade 4 роки тому +1

    Augmented 7 amongst the most commonly used chords in music?! LOL great vid tho!

  • @angeliquecoke1647
    @angeliquecoke1647 6 років тому

    Wonderful Video! well done

  • @spec_wasted
    @spec_wasted 3 роки тому +1

    I am beating my head against the wall

  • @yesserlabidi7831
    @yesserlabidi7831 2 роки тому +1

    HOLY molyyyyyyyyyyy thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu !

  • @xasancle
    @xasancle 5 років тому +3

    Where you extract the colors of notes? Arbitrary?

  • @DJFrenchie-GalLovette
    @DJFrenchie-GalLovette 3 місяці тому

    cool

  • @GelatinSkelet0n
    @GelatinSkelet0n 4 роки тому

    So basically Harmonagon infinity opens the door?

  • @javiersoto5223
    @javiersoto5223 4 роки тому +2

    This is not the true geometry of music. The notes of the chromatic scale are at the vertices of specific polygons. Those polygons are the triangle, square, pentagon, octagon, and the pentadecagon.

  • @dizzybeats9808
    @dizzybeats9808 5 років тому

    🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

  • @adrianahodor5329
    @adrianahodor5329 2 роки тому

    🙏💗

  • @kenneth6211
    @kenneth6211 3 роки тому

    This is how Wagner wrote ride of the valkyries

  • @eldiabloramon
    @eldiabloramon 11 місяців тому

    😮 holy crap this is the music math i was looking for! This explains EVERYTHING! 😮

  • @leesweets4110
    @leesweets4110 7 місяців тому

    In what way is this visualization enlightening of music theory?

  • @thumpyloudfoot864
    @thumpyloudfoot864 4 роки тому

    *Takes a deep breath...
    WHOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAA!?

  • @nickpatella1525
    @nickpatella1525 5 років тому +2

    Wait, aren’t there only six axes you could reflect on?

    • @massimookissed1023
      @massimookissed1023 Місяць тому

      The are 6 axes from any point to its opposite point,
      *PLUS* 6 more from any gap to its opposite gap.

  • @mrshah2043
    @mrshah2043 6 років тому +299

    You better stop doing this. People might start making good music again.

    • @kvnjng
      @kvnjng 5 років тому +28

      lol. I was gonna make a joke about comparing a Bach piece with mumble rap. Then it occurred to me that you can't compare music with noise.

    • @juglansregia1433
      @juglansregia1433 5 років тому

      lol
      @@kvnjng

    • @Jude74
      @Jude74 5 років тому

      And I laughed 🤣

    • @michaelsurname609
      @michaelsurname609 4 роки тому +17

      I think theres incredible music being made today, its just not blasted everywhere like the pop crap.

    • @michaelsmusic3532
      @michaelsmusic3532 3 роки тому

      no shit ! This is BRILLIANT :)

  • @MELONenSURPRISE
    @MELONenSURPRISE 5 років тому

    haha great , a bit too fast though . Very Interesting

  • @zaahafizah4808
    @zaahafizah4808 3 роки тому

    👍

  • @DawphinOfficial
    @DawphinOfficial 2 роки тому

    woooaaaaaa

  • @Squirrel-zq6oe
    @Squirrel-zq6oe Рік тому

    A lot of this reminds me of music from Zelda Ocarina of Time

  • @kyfisher3662
    @kyfisher3662 4 роки тому

    Still wait for that upcoming video on the symmetry in music

    • @theharmonagonproject8138
      @theharmonagonproject8138  4 роки тому

      Sorry, we had to suspend this project a couple years ago.

    • @kyfisher3662
      @kyfisher3662 4 роки тому +2

      @@theharmonagonproject8138 that's a shame I really like the concept

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    @VideoEconomist Рік тому

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  • @xMadhavandlifex
    @xMadhavandlifex 2 роки тому

    00:43
    01:56
    important points

  • @nicobustos7311
    @nicobustos7311 3 роки тому

    this be very real, people never try to understand pithagorics !!!

  • @vanillakeksik
    @vanillakeksik Рік тому

    sheesh

  • @theemperorofmankind2
    @theemperorofmankind2 2 роки тому +1

    God is a triangle

  • @agustingutierrez2852
    @agustingutierrez2852 6 років тому

    a traducir de a poco !!!!

  • @Machell
    @Machell 7 місяців тому

    Psalms Songs Love you guys 🧐🤔😘 always 💙💜❤️

  • @darylmichael7
    @darylmichael7 3 роки тому

    Yeah... you have a nice day, too. 🙄

  • @nextgencs7
    @nextgencs7 6 років тому +1

    Tune it to 421.6hz n see

  • @adamlaceky8127
    @adamlaceky8127 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe you shouldn't talk over the notes and chords you're explaining.

  • @Fire_Axus
    @Fire_Axus 2 місяці тому

    ...

  • @frfrchopin
    @frfrchopin 3 роки тому +1

    Sorry to criticize, but this is more like a forced relation in music.

  • @monsieurmitosis
    @monsieurmitosis Рік тому +1

    I don’t really get it

    • @Stella-iy4zf
      @Stella-iy4zf Місяць тому

      Go to Jain 108 Academy.
      He's an enthusiast .

  • @timrjhghg1558
    @timrjhghg1558 6 років тому +1

    intervals are not chords.

    • @mitchkahle314
      @mitchkahle314 5 років тому +1

      Intervals function the same as chords and are thus included. Also, in geometry, any two points on a circle form a 'chord.'

    • @andreasihlen6244
      @andreasihlen6244 3 роки тому

      You're thinking of triads. Two or more notes together can be a chord.