"She's a counselor, not an engineer." As someone who works in IT, Barkley's question was 100% valid, and not being able to describe a problem other than, "Something's wrong" isn't a valid way of describing a problem.
Very much this. Even a simple "He's flickering" would tell him more than "something is wrong". Even someone who knows next to nothing about the technology can describe what they saw, giving the engineer at least an idea what is going on. You'd think a medical professional would be familiar with situations like that, and rather have a patient describe their symptoms than to simply go "something's wrong with me, please fix".
It's easily possible that she was A: making it clear that she didn't know how to describe it immediately B: making sure she had his attention, before getting into more detail, but she didn't have a chance
oh it was just them trying to get some homage into Dr. McCoy, would be a bit worried if in a 'normal' scenario the response wouldn't have been "the EMH is flickering"
I love the irony that if they swapped Barclay and the EMH, having Barclay collapse, and the EMH be called, no one would question "Something's wrong." at all. Both scenarios call for an expert and immediate attention or the life may be lost, while seldom benefiting from "idk it just happened." Not to mention - it's what the EMH said, Troi just repeated it, if the EMH can't self diagnose it as a power fluctuation or emitter failure, it's probably something deeper that Troi has no hope of diagnosing. Or if you want the IT version - Akin to your computer outputting "Sorry, Something went wrong..." (which is a bs error prompt but we deal with it anyway)
I love how everyone talks shit about Troi in TNG being a 'bad councilor' and 'needing Guinan to do her job' But in *Voyager* she's not only *good* at her job - but she does it with characters where her powers would be absolutely useless xD
He also did something similar in his audition, contributing to his getting the part. www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/4q9l6j/when_robert_picardo_auditioned_for_the_role_of/
@@matthew8153 I think that has more to do with the PAL version. It speeds 24 frames per second (in which "Star Trek" was shot) up to 25 frames per second. Same with movies.
@@TheTuubster No I'm from Australia & we didn't have a sped up version like this. Voyager was shot on film, edited & published on NTSC format. Easy conversion to PAL without changing the pitch. Unfortunately as was the case of all video from the U.S the videos look softer than the PAL equivalents. Now telecine from film (24fps) to PAL (25fps or 50i) was an issue with either the pitch increased or audio distortion of pitch correction was awful. The release of movies on HD bluray formats resolved these issues.
On Voyager? Because their ship was stuck in the Delta Quadrant, while Deanna was all the way home in the Alpha Quadrant. Pretty hard to give her a consistent guest role on the show when the ship it takes place on is 70.000 lightyears away from her position. They would have to find a way to bring her over to their ship on a more permanent basis.
@@Xylarxcodenot to mention there had to come up with some reason to bring her along to the show. Aside from the possible mental issues with the aspect of being trapped 70K light years away from home in their native alpha quadrant, it’s hard to come up with another reason for her to be there as she serves no real purpose.
TheVergile - Hmmm, then it must be a minor temporal distortion that is slightly speeding things up, which might account for their higher than normal pitch voices. Or somebody is trying to avoid having this clip flagged and sped it up just a tad. Pick one.
Why increase this to 1.2 speed? Could you only handle 60 seconds of that eye-candy Marina Sirtis talking? You're lucky... it could have been Dana Delany.
@bamapagedesign @kvn8907 Lol its better than Startrek Generations when they couldnt even decided on one standard uniform for one single ship. lol (Or if I really want to be a douche troll and bring up TOS and the multiple ship..multiple uniform discourse) :p
An orbital station would never be that close to Jupiter. The radiation alone is fatal relative to just somewhat further away. The station should be on Callisto. It is a hard object far enough away form the radiation. Ganymede is also better.
well. they fly through space with significant fractions of luminal velocity, have a matter-antimatter reactor on board and hang around singularities, stars and all kinds of weird high energy phenomena. Im pretty sure they got radiation shielding down in the 24th century
TheVergile Why not just have the station on Callisto or Ganymede? Surely all that surface area is not being used (there could be '50 million people on each (more in fact)' as per the number provided for Luna in 'First Contact'), as 'Jupiter Station' appears to be the primary (perhaps only) community around Jupiter.
well - it is fiction, so we can only assume. (the most probable reason is - it just looked awesome on screen to have a station round jupiter) Maybe they need the microgravity environment for some of their research or it makes some of the construction/running systems easier? Another reason could be that it is faster and easier for small spacecraft to dock in orbit than having to land? They could have additional settlements on the moons surfaces too.
Well with future technology, the rules are a little different. Considder for example the electrical energy shielding between the powerplant and your computer to write that post, 50-100 years ago, it was developing technology, imagine what they could do in a few hundred years with proper inspiration from now. As for what TheVergile said, yes it's easier to land shuttles and dock larger spacecraft. There is also other considerations. Jupitor is the perfect location in which to scan the whole solar system, and possably thanks to it's gravity and lack of being a giant ball of fire, it might be incredibly handy for amplifying subspace messages. It also quadruples as an ideal port between the inner and outer solar system for early manned exploration of the outer half of the solar system. So Jupiter Station is pratically perfectly located.
"She's a counselor, not an engineer."
As someone who works in IT, Barkley's question was 100% valid, and not being able to describe a problem other than, "Something's wrong" isn't a valid way of describing a problem.
Very much this. Even a simple "He's flickering" would tell him more than "something is wrong". Even someone who knows next to nothing about the technology can describe what they saw, giving the engineer at least an idea what is going on.
You'd think a medical professional would be familiar with situations like that, and rather have a patient describe their symptoms than to simply go "something's wrong with me, please fix".
It's easily possible that she was
A: making it clear that she didn't know how to describe it immediately
B: making sure she had his attention, before getting into more detail, but she didn't have a chance
oh it was just them trying to get some homage into Dr. McCoy, would be a bit worried if in a 'normal' scenario the response wouldn't have been "the EMH is flickering"
gotta have that line in there tho 😆
I love the irony that if they swapped Barclay and the EMH, having Barclay collapse, and the EMH be called, no one would question "Something's wrong." at all. Both scenarios call for an expert and immediate attention or the life may be lost, while seldom benefiting from "idk it just happened."
Not to mention - it's what the EMH said, Troi just repeated it, if the EMH can't self diagnose it as a power fluctuation or emitter failure, it's probably something deeper that Troi has no hope of diagnosing. Or if you want the IT version - Akin to your computer outputting "Sorry, Something went wrong..." (which is a bs error prompt but we deal with it anyway)
I love how everyone talks shit about Troi in TNG being a 'bad councilor' and 'needing Guinan to do her job'
But in *Voyager* she's not only *good* at her job - but she does it with characters where her powers would be absolutely useless xD
"It's a remarkable facsimile"
"Yes, it meant we saved money on building a new set."
"She's a counselor, not an engineer." I suppose that's a homage to Dr. McCoy's, "I'm a doctor, not a ___"
The Doctor does that a lot throughout the Voyager series.
Well, McCoy *was* one of the doctors who contributed to his medical database...
He also did something similar in his audition, contributing to his getting the part.
www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/4q9l6j/when_robert_picardo_auditioned_for_the_role_of/
@@Axemantitan Nice.
im a doctor not a bricklayer !
I wish Troi would've made more Voyager appearances
Me too
She demanded a lot of money just for a few episodes
I would like to see Deanna meet Captain Janeway.
She'd get crushed if she recommended Janeway to remove coffee from her diet.
@@Battleguild Yep, 2 things never to cross Captain Janeway with are 1) Threaten the lives of her crew. 2) Get between her and her coffee fix.
I would love that so much,
I find it hilarious when the doctor says Neelix doesn't purr.
Can you imagine if Zimmerman and the EMH got Marina instead of Troi? That woman is a force of nature!
She's pretty fantastic - energetic, funny, and forthright
Wonder if Ms Sirtis made her way through the Voyager crew and cast as she did during the first season of TNG?
Has the video been sped up? The tempo seems a little off and their voices are a higher pitch than normal.
AxemanTitan
Yes, it gets the video around UA-cam’s copyright algorithm.
@@matthew8153 I think that has more to do with the PAL version. It speeds 24 frames per second (in which "Star Trek" was shot) up to 25 frames per second. Same with movies.
Yeah. The doctor almost sounded like a chipmunk.
@Matthew WHAT? (high pitch)
@@TheTuubster No I'm from Australia & we didn't have a sped up version like this. Voyager was shot on film, edited & published on NTSC format. Easy conversion to PAL without changing the pitch. Unfortunately as was the case of all video from the U.S the videos look softer than the PAL equivalents. Now telecine from film (24fps) to PAL (25fps or 50i) was an issue with either the pitch increased or audio distortion of pitch correction was awful. The release of movies on HD bluray formats resolved these issues.
Troi should know what Voyager's sickbay looks like as the Enterprise E's is exactly the same lol
They used the same set from what I hear.
You stopped it. I was getting well into that.
me too lol i wanted to hear what barclay said
@@starfox1 he stated that his program was degrading
She knew the doctor was going glitch
Why didn't Deanna appear more than 3 times
They had to pay her actress?
On Voyager? Because their ship was stuck in the Delta Quadrant, while Deanna was all the way home in the Alpha Quadrant. Pretty hard to give her a consistent guest role on the show when the ship it takes place on is 70.000 lightyears away from her position. They would have to find a way to bring her over to their ship on a more permanent basis.
@@Xylarxcodenot to mention there had to come up with some reason to bring her along to the show.
Aside from the possible mental issues with the aspect of being trapped 70K light years away from home in their native alpha quadrant, it’s hard to come up with another reason for her to be there as she serves no real purpose.
Wait. Was this Voyager??? I recall vaguely something of this story but I forget the details.
The Doctor was beamed via subspace to help treat his creator, Dr. Lewis Zimmerman (who refused to accept treatment from a Mk. 1 EMH).
Lieutenant Broccoli?
Careful or you'll have Data trying to correct you lol
For I am a watcher, and a lover, and a guide when necessary and desired
Those computers are huge in comparison to the laptops these days. Mine is a fraction of the width of those. Gee wiz.
But can yours pilot a starship or contain the information needed to maintain a holodeck program?
Soon.
Captain Janeway would put Deanna right in her place
And in trust, I abdicate my production of art
How did Troi get onto Voyager?
She didn't. This is Earth.
Is there helium in that room?
roughly 0.000524 % by volume
TheVergile - Hmmm, then it must be a minor temporal distortion that is slightly speeding things up, which might account for their higher than normal pitch voices. Or somebody is trying to avoid having this clip flagged and sped it up just a tad. Pick one.
always temporal distortion. Wouldnt be an Star Trek episode without one or two
I think that the video has been sped up. The tempo seems a little off and their voices are a higher pitch than normal.
@bamapagedesign I think uniforms is the least of there problems in the delta quadrant.
Changing uniforms would be ridiculously easy considering they have replicators
If the doctor went back to starfleet why didn't Voyager change the uniforms
What happened to her voice
Neelix would be honoured lol.
The funny thing is, he _would_ be. He was never particularly full of himself.
I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer!
Neelix doesn’t purr? With looks like that you would think his species does purr 😂
Troyager.
Why increase this to 1.2 speed? Could you only handle 60 seconds of that eye-candy Marina Sirtis talking? You're lucky... it could have been Dana Delany.
It was an attempt to keep UA-cam from copyright claiming it.
@@GeoffreyGentryMusic That would be smart. I've lost too many favorite videos that way.
@bamapagedesign @kvn8907 Lol its better than Startrek Generations when they couldnt even decided on one standard uniform for one single ship. lol
(Or if I really want to be a douche troll and bring up TOS and the multiple ship..multiple uniform discourse) :p
Is Jupiter the planet that we see?
Yes. :) And the station is simply called "Jupiter Station".
memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Jupiter_Station
Her accent? What the??????
She left go of the accent as TNG went on.
I frankly didn't even notice.
Shes english
@Bobby Brady WOW. You bring racism into this, do yourself a favor and F off
@@Near_Void I don't think you know what racism is.
An orbital station would never be that close to Jupiter. The radiation alone is fatal relative to just somewhat further away.
The station should be on Callisto. It is a hard object far enough away form the radiation. Ganymede is also better.
well. they fly through space with significant fractions of luminal velocity, have a matter-antimatter reactor on board and hang around singularities, stars and all kinds of weird high energy phenomena. Im pretty sure they got radiation shielding down in the 24th century
TheVergile Why not just have the station on Callisto or Ganymede? Surely all that surface area is not being used (there could be '50 million people on each (more in fact)' as per the number provided for Luna in 'First Contact'), as 'Jupiter Station' appears to be the primary (perhaps only) community around Jupiter.
well - it is fiction, so we can only assume. (the most probable reason is - it just looked awesome on screen to have a station round jupiter)
Maybe they need the microgravity environment for some of their research or it makes some of the construction/running systems easier? Another reason could be that it is faster and easier for small spacecraft to dock in orbit than having to land? They could have additional settlements on the moons surfaces too.
Well with future technology, the rules are a little different. Considder for example the electrical energy shielding between the powerplant and your computer to write that post, 50-100 years ago, it was developing technology, imagine what they could do in a few hundred years with proper inspiration from now. As for what TheVergile said, yes it's easier to land shuttles and dock larger spacecraft.
There is also other considerations. Jupitor is the perfect location in which to scan the whole solar system, and possably thanks to it's gravity and lack of being a giant ball of fire, it might be incredibly handy for amplifying subspace messages. It also quadruples as an ideal port between the inner and outer solar system for early manned exploration of the outer half of the solar system. So Jupiter Station is pratically perfectly located.
Shielding?
"troy to luitenant barkley" erm... honey, you're accent slipped BAD there.
The altered audio is trash.
Ah, I see Marina Sirtis polluted Voyager too. Somehow I forgot about it. I wonder what made her think she was worthy.
She didn't. It's a job just like any other
Couldn't stand Deanna Troi in this episode. Acted like a prissy, entitled flake during this episode!
@PersonaX "Go away"? You're new to the internet aren't you? (Dumbass....)
@@hmrhuang How dare you have a different opinion? Zimmerman was the worst, Picardo is amazing.
@PersonaX grow up, let someone have an opinion... Sheep...
I agree she might not have been quite in character in the 3 episodes she appeared in on voyager, but it was still fun to see her.
Bruh thats her in real life, she just breaks character alot.