I’ve read that originally, they asked the participants to volunteer to be either prisoners or guards but had to randomize the role assignments when no one volunteered to be the prison guards, they all opted to be prisoners when given a choice. I think this is a very interesting and important detail from the experiment that is sometimes overlooked. It suggests that people do not naturally wish to be dominant or controlling of others (at least the participants of this important experiment).
Yes, and that's only a fraction of what actually took place during this "study". It is now known that the experiment was deliberately designed to skew participant interactions. it's bad science and this channel fell for it.....without bothering to reseach further.
those were people of the 50s, a bygone era, peoples psychology have changed a lot since then, try the same experiment with Gen Z individuals and see what happens.🤔🤔🤔🤔
I think it's more like people don't want to do the thing that's gonna require them to do more work. As a prisoner you just listen to guards or act like you normally do but a guard has responsibilities and will have to put more work into their role
@@WobblesandBean WRONG!!!! Kind normal people don't desire the responsibility that comes with power, remove responsibility from power and there'll be no kind soul who doesn’t desire power.
@@TheRealBoogieTarantino people dont have the patience for that much effort and even if they have the patience and they become full on good people, it will tire them mentally.
@@palkay875 well you can only speak for yourself or what you seen in other people physically and I’ll agree it is work to stay a good person but it takes a level of discipline to be a good person. Aye let’s just say this, there was only one man that walked this earth that was a good person in and out (if you believe in it or not, the fact is he was the only one portrayed as a full on good person) but like i say it takes discipline in whatever you do to break a habit so why can’t it be a level of discipline needed to break the chain of evilness/ wickedness that is within everyone???
@@TheRealBoogieTarantino Naw we can definitely be all insanely good people, but you also need to be agreesive and a monster at the same time, and that takes disipline ay! Also we can't really " break " the evilness in everyone IMO.
American Psychologist has published a thorough debunking of the Stanford Prison Experiment. It is no longer being taught as a true experiment rather than used as an example of a very bad experiment. This channel should make a new video of the truth about this "experiment" that was actually just the kids acting like they were under duress and the guards being pushed to do things they wouldn't normally do.
He’s good. I dont think he’s underrated tho. He’s just growing. If a year goes by and he only gets like 10k subs. Than yeah he’s underrated. But 150k since 2019. Aint bad
It would have been so much better to include a full and deep section detailing criticism (especially recent criticism) of this 'study' and how flawed it really was and how much Zimbardo lied for so long about not influencing the behavior of his participants, when, really, he never wanted to STUDY IF the prison system was flawed - he wanted to CLAIM THAT it was deeply flawed. Also, he clearly told 'guards' that they needed to be more ruthless, or they wouldn't be able to tell the whole world prison is the worst thing on earth - despite lying for so long that he never influenced anyone.
Yeah, not just that, but the fact that only a 4 of 12 guards were actually being ruthless. The others either stayed out of it, or actually helped the prisoners a little. When you combine that with the role Zimbardo played in the experiment, as the mock warden, and the very small and biased sample size, of just 24 American students, it breaks every rule in the book, about what makes a good scientific experiment. The only reason it's so famous, is because it produced results that seemed terrifying. Those results have never been replicated, nor were they even valid in the first place. Zimbardo gets far too much credit for an experiment which didn't produce any valid or reliable results, and has honestly, in my opinion, has done more to damage our understanding of the human mind, than to help grow it.
Yeah it was bad science. He literally was asked "what is your independent variable" and he didn't/couldn't answer. Small sample size of a specific type of student (white college educated men) and he openly says he was trying to influence the student's behavior. They absolutely WERE talking about normal things until he literally told them to stop. This is a case study of confirmation bias, not how environment effects people's behavior.
Alas, in our everyday walking society, be it a broadcaster from certain media claiming that punishment for wrongdoing must be swift and absolute, a head of corrections for a state system, or the President of the United States themself, people ARE influenced to behave in terrible ways to fellow humans. The one guard even referenced "Cool Hand Luke," a film which I love for its display of camaraderie, as his inspiration to be wretched. Despite the immense flaws of Stanford, I don't need an experiment to conclude that captivity is a horrible experience.
Yes, and that's only a fraction of what actually took place during this "study". It is now known that the experiment was deliberately designed to skew participant interactions. it's bad science and this channel fell for it.....without bothering to research further.
His experiment can explain us how someone becomes evil in situations gradually. That's what happened during ww2 It's precious knowledge to understand human rationale to commit crime and still justify the purpose
Except he pushed them to act bad, he made the guards make the prisoners do things. He was the one that pushed them to be bad so I do not think you're correct
@@nicoledoubleyou I think he is referring more to the Nazi soldiers doing the dirty work, not the few in charge that made tons of young soldiers into evil Nazis. What you said just backs up his theory.
Yeah, so even though the study produced similar results to what we find in non-scientific situations, the Stanford Prison Experiment is no longer considered a valid scientific study. He did encourage the guards to act in sadistic ways. Which, if he had done a double blind experiment- where one group is encouraged to be awful and the other isn't- would have been a completely valid experiment. But he seriously altered the experiment in order to get the results he wanted- results that are pretty valid, but not scientific.
U need an experiment to understand this basic thing!? Plz don't understand n just do wteven u can do without hurting or disturbing others bcoz wn this professor type of people tries to understand they just hurt and disturb others.
This experiment reminds me of a certain failed and disgraced former US leader's rise to power by promoting violence and giving people permission to hate others who are different than themselves and whose only success was dividing our nation.
@@facgodyt4932 Ummm bro, the dude faked the break down to get out.. lol. The experiment was a fraud and is not science. Hell the first place to hear of the study...new York times He didn't even send it into a scientific journal.
This video leaves a LOT of information out about how Lambardo had confirmation bias and kept giving orders to the guards to keep things tense and force a negative change.
@@ImDrewby Not really. It scrapes the surface of what happened, giving anyone who watches this video a reduced impression. If you present the experiment without proper criticism of its flaws like is done here, it gives the false impression the experiment yielded valid or generalizable results.
@@nonyobisniss7928i think all @dravian trying to say is: we have our nature, but we have free-will too. so, in a Flow state, "you become what you believe" "you believe what you accept+reflect from nature & Environment" "you accept what gives you motivation, path, or defined reality" "you get the active-expossure mostly from the strong"
lambardo believe he is a dedicating scientist. he reflect the reality. he accept that he & this world need to Know more bout human nature & behaviour. he need some defined reality, he need to keep his moral & authority, he need to keep his flow, etc. it motivates him. he get the active-expossure from his child-experiences, his presiden, etc
You can be a good person all your life, but if life keeps dragging you down, eventually you will cave and do that which takes least effort and gives most reward, essentially turning "evil" as they say.
@@Namrec_955well first people will usually appreciate how "strong" you are and second u should be "strong" for urself and not for others. Live life by your own moral values not others
Zimbardo manipulating the father's toxic masculinity so the kid won't be able to leave is both evil and genius. People criticize him a lot because of what he did, but the guy spent decades after this raising awareness about how society was failing men's mental health...
You mean he spent decades keeping the spotlight shined on himself and milking his 15 minutes for as long as humanly possible, just like a good little narcissistic sociopath? And Bruh, thinking of that on the spot that quick is NOT a good thing; he manipulated that dude - you have to be a certain personality type to do that shit to another person. And the fact that he’s a GD PSYCHOLOGIST and still did that, means that’s a dangerous individual.
Mistakes that were made: Zimbardo wasnt impartial but instead was within the experiment and he changed the expiriment to find out what HE wanted to see from it (telling prison guards to be more ruthless) No set way to leave was established I mean he proved what he set out to in the end but only by being so involved
You can actually be a participant observer. It's a valid observation method when you want to describe better the situation from an insider POV. Some researchers will live on the streets for some time to understand how individuals navigate this tough situation and socially organize themselves, for example. No observation method is 100% perfect and you always have to choose it wisely, knowing the downsides of each.
For this first one, I'll have to agree on that. However for the second and third point I'll disagree. He never explicitly told the guards to be more aggressive, they just learned it on their own and adapted to it. For the third point if there was an established way to leave then that would take away from the experience of the experiment, you could never truly feel trapped if you knew that there was a way out.
I was recently in jail, and one officer was EXTREMELY mean to me. I didn't talk about him or complain, but I overheard that he was well liked by the other prisoners, because supposedly his children are downsies. Interesting how the unfairness of life brings out the worst in people.
@@nightslasher9384 That's fucking gross n' extremely fucking sick! I'm going to go beat-up your jails hiring-manager! Not kidding. I could end up in jail again just because I want to do that.
guy was trying to find out if place make people bad or if people make place bad, but it looks like we all learned that unchecked power over others makes both people and place bad.
I disagree with the claim that this reaction to power is universal to all people. It's the same with the belief that money changes everyone; while the majority of people react this way to sudden money/power, many people will not. Only people that are driven by their desire for power or money (beyond having enough to live comfortably) will change like them. Consider the fact that all these people were students at Stanford. It is almost guaranteed they all had very affluent lifestyles - they had extremely limited experience with hardship/pain, thus lack empathy. The rate of sociopathy and SA in ivy league schools is higher than average. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the teacher consciously and deliberately put together a group of victims to torture with a group of co-conspiring students. He claims it all just got out of hand but I guarantee you I would not cross any of the lines they did, and if I saw what they did I have no doubt I would have reported it.
How do we know that though? Dude obviously influenced the experiment and this is just one very small sample. Not that I'd advocate redoing this experiment in any way but to be even remotely scientific about you'd have to use a bigger sample size and a control group or something. Preferably not influenced by a scientist who is clearly looking for a certain outcome...
@@LuigiMordelAlaume I don't believe him either. He claims ignorance now, but it's clear to me he lacked empathy. He didn't care about those kids and enjoyed controlling their identities.
Waiting almost 2 years going to court for my sentence was so stressful it destroyed my life. I spent 3 months in jail. Told myself it’s just three months, a small part of my life. Few days into it, I had no other life… you live in the moment. Although I was crossing of the days on a self made calendar, I was convinced I would freak out…get in trouble for fighting, and this would be the rest of my life. It was a punishment that I served and deserved but it changed me negatively for the rest of my life. The system turns good people. There is a percentage of people that should be there though. I would rather die than spend even 2 years like that, because I know what that would turn me into permanently.
Thats the thing about being in "psychology world" im on my way to finish my bachelor degrees in psychology, and trust me alot of old psychology experiments are either : harm animal, human or both and we just somehow go along with it. Sometimes some experiment gone wrong, but for psychology in general it either be : going success and nothing happen with the participants, going bad and we all just let it slide, going bad and basically traumatized every single participant (stanford and baby albert). Tbh Psychology experiment are more harsher and more messed up than the average stem experiment, because instead of chemical you literally playing with other peoples minds... its scary but that just how psychology works.
There was literally no permanent/longterm harm psychologically to these people they were interviewed extensively and it was found no permanent or longterm harm was done to them 🙄
@Jiren420 depends on the experiment. But OP forgot to mention the ethic guidelines are constantly updated now, but before they had little to no code of ethics. These experiments were highly flawerd because the board of ethics sucked
@@Jiren420even if what you said is true, doesn’t take away from the fact that a lot of early psychological experiments like the ones he’s talking about actually do leave the subjects either traumatized or dead (animals)
Try being in a mental hospital. Going in voluntary for seasonal affective disorder/depression symptoms...then being snatched and by their law you're now involuntary status and can only leave when they say.. based on how well you can suppress your emotions and take experimental medications well. If not.. the time keeps ticking.. and ticking..with no inside help/visitors just you and your "broken mind" no true help for the biology of the brain. Having a home, a job, children relationship etc.. good friends to support you asking why? Not having an actual reason or be a part of your (their) treatment plan. Upon discharge sent with stacks of meds. Told you must take the rest of your life..that is a life sentence. The invisible prison many walk around in. Dependent on pharma not wanting to or even believing but the POWER is seaming real. Lost human rights, never to hold the right to bear arms, questionable character any time you act "abnormal" in this wondefdully amazing normal society.. smfh
I think this really connects back to the video where you were explaining how much authority really controls us you made around a year ago which is still kind of crazy to me honestly.
they mention around halfway through the video that joining it was never his intention. It started as a typical experiment, but that type of power is addictive, so he too got involved. he said himself that it got out of hand.
I think what he is saying about the prisoners also taking responsibility for their actions is very interesting. I've been growing out of my life long victim mentality & something I struggle with is how much responsibility do I take. Yes I was victimized as a very small child, but now I'm middle aged feeling like I needed to change my reactions to responses at a much younger age. I've hurt a lot of folks by bleeding my pain on them...
This experiment captured my life perfectly. During my 8th grade, circumstances made me live like those prisoners which completely shattered my ego & ambitions in 6 month. Still to this day, I have trust issues, I don't complain about anything & I get scared of conflicts. Those six month changed me forever.
Tell us about your story man We want to share your suffering and I want to hear a real life prison like situation I haven't gone through. Also, I want to hear how it changed your life
I must have heard this story a couple dozen times in my life, but your video contains a lot of details I've never heard before. Great stuff, thank you!
This 'experiment' was extremely horribly constructed. As many have pointed out, what was the independent variable? What was he testing? In his plans to run another trial, what would he do differently to potentially observe an effect on... what data, exactly? That avoids the evidence he was influencing the students and trying to engineer an outcome. While we do have plenty of evidence that abuse correlates with power/access, if we are looking to study the dynamics of power and abuse, this is a data point that must be rejected.
To normal person everything is obvious. But you need a structure, a conformity to analyze the details. If you need to isolate every variable to see the issues at hand more clearly, then you are a plant. A vegetable.
I'll add more. I'm aware of how the scientific method is conducted. What about the kite and the key? What's the independent variable there? What is isolated?
Not all experiments have to be quantitative. This clearly wasn't. This was qualitative research. This was basically just throwing subjects into a prison-like environment assignment of the the roles and seeing what would happen overall. There's no need for things you laid out. This kind of experiment is common when you do something which nobody else have done before. If the research was repeated after the first one, then they could maybe make it quantitative with variables.
@@VarjoFilosofi The 'experiment' was fraudulent. The students were encouraged to become abusive. It was a conclusion in search of evidence. You're not entirely incorrect in regard to qualitative experimentation, however, there are still things like controls, variables, sample sizes, etc. While, yes, those would be constrained, a reasonable qualitative experiment would have brought up the fact its sample was limited, that there were limited ways to control for participation biases, etc.
@@Aim54Delta Encouragement could also be seen as a part of the experiment. Those kinds of systems practically do that in real life after all. If prisoners would stop obeying the guards, the warden would probably tell them to be abusive towards them. But yeah... I agree overall. Normally you should not "corrupt" your own research like that. Philip Zimbardo himself said that the entire experiment took him in also and even he became corrupted by the entire scenario. That was scary. I would say that the experiment was successful exactly because of that. In a very messy way, but still.
The guy who developed this experiment seems to have a complex with needing control. He is the one who is responsible for all this but he's discussing it as if he helped them: "when the experiment ended--when I chose to end it early.. how bad would things have gone if I had not chosen to end it early".. dude you didn't choose to end it early. You chose to keep going despite the obvious suffering of your students. And keeping them up all night? He's lucky he didn't get hurt. I believe more has emerged about this experiment and how biased it actually was, and how it does not properly represent how most people would react in this situation.
Psychology experiments are almost always some of the most unethical and scary things to hear about. But unfortunately if we wanna understand the human mind we have to learn it through things like these
@@stickibug my understanding was they wanted to test if good people can become bad or if people are just born bad. So pulling an actual criminal and a prison guard, they’d have already been set in their roots and it wouldn’t have been as noticeable to see a change. For the prisoner nothing would have changed, it would have been just moving cells, and same with the guard he’s just changing stations as opposed to throwing someone unaccustomed to that life into that life
@@stickibug the objective of the study was to see what happens when you put good people in bad situations. Do they turn into their situation or not? If they were to go to an actual prison it would be hard to differentiate the good natured people from the bad. I don't know if I'm making sense
Not the case for certain types of individuals, some of us have always understood complexities of the mind and emotion. The masses are simply numbed and brainwashed, by psychopaths and sociopaths in monetary power.
@@Bluntino The problem is people thikn they know themselves when they don't. It's more about "The situation". Stick to context and you'll go further. Generalize (eg: Good. Kind. Nice. Devoid of details/context) and it will only confuse yourself. Let alone others.
You would be the same in this given situation. Don't try to have a moral high ground and say u won't. Be in that same situation and u would be the same
@@facgodyt4932The fact that the warden confronted him about it, and asked him about the independent variable, means that you might not have been the same.
If anything, this experiment proves that you can convince someone to believe a lie if you immerse them in the lie. Fully surround them in the lie, only show them the lie, and when that's all they know... they believe the lie. It's scary what the mind does to cope, the lengths it goes to in order to keep from breaking.
anybody that works an entry level job knows this isn’t an experiment, but our everyday reality with under qualified “Managers” and coworkers who claim they’re “Friends” 😂
I work an entry level job, I am happy the coworkers are my friends and the managers try to help me to when I need help. The fact you dare to compare a prisoner with your own free life. Makes me assume that you are likely the problem not the "entry level job"
@@jeweetwie3498 and that’s why you will work at that entry level job for the rest of your existence. You ARE those unqualified managers and/or fake friends. 😂 Mind you, I wrote this three months ago, I moved on from entry level jobs as they just didn’t work for me. Enjoy your entry level prosperous career at McDonald’s! I hope it works out for you, babe! 🫶🏽
This reminds me of work when it comes to employees & management. The individuals who carry this "power" demand workers on a daily basis, nice or in rude manner does not matter as the wavelength of their own personal views change more than encounters (because they are humans with emotions). These demands narrow down employees from their options, feeling emotionally worthless, and always concluding that someone else will take their place if they do not comply to expectations. Scared to even defend oneself, can lead to addiction and emotional trauma. They all start on same ground, with equal experiences, however, when equal people get placed into different positions, especially one that may pay more, those equal humans they become opposite and divided. All while the big man sits in his office, calm and collected that this destruction is not his crime, when himself created this world. This is why I believe each work force should have monthly or even bi-monthly free therapy sessions for workers to maintain a healthy environment so employees can begin to find happiness at their job rather than a forced chore needing to survive.
The guy at the end really stated a great point. Everyone followed the orders without even saying nothing against. Even though the experiment was unethical, at least nowadays, it really shows really how the environment and authority can affect us. Thanks for the video!
I’ve seen this in the military, when people get a higher rank than their peers it’s like they flip a switch and get a high from feeling that small amount of extra power
I've been imprisoned in South Africa. Worst thing to ever happen to me mentally & physically. The conditions that prisoners here are subjected to are incredibly terrible beyond belief. Heart & soul crushing.
@@abiolaakorede1509 for alleged assault. I was the one assaulted by 3 individuals on my own property with weapons whilst I was unarmed & due to them having friends in the police I ended up getting arrested.
This video triggered my PTSD of my time in a psychiatric facility, I went there wanting help and they threw me in solitary confinement, gaslighting me the entire time of why I was there. I was SA and needed safety from my thoughts. They told me I was NEVER SA and that it was a delusion/psychosis and locked me in a cell. I still suffer everyday as a result. This psychological abuse and mistreatment is still going on, only now its actually funded and paid for by the government. (Canadian) The saddest part is its happening to our most vulnerable. Who's gonna believe a crazy person? The system has all of the power. They just write Psychosis on a piece of paper and everything the mentally ill person has gone through is discredited. Instead of fight, flight, or freeze, my trauma response is to deny reality. Gaslight myself into psychosis. Nothing is real, it didn't happen, I'm crazy, nothing is real, it didn't happen, my trauma is a delusion. My partner has to stop the flashbacks and remind me that it did happen, that my trauma is real, and that I'm real to help make the derealization/depersonalization and fragmentation to stop.
Also the "we would have to cancel the experiment early if they didn't make it difficult and extravagant" to the "They did this to themselves" at the end. You encouraged the guards to be mean, you shut down the happy easy going attitude of it all because your experiment wouldn't work otherwise. Then turn around shaming and blaming them for becoming absorbed by it. You didn't give them opportunities to discuss life outside of this. You made it their life, then blame them that it became their life. The cognitive dissonance and lack of accountability is sickening.
At least you can be better and be in shape in marine boot camps unlike this stupid experiment where it's all about freedom bro we all know there is no real freedom in this world everyone is either on their families or just completely working.
“it let me in on some knowledge that i’ve never experienced first hand” hooooo boy, the profound awareness and articulation on that one feels like in the not so distant future, a hell of a lot of people will be feeling that same way
What I have pulled from this experiment is the extreme importance of holding yourself and individuals of a group you are a part of accountable for moral or ethical faults at the first sign of the violation. Otherwise, precedent takes over, biases grow, and privilege is born.
Seems like an extremely important experiment, they all went in knowing it was paid roleplay and it took no less than a few days for them to immerse themselves into their false reality. Insanely awesome and shocking experiment that i pray we can learn valuable lessons about how humans work in positions of power.
My thoughts: "Most people who go to prison, come out as more dangerous personality who are ready to break more rules than before". If prison is supposed to be a place where people spend time to correct their behavior, then why do most prisons in the world are the most terrifying place to exist? If that place is suppose to change you for good, the most important factor is the surrounding. Countries like Sweden have a very luxurious prison and its effect is that the people who are kept there come out with a positive change. I am from India and the prisons in India are out of your imagination and I am saying this only from hearing the stories of other Indians who have been there. As a result, most people in India who have been to prison commit more crime once they're released. Human nature is so fascinating!
It is sick, but It's a resounding success, this experiment reframed the role of an observer, even a bystander is actively affected by the things he observe. Every role we assume leave a mark on ourselves. This experiment also shows how power corrupts and unchecked power corrupts absolutely everything, it also shows how fast people can be completely twisted towards corruption or towards hopelessness with the right incentives. Remember that every guard or prisoner was selected at the flip of a coin.
Just imagine what Andy Dufresne would have seen in those prisoners. Man,To be able to contain your soul from actually breaking apart in that prison, with the things that happened to him
It's so wild to me that nobody spoke up. But, as somebody who simply Never Shuts The Fuck Up, i could never, ever see myself being a part of this without having several things to say along the way. I wonder how I would do, but would not be willing to volunteer myself for it. Nuts.
So what makes anyone think we are not currently in an experiment just like this one? If you were born into it , would you or anyone else know it? Give the subjects a planet with every resource they could ever dream of , even the resources to leave it , and see what happens.
1:02 guy paid to go to school, he’s in college. He wants to learn, so he trusts the teacher and participates, in a study, expecting to be safe. Prison guards, probably are a little sadistic, so are actual prisoners. They aren’t there for singing too loudly in church. You need to train the guards first. The prisoners already know their job.
The interview at 25:00 is disturbing. Guard leaning forward, prisoner leaning away. Prisoner saying how harmful the experiment was and guard saying he doesnt believe it was. "I know youre a nice guy" "You dont know that" That guard loved this experiment.
It was hard for the guards to see how their power corrupts. This showed how we (esp. educated people) take abuse or give abuse for some sort gratification or future reward.
I feel like each day in life is an experiment, and mind games occur regularly since we rarely know what matters. Freedom is often discovered in prison, but the question is who's reality are you going by?
Day 1 the superintendent interfered and manipulated his subjects. He tampered with the experiment and thus ruined it. This whole thing was a joy ride for him. Just gross
Man if I was the new prisoner who was locked in a room for 2 days, I would literally beat the shit Outta the guards who came up with the idea of doing that to me
@@al-imranadore1182 When I was in holding they keep you in a very bright room with a gint window that looks into a hallway but you couldn't really see our of it at all. Room was kept ice cold, had someone not stuck toilet paper over the vent it would surely have been colder. Was stuck there for 3 days before I was moved to he bunkhouse. Things relaxed then.
The crazy part is that this is what actually happens in real prisons/jails. The guards are constantly finding ways to mess with people but they find ways that are very hard to prove or complain about. Like they’ll hit the cell doors every hour when you’re sleeping to wake you up. Or turn the lights on and off every hour. Just crazy sh!t that makes you feel like you’re going insane. They hide the time from you. They turn off the hot water when you’re showering. It’s wild.
Well I would say that this experiment was a success. They saw how the guards become corrupted . How the prisoners lost their solidarity and everyone was just a number. It had turned into a real person with real guards. Without the girlfriend of the doctor insisting it stop. It just got too real. Just as it does in real life. No doubt the prisoners we're broken down to what we now know is post-traumatic stress. Disorder.. guards believing they did nothing wrong . They were just doing what they were told to do. Isn't that what all the German soldiers said. Just following orders it was not their fault.
So with this study being conducted 3 things I now am thinking are 1. This is how people who are in actual jail are treated, so how is this going to help them, I feel this will only make prisoners behave worse when released. 2. People who are subjected to mental abuse in any relationship dynamic also feel these effects. 3. The power of love is remarkable. It made Dr. Z wake up from his delusional reality. Imagine had that not happen what would have happened to the people in the experiment.... very glad I watched this. It gave me a better perception. Thank you.
At first zimbardo said he was going to stop the experiment on the first because it was boring, but all of a sudden.... Then moments on he says change is gradual and not noticeable. I think he found enjoyment out of it.
honestly this experience should also show not only the psychological problem with power dynamics but also the entire problem with prisons in general. this is what really happens in prisons.
I spent 10 days in prison in Syria when I was just 20 years old just because I like Heavy Metal music (yeah, imagine that...) It was hell, because I went to the worst kind of prisons (since they see being a Metal Head is an act of rebellion against the state and the "Socialist Party") They crammed 50+ prisoners in one small room, we had to take shifts to sleep (on the floor of course), and one night I even slept standing up. The guards treated us like we were some sort of animals (even worse), they'd hit us, call us names, bully us, and basically do whatever they want with us because to them we are nothing but worthless creatures. I didn't see the sun for 10 days because it was 4 layers under the ground, and when you ask the guards about the time, they always reply "it's seven O'clock" just to mess with your head and keep you confused. No human being should ever be granted with this amount of power and control. Peace.
I think this experiment is interesing in terms of that both the guards and the prisoners knew the prisoners did not do anything wrong. Thats probably why prisoners rebelled very early on. The feeling of knowing you did nothing wrong,and you knew everyone knew that you did nothing wrong but still being in a jail cell creates very deep feeling of injustice and jelousy
The videos are absolutely awesome, but I have one, very personal complaint - rethink your sound effect for when a new photo appears on the screen, every time I hear this weird "click" it feels as though I can _feel_ it at the base of my skull, as if something clicked in my spine. Which, while sounding weird and almost as if I made it up, is extremely uncomfortable
Thanks for the feedback and you're not alone. Several people have expressed the same complaints too, so I'll stop adding the clicks next time 😄 now worries
@@pititbossou Don't think that's an issue of headphones. And also - my headphones are actually very high-end, if I wanted better ones I'd need to go into the audiophile category, and that's not cheap
@@pititbossou >has cheap headphones >tells high-end headphone users to get better headphones because he cant hear the thing they hear cant make this up
Yeah but in his mind(guards) its easier to keep the thought that its just an experiment & hes in character. That's the whole point & im sure most people playing the guard would wonder why tf no one is opposing them. They don't have it hard per say so easy to play the character. Thus "the experiment" lol
I know for one thing tho every person I’ve met through my life is that struggling and being in times that are very hard builds a better understanding of yourself but it is the actions you take afterwards that determine how your life will play out.
My dude did not conduct an experiment. He had a sandbox and a bunch of toys that he was breaking. You can take his "experiment" and come up with as many conclusions as you'd like but how it was set up will just give you faulty results and shaky psychology
What no one is talking about is that human psychology changes over time. If you did the same experiment today it would be totally different. The prisoners would be like totally chill, and when the guards shout you just say "what do I care, I'm getting outta here in a week and there's nothing you can do about it bro, plus I'm getting paid LOL. Heck, solitary confinement is supposed to be torture, and these days youtubers go into these silent rooms and solitary confinement rooms voluntarily for a week and when they come out say it was no big deal. We have become more chilled, relaxed, resilient, passively tolerating and patiently waiting out, because of a higher level of awareness than the previous generation, in fact we should repeat it to prove this.
When your in jail. Knowing your headed to prison. You can't simulate that. Act it out.ha ha like life itself it can't be taught only experienced. What ever this candy role play calls itself. Not a trip to hell like no other.
I was fine with the experiment until he said you couldn't leave. Depriving people of their rights is where I draw the line. And yes I know that's how real prisons are, but that doesn't mean it's fine.
I love this experiment sooo much lol it’s like he’s figuratively holding up a mirror to the worlds view on prisons lol this is happening All over americas prisons especially back then and they question why he didn’t step in? First of all he’s a physiologist doing his job and made a groundbreaking discovery meanwhile the real prisons have these wardens doing the same not doing anything about the wrongdoings of the guards this was perfect
Cool story bro but it has been stated and critically talked about this experiment Soo many times about how flawed it is and how he influenced the guards to do such things when he kept saying he never did and lying about it .
@@only1undrscore_442 the experiment wasn't about what humans can do when they are encouraged and forced to do it but what would they do if they had the power to do it .
I’ve read that originally, they asked the participants to volunteer to be either prisoners or guards but had to randomize the role assignments when no one volunteered to be the prison guards, they all opted to be prisoners when given a choice. I think this is a very interesting and important detail from the experiment that is sometimes overlooked. It suggests that people do not naturally wish to be dominant or controlling of others (at least the participants of this important experiment).
Yes, and that's only a fraction of what actually took place during this "study". It is now known that the experiment was deliberately designed to skew participant interactions. it's bad science and this channel fell for it.....without bothering to reseach further.
those were people of the 50s, a bygone era, peoples psychology have changed a lot since then, try the same experiment with Gen Z individuals and see what happens.🤔🤔🤔🤔
I think it's more like people don't want to do the thing that's gonna require them to do more work. As a prisoner you just listen to guards or act like you normally do but a guard has responsibilities and will have to put more work into their role
Kind, normal people don't. People who desire power and control over others do.
@@WobblesandBean WRONG!!!! Kind normal people don't desire the responsibility that comes with power, remove responsibility from power and there'll be no kind soul who doesn’t desire power.
It’s easy to be bad/evil. It takes effort to be a full on good person.
This need for effort to be good is what makes bad and evil easy actually.
@@RainbowGhostOverdrive elaborate 👂
@@TheRealBoogieTarantino people dont have the patience for that much effort and even if they have the patience and they become full on good people, it will tire them mentally.
@@palkay875 well you can only speak for yourself or what you seen in other people physically and I’ll agree it is work to stay a good person but it takes a level of discipline to be a good person. Aye let’s just say this, there was only one man that walked this earth that was a good person in and out (if you believe in it or not, the fact is he was the only one portrayed as a full on good person) but like i say it takes discipline in whatever you do to break a habit so why can’t it be a level of discipline needed to break the chain of evilness/ wickedness that is within everyone???
@@TheRealBoogieTarantino Naw we can definitely be all insanely good people, but you also need to be agreesive and a monster at the same time, and that takes disipline ay! Also we can't really " break " the evilness in everyone IMO.
The amount of work you put into these videos is amazing. You're so underrated...
American Psychologist has published a thorough debunking of the Stanford Prison Experiment. It is no longer being taught as a true experiment rather than used as an example of a very bad experiment.
This channel should make a new video of the truth about this "experiment" that was actually just the kids acting like they were under duress and the guards being pushed to do things they wouldn't normally do.
He’s good. I dont think he’s underrated tho. He’s just growing. If a year goes by and he only gets like 10k subs. Than yeah he’s underrated. But 150k since 2019. Aint bad
It would have been so much better to include a full and deep section detailing criticism (especially recent criticism) of this 'study' and how flawed it really was and how much Zimbardo lied for so long about not influencing the behavior of his participants, when, really, he never wanted to STUDY IF the prison system was flawed - he wanted to CLAIM THAT it was deeply flawed. Also, he clearly told 'guards' that they needed to be more ruthless, or they wouldn't be able to tell the whole world prison is the worst thing on earth - despite lying for so long that he never influenced anyone.
Yeah, not just that, but the fact that only a 4 of 12 guards were actually being ruthless. The others either stayed out of it, or actually helped the prisoners a little. When you combine that with the role Zimbardo played in the experiment, as the mock warden, and the very small and biased sample size, of just 24 American students, it breaks every rule in the book, about what makes a good scientific experiment. The only reason it's so famous, is because it produced results that seemed terrifying. Those results have never been replicated, nor were they even valid in the first place. Zimbardo gets far too much credit for an experiment which didn't produce any valid or reliable results, and has honestly, in my opinion, has done more to damage our understanding of the human mind, than to help grow it.
Yeah it was bad science. He literally was asked "what is your independent variable" and he didn't/couldn't answer. Small sample size of a specific type of student (white college educated men) and he openly says he was trying to influence the student's behavior. They absolutely WERE talking about normal things until he literally told them to stop. This is a case study of confirmation bias, not how environment effects people's behavior.
Alas, in our everyday walking society, be it a broadcaster from certain media claiming that punishment for wrongdoing must be swift and absolute, a head of corrections for a state system, or the President of the United States themself, people ARE influenced to behave in terrible ways to fellow humans. The one guard even referenced "Cool Hand Luke," a film which I love for its display of camaraderie, as his inspiration to be wretched. Despite the immense flaws of Stanford, I don't need an experiment to conclude that captivity is a horrible experience.
thank you for bringing this up. this was not a study or proper experiment.
Yes, and that's only a fraction of what actually took place during this "study". It is now known that the experiment was deliberately designed to skew participant interactions. it's bad science and this channel fell for it.....without bothering to research further.
His experiment can explain us how someone becomes evil in situations gradually.
That's what happened during ww2
It's precious knowledge to understand human rationale to commit crime and still justify the purpose
Except he pushed them to act bad, he made the guards make the prisoners do things. He was the one that pushed them to be bad so I do not think you're correct
@@nicoledoubleyou I think he is referring more to the Nazi soldiers doing the dirty work, not the few in charge that made tons of young soldiers into evil Nazis. What you said just backs up his theory.
Yeah, so even though the study produced similar results to what we find in non-scientific situations, the Stanford Prison Experiment is no longer considered a valid scientific study. He did encourage the guards to act in sadistic ways. Which, if he had done a double blind experiment- where one group is encouraged to be awful and the other isn't- would have been a completely valid experiment. But he seriously altered the experiment in order to get the results he wanted- results that are pretty valid, but not scientific.
U need an experiment to understand this basic thing!? Plz don't understand n just do wteven u can do without hurting or disturbing others bcoz wn this professor type of people tries to understand they just hurt and disturb others.
This experiment reminds me of a certain failed and disgraced former US leader's rise to power by promoting violence and giving people permission to hate others who are different than themselves and whose only success was dividing our nation.
This experiment is absolutely terrifying :( It shocked me how power vastly changed one's behavior...
This experiment is fraudulent, Zimbardo coached the guards on how to behave to create these situations, they didn't happen naturally.
It's not science. It's a bull study. So no need to stress lol.
@@codytownsend3259nope, it is a real experiment with real consequences. Try to be more open minded or give actual points on why u think this is bull
.@@facgodyt4932 Literally this is a problematic study..do some research. it did not show what they claimed at all..
@@facgodyt4932 Ummm bro, the dude faked the break down to get out.. lol. The experiment was a fraud and is not science. Hell the first place to hear of the study...new York times
He didn't even send it into a scientific journal.
This video leaves a LOT of information out about how Lambardo had confirmation bias and kept giving orders to the guards to keep things tense and force a negative change.
It literally talks about that
@@ImDrewby Not really. It scrapes the surface of what happened, giving anyone who watches this video a reduced impression. If you present the experiment without proper criticism of its flaws like is done here, it gives the false impression the experiment yielded valid or generalizable results.
@@nonyobisniss7928i think all @dravian trying to say is:
we have our nature, but we have free-will too.
so, in a Flow state,
"you become what you believe"
"you believe what you accept+reflect from nature & Environment"
"you accept what gives you motivation, path, or defined reality"
"you get the active-expossure mostly from the strong"
lambardo believe he is a dedicating scientist.
he reflect the reality.
he accept that he & this world need to Know more bout human nature & behaviour.
he need some defined reality, he need to keep his moral & authority, he need to keep his flow, etc. it motivates him.
he get the active-expossure from his child-experiences, his presiden, etc
@@nonyobisniss7928 it LITERALLY does criticize the experiments flaws, and the entire video talks about how Lambardo was compromised.
You can be a good person all your life, but if life keeps dragging you down, eventually you will cave and do that which takes least effort and gives most reward, essentially turning "evil" as they say.
That’s why it truly takes an incredibly strong person to be good and kind in this world regardless of it all.
@@jackiewacky2086you can remain "strong" as how much as you want, but if no one appreciate how "strong" you are, its foolish
Maybe so
@@Namrec_955well first people will usually appreciate how "strong" you are and second u should be "strong" for urself and not for others. Live life by your own moral values not others
@@Namrec_955 if you want the world to be a better place then make it so
Zimbardo manipulating the father's toxic masculinity so the kid won't be able to leave is both evil and genius. People criticize him a lot because of what he did, but the guy spent decades after this raising awareness about how society was failing men's mental health...
No literally. I was like oh he’s quick when he thought of that on the spot.
”muh toxic masculinity” clown
If only Toxic Masculinity existed
You mean he spent decades keeping the spotlight shined on himself and milking his 15 minutes for as long as humanly possible, just like a good little narcissistic sociopath?
And Bruh, thinking of that on the spot that quick is NOT a good thing; he manipulated that dude - you have to be a certain personality type to do that shit to another person. And the fact that he’s a GD PSYCHOLOGIST and still did that, means that’s a dangerous individual.
@@NightRogue77so what should he have done? Care to enlighten everyone instead of throwing criticism with no insight?
Mistakes that were made:
Zimbardo wasnt impartial but instead was within the experiment
and he changed the expiriment to find out what HE wanted to see from it (telling prison guards to be more ruthless)
No set way to leave was established
I mean he proved what he set out to in the end but only by being so involved
@@nathanlewis1285 haha true that 😂
You can actually be a participant observer. It's a valid observation method when you want to describe better the situation from an insider POV. Some researchers will live on the streets for some time to understand how individuals navigate this tough situation and socially organize themselves, for example. No observation method is 100% perfect and you always have to choose it wisely, knowing the downsides of each.
@@capsulamental yh i dunno about it working with this experiment tho but im no expert lol
I think he was playing god, and didn't care about the students.
For this first one, I'll have to agree on that. However for the second and third point I'll disagree. He never explicitly told the guards to be more aggressive, they just learned it on their own and adapted to it. For the third point if there was an established way to leave then that would take away from the experience of the experiment, you could never truly feel trapped if you knew that there was a way out.
I was recently in jail, and one officer was EXTREMELY mean to me. I didn't talk about him or complain, but I overheard that he was well liked by the other prisoners, because supposedly his children are downsies. Interesting how the unfairness of life brings out the worst in people.
Mine wanted to touch me when he get the chance… 😢
@@nightslasher9384 That's fucking gross n' extremely fucking sick! I'm going to go beat-up your jails hiring-manager! Not kidding. I could end up in jail again just because I want to do that.
What did he do to you?
@@nightslasher9384yo you good?
You went to prison for a reason I don't fuck my sympathy for you
it's impossible not to internalize something while actively entertaining it
guy was trying to find out if place make people bad or if people make place bad, but it looks like we all learned that unchecked power over others makes both people and place bad.
I disagree with the claim that this reaction to power is universal to all people. It's the same with the belief that money changes everyone; while the majority of people react this way to sudden money/power, many people will not. Only people that are driven by their desire for power or money (beyond having enough to live comfortably) will change like them.
Consider the fact that all these people were students at Stanford. It is almost guaranteed they all had very affluent lifestyles - they had extremely limited experience with hardship/pain, thus lack empathy. The rate of sociopathy and SA in ivy league schools is higher than average.
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the teacher consciously and deliberately put together a group of victims to torture with a group of co-conspiring students. He claims it all just got out of hand but I guarantee you I would not cross any of the lines they did, and if I saw what they did I have no doubt I would have reported it.
How do we know that though? Dude obviously influenced the experiment and this is just one very small sample.
Not that I'd advocate redoing this experiment in any way but to be even remotely scientific about you'd have to use a bigger sample size and a control group or something.
Preferably not influenced by a scientist who is clearly looking for a certain outcome...
Agreed! It disgust me that he had the gaul to forbid them to leave and manipulated their families. He knew what he was doing.
@@LuigiMordelAlaume I don't believe him either. He claims ignorance now, but it's clear to me he lacked empathy. He didn't care about those kids and enjoyed controlling their identities.
@@zwenkwiel816 He honestly employed a lot of brain washing techniques to prevent the experiment from coming to an end.
Waiting almost 2 years going to court for my sentence was so stressful it destroyed my life. I spent 3 months in jail. Told myself it’s just three months, a small part of my life. Few days into it, I had no other life… you live in the moment. Although I was crossing of the days on a self made calendar, I was convinced I would freak out…get in trouble for fighting, and this would be the rest of my life. It was a punishment that I served and deserved but it changed me negatively for the rest of my life. The system turns good people. There is a percentage of people that should be there though. I would rather die than spend even 2 years like that, because I know what that would turn me into permanently.
Thats the thing about being in "psychology world" im on my way to finish my bachelor degrees in psychology, and trust me alot of old psychology experiments are either : harm animal, human or both and we just somehow go along with it. Sometimes some experiment gone wrong, but for psychology in general it either be : going success and nothing happen with the participants, going bad and we all just let it slide, going bad and basically traumatized every single participant (stanford and baby albert). Tbh Psychology experiment are more harsher and more messed up than the average stem experiment, because instead of chemical you literally playing with other peoples minds... its scary but that just how psychology works.
There was literally no permanent/longterm harm psychologically to these people they were interviewed extensively and it was found no permanent or longterm harm was done to them 🙄
@Jiren420 depends on the experiment. But OP forgot to mention the ethic guidelines are constantly updated now, but before they had little to no code of ethics. These experiments were highly flawerd because the board of ethics sucked
@@Jiren420sure there wasn't 🙄
@@Jiren420even if what you said is true, doesn’t take away from the fact that a lot of early psychological experiments like the ones he’s talking about actually do leave the subjects either traumatized or dead (animals)
Wow
This whole experiment is wrong. If people wanna quit and you tell them they can't that should be illegal. And this guy got famous off it
They were weak minded
Yeah kind of weird how he was never charged. Different times I guess...
And the fact that they legitimately thought about lying and trying to entrap the prisoner that left is genuine evil
it is illegal, its likely they signed a contract but even then the contracts cant have things like that i believe.
Try being in a mental hospital. Going in voluntary for seasonal affective disorder/depression symptoms...then being snatched and by their law you're now involuntary status and can only leave when they say.. based on how well you can suppress your emotions and take experimental medications well. If not.. the time keeps ticking.. and ticking..with no inside help/visitors just you and your "broken mind" no true help for the biology of the brain.
Having a home, a job, children relationship etc.. good friends to support you asking why? Not having an actual reason or be a part of your (their) treatment plan. Upon discharge sent with stacks of meds. Told you must take the rest of your life..that is a life sentence. The invisible prison many walk around in. Dependent on pharma not wanting to or even believing but the POWER is seaming real.
Lost human rights, never to hold the right to bear arms, questionable character any time you act "abnormal" in this wondefdully amazing normal society.. smfh
I think this really connects back to the video where you were explaining how much authority really controls us you made around a year ago which is still kind of crazy to me honestly.
there’s absolutely no excuse for him to be participating in his own experiment and actively becoming one of the torturers
Which is one of the reasons why this experiment is so important. A clear demonstration on what not to do when conducting psychological experiments.
they mention around halfway through the video that joining it was never his intention. It started as a typical experiment, but that type of power is addictive, so he too got involved. he said himself that it got out of hand.
I think what he is saying about the prisoners also taking responsibility for their actions is very interesting. I've been growing out of my life long victim mentality & something I struggle with is how much responsibility do I take. Yes I was victimized as a very small child, but now I'm middle aged feeling like I needed to change my reactions to responses at a much younger age. I've hurt a lot of folks by bleeding my pain on them...
like he had any choice. power corrupts, its just natural. there is no excuse because it was not mistake, it was inevitable.
Excuse? Why'd you need an excuse? It simply happened
This experiment captured my life perfectly.
During my 8th grade, circumstances made me live like those prisoners which completely shattered my ego & ambitions in 6 month.
Still to this day, I have trust issues, I don't complain about anything & I get scared of conflicts.
Those six month changed me forever.
Tell us about your story man
We want to share your suffering and I want to hear a real life prison like situation I haven't gone through.
Also, I want to hear how it changed your life
Imagine living like this for 20 years since childhood
I must have heard this story a couple dozen times in my life, but your video contains a lot of details I've never heard before. Great stuff, thank you!
This 'experiment' was extremely horribly constructed. As many have pointed out, what was the independent variable? What was he testing? In his plans to run another trial, what would he do differently to potentially observe an effect on... what data, exactly?
That avoids the evidence he was influencing the students and trying to engineer an outcome.
While we do have plenty of evidence that abuse correlates with power/access, if we are looking to study the dynamics of power and abuse, this is a data point that must be rejected.
To normal person everything is obvious. But you need a structure, a conformity to analyze the details. If you need to isolate every variable to see the issues at hand more clearly, then you are a plant. A vegetable.
I'll add more. I'm aware of how the scientific method is conducted. What about the kite and the key? What's the independent variable there? What is isolated?
Not all experiments have to be quantitative. This clearly wasn't. This was qualitative research.
This was basically just throwing subjects into a prison-like environment assignment of the the roles and seeing what would happen overall. There's no need for things you laid out.
This kind of experiment is common when you do something which nobody else have done before. If the research was repeated after the first one, then they could maybe make it quantitative with variables.
@@VarjoFilosofi
The 'experiment' was fraudulent. The students were encouraged to become abusive. It was a conclusion in search of evidence.
You're not entirely incorrect in regard to qualitative experimentation, however, there are still things like controls, variables, sample sizes, etc. While, yes, those would be constrained, a reasonable qualitative experiment would have brought up the fact its sample was limited, that there were limited ways to control for participation biases, etc.
@@Aim54Delta Encouragement could also be seen as a part of the experiment. Those kinds of systems practically do that in real life after all. If prisoners would stop obeying the guards, the warden would probably tell them to be abusive towards them.
But yeah... I agree overall. Normally you should not "corrupt" your own research like that. Philip Zimbardo himself said that the entire experiment took him in also and even he became corrupted by the entire scenario. That was scary.
I would say that the experiment was successful exactly because of that. In a very messy way, but still.
The guy who developed this experiment seems to have a complex with needing control. He is the one who is responsible for all this but he's discussing it as if he helped them: "when the experiment ended--when I chose to end it early.. how bad would things have gone if I had not chosen to end it early".. dude you didn't choose to end it early. You chose to keep going despite the obvious suffering of your students. And keeping them up all night? He's lucky he didn't get hurt. I believe more has emerged about this experiment and how biased it actually was, and how it does not properly represent how most people would react in this situation.
Yea, he was definitely a mad man...
The definition of a psychopath!
definitely,, this was not spontaneous behavio
All people are corrupt it just varies between people on how much they show it
As long as there was a situation that involve power the suffering can also present to those victims and thats how our world work
@@curiouswind9196 How about keanu reeves?
Psychology experiments are almost always some of the most unethical and scary things to hear about. But unfortunately if we wanna understand the human mind we have to learn it through things like these
@@stickibug the point is randomized control groups - the only difference between guard and prisoner is random chance
@@stickibug my understanding was they wanted to test if good people can become bad or if people are just born bad. So pulling an actual criminal and a prison guard, they’d have already been set in their roots and it wouldn’t have been as noticeable to see a change. For the prisoner nothing would have changed, it would have been just moving cells, and same with the guard he’s just changing stations as opposed to throwing someone unaccustomed to that life into that life
@@stickibug the objective of the study was to see what happens when you put good people in bad situations. Do they turn into their situation or not? If they were to go to an actual prison it would be hard to differentiate the good natured people from the bad. I don't know if I'm making sense
Maybe, first understand the animal mind.
Not the case for certain types of individuals, some of us have always understood complexities of the mind and emotion.
The masses are simply numbed and brainwashed, by psychopaths and sociopaths in monetary power.
someone need to make an experiment that fixes psychology (forever)
They did its called Humility
The answer would be "Yourself"
@@Bluntino The problem is people thikn they know themselves when they don't. It's more about "The situation".
Stick to context and you'll go further. Generalize (eg: Good. Kind. Nice. Devoid of details/context) and it will only confuse yourself. Let alone others.
@@Veldazandtea if people knew who they were they would choose to be humble and unassuming
Exactly!
So he only felt guilty after he was threatened that he will no longer get ass, sounds like a psychopath to me
Hes common AF
This "psychologist" is stupid. He's lucky he didn't get harmed.
You would be the same in this given situation. Don't try to have a moral high ground and say u won't. Be in that same situation and u would be the same
@@facgodyt4932The fact that the warden confronted him about it, and asked him about the independent variable, means that you might not have been the same.
I think he was definitely a sociopath, he was sick.
goes to show not everyone should be a psychologist but they should go see one profusely
The fuck are you talking about
Well from this experiment, i really learned that Money and Power can test us that we are really good person or not
They were brainwashed.
If anything, this experiment proves that you can convince someone to believe a lie if you immerse them in the lie. Fully surround them in the lie, only show them the lie, and when that's all they know... they believe the lie. It's scary what the mind does to cope, the lengths it goes to in order to keep from breaking.
This is about as detailed of a video i've ever watched about the experiment. Thank you.
A similar video from another creator about the mouse experiment. ua-cam.com/video/NgGLFozNM2o/v-deo.html
Wow, This was really interesting. This really shows us how we can be corrupted by power. The videos that you make are amazing.
How on earth does it show that? They were told to act tougher..they were told to be more cruel...it wasn't natural
anybody that works an entry level job knows this isn’t an experiment, but our everyday reality with under qualified “Managers” and coworkers who claim they’re “Friends” 😂
I work an entry level job, I am happy the coworkers are my friends and the managers try to help me to when I need help. The fact you dare to compare a prisoner with your own free life. Makes me assume that you are likely the problem not the "entry level job"
@@jeweetwie3498
and that’s why you will work at that entry level job for the rest of your existence.
You ARE those unqualified managers and/or fake friends. 😂
Mind you, I wrote this three months ago, I moved on from entry level jobs as they just didn’t work for me.
Enjoy your entry level prosperous career at McDonald’s! I hope it works out for you, babe! 🫶🏽
@@jeweetwie3498 You're in the privileged cell.
Imagine adding a real convict to the mix to beat the dog breaks off them when they started power tripping
This reminds me of work when it comes to employees & management. The individuals who carry this "power" demand workers on a daily basis, nice or in rude manner does not matter as the wavelength of their own personal views change more than encounters (because they are humans with emotions). These demands narrow down employees from their options, feeling emotionally worthless, and always concluding that someone else will take their place if they do not comply to expectations. Scared to even defend oneself, can lead to addiction and emotional trauma. They all start on same ground, with equal experiences, however, when equal people get placed into different positions, especially one that may pay more, those equal humans they become opposite and divided. All while the big man sits in his office, calm and collected that this destruction is not his crime, when himself created this world. This is why I believe each work force should have monthly or even bi-monthly free therapy sessions for workers to maintain a healthy environment so employees can begin to find happiness at their job rather than a forced chore needing to survive.
The guy at the end really stated a great point. Everyone followed the orders without even saying nothing against.
Even though the experiment was unethical, at least nowadays, it really shows really how the environment and authority can affect us.
Thanks for the video!
I’ve seen this in the military, when people get a higher rank than their peers it’s like they flip a switch and get a high from feeling that small amount of extra power
young army vet here and this is facts and one of the main reasons why i got out
this is one of the most fascinating things I have ever seen. To think of the extent people can change, in a simulation mind you, is mindblowing.
I've been imprisoned in South Africa. Worst thing to ever happen to me mentally & physically. The conditions that prisoners here are subjected to are incredibly terrible beyond belief. Heart & soul crushing.
Fortunately it’s pretty easy to not be a criminal
@@mister9mm58 True. People are not always imprisoned for being a criminal though. Also criminals are still human beings.
@@Leonidas300SPwhy were you imprisoned
@@abiolaakorede1509 for alleged assault. I was the one assaulted by 3 individuals on my own property with weapons whilst I was unarmed & due to them having friends in the police I ended up getting arrested.
This video triggered my PTSD of my time in a psychiatric facility, I went there wanting help and they threw me in solitary confinement, gaslighting me the entire time of why I was there. I was SA and needed safety from my thoughts. They told me I was NEVER SA and that it was a delusion/psychosis and locked me in a cell. I still suffer everyday as a result. This psychological abuse and mistreatment is still going on, only now its actually funded and paid for by the government. (Canadian)
The saddest part is its happening to our most vulnerable. Who's gonna believe a crazy person?
The system has all of the power.
They just write Psychosis on a piece of paper and everything the mentally ill person has gone through is discredited.
Instead of fight, flight, or freeze, my trauma response is to deny reality. Gaslight myself into psychosis. Nothing is real, it didn't happen, I'm crazy, nothing is real, it didn't happen, my trauma is a delusion.
My partner has to stop the flashbacks and remind me that it did happen, that my trauma is real, and that I'm real to help make the derealization/depersonalization and fragmentation to stop.
Also the "we would have to cancel the experiment early if they didn't make it difficult and extravagant" to the "They did this to themselves" at the end. You encouraged the guards to be mean, you shut down the happy easy going attitude of it all because your experiment wouldn't work otherwise. Then turn around shaming and blaming them for becoming absorbed by it. You didn't give them opportunities to discuss life outside of this. You made it their life, then blame them that it became their life. The cognitive dissonance and lack of accountability is sickening.
This is almost exactly the same type of environment marine corps boot camp was…
At least you can be better and be in shape in marine boot camps unlike this stupid experiment where it's all about freedom bro we all know there is no real freedom in this world everyone is either on their families or just completely working.
“it let me in on some knowledge that i’ve never experienced first hand”
hooooo boy, the profound awareness and articulation on that one
feels like in the not so distant future, a hell of a lot of people will be feeling that same way
What I have pulled from this experiment is the extreme importance of holding yourself and individuals of a group you are a part of accountable for moral or ethical faults at the first sign of the violation. Otherwise, precedent takes over, biases grow, and privilege is born.
The man who was the abusive guard should be on a watch list somewhere. Conducting his "own little experiments"?!? Wtf?!?
The only real difference between prisoners and guards was the flip of a coin.
He was just the creative type.
Seems like an extremely important experiment, they all went in knowing it was paid roleplay and it took no less than a few days for them to immerse themselves into their false reality. Insanely awesome and shocking experiment that i pray we can learn valuable lessons about how humans work in positions of power.
They were all brainwashed by this doctor.
They made a movie out of this - The Stanford Prison Experiment, great watch!
My thoughts:
"Most people who go to prison, come out as more dangerous personality who are ready to break more rules than before".
If prison is supposed to be a place where people spend time to correct their behavior, then why do most prisons in the world are the most terrifying place to exist? If that place is suppose to change you for good, the most important factor is the surrounding. Countries like Sweden have a very luxurious prison and its effect is that the people who are kept there come out with a positive change.
I am from India and the prisons in India are out of your imagination and I am saying this only from hearing the stories of other Indians who have been there. As a result, most people in India who have been to prison commit more crime once they're released.
Human nature is so fascinating!
Its interesting to hear the "guard" at the end blaming the victims.
This is very interesting experiment. I have watched few videos on this experiment but your content quality and presentation is best.
Bless his "wife" she had enough empathy to see straight through and spoke up.
Good people aren't made for jail but they don't know how to wrongfully fight for freedom, but rather be patient as a victim of abuse. -JauntyHero
This is kind of sick! For a psychologist to loose control in its own experiment is unacceptable!
This guy has to stop working in this field!
As psychologically damaging as it may have been, the experiment has without a doubt helped psychology alot
It is sick, but It's a resounding success, this experiment reframed the role of an observer, even a bystander is actively affected by the things he observe.
Every role we assume leave a mark on ourselves.
This experiment also shows how power corrupts and unchecked power corrupts absolutely everything, it also shows how fast people can be completely twisted towards corruption or towards hopelessness with the right incentives.
Remember that every guard or prisoner was selected at the flip of a coin.
Agreed!
Just imagine what Andy Dufresne would have seen in those prisoners. Man,To be able to contain your soul from actually breaking apart in that prison, with the things that happened to him
He would have thought everyone involved was a little bitch cause that's how I feel and I haven't done near the time Andy did
Decades later and these guys still cryin about PTSD from five nights in a FAKE prison run by kids with no experience in the field LMFAO
It's so wild to me that nobody spoke up. But, as somebody who simply Never Shuts The Fuck Up, i could never, ever see myself being a part of this without having several things to say along the way. I wonder how I would do, but would not be willing to volunteer myself for it. Nuts.
You would be the prisoners who started the rebellion day one only to be isolated until you break down in isolation.
So what makes anyone think we are not currently in an experiment just like this one?
If you were born into it , would you or anyone else know it?
Give the subjects a planet with every resource they could ever dream of , even the resources to leave it , and see what happens.
Tru man show lol
Cuz it makes absolutely zero sense.
Woah, Woah, Woah….Calm down big fella you’ll have the FBI on your doorstep 🤫
Occam's razor.
Everybody is a moron, so we couldn't keep it a secret.
1:02 guy paid to go to school, he’s in college. He wants to learn, so he trusts the teacher and participates, in a study, expecting to be safe. Prison guards, probably are a little sadistic, so are actual prisoners. They aren’t there for singing too loudly in church. You need to train the guards first. The prisoners already know their job.
The only difference between prisoners and guards was the flip of a coin.
I’d love to actually see the clinical takeaways from this unusual experiment.
The interview at 25:00 is disturbing. Guard leaning forward, prisoner leaning away. Prisoner saying how harmful the experiment was and guard saying he doesnt believe it was.
"I know youre a nice guy"
"You dont know that"
That guard loved this experiment.
It's the lack of shame that gets me, I wouldn't want to show my face never mind feature in documentaries about it
I think the doctor loved the experiment.
@@deborahminter6231 seems so
"Why didn't people stop me?" Why did you even try to do it in the first place sir!?!?!? 🤯
it's crazy how much we overestimate how strong our minds are
like all these people came in thinking they'd at least remember their identities and not fall into insanity for 2 weeks
It was hard for the guards to see how their power corrupts. This showed how we (esp. educated people) take abuse or give abuse for some sort gratification or future reward.
amazing work as always. looking forward to more content in the future!
I feel like each day in life is an experiment, and mind games occur regularly since we rarely know what matters. Freedom is often discovered in prison, but the question is who's reality are you going by?
Day 1 the superintendent interfered and manipulated his subjects. He tampered with the experiment and thus ruined it. This whole thing was a joy ride for him. Just gross
Today we see ourselves as above this. No way could this happen today... but it can.
You wouldnt expect something like this to actually be taken this seriously crazy what having power over people does to people
Man if I was the new prisoner who was locked in a room for 2 days, I would literally beat the shit Outta the guards who came up with the idea of doing that to me
Oh yea you definitely fail the experiment
I mean that's real jail you spend 3 days in the holding cell with a bunch of other guys, cold room, no windows, no beds or blankets.
beds and blankets aren't necessary for me but having no windows will freak me out, that's like being stuck in a freezer or buried alive.
@@al-imranadore1182 When I was in holding they keep you in a very bright room with a gint window that looks into a hallway but you couldn't really see our of it at all. Room was kept ice cold, had someone not stuck toilet paper over the vent it would surely have been colder. Was stuck there for 3 days before I was moved to he bunkhouse. Things relaxed then.
@@Ronin-R410A How can you not see through a window???
The crazy part is that this is what actually happens in real prisons/jails. The guards are constantly finding ways to mess with people but they find ways that are very hard to prove or complain about. Like they’ll hit the cell doors every hour when you’re sleeping to wake you up. Or turn the lights on and off every hour. Just crazy sh!t that makes you feel like you’re going insane. They hide the time from you. They turn off the hot water when you’re showering. It’s wild.
Well I would say that this experiment was a success. They saw how the guards become corrupted . How the prisoners lost their solidarity and everyone was just a number. It had turned into a real person with real guards. Without the girlfriend of the doctor insisting it stop. It just got too real. Just as it does in real life. No doubt the prisoners we're broken down to what we now know is post-traumatic stress. Disorder.. guards believing they did nothing wrong . They were just doing what they were told to do. Isn't that what all the German soldiers said. Just following orders it was not their fault.
It wasn't a proper experiment, and Zembardo skewed the results by influencing the behaviour of the guards by telling them to act more ruthless.
So with this study being conducted 3 things I now am thinking are 1. This is how people who are in actual jail are treated, so how is this going to help them, I feel this will only make prisoners behave worse when released. 2. People who are subjected to mental abuse in any relationship dynamic also feel these effects. 3. The power of love is remarkable. It made Dr. Z wake up from his delusional reality. Imagine had that not happen what would have happened to the people in the experiment.... very glad I watched this. It gave me a better perception. Thank you.
At first zimbardo said he was going to stop the experiment on the first because it was boring, but all of a sudden....
Then moments on he says change is gradual and not noticeable.
I think he found enjoyment out of it.
I don't believe him at all. He was thriving off the misery. I honestly think he thought it was cool to take those kid's identities from them.
This is my new favorite UA-cam channel. So happy I found it
We are actively squashing the little good we are cradling in the dark, there’s little time my people we need to change soon.
honestly this experience should also show not only the psychological problem with power dynamics but also the entire problem with prisons in general. this is what really happens in prisons.
This experiment should have showed that prisons are a flawed system and should be reserved only for the worst crimes
It wasn't the Standford Prison experiment, long before that Dr. Milgram shook the world of psychology / sociology.
It is like watching The Clockwork Orange! Do they really change? Or just suppress the evilness within?
That, "don't you know," was the most old timey plea for help I've ever heard. 😓
I spent 10 days in prison in Syria when I was just 20 years old just because I like Heavy Metal music (yeah, imagine that...)
It was hell, because I went to the worst kind of prisons (since they see being a Metal Head is an act of rebellion against the state and the "Socialist Party")
They crammed 50+ prisoners in one small room, we had to take shifts to sleep (on the floor of course), and one night I even slept standing up.
The guards treated us like we were some sort of animals (even worse), they'd hit us, call us names, bully us, and basically do whatever they want with us because to them we are nothing but worthless creatures.
I didn't see the sun for 10 days because it was 4 layers under the ground, and when you ask the guards about the time, they always reply "it's seven O'clock" just to mess with your head and keep you confused.
No human being should ever be granted with this amount of power and control.
Peace.
This is such an accurate representation. Thank you, brother.
I think this experiment is interesing in terms of that both the guards and the prisoners knew the prisoners did not do anything wrong. Thats probably why prisoners rebelled very early on. The feeling of knowing you did nothing wrong,and you knew everyone knew that you did nothing wrong but still being in a jail cell creates very deep feeling of injustice and jelousy
The last guy in video. It's so scary that his true personality also developed to authoritative type after that experiment, hope he changed later.
Good video, covers all of it and very clear, keep up the good work!
The blond guard: can you imagine him as a real police officer? He's the type they like to hire. Terrifying.
I was asking myself when you would cover it
it’s so easy to hate 💔 it takes strength 💞 to be gentle and kind 🐛💚
The videos are absolutely awesome, but I have one, very personal complaint - rethink your sound effect for when a new photo appears on the screen, every time I hear this weird "click" it feels as though I can _feel_ it at the base of my skull, as if something clicked in my spine. Which, while sounding weird and almost as if I made it up, is extremely uncomfortable
get better headphones
Thanks for the feedback and you're not alone. Several people have expressed the same complaints too, so I'll stop adding the clicks next time 😄 now worries
@@pititbossou Don't think that's an issue of headphones. And also - my headphones are actually very high-end, if I wanted better ones I'd need to go into the audiophile category, and that's not cheap
@@VVen0m well i guess mine are shit cause i don't even know what click you're talking about
@@pititbossou >has cheap headphones
>tells high-end headphone users to get better headphones because he cant hear the thing they hear
cant make this up
bro my UA-cam was lagging and I only saw the title not the thumbnail yet I still knew it was gonna be Zimbardo💀
"And no one stopped me"
Because that's what trauma does to people 😃??
Wow it's almost like people get scared and shut down when threatened 😃😃
Yeah but in his mind(guards) its easier to keep the thought that its just an experiment & hes in character. That's the whole point & im sure most people playing the guard would wonder why tf no one is opposing them. They don't have it hard per say so easy to play the character. Thus "the experiment" lol
I know for one thing tho every person I’ve met through my life is that struggling and being in times that are very hard builds a better understanding of yourself but it is the actions you take afterwards that determine how your life will play out.
My dude did not conduct an experiment. He had a sandbox and a bunch of toys that he was breaking. You can take his "experiment" and come up with as many conclusions as you'd like but how it was set up will just give you faulty results and shaky psychology
What no one is talking about is that human psychology changes over time. If you did the same experiment today it would be totally different. The prisoners would be like totally chill, and when the guards shout you just say "what do I care, I'm getting outta here in a week and there's nothing you can do about it bro, plus I'm getting paid LOL. Heck, solitary confinement is supposed to be torture, and these days youtubers go into these silent rooms and solitary confinement rooms voluntarily for a week and when they come out say it was no big deal. We have become more chilled, relaxed, resilient, passively tolerating and patiently waiting out, because of a higher level of awareness than the previous generation, in fact we should repeat it to prove this.
When your in jail. Knowing your headed to prison. You can't simulate that. Act it out.ha ha like life itself it can't be taught only experienced. What ever this candy role play calls itself. Not a trip to hell like no other.
And then we used that knowledge to reform prisons and society was thus improved.
I was fine with the experiment until he said you couldn't leave. Depriving people of their rights is where I draw the line. And yes I know that's how real prisons are, but that doesn't mean it's fine.
He should have been held accountable. It was no longer voluntary, he abused those students.
Great video, super high quality 👌
I love this it's inspiring, intriguing and entertaining
0:54 man was going through gamer's rage before gamer's rage even existed
My type of channel fr earned a sub
Your channel is so underrated!!!
Do the right thing, always. You’re never wrong for doing what is right. Even if/when it’s not the easy thing to do.
I love this experiment sooo much lol it’s like he’s figuratively holding up a mirror to the worlds view on prisons lol this is happening All over americas prisons especially back then and they question why he didn’t step in? First of all he’s a physiologist doing his job and made a groundbreaking discovery meanwhile the real prisons have these wardens doing the same not doing anything about the wrongdoings of the guards this was perfect
Cool story bro but it has been stated and critically talked about this experiment Soo many times about how flawed it is and how he influenced the guards to do such things when he kept saying he never did and lying about it .
@@myballsmoist1222and you don’t think guards are encouraged to be nasty to prisoners?
@@only1undrscore_442 the experiment wasn't about what humans can do when they are encouraged and forced to do it but what would they do if they had the power to do it .
The U.S has the worst prison system in the world. You do realize that don't you?
Or he was playing god.