The best thing about Pokémon Moon & Sun is the constant neutral smile on the face of the protagonist. Of all that sick unspeakable stuff that happens in this game he just doesn't fucking care.
Yeah, I mean, they got wormholed, saw their friend's mom, who they thought was a good guy, fuse with a Pokemon to become a monster, became the champion, saw a Solgaleo and Lunala LITERALLY MATE IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES, and they just stand there, smiling away... maybe it's burned onto their face after having so much traumatic stuff happen to them.
@@usermcskull4713 She's the one who says that Guzma likes Lusamine because she's the only adult who believes in him, so either no one in Team Skull is over 18 (ages are pretty funky in Pokémon, after all), or he thinks his friends are grunts "don't count".
elinfini Rated E mainly for the typical violence in a pokemon game. they got away with the rating still i think because the most "violent" part is Tapu Koko's entrance is involved knocking the Spearow out of the sky. the rest of the story was just dark and creepy - the music amplifies these moments perfectly - as is the case here.
Imagine the future remake, where in Ultra Space Lusamine starts battling you normally, using Nihilego as her opening pokémon with her regular Battle theme... But when you faint it, it cuts to a cutscene where Lusamine gets Furious for hurting her precious Nihilego, and THEN Fuses with it, and "Gigantamax" herself as she becomes a giant space Jellyfish (This music stats) that fights Alongside her remaining pokémon in a double battle format, with both herself and all her pokémon having 'Totem Auras' that boosts their stats, and you & Lillie (With Nebby) fight her together, side by side.
There’s a reason she doesn’t fight you directly! She didn’t fuse to become stronger, she fused to become more “beautiful”, so she doesn’t want to mess up her body
Not actually true, immediately after the battle she tries to kill you but sogaleo/lunala intervenes (that shows that even if she’s obsessed with beauty and is currently fused with a alien, she knows when to draw the line just like when extra nice characters in media know when somebodies too far gone)
Well I mean, Nebby, why did you have to save our lives from a raging insane jellyfish lady? I mean, totally uncalled for. She would have killed you. She wouldn't have fought your pokemon, she would have downright murdered you, and probably Lillie too.
no my friend that started in gen 3 XD just the gen 3 version was misguidedly destroying the world where as everyone beyond that was purposely trying to destroy or rule it
Cynthia: * Dresses all black * One of the nicest character you've ever met in a Pokemon game, who encourages you throughout your journey, but takes away all your confidence in her battle = Best Pokemon Champion Ever! * Her team (especially her Garchomp) will forever haunt you in your nightmares! Lusamine * Dresses all white * So despicably cruel, she makes Blue look like Shauna in terms of jerkassery = Best Pokemon villain ever! * Her psycho expressions and the fact that she *shared a body with a freaking mind poisoning jellyfish!* will forever haunt you in your nightmares!
AkuRokuShiFangirl Cynthia actually switched her garchomp into a crit ice beam for me so it died before It got to damage me at all first time in diamond ( I used an electric move then an ice move back to back and gen 4 ai loved switching in ground types the turn after you use An electric move ( or in some cases if you use it twice in a row) then second time I fought her togekiss obliterated it one on one ( dragon rush missed and ice beam one shot ) the third time I set up on spiritomb and one shot it with my own spiritomb who had plus 6 all stats. The fourth time I fought it it actually killed something on my team......... with giga impact. Then I killed it the turn after with a weavile ice punch. It was always her milotic that was an issue for me as due to gen 4’s bad ai and her garchomp’s horrible moveset it was laughably easy for me to kill. Then I started to use dry skin toxicroak as my fighting type and then she lost all issues as her milotic didn’t seem to understand why it’s water stab wasn’t killing my Pokémon.
May I give you: Cyrus best pokemon villain ever? *so unforgivably cold, just void of all emotion *I was actually scared of him when I first fought him *He captured the GODS OF SPACE AND TIME to create an entirely new universe for him to rule.
Iron Pan I would definitely say top two objectively is cyrus but weather he or ghesitis is better depends on if you want the character’s goals to be realistic with the power they try to get to achieve said goals and such. Cyrus wanted to remove emotion from humanity as he feels such things hold people back. That’s relatively tame for someone who is gaining the power to destroy the universe and shape it to his will and someone so insane wouldn’t be tame in the slightest. Granted there is something to be said about having the villain’s goal’s and methods easy to understand and if that is more important cyrus is better. However ghesitis is smarter and more realistic. While ghesitis doesn’t gain the ability to shape the universe their goals make perfect sense. Having brainwashed the hero chosen by one of the dragons it makes sense that people would give up their Pokémon if n said so by the masses. That would allow ghesitis and team plasma full control as they would be the only ones with Pokémon ( ghesitis could probably kill n afterwards to be honest as n is naive in the first games and could easily be caught off guard and killed and then ghesitis could claim the dragon for himself ( or at least the stone for it). This would pretty much grant ghesitis absolute power over the unova region. Ghesitis plans makes sense granted the power they gain access to. If you want the plans to be while not necessarily easy to understand but realistic then ghesitis is the better villain.
@@cupocolor6410 No offence, but... nah! More like: Hypocrite: Wants to destroy all emotions, and yet has a Pokemon that evolves through Happiness (At least one of Ghetsis's Pokemon knows Frustration) Idiot: Wants to archieve something with nothing but a Legendary, what took humanity millions of year of hard work, sacrifice and persistence to archieve. Weak and cliché backstory: He wants to reshape the world because he had neglectful parents. *sarcasm* Gee, I haven't heard that before! One of the four reasons why It's worth for me to wait for D/P remakes is to see if they can actually make him an actually interesting villain.
Do you realize that not only she's the first female villain, but she's the ONLY villain who got TWO themes in ONE game ? (N has two themes, but he's no villain)
The most difficult thing I’ve ever fucking dealt with in a Pokémon game. I somehow destroyed Cynthia first try. Same with Iris. But this… this maniac, gives me Vietnam flashbacks.
Pokémon trainer Nate honestly, I agree that Lusamine MADE ME WANT TO DRINK BLEACH! But how did you beat my 1st ever Champion, the HARDEST Champion, 1st try?
A lot of people complain that she never battles you as herself, but when you think about it that makes sense. Why would she want to risk injuring something as amazing as Nihilego?
I hope they keep the dark parts. They seem even darker against the rather colourful and cute backdrop of the Pokémon world. Lusamine genuinely creeped me out, but in an awesome way.
ghetsis in black and white 1: *angry illuminati bishop* ghetsis in black and white 2: *antichrist with a dragon* ghetsis in ultra sun/moon: *Illuminati ultraspace bishop* ghetsis in RR end-game of sinnoh remakes: *Fuses nihilego with hydragon* and uses gigantamax *ARCEUS DRUMS!!!*
With my luck my Clefable either uses splash, a move with a power of 35 or less or self-destruct on something normal-resistant. She's still a big old floof though
Clefable: Help me...i have seen some shit.... Clefable: Especially the fact my trainer is a friggin woman inside a jellyfish octopus And you are so correct when i first battled her i was like OH MY GOD HER POKEMON ARE SO MAD
You know... I think Guzma had a point when he said he learned TRUE fear while in Ultra Space... Nihilego is the most unassuming, yet dangerous 'Pokemon' the franchise has, or ever will see.
Nihilego has the special ability to artificially enhance the abilities and powers of ANYONE, by, basically, cooking their brains alive, and using them as a host. Just imagine, Arceus walking along, having a good old day, and then suddenly this thing pops up, controls it's mind, and turns it into something even Mega Rayquaza would fear. So, in conclusion, this Jellyfish is scary.
I remember how this battle felt... My heart was hammering. I was trembling. It felt like the battle with Ghetsis in Pokémon Black, but so, so different at the same time... Ghetsis is psychotic and deranged, Lusamine’s obsession with the Ultra Beasts got out of hand after her husband went missing. She’s still there, but Ghetsis is too far gone.
Probably because he threatened the protagonist's life, then tried to fulfill the threat, and fused the savior pokemon with the executioner pokemon. Both legendary pokemon.
Yeah, there's that. What I meant was that an actual battle with the Nihilego that's controlling her should initiate. So basically fighting Lusamine herself. None of her Pokemon.
This theme is what I call memorable. It has a deep, dark event connected to it. It's just the right mix of creepy and epic, never letting down. And most of all, it showed what happens when someone falls further off the deep end then even Ghetsis did, to the point where even her _Pokémon_ have been Nihilego'd. This... this is the Lusamine we got pre-Ultra. This is the Lusamine who played a large role. I don't care if room was needed for the URS and the various forms of Necrozma. The Mother Beast was a pivotal battle, an influential battle. The Mother Beast was Lusamine, affected by, _fused with_ Nihilego. But that means that the Lusamine from USUM had a stronger mind. Which is not what we have come to see in Lusamine. *And she never fought our Pokémon directly.*
Maybe that's why USUM turned out so different. In multiple theories about alternative timelines/realities, usually one big event causes a complete split in the timeline. The earliest thing I knew was weird was that her obsession with UBs weren't the same. So, here's what I think happened. In S/M, Lusamine was completely overtaken mentally by Nihilego, but manipulated her to open more Ultra Wormholes to escape and feed off others. In US/UM, however, she probably wasn't affected or resisted it, which lead to her finding the Recon Squad instead of Nihilego's world Ultra Deep Sea.
When I got to this part of the game, all I could think was: "Finally...FINALLY we get a female primary antagonist!" It was so good to finally have a change of pace, not only in the gender of the main villain, but the style in which the main villain was fought.
The aether foundation as a whole is not the main villain, just Lusamine. She literally employed team skull and Guzma to garner public attention so that she could do her terrible evil shit. Not everyone in aether was bad, even Wicke was opposed to Lusamine and Faba doing evil stuff but just because the entire organization isn’t evil doesn’t mean Lusamine isn’t the main antagonist.
@@mariavazquez6561 1) Necrozma was an Antagonist in USUM 2) The main villain was Rose (and a really bad one), Eternatus just came out of nowhere in the story
I take back everything I ever said about this game not being an anime. I mean, we're fucking fighting a woman fused with a jellyfish to create a tentacle monster. You can't get much more anime than that.
Well, when she tried to directly attack these children, she was one-shot by the Solgaleo/Lunala. It was really better for her to hover back, Totem-boost her Pokemon and let them do all the fighting for her.
Soniku98 this is the Pokemon World, everything is solved with a Pokemon Battle, she's a pretty hard boss too, if she was just a Pokemon, she'd be pretty easy and it'd be very anti climactic
To be fair, i think that's because she was using her new form to give her team their Totem enhancements. She basically acts as a side-buff support for her team who can't fight because...well...she's a support buffer.
I was pretty disappointed when the ultra ball materialized in her hand (tentacle? Claw? Whatever). Then, the clefable tanked just about everything, and I realized this battle would still be difficult.
The moment I saw that clefable, I spammed nasty plot, used a dire hit, and an x speed for good measure... one shot clefable, she sent in milotic, one shot crit with inferno overdrive :3
Star Warrior 64 worked out something about this. I think she was intending to use herself as her sixth Pokemon, but that's when Lillie calls Solgaleo/Lunala. We don't have a Pokemon out because we're not expecting her to do so.
Congratulations? Your Lusamine evolved into....ok...WHATTHEACTUALFUCK?! 0^o W-would yo-you l-like to g-g-give your newly evolved hell-spawn a nickname?
Lusamine in Sun and Moon (games): One of the most tragic villains ever, originally she just wanted to save and reunite with her husband but became mad when she got infected with Nihilego's toxins. She became a husk of her former self, *the old Lusamine, the misguided but caring mother of Lillie and Gladion was dead.* Lusamine in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon: she nice but do sime bad stuff, becuz she wanna stop evil rock man from space!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously I love Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, but they turned Lusamine from possibly the best villain of the entire series (if you don't count Guzma) into just a really lame red herring with very little personality.
@@YasEmisDaBus That's what I was thinking too! Maybe they could've incorporated that and the fight with necrozma ended up being an accidental antidote! To be obessed with Necrozma and the Ultra Beasts in order to get her husband and family back....
Can we talk about the anime ??? I mean, I know it's supposed to be for kids but still, they didn't had to turn one of the most interesting vilain of pokemon into a "Nice and caring mother who cares about her children EVEN when she gets infected by Nihilego, she's totally not like that in the game !! The anime is kinda boring for many reasons but this is the main one ( my opinion )
I feel like this music symbolizes perfectly lusamines decent into madness. the erratic notes of the piano is a clear indication in this. But you can also hear some female vocals come in as well as to symbolize some shred of humanity left within herself, but its trying to desperately escape.
TastyBrush I like to see it as them feeling such power for not only being the Mother Beast's Pokemon, but also for the Totem Boost. For example, you can see Clefable is also kind of smiling as if it was proud or bragging about it's power.
I see it as they're upset because maybe she mistreats them, as she only loves them for their 'beauty' she sees them as collictables, and probably treats them as such.
To think how far Pokémon has come. From the starting notes of Pallet Town in Gen 1, all the way to the Lusamine Final Battle. I mean, this music could close out the franchise.
So, I replayed this fight recently.... THAT DAMN CLEFABLE. IT LANDED *FOUR* METRONOME-TURNED-GULLIOTINES. Then, to rub salt in the wound, Frost Breath. Guaranteed crit, right through Goodra's X-Item setup. I had to pick her down with Druddigon, and thank GOD that Focus Band popped. She's torture. Not to mention, it feels like it comes right after her normal fight. Brutal. SM/USUM pulled out ALL the control rods towards the ends.
I have one of those without being an ultra beast but thats cause it's so ridiculously tanky but can dish a decent hit. and it has sleep powder\confusion immunity teeter and petal dance. I didn't realize for the longest time either but it out hp's almost anything I own including several legendries in their current state. it's at roughly a whopping 337hp I think? not to mention big root giga drain on top of all that. I was just glad that lusamine's lilligant didn't follow suit on how tanky it can be >. < cause that thing can be a literal nightmare spawn with luck if it's on your own team or bad luck on anyone elses
lilligant wasent that much of a problem, clefable (if I remember well) with moonlight that healed it every freaking time I made it go in the 20% was my biggest problem
"oh arceus, this is gonna be pretty hard battle, well, my pokemon are 5 levels higher then hers, so might not be that hard *me: sends out incinaroar*, *Lusamine: sends out Clefable* I'll use Acrobatics, sure, *The opposing clefable used metronome, it used Roar Of Time* OH SHI--"
TBH Lusamine reminds me of a drug addict. In the fact that she becomes obsessed and full blown relies on her drug, the Ultra Beasts, to the point where she begins to forsake her own family to get more. However, with all drug addicts they either hit their bottom or they die. Same can be seen here after you beat her the second time and she realizing that her children are what's truly important. When you look at it that way she is quite possibly the most realistic villain, aside from Guzma, in the series.
Sun and Moon, both original and Ultra will forever be one of the best Pokemon games I've ever played if I can't say the best 3D era pokemon game. Storywise they really pushed boundaries with this, let alone completely disregarded some tropes in the series like Gym Leaders and 'underground' criminal organizations. Coming off of X/Y, which has great lore but half-baked story- this was a gift from the gods.
I woke up my parents with how I reacted to her new form. Fortunately it was around the time they normally woke up, and in the end, isn't it better to wake up to a "WHAT THE SHIT?!?" instead of a "BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP"?
Lusamine is literally just an even more traumatizing version of the Malamar episode from the anime. Evil lady does evil stuff, good guy faces evil lady, evil lady is actually the minion and her Pokémon was actually controlling her all along. For realies tho Jellyfish thing bad and will haunt my dreams
I love how the piano from her original theme comes back (albeit distorted) at 0:49, almost like Lusamine calling out to the player to save her from herself, before being drowned out again at 1:05
@@invinciblemikey she literally doesn't deserve it, sorry, but even lillie and gladion know she was/is a good person, if they have empathy with her, I have empathy with her too.
Derick Soto to be fair, she was probably gonna afterwards (didnt want to get her "hands" dirty or something) but lunala being a God and all stopped her.
Derick Soto I mean Solgaleo/Lunala aren't just going to let her kill us. But probably thought we should try to stop her ourselves. And for once, this is a conflict that can actually be solved with a Pokémon battle, since her power was coming from a Pokémon we can fight with ours.
I would prefer if they made you fight her in her motherbeast form, and make it the first ever legit boss in pokemon: - no typing. - loads of health (app. 2000 hp, something that doesnt die in 2-3 hits) - unique moves that cant be used by pokemon. I have an idea for her moveset: Abduction: takes the pokemon your using temporarily and makes it fight in her place. Once beaten, it returns to you, fainted. (It would be used rarely, but a devastating impact on the fight. ) Type change: [ability] - gains a new typing every 4-5 turns, her color changes depending on it. - Summon: calls forth a weak nihilego to fight alongside it, making players become extra cautious and strategize turns. Using roar or whirlwind will cause the nihilego to be swept from battle. - enhance: (idk what to call it)- boosts a random stat sharply. The rest of the moves are offensive moves, befitting her appearence. And instead of 4 moves, she has 6-7. How's that for a pokemon boss? (Btw, I'm studying on being a game designer;) )
People say Lusamine never tries to attack by herself as an Ultra Beast, but not only is she powering her Pokémon up, she DOES attack, but Nebby hops in to save you.
Giratina 487 I noted that it got destroyed by my Lurantis' physical attacks, but laughed at my Espeon's special attacks. Its Metronome was a joke for me, it didn't use anything worthwhile.
What? This music sounds nothing like ANYTHING out of EarthBound. Though if you put Lusamine's boss form in EarthBound as a boss, no one would question it.
Wow... kinda feels like Gen 5. N was the first character to get two battle themes in one game, and Lusamine was the second. Ghetsis was the first to combine two living beings into one, and Lusamine was the second... granted, Ghetsis made two legendary pokemon into another, and Lusamine combined an ultra beast with herself. Ghetsis and Lusamine were horrible parents. N and Lillie were raised badly by their parents. It wasn't even USUM yet, and I already have a lot of nostalgia.
"UB-01. Code name: "Symboint." "Properly known as Nihilego" "There have been sightings reported of this beast in Alola's past." "Its most distinctive feature is parasitic capability." "When Nihilego latches on to a host, it does not manipulate its actions directly." "Rather it awakens the host's own capabilties and boosts them to an extreme extent in order to protect itself." "It injects the host with a sort of neurotoxin to achieve this effect." "This neurotoxin of Nihilego's is incredibly stimulating and inspires feelings of extreme excitement and a lack of inhibition in its host." "In other words, anything or anyone that a Nihilego latches on to will have its native skills forcibly activated to their fullest extent and will then act as it naturally does so."
That's children's stories compared to HAL's games. I'm... not sure how a mass of writhing, screaming faces that says vaguely suggestive and creepy quotes was deemed okay for kids. Also, Lusamine only really tries to kill Lillie.
Pokemon SoulSilver was my first Pokemon game. I was only 10 when I played it, and I never had a problem with Whitney's Miltank. I didn't see why her Miltank and Rollout became so infamous. Lusamine's Clefable, on the other hand... holy mother of Christ. Talk about a tank. It absorbed every hit like it was nothing. And every time I managed to put even a little damage on it, the fucker healed again. I'm pretty sure knocking the fluffy pink cunt out was one of the most satisfying things I've ever done in a video game. Hat's off to you, Clefable. You deserve all the hate Miltank has gotten and more.
She might be the only Bad guy that has fused with a Unknown pokemon in the entire franchise, Well at least she aint causing a mass genocide like Lysandre.
Actually, she IS causing mass destruction. She's summoning UB's all over Alola and basically starting an apocalypse. Worse than Lysandre/Cyrus in my opinion cause Lysandre and Cyrus wanted to destroy PASSIVELY. Their plan didn't have any sort of bloodshed into it. While if you really think about it, Lusamine's plan is pure dark. What she doesn't realize is the true power of the UB's. These things could KILL. Just imagine a Pheromosa bursting into your house and stomping on your family's bodies leaving a bloody masacre as you watch in despair hiding in safety slowly watching your entire family die in what may seem like hell itself. I know. It's a horrifying thing to imagine what could've happened if you weren't there to save the day with your smiley looking face.
So we have a psychotic sociopath who will stop at nothing to be with an alien being, even going so far as to become a monster while doing so, because of an obsession with said beast? Lusamine is Pokemon's Sephiroth
she's not so much a psychopath as she is a straight up drug addict she snorted jellyfish once too often and got addicted, and decided she had to go to the jellyfish dimension unfortunately, in ultra space, drugs snort YOU
When i saw this transformation, there was only one thing I could think of... Do you know what I was thinking? "WHAT THE- HOW INSANE ARE YOU, LUSAMINE?!" ...then was tragically disappointed that we were fighting a buffed version of her earlier team rather than Lusamine directly.
***** Your original comment was "This is going to be a dark game with a lot of bright colors" I see nothing about it being cutesy or hiding how dark it is
I absolutely love how Nihilego was, for all intents and purposes the one behind everything. This marks the very first time in the main series games where a Pokemon actually is the primary antagonist. That said, I still wish you could fight the Nihilego/Lusamine itself.
I was honestly disappointed that I wasn't actually directly fighting HER, but was instead fighting her Pokemon; like, she'd become this super-powerful being, yet her power served to only buff her own Pokemon. Just a nitpick.
Its pretty annoying how we get to catch Solgaleo/Lunala AFTER beating Lusamine here Would have preferred fighting her with Lunala, Nebby basically facing off against her Would feel fitting
In terms of scenario, this is one of the best fights in pokemon history, and the music backs up this maddening battle perfectly. I found the fight itself slightly easy, but that may just have been because my selection of pokemon.
JungleB it was actually a pretty tense fight for me. it took all my pokemon with fighting type attacks to take down bewear and I had to use zpower to stop clefable's spam moonlight. Greninja and Decidueye took care of the rest though.
Nihilego wasn't supposed to look like Lillie.
Lillie was dressed to look like Nihilego.
Holy fuck. That just blew my mind.
*My life has been a lie*
Benjamim Carvalho XD
I wish she could have said that her mother made her dress like nihilego.
It all makes sense now.
The best thing about Pokémon Moon & Sun is the constant neutral smile on the face of the protagonist. Of all that sick unspeakable stuff that happens in this game he just doesn't fucking care.
Because some pokemon trainers are comical. Think of spider man.
:)
The protagonist is more psychotic then every single character in the franchise.
At least they always have the right spirit.
Yeah, I mean, they got wormholed, saw their friend's mom, who they thought was a good guy, fuse with a Pokemon to become a monster, became the champion, saw a Solgaleo and Lunala LITERALLY MATE IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES, and they just stand there, smiling away... maybe it's burned onto their face after having so much traumatic stuff happen to them.
Guzma : I really like Lusamine, she's the only adult who ever believed in me.
Lusamine : *turns into Jellyfish monster*
Guzma : nvm
guzma : you want this big ass roly poly in your team?
Wait a second, didn't Plumeria believe in him?
@@usermcskull4713 She's the one who says that Guzma likes Lusamine because she's the only adult who believes in him, so either no one in Team Skull is over 18 (ages are pretty funky in Pokémon, after all), or he thinks his friends are grunts "don't count".
@@kitkatboard wait plumeria's a minor?
@@usermcskull4713 I had a stroke and laugh at this
BREAKING NEWS
MOTHER DESERTS DAUGHTER TO LIVE WITH ALIEN JELLYFISHES BUT TURNS INTO ONE OF THEM
luc4sBR2320 lmfao
Underrated.
I have hentai PTSD godammit
GD_The Nine_Tails wait wat
MORE AT 7
That Clefable...I was like, wait aren't they usually smiling? oh shit.
Winter xx I was creeped out by that when I saw it too
tell me about i was like oh shit
Winter xx I couldn't stop laughing when I saw it for like a minute, it looks incredibly dumb to me
to me it looked like the clefable was all "i am so done with this shit, just knock me out already"
I Said No Mission accomplished.
It's _amazing_ how far you can push things with just an E rating.
i know right?? they even just kept throwing around death related stuff like it was nbd!! like shit was pretty dark for a Pokemon game
This is kind of on the level of Melissa/Eve (PE1) and JENOVA (FF7), it's crazy.
This game had so many more Mature Themes (sexual and other) going on than the last games that it's insane. I'm actually really surprised.
elinfini Rated E mainly for the typical violence in a pokemon game. they got away with the rating still i think because the most "violent" part is Tapu Koko's entrance is involved knocking the Spearow out of the sky. the rest of the story was just dark and creepy - the music amplifies these moments perfectly - as is the case here.
+Zero 10.12 wait can you tell us the sexual and other parts?
“AHA! IVE FUSED WITH THIS MONSTER FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION TO BECOME AN ALL POWERFUL BEING!
NOW FIGHT MY POKEMON INSTEAD OF ME!”
Imagine the future remake, where in Ultra Space Lusamine starts battling you normally, using Nihilego as her opening pokémon with her regular Battle theme...
But when you faint it, it cuts to a cutscene where Lusamine gets Furious for hurting her precious Nihilego, and THEN Fuses with it, and "Gigantamax" herself as she becomes a giant space Jellyfish (This music stats) that fights Alongside her remaining pokémon in a double battle format, with both herself and all her pokémon having 'Totem Auras' that boosts their stats, and you & Lillie (With Nebby) fight her together, side by side.
No one going to acknowledge she pays you and immediately after she trys to kill you again
I was legit pissed about that. I was hoping for a badass battle with her and I just got her pokemon
Dahxelb Just reading your comment gave me chills, you need to be a writer on a future Pokemon game.
If they made her a fightable pokemon they'd have to give her a Pokedex description. Think about that for a second.
There’s a reason she doesn’t fight you directly! She didn’t fuse to become stronger, she fused to become more “beautiful”, so she doesn’t want to mess up her body
huh that's actually really interesting
If by beauty you mean control and power, then guilty as charged.
Not actually true, immediately after the battle she tries to kill you but sogaleo/lunala intervenes (that shows that even if she’s obsessed with beauty and is currently fused with a alien, she knows when to draw the line just like when extra nice characters in media know when somebodies too far gone)
@@ikoniful3984 yeah fair, but thats only after she starts taking you seriously
nah the devs were just lazy
I liked how all her Pokemon were like
>:/
Pizzaman all but bewear
they were all like L:< for me
>:3
angery
Angry Clefairy looked both stupid and terrifying
I legit thought that the empty space in her party was going to be when SHE fought you too, after you defeated all of her Pokemon
I have think the same the first time and I was like " OH SHIT NONONONONO DON'T DO IT"
Well I mean, Nebby, why did you have to save our lives from a raging insane jellyfish lady? I mean, totally uncalled for. She would have killed you. She wouldn't have fought your pokemon, she would have downright murdered you, and probably Lillie too.
She TRIES to, but the legendary STOMPS her!
That would have been pretty cool! But also horrifying.
and then nebby had to ruin the fun
*becomes Ultra Beast*
*still uses Pokemon to fight you*
Genius.
Actually is really a genius. If she battled for herself, she could be captured from the player XD
Randor Zacaris probably not because pokeballs have no affect on ultrabeasts...the can only be caught with a beast ball
But she's half-human
ShadowTheWolf AJ no she isnt
The fused version is half-human because one part is ub and one part is a human..
c'mon GameFreak, how are you gonna have a villain BECOME a pokemon and then not fight the player
What if we could catch her
@@Xman34washere thats called exploiting slave labor
Yeah, Hal Laboratory would've in a Kirby game.
Because it's Pokemon, that's it XD
That would kill her, because after the fight she faints. Also, imagine burn marks, thousands of scratches, and ice all over her.
"If you're not beautiful enough to be worthy of my love, then I don't NEED you!"
Kazuki Asato That's terrible.
Kazuki Asato "That's terrible mother!"
"You're terrible!"
"I should have stayed with dad, fuck y'all".
But Dad be dead though
"Y'all are stupid"
Pokemon back in 90's and early 2000: Let's steal Pokemon and become rich!
Pokemon since Gen IV: LET'S DESTROY THE FUCKING WORLD!
Gen III villains were already trying to destroy the world, they were just too retarded to realize that.
true af. gen 4 was really the last gen
+M nah pokemon snap was the last gen
The God of Soap, Kekcario that one even wasn't a real pokemon game bro lmao
no my friend that started in gen 3 XD just the gen 3 version was misguidedly destroying the world where as everyone beyond that was purposely trying to destroy or rule it
I still can't get over her loving a *MONSTER* over her own Daughter.
It was from the nerotoxins and such the monster was putting into her.
Oh and don't forget her son
Brandon Bayot Gladion's too good for her.
***** I'm pretty sure the Husband is alive though.
Boarbaque Whoah man, is that canon?
Cynthia:
* Dresses all black
* One of the nicest character you've ever met in a Pokemon game, who encourages you throughout your journey, but takes away all your confidence in her battle = Best Pokemon Champion Ever!
* Her team (especially her Garchomp) will forever haunt you in your nightmares!
Lusamine
* Dresses all white
* So despicably cruel, she makes Blue look like Shauna in terms of jerkassery = Best Pokemon villain ever!
* Her psycho expressions and the fact that she *shared a body with a freaking mind poisoning jellyfish!* will forever haunt you in your nightmares!
AkuRokuShiFangirl Cynthia actually switched her garchomp into a crit ice beam for me so it died before It got to damage me at all first time in diamond ( I used an electric move then an ice move back to back and gen 4 ai loved switching in ground types the turn after you use An electric move ( or in some cases if you use it twice in a row) then second time I fought her togekiss obliterated it one on one ( dragon rush missed and ice beam one shot ) the third time I set up on spiritomb and one shot it with my own spiritomb who had plus 6 all stats. The fourth time I fought it it actually killed something on my team......... with giga impact. Then I killed it the turn after with a weavile ice punch. It was always her milotic that was an issue for me as due to gen 4’s bad ai and her garchomp’s horrible moveset it was laughably easy for me to kill. Then I started to use dry skin toxicroak as my fighting type and then she lost all issues as her milotic didn’t seem to understand why it’s water stab wasn’t killing my Pokémon.
May I give you: Cyrus best pokemon villain ever?
*so unforgivably cold, just void of all emotion
*I was actually scared of him when I first fought him
*He captured the GODS OF SPACE AND TIME to create an entirely new universe for him to rule.
Iron Pan I would definitely say top two objectively is cyrus but weather he or ghesitis is better depends on if you want the character’s goals to be realistic with the power they try to get to achieve said goals and such. Cyrus wanted to remove emotion from humanity as he feels such things hold people back. That’s relatively tame for someone who is gaining the power to destroy the universe and shape it to his will and someone so insane wouldn’t be tame in the slightest. Granted there is something to be said about having the villain’s goal’s and methods easy to understand and if that is more important cyrus is better. However ghesitis is smarter and more realistic. While ghesitis doesn’t gain the ability to shape the universe their goals make perfect sense. Having brainwashed the hero chosen by one of the dragons it makes sense that people would give up their Pokémon if n said so by the masses. That would allow ghesitis and team plasma full control as they would be the only ones with Pokémon ( ghesitis could probably kill n afterwards to be honest as n is naive in the first games and could easily be caught off guard and killed and then ghesitis could claim the dragon for himself ( or at least the stone for it). This would pretty much grant ghesitis absolute power over the unova region. Ghesitis plans makes sense granted the power they gain access to. If you want the plans to be while not necessarily easy to understand but realistic then ghesitis is the better villain.
Cynthia and Lusamine are two sides of the same coin, it seems...
@@cupocolor6410 No offence, but... nah! More like:
Hypocrite: Wants to destroy all emotions, and yet has a Pokemon that evolves through Happiness (At least one of Ghetsis's Pokemon knows Frustration)
Idiot: Wants to archieve something with nothing but a Legendary, what took humanity millions of year of hard work, sacrifice and persistence to archieve.
Weak and cliché backstory: He wants to reshape the world because he had neglectful parents. *sarcasm* Gee, I haven't heard that before!
One of the four reasons why It's worth for me to wait for D/P remakes is to see if they can actually make him an actually interesting villain.
Do you realize that not only she's the first female villain, but she's the ONLY villain who got TWO themes in ONE game ? (N has two themes, but he's no villain)
N in BW
Ivanandro AB N technically wasn't the main villain, he wasn't even a "villain"
N was the main villain in the *first* Black and White game. In the second one he pretty much disappeared from team plasma.
The Discussion Zone Nah, Ghetsis was and will always be the "main villain" of the two series, N was just an antagonist. I'm talking evil material here
and she FUCKING DIED
Dear god Lusamine, have a Snickers.
You're not you when you're hungry.
that's right.
she's hangry
MINR, Corporations I think that Snickers will make it worse.
MINR, Corporations This is PERFECT
+H.Baugher Studioz I believe you are wrong.
Snickers satisfies everyone, even that satanic... beauty... lady... thing.
I'll tell you what'll satisfy my anger against Lusamine:
*Her brutal death to ANYTHING!!!*
this game takes "hell has no fury like a woman scorned" to a new level
The most difficult thing I’ve ever fucking dealt with in a Pokémon game. I somehow destroyed Cynthia first try. Same with Iris. But this… this maniac, gives me Vietnam flashbacks.
Pokémon trainer Nate honestly, I agree that Lusamine MADE ME WANT TO DRINK BLEACH! But how did you beat my 1st ever Champion, the HARDEST Champion, 1st try?
Indeed it does
@@nobleshad Weavile
@@hellothere4892 WhaThe..?
Everyone else in Lusamine's team: *>:(*
Lusamine's Bewear: *:I*
Her bewear was actually tough
@@BvckGames it was the goddamn clefable
Matteo Dona My Pokémon were 10 levels passed her team plus, I had an salazzle
My toucannon one hitted it lol
Lusamine's Clefable: *:D*
A lot of people complain that she never battles you as herself, but when you think about it that makes sense.
Why would she want to risk injuring something as amazing as Nihilego?
Oh shit
OHHHHHH
then whats the point of her fusing on nihilego anyway
@@dbpedia4973 infinite Z move spam
DbIsCool to make her Pokémon stronger so they can protect The UB and it’s host.
I never thought there could be a more chilling villain than Ghetsis. Boy, was I wrong. The plot in this generation was top-notch.
I really hope Game Freak keeps this up. I had high hopes for Lysandre because of Ghetsis and I ended up being disappointed.
I hope they keep the dark parts. They seem even darker against the rather colourful and cute backdrop of the Pokémon world. Lusamine genuinely creeped me out, but in an awesome way.
@@Itri_Vega yeah
Ghetsis is still the best
ghetsis in black and white 1: *angry illuminati bishop*
ghetsis in black and white 2: *antichrist with a dragon*
ghetsis in ultra sun/moon: *Illuminati ultraspace bishop*
ghetsis in RR end-game of sinnoh remakes:
*Fuses nihilego with hydragon* and uses gigantamax
*ARCEUS DRUMS!!!*
Clefable used Metronome!
Wagging a finger let it use *ROAR OF TIME!*
Salazzle fainted!
...WELL SCREW ME THEN!
oh god i thought that was just me
Clefable got Growl to me :)
With my luck my Clefable either uses splash, a move with a power of 35 or less or self-destruct on something normal-resistant.
She's still a big old floof though
Tell me how a normal Pokemon can manipulate time.
PokéMagic
Now imagine fighting this monstrosity with Legends Arceus Logic with the nobles and new battle system. That'd be dope.
like imagine dodging around attacks to throw something at her to split her and niheligo while also trying to battle her with your own pokemon
@@Beeschurgers that would be SICK
@@GamingRedBirb especially if she did something like electrode and summoned niheligo to attack you
@@Beeschurgers ye
I would do that battle! Would have been epic
oshit it's a shiny Lusamine
*takes out 30 ultra balls, magearna with false swipe, ribombee with stun spore*
Rose Quen *oshit it has take down*
Cringe Fest WELL THEN, *saves before battle and gets a quick ball*
Rose Quen oh no you didnt save cause how the fuck do you predict a shiny
"I got a master ball with your name on it!"
I think what unsettled me most was...How her Pokemon actually changed emotions...That Clefable had seen some shit.
Clefable: Help me...i have seen some shit....
Clefable: Especially the fact my trainer is a friggin woman inside a jellyfish octopus
And you are so correct when i first battled her i was like OH MY GOD HER POKEMON ARE SO MAD
@@despairdoodles2254 Mismagius doesn't seem like mad for me, either just ">:}" - smiling mischeviously.
You know...
I think Guzma had a point when he said he learned TRUE fear while in Ultra Space...
Nihilego is the most unassuming, yet dangerous 'Pokemon' the franchise has, or ever will see.
IM KILLING THIS BEAST RIGHT HERE! RIGHT NOW! THREE BEASTS!
Unregistered Regi Question.: What makes the Nihilego more dangerous than other Ultra Beast? Arent the other kinds deadly too?
Nihilego has the special ability to artificially enhance the abilities and powers of ANYONE, by, basically, cooking their brains alive, and using them as a host.
Just imagine, Arceus walking along, having a good old day, and then suddenly this thing pops up, controls it's mind, and turns it into something even Mega Rayquaza would fear.
So, in conclusion, this Jellyfish is scary.
Oh i see, stay away from the jelly fish
Unregistered Regi but wouldn't Arceus fuck Nihilego up or erase it from existence
I remember how this battle felt... My heart was hammering. I was trembling. It felt like the battle with Ghetsis in Pokémon Black, but so, so different at the same time...
Ghetsis is psychotic and deranged, Lusamine’s obsession with the Ultra Beasts got out of hand after her husband went missing. She’s still there, but Ghetsis is too far gone.
Lusamine is literally just a female Ghetsis.
While Ghetsis was genuinely insane, at least Lusamine had an excuse for being like that. She was under the influence of Nihilego.
Ghetsis is the scarier villain even though Lusamine fused with a alien
Probably because he threatened the protagonist's life, then tried to fulfill the threat, and fused the savior pokemon with the executioner pokemon. Both legendary pokemon.
@@moistheathen148 ghetsis was willing to actually kill you and almost did without N’s intervention he really is the most evil Pokémon character
I love how all her Pokemon are not only stat boosted but also look twisted, like her smirking Clefable.
Strangely, Bewear's the only one of her Pokemon that looks the same...
bewear is fucked up eny way
spawnshell1 lol true! But it's a cute bear !
Crap, I didn't notice that. What do the rest of her pokemon look like?
Laugh136
Their faces are all like >:)
*Goes to the Ultra Beasts' Dimension and sees a bunch of Jellyfish* Me: JELLYFISHING JELLYFISHING JELLYFISHING JELLYFISHING JELLYFISHING JELLYFISHING
y'all are stupid
Pedders -Guzma 2016
Well played. XD
What if I tell ya they are not even water types
(sees Lusamine transformed) I'm gonna need a bigger net...
After defeating her team, she should have gone completely off the deep end, and attacked you herself. While merged with Nihilego of course.
It would be cool...catching her..?
Butter Popcorn No, that's really messed up
Reshiramax Send her to the previous gens and get a missingo. Who wouldn't want that?
Yeah, there's that. What I meant was that an actual battle with the Nihilego that's controlling her should initiate. So basically fighting Lusamine herself. None of her Pokemon.
Mining Bedrock Yeah,true.
This theme is what I call memorable. It has a deep, dark event connected to it. It's just the right mix of creepy and epic, never letting down. And most of all, it showed what happens when someone falls further off the deep end then even Ghetsis did, to the point where even her _Pokémon_ have been Nihilego'd. This... this is the Lusamine we got pre-Ultra. This is the Lusamine who played a large role. I don't care if room was needed for the URS and the various forms of Necrozma. The Mother Beast was a pivotal battle, an influential battle. The Mother Beast was Lusamine, affected by, _fused with_ Nihilego. But that means that the Lusamine from USUM had a stronger mind. Which is not what we have come to see in Lusamine.
*And she never fought our Pokémon directly.*
Maybe that's why USUM turned out so different. In multiple theories about alternative timelines/realities, usually one big event causes a complete split in the timeline. The earliest thing I knew was weird was that her obsession with UBs weren't the same.
So, here's what I think happened. In S/M, Lusamine was completely overtaken mentally by Nihilego, but manipulated her to open more Ultra Wormholes to escape and feed off others. In US/UM, however, she probably wasn't affected or resisted it, which lead to her finding the Recon Squad instead of Nihilego's world Ultra Deep Sea.
When I got to this part of the game, all I could think was:
"Finally...FINALLY we get a female primary antagonist!"
It was so good to finally have a change of pace, not only in the gender of the main villain, but the style in which the main villain was fought.
She’s not a primary antagonist. There was just some corruption within the Aether Foundation, but they’re aren’t the main villains.
@@sloanewalker42 You're mistaken. Do you think Team Skull are the real villains? Really? The dorks who go to Nanu if they feel bad about something?
Yeah like in pokemon sword and shield we get an actual literal pokemon antagonist which is a evil legend called Eternatus aka The Darkest Day.
The aether foundation as a whole is not the main villain, just Lusamine. She literally employed team skull and Guzma to garner public attention so that she could do her terrible evil shit. Not everyone in aether was bad, even Wicke was opposed to Lusamine and Faba doing evil stuff but just because the entire organization isn’t evil doesn’t mean Lusamine isn’t the main antagonist.
@@mariavazquez6561 1) Necrozma was an Antagonist in USUM
2) The main villain was Rose (and a really bad one), Eternatus just came out of nowhere in the story
I take back everything I ever said about this game not being an anime. I mean, we're fucking fighting a woman fused with a jellyfish to create a tentacle monster. You can't get much more anime than that.
I wonder how the Pokemon anime will handle this part.
The new Kill la Kill anime is looking great!
Same here.
That said, I can assume that by the time we get there, *it won't be pretty*.
Lusimine in general is going to be tough for the anime. She's a cruel, abusive mother with disregard for everything.
James Cretchley And she's turned on by jellyfish...
Someone please keep this woman off of DeviantArt forever...
*Lilly:*"...I need my mommy!"
*Lusamine:*"I AM your mommy!"
Lilly: No, no you are not
Literally the whole plot of the Ultra Space rescue.
*Brilliant.*
“Giant beast looks like it could kill you” *Throws out tiny pokeball from its massive arms*
Not sure how it got in the hand tbh. Telekinesis?
You know you're boned when a goddamn Clefable looks pissed off.
Lusamine did things that in the scale of 1 to wtf can go from wtf and beyond
"To the Bloody Hell, and beyond!"
TheGhostgodzilla She is poisoned from Nihilego(UB-01) so she doesn't know that she do the worst think what she can do😏😉
To Satan, and all forces of evil!
I thought the other evil team leaders were insane. But this is just crazy! :0
Is...is she as bad or worse than GHETSIS
Generation 7 makes a darker turn to Pokemon...
The Plushy Creeper All the other antagonists were cupcakes compared to Lusamine.
Ghetsis is ruthless. She's BATSHIT CRAZY
Kizel I legit forgot Ghestis
Mom's and Dads: are these pokemon games for kids
GameFreak: Yes but actually no.
Ghost well yeah
@@Spring_312 Well no.
WeLl pRehAps
@@_V.Va_ However, I disagree.
p e r h a p s
Gamefreak: What's that? A lot of you really want to see people fuse with their Pokemon in the games? Well, here you go! Enjoy the nightmares!
it reminded me of the pokemon burst manga
can we call ultra beast pokemon anymore?
Xxswag MeeMsterxX
They're Pokemon from a separate dimension. They can be caught, trained, and registered in the Pokedex like any other Pokemon can.
i know it whas a joke
and i think you cant catch "motherbeast"
I think they handled it very well as a story plot, would have been horrible if everyone was able to do it but for boss battle situations it's great !
That moment when my Pikachu used Nasty Plot 3x and her Clefable used Cosmik Power 4x and Metronome (Power Swap)
*hello darkness my old friend*
I am so sorry man...
rip
tommywalkie *cosmic power
Learn to spell please.
I love it when a person with a roblox profile picture attacks people online for having bad spelling.
@@Ben-wu3or says the one with hair on pfp
turns into chuthulu
decides to use pokemon to fight children
LOGIC
Kind of hoping we got to actually fight her when I saw her transform
Well, when she tried to directly attack these children, she was one-shot by the Solgaleo/Lunala. It was really better for her to hover back, Totem-boost her Pokemon and let them do all the fighting for her.
She wanted to take out your Pokemon first.
*An animation*
UA-cam: Not for kids
*This horrifying theme*
UA-cam: *For* kids
if it was there would be no comment section here
yes i know its a joke
And that reason why you not your kid watching you tube
Fuses with an Ultra Beast.
Still battles you using Pokemon.....
rkb 1723 still the fact that she fuses with it to challenge you to a pokemon battle is kinda dumb
Soniku98 this is the Pokemon World, everything is solved with a Pokemon Battle, she's a pretty hard boss too, if she was just a Pokemon, she'd be pretty easy and it'd be very anti climactic
PikaPlayzHD Just have it be like that Brycenman thing and her be her own final Pokémon.
To be fair, i think that's because she was using her new form to give her team their Totem enhancements. She basically acts as a side-buff support for her team who can't fight because...well...she's a support buffer.
I can't be the only who thought they would fight Lusamine herself and not just her Pokémon.
Star Warrior 64 I would've loved it if she was an opponent that we couldn't catch and had over powered stats
I was pretty disappointed when the ultra ball materialized in her hand (tentacle? Claw? Whatever). Then, the clefable tanked just about everything, and I realized this battle would still be difficult.
Star Warrior 64 lmaoooo me too, I was so terrified like "how the fuck am I gonna beat this thing..."
The moment I saw that clefable, I spammed nasty plot, used a dire hit, and an x speed for good measure... one shot clefable, she sent in milotic, one shot crit with inferno overdrive :3
Star Warrior 64 worked out something about this.
I think she was intending to use herself as her sixth Pokemon, but that's when Lillie calls Solgaleo/Lunala. We don't have a Pokemon out because we're not expecting her to do so.
Lillie: "Sun/Moon! We have to do something before it's too late!"
Sun/Moon: (0u0)
I don't have the game yet
And i've spolied it listening to *A SINGLE THEME*
worth buying
Totally.
you fucking dumbass
Did you buy the game yet?
what an idiot
Congratulations? Your Lusamine evolved into....ok...WHATTHEACTUALFUCK?! 0^o W-would yo-you l-like to g-g-give your newly evolved hell-spawn a nickname?
um
um
Type: Null??
Void? Mu? AntiMatter?? Aion...?
ShadowSkyX OwTheEdge?
yes, i'd like to give it a nickname: save me
nickname: kill......me...
Ghost of Hentai Past.
And here I thought Lysandre was the craziest Pokemon villain they'd make...
Everyone thought Cyrus, Ghetsis, or Lysandre was the psycho villain... Lusamine just topped them all! I like her character though...
Makes me wonder what they'll think up for Gen 8...
Still, I personally don't think anyone will top Giovanni...
@@annettestobb2847 Bruh, lame villain for lame protagonist, yeah .
the REAL pokéhuman. Take that DeviantArt.
you mean Pokemorph? cause that’s what the fans call it! also, Pokemon has done the pokemorph thing back in 2011 with ReBurst
Clefable used Metronome!
Metronome let foe Clefable use Splash!
see, the mighty power of the motherbeast?
Clefable used Metronome!
Metronome let the foe Clefable use SelfDestruct!
The foe Clefable fainted!
"well that was easy"
Don't underestimate metronome.........that clefable hit me with JUDGEMENT
Papyrus The Great, it killed my fearow ;-;
Salt Machine Clefable use metronome.
Foe clefable use spacial render.
True story.
Clefable used Metronome!
Metronome let foe Clefable use Momento!
Me:PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT LOL DED REKTED BANG BANG RKOED
"It's Just a Phase, Daugter!!"
Lusamine in Sun and Moon (games): One of the most tragic villains ever, originally she just wanted to save and reunite with her husband but became mad when she got infected with Nihilego's toxins. She became a husk of her former self, *the old Lusamine, the misguided but caring mother of Lillie and Gladion was dead.*
Lusamine in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon: she nice but do sime bad stuff, becuz she wanna stop evil rock man from space!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously I love Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, but they turned Lusamine from possibly the best villain of the entire series (if you don't count Guzma) into just a really lame red herring with very little personality.
Completely Agreed
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 well, atleast she and Lillie got to stay in post-game. I call that a win.
I think that Ultra Lusamine was also infected by Nihilego, it just affected her differently and made Necrozma her focus.
@@YasEmisDaBus That's what I was thinking too! Maybe they could've incorporated that and the fight with necrozma ended up being an accidental antidote! To be obessed with Necrozma and the Ultra Beasts in order to get her husband and family back....
Can we talk about the anime ??? I mean, I know it's supposed to be for kids but still, they didn't had to turn one of the most interesting vilain of pokemon into a "Nice and caring mother who cares about her children EVEN when she gets infected by Nihilego, she's totally not like that in the game !! The anime is kinda boring for many reasons but this is the main one ( my opinion )
"Why won't you die!"
"Ultra Beasts, son!"
When we said that we want a darker plot we didn't expect to be this dark.
mind if i ask how dark is it
More like Ragyo Kiryuin on Ultra Beasts instead of Life Fibers.
SOMEONE GETS KILLED BY AN ULTRA BEAST (offscreen)
Literally darker than the abyss!
I feel like this music symbolizes perfectly lusamines decent into madness. the erratic notes of the piano is a clear indication in this. But you can also hear some female vocals come in as well as to symbolize some shred of humanity left within herself, but its trying to desperately escape.
the fact that her pokémon had halfopened eyes as if they were posessed
D:
They are actually just angry like all totem pokemon or pokemon doing z move.
TastyBrush I like to see it as them feeling such power for not only being the Mother Beast's Pokemon, but also for the Totem Boost. For example, you can see Clefable is also kind of smiling as if it was proud or bragging about it's power.
Except for that fucking psychopathic Bewear
That Bewear's defense is off the charts, it took me three minutes with my Decidueye to beat that thing. Aura Bewear equals infinite defense.
I see it as they're upset because maybe she mistreats them, as she only loves them for their 'beauty' she sees them as collictables, and probably treats them as such.
I missed hearing this in USUM. But damm Necrozma has a good theme.
A forgetable theme, I can't remember it.
@@matthewbraith0411 necrozma's? forgettable? its one of the most viewed pokemon themes...
Matthewbraith 0 If you don’t remember it you either never heard it or had your volume down
@@matthewbraith0411 seems you forgot your grammar too
Creepy Space Vibe? Check.
Organ? Check.
Piano? Check.
Ominous Choir? Check.
Amazing villain theme.
I will say that Lusamine is pretty fine for 40 years old.
Hau agrees with you.
+Mr Madness *Over 40😅
You don’t know a lot of cougars do you?
MILF material right there...plus her husband isn't at home
Wonder how many beauty products she uses?
To think how far Pokémon has come. From the starting notes of Pallet Town in Gen 1, all the way to the Lusamine Final Battle. I mean, this music could close out the franchise.
Sword and Shield: are we a joke to u
@@Sick_in_love yes!
@@Sick_in_love absolutely
sun and moon should have ended even if i love legends arceus
it was a perfect way to cap off the franchise. But you know CAPITALISM.
So, I replayed this fight recently.... THAT DAMN CLEFABLE. IT LANDED *FOUR* METRONOME-TURNED-GULLIOTINES. Then, to rub salt in the wound, Frost Breath. Guaranteed crit, right through Goodra's X-Item setup. I had to pick her down with Druddigon, and thank GOD that Focus Band popped.
She's torture. Not to mention, it feels like it comes right after her normal fight. Brutal. SM/USUM pulled out ALL the control rods towards the ends.
It got sheer cold twice when I was down to my last 2 mons
I just used Alolan Muk with Gunk Shot
haha Metagross goes meteor mashing
for me the clefable blew up
When a lilligant manages to sweep your entire team
You too? Damn that thing is strong
That's what happens when Teeter Dance bullshit RNG + STAB Petal Dance and Own Tempo are combined.
I have one of those without being an ultra beast but thats cause it's so ridiculously tanky but can dish a decent hit. and it has sleep powder\confusion immunity teeter and petal dance. I didn't realize for the longest time either but it out hp's almost anything I own including several legendries in their current state. it's at roughly a whopping 337hp I think? not to mention big root giga drain on top of all that. I was just glad that lusamine's lilligant didn't follow suit on how tanky it can be >. < cause that thing can be a literal nightmare spawn with luck if it's on your own team or bad luck on anyone elses
lilligant wasent that much of a problem, clefable (if I remember well) with moonlight that healed it every freaking time I made it go in the 20% was my biggest problem
Clefable was not problem for me, neither was Liligant.
Lusamine, for being the first female main antagonist in the whole pokemon series, she's the most fucked up one.
hmmmmmmmm, what could that mean?
god dammit I told myself I wouldn't spoil myself.
I can't resist
Get in my van and I'll tell you more
I feel u man :(
Same
+n00dle Same... ;-;
n00dle same. I'm here saying "well fuck it. It's only the music. How bad can it be?"
The aura-induced Clefable single handedly sweeped my team.
Yes, single handedly.
Just seeing the beware one shot my incineroar made me nervous
"oh arceus, this is gonna be pretty hard battle, well, my pokemon are 5 levels higher then hers, so might not be that hard *me: sends out incinaroar*, *Lusamine: sends out Clefable* I'll use Acrobatics, sure, *The opposing clefable used metronome, it used Roar Of Time* OH SHI--"
My team: *exists*
Clefable getting Dragon Ascent, Judgement, and Oblivion Wing: I’m about the end this mans whole career
Good thing my metagross took it out before it could do anything
Ah Judgement
A classical
Oh you guys didn’t have it use spacial Rend repeatedly sweeping your team like it’s a broom and you are dirt?
My Team got rekt by the god damn Clefable 5 times, maybe more. Hardest boss in Sun and Moon.
Thankfully, after I beat the Beware, wasn't too hard.
arceus gets angry
I like how dark Pokemon seems to be getting
Same
TBH Lusamine reminds me of a drug addict. In the fact that she becomes obsessed and full blown relies on her drug, the Ultra Beasts, to the point where she begins to forsake her own family to get more. However, with all drug addicts they either hit their bottom or they die. Same can be seen here after you beat her the second time and she realizing that her children are what's truly important. When you look at it that way she is quite possibly the most realistic villain, aside from Guzma, in the series.
Sun and Moon, both original and Ultra will forever be one of the best Pokemon games I've ever played if I can't say the best 3D era pokemon game.
Storywise they really pushed boundaries with this, let alone completely disregarded some tropes in the series like Gym Leaders and 'underground' criminal organizations.
Coming off of X/Y, which has great lore but half-baked story- this was a gift from the gods.
you are TOTALLY correct, but people will fail to realise i feel
Yea 100% Alola is my favourite region and I think they’re the best
I woke up my parents with how I reacted to her new form.
Fortunately it was around the time they normally woke up, and in the end, isn't it better to wake up to a "WHAT THE SHIT?!?" instead of a "BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP"?
Waking up from that reaction would definitely be quite the kick start.
In all honesty I think I would prefer the former on weekdays. ಠ_ಠ
XD
Ladies and gentlemen, we have officially broken the sanity border and the E rating.
We need a battle between Lusamine's Clefable and Cynthia's Garchomp
Cynthia is easy af
@@rubytuesday8849 No need to flex that you beat Cynthia, I haven't played Diamond/Pearl
@@roseyAlina Then play it.
@@301am3 Nah
@@roseyAlina Well poor you
Why is it that the most underrated Nintendo games have literally the best in everything and the most effed up characters with an actual good story?
Ok I imagined we'd battle Lusamine. But THIS . Was something far beyond my imagination... I kinda like the idea
Florida woman becomes jellyfish
*Alola woman
Lusamine is literally just an even more traumatizing version of the Malamar episode from the anime.
Evil lady does evil stuff, good guy faces evil lady, evil lady is actually the minion and her Pokémon was actually controlling her all along.
For realies tho Jellyfish thing bad and will haunt my dreams
You know that if your avatar stops smiling, shit's happened.
Well, you weren't lying about the "spoilers" part
i swear to god, spoilers are everywhere, and i'm not sure if i hate people who posted them or myself for looking
Srutek Both
I love how the piano from her original theme comes back (albeit distorted) at 0:49, almost like Lusamine calling out to the player to save her from herself, before being drowned out again at 1:05
Also at 0:10
So true. Like her theme has been corrupted by Nihilego
Now I'm sad... Nihilego is a monster...
@@Rocky-brilliant Nah don’t be sad. Lusamine deserves it, the abusive POS.
@@invinciblemikey she literally doesn't deserve it, sorry, but even lillie and gladion know she was/is a good person, if they have empathy with her, I have empathy with her too.
Pokemon, where a giant jellyfish fused woman with all knowing power that can probably kill you herself but rather have a pokemon battle.
Derick Soto to be fair, she was probably gonna afterwards (didnt want to get her "hands" dirty or something) but lunala being a God and all stopped her.
Derick Soto I mean Solgaleo/Lunala aren't just going to let her kill us. But probably thought we should try to stop her ourselves.
And for once, this is a conflict that can actually be solved with a Pokémon battle, since her power was coming from a Pokémon we can fight with ours.
Why didn't Big Nebby simply incinerate her pokemon instead of letting us fight her?
Maybe it was conserving it's strength so it could get you all out afterwards? You'd have all been trapped in that place otherwise.
She's even nice enough to pay you after!
I would prefer if they made you fight her in her motherbeast form, and make it the first ever legit boss in pokemon:
- no typing.
- loads of health (app. 2000 hp, something that doesnt die in 2-3 hits)
- unique moves that cant be used by pokemon. I have an idea for her moveset:
Abduction: takes the pokemon your using temporarily and makes it fight in her place. Once beaten, it returns to you, fainted. (It would be used rarely, but a devastating impact on the fight. )
Type change: [ability] - gains a new typing every 4-5 turns, her color changes depending on it.
- Summon: calls forth a weak nihilego to fight alongside it, making players become extra cautious and strategize turns. Using roar or whirlwind will cause the nihilego to be swept from battle.
- enhance: (idk what to call it)- boosts a random stat sharply.
The rest of the moves are offensive moves, befitting her appearence. And instead of 4 moves, she has 6-7.
How's that for a pokemon boss?
(Btw, I'm studying on being a game designer;) )
Two moves: Lock-On and Guillotine.
Too edgy. Get real, the Pokémon games' engine doesn't even work that way. Oh and Accupressure exists.
Hold up señor evil
@@carrillozimmerman1009 eh, it's an *idea* ....
Imagine Abduction in a Nuzlocke
People say Lusamine never tries to attack by herself as an Ultra Beast, but not only is she powering her Pokémon up, she DOES attack, but Nebby hops in to save you.
I know that. :p
EVERYONE IS HERE SAYING HOW EPIC SUN AND MOON IS
I'M JUST SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT HOW OVER-POWERED HER CLEFABLE IS
when you had a metagross, that cleffable is not a great problem
I had Salazzle
Toxic + Venom Strike = Bye bye clefable
it metronomed into a heal pulse on its second turn when it had almost killed my pokemon. I laughed, it died, things went smoothly thereafter.
Merciless Toxapex destroys that demon clefable
Giratina 487 I noted that it got destroyed by my Lurantis' physical attacks, but laughed at my Espeon's special attacks. Its Metronome was a joke for me, it didn't use anything worthwhile.
I was fighter her clafable and it was so hard
Then it used metronome and exploded
LOL!
Evan Kaczmarek none of my pokemon fainted
Really? I had decidueye and knocked it with one hit
My magnezone kicked the crap out of clefable with flash cannon lol
Alolan Muk was my first catched Pokemon, Clefable was melted by one Gunk Shot
my reaction was: "SINCE WHEN DID POKEMON BECOME EARTHBOUND?"
What? This music sounds nothing like ANYTHING out of EarthBound. Though if you put Lusamine's boss form in EarthBound as a boss, no one would question it.
@@psychopianist630 that's what I meant, because it straight up made me think of gyigas fight
@@roxas4930 Sun..Sun..Sun..Sun..Sun..
You cannot grasp the true form of Lusamine's attack
@@roxas4930 it reminds me more of omega flowey
@@justsomeguywithafoxmask2998
*Lillie prayed from the bottom of her heart!
0:48 favorite part
To me, that little fraction represents Lusamine's humanity inside the monster she became.
Wow... kinda feels like Gen 5.
N was the first character to get two battle themes in one game, and Lusamine was the second.
Ghetsis was the first to combine two living beings into one, and Lusamine was the second... granted, Ghetsis made two legendary pokemon into another, and Lusamine combined an ultra beast with herself.
Ghetsis and Lusamine were horrible parents.
N and Lillie were raised badly by their parents.
It wasn't even USUM yet, and I already have a lot of nostalgia.
"UB-01. Code name: "Symboint."
"Properly known as Nihilego"
"There have been sightings reported of this beast in Alola's past."
"Its most distinctive feature is parasitic capability."
"When Nihilego latches on to a host, it does not manipulate its actions directly."
"Rather it awakens the host's own capabilties and boosts them to an extreme extent in order to protect itself."
"It injects the host with a sort of neurotoxin to achieve this effect."
"This neurotoxin of Nihilego's is incredibly stimulating and inspires feelings of extreme excitement and a lack of inhibition in its host."
"In other words, anything or anyone that a Nihilego latches on to will have its native skills forcibly activated to their fullest extent and will then act as it naturally does so."
Derpy-Chan Where's this from? Dex entry, library entry, or wat?
Wickie says this, then your trying to capture UB 01
+Derpy-Chan so Nihilego brings out your true potential? I need 10 of those UBs!!
Remember, UB 01 is trying to protect itself
So u tellin me this little rape jellyfish is the reason the best waifu in pokemon left me for kanto
"A girl fuses with rock jellyfish and tries to kill everyone"
Gamefreak: of COURSE. E for everyone!.
That's children's stories compared to HAL's games. I'm... not sure how a mass of writhing, screaming faces that says vaguely suggestive and creepy quotes was deemed okay for kids. Also, Lusamine only really tries to kill Lillie.
Pokemon SoulSilver was my first Pokemon game. I was only 10 when I played it, and I never had a problem with Whitney's Miltank. I didn't see why her Miltank and Rollout became so infamous.
Lusamine's Clefable, on the other hand... holy mother of Christ. Talk about a tank. It absorbed every hit like it was nothing. And every time I managed to put even a little damage on it, the fucker healed again. I'm pretty sure knocking the fluffy pink cunt out was one of the most satisfying things I've ever done in a video game.
Hat's off to you, Clefable. You deserve all the hate Miltank has gotten and more.
I never really had any problems with Clefable. My Incineroar took care of it :)
PokeRelax luck + a Dire hit helped bypass the defense boosts. But I think that without that it would be almost impossible to beat it.
Cinichecuk Two words
Toxic Salazzle
i had Muk to take care of her Clefable so her team wasn't too hard actually.
Clefable was a bitch but even more i think is her bewear. That thing fucked my shit up and I barely knocked it out
She might be the only Bad guy that has fused with a Unknown pokemon in the entire franchise, Well at least she aint causing a mass genocide like Lysandre.
BadPokemon Productions Ghetsis tried to kill the protagonist in BW2
Zelda345able and VERY nearly succeeded.
Zelda345able
Actually, he just tried to have them frozen alive. Which is arguably worse.
Actually, she IS causing mass destruction. She's summoning UB's all over Alola and basically starting an apocalypse. Worse than Lysandre/Cyrus in my opinion cause Lysandre and Cyrus wanted to destroy PASSIVELY. Their plan didn't have any sort of bloodshed into it. While if you really think about it, Lusamine's plan is pure dark. What she doesn't realize is the true power of the UB's. These things could KILL. Just imagine a Pheromosa bursting into your house and stomping on your family's bodies leaving a bloody masacre as you watch in despair hiding in safety slowly watching your entire family die in what may seem like hell itself. I know. It's a horrifying thing to imagine what could've happened if you weren't there to save the day with your smiley looking face.
BadPokemon Productions Cyrus still the villain with the most destructive and dangerous plan of them all.
So we have a psychotic sociopath who will stop at nothing to be with an alien being, even going so far as to become a monster while doing so, because of an obsession with said beast?
Lusamine is Pokemon's Sephiroth
yes
Jacob Wells what's funny is that i called myself sephiroth in this game xD
considering how obsessed people are with her, I'd have to agree with this assessment.
she's not so much a psychopath as she is a straight up drug addict
she snorted jellyfish once too often and got addicted, and decided she had to go to the jellyfish dimension
unfortunately, in ultra space, drugs snort YOU
I Said No She has Pokemon cryogenically frozen in her house. Who knows if they're still alive? Lusamine is psycho
When i saw this transformation, there was only one thing I could think of...
Do you know what I was thinking?
"WHAT THE- HOW INSANE ARE YOU, LUSAMINE?!"
...then was tragically disappointed that we were fighting a buffed version of her earlier team rather than Lusamine directly.
this is going to be a dark game with a lot of bright colors. Not gonna complain
yes
K.R Jackson Like Danganronpa?
+Mood Swinger
It was aesthetic and the colors were everywhere
***** Your original comment was "This is going to be a dark game with a lot of bright colors"
I see nothing about it being cutesy or hiding how dark it is
***** Oops, my bad. But still, the OP didn't say anything about the game hiding how dark it truly is.
I absolutely love how Nihilego was, for all intents and purposes the one behind everything. This marks the very first time in the main series games where a Pokemon actually is the primary antagonist. That said, I still wish you could fight the Nihilego/Lusamine itself.
I was honestly disappointed that I wasn't actually directly fighting HER, but was instead fighting her Pokemon; like, she'd become this super-powerful being, yet her power served to only buff her own Pokemon. Just a nitpick.
It would have been cool to use the legendary against her or even have her 6th pokemon be herself.
hawkssuns08 That's what I was hoping would happen
bossfight1 yea I wanted to see that myself
if you had to fight her, the age rating would be bumped up to T. I was kinda worried we had to fight her, because that sounds fun as hell but scary
Its pretty annoying how we get to catch Solgaleo/Lunala AFTER beating Lusamine here
Would have preferred fighting her with Lunala, Nebby basically facing off against her
Would feel fitting
Hehehe, the nostalgia...
500+ hours, full pokedex....
And now, I return, to re live one of my favourite experiences.
In terms of scenario, this is one of the best fights in pokemon history, and the music backs up this maddening battle perfectly.
I found the fight itself slightly easy, but that may just have been because my selection of pokemon.
JungleB it was actually a pretty tense fight for me. it took all my pokemon with fighting type attacks to take down bewear and I had to use zpower to stop clefable's spam moonlight.
Greninja and Decidueye took care of the rest though.
@@SuperGamingMAXsame, except for me, her Pokémon showed zero mercy