Upgrade! KDX 200 vs KTM 300 XC-W at McNutt

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  • Опубліковано 12 гру 2024

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  • @DuhYaThink
    @DuhYaThink 9 місяців тому +6

    I’ll still take a carb. 24” Beta 200 race edition is on my list. 👋

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  8 місяців тому +1

      Also a solid choice, a friend of mine has a bet 200, I rode it, it was a very well-balanced and fun bike, can't go wrong!

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Місяць тому +1

      ​@TomRidesBC
      Oh, you're talking about FUN bikes now.
      Who makes 'fun' bikes?
      Please, control yourself!
      You actually want a putt putt bike.
      You clearly aren't riding in the style of endurance motocross racing.
      You're probably not doing riding in the style of motocross racing either.

  • @ml5955
    @ml5955 16 днів тому

    Enjoyable comparison. It appeared to be honest and sincere. 👍

  • @DuhYaThink
    @DuhYaThink 9 місяців тому +4

    Scott’s stabilizer is a game changer 💯

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Місяць тому +1

      Childish

  • @carlatamanczyk3891
    @carlatamanczyk3891 10 місяців тому +2

    E start is wonderful... but a backup kick should have been retained.

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  10 місяців тому

      I would like that security as well, for sure. I may add another button somewhere because apparently a large oroportion of starting issues have to do with poor handlebar switches.

  • @Coastal-rsidedown
    @Coastal-rsidedown 10 місяців тому +1

    I guess you had a little time to figure out your next bike. Surprised you didn't like the suspension, most people rave about the 2024 CC forks and like the shock as well.

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  10 місяців тому +2

      Suspension was not bad, and probably would work well for a lot of people, especially with a revalve. But it was much too stiff in the forks for the terrain i ride, and how i ride it. If i picked up the pace, it felt really good, but i'm not fast at all, mostly 2nd gear, so the action was beating me up. For GNCC, hare scramble, that sort of stuff i think it would do well, not for these trails though. With the clickers backed out a lot of force was being transfered to the spring and it felt spongy. It is amazing how much difference it made. One of the trails in the video (i did not post it complete though, just a few snippets) i was 25% faster with new suspension over stock, and i wasnt even thinking about timing it, just turned on the gopro and rode it as normal. Then i checked on my computer. Arm pump is reduced, it is deflecting much less. So for my weight, and my terrain, it made a big difference. Still have to figure out the oil level to get another inch of travel out of the forks though. At 350 cc now, will try 300 today.

  • @DuhYaThink
    @DuhYaThink 9 місяців тому +3

    Had a 97”KDX 220R and it was a great trail bike. Heavy, but once you started pushing the pace the chassis is limited. Awesome bike though 👍🏻

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  8 місяців тому +3

      I think kawi could do really well with an updated KDX, I really enjoyed mine and generally like Japanese bikes. But as it stands right now they are all sooooooo far behind on everything except suspension.

    • @DuhYaThink
      @DuhYaThink 8 місяців тому +1

      @@TomRidesBC Agreed. Take a kxf250 and use a similar chassis and suspension and actually build an off road 250 2 stroke motor for it with a carb and e start and they would sell like water in a desert.

  • @2WheelDerness
    @2WheelDerness 7 місяців тому +2

    I feel you, same me with old gen of GasGas EC300, is a capable bike, suspension is ok now after some adjustments, but I just get tired of kicking and boiling coolant in hard sections...😅

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Місяць тому +1

      You've misused your bike that's fine tuned for some other type of riding.
      Motocross bikes have short wheelbase and fast revving engines that aren't suitable for countryside riding.

    • @2WheelDerness
      @2WheelDerness Місяць тому

      @@Gma7788 Ec300 was made for enduro, I just hardened the powervalve spring a luttle to have more constant pull, but needed a fan and biger waterpump for hard enduro... No misused just needed some upgrades. Bulletproof engines however.

  • @banffdigger
    @banffdigger 10 місяців тому +1

    I found the 48 tooth fit on without having to throw a longer chain on just flip the blocks see how I like it once its not stud season out here.

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  10 місяців тому

      yeah the 50 *almost* fit. I got the chain and sprocket for less than the price of the chain alone, so i'll put up with it for the time being. Next round i'll go 48 for sure. Stock chain is brand new, thanks for confirming that i'll just need the sprocket!

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Місяць тому +1

      Wrong.

    • @banffdigger
      @banffdigger Місяць тому

      @@Gma7788 really. It worked for me.

  • @TheKitchenTechnician
    @TheKitchenTechnician 9 місяців тому

    Congrats on the new bike! Variety is the spice of life! I have a Yamaha WR450 and a Beta 300RR and I have my eye on a new KTM 150 XCW.

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Місяць тому +1

      Wrong.
      He keeps inventing his own misfortune.
      One day he might educate himself and go buy the appropriate bike for the job he wants it to do.
      At the moment he's poorly educated about bikes and is buying the worst possible bike for countryside riding.
      You have no clue what you're doing.

  • @spencersoutdoors1448
    @spencersoutdoors1448 10 місяців тому +1

    I had the same issue with my 24’s light switch, dosent stay clicked down ended up putting a zip tie through the switch to leave it on 100% of the time

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  10 місяців тому

      I guess with the LED there's no harm in doing that, good point. KTM is backordered on those switches, I guess many are failing. You are the third person on various platforms who has mentioned theirs is inop, it's a thing I guess.

  • @TeknaTronik
    @TeknaTronik 9 місяців тому +3

    I love the kdx 200

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  9 місяців тому +3

      its been a great bike! reliable, easy to ride, went everywhere. It was time for me to taste the orange though

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Місяць тому +1

      No you don't.
      You're another sick in the head idiot.
      Riding endurance motocross racing bikes is DIFFICULT HARD WORK.

  • @drewellis9560
    @drewellis9560 9 місяців тому +1

    I bought the same bike. Im also a larger rider. Slightly older guy lol. Been wanting to get Stegpegs. Curious if you can tell me how many rubber blocks is best? Are they hard to get used to?

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  9 місяців тому

      In terms of getting used to them I'd say the biggest thing is that your feet will be set a little wider on the footpegs, and the toes will be naturally a little more inward, which is a good thing for trail riding, and also why I got a bigger brake tip. One long ride is all it takes
      I bought extra pucks and longer bolts for my last bike, but never ended up using them, the one puck seems to be enough. If you are mostly dualsporting then extra pucks may be of benefit - less body movement on a dualsport. Riding Enduro I think they will get in the way if they are any bigger.
      The way they are now, the flat inner part of the boot is on the aluminium bracket, and the puck pushes against the last 1/4 of the boot just as it starts to round back around the calf, if that makes sense.

    • @drewellis9560
      @drewellis9560 9 місяців тому

      @@TomRidesBC thanks for the info. That really helps. Can you recommend a good place to buy them ?

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  9 місяців тому

      ​@@drewellis9560I think the only place to get them is from Australia, from the manufacturer. I've always got them from them direct, never had to pay duty.

  • @gordo5863
    @gordo5863 10 місяців тому +2

    13/48 or 50

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  10 місяців тому

      I went with a 50 because it was for sale on marketplace for dirt cheap. If I was paying full price I would go with a 48

    • @WASemiHardEnduro
      @WASemiHardEnduro 9 місяців тому +1

      Wow that’s some low gearing. 13/45 works super well for me. Remember these new bikes have completely different internal ratios, and they’re very close to the old bike’s 13/50.

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  9 місяців тому

      ​@@WASemiHardEnduro you have a very good point about internal ratios - I automatically put on a larger rear because that's been my go-to on many bikes. it does feel pretty low with the 50, I barely use the 1st gear. The second did feel a little tall with 45, and I overshot with the 50, that's for sure. Next round I'll probably go 47 or 48. Good thing gearing is easy to change :)

    • @2fly1974
      @2fly1974 9 місяців тому +1

      I've got the Husqvarna te300 pro and these engines are so good I can make the 45t work in the real technical areas but it's mostly what I do. The 48t was perfect without losing top end. I had a 50t laying around and right away knew it would've been too much . I've got a 18 Gasgas xc300 that I went from a 48t to a 50t because the gas gas just didn't lug off the bottom like the new bike. It's only money bud it's good to have options...lol. On a side note my brother has got an 89 kdx200 but needs new power valve gears I think but it ran good for awhile and is plenty capable but its just getting hard to find parts

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  8 місяців тому

      ​@@2fly1974 nice, always good to see a KDX around, but yes parts are becoming a problem. There is a fella out of UK that sells new powervalves custom machined, but they are pretty pricy, I think over $250.
      yes I'm thinking I will go back to a smaller sprocket sooner than later, or put on a 14 front. Only money indeed :)

  • @Nudnik1
    @Nudnik1 3 місяці тому

    Carson Brown KDX 200 Tennessee knock out hard Enduro...

  • @user-id8ng9eq9h
    @user-id8ng9eq9h 9 місяців тому

    who did the mapping?

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  9 місяців тому

      It's a TSP map - I ordered the ERM from a local Canadian dealer (BRC in Calgary), and flashed it on the trail. It's an amazing gadget.

  • @ethermal1
    @ethermal1 10 місяців тому

    What pegs did you use?

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  10 місяців тому

      I went with Carapaks 5mm down, 10mm back. They fit my large fit really well. There was enough room in the brake pedal adjustment to place it where i wanted it

  • @timsmith8391
    @timsmith8391 9 місяців тому

    96’ KDX?

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  9 місяців тому

      It is a 95 with a lot of parts off an 06, but amazingly factory 95 plastics were perfect - lots of purple.

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Місяць тому +1

      The guy is completely crazy.
      Never bothered to educate himself about racing 🏁 bikes or just bikes in general 🤔

  • @gusalbers3002
    @gusalbers3002 7 місяців тому +1

    this looks like BC?

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  7 місяців тому +1

      Yes this is at the trail system maintained by the Blue Mountain Motorcycle Club (McNutt), Maple Ridge

  • @d1aman
    @d1aman 3 місяці тому

    How does revalved kdx suspension compare to stock ktm?

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Місяць тому +1

      Oh, please, go educate yourself about bikes for once in your life 🙄
      You tune suspension for each different race track.
      Motocross racing bikes are different to endurance motocross racing bikes.
      Both motocross bikes get different tunings.

    • @d1aman
      @d1aman Місяць тому

      @@Gma7788 wow, that's a lot of judgement! Why bother commenting?

  • @pnum9618
    @pnum9618 10 місяців тому +2

    i will buy your KDX200 plz?????

    • @TomRidesBC
      @TomRidesBC  10 місяців тому

      it sold ridiculously fast, to a fella who had 3 KDXs already :) people sure love them, as did i, but it was time

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@TomRidesBC
      Time you started to educate yourself about bikes.
      Not time for you to buy another bike.
      You have no idea what you're doing.
      Can you even SEE the bike was decorated in the famous racing green colour?
      Do you need the rescue helicopter 🚁 to see the orange 🍊 colour from the air??
      Ask yourself, Why is there orange 🍊 on your bike?
      For what purpose did you put orange on your countryside bike???
      Is that RACING ORANGE 🍊???
      YOU clearly don't need racing orange on your bike.
      You clearly don't need a fast racing engine 🙄
      You clearly don't have a use for another motocross racing bike.

  • @Maria-pz5kd
    @Maria-pz5kd 10 місяців тому

    Cool!

  • @otero2235
    @otero2235 3 місяці тому

    Wish they would make a new KDX. It’s still a wonderful bike but it could use some modern upgrades.

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Місяць тому +1

      Wrong.
      You have no idea what that bike is designed for.
      Guys like you just smash these bikes.
      You're so stupid you don't deserve ANY motorcycle.
      I'm SO glad they finally stopped you morons bashing the hell out of these bikes.
      You can't even see the bike is decorated in RACING GREEN.
      You think it's jackass green.

  • @otero2235
    @otero2235 3 місяці тому

    To compare a thirty year old bike to modern day one holds testament to the quality of the KDX. Wish they made a new 2024 model.

    • @Billy-burner
      @Billy-burner 2 місяці тому +1

      A new 200cc fuel injected 2 stroke with e start, bolted into a new 2024 klx 300 frame... Hmmm I can only dream. Kawasaki would sell way more than they ever could build.

    • @otero2235
      @otero2235 2 місяці тому

      @@Billy-burner could you imagine a fuel injected two stroke with e-start. Life would be grand.

    • @Billy-burner
      @Billy-burner 2 місяці тому

      @@otero2235 same reason I bought a KTM 2 stroke..🤪

    • @Gma7788
      @Gma7788 Місяць тому +1

      I'm glad you and your scum friends can't get their dumbass hands on another one.
      You haven't got a clue about tuning motocross racing bikes.
      Get Off My Internet!