2024 KTM 300 XCW OR XC TBI? RIDE REVIEW COMPARSION
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- Опубліковано 19 лют 2024
- I take both the 2024 KTM 300 XCW TBI and the 300 XC TBI out on the same day and do a comparison ride review. What KTM is better for you? What should you buy? I give my thoughts.
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24 300XC / 24 TX300 all day !
After having both - I agree with you 100%
Do you prefer stiffer suspension on the XC than the XCW?
@@duosable Yes. I ride MX tracks and fast desert areas in Bend, Oregon. The XC and TX have more snappy motors too
Good stuff. I chose the XC-W for a few reasons and some I didnt even know that after learning im glad i chose the XC-W. I think its easier/cheaper to have the XC-W make more power with tuning and a head than to make the XC how I want/need it. Coming from 18 year old 450cc 4 strokes, I have been over the moon with this TBI 2 stroke. And for anyone wondering, even at 6k feet where im at, the XC-W is no slouch. Though admittedly ill probably add more because why not. But here in the mountains the XC-W is hard to beat.
Yup, a spot on review for sure. I have both a '19 xcw and 23 xc (300s) and have WP 6500 forks on both and the xc has the tsp head and tune for some extra spice. The xcw excels in the choppy technical, the xc in the faster terrain, though both can do both well enough. I think my next bike will be the xcw with a tsp head and tune or something similar as I like the idea of the dummy fan run by the ecu v. a the probe in the rad which I've had issues with.
Thanks for the simple breakdown
Solid work. I think you actually touched on all of the differences; most reviewers forget something. 👍
Great comparison man, thanks for the info
Great video. I just bought myself a 24' 250 XCW.
Great Review
Great job 👏👏👏 We have wanted to do this but haven’t had both on the same day.
Thanks, it was a blast! Love your channel, your videos have helped me with so many aspects of bike maintenance👍
Note: the XCW has different cylinder porting (for the first time ever) then the XC so theres more changes to power levels
Good review - as a former 2 stroke motocross goon, yes the shorter silencer gives better top end and vice versa. The longer silencer should be more quiet as well.
This is the best review I’ve seen
Thanks!
Excellent video! Direct and to the point - good stuff! Wonder how the new more compliant frame on the 24.5 250/450 Factory Editions will work on the 2025 300XC? Will be fun to find out later this summer!
Thanks! Yup should be interesting
If you want both get 24+ xc then revalve suspension and get tsp enduro ecu tune
Great review. I found removing the dongle from the harness on the XCW (activating the hot map) really woke it up. Not sure a head and flash is required.
XCW is already in the hot map stock.
@@WASemiHardEnduro no, it’s not.
@@coastalenduro You’re wrong, any KTM w/o a map switch stock is by default in the hot map.
This is a great video, very concise. I have a question you might be able to answer in a video if you're interested - what's the best full size two stroke for a rider trying to develop technique? I'm newer to enduro with about 10 hours on the bike, which is an older 250 xcw. I like it, but it is a bit of a handful for me sometimes. It's also in pieces at the moment. So, what would be a good bike to get better on while I'm tinkering on the 250? Perhaps a 150? Interested to hear your thoughts. Cheers.
I’d personally stick with the 250 if I was starting out. The power on a 250 or 300 is usually more linear and has an easier delivery of it vs a 150. But weight and hight are things to consider too, if you’re quite small a 150 could work. My best advice would be to try a friends bike that has a 150 or similar even if it’s just for a short time, that can give you a good comparison starting point. If no friends have em a local riding club is a good place to meet new riders.
Alright, thanks man!
Both are race bikes. One is for cross country and the other is for enduro.
In your video you briefly mention a slight delay at 1/8 throttle on the xcw. Can you explain this in more detail? I have a ‘24 xcw and I notice slight delay in throttle response when compared to the xc tbi. When trail riding it’s negligible but in the technical stuff, it’s annoying. Thanks for the video!
I’m not sure of the exact reason for it, but I believe it has something to do with the oil injection. That’s why I mention that switching to premix on the xcw fixes this. Check out UA-camr Tokyo Offroad, he has a good video about deleting the oil injection and mentions that this solved his slight hesitation.
I’ll check it out. Thanks again.
The stock XCW map is pretty rich down low. Deleting the OI is a bit of a hack to fix it, as running premix can lean out your fueling (oil displaces gas). The right way to fix it is through mapping - a TSP or TPITuning reflash will fix it.
Selling my 2023 XC and getting a 2024 XC-W. I agree that the perfect bike would be the XC-W with the XC engine. I just think the PDS suspension is better for tight woods. Either way the new TBI is awesome!
Interestingly that is exactly what the factory pros are running.
Pretty good review, I have a Husky TE 300 PRO buddy has the new XC300 his bike is way louder, builds rpm quicker at less throttle and has stiffer suspension and a very hard seat. He likes fast trail and motoX. I am more of an enduro/hard enduro guy. My bike runs real good down low.
Exactly!
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Port timing is the main difference for power difference’s. The xcw is much slower trail bike
Interesting. More then a different head? I don’t know much about porting.
Correct, the W has different (lower?) port timing which shifts the power lower in the rev range. It’s not a bad thing for 90% of riders. Most people who think they need all 57hp would probably be surprised at how rarely they actually go full-throttle! 😂
Coo. I sure don’t use it all!
Are you sure you're referring to a 2024? Because all of the literature counters what you are describing which is common for the older versions which had those significant differences but not on the 2024😊
@@user-hg9go5gx1s Not sure which comment you’re replying to, but previous versions (TPIs) all had the same engines. 2024 is the first year where the XC and XCW had pretty significantly different engines.
Apples an oranges
XC has a 14/48 stock in 2024